I really love how these Blueprints are implemented. The fact that you can see them in the file explorer and books are directories is nice. I like to handle raw data it makes organization and backing up so much easier. And how they manage the editing of blueprints is awesome. In factorio it can be frustrating if you forgot just one thing. Then you have to do it all over again including the setup of icons, renaming etc. This makes the editing/creating of a project like your "master class" or "base in a book" series so much more difficult.
This is the result of struggling 4 hours on stream and probably another 4-6 hours to condense the topic as good as you do - thanks for taking the efford and sparing us the bigger gotchas.
I think a 'orbital collector'-style miner would be great. A floating miner with a big mining radius (enough to cover most veins) that also doubled as an interstellar logistics station. Imagine just stamping down a floating miner on top of a vein and being done with it.
There is a mod that adds a planetary miner and it works the same way the collectors on gas giants work. I think what you suggested would be better but until it exists that is the next best thing
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Man, this comment aged perfectly. You basically nailed what they ended up doing with this. I'm actually a little in awe.
This would be great! It'd also be nice to have the option to place a blueprint despite conflicts with the scenery, just skipping those parts of the blueprints
Part of me says "yes, finally! Nilaus efficiency and effectiveness neatly in a copy paste format." Other part of me will miss my own trial and error spaghetti building total mess of a toolshed.
I watched you struggle with this on stream. I would have given up long before you did. Great job with the magic miners. I never would have though that would work.
This helps out a lot, thank you! The tropics limitation is something that I'm trying to wrap my head around. Like the starter planet has water in random spots, so build around them instead of laying foundation down. I guess I have to start making those foundations.
System is very reminiscent of Factorio's blueprints. Not that that's bad. It worked wonderfully, so I am happy the DSP devs didnt try to reinvent the wheel when there's a perfectly functional system already there to replicate (And which most of your player base probably knows personally already)
Thanks, great tutorial. That miner blueprint is fantastic! You have missed the option of actually putting blueprints into different folders. It's not intuitive. You can't drag and drop them into folders, or rename folders in game. If you want to move blueprint to a folder (optionally creating the folder if it doesn't already exist) you need to rename it. As blueprint name is actually a path. So, in order to move/save a blueprint "Blueprint 1" to a folder "Folder 1", you need to write the name of the blueprint like this: "Folder 1/Blueprint 1". Saving it will be immediately visible in the blueprints menu.
So excited to finally use blueprints! Havent played in a while, but this'll be just what I need to start over again better than before... Amazing guides as always! And a DSP masterclass would be amazing!
Fractionators, energy exchangers, solar collectors all just became about 50% easier to use. I know the devs had been working on the wonky belt collisions they had, but blueprints make it almost a non-issue. Viva blueprints!
An idea for the "magic miner" (just from watching, not tested yet): Wouldn't it be better to go one step back and make a blueprint for two parallel miners with belts+power poles only? Place north side, rotate, place the east, ... You have to place the logistics station and connect the corners at the end, but that's a lot more flexible regarding the actual geography.
I made a half mine blueprint with just two sides(a corner, 4 miners) and it picks up most of the ones that the big one does. It can get some on fault lines but not all
Hmm I feel like the magic miner blueprint could be optimized somehow, maybe bury all resources, then unbury a specific amount and have the miners be super focused around that spot.
I had a weird one happen. Applied the polar make everything blueprint and tried to put warpers into a tower to gather rare from another system for item production. They just vanished. No ship launched or anything. Checking if it was a 1 off error, i did it again w/ a really low amount, but same thing happened. When i deconstructed the tower I did not get the warpers back. Reconstructing tower and trying again, it did not cause the warpers to vanish. NOTE: This is not the 'error' I've read about that happens when people put warpers into one of the 5 slots and haven't unlocked logistic warp yet.
I would suggest making some blueprints for the more basic things, like the start of the game jumpstart, or something more tedious like red science. The things that new players might struggle with, because those are going to be less common than the massive endgame-ish blueprint designs. I found this game by watching you and I think if others do then they'll be happy to have someone who builds so well making and sharing those things to help.
would be great if one could just make a universal smelter blueprint and set the recipe inside the blueprint menu BEFORE placing it so you don't need half a dozen blueprints for basically the same layout
Blueprinted ILHs remember their Demand/Supply settings? That's just filth that is. Pure utility pr0n! Meanwhile, in CentreBrain: "We have received a message from Icarus. It reads: 'Can't build Dyson sphere. Too busy playing with blueprints. These things are so cool!' How do you want us to proceed?"
