is beauty a choice? (looksmaxxing, anti-aging, filler + surgery )
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- is beauty a choice or are you destined to be fugly forever???
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genuinely i don't think our brains are wired to look at ourselves as much as we do. it's driving us insane.
I actually really liked your comment. We spend so much time looking at ourselves- life will be more joyful when we look to others (spreading love through community) , looking out towards nature (a different kind of beauty) and maybe up towards the stars. Maybe down into the pages of a book or up at a cinema screen. Anything to live rather than to ruminate on what we look like living.
You’re right.
*compare ourselves.
The more globalized the world, the more untouchables are exposed to the lives of 0.1% & are gaslit to believe *EVERYONE* can be a 0.1% 😹😹
In hs i noticed my friends would spend sooo much time looking at themselves so I felt like i needed to too. I realized id started to find more and more things id never cared about before. I stopped looking as often beacuse i didn't want to feel bad and have kept it that way since. Now i just quickly check on myself like my hair, teeth, makeup and up my nose lmao. not to compare just to fix up
This is the problem with normalizing narcissism
people are literally proving fannita’s point by calling her ugly
It's because fannita isn't even conventionally attractive....and yet said that thinking she was one of those pretty people...when she's overweight and has a very average look, especially under all the makeup...
@@ewidontlikeyou she said not everyone’s attractive and people called her unattractive, which proved her point. some people think she’s pretty, others think she’s ugly. beauty is subjective at the end of the day.
Which makes her silly for even saying anything if at the end of the day we can chalk it up to being subjective... @@roseadiaz
@@ewidontlikeyou … Proving her point. While saying that, I’m sure she was aware of how people perceived her. You’re literally AGREEING with her. I highly doubt she thought she was Halle Barry while making that statement.
@@gromplin Noo, I seriously think she thought she was beautiful and just trying to poop on others lol. Unaware to the max. Which is funny. What was even her point in saying it to begin with then??? Everyone ALREADY KNEW THAT.
i once heard "Social media shows us that is worse to be ugly than evil"
This!!! ❤️
Yepp :|
The way this is so true since there are innumerous criminals in ttk rn being romanticized bc they are pretty
it’s all for marketing. marketing spf, skincare, makeup, body sinching clothing, botox…beauty standards are largely inflated by capitalism and social media is making people especially women insecure so they will buy shit they dont need, like the anti-wrinkle straws 💀
Which is very funny cause in many family-targeted medias (ahem, Disney, I'm looking at you!) protagonists are always "ideal" and "pretty" while "ugly" characters are either comedy relief sidekicks, background characters or villains.
looksmaxxing (or any other -maxxing) def has origins in incel circles, but i also think it's funny that what men consider "looksmaxxing" is just what women do on a daily basis lol, like doing ur hair, makeup, skincare, just selfcare is general lol
They get so defensive when u tell them it’s the bare minimum 😂
no fr, like isn't that just self care? or when grown ass men start discovering basic empathy, when women been had it practically since birth
@@ak4me880 This statement is so ironic, people really have no self-awareness 💀.
@@stunnawhirl Why spend so much time and money to look the same (or worse in some cases)?
@@55CINCO55 99% of yall dont do shit to improve yourselves, and literally just post videos and tweets across all social media platforms dickriding ur “PSL” gods or giving advice like to shower daily😭
I personally think that people need to chill out about beauty and realize 90% of us aren’t ugly we’re just average and the other 10% needs to admit they got lucky with genetics
Exacttlyyy! We are so used to seeing beautiful people we forget how actual humans look like.
@@to_ur_heart "we" some people actually touch grass you know.
@@55CINCO55and what? You think grass is ugly?
@@auggiemain XD
Well… I do think there’s a 10 percent who are ugly. But who cares? There’s so much more to life than looks.
I think another problem is that people conflate value and attractiveness. So the lady at the beginning said "Some people are not attractive", some people took that as "you are worth less". I think the bigger issue is that society places too much value on being attractive, to the point where if you are "ugly" you're "nothing".
Exactly. I took what Fannita said as not everyone is beautiful but that doesn’t mean that if you’re ugly you are less valued as a human being
This
i don't understand why everyone jumped her, i totally agreed with her
@@kazakukogI think it's because she's not seen as the societal standard of attractiveness (basing this on a western standard), so when an "unattractive" person says something about not everyone is attractive, it's seen as ironic. I also agreed with her, and it sucks that she was insulted left and right (mostly about her looks) which just sadly proves her point.
This is spot on! I think we should move towards the understanding that your appearance does not increase or decrease your worth as a human. If we understand that, we would recognise that sure, some people are more or less physically attractive than others but their worth and value as a human being is independent of that, as it should be.
OMG the 14 year old's skincare routine to prevent aging was straight-up horrifying, When I was 14 I was worried I wouldn't pass my math tests and my english reports wouldn't be top notch, Social media is a menace
RIGHT When I was 14 I just wanted the new iPhone
i was worried about passing my geometry class and obsessing about boy bands all day 😭😭 i was living the life tho fs
As someone who is 15 I am insecure about many things, and because of that im always looking in the mirror and making sure my lipgloss is fine and my hair is fine. I always need to be reassured. I have a skin care but not as crazy’s as hers tho. But anyway, I realize it’s sad that I care so much too much about how Iook to the point where I’m crying about what I don’t look like, that I’m not pretty enough. It’s sad that this happens.
the girl goes to my school😭 i’m pretty sure it just started out as her being little and having an interest in makeup but social media def didn’t help
@@oceanexblve884you what
Can we talk about how most models actually ARENT conventionally attractive? They often have unique faces and features. Because being different is beautiful in its own way
Honestly I agree. In my early teen years people started to try to force me into modelling because i looked interesting. I never got called pretty but just interesting and that i would fit into runways. I took it as an insult for years as i felt like people didn’t find me pretty, but now that i’m older i have started to feel a lot more comfortable with my looks not being conventional because i grew into my features and learned how to present myself better.
@@tuulimarlen2897dawg modeling agencies are looking for people that stand out and have a face that can be remembered. If u wanna be a model go for it 👍 if u don’t that’s chill I’m glad that you’ve grown into ur looks and feel better about urself ^_^
A uniquely long ramus, 120* gonial angle, high set cheekbones, hollow cheeks, dovetailing cheeks, 1:1 midface ratio, 2:1 face to weight height ratio (fwhr), forwardly grown maxilla, chin projection, positive cantal tilt, hunter eyes, deep set eyes, *a noticeable above average interpupillary distance* and mandible bones like those on jordan barrett
My aunt was a runway model, my cousins have followed in her footsteps.Models are required to fit very specific measurements and proportions: At least 5’9”, and below 33-26-36- thicker than that, and they can’t work- The “uniqueness “ you mention are quirks that stand out within the rigid standards of conventional standards of beauty ( ie high cheekbones, long legs and beck, evenly spaced features with pleasing , photogenic appearance. Beauty can be mathematically and scientifically, measured by the golden ratio which is geometric and echoed throughout classical art.and nature. unless you’re being paid for your looks like my cousins or trying to win a successful husband., it’s pointless to obsess this much over looks. Being a good person a good friend having strong, moral values and skills is what makes you a valuable person to know the around and live with.. not the shape of your nose or your measurements. If you’re not a worthwhile person, people won’t put up with you outside of photo shoots.
@@iMogggYouuu
and yet the commenters here will say the guy in ur profile pic is not ugly
I hate when people say "everyone is beautiful". It invalidates the suffering caused from not being beautiful. It also downplays the benefits of being beautiful. I always thought that I wanted to be beautiful. What I really wanted, was to be treated better. If I get made fun of my appearance (a lot of racist comments), and some white girl on the internet says "everyone is beautiful", I swear to god I'm going to lose it.
