Could Jesus be the Messiah ben Joseph?

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  • @d_Gnome
    @d_Gnome 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    They didnt know that Jesus would the the sacrificial lamb AND the conquering king!

  • @JERRYSHONDA
    @JERRYSHONDA 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    FOR THIS REASON I WAS BORN AND FOR THIS CAUSE I CAME INTO THE WORLD, TO TESTIFY TO THE TRUTH. EVERY ONE WHO BELONGS TO THE TRUTH, HEARS MY VOICE. JESUS

  • @kylewhitten3961
    @kylewhitten3961 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    “Come now, let us kill him…”
    ‭‭- Genesis‬ ‭37‬:‭20‬ ‭ESV‬‬
    “But those tenants said to one another, ‘This is the heir. Come, let us kill him...”
    ‭‭- Mark‬ ‭12‬:‭7‬ ‭ESV‬‬

    • @keziasphiri9058
      @keziasphiri9058 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Beautiful Beautiful Beautiful JESUS is LORD 🙏 AMEN ❤️

  • @alexandrupasca4186
    @alexandrupasca4186 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I find no mistakes in any of His teachings,and yes,i would trust my life in His hands

  • @TheTorahGuide
    @TheTorahGuide  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Edit: typo at 4:00 , the verse reference is Deuteronomy 33:16-17, not Deuteronomy13:16-17

    • @dansaber4427
      @dansaber4427 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Parables are for the lost so they'll be confused. People with a relationship with God don't have their head in a book. They can actually hear his voice.

  • @ernee100
    @ernee100 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I can not wait until the tribes of Israel come before their Messiah for the second time like they came before Joseph. Surprise! HE'S the ruler!

    • @Penguinzero1
      @Penguinzero1 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Jesus is king

    • @abel2933
      @abel2933 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Same story again they thought Joseph was ended. And came back in glory.
      You thought you ended him by crucifixion . Second time He will be back in glory for Judgement.
      This is Marvelous.

    • @notoriousprocrastorious
      @notoriousprocrastorious 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Idol worshippers will be humbled

    • @abel2933
      @abel2933 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@notoriousprocrastorious so Abraham was worshipping... in the old testament . If you are consistent with your logic.
      "20 And David said to all the congregation, Now bless the LORD your God. And all the congregation blessed the LORD God of their fathers, and bowed down their heads, and worshipped the LORD, and the king."
      (1Chronicles 29:20)
      ignorance is one thing Arrogance is another.

    • @Penguinzero1
      @Penguinzero1 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @ Jesus is lord. Jesus is God

  • @cnickila
    @cnickila 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Really good stuff, I like that you asked the questions at the end. Nice to end on reflection. God bless!

    • @TheTorahGuide
      @TheTorahGuide  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s nice of you, I appreciate the specific feedback, that’s helpful. Thank you! Grace and shalom

  • @fasted8468
    @fasted8468 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is there a place i can read the talmud online? I can read faster than most people talkand i wnt to understand judaism

    • @TheTorahGuide
      @TheTorahGuide  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      One digital resource is a website (and app) called Sefaria

  • @kenmcclellan
    @kenmcclellan 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Have you considered John the Baptist as the Moshiach ben Josef? Because he fits the prophecy of Daniel. You might explore the Mandaean Book of John.

  • @itsmeme1430
    @itsmeme1430 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    There's 7000 words in old Hebrew & 200k in English. The bible as a new message for every generation

  • @Yanky-w4z
    @Yanky-w4z 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do you believe in the revelation at Sinai?

  • @jerryhogeweide5288
    @jerryhogeweide5288 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    In Isa 53 and other places, you see two separate and distinct lives. One dies, but another lives a long life and sees his own offspring. The LXX preserves the saying that ‘after he suffers, he sees the light’ and then makes his life an offering for sin. The Yom Kipper sacrifice also shows the two distinct lives.
    Isa 53 isn’t just revealing Jesus’s first life, but also when he returns. Jesus did not fulfill it all and like that time where he read only half of the passage in Isa stopping before the end, he knew he would have to return. He was also reading Daniel and knew he was the ‘prince who is to come’, later identified in Daniel as Michael.
    It pleased god to bring him back and cause him to suffer again just as it’s written, only this time over a long life and not just a weekend. You can see this in Rev where the lamb is counted worthy to open the seals after suffering ‘since the foundation’. Because the rabbis did not follow the explicit instructions regarding the Yom Kipper scapegoat, leading it over a cliff instead of handing it over to the caretaker. So their temple was destroyed and their eyes blinded to the truth ever since. And just as the Yom Kipper demonstrated, Jesus has been their national scapegoat ever since. Many will ‘look upon him and mourn for that first born son’ on the day he is revealed and repent for their arrogance in ascribing Isa 53 to the nation.

  • @TedBates-b8u
    @TedBates-b8u วันที่ผ่านมา

    That was expressed very well and clearly. Thank you.

    • @TheTorahGuide
      @TheTorahGuide  วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’m glad you thought so, you’re very welcome!

  • @MAT-244
    @MAT-244 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    AMEN. I fully trust Yeshua HaMoshiach as my LORD, KING, SAVIOR, REDEEMER, AND GOD ALMIGHTY.

  • @Otessa-j4u
    @Otessa-j4u 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Look forward to the return of Yeshua HaMashiach
    Amen and Amen

    • @willscheck8072
      @willscheck8072 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      the stands at the door and knocks , open to him and eat his flesh and drink his blood.

  • @kennethgreifer5123
    @kennethgreifer5123 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    When someone says Genesis 3 is about the Messiah, I know they interpret the Bible in a very non-literal way. To them, everything is about the Messiah. Even Dr. Michael Brown says there is no proof Genesis 3 is about the Messiah.

    • @BetterDaysIndustries
      @BetterDaysIndustries 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      It literally says that her seed will crush/bruise the serpent's head? The serpent is clearly Satan as expressed in revelation. Who else has inflicted harm on Satan to his head. What would that even look like he's a spiritual being not here on the Earth. It would have to be a spiritual victory... ie Jesus's death and ressurection.
      I don't get it, what else could Genesis 3 be talking about?

    • @kennethgreifer5123
      @kennethgreifer5123 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@BetterDaysIndustries In Genesis 3, the snake was a snake who obviously could talk and had legs at the time. Why would all snakes be cursed for what a fake snake did and why would it lose it's legs, if it was a spiritual being? The seed was her descendants who in the future would not like snakes because they would bite human beings on their lower legs and people would hit them on their heads. It means humans and snakes would not like each other.

    • @BetterDaysIndustries
      @BetterDaysIndustries 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @kennethgreifer5123 that makes no sense you're talking about God punishing animals. Eden was a place where heaven and earth met. There was a flaming sword guarding it. This place was clearly supernatural. It's thought among some circles that angel can take the form of serpents with wings and that that's what a seraphim is.

    • @kennethgreifer5123
      @kennethgreifer5123 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@BetterDaysIndustries I thought that God made all of the serpents crawl on the ground eating dust in Genesis 3, but you are saying that the serpent was a spiritual one and not the actual animal. In Genesis 3:1, it says the serpent was more subtle than the other beasts of the field.
      You are saying that there were no actual animals in the garden of Eden. The Bible doesn't seem to mention that the serpent was not a real animal and it does seem to imply it was an actual animal and as a punishment, it lost it's legs. If it didn't have legs in the garden of Eden, why does it say it's punishment was to crawl on the ground and eat dust? If it didn't have legs to begin with, how could that be a punishment? It would have been a continuation of it's normal state.

    • @Piddley65
      @Piddley65 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Is the head of the serpent crushed?..last time we checked the devil is doing quite well in the world. Why are people still fasting and praying? Because the devil is still successful...

  • @BoldFollower
    @BoldFollower 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    good, well researched content bro!

    • @Rajul_Jamil
      @Rajul_Jamil 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Judaism doesn't teach that there will be an apostate Jew come to be the Mashiach, Jesus didn't do even the first thing that would make Jews think he was the Mashiach and for that reason Jews never thought he could have been. According to Jewish tradition, before Mashiach ben David will come Mashiach ben Yosef, who symbolizes the heroism of the people of Israel and will die in battle. What battle did Jesus fight in??

