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Hay panda I agree with how the parents said autistic instead of has autism but thats it also Im autistic if you want to know more about it research or ask me also the stuff you said about autism is kinda… ableist or atleast came across this way
My friend fell asleep while driving and ended up hitting the ditch and his car rolled and he got throw from his truck. He broke the seat belt. It shattered his pelvis. He needed surgery. When they got him to the hospital, before he passed out, he told the medics he refuses blood. Since he refused blood they hooked him up to this machine that helped with the blood flow. He died a week later cause the machine clotted. At his memorial the Elders praised him for "standing by Jehovah till the very end" Add that to the list of reasons why I left
It aggravates me that they’re talking about autistics like that. I’m autistic. I’m not defective. I simply communicate differently than allistic people. I communicate just fine with other autistics. That they want their child to be “normal” is absolutely ridiculous. They can’t accept him for who he is? They’re waiting for the paradise to meet a son who isn’t their son because he isn’t the same. I’m glad that they understand how to work with him in his situation, though. To give him the consistency that he needs and the safety that helps him in every day life.
They can’t accept him because of how brainwashed they are. They seem like nice enough people, and like they love their son, but at some point someone told them a lie and they believed it. Yes, raising someone with severe autism can be draining. Especially if they need round the clock care or special accommodations regarding education and other such things. And that’s probably part of the reason why they fell for this shit so hard. That’s why cults like JW are so harmful. They prey on people’s emotions, their feelings, their insecurities. They get them when they’re vulnerable and spread too thin and sell them some fantastical belief.
My brother is autistic and it saddens me to that other people think that he’s weird because he communicates in a different way from them and thinks in a different way from them. We get strange looks all the time but the strangest looks we have gotten were from the JW’s
I am autistic too and it makes me real sad everytime my mom denies the existence of autism (she's not even a JW, but it's still wrong especially when she took me to get a PROFESSIONAL diagnosis). life is already hard enough and i'm sick of people making it worse by telling people with autism that they're not normal, less than other people or treat us like babies. they act like its a disease when its something youre BORN with and will NEVER be changed :(
yeah as an autistic person this was just... hurtful. you literally can't separate a person from their autism. autism is how our brains are wired. without autism, we wouldn't be the same person. the parents basically just want their kid to be someone else
I'm autistic, and when I was a JW, my grandma told me that god would cure me of autism. That had honestly scared me, because I knew that without it I wouldn't be the same person.
I used to be told similar stuff in the Catholic Church. That everything “wrong” with me would be “fixed” when I got to heaven. Considering that the same person said that my dog wouldn’t go to heaven because it didn’t have a soul, I shouldn’t have taken it so seriously. I’m glad you’re out of there now.
@Taren259 Thank Everything that I was diagnosed a couple years AFTER we left JW (people were trying to gossip and get into our business, pushing boundaries, things like that). Phew!!
As an ExJW with autism, long term disabilities like that, especially ones that do not have a cure, were greatly invalidated. Whenever I would struggle with any of my disabilities and mental illnesses, they weren't addressed because the paradise is almost here and it will be cured then !
As an ex-Catholic I’ve heard that argument being used against those who left that religion as well (as well as those who have left many other denominations). While I was devout in college one time I got into an argument with a Baptist missionary on which one of us was going to hell and it’s one of the most absurd moments in my life because none of it would’ve mattered anyways if some other religion like Islam was the One True Faith as both of us would’ve been damned anyways no matter how devout we were in our respective religions. That’s also the main reason why that argument falls apart for me, while I’ve had moments of self-gaslighting I’ve exposed myself to other religions that I never bothered to learn about and reading the Qu’ran’s many threats against unbelievers with hellfire has greatly lessened those fears (the Book of Mormon has also some of those same threats but not as much if I remember correctly). As I’ve heard others say by the logic of this wager we should all convert to Islam since it has the most explicit descriptions of the punishments we might get, and yet the entire time when I was Catholic and Christian I never took those threats seriously.
Imagine living for eternity under the rules of a despotic entity that can watch your every steps, just in case they can condemn you to eternal suffering and despair. That's sad that some people are this gullible.
Hehe, to be precise, this isn't wrong for the JWs and Mormons because they're both cults that have counterfeit Christianity. If you are Christian or Christians leaning, then you should leave them anyways
@monus782 tbh, Protestants hating Catholics is expected even though it's something stupid. Its a historical thing especially in America and I'm tired of it. Hell, there's JWs that hate Catholicism and one got mad when I said that I'm interested in it.. I am currently seeking Orthodox Christianity, and I'll admit that denominations doing all this infighting distracts others from Christ. My fear was that Orthodox Christians would face this hatred from other Christians as they are generally a small portion of the population and their Christianity is foreign compared to Protestantism. They already nailed down the essentials of Christianity anyways. JWs though aren't Christian
How someone can believe a religion and devote their life for a religion starting in the 1800s and have been proven wrong way more than once is beyond me
Fear tactics and the threat of losing family forever. If you're talking about the governing body though, I often wonder if they believe what they're saying. They seem quite familiar with arguments against their organisation and just instruct members to ignore them. 🤔
I dont really get the dichotomy of JW's "must build" but also "the world is coming to an end - tomorrow". It's clear, they do not really believe what they are saying.
One of my friends told me I would live to be in my 100’s after talking about it being a common thing on my dad’s side of the family. It internally behooved me because we were just having a discussion about Armageddon being close to happening.
I have apeirophobia, so the idea of eternity or infinity creeps me out. Also, as a neurodivergent man, it makes me sick how they portrayed that autistic child. They may think they're being compassionate, but they see him as a lesser human being. God, I hate this cult.
Omg same I didn’t know there was a name but I feel like sometimes I wanna sin so much I don’t get resurrected because infinity scares the shit out of me, even if it will so called be “a better time”
@beany10123o Look, if sinning in this cult is defined by practicing your birthday or finding friends, then I think you should 'sin.' You absolutely deserve to have an amazing life.