Yess master class! I'm hooked on this game! Watching your videos and playing on my own. Have a cool start where you start red science in about 2 hours :). Faster movement and construction drones super quick! Then go into "your" starter hub (which is great).. yellow takes a bit longer lol.. And blueprints! About to start another playthrough! Thanks for all the videos! Look forward to more
This is indeed amazing. Also worth noting that even if you cover some veins you can still uncover them later if you decide to strip mine a planet. And as you have said - even tapping into half of ores with easy blueprints is already great improvement. Compared against doing everything manually.
I look forward to see your blueprints! I've waited with watching your Dyson Sphere content as I wanted to play some of the game myself first (but before that I needed to get a new computer first as my old one could not run DSP). Your magic miner blueprint looks amazing, that would help so much! I can't try out blueprints yet for myself until 2 weeks from now as I'm away from home, but I look forward to have a play around with blueprints!
So exciting, I put off buying while waiting for this. Watching how you had rebuild everything(even if they made it slightly better with drag building) every time you scaled up just convinced me that the game wasn't ready for me to play yet.
Haha. Yeah, it took me nine minutes to find/figure out double click to select an existing blueprint. Derp. I am wondering how to delete blueprint books and if it is possible to alter the order blueprints appear in... ?
Awesome video, I'm super excited to be using blueprints finally. One thing I've noticed, don't use demand for local AND demand remotely on the same interplanetary logistics station, especially if you need to actually get it locally (say for hydrogen while making graphene or whatever it is from fireice) because it seems to prefer getting it remotely since it's getting 1000 per trip rather than 100. you'll get clogged up locally. so what I've done is only demand locally and use specific stations for demanding remotely that supply locally if I need more than what I'm able to provide otherwise.
When the demand is 10000 and it drops to 9900 it will send out a Drone to fill it up. Only if the Drones cannot keep up and it drops below 9000 will it send out a Vessel to pick it up remotely. Demanding both is a great way to prioritise Local over Remote
Wait, why's your solar sail life so high? Mine still reads 5400s at max research level. My game is fully updated and I know they extended solar sail life 2 months ago, do I need to start a new game for that to take effect?
Was kinda hoping for this be some kind of "planning mode" where you would just be able to place whatever building there is in game as a "blueprint" and later fill these up when you got the materials...as far as I understand it this isn't really possible with the current system is it?
You could make one or 2 more magic miner blueprints with different gaps, maybe even one where they are arranged circular or oval even, seeing that most nodes aren't circular anyways, you might have more success without having to manually bury nodes. With time you should be able to see from the size and shape of the node itself which one of those miner blueprints will work on it rather than trying to place the simple square one down and fiddle with it.
there is just one quality of live improvement that could be added to blueprint system: The option to design blueprints without the need of build them first. Anyway blueprints are very nice to save you time after you´ve played the game at least once.
17:27 I would like you filled the Science resorce lines aroud the planet with only 1 resource every 4 steps so we can see them rotating around the planet. Just for science, you know.... Splitters could help.
i wonder if it would be quicker to bury the ore vein first except maybe the centre node and then place the magic miner plan, then raise the buried nodes after you've placed the miners?
I was trying to learn this on my own but I can't figure out how to use blueprint books and it feels really confusing so I'm hoping this clears things up
Too bad the miner blueprint is almost unusable at this point. Most of the time at least one miner can't be placed because it's either on an ore node or it isn't in range of any ores. Bummer.
I haven't tried myself yet but I notice you're rotating twice then setting up opposite of the yellow line. If you don't rotate first, can you use the yellow line directly? Thanks for the content. I felt your pain when you realized you built your templates facing south.