    • @BoldFollower
      @BoldFollower 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ Scriptures teach the eyes of many will be blinded. Humble yourself and He will show you the truth! Jesus loves you!

    • @Rajul_Jamil
      @Rajul_Jamil 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@BoldFollower Sorry but Jews see your Jesus charecter as a pagan mythological god and has nothing to do with Judaism but the opposite. You can believe as you wish but you should look to mythology for your answers about Jesus.

    • @BoldFollower
      @BoldFollower 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ this is not true. Many Jews recognized Jesus for who He truly is. Accepting Jesus meant suffering, leaving their families or even death. The life of a Christ follower came with sometimes severe consequences. If Jesus was truly who He says He is, would you be willing to give up your family? Money? Job? Desires? Life? I understand your hesitation. It’s hard to truly trust God for who He is. But it’s totally worth it.

    • @Rajul_Jamil
      @Rajul_Jamil 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@BoldFollower Many Jews ...LOL... Any Jew that follows Judaism and has learned the prophesy laughs at the idea that a pagan religion would eliminate Judaism.
      Before the time of the mashiach, there shall be war and suffering (Ezekiel 38:16)
      The mashiach will bring about the political and spiritual redemption of the Jewish people by bringing us back to Israel and restoring Jerusalem (Isaiah 11:11-12; Jeremiah 23:8; 30:3; Hosea 3:4-5). He will establish a government in Israel that will be the center of all world government, both for Jews and gentiles (Isaiah 2:2-4; 11:10; 42:1). He will rebuild the Temple and re-establish its worship (Jeremiah 33:18). He will restore the religious court system of Israel and establish Jewish law as the law of the land (Jeremiah 33:15).
      Does your Jesus sound like he did all these things we know the Mashiach will do??? NO !!

  • @yoseffeigenbaum9639
    @yoseffeigenbaum9639 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I recently did a Hebrew language video on this very subject. The Messiah son of Joseph is not Biblical and I find it interesting that you rely on Rabbinical teaching when it suits you and reject it when it doesn't.
    The starting point for all of this should be a) was Jesus' father from one of the Joseph tribes, ie. Ephraim or Menasha? The answer is clearly no and no such claim is made in the NT. The entire emphasis in the NT is that Jesus was from David throughSolomon, which is also not the case if you believe the NT.
    So before going off on an eisegetical tangent Jesus didn't have the pedigree to be either messiah.
    Of course there is more but is it really necessary?

  • @Youngster12_
    @Youngster12_ 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The books do show a Messiah dying a suffering, Messiah
    Ben Joseph the lamb
    Messiah Ben David is his own seed the last one! The lion
    Same lineage

    • @Madolite
      @Madolite 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The problem is that "seed" can mean "literal biological seed" but also "that which was caused, and grows".
      So lineage isn't necessarily about biological lineage. It can also be able "the lineage of action (i.e., causality)".

    • @stinkeye460
      @stinkeye460 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There is nothing in the Hebrew Bible that describes the Moshiach being anything like your false prophet Jesus. jewsforjudaism.ca/choose-life-pdf/

    • @Penguinzero1
      @Penguinzero1 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Jesus is lord

    • @Youngster12_
      @Youngster12_ 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Penguinzero1 you’re right!! so tell me and explain
      The Lord said to my Lord?
      One in flesh and one in spirit and the spirit lives forever! But if you combine both together you got yourself the beginning and he who stands in the beginning when not taste death!

  • @SDsc0rch
    @SDsc0rch 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    good teaching
    new sub
    belled

  • @rcdeal21
    @rcdeal21 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bless you 🙏🏼

  • @gregoryt8792
    @gregoryt8792 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    And why are there so many references to a second coming? Clearly there was a first.

  • @psandbergnz
    @psandbergnz 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The Hebrew Bible does not teach that the messiah will suffer and die. The speaker makes a lot of claims, but doesn't back them up.
    Moreover, there is nothing that prophesies that forgiveness of sin is based upon faith in messiah or faith in his shed blood.

    • @mangaranwow2543
      @mangaranwow2543 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Most of what happened with the first goat and its blood was out of view of the congregation, as it was used to "make atonement for the Holy Place, because of the uncleanness of the children of Israel, and because of their transgressions, for all their sins; and so he shall do for the tabernacle of meeting which remains among them in the midst of their uncleanness" (verse 16). More meaningful to the people was what happened to the second goat, “the goat of departure,” which they could watch as it carried their sins out of sight.
      One of the best-known Messianic prophecies provides an unambiguous fulfillment of the live goat's bearing of sins:
      Surely He has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows; yet we esteemed Him stricken, smitten by God, and afflicted. . . . He shall see the labor of His soul, and be satisfied. By His knowledge My righteous Servant shall justify many, for He shall bear their iniquities. Therefore I will divide Him a portion with the great, and He shall divide the spoil with the strong, because He poured out His soul unto death, and He was numbered with the transgressors, and He bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors. (Isaiah 53:4, 11-12; emphasis ours)
      Scripture also describes the Messiah's “bearing” of transgression as acceptance, forgiveness, and pardon (Job 42:8-9; Psalm 25:18; 28:9; 32:1, 5; 85:2; Micah 7:18). The Hebrew word means “to lift up,” “to carry,” and “to take away.” It is tied to forgiveness because it is as if He carries the sins out of sight. While the Bible also uses it to refer to what men do-such as “carry” (Genesis 47:30) and “forgive” (Genesis 50:17)-it is never used to refer to Satan.
      Christ's bearing of sins goes beyond paying the penalty, fitting perfectly with one of the meanings of azazel, “complete removal” (compare Psalm 103:12). In Isaiah 53:12, the bearing is linked with intercession. They are not the same thing, but the parallelism indicates that an active work occurs in carrying the sins until they are completely removed from view, figuratively “as far as the east is from the west.”
      We see the same thing in the New Testament. I Peter 2:24 says Jesus “Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree.” Not only did He bear the sins, but He did it by Himself, just as the azazel did (Leviticus 16:22). He did not share that role. The author writes in Hebrews 9:28, “Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many.” His single and singular sacrifice both cleansed the sanctuary and bore away the sins of many.

    • @strappedfatman7858
      @strappedfatman7858 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The Scapegoat!
      Matthew 27:15-26
      Jesus Barabbas, the scapegoat, is released living, and Jesus the Messiah, the immolated goat, is put to death. Scapegoat was the name given to the goat that “escaped” into the wilderness, never to return, with the blood, or sins, of the people on him. The scapegoat symbolized that through the Atonement all of Israel's sins could be forgiven, never to return.
      Barabbas (which means son of the father in Aramaic) who was guilty (burdened with sin) was released while Jesus (also the Son of the Father) who was innocent of Sin was presented by the High Priest and was sacrificed by the Romans through crucifixion.
      Matthew 27:16 At that time they had a well-known prisoner whose name was Jesus Barabbas. 17 So when the crowd had gathered, Pilate asked them, “Which one do you want me to release to you: Jesus Barabbas, or Jesus who is called the Messiah?”
      Luke 11:49 That is why the wisdom of God also said: ‘I will send prophets and apostles to them, and they will kill and persecute some of them, 50 so that the blood of all the prophets spilled from the founding of the world may be charged against this generation, 51 from the blood of Abel down to the blood of Zech·a·riʹah, who was killed between the altar and the house.’ Yes, I tell you, it will be charged against this generation.

    • @sarafocarino5926
      @sarafocarino5926 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Isiah 53. The suffering servant.