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This part! People treat you how they view you. A lot of us tend to overcompensate with a poop tonne of compliments (Iike she said in the video)
It’s weird how people tell others to change while they don’t change their view of others, knowing that if we all do this, society would be so much better as a whole
I definitely think there’s a somewhat unfair advantage beautiful (and I mean, current beauty standards-fitting) people have, sometimes it’s more evident than other times, but I think it reaches its peak in school because there’s not only beautiful people, but it’s full of immature, mean and horribly raised/regulated kids and teens
I’m only 24, but I’ve found once you come out of that hostile environment, people isn’t as mean, even if they do deem you as non beautiful, or at least that’s been my personal experience
I literally had no friends til I was 15 because I was ugly and I was bullied and was constantly rejected because no one wanted to do class activities with me so I was alone, even at recess, so I know what that pain is like
But I’ve found the most beauty within myself, when I’m surrounded by people I love who love me back, I feel the most beautiful and suddenly, I don’t care about physical appearances anymore, because I know those who love me love who I am, not what I look like, just as I do them
Of course, my opinion about myself fluctuates, it’s not always linear
I ended up so scarred most of the time I get triggered by kids and teens because somehow I feel like I know they carry the devil inside and they’re awfully mean people, even if they look normal on the outside
So I don’t think everyone IS beautiful, there’s definitely some nasty people in this world, but I do think that anyone CAN be beautiful, if they put in the effort, if they keep themselves clean, if they wear tidy clothes, if they got their hair brushed, even a hair style that fits their unique features and it’s not a copy of what looks good on somebody else, no size 0, but a healthy body size, cause ultimately, that’s what the eye perceives (healthy, or not healthy, it’s been in our DNA for thousands of years), clean teeth, even if they got their teeth crooked, they could (potentially) get them fixed (crooked teeth ain’t just about looks, they can affect your overall health, I know they improved mine when my jaw stopped getting stuck, it was a horrible experience)
So many times I’ve been out and about and told my bf someone looked beautiful, but what gave me that perception was that the person looked taken care of, and in my mind that showed confidence and love towards themselves, you only take care of the things you care about, right?
And when you show kindness, you show compassion, and that, is a beautiful thing to witness no matter the culture
“A true act of selflessness always sparks another” -Klaus
As humans we crave connections, emotional intimacy, and we can identify the lack thereof it even as young as children so we really shouldn’t be taking it from granted (book: adult children from emotionally immature parents)
We can’t get that emotional intimacy we need by looking at a beautiful people, if it’s just looks it’s like ordering a pie and realizing it has no filling. I know it’s cheesy, but what matters most, in the end, is who you are as a person, that can make a difference between being deemed ugly, or beautiful, between having people wanna be your friend or not
And I know it’s a hard thing to see because the whole point of social media is getting attention and validation solely for your looks, so you end up thinking if you don’t got the looks, you got nothing
But it’s not like that
You do the best with what you got
And ultimately (personal opinion), we don’t need to love EVERY PART of ourselves, look STUNNING in every angle possible, we can normalize not being in absolute love with every inch of ourselves and still be okay with it and live our lives, it’s social media that has warped our perception of what we should look like, like heck, people on TikTok spend all day beauty checking every inch of themselves and auto causing mental breakdowns… which they then post online for the world to see
That’s what happens when you expect the phone to do your job and instead or raising resilient confident young adults, you let social media raise them as insecure, superficial, addicted, eco chambered and agressive
That’s my take anyway, and everyone can have a different one
Asian girls are the most beautiful Idc what anyone says
"I always thought that I wanted to be beautiful. What I really wanted, was to be treated better."
i feel this in my soul.
I think body neutrality is the way to go
Accepting what you look like is the way to go.
@@55CINCO55 I don't think you know what body neutrality is, sweetheart. You sound quite bitter in these comments, which is a telltale sign of your own insecurity. I hope you get the help you need someday.
Agreed
Beauty brands would never
That's what I strive for. At least I have a funcional body and I'm fortunate enough to not have any health issues.
i'm 49 and the only "anti-aging" advice i have is to wear sunscreen, all of my goth friends over 50 look great! Regardless of your skin color wear good sun protection.
My mom is skin cancer survivor she said skin is our largest organ and skin cancer it’s so painful so suncreen should be as brushing our teeth
My mom believes that we (black people) don't need sunscreen so she doesn't buy it 😔
The sun, and diet contribute to our age far more than anything. As someone who doesn't get sun almost ever, I look way younger and have almost no wrinkles than someone who spends almost all day outside, drinks all the time, and smokes, and they're younger than me to boot. If you care about aging, then stay out of the sun or wear sun screen.
Stay out of the sun, drink a lot of water to moisturize from the inside, dont wear foundation/powder, use face scrub in the shower and then face serum when you get out. all the "beauty creams" and "wrinkle creams" dont work.
@@shinobuily That’s a shame. She’s never gotten a sunburn? Black people get sunburns too. You should try showing her research if you haven’t already.
Yeah, I don't know why people say, "Everyone is beautiful." As a black woman, I know that you have to be rated at least 7/10 to be treated like a decent human being. My glow up seriously improved my overall life.
yeah thats true. Honestly, if you aren't a white women, you need to be like superrrr beautiful to be considered at the same level as an average-cute white female.
o_o is it because black peopel are uglier ? society obvs thinks so, but do you agree? curious@@chunks7166
A good amount of the people who say 'everyone is beautifull' honestly thinks that. Those people are much less judgmental to others and don't percive attractivness in conventional way, probably. I spend last few years learning what is conventional beauty because I was curious what y'll talking about and it's still so weird to me. Maybe it's cultural thing because in my country we don't have much beauty standards. But on the other hand jeez judging someone based on their looks is so shallow and silly
@@chunks7166hard disagree. Hispanic and Asian women especially get treated way better and can look worse than black women. It's definitely a black wo.an thing to have to be very pretty to get treated like a person
@@perdybirdiei don't agree with this.
Hispanic is also an ethnicity not a race.
no but Fannita has a point, not everyone is meant to be beautiful. I've been struggling with my self image for so long and you know what? I'm not beautiful. My face is asymmetrical and weird and that's fine!!!
That being said, I think beauty *is* subjective in the sense that everybody is capable of finding beauty in others no matter how conventionally attractive they are
I agree completely!!!! :) i am also in the asymmetrical ugly face club 😅
That’s my point! Beauty (or lack thereof) does not have any bearing on being worthy of respect.
Ive been enjoying my life more since i stopped feeling like i needed to be beautiful. Salkis re helped me with that.
I agree. It’s okay for people to think of themselves as not beautiful, as long as they don’t associate that with their value and how they should be treated. It gets a bit overkill when people keep insisting everyone is beautiful.
Totally agree! We don't owe it to the world to be beautiful.
Tiktok's obsession with beauty hacks and anti-aging makes me deeply uncomfortable.
Its just ur algorithm lol
tiktok in general makes me uncomfortable
It’s become manic
then don’t b on the app
The fact that you have 20 and 30 year old women out here. Trying to look like teenagers again. Is weird the whole bell delphine effect was a weird time and it disturbed me
I used to be so consumed with anti-aging and staying young, but then two of my closest friends died very suddenly - they were only 28 and 29 - and it changed my perspective on nearly everything, especially related to aging. It’s been a few years now, I’m in my mid-30’s and definitely noticing changes to my face and body, but I’m grateful for every line in my forehead and grey hair and that this aging body gets to experience all of the life I still have ahead of me. Some of us aren’t lucky enough to grow old, and we should be thankful for these fleshy vessels that are doing everything they can to keep us alive. Getting older is a blessing.
That’s exactly what I said :) 🎉
Amen 🙏🏽
“Do not resent growing old, for it is a privilege denied to many.”
I feel like this is especially heavy for me considering the massacre in Gaza right now
I agree!! My older brother died 6 years ago at age 33 and this year I’ll turn older than he ever got to become. Aging is a gift!
It’s ironic how she said “not everyone is beautiful” and the people who got angry about that statement responded by saying “you are not beautiful”…. Bestie, you are proving her point either way, if u don’t think she’s beautiful then you automatically agree with her???
Ppl cope too much. Our self esteem is tied to how desirable we are. A mother wouldn’t tell a 1/10 child to be hopeless
Fr, you'd think she busted down their home door to personally tell them that they were one of the ugly ones🤡🤡🤡
Children are in no way safe from social beauty standards, Unfortunately. I was a chubby kid and was mistreated by my peers and GROWN ADULTS, related and unrelated to me. After puberty and once being curvy was “trendy” was I then treated differently. It’s sad but it’s the truth.
YES. Nobody talks about how children who aren’t “conventionally attractive” (Even typing that gives me the ick) ALSO get treated like shit like the “unattractive” adults. I was an obese, geeky child and adults always treated me like trash compared to the skinny kids.
I was a small child (neglect) and I vividly remember at age 6 my mom said she wished she could be as skinny as me and my extended family would constantly tell me to stop eating so much because eventually my metabolism would slow. Queue the next 15 years of restricting because of those comments. Why can't adults just leave children's bodies alone and just not make comments like that.