Right as I opened this video an older sister from my past congregation showed up to ask about the memorial. I left 8 years ago. I need to move I'm so tired
Yes my brother invited me to the memorial out of the blue. I think it’s because of the new “guidance” that it’s okay to talk to disfellowshipped people as long as you’re inviting them to a meeting. So now everyone is going through their old address books to find people to invite. 🤨
The song is telling, 2/3 of kids born into JW families leave the religion and living in the Information age that will only get worse. WT knows this and are desperately trying to stop the flow😁
I was privileged enough to be invited to my stepmother's JW funeral a couple of years ago... and the entire privilege was just having it reinforced so hard why I left this load of bullshite religion. The conversation almost entirely centred around how "we will be holding resurrection parties soon!!" 🙄... one of the most cringe experiences of my life
It's not only cringe, but it's kinda devastating too. These people are still in the dark, not realizing that the teaching of ressurection is far from the truth.
Totally with you there. How long have they been standing outside paradise scalping counterfeit tickets and hacking.. What was that about to whom no earthling man belongs, talking about salvation. Guess "Jesus Brothers" aren't earthly. But they are deceptive.
@@daydream5120 I feel you entirely there, sadly the focus wasn't on her life, these things are really disrespectful to what these people have contributed to their community. I was really quite annoyed at this.
"Feed my Faith. Starve my doubts". Ah, so that the JW version of mormonism's "Doubt your doubts before you doubt your faith". Do any of these cults have original ideas anymore?
I have autism. It makes me angry that these pricks put so much pressure on you to be a "good JW" whether you have special needs or not. I can't tell you how messed up I am from being pressured to participate in the preaching work and to do talks etc when life was hard enough as it was. It was hard enough standing out because of my autism at school without being pressured to stand up and walk out in front of everyone every time the school sang Christmas songs etc. I'm angry about that example being put in this broadcast. Every broadcast is more pressure put on those who can relate to whatever is being depicted. Great. 😑 I also want to add that my parents used to tell me all of the time that I will be different in the new world. It wasn't upsetting because it isn't true, it's upsetting that I wasn't enough the way I was and they were looking forward to a time when I would be different. Sorry for the long comment but I wanted to vent and thought that having the perspective of someone with autism could be interesting for you...
I am so very sorry sweet girl. I’m still going through this at 39, but I’m so glad my son Ozzie doesn’t have to go through it , even though we live next door to my parents. I get upset when they say he would be fixed , he doesn’t need fixed . I am so hurt to my core you went through this. Stay strong . My name is Ashley Godwin from Pa ❤
@@Ashleycycle For some reason I never saw a notification for this comment. Thank you so much for your kind words. Thankfully I'm grown up and married now, far away from the JWs but when I watch things like this it brings a lot of feelings up for sure. I hope that you and your son are doing well ❤️
The Bible says at 1 John 4:1 “Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired statement, but test the inspired statements to see whether they originate with God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world” NWT no less. So it is a clear indication and recommendation from Christ to question everything. so for WT to say questioning the governing body is a disfellowshipping offense then they are going against scripture. They have no proof they are the “TRUTH” besides claiming they are. So why shouldn’t I question them? The chapter continues to talk about Christ coming in the flesh and we know JW’s say he came back as a spirit. Again going against scripture. Mind you this is literally the first two verses in the same chapter of the same book of the Bible that they completely distorted and twisted to match their doctrine. There are numerous amounts of errors the WT makes that easily debated and debunked just by reading the Bible from their own translation no less. They are a cult and hypocrites and will have to answer to Christ when he returns.
25:10 Okay, THIS pisses me off. The cult is NOT kind to disabled people and mental health trouble at all - they look down on seeking help for mental health issues outside the cult despite how needed those resources are but they'll happily tout us for their image. Not to mention, the meetings are some of the most understimulating garbage imaginable. Even the most boring teachers I had as a kid were more engaging than the talks I'd endured as a JW. As an autistic kid prone to understimulation? I was a frequent visitor of the nursing mother's room to be spanked for getting fussy. I'd have been able to handle meetings so much better had I been allowed to hold something like a small toy, but no, god forbid a child have a reasonable accommodation in 'Jehovah's house'. They should be forced to get bored, irritable, understimulated, and fussy then subsequently punished for being an upset child in an environment that isn't accommodating to kids.
Serious question : why are they always talking in such a drab monotone voice? Religions are always how the make you "feel". I damn near fall asleep listening to the jw watchtower videos. (ps I'm not jw, but ex Christian /pentecostal)
It's a type of neurological programming the aim is to get you into a trance like state and prevent critical thinking. This is why so many JW go blank when you ask them questions or try to engage them in speech outside of their programming.
They said the same thing to me 50 years ago when I was young. I sat to an old man that heard the same lies 50 years before that. 100+ years of false teachings and what in the end did they do? ruin peoples lives. They did get one thing right "religion is a snare and a racket".
finally left after 16 years and i took my brother to apostate land with me 😂, my sister left also but there’s no changing my moms “strong undoubting faith” 🤣
I know what this guy means by "poly-crisis", I had one of those in the bathroom this morning and it really threw me off spiritually as well. Immense wisdom.
It's so weird how I was brought up catholic, and yet the whole time, whether in church or school, my mind was like Homer Simpson. Completely indifferent to everything. Never stopped to really think about God and what I believe til I was about 18, read some of the bible and was like, absolutely not! I was just on autopilot until I was about 12 and started to care about music, and then the rest of my brain slowly went online as I grew up.
I was screaming about the internet and awareness of global issues as soon as he said "poly-crisis". Then you immediately did and I thought, JW Panda gets me. Lol. Also I've NEVER heard that term elsewhere. Has anyone?
@@ARedMagicMarkerThat's true. If you want to join the "prime elite" there, the Sea Org (kind of the Bethel for Scientologists). This contract obligates your spirit or "thetan" to come back to the Sea Org in your next lives. Also children get to sign this contract as children are seen as small adults in Scientology.
Before I met your channel, I didn't have a clue of how the situation was on cults in this world and I fell in love with like... This whole message of this channel ever since. I do believe it spreads a helpful message of how religion can be exploited to our detriment. I am super sorry if I sound like a TED talk stuff - it's been a long shift and I am super tired Just I dunno Supporting sounds ;ь
I'm glad you continue to make well scripted, cohesive, and well thoughtout videos. I know it's not easy to produce content like this without burn out, but your perspective is needed for those who are still in, and the families who want to help.
Im hooked on your channel. My husband is a non strick JW who found the religion through prison time. The witnesses in there are more level headed and not like the organization leaders so he had no idea these organization leaders were this crazy because he never watched many of the watchtower videos. He is slowly waking up and realizing why he's treated a bit indifferent from alot of the brothers in his congregation. Not al of them are nuts but some wanted to start drama so after returning for being inactive for a bit due to life he was approached by these idiots and scared him off to take another break. I would say he is slowly waking up and will soon not support the religion as he gets to see the watchtower leaders for who they really are, just as crazy as these asshole brothers.
