I hope wrc generation is an improvement in PS5. Tbh, WRC10 was quite a disappointment for me for 2 main and technical reason; 1). The night stage is waaaaay tooo dark (esp croatia) 2). Screeen tearing esp in Finland stage.
Can't wait for this release, it's sad that it's going to EA and Codemasters after this years release. I will likely get it on PC and Series X to be honest.
@@elbowsout6301 what is going to EA and Codemaster? The next WRC game? If so, I actually wish it would. I prefer dirt rally a bit than WRC. At least in console experience, Dirt Rally is far less buggy. But am still going to get Generation anyway
Happy to see someone, with finesse in his commentary, talk about Kylotonn's history of at least its previously primary series. FlatOut 4, V-Rally 4, and WRC Generations are the main games that make me a fan of the studio.
Ive bought and Love all the Ktracing Wrc, im a huge Fan. Wrc Generations is a fantastic thrilling title, what ive always dreamed from a rally title 🎉🎉 But im hyped for the EA Version of it even if i didnt like the handling in dirt and dirt 2.0
I gave up on the KT engine after WRC 10 due to all the stuttering and freezing but recently I learned that having the WRC games on an ssd instead of a hdd cured all the stuttering for me. My Accuforce still cuts the fps in half so I have to use GimX to emulate a G27 to fix that. Now I enjoy a rock solid 141 fps and can enjoy what are very good games when working properly. I will for sure test out Generations. I hope KT can improve on the engine to the point that it is well optimized and just works with no fuzz and have a dream that Kyloton will bring us Sebastien Loeb Rally Evo 2 and some circuit racer with cars of yore.
Oooh, that would explain why the PS5 and Series X didn't have strutting, and PC did for WRC 10, as they have SSDs. Glad you resolved that, and we hope Generations is smooth for you!
@@youp1tralala Do you mean that Milestone still has the Sebastien Loeb license? Not that it would matter as what I want is a game that SLRE 2 would be, but not necessarily by that name. But of course, SLRE 2 would have a nice ring to it given Loeb's history and the fact that SLRE was a really good game.
Haven't tried WRC10 or Generations but when it comes to handling and physics I prefer WRC9 over Dirt Rally 2.0. Sometimes it feels like DR2.0 has infinite grip even on RWD cars and on every surface. Stages, 4WD handling, and obviously tarmac physics are clear. DR2.0 ia a great game but it's glorified because of engine sounds and graphics
It is interesting to see the growth KT Racing made over the years and it is a significant growth. However, despite the evolution of the physics, graphics and more compared to WRC5, their games have never reached up to the standards put in place by other rally and racing titles such as DR2.0, Assetto Corsa and many more or the potential that was of their own making. The main reason for this, in my opinion, has everything to do with the development philosophy of the team behind the games. With WRC8 they managed to construct a strong foundation to build higher upon. But instead of doing that, they decided not to fully commit building on top of what they had put in place but rather around it, adding numerous new 'fluff' features which aren't core game elements. The livery editor being an example of such a feature. It is a lovely addition to have but it does not nearly have the same impact towards success as significant improvements to the core game elements. Focussing too much on those 'fluff' features means that far less time and resources were to be used for those core elements such as improvements to the physics, graphics/graphical optimisation, 3D modelling and sound. Sure, we saw core improvements over the next few years but those were not nearly as major or noticeable enough as they should've been. I think it's fair to say that because of the limited time and resources spend on those core elements, we ended up with an audio revamp which, despite what other studios managed to achieve with the same methods and programmes, was far below expectations or standards to say the least. Or we received an array of legendary cars which looked and felt underdeveloped time and time again by a significant margin compared to the modern WRC cars for example in the same game. Or that the franchise continued to struggle with graphical and peripheral optimisation over the years. They continued spreading their time and resources over too many different things which resulted in their annual releases feeling rushed or unfinished over the last few years. There was tremendous potential for KT Racing, especially after the release of WRC8. Potential which will remain untapped right up until the end of their WRC license contract. With the license changing hands and Codemasters (EA) now having the opportunity to show off their skills and build upon the knowledge and experience gathered from their past DiRT Rally franchise, I am convinced there's a bright future for WRC games and its players in years to come.