Or when people body shame kids. I’ve seen it on ig reels and TikTok before. Like leave them alone 😩
As a kid I was really close to my female cousin and even as a pre-teen I could see the difference in how I was treated vs her because I was naturally skinny and had conventionally attractive facial features while she was a bit chubbier. Somehow her acne was viewed as worse than mine even though arguably mine was worse (required prescription skin products). I didn't understand it and became very uncomfortable with people commenting on how pretty I was and on my "long legs" because it felt very undeserved. I didn't do anything except be born; she was the sister I never had to me and struggled with self-confidence well into adulthood, which broke my heart. We're not as close now, but seeing her grow into herself and gain that confidence- I am so happy for her. I never deserved the praise for my looks, and she definitely never deserved the comments on her chubbiness, or hearing family members compliment my looks and ignore her while she was standing next to me. Kids are treated differently, and 100% notice and learn that behavior even if they don't really understand it.
YOU GUYS NEED TO TAKE THE ⬛️💊, BECAUSE IT WILL PERFECTLY PUT INTO PLACE EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID (including the halo effect).
I realized this in high school, and we all know that personality is what really makes you a beautiful, but for me if someone hot has a shitty personality, it will literally morph the way I see them and they physically become ugly to me. And the same the other way around. I had a friend who I thought wasn't very attractive, but as I got to know her, her amazing personality changed the way I physically perceived her. The inside changes how you look on the outside, its not just emotional.
Agreed
Highly agreed
Yesss
Honestly it reminds me of that song from Rodgers and Hammersteins Cinderella basically saying "do I love you because you're lovely or are you lovely because I love you" I think it's really true the people who truly love you will think you're beautiful because they love you.
Most people don’t interact with strangers long enough to reveal deep personality, though
So if someone is reasonably polite and your interaction is superficial, they are scientifically proven to be treated better on average (helping them with directions, not enough money at a shop/bus boarding, holding a camera to take photos etc. etc.)
Long story short: personality helps, but the effects of attractiveness are undeniable
To put it simply:
You don't need to look “attractive”, you just need to look “presentable”.
The patriarchy dictates that 'presentable' for women is invisible makeup to cover flaws and zero body hair though
Yes it 100% depends how you present yourself
Agreed. I'm at my biggest weight ever but I get way more attention when I make an effort to wear something presentable in public. As opposed to my depression sweats and hoodie
I think what’s important is that the woman said: “not everybody is beautiful AND THAT’S FINE”.
She wasn’t trying to shame ugly people, she was like “it’s a reality that there are attractive and unattractive people in the world… and it shouldn’t matter because it’s not that important tbh”.
@@bambi9636 yeah, but “beautiful” means just that, fitting into beauty standards and you can absolutely understand it in context. It may vary from culture to culture, but you still are talking about beauty (which is obviously also subjective, but when talking about it in this context it means the beauty standard, not personal preferences).
I believe this "beauty is subjective" thing might actually be how women perceive beauty like they look at energy or something we can't see...because personally never could wrap my mind around it...but I know for sure because I have 4 sisters, and sometimes one of them thinks about one guy like "😍🥰" where the rest of them are like "Ehwwww!!!"...see you'll never find that happening with dudes...they'd never disagree this much over one woman...there is no way 2 guys would be like one thinks she's a charmer and the other guy thinks "Ehwww", that never happens.
@@wonyoungtoxicfansarehere I agree that men tend to be more superficial, but they do vary in their tastes. There are a lot of men who think curvy Black women are beautiful, and some men who think all Black women are ugly, and that petite light skin is the only think that's attractive. I've seen dudes debate this all the time when rating women. One Indian guy online was adamant about black girls being ugly and they have to accept that, while the black men and some white men found the black girls hot.
@@wonyoungtoxicfansarehere If a girl cheated on a guy or talked crap about men, will men still find her attractive, even if she's conventionally attractive?
I get what fannita was saying. She could've worded it better though. But the amount of hate she was getting was too much in my opinion.
i think her tone was the issue, she kinda had the tone of those racist dudebros that go 'well if more black people are going to jail for assault, i should have full right to avoid all black people' when what shes saying is completely true, she def coulda worded it to be more gentle
@@problemperson4221how else can you say that not everyone is beautiful without offending someone ☠️
@@chaeryeong991 not saying it like it's some controversial/unpopular opinion would've helped. That was no thing to say in an edgy way like that. Master tonal (and diction) empathy!
100%
True…but it’s CRAZY for Fannita to be saying this cause she’s not pretty at all. She’s AVERAGE….at best. It’s like the pot calling kettle black.😂😂🤣 Right message, wrong messenger.
I don't think it's insidious to say that not everyone is beautiful, I think it's insidious to say that it matters whether or not you're beautiful.
I've got skills and abilities that I've worked hard to develop, I would much rather be respected for what I do than what I look like. I can do the million dollar skin care routine, it won't stop me getting wrinkles. And as I age my value of a person doesn't decrease.
This is such a great comment! The problem is the focus we have as a society on beauty over character. It’s embarrassing we still let looks depict how we treat people.
this would be an okay take if beauty was magically occuring like eye color. beauty takes effort and skill. the second you can't work you'll realize that pinning your worth to anything you can lose is wild and dumb.
the secret is realizing that people respect you because of their own criteria, not whatever things you like about yourself. when you're old people won't care about your skills because our society doesn't value old people. what are you going to do then?
this isn't the route out.
@@namedrop721Beauty isn’t a talent or skill. MOST people you think are beautiful that aren’t on social media just wash their face properly and get a haircut once in a while. I know a crap ton of beautiful people from all over that literally did NOTHING for their straight teeth, lip shape, or face structure.
The only part of beauty that takes effort is working out and makeup. But NATURAL beauty literally is just genetics. Stop pretending it’s a long and hard journey. It’s only complicated because you make it that way.
Go touch some grass please. Breathe some fresh air once in a while.
The secret is realizing that respect shouldn’t come from beauty/face because it rarely tells you ANYTHING about them besides if they brush their teeth.
Growing up is realizing that respect should be the baseline for treating other humans. If they’re horrible to you, they lose that respect. Plain and simple. But just because someone is old or doesn’t have surgery doesn’t mean they’re unworthy of basic respect.
@@gromplin Thank you. These comments are banal. What kind of sad lives are these people living to think that way? Talking about the world doesn't value old people as if they won't get old themselves. Ridiculous
This is more difficult to women
people get offended when someone says “not everyone’s beautiful” because they hear “not everyone has value”. the problem isnt the idea that some people aren’t beautiful, the problem we conflate beauty with value
As a woman, I feel like being ugly kind if sets me free. Maybe it's a little more isolating, but that might be more of a the-call-is-coming-from-inside-the-house situation, because I just assume people don't want an ugly woman talking to them (high school is never really over). But I think if you ignore the social rule that beauty is a woman's only valuable currency, then people just become people. And then the confidence that comes from self-acceptance, ironically, becomes attractive.
"Just ignore the social rule" I love this mindset!
I know gen z thinks they are so progressive but they aren't and this is coming from someone who is gen z. Gen Z still puts so much emphasis on beauty. They make a new trend every week. One week, brown eyes are super popular. Another week, freckles are in. It's hard to keep up with the beauty standards because people are constantly changing it. The people who are doing this are all Gen Z. They determine what's popular but then they get upset when they don't meet the standards. We aren't meant to be perfect flawless beings but we are meant to respect everyone no matter how the look. We shouldn't value attractive people more or give them more respect simply because they meet those beauty standards.
It's also crazy how much people are obsessed with not aging. We are all getting older. It's completely unavoidable. No matter how hard we try our age will show.
Gen Z don't really "determine what's popular" though, it's the billionaire businesses that profit from insecurities
@@snem9381damn sure right
Gen Z falls down a new cult thanks to tiktok every other week
Yeah, everybody thinks they’re inclusive but they’re not 😣
I don't understand where the "Gen Z is progressive" stereotype came from. Gen Z is probably the most sexist generation yet, imo. Their obsession with beauty and anti-ageing is misogynistic and a lot of studies have proven that Gen Z men and boys have more regressive attitudes towards women than older men.
I think the best way to summarise it is that 'everyone can be beautiful to someone'
What matters is if you're beautiful to most people. Who cares if only Larry, on the other side of the globe, thinks you're beautiful? Just accept what you look like.
@@55CINCO55 One certainly benefits from being 'conventionally' attractive to the majority, I'm not denying that, and I agree that one can acknowledge one's place on the 'conventional' scale of beauty. But I also believe that the very personal, subjective nature of attraction to both looks and personality means that it's highly likely that there are people out there who will find you to be their 'type' and, to them, you are beautiful.
@@salore17 and one person finding you attractive is useful how??? Accepting what you look like is more valuable than seeking for validation in one person.
@@55CINCO55and what good is being an asshole to everyone in the comments section?
@@auggiemain Asshole? That's your opinion. I'm trying to help people.