    • @psandbergnz
      @psandbergnz 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@mangaranwow2543 , Jesus was not crucified on Yom Kippur, but on Passover if you go with the synoptics (or on the day before Passover if you go with John's Gospel). Yom Kippur cannot be celebrated on any day you choose, any more than can Passover! If you read Lev. 16: 15-26, you will find nothing there to point, in any coherent way, prophetically to Jesus as an atonement or to Barabbas (as the scapegoat), and the custom claimed in Matthew about the governor's custom to release a prisoner chosen by the crowd on each Yom Kipppur celebration is not found in any historical document. In any case, to be a fulfilment of the scapegoat described in Leviticus, Barabbas' head would have to be held and confessed over, while the sins of the nation were recited over it (by the priest), in order for the "azazel" to carry away those spoken sins. Indeed, NONE of the ritual described in Lev. was carried out either literally or even metaphorically (I'm trying to be charitable to the Christian position) in the Jesus/Barabbas narrative.
      The Hebrew scriptures are not intended to be treated so promiscuously, as Christians are doing. You are running roughshod over the Hebrew scriptures and trying to force them to conform with your position.
      Not only does the Yom kippur date completely mismatch the day of Jesus' death, and none of the ritual details given in of Lev. chapter 15 are apparent in the Gospel narrative of Jesus' trial and death even metaphorically (in any recognisable manner), but Jesus is not called the "Goat of God", but the lamb of God. And only a goat could be the azazel and its associated blood sacrifice in Yom Kippur. A goat is not a lamb! If the Almighty wanted us to draw a parallel between Yom Kippur and Jesus'crucifixion, then I would at least expect Him to get the animal to match! As for Jesus being the Passover lamb, if this is the case, then Christians REMAIN in their sin, because the Passover lamb was not a sin sacrifice. It did not atone for sin.
      You wrote: "One of the best-known Messianic prophecies provides an unambiguous fulfilment of the live goat's bearing of sins:
      "Surely He has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows; yet we esteemed Him stricken, smitten by God, and afflicted. . . . He shall see the labor of His soul, and be satisfied. By His knowledge My righteous Servant shall justify many, for He shall bear their iniquities. Therefore I will divide Him a portion with the great, and He shall divide the spoil with the strong, because He poured out His soul unto death, and He was numbered with the transgressors, and He bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors. (Isaiah 53:4, 11-12)."
      But you have no evidence that the passage is messianic! Indeed, Isaiah tells us over and over again who the servant is, and the metaphor is never associated with "messiah" (with the single exception of messiah King Cyrus of Persia in Is. 45).
      Those verses you cite (which, btw, are translated from the Hebrew by Christian apologists) show that God poured out his wrath on a particular generation of Israel, who accepted their fate without complaint or accusing God. The sin of the rebellious Jews had accumulated to such an extent that God punished the nation by exile to Assyria and Babylonia to expiate the huge national debt of sin. In this way, God could redeem a faithful remnant of Jews by bringing them back to Israel from exile, so that the Jewish nation could once again grow, to fulfil God's purpose. That REMNANT (symbolised as the "servant") is personified as the scapegoat for the sins of the whole nation and of the Gentiles. This is Isaiah’s central message. There is no mention or implication there of a messiah. Individual sin is not atoned for, or removed, through the suffering of others. An individual's sin is atoned for through repentance, and God forgives freely (Is.55:7). God can punish a nation to wipe away its debt of sin.
      The servant "bears their iniquities". But that doesn't mean he removes or atones for the iniquities. If I strike you, then you bear or endure my cruelty/iniquity, but that doesn't mean you REMOVE my iniquity by your role in suffering from it. I am still accountable for my sin. You bear it (or bear the brunt of it), but the sin remains mine, unless I repent and am forgiven.
      The problem Christians have with Isaiah chapter 53 is that suffering and affliction or wounding or bruising have nothing to do with a biblical blood sacrifice. Show me where the _suffering_ of anyone can atone for another's sin! Only the _death_ of the blood sacrifice atoned, not its suffering. So if Jesus is a blood sacrifice, then his suffering served no purpose. Your concept of a blood sacrifice is pagan, not biblical. Any sacrificial animal that bore the marks of torture (such as scourging or was humiliated) would be ruled out as a blood sacrifice. SO, HOW DOES JESUS' SUFFERING OR AFFLICTION ATONE FOR SIN?
      You wrote: "Scripture also describes the Messiah's “bearing” of transgression as acceptance, forgiveness, and pardon (Job 42:8-9; Psalm 25:18; 28:9; 32:1, 5; 85:2; Micah 7:18)."
      Sorry, but none of those verses are about a messiah, and there is no Christology in them.

    • @psandbergnz
      @psandbergnz 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mangaranwow2543 , Jesus was not crucified on Yom Kippur, but on Passover if you go with the synoptics (or on the day before Passover if you go with John's Gospel). Yom Kippur cannot be celebrated on any day you choose, any more than can Passover! If you read Lev. 16: 15-26, you will find nothing there to point, in any coherent way, prophetically to Jesus as an atonement or to Barabbas (as the scapegoat), and the custom claimed in Matthew about a custom to release a prisoner chosen by the crowd on each Yom Kipppur is not found in any historical document. In any case, to be a fulfilment of the scapegoat described in Leviticus, Barabbas' head would have to be held and confessed over, while the sins of the nation were recited over it (by the priest), in order for the "azazel" to carry away those spoken sins. Indeed, NONE of the ritual description in Lev. was carried out either literally or even metaphorically (I'm trying to be charitable to the Christian position) in the Jesus/Barabbas narrative.
      The Hebrew scriptures are not intended to be treated so promiscuously, as Christians do.
      Furthermore, Jesus is not called the "Goat of God", but the lamb of God. And only a goat could be the azazel and its associated blood sacrifice in Yom Kippur. A goat is not a lamb! If the Almighty wanted us to draw a parallel between Yom Kippur and Jesus'crucifixion, then I would at least expect Him to get the animal to match! As for Jesus being the Passover lamb, if this is the case, then Christians REMAIN in their sin, because the Passover lamb was not a sin sacrifice. It did not atone for sin.
      You wrote: "One of the best-known Messianic prophecies provides an unambiguous fulfilment of the live goat's bearing of sins:
      "Surely He has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows; yet we esteemed Him stricken, smitten by God .....(Isaiah 53:4, 11-12)."
      But you have no evidence that the passage is messianic! Indeed, Isaiah tells us over and over again who the servant is, and the metaphor is never associated with "messiah" (with the single exception of messiah King Cyrus of Persia in Is. 45).
      Those verses you cite (which, btw, are translated from the Hebrew by Christian apologists) show that God poured out his wrath on a particular generation of Israel, who accepted their fate without complaint or accusing God. The sin of the rebellious Jews had accumulated to such an extent that God punished the nation by exile to Assyria and Babylonia to expiate the huge national debt of sin. In this way, God could redeem a faithful remnant of Jews by bringing them back to Israel from exile, so that the Jewish nation could once again grow, to fulfil God's purpose. That REMNANT (symbolised as the "servant") is personified as the scapegoat for the sins of the whole nation and of the Gentiles. This is Isaiah’s central message. There is no mention or implication there of a messiah. Individual sin is not atoned for, or removed, through the suffering of others. An individual's sin is atoned for through repentance, and God forgives freely (Is.55:7). God can punish a nation to wipe away its debt of sin.
      The servant "bears their iniquities". But that doesn't mean he removes or atones for the iniquities. If I strike you, then you bear or endure my cruelty/iniquity, but that doesn't mean you REMOVE my iniquity by your role in suffering from it. I am still accountable for my sin. You bear it (or bear the brunt of it), but the sin remains mine, unless I repent and am forgiven.
      The problem Christians have with Isaiah chapter 53 is that suffering and affliction or wounding or bruising have nothing to do with a biblical blood sacrifice. Show me where the _suffering_ of anyone can atone for another's sin! Only the _death_ of the blood sacrifice atoned, not its suffering. So if Jesus is a blood sacrifice, then his suffering served no purpose. Your concept of a blood sacrifice is pagan, not biblical. Any sacrificial animal that bore the marks of torture (such as scourging or was humiliated) would be ruled out as a blood sacrifice. SO, HOW DOES JESUS' SUFFERING OR AFFLICTION ATONE FOR SIN?

  • @kunjimoncm1501
    @kunjimoncm1501 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Who did think in his generation, he is over. It is not an end. His life becomes a disabled sacrifice. Was'nt Jesus a perfect lamb?

  • @shawnk2704
    @shawnk2704 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Exodus 15:13Thou in thy mercy hast led forth the people which thou hast redeemed: thou hast guided them in thy strength unto thy holy habitation.
    14 The people shall hear, and be afraid: sorrow shall take hold on the inhabitants of Palestina

  • @madmanjim795
    @madmanjim795 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A very interesting description about the first born bull being equated with Jesus. Thanks.