Already a minute in and i cringed at your introduction of WHAT this is about. This whole religion is such bullshit. And i want to say, i found your yt channel a week ago and i love your content. I was born as a JW i left when i was 18 after enduring enough trauma to say this wasnt where i was suppose to be. I use to be a regular pioneer and serve where the need is great with my family. I wasted my life away, especially struggling with being a closeted queer trans kid. Ive made friends since i left 3 years ago, im out, and im so happy. Ive never felt so happy. When i left, i thought i was going to be unhappy bc thats what i was tought. Thank you for uploading these videos. This is a safe place for me, knowing that theres a community of ppl that are just like me. I feel comforted... tysm.
I’m trans too, I’ve been feeling so lost and helpless because I don’t know what I want in my life, I want to live forever for my family because they love me, but everything the religion stands for doesn’t make sense to me and I hate it
I hope that you can find your own true path,@@beany10123o . If I am allowed to say something, you already know deep inside what you want. You will eventually realize it and make things happen as they are bound to, even if it takes time. Don`t let their religion make you unhappy, because this is what happened to me for 27 years. Now I`m 32 and my life is finally happy!!!
I don't know what it is with this Autism stigma; I am Autistic and I love it. Ok, I am a high-functioning Autistic person, but it is still a disability - and yet it is part of me, part of my personality. I wouldn't be me without being Autistic. I do believe that I will go to Heaven (I have never been a JW) and I sincerely hope that I will be Autistic there too. All the superpowers, all the gifting; I wouldn't be without it. For me, there is nothing at all sad about being Autistic.
(Kinda touchy feely) but watching the broadcast again after such awhile, even if it’s a reaction video brought up wayy more feelings than I thought it would. It’s funny how logically you can move past things but it’s almost like my body still remembers how awful and powerless i felt being forced to watch these every month. I’m just so happy I’m out and to anyone who’s still pimo, u got this❤
One of my major rules is that I will NEVER sit through one of their sh!tty music videos. Had FF through that, it's just too irritating to even humor. That would be my moment of cringe.
Why did they baptize him, people let babies witnesses at five and nine on stage or constant reciting scriptures to show off, had nothing to do with life or God, I've seen it. Poor kids and parents get angry if kids mess up or unprepared. It's so tiring.
How does living forever allow you to find out who your ancestors are all the way back “to the beginning”? Given only a percentage will be saved it means there is a fair chance some of your ancestors won’t be present so able to tell you who their children or mother or father were. Millions of people getting as far back as genghis Kahn before they can’t get further. 😂
Starting @11:47 approximately, THIS is how they destroy people's problem-solving skills. "Have endurance" instead of immediately seeking effective, practical solutions. "Pray to Jehovah" instead of reading secular and scientific literature and research to see the most effective ways to solve or at least alleviate the problems.
I've to say ever since I've been randomly recommended one of your Caleb And Sophia videos, I've been hooked. You've gained a new subscriber! :) Also, love the fact you use a red panda character as the face of the channel
Panda you are on fire! And must be hitting a nerve, the JW apologists and damage control is in full swing in the comments. Keep up the good work exposing the lies and misinformation spread.
Hello I heard some stuff about this as my mom and her mom where jw witnesses but eventually her mom married a person out side of her religion. She also said that it was like a cult. We are Christian still. I just thought that was cool
This is only an American issue... Everywhere else in the world, Catholics are THE default brand of Christianity. Not that their teachings are any more real.
I’ll be attending the memorial this weekend (I do it because it makes my grandparents happy) but man oh man I might fall asleep. Also I’m 25 and a vet. I don’t wanna do this but they’re in their 80s and one is “anointed”. Sometimes I feel like I do it for love. But at what cost lol
I'm autistic and I understand how hard it must be for parents having a child with high-needs and who would maybe never be independant and can't even communicate. Really, that must be so exhausting. But what doesn't help a bit is institutions full of neurotypical people who doesn't even really understand what being autistic means and feed these parents with bullshit instead of helping them with their child. No it's not a dicease, it can be "attenuated" but absolutely not cured. And breaking news, an autistic child having some sort of crisis is because they're not treated correctly so they're overwhelmed (because once again people are so obsessed with being "normal" that they don't listen to the actual needs of autistic people). And now we also have religions/cults appealing to desesperate parents with the hope that their child is like a blessing because "wow they're so different so unique" and would be cured ? Plz, autism, Down syndrome and other disorders aren't like a virus that's occulting the "real" person behind it. It IS what the person is like. What it does is that it keeps people wishing for a person who won't ever exist and will never be the one in front of them. It's really depressing for both parts.
It's always the music videos. Good lord. Mo-won't-a. C'MON! That vocalist could have made money off being a backup at Disney! But instead? She's trapped in a complex in a mountain recording for 8 (10 now?) old men ...
Fake promices is more appealing to people than ever was. Im not theiest but i stuggle with doubs. Being hated by religion for being gay makes me hate it even more.
somehow i managed to pull through without losing the cringe challenge up until the song and as soon as the singing started i was trying not to punch my monitor
I am 53 and left the organization and an abusive marriage 3 years ago. I was in most of my adult life. I raised my kids in this crap (they never were baptised). No one, including me😂, ever thought I would leave the cult. But I did. I left thanks to Jesus , the ExJW community, the elders for being so cruel, the Australian Royal Commission and learning about narcissism. I'm living the most fulfilled life ever. I'm in college and doing a job I love. I'm traveling and making real friends. It was devastating to admit I ruined my kids childhood and wasted my life. But the rewards of living an authentic life today, with my family is worth it. Never give up hope on your JW family and friends ❤
I no longer support JW theology. When i hear people say that they would not want to live forever, that's corny. There are an endless amount of things to do in this existence. There's so many things that I want to learn and master that I know I will not have the time to do. Living forever sounds dope. Too bad JWs can't provide that. Love your content Panda!
I think you're just expressing what Panda's point was, that you would more time than you're going to get. But FOREVER?! You would absolutely reach a point of boredom. You may be able to keep starting over, maybe, and reinventing yourself, but after a few centuries you wouldn't even recognize who you were from where you started.