You're correct. Looksmaxxing as a concept did originate on Incel forums. I remember scrolling through incel forums years ago, out of morbid curiosity, and learning those terms/phrases like "looksmaxxing", "mogging", "it's over for me/you" which are now popular on Tiktok. It's actually really gross that INCEL terminology is now a popular trend and people genuinely lean into it??
Right?? I am so shocked whenever I see these very niche incel terms used by people on TikTok and TH-cam unironically. It's def concerning
Incel terminology has widely affected people's vocabulary for a long time now, especially when it comes to online lingo. It's why people have started calling women/girls females more oftenly eventhough they're not incels and also make jokes about women's genitalia by calling them roasties among others.
@@nodmyhead6198 ugh yeah, I guess that makes sense :/
Omg ppl, and esp XX chromosomes, have always been apathetic towards mens’ issues, have always prioritized their emotions over mens’, and engage in platform-supported misandry in which the male equivalent would’ve resulted in deplatform cancellations & open ridicule/Iÿn. ch mobs
And now that only 50% of 0-18 y/os have ever dated & +1/3 of the young population since 2018 are berjens, they’re finally discovering the root underlying causes in banished communities (which are fertile grounds for edgy unmoderated speech).
*Surprise pikachu face*
@@nodmyhead6198 You don’t gotta assume the worst I mean I think the reason why a lot of men call women “females” is bc it’s the only word that describes both women and girls, while men have more words to describe both men & boys (for example guys, dudes, etc.)
Someone once said to live by your own beauty standards and that was so freeing for me... i love faces that wear acne like an accessory so i immediately stopped being insecure about my acne... i love how broad shoulders look on others so i learned to love how they look on me. Am i conventionally beautiful? No. But i love imperfections on others, so i started to love mine too.
I think the people that aren’t offended by what fannita said are attractive like yourself madisyn or just not bothered. Everyone that responded to the video you can tell felt personally attacked.
You're correct.
Truth hurts.
@@55CINCO55 Right. I’ve seen a few of your comments and I think I grasp your general perspective.
I’m in the unbothered category.
When you have a face that’s irreparably disfigured from several surgeries worth of cancerous tumor removals, you either adjust your mindset or you collapse under the weight of self pity.
Kids sometimes cry when they see me. Adults visibly squirm. Old folks try to pray for me. But I can’t be bothered to do anything to make anyone comfortable. I’m enjoying my life.
I’m truly privileged cause not everyone gets up off of that operating table. Absolutely nothing is guaranteed when it comes to cancer so why waste time worrying about my appearance?
As someone who is ugly I was not personally offended. I know my beauty doesn’t define my worth or how good of a person I am
@@iiiiii7739heavy on this😊
the line "i think it's very beautiful to look human" is something i really needed
i don't understand how so few people can see that every human being has some sort of beauty to them, whether it falls under conventional standards or not
Right like there are 7+ billion people on this earth. You might not be attractive to everyone but my god you will not be horrendously ugly to all of them either.
I agree with this whole heartedly. You could be the juiciest peach in the bunch and someone still just won’t like peaches. On the other hand, the same people may love the burnt edges of bread or meat (I’m also talking about myself. GOD I love the charred pieces). Humans can find beauty and meaning in anything. Regardless, there shouldn’t be a single thing stopping you from loving yourself. Just because you find yourself ugly doesn’t mean you don’t have worth.
i think that still doesn’t get at the root problem, the idea that beauty has any correlation to value. i think some people are absolutely ugly by all standards. imagine a person with nothing but physical deformities. a giant pile of mucus. they’re not beautiful. they’re just not. and that’s okay. not because “they’re beautiful on the inside” (ie. they’re worthy on the inside). but because they have INHERENT value by being a human being. regardless of how nice they are. regardless of good their personality is. a giant deformed blob of a person is still valuable, even if their personality sucks, because they’re a human being and they deserve empathy.
@@kipruto_ I love this. I couldn’t put anything nearly as eloquently as this, but yes
Everyone is not beautiful. Would you say a pedophile, or a serial killer is beautiful or that they have some sort of beauty hidden deep within them? No. Beauty is not in everyone and I hate how no one seems to want to admit it
What is missing in this generation is a strong sense of self bc ain’t no way ppl really living their lives according to trends. Body shapes are not trends and what’s “in” or “out” shouldn’t even be on ur minds. It doesn’t even matter in the real world
this is the first generation to grow up with social media. They are bombarded with the need to be perfect and create a perfect world all the time. They can't escape the need to conform. It's everywhere for them and it's social currency.
If you have a strong core, you are not so affected by the external. So we need to examine, why is parenting and society leading to people growing up to be so susceptible to peer pressure, social media , marketing?
@@manuuyt5919 I agree!
aging is a privilage not many of us will be able to reach, one thing I can add is that I feel more beautiful, confident and secure on just how Good I look more than I did in the age of 17 or 23
Yes, good comment. And I get what you mean about feeling differently with time and age. Once hormones calm down and you reach a Saturn return after about age 25/29, you usually stop getting so angsty about how you look and self-criticising physical features. Like I know I'm technically and aesthetically not as cute or perky or fit as I was at 17 or 21. However, at 30 I also don't have the energy to hate myself or beat myself up for possibly being an ugly mutant anymore. There's other life to live. The key is that I have to go out in the world and do something interesting with my life, and that's what's more beautiful and attractive than anything. And in the same way that I find some objectively average, goofy or questionable-looking people sexy for intangible reasons, there will be other people in the world who look at me the same way, and that's cool.
REAL ! i'm still in my early 20S but a lot of people need to let go of the idea that 20s have to be your prime be that in terms of beauty or life in general
@@hazaubel6532You know… I love this. As a person who’s turning 20 soon, I’ve been SO stressed about it because it feels like my timer is running out… But I love the thought of relaxing with age and not forcing it to be so formulaic or pleasing to someone else
Omg just shut tf up. “Aging is a privilege” is the most repetitive, brain dead phrase I see all the fucking time and it’s stupid. To live is to suffer, who tf wants to suffer? Aging is not a “privilege”, it just is what it is. You’re no Camus or Dostoevsky so stop acting like it
What a nice mindset
I babysit for this girl who’s an only child with a single mother. As you can expect she’s pretty spoiled and her house was always filled with toys. But now that she’s in like 6th grade she went from having Elsa merchandise to having an $80+ skincare routine and a dozen body scrubs in her bathroom. It was honestly kinda sad watching her act like an 18 year old
Witnessing the downfall of humanity in real time.
Unpopular opinion but I don’t think it’s wrong for tweens to have skin care products or body scrubs. When I was that age I had acne so obviously I used skin care products. You’re never too young to have basic hygiene 😭
@@Ghostfacebaby99I agree, but we all need the phase to have the crappy products lol
@@living.wasteland1189 why do we “need” a phase when people can just get educated about good products? 😭 we have the internet now. No one “needs” a phase where they use crappy products for there skin not even children. If she knows what works best for her then let her use it.
I don’t really think it’s acting like an 18 year old to use body scrubs and skincare products though. A routine that expensive for a middle schooler is a little ridiculous, but I know people who started basic skincare routines in 8th grade because of acne.
Plus lots of middle school girls are really into places like Bath and Body Works because the products smell good and it’s like playing spa day. When I was in middle school, it was pretty common for girls to want stuff like sugar scrubs and bath bombs for their birthdays. Granted, this was in a pretty white upper-middle class area. But I think middle schoolers just like cosmetics because they’re fun.
Always remember: if a little kid calls you pretty/handsome then you ARE attractive, little children are very honest and sometimes brutally straightforward.
BS, they are also influenced by everything, a child in the 1930 would say only blond with blue eyes are pretty, jews are ugly... and so on.
Ehhh… I thought certain actors were ugly as a kid that I now don’t think so at all
IDK about this, I had a kid call me ugly because I was wearing a mask during 2020 in an anti vax neighborhood. Kids are dumb sometimes.
Little kids tell me I look like a Disney Princess 🫠
Not really my little cousins are taught to say certain people are ugly or pretty
As a 15 year old I didn't even see the obsession kids my age have with beauty and attractiveness until I was in it. I thought it was just normal and that everyone did this. I still struggle with body dysmorphia, but at one point it got super bad and I finally just deleted tiktok for a few months. Literally felt better in like a week and I've been able to use it more healthily since then.
i've felt the same way about a lot of the social media we use these days. i've been off tiktok for that same reason and i think instagram makes me feel this way too. it's not even the things that people post.. it's the comments that everyone makes about everyone's face and body and it sickens me. granted.. if you are posting yourself to the entire world of course there are people with opinions but now it seems like everyone just wants to point out everything wrong with you as they are acting in some grandiose way that their ego makes them better than you. it's tiring.. yes we can all have opinions. some odd years ago we used to mind our business and keep to ourselves.