Nice tips. You cover the whole thing in 30 mins. It's a great job indeed. Just one think you did not mention. You can click and drag the blueprint to plop multiple time the same blueprint, and use the TAB to increas the space between each of them. In the same way as the other buildings like assemblers.
it's worth noting that blueprints are saved in user documents, not steam apps, for people trying to download and install blueprints (took me longer than i would like to admit to figure out). ty so very much for the blueprints Nilaus
Jody call time. "We love it! We love it! We want more of it!" Started a new game a little while ago and got an initial setup based on your jump-start base. I have 2 simple blueprints for Planetary Logistics Stations with Smelting 1-1 and Smelting 2-1 that are from your DSP tutorial. Since it so early in the game each of the 4 lines has only 6 Arc Smelters. I can start rebuilding all the other lines to make things easier. Thanks for your videos.
Hi Nilaus! I was amazed by the time frame you released this video. Blueprints announced and BAAM, you release a great tutorial about it! For sure, a masterclass series, as you did for Factorio would be awesome. Again, thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge, tips and priceless advices!
imagine if blueprints could also have concrete saved with bury ability saved also so you could just use magic miner blue print that auto lowers any nodes that are blocking the miners....
So glad you got the polar blueprint working, I only caught the beginning of yesterday's stream and I was worried the practical use case was going to be limited to production lines. I do wish that the entire belt run counted as one entity, at least for the early research, 60 entities just isn't enough to really do much of anything.
Your miner setup inspired me to do the same including a half setup to use near tropic lines that I can quickly put down and add one or two miner on the other side of tropic line should I choose.
When i hit ctrl c, it goes into blueprint mode but then the planet starts to spin in random directions by itself rendering it unusable. Is there a setting that needs to be changed or is it a bug???
I've been so looking forward to this and a master class would be awesome when you can, thanks for the content.
Agreed - time for a master class!
I really love how these Blueprints are implemented. The fact that you can see them in the file explorer and books are directories is nice. I like to handle raw data it makes organization and backing up so much easier.
And how they manage the editing of blueprints is awesome. In factorio it can be frustrating if you forgot just one thing. Then you have to do it all over again including the setup of icons, renaming etc. This makes the editing/creating of a project like your "master class" or "base in a book" series so much more difficult.
This is the result of struggling 4 hours on stream and probably another 4-6 hours to condense the topic as good as you do - thanks for taking the efford and sparing us the bigger gotchas.
I think a 'orbital collector'-style miner would be great. A floating miner with a big mining radius (enough to cover most veins) that also doubled as an interstellar logistics station. Imagine just stamping down a floating miner on top of a vein and being done with it.
There is a mod that adds a planetary miner and it works the same way the collectors on gas giants work. I think what you suggested would be better but until it exists that is the next best thing
Man, this comment aged perfectly. You basically nailed what they ended up doing with this. I'm actually a little in awe.
Heh your wish was granted my good sir
I'd like an option on blueprint stamp down to automatically do foundation
This would be great! It'd also be nice to have the option to place a blueprint despite conflicts with the scenery, just skipping those parts of the blueprints
there's a mod for that :)
Part of me says "yes, finally! Nilaus efficiency and effectiveness neatly in a copy paste format."
Other part of me will miss my own trial and error spaghetti building total mess of a toolshed.
there is never a complete loss of spaghetti-builds!
There's always the early game.
Man, I'm really glad I started playing *after* they added the photon miner, easier to place and planetary logistics (no drones, but still) built in!
I watched you struggle with this on stream. I would have given up long before you did. Great job with the magic miners. I never would have though that would work.
I've been waiting for news of blueprints in DSP... now I can finally get this game. :)
This helps out a lot, thank you! The tropics limitation is something that I'm trying to wrap my head around. Like the starter planet has water in random spots, so build around them instead of laying foundation down. I guess I have to start making those foundations.
Like old school Christmas lights - one bulb, goes out, they all go out. One facility can't be built, they all can't be built.
so my weekend is basicli done. The Sphere must grow
damn that was a fast delivery on blueprints, considering they were released yesterday :D
System is very reminiscent of Factorio's blueprints.
Not that that's bad. It worked wonderfully, so I am happy the DSP devs didnt try to reinvent the wheel when there's a perfectly functional system already there to replicate (And which most of your player base probably knows personally already)
Thanks, great tutorial. That miner blueprint is fantastic!