@@Eric_01 how can you make that claim? All current human knowledge barely scratches the surface of whatever "everything" is. Do you know how expansive this universe is? Even just in the realm of Earth the variety of things to learn is ridiculous. Some people devote their entire lives to one subject, say a specific species of animal. And still don't learn everything. And if you're into evolution, then stuff will evolve into new things.
Age. That’s all that stops you. Age will take you to a point where the body will not function, and the mind starts playing tricks. 80 years old sounds terrifying!!No thanks. Only the good die young🌸🕊️💜
43:47 I often bring up points like this with my mom, and all she does is laugh in my face. It’s so refreshing to know someone else thinks of it the same way.
In certain situations I can see how Faith does bring a lot of comfort and peace. We should be thankful that we don't have those situations and we can use our independent thinking without cataclysmic anxiety when those tough situations come around.
I wonder if there are those who participated in propaganda films or sang songs but later left the cult? What do they think now about their contribution to propaganda? Do you know any of them?
I recommend learning about the terms high support needs and low support needs. It's a bad idea to blanket say that autistic people can't make such a complex decision. It depends on the person. The bigger issue I see is that neurodivergent children of JWs are already in a situation where inability to conform is heavily punished, and they are kept away from people who could intervene. The issue with saying that autistic people automatically can't make decisions for themselves is that it adds to the culture of conservatorship. For instance, transphobic people argue that trans people are autistic, and that autistic people can't understand their own genders or sexuality.
The parallels between JW and IngSoc are uncanny. The only reason JW is dying is because they can't eliminate members smart enough to leave or harm the cult in any other way.
I will say that there’s a misconception about people with Down syndrome. They aren’t the same as people who have autism and often times are perfectly functional mentally. It’s more a physical “abnormality” A lot of people treat those with Down syndrome as mentally handicapped and so they behave exactly that way. But I get your point. And I feel heavily that Witnesses are the very people who handicap their children with DS
31:15 I used to says that it's like if your brain has bitten a lemon. So when I tell to JW that their book don't have any grip on me as it's a ficitionnal book, they become agressive and pushy. Just like if their brains have bitten on a lemon.
Never stop your great activism and most importantly please never stop exposing them everyone deserves to know the crude reality about jehovahs witnesses so that they won't fall by jehovahs witnesses tricks
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I think all the hand gestures are so we watch his hands and not listen with our heads.
A FOREVER CULT? NO....
Omg just seen your next member only videos, well I'm unsubscribing
@@Charlie-f4q4o from who? IM not member coz im broke.
Hay panda I agree with how the parents said autistic instead of has autism but thats it also Im autistic if you want to know more about it research or ask me also the stuff you said about autism is kinda… ableist or atleast came across this way
Why dude. Why lie? I’m a 15 yr old witness and these are all lies
I told my sister today that she wouldn’t like what I’d have to say. Wish me luck guys. This could go any which way.
good luck, hopefully she's already thinking similar things or at least understands.
Godspeed, friend
Wishing you the best!
Good luck for you and your family. You are right to try and fight for them! We have to try!
Tell her the truth whether she likes it or not!
My friend fell asleep while driving and ended up hitting the ditch and his car rolled and he got throw from his truck. He broke the seat belt. It shattered his pelvis. He needed surgery. When they got him to the hospital, before he passed out, he told the medics he refuses blood. Since he refused blood they hooked him up to this machine that helped with the blood flow. He died a week later cause the machine clotted. At his memorial the Elders praised him for "standing by Jehovah till the very end"
Add that to the list of reasons why I left
You are smart
Holy shit man 😢
I offer my sincerest condolences. Have you healed since then?
this sounds actually devastating, i am so sorry for you man.
I'm so sorry about your friend. And it's crazy what these JWs stand for and praise each other for.
Being a JW just seems so absolutely boring, because everything other than recruiting new converts and reading the publications is not allowed.
Oh no, it's much worse
. Hearing how they speak like robots trying to sound human😂😂😂
O it is, it is
I've never been a JW or Mormon but I am an Ex Christian but JW is absolute rubbish from what I've heard. 💀
It absolutely is, it's just going to meetings, preaching and not celebrating holidays.
You couldn't be more wrong if you tried, you are clueless.
It aggravates me that they’re talking about autistics like that.
I’m autistic. I’m not defective. I simply communicate differently than allistic people. I communicate just fine with other autistics.
That they want their child to be “normal” is absolutely ridiculous. They can’t accept him for who he is? They’re waiting for the paradise to meet a son who isn’t their son because he isn’t the same.
I’m glad that they understand how to work with him in his situation, though. To give him the consistency that he needs and the safety that helps him in every day life.
They can’t accept him because of how brainwashed they are. They seem like nice enough people, and like they love their son, but at some point someone told them a lie and they believed it.
Yes, raising someone with severe autism can be draining. Especially if they need round the clock care or special accommodations regarding education and other such things. And that’s probably part of the reason why they fell for this shit so hard.
That’s why cults like JW are so harmful. They prey on people’s emotions, their feelings, their insecurities. They get them when they’re vulnerable and spread too thin and sell them some fantastical belief.
My brother is autistic and it saddens me to that other people think that he’s weird because he communicates in a different way from them and thinks in a different way from them. We get strange looks all the time but the strangest looks we have gotten were from the JW’s
Oh man I haven't gotten to that part of the video yet and I know it's gonna be so depressing. At least we have eachother. 🥲
I am autistic too and it makes me real sad everytime my mom denies the existence of autism (she's not even a JW, but it's still wrong especially when she took me to get a PROFESSIONAL diagnosis). life is already hard enough and i'm sick of people making it worse by telling people with autism that they're not normal, less than other people or treat us like babies. they act like its a disease when its something youre BORN with and will NEVER be changed :(
yeah as an autistic person this was just... hurtful. you literally can't separate a person from their autism. autism is how our brains are wired. without autism, we wouldn't be the same person. the parents basically just want their kid to be someone else
I'm autistic, and when I was a JW, my grandma told me that god would cure me of autism. That had honestly scared me, because I knew that without it I wouldn't be the same person.
awful thing to hear, I hope you have people who cherish you right now 💕
@@respectthefish4992 I do. I'm even married now to someone who loves me.
I used to be told similar stuff in the Catholic Church. That everything “wrong” with me would be “fixed” when I got to heaven. Considering that the same person said that my dog wouldn’t go to heaven because it didn’t have a soul, I shouldn’t have taken it so seriously. I’m glad you’re out of there now.