Happy for you 💛☺️
honestly it’s all about what you interact with (not that i’m like “yOu NeEd Tt”). i used to see stuff like this in 2020, but havnt in years (other than people critiquing it). my tiktok is all outdoors, music, psychology, dogs, and true crime now lmao. same with instagram! and i love food videos as well, and now i can watch one and can tell if its just plain diet culture (and should press “im not interested”) or one i should be watching. doesn’t happen over night, but as someone who does enjoy social media, and someone who’s gen Z (although an 03) and everyone ik is on it, i did want to keep tiktok and instagram
@@brookejamieson1523 Thanks, I totally forgot I made this comment but that is true! I just scroll when I see stuff like that and I've been doing so much better
ik this entire video is about beauty, but can we just talk abt how beautiful madisyn looks rn. UR RADIATING.
When isn’t she though? Like, if I were still hella insecure I would hate her.. bahahaha. I’m still insecure but I just don’t hate women that I would kill to look like anymore.
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@@KreatureCargeauxcharacter development
Lol people’s remarks just prove her point.. “oh well you’re one to speak.” Yeah it wasn’t the most well put statement but it was genuine and she not wrong. Basically, everyone has a type and there ain’t nothing wrong with that.
Yep yep. Basically it's-- the same people who claim "everyone is beautiful" can be the same people who turn around and immediately go "oh you're one to speak" while judging and pointing out your flaws.
It's difficult enough to simply be alive.
I like to practice the mindset of “My beauty and value are in no way comparable. My worth lives in my kindness, my love and the reflection of me found in the hearts of others”.
I hate the everyone is beautiful speech because in real life thats not true. If youre ugly people treat you extremely different than if you're beautiful.
"Everyone is beautiful" just so happens I treat people differently based on what they look like.
@55CINCO55 Everyone is beautiful to someone. Like okay... I understand that the people in my 600 lb life are married. But we all know they're treated differently because of the way they look.
Why is lying okay?
@@skyrab87 It was sarcasm, I was making fun of the people that say that, which is why it's in quotes.
@@55CINCO55 no I know. I was just adding on.
@@skyrab87 Gotcha.
I used to visit looksmaxx subreddits a lot before and many members are too fixated with every single feature of their look even if they're not noticeable. They're very eurocentric too. Those objective rate celebs are worst too because if any celeb don't look like or similar to Adriana Lima or Monica Bellucci they're basic and below 7 objectively based on their standards.
I used to go on those Reddit's too and never in my life have I felt more insecure about my face than then! I think I probably developed body/facial dysmorphia from it too. I feel like there are some positive posts in there about how a lot of people's facial features just suit their face and the reason why people look worse with plastic surgery is because they unbalanced their facial harmony but saying Adriana Lima and Monica Bellucci are like the pinnacle of beauty (although they have great facial harmony) is still damaging to people who aren't their ethnicity. There are a lot of BIPOC that still have the same great facial proportions, just not the blue eyes or the perfect golden skin, straight long hair, etc, and it somehow seems to make them less attractive... smh. For example, Lori Harvey has very similar facial features and proportions as Adriana (even a tinier nose), yet in those posts, they call her a 6-7 because she looks "boring" like what?
They rate attractive people very low and nitpick every flaw. Most incels and people who post on those forums aren't even ugly.
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I used to visit those subreddits when my depression and body dysmorphia were at their worst. Despite having been in long-term relationships, having dated men, receiving compliments from people and having received romantic attention in general, I became convinced that I was a 1/10 because of stupid fucking reasons like my philtrum being 0.3mm too long, my eyes being slightly downturned etc. I thought that I looked like some sort of alien or ogre: so ugly that I was inhuman. Nowadays I am able to look at myself more objectively. Yes, my philtrum might not be the ideal length, but all I see looking back in the mirror is an average, normal looking woman with healthy skin and features that work well TOGETHER. Before, I was so obsessed with every single individual feature on its own that I failed to notice the big picture. Those subreddits are genuinely insidious.
@@ILoveEverything247I avoid subreddits based on rating attractiveness like the plague. just full of white incels who will rate anyone who doesn't fit their unrealistic and very euro-centric beauty standards as low. and yet half of them would be called unattractive if they did a face reveal smh.
This was so good. I feel like as an adolescent/teen I had to adjust from being the awkward nerd to suddenly being seen as a sexual object - on top of being self-conscious & addicted to the male gaze/validation ; it was definitely a transformation I had to cope with in healthy ways
middle school and early high school were definitely tough. it’s so difficult to notice how different people treat you when you start to look better.
Do you know who needs plastic surgery? People with deformaties, burn victims etc. You as a regular person with a nose that is a little crooked and a face that is a little rounder than would be ideal do not need plastic surgery to have a good time on this planet. You can still travel, have hobbies, read, eat delicious food, go to the movies etc. without being the best looking person on the planet. Don't give up the face you have been growing up with and that is familiar to you as distinctly you just because some people have complaints. They are not worth your time anyway. All the money and time and effort you spend on looking beautiful to others you could be spending on making life beautiful to you. You could be practicing the guitar instead of lasering away your armpit hair. You could be eating pizza in Italy instead of getting bucal fat removal. You could take an art class instead of buying makeup. Who cares about these superficial people? They are way too busy thinking about what you think of them and their appearance anyway.
This comment is incredibly healing ❤thank you for sharing your thoughts
Yes i need it
@@geohatz4838 💞
It's easier to say not to give up the face which may have caused the person a lot of heart ache and issues through out their entire life. I think it's OK to tweak your features a little bit here and there, if that makes that person more confident, why not? Just don't try to change your entire face with the passing trends, because those change ALL the time.
Maybe the secret is to do both? Enjoy life and cultivate a good aesthetic too (I'm saying this as someone who is lazy with aesthetic by the way 😂)
your cuteness is just a bonus, girl. we’re here for the intellect 💯
agree!
Personally, I’ve noticed a change in how people treat me based on how I present myself. When I put effort into my looks, it's like a whole different vibe compared to the times I just don’t bother. I wish society didn’t put so much weight on appearances, but the truth is, how you look often shapes how people see and treat you.
Ther term looksmaxing was coined case fragile masculinity can’t take the girly terms like “glow up” / “beautifying” / “beauty routine”
Lmao what nonsense
Yapping
Sis ain't wrong though.
I don't know who she is but I definitely agree with what she said.
People who say looks don't matter really haven't utilized it or just don't have it or those who did have it don't got it no more and feel some type of way.
You have to admit beauty is currency. Social currency.
Has been since the dawn of time. It is not a new phenomenon.
And the system that supports it is not gonna make it go away anytime soon.
I agree. Beauty is currency so why not put effort in and reap the benefits 🤷🏽♀️
@@azaria4447 Right?? Like give me $1million and I can make it work with just less and use the rest to elevate my life!
......so that makes it right to talk to people like this or treat people worse? This is a horrible take. Just because it's social currency doesn't mean it's a horrible system. The fact we keep perpetuating these standards are WHY it's still social currency.
@@nicky923nk I didn't say all that
I'm saying if you're given an opportunity to be beautiful even for a day TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT OR SOMEONE ELSE WILL!!!
SOMEONE LIKE ME!! LOL!!!
@@nicky923nkthey are talking about the statement: not everyone is physically beautiful. So stop with equating that telling people off or being mean. That's not what the commenter or the original video says ... Stop reaching and getting defensive
I can see where Fannita was going, but she definitely could’ve explained it better
i think she was put at a disadvantage bc it was just a clip that went viral. i couldn’t find the full podcast to see if she elaborated more.
@@MadisynBrown I agree.But I also think she could’ve started this whole convo differently, like “I think it’s fake to say “everyone is beautiful on the outside ”” or “a lot of people are hypocritical about this”. Don’t get me wrong I am not trying to blame her for saying it or defend people who send her hate(they literally proved her point lol). She could start explaining first and then getting to the point. That way people people couldn’t rip it out of context.
@@MadisynBrownthis is the problem with tiktok clipping, people only see a portion of the argument and base all their opinions on a few seconds of a podcast, without even seeing the full conversation or context
It was pretty clear what she meant though, why do we have to dumb down everything?
@@salomerodriguez5145based comment.