    • @TheTorahGuide
      @TheTorahGuide  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You’re very welcome

    • @Rajul_Jamil
      @Rajul_Jamil 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Judaism doesn't teach that there will be an apostate Jew come to be the Mashiach, Jesus didn't do even the first thing that would make Jews think he was the Mashiach and for that reason Jews never thought he could have been. According to Jewish tradition, before Mashiach ben David will come Mashiach ben Yosef, who symbolizes the heroism of the people of Israel and will die in battle. What battle did Jesus fight in??

    • @TrustInTheShepherd
      @TrustInTheShepherd 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Rajul_Jamil
      Jesus fought Evil and died for the sin of mankind, this to save mankind from Sin. Why would God care about petty human wars, God only ever was interested in stopping Evil. God did not want his people to sin.
      Isaiah 53
      "Surely he took up our pain
      and bore our suffering,
      yet we considered him punished by God,
      stricken by him, and afflicted.
      5 But he was pierced for our transgressions,
      he was crushed for our iniquities;
      the punishment that brought us peace was on him,
      and by his wounds we are healed.
      6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
      each of us has turned to our own way;
      and the Lord has laid on him
      the iniquity of us all."
      Cannot help it if you translate this differently or do not believe in Jesus, but at the very least you should admit this is not talking about a battle of men but about a battle against Sin. You should also study if you want to believe, don't only believe what you are told but verify what you are told.
      I suggest you pray to God ask him honestly and openly to show you the truth and accept it when God shows you.
      Also Note Jesus was Jewish, had mostly Jewish followers, he came for the jews first and only after the rest of the world.

    • @BetterDaysIndustries
      @BetterDaysIndustries 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Rajul_Jamil The greatest battle. The greatest act of love is not the killing of life for the highest good but the sacrifice of life for the highest good. This is the ultimate struggle. Not only that but Jesus died a worse death than anyone ever because he took on our sins. This act was demonstable that God would rather go to death than send us to hell.
      That's holiness.
      This principle purveys all human life: If you truly love someone you make sacrifices for them. All Christians are called to make sacrifices in life. Pick up our cross daily and follow him.

    • @BetterDaysIndustries
      @BetterDaysIndustries 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Rajul_Jamil Isaiah 53: Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed? 2For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. 3He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
      That nobody would believe he was the messiah is clearly represented in Isaiah
      Zechariah 12:10 'And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.'
      Clearly they believed him to be apostate if the rejected him to the point of piercing him... Clearly demonstrates that God himself will suffer as the result of their actions within their sight. Then grieving bitterly suggests they have regret aswell as pain in mourning.
      Godbless.

  • @SparklingMoon-w4h
    @SparklingMoon-w4h 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In the Old Testament there are descriptions of prophecies about the advent of three four kinds of Messiahs who have to appear for guidance according to the promise of God Almighty. We should not confuse them with one another as their advent times are different and their Missions are different. One Massiah who had to appear 2000 years ago for the people of Israel only that was the Son of Mary. A second one Massiah with a universal message for the people of all religions and nations after Jesus. According to the prophecies of the Bible this Messiah had to appear in the area of Paran. The third one Messiah that had to appear about 200 years ago in the middle of the eighteenth century. The fourth one, Massiah, has to appear quite End Time (about one thousand years after our time as we are passing through the 7th Millennium that is the last one and about two hundred years have passed). It is a mistake to apply all prophecies and descriptions of the Old Testament to one Messiah of Israel.

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      @DorisMatthew-l3e วันที่ผ่านมา

      Please how ?

    • @DorisMatthew-l3e
      @DorisMatthew-l3e วันที่ผ่านมา

      Am a born Christian and sometimes I feel so down 😭of myself because of low finance but I still believe God

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      @VictoriaAnthony-d2t วันที่ผ่านมา

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      @VictoriaAnthony-d2t วันที่ผ่านมา

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      @thidiempham8545 วันที่ผ่านมา

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  • @scholarforpeace
    @scholarforpeace 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What do you mean the Judaism Messiah does not die? Could you give a reference?

    • @jbchoc
      @jbchoc 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      His will be the kingship for ever; Messiah must not die for this to be true.

    • @scholarforpeace
      @scholarforpeace 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@jbchoc I understand that, I am asking about the reference, the source for this quote.
      Where does it say that in the Bible?
      Moses died and he was a Messiah.

    • @jbchoc
      @jbchoc 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@scholarforpeace Micah 5:2 seems the most quoted. The Talmud also talks about this (Genesis Rabba 1:4 and 2:4). There is no expectation in Judaism that there will be an era following that of Messiah, as that is when resurrection takes place...

    • @scholarforpeace
      @scholarforpeace 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@jbchoc Why does this seem similar to the myth of Odin in Valhalla?
      I don't know.
      The Messiah is a human, he will die. Unless he is lifted up to heaven like Enoch and like Jesus.
      Jesus will come back to earth, however, and on it he will die although he is the Messiah.
      I don't think that it is accurate that a Messiah has to not die. I think it is an innovation and addition to the text.

    • @somethingtothinkabout167
      @somethingtothinkabout167 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@jbchoc Revelation 1:17When I saw Him, I fell at His feet like a dead man. But He placed His right hand on me and said, “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last, 18the Living One. I was DEAD, and behold, now I am alive forever and ever! And I hold the keys of Death and of Hades.
      Being dead may not mean non-existence!!

  • @NinaOvadia
    @NinaOvadia 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No. The G-d of Israel has elongated His throne to accommodate His beloved. One G-d, one addendum. Watch the Royal Wedding. It should clear up many misconceptions.

  • @sheriedwards362
    @sheriedwards362 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    PS the brit Hadasha is a completely Jewish book!

  • @ready1fire1aim1
    @ready1fire1aim1 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yehoshu'a Son of Nun was originally named Hoshea Son of Nun and was from tribe of Ephraim not tribe of Judah. Moses changed his name with the implied meaning "may God save you from the conspiracy of the scouts".
    Try reading the House of Israel's "Story of Joshua" side-by-side the House of Judah's "Book of Joshua".
    THE WORLD RULER TRIES TO KILL ME
    And then a voice of the world ruler came to the angels: “I am god and there is no other god but me.” But I laughed joyfully when I examined his conceit. But he went on to say, “Who is the human?”
    And the entire host of his angels who had seen Adam and his dwelling were laughing at his smallness. And thus did their thought come to be removed outside the majesty of the heavens, away from the human of truth, whose name they saw, since he is in a small dwelling place. They are foolish and senseless in their empty thought, namely, their laughter, and it was contagion for them.
    The whole greatness of the fatherhood of the spirit was at rest in its places. And I was with him, since I have a thought of a single emanation from the eternal ones and the unknowable ones, undefiled and immeasurable. I placed the small thought in the world, having disturbed them and frightened the whole multitude of the angels and their ruler. And I was visiting them all with fire and flame because of my thought.
    And everything pertaining to them was brought about because of me. And there came about a disturbance and a fight around the seraphim and cherubim, since their glory will fade, and there was confusion around Adonaios on both sides and around their dwelling, up to the world ruler and the one who said, “Let us seize him.” Others again said, “The plan will certainly not materialize.” For Adonaios knows me because of hope. And I was in the mouths of lions. And as for the plan that they devised about me to release their error and their senselessness, I did not succumb to them as they had planned. And I was not afflicted at all.
    Those who were there punished me, yet I did not die in reality but in appearance, in order that I not be put to shame by them because these are my kinsfolk. I removed the shame from me, and I did not become fainthearted in the face of what happened to me at their hands. I was about to succumb to fear, and I suffered merely according to their sight and thought so that no word might ever be found to speak about them.
    For my death, which they think happened, happened to them in their error and blindness, since they nailed their man unto their death. Their thoughts did not see me, for they were deaf and blind. But in doing these things, they condemn themselves. Yes, they saw me; they punished me.
    It was another, their father, who drank the gall and the vinegar; it was not I. They struck me with the reed; it was another, Simon, who bore the cross on his shoulder. It was another upon whom they placed the crown of thorns. But I was rejoicing in the height over all the wealth of the rulers and the offspring of their error, of their empty glory. And I was laughing at their ignorance.

