What’s the Best Touring Tire for Premium CUVs? - 2024 Test 2

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  • @tirerack
    @tirerack  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At 16:40, the 'Top Tires on The Track' graph's smaller heading should read: 'Subjective Averages Based on Braking Behavior, Steering Characteristics, Cornering Traction, and Handling & Balance,' instead of 'Averages Braking, Skidpad & Lap Times Out of 10'.

  • @tyrereviews
    @tyrereviews 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Loving the new format 💖

    • @tirerack
      @tirerack  หลายเดือนก่อน

      We are so happy to hear that! Thank you for sharing.

  • @anthonyc8499
    @anthonyc8499 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    These comprehensive video comparisons are a welcome addition to Tire Rack’s stellar review system.

    • @tirerack
      @tirerack  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much!

  • @Daniel23729
    @Daniel23729 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thank you TR for this test! No one else is doing these quality magazine-grade tire tests in North America so these are filling a big void in the market. Please keep it up!
    However, as others have pointed out, your final aggregate scores seem off compared to the rankings in the individual tests. It turns out you can't mix objective measurements (which are usually very close between tires in the same category) and subjective scores (which are much farther apart because that's how our brains work, we need the clear distance to differentiate between the objects we're comparing) in the same scoring system. When you do that you end up with the aggregate scores basically matching your Road ranking - the only category using subjective scores, effectively nullifying all the good testing you did on the track, both dry and wet. Also, you end up with the 2nd worst tire in the wet (the most important category for safety) as your test winner.
    So I converted the results in your tests into scores relative to the winner in each test, which gets 100 points. For the Road category, I would normally give it about 30% of the total score, but it's only getting 15% here because of the issue described above. I also had to guesstimate the bottom four scores in this category since you only published the top four.
    Dry (40%), Wet (45%), Road (15%)
    Dry braking (20%), Dry cornering (20%), Wet braking (25%), Wet cornering (10%), Wet lap time (10%), Comfort/noise/handling (15%), Overall score
    Continental CrossContact LX25 97.69 98.78 100.00 98.63 100.00 89.72 97.62
    Yokohama Geolandar CV G058 95.06 98.78 97.51 100.00 99.59 95.84 97.48
    Michelin CrossClimate2 100.00 96.34 99.51 98.63 99.53 89.50 97.39
    Pirelli Scorpion WeatherActive 93.08 100.00 96.04 98.63 99.16 97.92 97.09
    Pirelli Scorpion AS Plus 3 93.69 97.56 90.81 94.52 97.21 100.00 95.13
    Yokohama Geolandar CV 4S 93.49 97.56 96.31 100.00 99.36 85.00 94.97
    Bridgestone Alenza AS Ultra 90.69 97.56 92.71 97.26 97.51 85.00 93.05
    Cooper Discoverer EnduraMax 92.97 97.56 83.10 90.41 93.55 80.00 89.28
    Conclusion - if you don't have snow in your climate (or like to use dedicated winters), the Continental LX25 or the Yokohama G058 are for you.
    If you get light to moderate snow in your climate (and want the convenience of all-weathers year-round), the Michelin CrossClimate2 or the Pirelli WeatherActive are for you.

    • @tirerack
      @tirerack  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is a great comment, and we love the thoughtfulness it demonstrates. The conclusion is valid, too. There are a lot of great tires in the test, and the right one for you will depend on your priorities. We try to provide all the information necessary to make an informed decision, instead of saying “this is the top tire in the test, so it’s the right tire for anyone watching this video.” To that end, we don’t include the objective test data in our overall results. In fact, that’s the way it has been ever since we started our testing program back in the 90s. We feel the objective data stands on its own, and we always present that information for consumers to use in their decision making. But those numbers don’t tell the whole story. Tires are more than just a collection of data points or performance metrics, and it’s not uncommon for us to find a tire that is strong in measured criteria but is unpleasant to drive. Of course, a tire that has insurmountably weak wet traction is unlikely to earn a high score in our subjective evaluation, so the two are definitely linked. However, in this scenario - with the combination of On-Road, Wet, and Dry subjective evaluation, the Scorpion AS Plus 3 took the top spot, despite its acceptable-but-not-test-leading wet traction.

  • @nicholassmith7048
    @nicholassmith7048 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm impressed with how well the Pirelli all-weather tire did compared to its all-season counterpart. I think I would choose it over the all-season.

  • @omelborpon3159
    @omelborpon3159 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Really appreciate these tire tests. You guys get paid to have this much fun? I wish that the reviews would mention that tire manufacturers alter tires significantly from year to year, but do not change the name of the tire. For example, the Michelin Cross Climate 2 has changed from a tire with poor rolling resistance to a tire with good rolling resistance (per Consumer Reports). Likewise, the Continental Cross Contact LX25 has improved in wet grip, but has deteriorated in rolling resistance (typical trade-off) from last year. I suppose this is why it is a good idea to test the same-named tire year after year.