This is a side note. I love seeing young black women succeed on this app ❤️❤️ keep going girlllll
I agree with you but TH-cam is a website
Whatever happened to average looking? I'm Gen X. I can remember there was beautiful, cute, average, plain, ugly and the cruelly named f-ugly. Everything doesn't have to be so drastic. Most people are average in looks, intelligence and talent. Also don't forget attractive and sexy. You can be outside the conventional beauty standards and still be attractive and or sexy. These are intangible qualities. I've gotten to know quite a few "Ugly guys", and looked up suddenly to think, "Damn, you're sexy!"
Bc you weren’t raised in the tindferno era
to be fair, how do we even Indetify "pretty" and "ugly" without relying on toxic beauty standards? they say there are people who are "objectively ugly" but i really wonder how did they come up with such a conclusion, i never liked the idea of changing my looks for a trend, because ironically what used to be " ugly " back then is considered desirable nowadays ( for example everyone disliked thick bodies in the 80s and preferred thin, flat extremely skinny body types, it's crazy how the tables have turned now and BBL became desirable. )
i do believe beauty is a social currency and that pretty privilege exists, but it still makes me wonder why people looked at a certain facial/body type and decided it's the *only* beautiful thing in today's standards yk???
edit : help i just realized madisyn just mentioned the exact same example, i typed this comment before even i watched the video 😭
How do you identify "pretty" and "ugly"? WITH YOUR EYES GENIUS.
@@55CINCO55why are you obsessed with hating?
@@auggiemain Hating? It's just entertaining to see the many ways people cope in these comments.
@@55CINCO55 of course with our eyes, it seems like you didn't even understand my question, maybe you should work on your reading comprehension skills 🤷♀️
i want you to define "ugly" without upholding the current beauty standards, what do you consider beautiful? maybe think about it deeper because people have different tastes and everything is subjective. what you may consider beautiful is considered ugly by a lot of beauty standards and people, but obviously i don't expect people like you to understand
@@55CINCO55 nobody is coping, this is just a basic discussion of a topic that affects everyone nowadays. you're emotionally immature if you thought about it like that, maybe get off the internet and touch grass? you seem judgemental
i think what drives me insane is like. you don't HAVE to find everyone beautiful, but like you also don't have to call the people you don't find beautiful ugly. like you just don't have to say anything! you could keep that shit to yourself maybe! Like damn i find allot of people who are "beautiful" to be the ugliest dolls I have ever seen, while some of the people /I/ personally find attractive are considered "ugly" by greater society. I like fat muscular men, but i cant stand looking at body builders or like movie ripped guys. But im not gonna go and strart telling the plastic girls and the body builder guys theyre ugly like????? really?????????????????
Same. Everyone if beautiful to enough people whether you think so or not
Saaaame🤣 I think muscular guys look 😀😬 yeah
Honestly, but when someone like the conventional look they have to let EVERYONE know. I was roommates with a guy and he kept “making sure” I wasn’t falling for him or upset he wouldn’t date a “fat girl” and like boy, I think you’re a pos please don’t worry, your neo-nazi white hair blue eyes do not turn my fat ass on 😂😂😂
When i think abt looks, I sort ppl into my type and not my type which is, to me, a neutral statement and is only about what I like not what you are
I mean to be fair she should've said it in a nice tone or use quotation marks. I think her message is more like "ugly" should be a normal word. Because normal people are considered "ugly" compare to beauty standards
The sad part is the obsession has pushes to some of them looking older sadly.
The 13yr olds trying to look 30 then don’t realize that’s gonna have a negative affect on your skin, which of course is what the makeup and surgery industry wants because it means you’ll buy more at 20, 30, 40 etc
Everyone is not beautiful. And humans are very superficial. These are universal truths that will always get backlash no matter who says it. If an ugly person says it, they'll get criticised for being ugly and calling others ugly. If a pretty person says it, they'll be criticised for being mean and conceited and will also have people calling them "not pretty enough." It's a harsh truth.
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i defeniteky think beauty is a combination of wealth, genes and choices you make daily
It helped me to understand that beauty is a system of inequality and oppression and it's intentional that not everyone is going to be able to attain access to that system. This also helped me understand that there is a difference between beauty and attractiveness. Beauty is a series of specific physical traits that white supremacist patriarchal capitalism deems worthy of commodification, and attractiveness is any trait that any person finds desirable and that can vary from person to person.
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Beauty is something your brain perceives based on how light interacts with an object lol. People love blaming "white supremacy" for everything lmao.
lol what? beauty as a concept has existed since the beginning of time in literally every race and culture. people have always gone to extremes for beauty (bound feet in China or putting poisonous belladonna drops in your eyes), and it has nothing to do with intentional oppression. humans are just weird.
@@CatharticCreation both of these things can be true at the same time. Beauty as a concept is different than beauty as a system. Historically, beauty as a system has been almost entirely linked to wealth and white supremacy/colonization.
Loved your input on this conversation. Def an important convo we need to keep having!
Oh shut up
I definitely miss the 60s and 70s when everyone looked so effortless and not the same
I’m so glad you talked about the weird hyper fixation on tiny facial structure patterns and those sorts of things, because out of everything in the crazy beauty world that has always made the least sense to me.
Why are people so focused on things that you need a filter or mathematical equations to even notice? Like you said, people need to just look in a mirror, because absolutely nobody in real life is doing algebra for your face to judge your looks.
I think what she says is true. Not everyone is attractive. But that is because of the trends that depending on the time of year, some people look more attractive than others.
I love your content and how you explain things. You're amazing ❤
Sounds like a cope. 😂 Beauty is a constant, a diamond is beautiful today and it will be beautiful a millennium from now.
@@55CINCO55a diamond is also a rock and not a human person so yk bad analogy
@55CINCO55 Other countries see beauty as different same with culture some countries love fat noses others don't some love curvy people others love fat body's beauty is different for everyone you maybe seen so beautiful in France but if ypu go to Germany you won't be seen as beautiful probably seen as ugly to them or average. The beauty is just social contrition the reason lots of beauty industry happen was to make sure that mostly women and feminine people always felt they needed to change their appearance to fit in even decades ago beauty was different same in Victorian time.
@@auggiemain A diamond is an object, like humans are.
@@autumnqueen6115 Humans find the same things attractive everywhere on the planet.
As a 17 y/o I am obsessed with being beautiful. I want to be beautiful at all times, with or without make up and I am never satisfied I always want to be more beautiful to the point I pray to become more beautiful and have listened to subliminals because I was so desperate to be more beautiful and I struggle with it til this day cuz every second I think about becoming and being more beautiful and being upset by not thinking I am, it’s like what do I have to do to stop thinking this way. I always compare myself to girls on the Internet and celebrity’s ( it’s not their fault this is just our society and their living up to the standards just as I am) and I hate myself even more because of not looking like them and I can’t stop. I always seek approval and validation from people for my beauty ig but I’m just destroying myself more n more and I am not ready to accept myself as I am I literally refuse to do so cuz I don’t wanna look like this, I like believe I can do better but I can’t just magically change my facial features and I literally don’t kno what to do. I am literally fighting against myself so dang much. I am stuck so much so that I don’t take photos of myself or let people take photos, videos and etc. and I have completely lost my self-worth to the point where that everything that is good for me I won’t give it to myself. I lost the urge to care for myself, I don’t care about my grades, I don’t care about hobbies, chores, I don’t care about loving myself and etc. I don’t care and I want to care but i can’t get myself to…i just want my self-worth back so I don’t have to constantly stress about beauty and do good things for myself I just want to live like that. Man this is a huge a$$ rant. Take care everybody may God bless u all. Jesus loves you :))
My situation similar your story. I don't know, is God exist, but people judge your face and my. I want to have plastic surgery. You can do it too.
@@ashasha451 hey, wrote this a month ago. I wasn’t in a good place but what I can tell you is that I’m trying to work on myself and I’d recommend you do too. If you settle for plastic surgery then do it but I believe true satisfaction with yourself comes from within and you have to gain it, no doctor is going to give that to you plus it’s expensive and just really not worth it not just because of the money but just because you’ll never love your true self but just a facade, a mask, you have to be ready to love yourself, to think your beaut And not rely on other people to do that and I tell you everything will follow, people will see it and believe it. God is very real he helps me, he loves me, he’s saved me. If you follow Jesus life is not going to be perfect but hell guide you, love you and protect you trough it he’s going or has saved you, you just have to accept it. You’re very beautiful and that’s a fact that is written in the Bible. I love you very much.
God bless you I hope you’re doing a lot better now cuz it’s amazing what He can do
botox is the lead based makeup of the modern age. its slowly changes your face and you eventually need more and more.
botox is meant to be to stop people with muscle disorders having muscle spasms. The beauty industry has just bastardised it.