    • @somethingtothinkabout167
      @somethingtothinkabout167 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Revelations 1:17When I saw Him, I fell at His feet like a dead man. But He placed His right hand on me and said, “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last, 18the Living One. I was DEAD, and behold, now I am alive forever and ever! And I hold the keys of Death and of Hades.

  • @deborahrodriguez-castinado9536
    @deborahrodriguez-castinado9536 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is why. “Jesus’ Biological Father was Joseph: According to the New Testament” by DS WAGGONER.

    • @MAT-244
      @MAT-244 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      You are WRONG. Joseph was Jesus' adoptive father. When Jesus was conceived, his mother was a virgin until she gave birth to him.

  • @33Nooberly
    @33Nooberly 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am "Son Of Man"
    Your First Sign
    Exodus 19.9
    The Arrival Way
    Hurricane Tip - Oct 12th, 1979
    Your Second Sign
    Zakariah 14:16
    The Arrival Week-Tabernacles
    Oct 5th-Oct 12th 1979
    Your Third Sign
    Matthew 24:27
    The Arrival Location
    Hurricane Tip came from the East and moved west
    Your 4th Sign
    Matthew 24:28
    The Confirmation Sign
    Oct 19th, Hurricane Tip killed 13 Marines called Eagles, Japanese were called "Vultures" in the Pearl Harbor Song.
    Your 5th Sign
    Matthew 24:43
    His Name & Birth Time
    He is called "A-tif", He is born at night.
    More signs will soon come, The Kingdom will soon reveal itself. It's a Technology Kingdom.

  • @ShemaHaTorah
    @ShemaHaTorah วันที่ผ่านมา

    Short video here that shows how the Isaiah 53 'suffering servant' is NOT messiah ben joseph. th-cam.com/video/AdPR17l6RU4/w-d-xo.html

  • @IRVIBENYEHUDA
    @IRVIBENYEHUDA 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    G-D FORGIVES SIN NOT YOUR EXCUSES!

    • @MAT-244
      @MAT-244 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      And he does it through the shedding of blood since Adam. Why YHWH rejected the fig leaves that Adam made for himself and Eve? How did YHWH acquire the leather that he used to redress them? Through the shedding of blood of innocent animal. Let that sink in.

    • @IRVIBENYEHUDA
      @IRVIBENYEHUDA 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @MAT-244 THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. IT WAS THE "SHEDDING" OF BLOOD NOT THE "SHADING" OF BLOOD.....
      CHESSED BELOVED.
      SHALOM

    • @MAT-244
      @MAT-244 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@IRVIBENYEHUDA You are correct. Thanks for pointing that out. I edited the misspelling. Fyi, English is my third language. Phonics kill me =)

  • @ShemaHaTorah
    @ShemaHaTorah วันที่ผ่านมา

    There are plenty of 'anointed' ones (messiah) in Hebrew Scripture .. One of the most prominent 'God's Messiah' is King Cyrus (Isaiah 45). The only person in all of scripture where HaShem himself called him "My Messiah". Christians like to exaggerate the messiah ben Joseph figure because it reminds them of their Jesus figure. But at the end of the day, it doesn't matter much. No one is going around bowing down to King Cyrus just because he is the most prominent Messiah in all of scripture. Note: Your clearly getting your information from the book by David Mitchell called "Messiah ben Joseph" . I've read it and studied it , and it was one of the main books that helped me leave 40 years of Christianity and Convert to Judaism.

    • @somethingtothinkabout167
      @somethingtothinkabout167 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      "most prominent messiah." Bit of an exaggeration, isn't it? Dare you to ask 1000 people on the streets who they have heard of.

    • @ShemaHaTorah
      @ShemaHaTorah 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@somethingtothinkabout167 Most prominent use of the word Messiah in the Hebrew scriptures. who cares what the ignorant people on the streets say. I'm concerned with what the Hebrew scriptures say. and GOD himself says to King Cyrus "You are my Messiah". . so in all of Scripture, Cyrus is the most prominent Messiah figure we have.. though of course there are other anointed ones (messiahs), like David, Aaron. . but what do you care what people on the street say. Shouldn't you busy yourself with what the scriptures say about the topic?

  • @sheriedwards362
    @sheriedwards362 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Please read Isaiah 53. Please please please please please please read it for yourself. By his stripes we are healed❤

    • @thatguy3468
      @thatguy3468 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Please please please read Isaiah 49-52 it tells you who the suffering servant is, and it’s not your Jesus but rather the children of Israel who have been the target of the most vile attacks throughout history.

  • @itsmeme1430
    @itsmeme1430 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So the Jews didn't convert to Christianity and melt into the people he sent them to he hid me from them so a lot of the verses are double

  • @5thHouse
    @5thHouse 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So much effort to force what should be easy. The force is a clue.

    • @TheTorahGuide
      @TheTorahGuide  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      When you’re studying anything you can look at the surface, and that’s easy, and then you can decide to dig in and it becomes more complex. If you look at something at the surface you might say “well how can we be sure that’s true?” Answering that question, diving into how you know anything is true forces you to unpack the complexity. To dive in to “how you know” and say “it takes too much effort” is expecting even deeper study to be surface level, and that’s not how things work. The plain sense of the Hebrew Bible is that it all drives to a Messiah, when you dive into the creative expertly written masterpiece, the Hebrew Bible, it’s still the case. This video is part of that deeper dive.

  • @Terminator9394
    @Terminator9394 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm a Jesuit

  • @jbchoc
    @jbchoc 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Yes. -> Read the Book of Wisdom (Ben Sirah) which was excised from Tanakh to obfuscate that knowledge.

  • @itsmeme1430
    @itsmeme1430 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The sacrifice is me waiting till my 30s for this not in heaven the sanctuary was when he put bugs in my home now go read the 7s in Daniel

  • @jimmyjames7941
    @jimmyjames7941 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Isaiah 53?!

    • @TheTorahGuide
      @TheTorahGuide  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Isaiah 53 is a great example of this messiah like Joseph imagery being employed by the biblical authors to point to Jesus, if you want to dive in more, listen to the Isaiah 53 episode of the Messianic Trajectory podcast series.

    • @soBeItKryptonite
      @soBeItKryptonite 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@TheTorahGuide
      How is the servant of Isaiah 53 Jesus when Israel in the singular is called God's servant throughout Isaiah, both explicitly (Isa. 41:8-9; 44:1-2; 45:4; 48:20; 49:3) and implicitly (Isa. 42:19-20; 43:10) - the Messiah is not?

    • @TheEnigmaticmuse
      @TheEnigmaticmuse 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@soBeItKryptonitehow is Isaiah 53 about Israel when Jews don't believe that any one person can suffer for the sins of another?

    • @samael5782
      @samael5782 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TheEnigmaticmuse That's a typical Christian mistranslation. The servant is not suffering FOR someone but BECAUSE of someone. The Jews were scattered among the nations as punishment, and there they suffered *because* of the transgressions of their oppressors (the gentiles). Isaiah 53 is basically the confessions of the gentiles kings who are speaking there. The arm of the Lord has been revealed to them (God's salvation) and they are in astonishment. Check out Isaiah 49: "I will also make you a light for the Gentiles, that my salvation may reach to the ends of the earth."

    • @soBeItKryptonite
      @soBeItKryptonite 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TheEnigmaticmuse
      Where does it mention atone for sin in isaiah 53? It doesn't , so your assumption about the text lead you to the incorrect t conclusion of what we believe or what Isaiah 53 is actually about.

  • @anselmalmeida
    @anselmalmeida 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It doesn't matter at all.
    I believe dat Jesus is just what he told us. He is d only begotten Son of God. He is d Messiah. He is my Lord n Master, Saviour n King.
    To hell with what others say. Don't give a damn.

  • @LucasRandolfUgno
    @LucasRandolfUgno 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There's only one Messiah but two antimessiah.