@Taren259 Thank Everything that I was diagnosed a couple years AFTER we left JW (people were trying to gossip and get into our business, pushing boundaries, things like that). Phew!!
I don't know why autism is so frowned upon, they're the best and most pure humans on the planet!
The fact that they’re using the CONGO, a country currently facing SILENT GENOCIDE is the most cynical thing I have ever seen
and they support israel country which commits genocide in palestine
As an ExJW with autism, long term disabilities like that, especially ones that do not have a cure, were greatly invalidated. Whenever I would struggle with any of my disabilities and mental illnesses, they weren't addressed because the paradise is almost here and it will be cured then !
Sort of same with education and building a good life. Always delayed.
What if we pick the wrong religion aren’t we making god madder and madder- Homer Simpson.
Nuclear plant worker debunks Pascal's Wager
As an ex-Catholic I’ve heard that argument being used against those who left that religion as well (as well as those who have left many other denominations).
While I was devout in college one time I got into an argument with a Baptist missionary on which one of us was going to hell and it’s one of the most absurd moments in my life because none of it would’ve mattered anyways if some other religion like Islam was the One True Faith as both of us would’ve been damned anyways no matter how devout we were in our respective religions. That’s also the main reason why that argument falls apart for me, while I’ve had moments of self-gaslighting I’ve exposed myself to other religions that I never bothered to learn about and reading the Qu’ran’s many threats against unbelievers with hellfire has greatly lessened those fears (the Book of Mormon has also some of those same threats but not as much if I remember correctly).
As I’ve heard others say by the logic of this wager we should all convert to Islam since it has the most explicit descriptions of the punishments we might get, and yet the entire time when I was Catholic and Christian I never took those threats seriously.
Imagine living for eternity under the rules of a despotic entity that can watch your every steps, just in case they can condemn you to eternal suffering and despair.
That's sad that some people are this gullible.
Hehe, to be precise, this isn't wrong for the JWs and Mormons because they're both cults that have counterfeit Christianity. If you are Christian or Christians leaning, then you should leave them anyways
@monus782 tbh, Protestants hating Catholics is expected even though it's something stupid. Its a historical thing especially in America and I'm tired of it. Hell, there's JWs that hate Catholicism and one got mad when I said that I'm interested in it.. I am currently seeking Orthodox Christianity, and I'll admit that denominations doing all this infighting distracts others from Christ. My fear was that Orthodox Christians would face this hatred from other Christians as they are generally a small portion of the population and their Christianity is foreign compared to Protestantism. They already nailed down the essentials of Christianity anyways. JWs though aren't Christian
How someone can believe a religion and devote their life for a religion starting in the 1800s and have been proven wrong way more than once is beyond me
Trauma and/or long-term childhood indoctrination is a b*tch.
Mormonism, among other high control groups/cults rely on a similar power control strategy. *wheezes in pain and cringe*
Fear tactics and the threat of losing family forever. If you're talking about the governing body though, I often wonder if they believe what they're saying. They seem quite familiar with arguments against their organisation and just instruct members to ignore them. 🤔
@@wurstbrat.There's a theory that they are just using the entire cult as a relestate scam.
For the same reason the people still believe in a book that has been proven fatally wrong at least 2000 years
I dont really get the dichotomy of JW's "must build" but also "the world is coming to an end - tomorrow". It's clear, they do not really believe what they are saying.
Exactly my thoughts. It is madness.
One of my friends told me I would live to be in my 100’s after talking about it being a common thing on my dad’s side of the family. It internally behooved me because we were just having a discussion about Armageddon being close to happening.
I have apeirophobia, so the idea of eternity or infinity creeps me out.
Also, as a neurodivergent man, it makes me sick how they portrayed that autistic child. They may think they're being compassionate, but they see him as a lesser human being. God, I hate this cult.
Omg same I didn’t know there was a name but I feel like sometimes I wanna sin so much I don’t get resurrected because infinity scares the shit out of me, even if it will so called be “a better time”
@beany10123o Look, if sinning in this cult is defined by practicing your birthday or finding friends, then I think you should 'sin.' You absolutely deserve to have an amazing life.
Right as I opened this video an older sister from my past congregation showed up to ask about the memorial. I left 8 years ago. I need to move I'm so tired
Yes my brother invited me to the memorial out of the blue. I think it’s because of the new “guidance” that it’s okay to talk to disfellowshipped people as long as you’re inviting them to a meeting. So now everyone is going through their old address books to find people to invite. 🤨
The song is telling, 2/3 of kids born into JW families leave the religion and living in the Information age that will only get worse. WT knows this and are desperately trying to stop the flow😁
"I feed my confirmation bias and starve my intellect."
😂😂😂
The actual title of the song reading between the lines, and it's such a red flag because mind control.
Says 28k, shows 30k, is actually 33k. hopefully the number keeps increasing as it is!
34 now
Number of what?
@@jesh9426subscribers
@@jesh9426number of subscribers 😉
@@jesh9426 Subscribers
I was privileged enough to be invited to my stepmother's JW funeral a couple of years ago... and the entire privilege was just having it reinforced so hard why I left this load of bullshite religion. The conversation almost entirely centred around how "we will be holding resurrection parties soon!!" 🙄... one of the most cringe experiences of my life
It's not only cringe, but it's kinda devastating too. These people are still in the dark, not realizing that the teaching of ressurection is far from the truth.
Totally with you there. How long have they been standing outside paradise scalping counterfeit tickets and hacking..
What was that about to whom no earthling man belongs, talking about salvation. Guess "Jesus Brothers" aren't earthly. But they are deceptive.
It’s sad there wasn’t focus on her death, even if she did come back death must not be nice.
I literally cried at my step-grandmother’s funeral because of this exact teaching. I felt like they were not giving her the due respect she deserved
@@daydream5120 I feel you entirely there, sadly the focus wasn't on her life, these things are really disrespectful to what these people have contributed to their community. I was really quite annoyed at this.
Iam in paradise now. Free from JWs, educated, living and teaching in Japan, China, Korea and Australia.
Sounds exciting! 😮
Happy for you. Cults don't give you freedom. Only your intuition.
Based
"Feed my faith and starve my doubts." Tell me you're in a cult without telling you're in a cult.
"Feed my Faith. Starve my doubts". Ah, so that the JW version of mormonism's "Doubt your doubts before you doubt your faith". Do any of these cults have original ideas anymore?