Exactly lol. And you can’t even say it’s lack of knowledge, like I’m pretty sure the people of the past didn’t actually know that lead was toxic. Meanwhile we’re just knowingly injecting ourselves with BOTulism neuroTOXin aka the most deadly naturally occurring poison known to humans. 🫠
Shes not wrong. People who say everyone is beautiful are trying so hard to be holier than thou and saintly. 95% of the population is average, 3% are likely "ugly" and the last 2% are the people who won the genetic lottery, have the finances to get the work done or to do the work (gym, skin care, clothes, lifestyle). Its not that deep. And its goofy that people think that theyre entitled to being lumped in with that top 2%. I'm probably a 7, an 8 when I get dolled up and thats totally fine with me. Personal freedom is accepting you're not a 10 and being comfy with that.
Those percentages are insanely off, it's more of a bell curve. Statistically you're probably a 5, so average.
@@55CINCO55exactly, I hate when people rate themselves a seven/eight lol
Facts dude. Whenever ppl say shit like that I just always think they’re being fake. Like… you can’t tell me you walk down the street & you’re like “omg! I can’t believe how beautiful every single person is!” Nahhh dude. Nahh… stfu w/ your fake ass shit. I’m not saying you gotta go around & call ppl ugly. But don’t lie & say dumb shit. We’re not all beautiful. Period.
@missmia196 you can think someone is ugly or even unattractive but they're allowed to think they're pretty and attractive. It's weird to want to bring down someone's self esteem.
@@auggiemain Why are they linking their self esteem to how attractive they think they are in the first place?
If everyone's beautiful, nobody is beautiful. Beauty is an outlier, that's what makes it attractive.
Most people are attractive in my opinion, so I wouldn’t really refer to beauty as an ‘outlier’.
Sometimes, I am so happy I am middle aged now. When I was in my 20s everyone was a mess! 😁we all had our natural hairs and hair color, more or less natural eyebrows, some cheap make up pretty much only when we go out at night and wore plain jeans and sweaters or t-shirts. We totally didn't have such narcistic obsession with our looks and visual presentation. No one cared to look if we had butts or mouth that are in fashion, do we pass some "measures" on face, or threw insane amounts of money into clothes, let alone stupid unnecessary procedures (in 20s, maybe after 45) like botox or fillers. What is wrong with generation Z???? They are making themselves really unhappy.
Been thinking about this recently. With social media, people are always trying to look their best with makeup or natural beauty. I feel like the beauty standards have gone through the roof.. and has really affected women and men too
I was struggling w physical appearance a lot A LOT when I was a teenager. Fannita’s comment really struck a nerve I was like “excuse me?”😂 then I realized, I’m not the person I was when I was a teen. I have the money n time n mindset to take care of myself. I look hella good. Nobody can tell me otherwise
Purr, self care rlly is a confidence booster
My mother was a beautiful woman who would not let me wear makeup until I was 16 because she said it would ruin my skin. When I was 13 though, the Mary Kay lady visited and my mom let her wash my face so I could get my first facial care regimen. It was just cleanser and lotion that I ended up getting that day and it was so special. I've had a skincare regimen since that time, but I didn't get "serious" about it (eye cream, serums, makeup store products instead of drug store products, etc.) until I was in my mid twenties, spa facials in my 30s, now I'm in my 40s and get vitamin IVs and microneedling every other month. While that progression might seem like a bit much to some I think it's closer to normal than 14 year olds using serum and sheet masks and my regimen focuses more on my actual skin than changing my face. I do think beauty is a choice insofar as the average and up person is concerned. The average person with a fairly symmetrical and fairly well proportioned face can absolutely turn themselves beautiful through lifestyle changes, makeup is they choose to go that route, and self care routines. Everyone is not conventionally beautiful, though, and that's OK. I know I'm not attractive to everyone I meet and at 40, I'm grateful for that lol. What's not okay is treating people a way because they're not pleasing to your eye.
The Canthal tilt trend genuinely had me confused asf like why are you letting a filter determine your appearance 😭
Eating right, moving ur body, styling ur self, building confidence n cleansing ur soul will go a long way.
I look at it as a chicken or the egg situation. If beauty is in the eye of the beholder, then that means everyone on this plant has an equal opportunity to be both beautiful and ugly. So yes, not everyone is pretty, but also, not everyone is ugly. Because, again, it’s all dependent on who is looking. So everyone yes, Everyone is beautiful because there’s 8billion opportunities for someone to see you as such😂 everything is just so silly sometimes 🥰😂
Beauty is youth and good proportions, let's not lie to ourselves. An old person or an obese one, or a huge nose for ex, or what have you, will never be seen as beautiful. It's instinctive how we perceive it. But you all can lie to yourselves.
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@@anka6356I think big noses are cute. Big foreheads to 😊. That's how I perceive it and I can't lie to myself. Beauty is ultimately always subjective.
@@anka6356 but who’s to say I’m lying, it’s literally common sense?😂 see that’s what I’m saying, you cannot say that out of 8 BILLION people on earth that not One likes old people (many do! I’m positive there’s some *orn out there involving it lol) or obese people (they call themselves feeders😅) or someone with a big nose (dude, Kylo Ren has whole ass fanfics dedicated to that feature lmao). It’s not a lie, it’s just not being brainwashed by society and allowing yourself to be told what you’re allowed to find good looking. Don’t be so silly😂
@@anka6356 I’ve seen you comment this a few times on other peoples comments but I think you’re just assuming that everyone has a shallow outlook on appearances as you do
i’m glad your relationship with food is better!! i’m going through that transition now and it is a chore, so i’m glad you got through it happily 🎉
I’m 24 and since I’ve had acne from very young age (10), I was always obsessed with skincare and makeup. But for last few months, I fell into this loophole of TikTok “self-care, anti-aging, anti-wrinkles, cosmetic procedures” and I started feeling self conscious again. Few weeks ago, I was talking to my colleagues in work who are basically 2 years older than me, we were just talking about how tired we are and I spilled that I genuinely feel old and think about it every two months. They were absolutely speechless, trying to comfort me and then I realized there’s genuinely something very wrong with how we are obsessed with outer beauty and youth.
As a radfem (listen!) I’m exposed to a lot of deep incel spaces where they talk a lot of hating their looks to the point where I learned their code words for beauty procedures and I was glad those losers didn’t have much influence in saner society.
You could imagine my shock when I logged into tiktok one day and saw women using the canthal tilt filter, girls posting about phrenology and how you’re ugly because your jawline isn’t 45 degrees and digging into your ear, mogging and fogging, looksmaxxing tutorials and I was floored because these were all incel dogwhistles and whoever brought them up definitely had to be in their spaces to learn them but now ignorant girls are already reclaiming it and it’s like they WANT to continue creating problems so they never ever like themselves
Also this makes it difficult to weed out incels who are a t*rrorist threat in case anyone forgot!
Incels are a terrorist threat for pointing out the nature of beauty? 😂 It's over.
Radfem = would sdelete-in game- 3 x over if they lived the life of a guy
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Gals can be ⬛️💊ed too. But every time I mention it, my cmnt keeps getting 🚮
Hi! Your comment is interesting ....were the incels talking about their own looks, were they critizcing women;s?
In an idealistic world looks should not matter, someone’s intelligence should. But we don’t live in an idealistic world so unfortunately what she said is true. Me personally I’ve never been attractive to anyone even now while I’m in college and it really affects me mentally and despite me trying to do what the other girls do I still don’t get called pretty or asked out etc, that’s something I’m just gonna have to come to terms with and learn to be okay living my life alone
Hey as someone else who never got compliments or hit on throughout high school and college you have to remember 2 things: 1. Nothings stopping you from asking someone out instead of being asked out and 2. Just because you don't have a romantic partner doesn't mean you have to be alone. Friendships are super important to having a fulfilling life and I have plenty of family members who never got married and instead invested in their neices and nephews and friends (my mom invites my great aunt to all our holiday parties and I would rather her be there than my own grandma that's how much I love her)
Yep, thats human nature and you can't do anything about it. Humans biologically don't like unattractive. Period.
Welcome to the average guy's world.
13:47 i agree with this a lot, because 2 years ago when I started a new school I got glasses and I was treated way different than before. I thought it was because my new classmates were rude but it wasn’t till I had more of an “ glow up” the next grade that I gained so many friends. Literally I was on one of the girls in my classes “hate list” because she thought I was weird and looked like a nerd. But now when I grown up she starts treating me like I’m her friend.