Excelente video.Estoy sumamente agradecido con Kt racing.He disfrutado cada juego a full.Y ansioso por Generations.Una lastima,q siempre tuvo q lidiar con esa comparación con la competencia.Pero,al final es parte del juego. Excelente video,y confiemos q Generations sea el broche de oro para su legado.
Codies have a higher ceiling to what they COULD do, time will tell... native VR, sounds etc KT engine still has many bad points but we'll see with generations. If Codies WRC game is amazing then you will quickly forget about this.
I’m one of the few who agree. With EA owning codemasters I have concerns. The stages in the recent WRC games have been brilliant and offer a greater level of enjoyment than what we have in dirt Rally
@@msum23 fingers crossed. I will never write it off as there is potential there. IF they get the stages to the level of what KT have for sheer variety, flow and technicality it’ll be a winner
I'm really excited for Generations. I have every title since WRC 7 and playing through then all is an amazing experience to see the development. Codemasters having the licence now is a blow for me. They are a storied company with an amazing history, but EA have come in and the first F1 game and its blinking F1 Life mode shows EA's priority is still in invading your wallet not focusing on the gaming experience as Kylitonn have. They are a great developer for the gamer and can't wait to see where they go next. Please don't give EA a penny for Ultimate Teams and paying for a blinking painted helmet. We have created the monster buying this stuff. It's the gamers fault don't encourage them! Great video guys and happy gaming all!
I think KT's handling and physics model is exceptional. It'll be sad to see it leave the WRC franchise. That said, I do feel like their menus, game modes and general UI elements could do with some work. The "Gran Turismo" approach to car ownership in Dirt Rally 2.0 is really nice, I wish that was incorporated in WRC10's anniversary mode. It felt a little lifeless to just be able to drive all the cars on all the stages with no real incentive.
i'm really looking forward for this game i've only played WRC10 from the wrc franchise cuz of me playing dirt rally 1 and 2 for years, therefor i'm most interested in what codeys will do with the license because for me the only thing the wrc series have done better is stage design for me personally all the other points go to the dirt rally series
I wonder whats next, hill climbs or drifting? I did take notice with the re use of last years recycling at times and the lack of certain stages like salou beach. Making arena panzerplatte DLC for purchase oh no you dont
....and yet, I cannot run WRC7 with my new MOZA R9. It does not even recognize that controller. While we are at it... Why can't I use a mouse in the menus?
Cant play any of them because the frame rate is tied to the physics and with AMD it just doesnt work. I even went back and tried 7,8, and 9 and they all perform the same lol
I would have been excited by codemasters taking over the franchise if it wasn't for EA buying out codemasters. Everything EA touches turns to shit. F122 case in point.
I need this.. bummer there is no vr in it. I drive so much better in vr.. can't get enough of it. Got to save up my pennies though to afford WRC Generations. livestreams will be fun.
i thing this is good what they stop make rally games and go develop test drive unlimited series because codmasters anyway maked better rally sims, but people and industry need reborn of test drive
In the main Codies will help ruin WRC. In F1, they've spent many years taking one step forward and two backwards. Codemasters will milk WRC for every penny they can get. I don't plan to support EA by buying WRC after Generations has launched. I'm looking forward to seeing what KT does with the Rallying genre after WRC. I hope we get even more realism, and longer stages moving forwards. I'd love to know from KT, what restrictions the FIA placed on the studio - which limited the games. But I guess nobody will ever ask KT this.
WRC 8 got me into rally games I put quite a number of hours into that one thought it was a good game. I did start playing WRC 10 but to be honest I barely touch it now after finding dirt rally 2.0 GOTY edition in a sale cheap. I just find dirt rally 2.0 the better rally game the cars actually sound like cars and there's a level of immersion that the WRC games don't have for me. I will likely skip WRC generations. It could get interesting now Codemasters have the official WRC game licence.