It’s only so much you can say to keep a fairytale alive 😂
Says 28k, shows 30k, an hour later it's 33.9k! Great content man! Keep it up!
I have autism. It makes me angry that these pricks put so much pressure on you to be a "good JW" whether you have special needs or not. I can't tell you how messed up I am from being pressured to participate in the preaching work and to do talks etc when life was hard enough as it was.
It was hard enough standing out because of my autism at school without being pressured to stand up and walk out in front of everyone every time the school sang Christmas songs etc.
I'm angry about that example being put in this broadcast. Every broadcast is more pressure put on those who can relate to whatever is being depicted. Great. 😑
I also want to add that my parents used to tell me all of the time that I will be different in the new world. It wasn't upsetting because it isn't true, it's upsetting that I wasn't enough the way I was and they were looking forward to a time when I would be different.
Sorry for the long comment but I wanted to vent and thought that having the perspective of someone with autism could be interesting for you...
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I am so very sorry sweet girl. I’m still going through this at 39, but I’m so glad my son Ozzie doesn’t have to go through it , even though we live next door to my parents. I get upset when they say he would be fixed , he doesn’t need fixed . I am so hurt to my core you went through this. Stay strong . My name is Ashley Godwin from Pa ❤
@@Ashleycycle For some reason I never saw a notification for this comment. Thank you so much for your kind words. Thankfully I'm grown up and married now, far away from the JWs but when I watch things like this it brings a lot of feelings up for sure. I hope that you and your son are doing well ❤️
Growing up with autism in a JW family sounds like such a traumatic time :(
The Bible says at 1 John 4:1 “Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired statement, but test the inspired statements to see whether they originate with God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world” NWT no less. So it is a clear indication and recommendation from Christ to question everything. so for WT to say questioning the governing body is a disfellowshipping offense then they are going against scripture. They have no proof they are the “TRUTH” besides claiming they are. So why shouldn’t I question them? The chapter continues to talk about Christ coming in the flesh and we know JW’s say he came back as a spirit. Again going against scripture. Mind you this is literally the first two verses in the same chapter of the same book of the Bible that they completely distorted and twisted to match their doctrine. There are numerous amounts of errors the WT makes that easily debated and debunked just by reading the Bible from their own translation no less. They are a cult and hypocrites and will have to answer to Christ when he returns.
they fr twisting the scripture to this extent
citations:
[1] trust me bro
[2] it was revealed in my dream
[3] invalidated book
I got a religious ad while watching this video im dying☠️☠️☠️
Get ad blocking software.
I get them all the time. Once I got a Scientology ad under a video about cults 💀
4:13 that tie is a polycrisis.
It is the name of its pattern 👌
0:45 already lost it😬..."feed your hope", and a face only a mother can love
Same🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮
25:10 Okay, THIS pisses me off. The cult is NOT kind to disabled people and mental health trouble at all - they look down on seeking help for mental health issues outside the cult despite how needed those resources are but they'll happily tout us for their image.
Not to mention, the meetings are some of the most understimulating garbage imaginable. Even the most boring teachers I had as a kid were more engaging than the talks I'd endured as a JW. As an autistic kid prone to understimulation? I was a frequent visitor of the nursing mother's room to be spanked for getting fussy.
I'd have been able to handle meetings so much better had I been allowed to hold something like a small toy, but no, god forbid a child have a reasonable accommodation in 'Jehovah's house'. They should be forced to get bored, irritable, understimulated, and fussy then subsequently punished for being an upset child in an environment that isn't accommodating to kids.
I feel bad for the ADHD kids stuck at those meetings too :/
Im sorry. I lost the cringe challenge with the couple with the autistic child.
Got this sinking feeling.
Serious question : why are they always talking in such a drab monotone voice?
Religions are always how the make you "feel". I damn near fall asleep listening to the jw watchtower videos. (ps I'm not jw, but ex Christian /pentecostal)
Catholicism was this bad too at times
It's a type of neurological programming the aim is to get you into a trance like state and prevent critical thinking. This is why so many JW go blank when you ask them questions or try to engage them in speech outside of their programming.
Like every good religious leaders, they do this to be hypnotic so people won't question whatever they say.
They said the same thing to me 50 years ago when I was young. I sat to an old man that heard the same lies 50 years before that. 100+ years of false teachings and what in the end did they do? ruin peoples lives. They did get one thing right "religion is a snare and a racket".
I cringed the moment that old man showed up behind a desk like he was working at f*cking fox news
finally left after 16 years and i took my brother to apostate land with me 😂, my sister left also but there’s no changing my moms “strong undoubting faith” 🤣
I think the older ones have doubts, they just don’t voice them and don’t want to admit they’ve been lied to for so many years.
I know what this guy means by "poly-crisis", I had one of those in the bathroom this morning and it really threw me off spiritually as well. Immense wisdom.
"Hope is Essential for Peace?" Never found that criteria in the Bible. Word Salad
The watchtower depicts God in the clouds sitting on a throne, does that mean they believe God is like a man?
He is a male, an angry narcissist and his enemies are babies. Facts🕊️🕊️
It's so weird how I was brought up catholic, and yet the whole time, whether in church or school, my mind was like Homer Simpson. Completely indifferent to everything. Never stopped to really think about God and what I believe til I was about 18, read some of the bible and was like, absolutely not! I was just on autopilot until I was about 12 and started to care about music, and then the rest of my brain slowly went online as I grew up.
17:13 "Now smile for the camera, or you won't go to paradise!"
Oops...did not take long. "Polycrisis" got me cringed lol ...these guys are such jokes. Good job on the video! Keep it up!
I was screaming about the internet and awareness of global issues as soon as he said "poly-crisis". Then you immediately did and I thought, JW Panda gets me. Lol. Also I've NEVER heard that term elsewhere. Has anyone?
If I have to be in their cult to live forever, NO thanks, I’ll pass!
Lol I said the same thing 😂
I heard the Church of Scientology makes you sign like a few million years-long contract. XD
@@ARedMagicMarkerThat's true. If you want to join the "prime elite" there, the Sea Org (kind of the Bethel for Scientologists). This contract obligates your spirit or "thetan" to come back to the Sea Org in your next lives. Also children get to sign this contract as children are seen as small adults in Scientology.
Before I met your channel, I didn't have a clue of how the situation was on cults in this world and I fell in love with like... This whole message of this channel ever since.