I really hate how much we decide to treat people and decide what they’re worth based on their appearance. You can still be a shitty person while attractive and still be a kind person while unattractive. It’s about what’s on the inside and not outside. No matter what beauty standards tell you, you are beautiful. Doesn’t matter if people doesn’t frame you as “attractive” it doesn’t make you less beautiful. Everyone has their own beauty and there shouldn’t only be one type. We are not supposed to decide whether ppl are pretty or not, instead we should learn to find OUR beauty in OURSELVES. And to learn to love ourselves.
A part of the Looksmaxxing community also has a big community called Hardmaxxing, which is purely about surgery, but usually for people who are normal looking, and its so so weird.
Its very very body dysmorphic. It reminds me a lot of the pro-ana forums and tumblrs back in the day.
Also Gen Z has accidentally got into phrenology lol.
turning 27 last week, i’m just excited to be at a point where i’m happy with myself physically and i feel like i age and become more beautiful, not less.. i’ve been fat and been skinny and been midsize and the more i treat myself neutrally the less weight i put on beauty.. honestly a privilege in this time of being constantly sold the idea that you’re ugly and MUST fix it with x y or z product
I agree with her ngl. Like everyones beautiful and beauty is subjective are kind of exclusive thoughts. If everyone is beautiful then beauty cant be subjective and if beauty is subjective then everyone isnt beauiful. Also if beauty is subjetive then shes ALLOWED to think people arent beautiful. It kind of also goes with body neutrality. Some people are ugly anf that IS okay. I consider myself to be ugly and seeing conventionally attractive people say "everyone is beautiful" never helps me feel less insecure. This is a sentiment Ive seen shared among my ugly peers. I dont think shes mean, I think she just isnt lying to everyone to be nice. She doesnt think everyone is beautiful or attractive, and thats fine. Shes not even saying that her opinion is like God, and that only people she thinks are attractive are attractive, shes just saying some people aren't.
I don't see the contradiction. To me, everyone is beautiful means everyone is beautiful to someone which is perfectly compatible with beauty being subjective. Even if everyone is beautiful to someone, some looks will be more widely received than others. That's the disparity ppl have a hard ti,e reckoning with
@@tangoblast7614 okay but "everyone is beautiful" is different from "everyone is beautiful.. to someone"
@@auggiemain idk that's just how I see it. Different statements but logical equivalent depending on how we are keeping track of what makes someone beautiful. Beauty isn't an imutable quality. There isn't any person who 100% of people would rate as conventionally attractive because there are different standards all around the world. Beauty is judgment. People finding someone beautiful is what allows them to be categorized as such. If everyone is beautiful to someone, then everyone is beautiful.
Re: fillers/botox --- as a woman in my 30s (hello gen z youtube), i see it differently than maybe an early-20-something. for me once i felt i started having some visibe aging i absolutely became open to it, did it, and am happy with the decision. everyone is different but until i experienced my own face aging i didn't know how weird it could feel. i still look like myself, just no more eye bags~
from the outside, i see a lot of very young people preaching non-judgement, then are the first to judge cosmetic procedures (not that madisyn is). like "i'd never do that" etc... like you're 22, don't talk to me about it until you start getting your own wrinkles! Lol
Wow. I’ve been watching a hole lot of video essays the past few days, but this one man is another level!
So so much that I feel packed in this one video, I think I haven’t related to something this much in a while.
The amount of research and knowledge that goes in to these videos is insane.
As someone who was always the “fat friend” and recently lost 50 pounds I can confirm everything you’re saying about the way people look at a person differently post weight loss.
as someone with an eating disorder don’t even get me started on the stupidity of starvemaxxing 🤦♀️
The canthal tilt just looks like a guide line I would draw as an artist figuring out the direction someone’s face is looking. Like what.
we’re actually a lot more attractive then we think. remember that. also, usually when someone gets a new haircut, or clothing style, they just naturally glow up. ive never seen an objectively ugly person and i likely never will.
It really is true that you don't know what you really look like until you're done growing. I used to have big ass wide cheekbones that I hated bc they made my face look fat AF til in my late teens when I had my wisdom teeth removed and my face lost baby fat. And I shit you not- my face shape and jawline completely changed and corrected itself. I was shocked at the time how much teeth play a role in facial structure because I wasn't expecting that- I was just getting those painful mfs out my mouth. But point is, just relax and give your body time. Because even besides my experience, I've seen many people blossom totally naturally once they reach full maturity and learn how to style and take care of themselves. And even if you don't transform- just be clean, confident, and kind. You'll probably never be a model, but you will look good regardless.
Not everyone is beautiful or equal.
Life is not fair. The Truth hurts.
Based.
Beauty is just the word humans use to describe genetic quality. Life becomes much easier when viewed through the lense of biology as opposed to society
@@zyyl1949 Not too sure about that definition, humans perceive beauty in non-human objects and even the intangible.
@@55CINCO55 Of course aesthetics is different and can be applied to things like stars at night, even landscapes etc. When we say beauty in regard to a human all we’re essentially saying is we perceive them to have high quality genetics worthy of replicating.
@@zyyl1949 I'm talking about "beauty" not sexual attraction. A tall man isn't "beautiful" but he's sexually attractive because of genetics. I think you're confusing beauty and sexual attraction.
The stress of aging is gonna end up aging you. Stress is no joke. Oh yeah and you are very right about sleep
i love how real you are omg its such a breath of fresh air
her voice is so calming
I think even just getting your clothes tailored to fit your body or to hang on you in a pleasant way can make u more attractive so i definitely agree with the idea that money can make you more attractive even in ways normal people (ie not rich rich rich people) understand bc theyve never had access to that kind of wealth
So many of those accounts is just glamorized phrenology.
Madisyn's skin is absolutely gorgeous!!!
Its also important to note that other factors can effect how "beautiful" you look. I am told by friends and strangers how they think I'm beautiful but I do NOT photograph well. I always look crazy in pics, I'm not comfortable in front of a camera. People have told me that my pics dont really capture how I look in person. But I've known people I would consider "ugly" in person that look so gorgeous in photos.
The thing to remember is that nobody looks beautiful all the time. Beauty is relative IMO. Your 10/10 look may not be the same as someone else's 10/10.
I think it's important at the end of the day is to remember that the beauty industry doesn't want you to be beautiful. The whole point of a "beauty standard" is to give you an idea that if you pay enough money for certain products that you can be beautiful too. Anyone can be beautiful just like anyone can be ugly, except with the whole "beauty trend" thing, you could be pretty and change nothing about yourself and you could be considered ugly the next day. People put value into things that are considered hard to obtain, and once something is easily obtainable (like bbls or boob jobs), it becomes trendy to do the opposite (natural bodies coming back into style, the kardashians taking out their implants, etc). If everyone got surgery to meet a certain beauty standard, there would immediately be a new trend that makes people feel ugly again for the sole purpose of getting money out of them.
Point is, not everyone is beautiful because there is a societal beauty standard that changes often, but everybody has inherit worth and value that disregards trends focusing on physical appearances.
My 14 yo daughter is upset that she has ”baby face” and not like her friends/influencers that at her age look more mature. I told her that she has my genes and I have my mothers genes. We do have ”baby face” until in our 20’s. Then we grow in to our face and look very young for a very long time. I told her that if you are at your peak (looks wise) in middle school then it is all down hill from there 😂 I showed her some pictures of me in my early/mid 20’s and I looked 12 😂 she really started to think a bit differently after that. She is a child and there is nothing wrong with that. ❤ it is scary to think how early kids want to grow up and look like an adult. I tell her that all she should be doing is have a good skin care routine, use spf and do’nt fry herself in the sun with our very fair, slightly ginger skin type. She does not need tons of makeup or lipfillers (not kidding a few her friends get fillers at 14!!!!)
All of this coming from a beautiful woman like yourself. I could watch you talk about anything girl not bc you are gorgeous but it’s bc you are so well spoken and intelligent and I really love the awareness you bring to societal trends.
since i started trying to separate inner beauty and outer beauty in how i look at things, ive started seeing things very differently, especially "beautiful" things. i've started seeing outer beauty as an honestly very limiting thing. something that takes up a tremendous amount of time and effort, and that frequently cuts you off from many of life's most wondrous sensations. these tiktok hyperanalysis trends really put a spotlight on this, but the way so many people now obsess about angles and lighting and have 12 step skin care routines and follow starvation diets and don't move naturally or even laugh anymore in an effort to become beautiful has soured the notion of physical beauty to me. now when i see people who are very physically beautiful, i now see the sorts of limiting things they impose on themselves to maintain that, the time and effort and self-monitoring going on, and it no longer looks beautiful to me, it looks desperate, and i feel revolted by it