You have missed the option of actually putting blueprints into different folders. It's not intuitive. You can't drag and drop them into folders, or rename folders in game. If you want to move blueprint to a folder (optionally creating the folder if it doesn't already exist) you need to rename it. As blueprint name is actually a path. So, in order to move/save a blueprint "Blueprint 1" to a folder "Folder 1", you need to write the name of the blueprint like this: "Folder 1/Blueprint 1". Saving it will be immediately visible in the blueprints menu.
excellent tip, thanks
Just use your file system, the books are just directories. Much easier than manually typing in all the book names
@@skillfulfighter23 I disagree. IMO alt-tabbing and searching for the games directory is a nuissance.
12:57 What kind of black magic did you perform here?!?!
If they would just add foundations to a blueprint, that would solve all the issues with global placements (assuming you have enough piles).
This is still early access, so I suspect that's a future feature.
So excited to finally use blueprints! Havent played in a while, but this'll be just what I need to start over again better than before... Amazing guides as always! And a DSP masterclass would be amazing!
Nilaus, I always setup my late game mining operations with large storage buffers. I actually really enjoy setting them up for maximum efficiency.
Ohh yeah! blueprints, I love them, I love you even more for explaining them to me
Oh, now this video is a godsend.
And yes, please give us a master class on DSP
Masterclass: YES! That would be awesome!
Thanks for the blueprint video Nilaus!
Excellent crash course... my sanity thanks you
Thanks for the miner blueprint. That's *really* helpful.
This will make fractionators so easy to do… but sadly i already have an entire planet covered already.
Fractionators, energy exchangers, solar collectors all just became about 50% easier to use. I know the devs had been working on the wonky belt collisions they had, but blueprints make it almost a non-issue. Viva blueprints!
An idea for the "magic miner" (just from watching, not tested yet): Wouldn't it be better to go one step back and make a blueprint for two parallel miners with belts+power poles only? Place north side, rotate, place the east, ... You have to place the logistics station and connect the corners at the end, but that's a lot more flexible regarding the actual geography.
Yes, the magic miner here is tricky to use; just one miner not touching ore and it will not build. Going for 2 N and 2 S might help that
I made a half mine blueprint with just two sides(a corner, 4 miners) and it picks up most of the ones that the big one does. It can get some on fault lines but not all
@@coleblooded42 ditto. I have the ILS and North/West miners. A second blueprint for East/South. Then just connect belts to the ILS from there.
Please make a MasterClass serie :)
Hmm I feel like the magic miner blueprint could be optimized somehow, maybe bury all resources, then unbury a specific amount and have the miners be super focused around that spot.
I had a weird one happen. Applied the polar make everything blueprint and tried to put warpers into a tower to gather rare from another system for item production. They just vanished. No ship launched or anything. Checking if it was a 1 off error, i did it again w/ a really low amount, but same thing happened. When i deconstructed the tower I did not get the warpers back. Reconstructing tower and trying again, it did not cause the warpers to vanish.
NOTE: This is not the 'error' I've read about that happens when people put warpers into one of the 5 slots and haven't unlocked logistic warp yet.
I would suggest making some blueprints for the more basic things, like the start of the game jumpstart, or something more tedious like red science. The things that new players might struggle with, because those are going to be less common than the massive endgame-ish blueprint designs. I found this game by watching you and I think if others do then they'll be happy to have someone who builds so well making and sharing those things to help.
I believe it's time for a "Base in a book"
It uses text files and subfolders! Time for source control like git.
"We expect it to be fixed, eventually"
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3 years ago
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Looking forward to the "Base in a Book" by Nilaus for Dyson Sphere Program!
+1 vote for a Master Class!
I would love a Masterclass Series!
Very helpful. Thank you!
JUst downloaded the patch. And Nilaus is already here to teach me the works! Thanks man!
would be great if one could just make a universal smelter blueprint and set the recipe inside the blueprint menu BEFORE placing it so you don't need half a dozen blueprints for basically the same layout
different recipes have different ratios, so even if you could then it woudn't be universal. I will provide the next best thing "soon" ;)
@@Nilaus okay then for those smelting items that share the same ratio like iron/copper/stone
already looking forward to it, thanks! :)
Make more videos on your blueprints please
Blueprinted ILHs remember their Demand/Supply settings? That's just filth that is. Pure utility pr0n!
Meanwhile, in CentreBrain: "We have received a message from Icarus. It reads: 'Can't build Dyson sphere. Too busy playing with blueprints. These things are so cool!' How do you want us to proceed?"