I do believe it spreads a helpful message of how religion can be exploited to our detriment. I am super sorry if I sound like a TED talk stuff - it's been a long shift and I am super tired
Just I dunno
Supporting sounds ;ь
>“Welcome you 28 thousand”
>Shows a picture of 30 thousand
>Has 34 thousand
I'm glad you continue to make well scripted, cohesive, and well thoughtout videos. I know it's not easy to produce content like this without burn out, but your perspective is needed for those who are still in, and the families who want to help.
I love watching your videos while studying for school, it reminds me to be sure of what sources I use and look out for biases!
Im hooked on your channel. My husband is a non strick JW who found the religion through prison time. The witnesses in there are more level headed and not like the organization leaders so he had no idea these organization leaders were this crazy because he never watched many of the watchtower videos. He is slowly waking up and realizing why he's treated a bit indifferent from alot of the brothers in his congregation. Not al of them are nuts but some wanted to start drama so after returning for being inactive for a bit due to life he was approached by these idiots and scared him off to take another break. I would say he is slowly waking up and will soon not support the religion as he gets to see the watchtower leaders for who they really are, just as crazy as these asshole brothers.
Already a minute in and i cringed at your introduction of WHAT this is about. This whole religion is such bullshit.
And i want to say, i found your yt channel a week ago and i love your content. I was born as a JW i left when i was 18 after enduring enough trauma to say this wasnt where i was suppose to be. I use to be a regular pioneer and serve where the need is great with my family. I wasted my life away, especially struggling with being a closeted queer trans kid. Ive made friends since i left 3 years ago, im out, and im so happy. Ive never felt so happy. When i left, i thought i was going to be unhappy bc thats what i was tought. Thank you for uploading these videos. This is a safe place for me, knowing that theres a community of ppl that are just like me. I feel comforted... tysm.
I'm really glad you got out, and have some self acceptance today :) you deserve it.
I'm transgender myself and I know exactly what you mean. Keep living a happy life ☺️
I’m trans too, I’ve been feeling so lost and helpless because I don’t know what I want in my life, I want to live forever for my family because they love me, but everything the religion stands for doesn’t make sense to me and I hate it
I hope that you can find your own true path,@@beany10123o . If I am allowed to say something, you already know deep inside what you want. You will eventually realize it and make things happen as they are bound to, even if it takes time. Don`t let their religion make you unhappy, because this is what happened to me for 27 years. Now I`m 32 and my life is finally happy!!!
I don't know what it is with this Autism stigma; I am Autistic and I love it. Ok, I am a high-functioning Autistic person, but it is still a disability - and yet it is part of me, part of my personality. I wouldn't be me without being Autistic. I do believe that I will go to Heaven (I have never been a JW) and I sincerely hope that I will be Autistic there too. All the superpowers, all the gifting; I wouldn't be without it. For me, there is nothing at all sad about being Autistic.
(Kinda touchy feely) but watching the broadcast again after such awhile, even if it’s a reaction video brought up wayy more feelings than I thought it would. It’s funny how logically you can move past things but it’s almost like my body still remembers how awful and powerless i felt being forced to watch these every month. I’m just so happy I’m out and to anyone who’s still pimo, u got this❤
Similar reaction here as well
One of my major rules is that I will NEVER sit through one of their sh!tty music videos. Had FF through that, it's just too irritating to even humor. That would be my moment of cringe.
Thank Jehovah for the ⏭️
Why did they baptize him, people let babies witnesses at five and nine on stage or constant reciting scriptures to show off, had nothing to do with life or God, I've seen it. Poor kids and parents get angry if kids mess up or unprepared. It's so tiring.
How does living forever allow you to find out who your ancestors are all the way back “to the beginning”?
Given only a percentage will be saved it means there is a fair chance some of your ancestors won’t be present so able to tell you who their children or mother or father were.
Millions of people getting as far back as genghis Kahn before they can’t get further. 😂
....dedicated 60 years to a lie" is really a sickening realisation. Overwhelming to say the least.
Starting @11:47 approximately, THIS is how they destroy people's problem-solving skills. "Have endurance" instead of immediately seeking effective, practical solutions. "Pray to Jehovah" instead of reading secular and scientific literature and research to see the most effective ways to solve or at least alleviate the problems.
I've to say ever since I've been randomly recommended one of your Caleb And Sophia videos, I've been hooked. You've gained a new subscriber! :)
Also, love the fact you use a red panda character as the face of the channel
Panda you are on fire! And must be hitting a nerve, the JW apologists and damage control is in full swing in the comments. Keep up the good work exposing the lies and misinformation spread.
"this parrot is dead....it is a deceased parrot" (Americans won't understand), I thought that was a poly crisis.
"Hello, Polly! Wake up! Time to rise and shine!" -Guy who bought dead parrot
I’m American and I understand! Love Monty Python ☺️
That tie is making me stumble.
Totally agree with you panda even tho im catholic, but most religions will always target someone emotions making them feel bad.😞
Are you practicing Catholic, or kinda just still Catholic because they leave you in their records no matter what you do?
Studeo space will eventuaally pocket them decent money. More than old Kingdom Halls
ngl, when you used the 'it seems to me like you're the EGGSPERT, Mark!' clip I just laughed out loud. Perfect meme deployment.
The speaker in this video looks like a religious John Mulaney who did not age gracefully lmao.
Mmm brainwashing yum yum yum
Hello I heard some stuff about this as my mom and her mom where jw witnesses but eventually her mom married a person out side of her religion. She also said that it was like a cult. We are Christian still. I just thought that was cool
when someone says catholics arent christian i gotta point these guys out
How does that make Catholics more xtian?
This is only an American issue... Everywhere else in the world, Catholics are THE default brand of Christianity. Not that their teachings are any more real.
I’ll be attending the memorial this weekend (I do it because it makes my grandparents happy) but man oh man I might fall asleep. Also I’m 25 and a vet. I don’t wanna do this but they’re in their 80s and one is “anointed”. Sometimes I feel like I do it for love. But at what cost lol
I’m more upset that “feed my faith” ended at 19 instead of at an even 20. That’s how you know this is diabolical.