  • @pinchasmalfasipinchassebas8232
    @pinchasmalfasipinchassebas8232 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Rabbi Emmanuel Ben Joseph Ben mlriam is mashiach Ben Joseph

  • @pinchasmalfasipinchassebas8232
    @pinchasmalfasipinchassebas8232 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    He is Jesus Christis

    • @MAT-244
      @MAT-244 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Freemason?

  • @IOANNIS-l7r
    @IOANNIS-l7r 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    THE SCRIPTURE TEACHES THAT THE MESSIAH THE ONE TRUE MESSIAH IS GOD HIMSELF .ELOHIM NITSAV BEADAT EL ELOHIM YISHPOT.THE RABBINIC JUDAISM IS DIFFERENT OF THE JUDAISM OF THE TEMPLE UNTIL HIS DESTRUCTION 70AC.IN THE TALMUD THERE ARE THINGS THAT THEY ARE AGAINST THE LAW AS THE GUILGOUL THE PREEXISTENCE OF THE SOULS THE MACHIAH AS POWERFUL KING RULING THE NATIONS AND 2 MASSIAH.....

    • @Rajul_Jamil
      @Rajul_Jamil 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Judaism doesn't teach that there will be an apostate Jew come to be the Mashiach, Jesus didn't do even the first thing that would make Jews think he was the Mashiach and for that reason Jews never thought he could have been. According to Jewish tradition, before Mashiach ben David will come Mashiach ben Yosef, who symbolizes the heroism of the people of Israel and will die in battle. What battle did Jesus fight in??

    • @IOANNIS-l7r
      @IOANNIS-l7r 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Rajul_Jamil SHALOM WHERE IN THE BIBLE THERE ARE COMING TWO MESSIAH MOSES TELLS NAVI AKIM LAHEM MIKEREV NAVI NOT NEVIIM.ISAIE IS THE MESSIANIC PROPHET BY EXCELLENCE NEVER REFERS AT TWO MESSIAH.CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE ARE REFERENCE FOR THEESE TWO MESSIAH?THANK YOU!!!

    • @Rajul_Jamil
      @Rajul_Jamil 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@IOANNIS-l7r I really don't understand what you wrote so please write in your mother tongue.

    • @IOANNIS-l7r
      @IOANNIS-l7r 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Rajul_Jamil Où DANS LA BIBLE IL EST DIT QU'IL Y A 2 MESSIES MOISE NOUS DIT D ATTENDRE UN PROPHETE COMME LUI.ISAIE LE PROPHETE MESSIANIQUE PAR EXCELLENCE NE SE REFERE JAMAIS A 2 MESSIES ..POUVEZ VOUS ME DIRE Où DANS QUELLE PROPHETIE EST CETTE REFERENCE A 2 MESSIES???

  • @errtrainer
    @errtrainer 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In talmudic fashion, anyone can be a rabbi, a prophet and a messiah. Back in roman times, being a messiah would end in a political issue, acussed by the sanhedrin and arresred by a roman legion. In those days a messiah was expected to lead a revolt against Rome. The temple was corrupted by the saducees, the elites born at the end of the macabean war. The original essenes priests were expelled bc they wanted a king of Dawid's bloodline and the macabean won't let that happen. So, a messiah was political trouble and the community behind him were sentenced to dissapear. An example: Rabbi Akiva chose gen Bar Kokbah as a messiah and things didnt ended well. A very different thing is the messianic era. The messianic era is our responsability and it won't be achieved trough a messiah, nor a red heiffer, nor a temple. Let alone thinking that YHVH will be in a temple made by the blood tainted hands of men. Shalom.

    • @garfield2742
      @garfield2742 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The jews had a lots of messiah they like, all ended miserably.

    • @Rajul_Jamil
      @Rajul_Jamil 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Judaism doesn't teach that there will be an apostate Jew come to be the Mashiach, Jesus didn't do even the first thing that would make Jews think he was the Mashiach and for that reason Jews never thought he could have been. According to Jewish tradition, before Mashiach ben David will come Mashiach ben Yosef, who symbolizes the heroism of the people of Israel and will die in battle. What battle did Jesus fight in??

    • @Rajul_Jamil
      @Rajul_Jamil 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@garfield2742 Judaism doesn't teach that there will be an apostate Jew come to be the Mashiach, Jesus didn't do even the first thing that would make Jews think he was the Mashiach and for that reason Jews never thought he could have been. According to Jewish tradition, before Mashiach ben David will come Mashiach ben Yosef, who symbolizes the heroism of the people of Israel and will die in battle. What battle did Jesus fight in??

    • @garfield2742
      @garfield2742 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Rajul_Jamil before messiah ben david. Will come messiah ben josef

    • @Rajul_Jamil
      @Rajul_Jamil 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@garfield2742 And where did you get that idea???

  • @yvonnesolomon2126
    @yvonnesolomon2126 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One messsiah is d priest who atones for eve d priest n d messiah davaid is the restoration to Adam d masculinr ... D holy spirit was sent on d festival of shavot , breaking adams struggle

  • @1YouTube_you
    @1YouTube_you 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Isiah 53:5
    Psalm 22

    • @TheTorahGuide
      @TheTorahGuide  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah these are two prime examples of how the biblical authors looked at the expectation for the Messiah in the Torah and developed the suffering servant imagery. If you want to dive in deeper, check out the Isaiah 53 episode of our Messianic trajectory podcast series.

    • @soBeItKryptonite
      @soBeItKryptonite 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@TheTorahGuide
      How can the suffering servant be Jesus if isaiah in the singular repeatedly referred to Israel/jacob as the servant (41:8-9, 44:1-2, 45:4, 48:20, 49:3) and implicitly in 42:19-20, 43:10) while the messiah is not?

    • @TheTorahGuide
      @TheTorahGuide  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@soBeItKryptonite that’s an interesting question, I unpack it in detail in the episode I mentioned. But mentioning a group of people and then one representative of that people is common practice throughout the Hebrew Bible, starting with Adam. Moses often acts on behalf of Israel etc.

    • @soBeItKryptonite
      @soBeItKryptonite 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TheTorahGuide
      Or that the group of people are referred to as like one person.
      Jeremiah 31
      10 For the Lord has redeemed Jacob👈 and has saved 👉him👈 out of the hand of him who is stronger than he.
      So why can't the righteous remnant of Israel be the referred to in Isaiah 53?

    • @TheTorahGuide
      @TheTorahGuide  6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ that’s not faithful to what the author of that passage was expressing. If you ready through that passage it’s clear it’s no longer the collective group but a singular individual.

  • @itsmeme1430
    @itsmeme1430 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Another translation

  • @abrahamphilip6439
    @abrahamphilip6439 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Jewish comvenient creation
    The Rabbincal order await a message from the Ark, Jesus had allready said it " The sign of Jonah"

  • @isseyphresh82
    @isseyphresh82 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Doctrine of Devil's

  • @soBeItKryptonite
    @soBeItKryptonite 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you share with us the hebrew word fir virgin?
    If you're unsure of where to find it
    👇
    See isaiah 62;5 - KJV
    " as a man marrieth a virgin"
    Is the hebrew word fir virgin as found in 62;5 the hebrew word we find in 7;14?

    • @Shane_The_Confessor
      @Shane_The_Confessor 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's the same word that always refers to a young, unmarried woman.

    • @soBeItKryptonite
      @soBeItKryptonite 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Shane_The_Confessor
      Then show me the hebrew word isaiah uses in 62:5 and 7;14

    • @soBeItKryptonite
      @soBeItKryptonite 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Shane_The_Confessor
      While you're at it, is the Hebrew word in Isaiah 7,14 the same as found in Leviticus 21:13-14?

    • @soBeItKryptonite
      @soBeItKryptonite 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Shane_The_Confessor
      Leviticus 21
      13 He shall marry a woman in her 👉virgin👈 state.
      14 👉A widow, a divorcee, a woman who is desecrated or a prostitute he shall not marry [any] of these. 👉Only a virgin👈 of his people may he take as a wife.
      Is the hebrew word below found in leviticus 21 the same word you find in isaiah 7;14?
      בְּתוּלָ֥ה

    • @Shane_The_Confessor
      @Shane_The_Confessor 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@soBeItKryptoniteYou're talking about alma and betulah. You think you're the first person in 2k years to notice that? This objection has been long answered.