I feel the same, I started with wrc 9 then I buy wrc 10 and almost haven't played it then I started to play Dirt 2.0 and it's a better game overall I think I will skip generations since I believe will be just the cars update the tracks will be the same like previous years.
honestly, i *hate* the kylotonn games. the way they play, the handling model, the suspension physics... i always try, and they always feel like you're driving on clouds, it's floaty as all hell, like you're not driving cars but hovercrafts. it's awful. and it goes for all their games ; wrc, v-rally, their truck games (including the fia european truck championship one from 2019 released under "n-racing"), even the isle of man tt felt more like wave race than anything remotely ressembling bike physics... yet, i can't help but be fascinated at how the games and company have evolved, how the wrc series has progressed so much that they're sometimes positively compared to dirt rally, how they were the very first studio crazy enough to replicate rally stages 1for1, how they've been so ahead of the curve on official e-competition, how, in the end, they've been at it through *three* generations of wrc rules...... so yea, i hate the games, they're not what i want/like to play, but i kinda love what the studio's trying (succeeding?) to do... it's weird :P
Shame they have lost the licence to Codies. Have no faith in Codies anymore after the last few games bar F1.... WRC 10 was fantastic much better than Dirt Rally.
they've had the same stuttering issues for YEARS but haven't fixed it. They've reused the same low polygon models for the last several generations. Not sure what you're smoking. They're either lazy, blind or most likely, don't have the manpower to fix foundational problems.
I’m so glad Codemasters/EA are taking the WRC License over. I’m sorry but Kylotonn have been getting away with murder with this franchise. Especially when you compare it with the Dirt games.
Are you looking forward to WRC Generations? Let us know in the comments below!
Yes, still missing custom champioship but the games are fun and I love WRC
I hope wrc generation is an improvement in PS5. Tbh, WRC10 was quite a disappointment for me for 2 main and technical reason; 1). The night stage is waaaaay tooo dark (esp croatia) 2). Screeen tearing esp in Finland stage.
If it had VR I would be looking forward to it much more.
Can't wait for this release, it's sad that it's going to EA and Codemasters after this years release. I will likely get it on PC and Series X to be honest.
@@elbowsout6301 what is going to EA and Codemaster? The next WRC game? If so, I actually wish it would. I prefer dirt rally a bit than WRC. At least in console experience, Dirt Rally is far less buggy.
But am still going to get Generation anyway
I'm glad to see the studio's growth over the years and really hoping they are gonna be able to deliver on the new TDU game.
Power to you, KT! ✊
Happy to see someone, with finesse in his commentary, talk about Kylotonn's history of at least its previously primary series.
FlatOut 4, V-Rally 4, and WRC Generations are the main games that make me a fan of the studio.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice work Kylotonn, IMO you did a great job with the WRC license, especially the stage design
Ive bought and Love all the Ktracing Wrc, im a huge Fan.
Wrc Generations is a fantastic thrilling title, what ive always dreamed from a rally title 🎉🎉
But im hyped for the EA Version of it even if i didnt like the handling in dirt and dirt 2.0
I gave up on the KT engine after WRC 10 due to all the stuttering and freezing but recently I learned that having the WRC games on an ssd instead of a hdd cured all the stuttering for me. My Accuforce still cuts the fps in half so I have to use GimX to emulate a G27 to fix that. Now I enjoy a rock solid 141 fps and can enjoy what are very good games when working properly. I will for sure test out Generations.
I hope KT can improve on the engine to the point that it is well optimized and just works with no fuzz and have a dream that Kyloton will bring us Sebastien Loeb Rally Evo 2 and some circuit racer with cars of yore.
Oooh, that would explain why the PS5 and Series X didn't have strutting, and PC did for WRC 10, as they have SSDs. Glad you resolved that, and we hope Generations is smooth for you!
I wished to see a SLRE 2, but this is a Milestone license, not KT
@@youp1tralala Do you mean that Milestone still has the Sebastien Loeb license? Not that it would matter as what I want is a game that SLRE 2 would be, but not necessarily by that name. But of course, SLRE 2 would have a nice ring to it given Loeb's history and the fact that SLRE was a really good game.
They're doing pretty well in my opinion.
Haven't tried WRC10 or Generations but when it comes to handling and physics I prefer WRC9 over Dirt Rally 2.0. Sometimes it feels like DR2.0 has infinite grip even on RWD cars and on every surface. Stages, 4WD handling, and obviously tarmac physics are clear. DR2.0 ia a great game but it's glorified because of engine sounds and graphics
It is interesting to see the growth KT Racing made over the years and it is a significant growth.
However, despite the evolution of the physics, graphics and more compared to WRC5, their games have never reached up to the standards put in place by other rally and racing titles such as DR2.0, Assetto Corsa and many more or the potential that was of their own making.