I'm autistic and I understand how hard it must be for parents having a child with high-needs and who would maybe never be independant and can't even communicate. Really, that must be so exhausting. But what doesn't help a bit is institutions full of neurotypical people who doesn't even really understand what being autistic means and feed these parents with bullshit instead of helping them with their child. No it's not a dicease, it can be "attenuated" but absolutely not cured. And breaking news, an autistic child having some sort of crisis is because they're not treated correctly so they're overwhelmed (because once again people are so obsessed with being "normal" that they don't listen to the actual needs of autistic people). And now we also have religions/cults appealing to desesperate parents with the hope that their child is like a blessing because "wow they're so different so unique" and would be cured ? Plz, autism, Down syndrome and other disorders aren't like a virus that's occulting the "real" person behind it. It IS what the person is like. What it does is that it keeps people wishing for a person who won't ever exist and will never be the one in front of them. It's really depressing for both parts.
It's always the music videos. Good lord. Mo-won't-a. C'MON! That vocalist could have made money off being a backup at Disney! But instead? She's trapped in a complex in a mountain recording for 8 (10 now?) old men ...
There is no such thing as "credible" religion.
Fake promices is more appealing to people than ever was. Im not theiest but i stuggle with doubs. Being hated by religion for being gay makes me hate it even more.
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God cannot lie! But he changes his mind a lot according to JWs 🤣🤣🤣
Knowledge is power. So are memes. Panda, you and so many XJWs are defeating watchtower!
Thanks for the turoial! Starting my cult next monday
I was cringing the entire way through but the music video made me had to go to the bathroom.
somehow i managed to pull through without losing the cringe challenge up until the song and as soon as the singing started i was trying not to punch my monitor
I agree. My mum is 53 and she was born into the religioun and probably in her head that it’s too late tk chnage your mind
I am 53 and left the organization and an abusive marriage 3 years ago. I was in most of my adult life. I raised my kids in this crap (they never were baptised). No one, including me😂, ever thought I would leave the cult. But I did. I left thanks to Jesus , the ExJW community, the elders for being so cruel, the Australian Royal Commission and learning about narcissism. I'm living the most fulfilled life ever. I'm in college and doing a job I love. I'm traveling and making real friends. It was devastating to admit I ruined my kids childhood and wasted my life. But the rewards of living an authentic life today, with my family is worth it. Never give up hope on your JW family and friends ❤
I no longer support JW theology. When i hear people say that they would not want to live forever, that's corny. There are an endless amount of things to do in this existence. There's so many things that I want to learn and master that I know I will not have the time to do. Living forever sounds dope. Too bad JWs can't provide that. Love your content Panda!
I think you're just expressing what Panda's point was, that you would more time than you're going to get. But FOREVER?! You would absolutely reach a point of boredom. You may be able to keep starting over, maybe, and reinventing yourself, but after a few centuries you wouldn't even recognize who you were from where you started.
@@Eric_01 how can you make that claim? All current human knowledge barely scratches the surface of whatever "everything" is. Do you know how expansive this universe is? Even just in the realm of Earth the variety of things to learn is ridiculous. Some people devote their entire lives to one subject, say a specific species of animal. And still don't learn everything.
And if you're into evolution, then stuff will evolve into new things.
Age. That’s all that stops you. Age will take you to a point where the body will not function, and the mind starts playing tricks. 80 years old sounds terrifying!!No thanks. Only the good die young🌸🕊️💜
43:47 I often bring up points like this with my mom, and all she does is laugh in my face. It’s so refreshing to know someone else thinks of it the same way.
Anyone else notice that the song sounds like a Disney song?
I finally remembered to say THANK YOU for the ADORABLE APPLAUDING dancing kitten in the beginning of the program. Soooo cute.🐈
I lost the try not to cringe challenge. The song did me in, it was just so horrible. The lyrics were hurting my brain 😭 31:30 was the time I lasted to
Don’t torture yourself and skip through it..otherwise it’s like self harming 😳
Thanks for the great video.
Found this channel this morning and been binging it ever since keep it up
Ngl, the song was kind of a banger. If only it wasn't a creepy cult song, lol.
This was the worst song to date my guy ☠️
In certain situations I can see how Faith does bring a lot of comfort and peace. We should be thankful that we don't have those situations and we can use our independent thinking without cataclysmic anxiety when those tough situations come around.
I wonder if there are those who participated in propaganda films or sang songs but later left the cult? What do they think now about their contribution to propaganda? Do you know any of them?
"You can keep your hope, because I'd rather keep it real" GAH DAMN, bro got bars
39:30 Very much so a hard thing 💔 well put together.
The doodoo sound at the end😂
I love you Panda, but because of you I'm going to be seeing this damn song I'll fucking night. I'm a little bit angry. 😉 Lol
It's clearly brainwashing. The song is horrible and so catchy. It serves it's purpose. This whole cult is cringe asf!
Thanks, Panda. You're a real one 👊
I recommend learning about the terms high support needs and low support needs. It's a bad idea to blanket say that autistic people can't make such a complex decision. It depends on the person. The bigger issue I see is that neurodivergent children of JWs are already in a situation where inability to conform is heavily punished, and they are kept away from people who could intervene.
The issue with saying that autistic people automatically can't make decisions for themselves is that it adds to the culture of conservatorship. For instance, transphobic people argue that trans people are autistic, and that autistic people can't understand their own genders or sexuality.
The parallels between JW and IngSoc are uncanny. The only reason JW is dying is because they can't eliminate members smart enough to leave or harm the cult in any other way.
I will say that there’s a misconception about people with Down syndrome. They aren’t the same as people who have autism and often times are perfectly functional mentally. It’s more a physical “abnormality”
A lot of people treat those with Down syndrome as mentally handicapped and so they behave exactly that way. But I get your point. And I feel heavily that Witnesses are the very people who handicap their children with DS
Doesn't down syndrome often make a person a slower learner?
Great job! Thank you 😊
31:15
I used to says that it's like if your brain has bitten a lemon. So when I tell to JW that their book don't have any grip on me as it's a ficitionnal book, they become agressive and pushy. Just like if their brains have bitten on a lemon.
Is it me or does the singer sound very much like Idina Menzel? I imagine WT does this on purpose, to let kids associate Elsa/Frozen with this
its so sad...
One thing i (as a PIMO) always ask myself is:
Why do they continue building if its all gonna be destroyed in Armageddon? 🤨🤨🤨
Never stop your great activism and most importantly please never stop exposing them everyone deserves to know the crude reality about jehovahs witnesses so that they won't fall by jehovahs witnesses tricks