  • @crisseven1764
    @crisseven1764 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Prophets merge Messiah Ben Yosef and Messiah Ben David into one person. See David Mitchell. He has a great book on that.

    • @crisseven1764
      @crisseven1764 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeshua fulfills both

  • @willscheck8072
    @willscheck8072 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    the Lord said that a jew who rejects his words isn't a jew, but a son of satan. so a real jew is more than being a flesh relative of Abraham. the scriptures call it a synagogue of satan. they will attack a real jew who speaks the truth.

  • @glassroads
    @glassroads วันที่ผ่านมา

    Judaism lied about what happened to Iseus. You have no idea who Iseus was… Origen says Iseus was the Lord of Oudah. He was Hosea, not Yeshua.
    You have no idea what the sold Testament says. Song of Solomon is about the battle of Troy. I promise…

  • @yvonnesolomon2126
    @yvonnesolomon2126 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The torah is in human DNA d jews r tying it on their hands n forehead, christ will activate d torah in u , Jeremiah says i will rite law on their hearts n mind , abraham had d torah activated in him n so did Ishmael, jacob s torah was dormsnt in his DNA so he had to wrestle with d angei to activate d Torah within, after which he became isreal .... His attitude towas esau changes , thats d spiritual Aliya every jacob must take to become Israel

  • @ByCloud_ByFire777
    @ByCloud_ByFire777 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Yeshua is BOTH...the Only One Who is BOTH. He came on a DONKEY (DONKEY - non-war symbol aka * Ben Yoseph) and when He Returns, He will be on a HORSE (HORSE - symbolic of war * Ben David)
    Amen!

  • @journeyintothebible
    @journeyintothebible 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Jesus didn't exist, and he was never a leader or a king.

  • @dmitriyfadyukhin7676
    @dmitriyfadyukhin7676 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So, God needs someone to explain Himself to us all? He can’t communicate with a person one on one?
    Sounds like God has a communication issue.
    I was taught he is almighty.

    • @TheTorahGuide
      @TheTorahGuide  6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Would you mind expanding? What gave you the impression I was saying God needs someone to explain him?

    • @danahuerta7026
      @danahuerta7026 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      God's Word is the vehicle God uses to speak to us. So if you want God to speak to you read scripture, but because man is not so bright compared to God Almighty it helps if you ask God to open your eyes so that you can understand the wonders of His Word and laws and ways.

  • @omar1187
    @omar1187 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Quran says he wasnt killed he was made to appear so. God later raised him into the heavens. Jesus is the Messiah

    • @norab2125
      @norab2125 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It is written in quran that your allah and mo affirmed the Torah and the gospel are the truth for muslims to follow as guidance, light and instruction for the righteous. If allah affirmed the Bible as truth, then quran is false as it contradicts the Bible. If the Bible is false, then quran will still be false as allah and mo has affirmed the Bible as the truth. Either way, quran will always be false. And if quran is false, then Jesus is the TRUTH as the Bible had mentioned.

    • @omar1187
      @omar1187 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@norab2125 God sent the Quran to confirm the previous scriptures, correct what was corrupted and expand on all the teachings. The scriptures have been altered and it is believed that the original injeel is not even the same as the gospels. The gospels are created by unknown human writers. They are presented in a language that prophet Isa didnt speak and additionally, they are a secondary source at best based on recounts from follower experiences with jesus (this is subject to human misinterpretation and error but also uses other sources in their creation. If you look at the oldest parchment of mark you will see it was roughly 3 centuries after jesus. Showing a major gap in information. Not one single copy of the oldest gospels is the same. This isnt based on the Quran. That is what the historical theology says from carbon dating and also linguistic analysis. Allah brought the Quran and designed it to be preserved which it was. There is only one copy of the Quran (as it claimed i would be) this is more than I can say about the Gospels today, which have 100,000 different copies. with ~45,000 different denominations of Christianity.

    • @norab2125
      @norab2125 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ Read your quran again. Islam made you into pagans when allah taught you to lick the black stone for the forgiveness of your sins. Mo made you pedo when allah agreed for mo to marry a six year old. Haven’t you noticed there is something wrong with islam? Islam teaches hatred and lies. And you have just admitted that your allah is a false, useless and powerless god who can’t protect his words from being corrupted. Go ahead, read. It is written in your quran that the Torah and the Gospel came from him and are not supposed to be corrupted but you said yourself that they were corrupted. 😂😵🙄😵‍💫

    • @somethingtothinkabout167
      @somethingtothinkabout167 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Can you give us a reference in the Quran for that? Revelation 1:17When I saw Him, I fell at His feet like a dead man. But He placed His right hand on me and said, “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last, 18the Living One. I was DEAD, and behold, now I am alive forever and ever! And I hold the keys of Death and of Hades.

  • @GolfnMoreclips
    @GolfnMoreclips 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Not bad.
    One of the best non biased
    examinations of Hebrew text.
    But much more is needed for you have the truth. 💯
    There is no such thing as a Messianic Jew..
    Yes, in a secular sense.
    But that concept is unscriptual.
    They are no longer God's chosen people.
    (Psalm 118:22)
    [The stone that the builders rejected Has become the chief cornerstone] 💯
    Jeremiah 31:31,32)
    (Ephesians 4:5,6)
    I would like to see a biblical conversation with Rabbi Tovia.
    Love truth, learn truth, teach truth.
    Sha'lom Aleichem in Hamashiach Hallelujah-Praise Almighty Jah you people.

    • @Rajul_Jamil
      @Rajul_Jamil 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Judaism doesn't teach that there will be an apostate Jew come to be the Mashiach, Jesus didn't do even the first thing that would make Jews think he was the Mashiach and for that reason Jews never thought he could have been. According to Jewish tradition, before Mashiach ben David will come Mashiach ben Yosef, who symbolizes the heroism of the people of Israel and will die in battle. What battle did Jesus fight in??

    • @GolfnMoreclips
      @GolfnMoreclips 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@Rajul_Jamil
      Apparently, against the wicked Jewish ✡️ nation...
      (Luke 13:34)
      [O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those sent to her, how often I have longed to gather your children together as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were unwilling!]
      It's obvious that you don't know the scriptures.
      Prophet Isaiah speaks to the Messianic King being the prince of peace. 💯
      I did notice that you avoided the scriptures plague.
      Care to address those. 😅
      Very similar to the faithless, rebellious, superstitious nation. 💯
      Love truth, learn truth,teach truth.
      Sha'lom Aleichem in Hamashiach
      Hallelujah-Praise Almighty Jah you people

    • @GolfnMoreclips
      @GolfnMoreclips 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @Rajul_Jamil
      Yes, apparently, he had to fight with that faithless nation.(not war or physically). Yeshua said ....
      [ O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those sent to her, how often I have longed to gather your children together as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were unwilling!]
      Psalm 118:22)
      [The stone that the builders rejected Has become the chief cornerstone]
      Yes, Yeshua Hamashiach was to come in the LATTER DAYS.
      BUT before the destruction of Jerusalem and the Holy Temple.
      (Jeremiah 31:31,32)
      “Behold, the days come,” says Yahweh, “that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah,not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, which covenant of mine they broke, although I was a husband to them,” says Yahweh.]
      (1 Samuel 8:7)
      [Yahweh said to Samuel, “Listen to the voice of the people in all that they tell you; for they have not rejected you, but they have rejected me as the king over them.]
      It's so easy to refute this unfaithful, faithless, rebellious, superstitious nation ✡️.

    • @GolfnMoreclips
      @GolfnMoreclips 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Rajul_Jamil
      Internet troll 🧌 with nothing of substance to add

    • @Rajul_Jamil
      @Rajul_Jamil 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@GolfnMoreclips Anything that an educated Jew would say is irelivent to your radical satanic cult.

  • @nikmoj1522
    @nikmoj1522 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yeshua ha meshiach

  • @gideonopyotuadebo2304
    @gideonopyotuadebo2304 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The error is in thinking that the Messiah is an individual alone when there are many messiah's
    All Hebrew kings are mashiachs and not even all the mashiachs lived righteous godly acceptable life
    Claiming Jesus the son of Joseph is Messiah king when he was never a king of Israel is an error

    • @qasmb1546
      @qasmb1546 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: No error.