The main reason for this, in my opinion, has everything to do with the development philosophy of the team behind the games. With WRC8 they managed to construct a strong foundation to build higher upon. But instead of doing that, they decided not to fully commit building on top of what they had put in place but rather around it, adding numerous new 'fluff' features which aren't core game elements. The livery editor being an example of such a feature. It is a lovely addition to have but it does not nearly have the same impact towards success as significant improvements to the core game elements.
Focussing too much on those 'fluff' features means that far less time and resources were to be used for those core elements such as improvements to the physics, graphics/graphical optimisation, 3D modelling and sound. Sure, we saw core improvements over the next few years but those were not nearly as major or noticeable enough as they should've been.
I think it's fair to say that because of the limited time and resources spend on those core elements, we ended up with an audio revamp which, despite what other studios managed to achieve with the same methods and programmes, was far below expectations or standards to say the least. Or we received an array of legendary cars which looked and felt underdeveloped time and time again by a significant margin compared to the modern WRC cars for example in the same game. Or that the franchise continued to struggle with graphical and peripheral optimisation over the years.
They continued spreading their time and resources over too many different things which resulted in their annual releases feeling rushed or unfinished over the last few years.
There was tremendous potential for KT Racing, especially after the release of WRC8. Potential which will remain untapped right up until the end of their WRC license contract.
With the license changing hands and Codemasters (EA) now having the opportunity to show off their skills and build upon the knowledge and experience gathered from their past DiRT Rally franchise, I am convinced there's a bright future for WRC games and its players in years to come.
Excelente video.Estoy sumamente agradecido con Kt racing.He disfrutado cada juego a full.Y ansioso por Generations.Una lastima,q siempre tuvo q lidiar con esa comparación con la competencia.Pero,al final es parte del juego.
Excelente video,y confiemos q Generations sea el broche de oro para su legado.
i am upset that codemasters took the titles away, their rally games are great but Kylotonn really built something special.
Codies have a higher ceiling to what they COULD do, time will tell... native VR, sounds etc KT engine still has many bad points but we'll see with generations. If Codies WRC game is amazing then you will quickly forget about this.
I’m one of the few who agree. With EA owning codemasters I have concerns. The stages in the recent WRC games have been brilliant and offer a greater level of enjoyment than what we have in dirt Rally
@@paulanderson24 EA ruins everything they touch!
One of the worst companies around!!
Codemasters will create better graphics and sounds but the game will be ridden with silly cosmetics and microtransactions. EA SPORTS...
@@msum23 fingers crossed. I will never write it off as there is potential there. IF they get the stages to the level of what KT have for sheer variety, flow and technicality it’ll be a winner
Really curious to see how future KT games will turn out with all the experience they accumulated through the WRC games
I'm really excited for Generations. I have every title since WRC 7 and playing through then all is an amazing experience to see the development. Codemasters having the licence now is a blow for me. They are a storied company with an amazing history, but EA have come in and the first F1 game and its blinking F1 Life mode shows EA's priority is still in invading your wallet not focusing on the gaming experience as Kylitonn have. They are a great developer for the gamer and can't wait to see where they go next. Please don't give EA a penny for Ultimate Teams and paying for a blinking painted helmet. We have created the monster buying this stuff. It's the gamers fault don't encourage them! Great video guys and happy gaming all!
I think KT's handling and physics model is exceptional. It'll be sad to see it leave the WRC franchise. That said, I do feel like their menus, game modes and general UI elements could do with some work. The "Gran Turismo" approach to car ownership in Dirt Rally 2.0 is really nice, I wish that was incorporated in WRC10's anniversary mode. It felt a little lifeless to just be able to drive all the cars on all the stages with no real incentive.
i'm really looking forward for this game i've only played WRC10 from the wrc franchise cuz of me playing dirt rally 1 and 2 for years, therefor i'm most interested in what codeys will do with the license because for me the only thing the wrc series have done better is stage design for me personally all the other points go to the dirt rally series
I hope they make a fun fantasy title after WRC- Hell Rally, or Urban Rally Apocalypse.
I wonder whats next, hill climbs or drifting?
I did take notice with the re use of last years recycling at times and the lack of certain stages like salou beach.
Making arena panzerplatte DLC for purchase oh no you dont
....and yet, I cannot run WRC7 with my new MOZA R9.