I'm going to make this magic miner bp in 3 flafors: small, medium and large! ;P
You sir, are a saint.
Yess master class! I'm hooked on this game!
Watching your videos and playing on my own. Have a cool start where you start red science in about 2 hours :). Faster movement and construction drones super quick! Then go into "your" starter hub (which is great).. yellow takes a bit longer lol.. And blueprints! About to start another playthrough! Thanks for all the videos! Look forward to more
This is indeed amazing. Also worth noting that even if you cover some veins you can still uncover them later if you decide to strip mine a planet. And as you have said - even tapping into half of ores with easy blueprints is already great improvement. Compared against doing everything manually.
Dyson Sphere Program: Master Class, when????
Thank you for saving me hours of frustration!
You are the best, Nilaus! Thank you SO MUCH for your efforts and very detailed guide about blueprints! I like what you do! Thank you!
I look forward to see your blueprints! I've waited with watching your Dyson Sphere content as I wanted to play some of the game myself first (but before that I needed to get a new computer first as my old one could not run DSP). Your magic miner blueprint looks amazing, that would help so much! I can't try out blueprints yet for myself until 2 weeks from now as I'm away from home, but I look forward to have a play around with blueprints!
Thanks so much! I was looking for the “use blueprint” button for so long!
So exciting, I put off buying while waiting for this.
Watching how you had rebuild everything(even if they made it slightly better with drag building) every time you scaled up just convinced me that the game wasn't ready for me to play yet.
Thanks for this, informative and straight forward as always
Is there a mirror mode ? Or just rotating.
Haha. Yeah, it took me nine minutes to find/figure out double click to select an existing blueprint. Derp. I am wondering how to delete blueprint books and if it is possible to alter the order blueprints appear in... ?
They are stored in your file system, just click the show in explorer button and modify them all you want
Research! I was reading everything I could find to figure out why the blueprints button was grayed out.
I thought i was the only one. Thank you. And thank you Mr. Nilaus.
Awesome video, I'm super excited to be using blueprints finally. One thing I've noticed, don't use demand for local AND demand remotely on the same interplanetary logistics station, especially if you need to actually get it locally (say for hydrogen while making graphene or whatever it is from fireice) because it seems to prefer getting it remotely since it's getting 1000 per trip rather than 100. you'll get clogged up locally. so what I've done is only demand locally and use specific stations for demanding remotely that supply locally if I need more than what I'm able to provide otherwise.
When the demand is 10000 and it drops to 9900 it will send out a Drone to fill it up. Only if the Drones cannot keep up and it drops below 9000 will it send out a Vessel to pick it up remotely.
Demanding both is a great way to prioritise Local over Remote
Was fun watching the mining setup on the stream yesterday 🙂👊
I would really appreciate a masterclass for belt and inserter speeds and how they work together. Your content is awesome and very well structured!
outstanding as always!
I rolled back DSP to .06 because newer broke blueprints. I can't wait to play with this.
Wait, why's your solar sail life so high? Mine still reads 5400s at max research level. My game is fully updated and I know they extended solar sail life 2 months ago, do I need to start a new game for that to take effect?
Was kinda hoping for this be some kind of "planning mode" where you would just be able to place whatever building there is in game as a "blueprint" and later fill these up when you got the materials...as far as I understand it this isn't really possible with the current system is it?
You could make one or 2 more magic miner blueprints with different gaps, maybe even one where they are arranged circular or oval even, seeing that most nodes aren't circular anyways, you might have more success without having to manually bury nodes. With time you should be able to see from the size and shape of the node itself which one of those miner blueprints will work on it rather than trying to place the simple square one down and fiddle with it.
Does anyone know what encryption is used for the Blueprints? It looked like Base64, but decoding it as such just gives a bunch of useless gibberish.
there is just one quality of live improvement that could be added to blueprint system: The option to design blueprints without the need of build them first. Anyway blueprints are very nice to save you time after you´ve played the game at least once.
Nice! As always grade A tutorial!
Answers all of my questions i had from trying it out yesterday
Needs to be an option for me to just fly to a planet and have logistics drones foundation everything. Bam!
17:27 I would like you filled the Science resorce lines aroud the planet with only 1 resource every 4 steps so we can see them rotating around the planet. Just for science, you know.... Splitters could help.
i wonder if it would be quicker to bury the ore vein first except maybe the centre node and then place the magic miner plan, then raise the buried nodes after you've placed the miners?