    • @somethingtothinkabout167
      @somethingtothinkabout167 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      And Herod was the rightful king of Israel?

  • @levyburns4163
    @levyburns4163 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Jesus is a lie.

  • @garethmyname
    @garethmyname 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Jews should learn there prophecy. Yes the messiah is killed in prophecy. . In Isaiah 53, a chapter in the Hebrew Bible, a virtuous servant is murdered but does not protest: "Like a sheep being led to the slaughter or a lamb that is silent before her shearers, he did not open his mouth" (Isaiah 53:7). His silence is praised because there was no "deceit in his mouth" (Isaiah 53:9)

  • @norab2125
    @norab2125 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It was prophesied in the Torah that they will reject their messiah. The Israelites rejected Jesus.

    • @TheTorahGuide
      @TheTorahGuide  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes it was, but it was also prophesied that some would accept him and that’s exactly what happened. Many Jewish people including the leadership rejected Jesus, but many also accepted him including key leaders (like Nicodemus and Joseph of Aramathea, members of the Sanhedrin) in Acts we learn that thousands and thousands of Jewish people including many Pharisees accepted Jesus.

    • @norab2125
      @norab2125 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ Yes, a lot of Jews accepted him but the majority did not. The last time I watched “One for Israel” a messianic Jew channel a year ago, there were only about 30,000 Christian Jews? Out of 15 million Jews? I hope I’m wrong.

    • @Piddley65
      @Piddley65 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@norab2125 where does it says in the torah the jews would reject their messiah ???

    • @norab2125
      @norab2125 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ Isaiah 53

    • @Piddley65
      @Piddley65 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@norab2125
      When did Isaiah ended up in the Torah?
      The Torah for us Jews is the 5 books of Moses...
      again, Where did its says in the 5 books of Moses, the Jews would reject the messiah ?

  • @itsmeme1430
    @itsmeme1430 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There's only one Messiah Jesus Christ but I'm the advocate & some times when it says lord it doesn't mean lord almighty but lord of heavens army's the arch strategist Michael

  • @JamesSpringer-rr5jt
    @JamesSpringer-rr5jt 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    OMG what foolishness

  • @melanielynne0414
    @melanielynne0414 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Judaism dreams of World Domination.

    • @TheTorahGuide
      @TheTorahGuide  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This couldn’t be further from the truth. The Muslim holy book, the Quran, teaches that Muslims should spread Islam by establishing governments through war. Jesus taught his followers to spread his heavenly kingdom not through war but through winning hearts, sharing the news about him in love. But Modern Judaism unlike Christianity and Islam does not even make any effort to win converts at all. Modern Judaism allows converts, but doesn’t even pursue it.

    • @melanielynne0414
      @melanielynne0414 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @TheTorahGuide Right. But Israel has Trump. And all the Zionists are giddy.

    • @CHANEL_RAHASIA_TERORIS
      @CHANEL_RAHASIA_TERORIS 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@TheTorahGuideWhy do Why do you offend Islam? What do you know?
      Zionism? Fascist? Death threats against the Pharisees? Kill anyone who invites apostasy? Carrying a sword (conflict)? I challenge you to compare the verses that tell about war in the Bible and the quran 🤣

    • @qasmb1546
      @qasmb1546 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheTorahGuide Judaism and Islam are 2 sides of the same coin, they both dream of world domination and to argue otherwise is just pure ignorance.

    • @qasmb1546
      @qasmb1546 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheTorahGuide They dont want converts, they want domination like ithlam what dont you get.

  • @ReneZambrano-ff9hz
    @ReneZambrano-ff9hz 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Romans 11:25 the jews are temporarily blinded until the fulness of the gentile be fulfille,. And when all the prophecies in scripture have been fulfilled and christ begin his reign through out the earth.he will open the eyes of every one

  • @Penguinzero1
    @Penguinzero1 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Jesus is the only messiah

  • @TheArmchairPriest
    @TheArmchairPriest 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Messiah ben David is Yeshua, who will return upon the death of messiah ben yosef.
    Messiah Ben Yosef is the future chief minister Michael, whom yeshua called the coming Advocate.

  • @SDsc0rch
    @SDsc0rch 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the Jewish people are veiled from seeing the truth
    FOR A TIME
    until the fullness of the gentiles is come in
    they worshipped gods who were not gods
    so God "divorced" them and went to a people who were not a people (us - the gentiles)
    and the increase of His kingdom shall have no end!

  • @Rajul_Jamil
    @Rajul_Jamil 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Judaism doesn't teach that there will be an apostate Jew come to be the Mashiach, Jesus didn't do even the first thing that would make Jews think he was the Mashiach and for that reason Jews never thought he could have been. According to Jewish tradition, before Mashiach ben David will come Mashiach ben Yosef, who symbolizes the heroism of the people of Israel and will die in battle. What battle did Jesus fight in??

    • @Paramenon
      @Paramenon 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @Rajul_Jamil
      The battle against sin and death and HE CONQUERED THEM RISING IN THE THIRD DAY. HALLELUYAH. PRAISE YAHWEH AND HIS SON YESHUA HAMASHIACH AND THE RUAJ HAKODESH. AMEN.

    • @Rajul_Jamil
      @Rajul_Jamil 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Paramenon And you believe that BS....LOL

    • @Shane_The_Confessor
      @Shane_The_Confessor 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      If Messiah didn't come by 70 AD, he's not coming and thr scriptures have been broken.

    • @danahuerta7026
      @danahuerta7026 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The Jewish people and leaders (Pharisees & Sauducees) were looking for the Messiah and they knew the Hebrew Scripture and were very aware of the messianic prophesies about the Messiah in scripture. Just as today everyone knows the anti-christ is coming and the rapture is in our future; everyone was waiting for the Messiah around the 1st Century. Also at this the time that Jesus walked the Earth, their were many people claiming to be the Messiah. So the Pharisees (Jewish Leaders) were out and about the land investigating these claims to determine if they were false or true. There were messianic prophesies about the messiah and the messianic miracles. For example, only the Messiah could completely restore and heal a leper, especially a leper that had already suffered extensive body damage from the disease. Jesus healed a leper and then sent the man to the Jewish Priests so they could determine that the man was clean. Luke 5 :12-16 records one of 3 Messianic Miracles that Jesus performed. These Messianic Miracles were proof to the individuals and the leaders. So why did the people not believe? Well many looked to their leaders for the answer instead of asking God and relying on their own understanding. The next question is why didn't all the Jewish leaders not accept Jesus as the Messiah? Some did, such as Nicodemus. Was it power? Status? Or maybe Jesus did not act in a way they wanted Him to act? Whatever the reason those Jewish Leaders at that time chose to reject the Messiah.

    • @Rajul_Jamil
      @Rajul_Jamil 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@danahuerta7026 Your Anti-christ myth was born of feer that the Jews were right and they want you to believe that your pagan Jesus is the only way.
      There were no Jewish leaders believe your Jesus was the Messiah, the few Jews that did join the new cult were ignorant of Judaism living in Greece and Rome like Paulus who was most likely not Jewish at all. Paulus was born in Greece and most likely his father married a pagan woman and they moved to Rome where Paulus grew up with his pagan mother's influence and for that reason he followed the satan in his dream.

  • @itsmeme1430
    @itsmeme1430 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Trump

  • @dansaber4427
    @dansaber4427 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you knew who Jesus was unlike the apostles you wouldn't worship Him. If you had respect for the scriptures you wouldn't be playing with them like your crystal ball. You don't know what you're doing.

    • @Rajul_Jamil
      @Rajul_Jamil 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Judaism doesn't teach that there will be an apostate Jew come to be the Mashiach, Jesus didn't do even the first thing that would make Jews think he was the Mashiach and for that reason Jews never thought he could have been. According to Jewish tradition, before Mashiach ben David will come Mashiach ben Yosef, who symbolizes the heroism of the people of Israel and will die in battle. What battle did Jesus fight in??

  • @JA71280
    @JA71280 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yeshua is ha Mashiach!! Blessed is He, our Lord and Saviour. Baruch Haba B’Shem Adonai. 🙌