It does not even recognize that controller.
While we are at it... Why can't I use a mouse in the menus?
I hope they will stay in rally simulation, Codemasters definitely need competition.
Cant play any of them because the frame rate is tied to the physics and with AMD it just doesnt work. I even went back and tried 7,8, and 9 and they all perform the same lol
A ver si arreglais el forcéfeeback en wrc 10
I would have been excited by codemasters taking over the franchise if it wasn't for EA buying out codemasters. Everything EA touches turns to shit. F122 case in point.
I need this.. bummer there is no vr in it. I drive so much better in vr.. can't get enough of it. Got to save up my pennies though to afford WRC Generations. livestreams will be fun.
i thing this is good what they stop make rally games and go develop test drive unlimited series
because codmasters anyway maked better rally sims, but people and industry need reborn of test drive
High hopes day continue V really franchise
In the main Codies will help ruin WRC. In F1, they've spent many years taking one step forward and two backwards. Codemasters will milk WRC for every penny they can get. I don't plan to support EA by buying WRC after Generations has launched.
I'm looking forward to seeing what KT does with the Rallying genre after WRC. I hope we get even more realism, and longer stages moving forwards. I'd love to know from KT, what restrictions the FIA placed on the studio - which limited the games. But I guess nobody will ever ask KT this.
A good developer would never have shipped the PS5 version of WRC10, with such bad screen tearing and frame stuttering.
WRC 8 got me into rally games I put quite a number of hours into that one thought it was a good game. I did start playing WRC 10 but to be honest I barely touch it now after finding dirt rally 2.0 GOTY edition in a sale cheap. I just find dirt rally 2.0 the better rally game the cars actually sound like cars and there's a level of immersion that the WRC games don't have for me. I will likely skip WRC generations. It could get interesting now Codemasters have the official WRC game licence.
I feel the same, I started with wrc 9 then I buy wrc 10 and almost haven't played it then I started to play Dirt 2.0 and it's a better game overall I think I will skip generations since I believe will be just the cars update the tracks will be the same like previous years.
dr2 💀 bro what
What about evolution studio their first wrc was pethetic compared rally evolved
Great idea for another video or an overall WRC game retrospective! We miss those PS2 games!
Evolved was a fitting name for sure.
@@TraxionGG Lots of fun was had.
honestly, i *hate* the kylotonn games. the way they play, the handling model, the suspension physics... i always try, and they always feel like you're driving on clouds, it's floaty as all hell, like you're not driving cars but hovercrafts. it's awful. and it goes for all their games ; wrc, v-rally, their truck games (including the fia european truck championship one from 2019 released under "n-racing"), even the isle of man tt felt more like wave race than anything remotely ressembling bike physics... yet, i can't help but be fascinated at how the games and company have evolved, how the wrc series has progressed so much that they're sometimes positively compared to dirt rally, how they were the very first studio crazy enough to replicate rally stages 1for1, how they've been so ahead of the curve on official e-competition, how, in the end, they've been at it through *three* generations of wrc rules...... so yea, i hate the games, they're not what i want/like to play, but i kinda love what the studio's trying (succeeding?) to do... it's weird :P
Sounds like you don't know much about car setups. Default car settings are not great and it is done for a reason.
Shame they have lost the licence to Codies. Have no faith in Codies anymore after the last few games bar F1.... WRC 10 was fantastic much better than Dirt Rally.
they've had the same stuttering issues for YEARS but haven't fixed it. They've reused the same low polygon models for the last several generations. Not sure what you're smoking. They're either lazy, blind or most likely, don't have the manpower to fix foundational problems.
So bad...
Excited for Codemasters 2023 !
Turns out, ea wrc is terrible...
I'm glad EA didn't buy V-Rally and TDU. I hope V-Rally 5 is better than EA WRC.
I’m so glad Codemasters/EA are taking the WRC License over. I’m sorry but Kylotonn have been getting away with murder with this franchise. Especially when you compare it with the Dirt games.
With Codies taking over you will have to accept different set of flaws in the game. None of this games are perfect.
Only things Dirt games are better are graphics, engine sounds, and classic cars. Everything else WRC is better lmao.
Epic? After 10 issues are a crap. I have 3 of them but why😢. Latest one has terrible sounds. They can not recreate normal car sounds. Epic fail!