I was trying to learn this on my own but I can't figure out how to use blueprint books and it feels really confusing so I'm hoping this clears things up
Pretty stupid that you can't put down a blueprint if one part vant be placed. Anyone know if thats on developer roadmap?
Oh, you double click. Perhaps now I can actually use saved blueprints. Thank you.
Awesome video! Is there no blueprint for placing Concrete? Like include it in Solar panel setup or Polar Hub.
Unfortunately not yet
I feel so attacked right now. Ive built so many rows of fabricators along the meridian.. ;)
Update, I took his box design and cut it i half making just a L shape. Less tricky to paste!
Too bad the miner blueprint is almost unusable at this point. Most of the time at least one miner can't be placed because it's either on an ore node or it isn't in range of any ores. Bummer.
Where to paste the blueprint that you share in GoogleDrive? Can't find the folder ;/
YOU CAN PULL OUT OF LOGISTIC STATIONS IN THE MAP VIEW?!
Amazing.
Now we also know why it took so long. They adjust accoring to latitude!
That is not trivial. Glad that they did it.
Just saw your world size blueprint for your power grid. Mind BLOW.
I haven't tried myself yet but I notice you're rotating twice then setting up opposite of the yellow line. If you don't rotate first, can you use the yellow line directly? Thanks for the content. I felt your pain when you realized you built your templates facing south.
trying to figure out how to rotate the blueprint, you can do it obviously but when i hit R or left or right arrow nothing happens
Now all they need to do is add one more expensive upgrade that allows you to blue print concrete.
Nice tips. You cover the whole thing in 30 mins. It's a great job indeed.
Just one think you did not mention. You can click and drag the blueprint to plop multiple time the same blueprint, and use the TAB to increas the space between each of them. In the same way as the other buildings like assemblers.
it's worth noting that blueprints are saved in user documents, not steam apps, for people trying to download and install blueprints (took me longer than i would like to admit to figure out). ty so very much for the blueprints Nilaus
Jody call time. "We love it! We love it! We want more of it!"
Started a new game a little while ago and got an initial setup based on your jump-start base. I have 2 simple blueprints for Planetary Logistics Stations with Smelting 1-1 and Smelting 2-1 that are from your DSP tutorial. Since it so early in the game each of the 4 lines has only 6 Arc Smelters. I can start rebuilding all the other lines to make things easier. Thanks for your videos.
Hi Nilaus! I was amazed by the time frame you released this video. Blueprints announced and BAAM, you release a great tutorial about it!
For sure, a masterclass series, as you did for Factorio would be awesome. Again, thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge, tips and priceless advices!
imagine if blueprints could also have concrete saved with bury ability saved also so you could just use magic miner blue print that auto lowers any nodes that are blocking the miners....
how do you rotate a blueprint?! i've been trying to figure that out! :O
So glad you got the polar blueprint working, I only caught the beginning of yesterday's stream and I was worried the practical use case was going to be limited to production lines.
I do wish that the entire belt run counted as one entity, at least for the early research, 60 entities just isn't enough to really do much of anything.
I have no idea how to rename the things. This should help hopefully
Spherical geometry is weird.
It's nice that it "places" the blueprint so you can see where things are in the way, but a force-place would be better.
Anyone else feel like vein utilisation is way too powerful?
What you're feeling is bliss
Mk2 and Mk3 miners, or some other style like miner on top of ore. That would make it so much more enjoyable to set up mining outposts.
Glad your doing a vid on blueprints cause Ive heard people wanting them, personally never played factorio and had no idea how they work
Yes! Totally using the magic miner setup. Perfect timing with me reaching late game. Thank you! Master class would be soooo awesome!
Your miner setup inspired me to do the same including a half setup to use near tropic lines that I can quickly put down and add one or two miner on the other side of tropic line should I choose.
When i hit ctrl c, it goes into blueprint mode but then the planet starts to spin in random directions by itself rendering it unusable. Is there a setting that needs to be changed or is it a bug???
do you have a Hotus/joystick/xbox controller attached? they can cause that effect
Well all one needs to do for the magic miner setup is to manually adjust a couple of miners after placing and it's still way faster than self placing.