  • @Jeo-What
    @Jeo-What หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the in depth review of these 3PMSF All-Weather tires. I been using the CrossClimate2 for 5 years now and here are some of my experiences with 2 different sets (H & V Speed) on a KIA Niro HEV (OEM Micheline Energy Saver A/S 205/60/16 H - same OEM size set as Toyota Prius V) and a set of Micheline X-Ice Xi3 winter dedicated tires. Daily drive min. 5X/week: 62 Miles/100KM country road & towns up to 55 MPH/ 90 KMH. Always go through a single lane small circumference sharp round-about 2X daily at @ ~37 miles / ~60 KM & 4X daily over a sharp 30 degree yield corner with 15 degree angle road grading directly over slippery train tracks @ ~25 miles / ~40KM in dry, wet, slushy, icy & snowy days between ~104F/40C - ~ -40F/-40C). Defensive driving style:
    H-Speed rated (OEM) - Harder compound with softer side walls (lighter tire) : Just a little bit of more MPG and wares down just a little bit slower with less cornering performance, grips and a bit less noise with more comfortable ride. Used for 59,650 miles/96,000KM with 5mm (6/32nd) tread depth left and sold them for 50% of what I paid for (tax & installation included) and bought a new set of V-Speed rated. MPG is a bit better to about the same as the Micheline X-Ice Xi3 in winter.
    V-Speed rated - Softer compound with harder (more steel belt reinforcement, heavier) side walls: Less MPG due to extra weight and softer compound while wares VERY little bit faster than H-Speed with MUCH better grips, cornering & stability performance in all weather conditions especially in deep snow due to the more pliable soft compound that does not effect by winter temperature (as low as -40F/-40C with wind speed in my area). Just a bit noisier and harder ride. One of the tire got a nail few days ago after driven over 24,900 miles/40,000 KM and only cost tax-in $22.03 with Micheline Road Hazard Pro-Rated Warranty as only about 1mm out of 10mm was wared off (mathematically it may last 198,800 miles/320,000 KM when wear down to 2mm tread depth)!!! MPG is about the same as the Micheline X-Ice Xi3 in winter.
    I do prefer the V-Speed rated ones currently on my daily vehicle; however, that is just a personal preference. Never put rating that is lower than the OEM tires as that is the minimum safety standard the vehicle is tested on.
    Due to the unexpected early spring & winter temperature swing that could be as much as 59F/15C differences between the days or even morning & night of ice forming in my 1,000 - 1,700 feet average latitude area, beside making sure the tire rotation and pressure are checked regularly I no longer have to wonder when to, or not to, or to regard swapping tires out too early or late (who really needs all that in life if avoidable) while saving the cost of purchasing & swapping 2X per year towards the next new set of tires that has 95% more stable, comfortable and safer than either the OEM or the dedicated winter tires (poor stopping distance in dry/wet/slush conditions compared to CC2 in all temperature & road surface conditions except ~8% better in traction & stopping on icy & snow covered-non slushy surfaces)

    • @tirerack
      @tirerack  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much for taking the tine to share your experience!

  • @kwstasgreek
    @kwstasgreek หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    @tirerack thank you for the test. Was looking forward for Geolandar CV4S first test. I think you should provide details on the points earned for each tyre more granular i.e. steering , road holding , noise etc and not just averages. It would help in comparing tyres between them

    • @tirerack
      @tirerack  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you, and you’re very welcome for the test! We appreciate the feedback, and we’ve already made changes to address this. Moving forward, all our videos will have the individual component scores displayed at the bottom of the screen during the Road Ride portion of our testing. Unfortunately we can’t go back and retrofit that change to existing videos, but the more granular detail is available in our test report, which is located here: www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=328

  • @nicholassmith7048
    @nicholassmith7048 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've never been of Pirelli but their newest products are impressing me.

  • @timun-py3nt
    @timun-py3nt 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    why wasn't the Vredestein Quatrac pro + included in the test? According to all the previous write ups , it should be at the top your list.

  • @mr.t8123
    @mr.t8123 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am not sure how they had the Pirelli AS3's coming in in first place at the end, when the conti LX25 destroyed it in dry and wet braking....

    • @tirerack
      @tirerack  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There are a lot of great tires in the test, and the right one for you will depend on your priorities. We try to provide all the information necessary to make an informed decision, instead of saying “this is the top tire in the test, so it’s the right tire for anyone watching this video.” To that end, we don’t include the objective test data in our overall results. In fact, that’s the way it has been ever since we started our testing program back in the 90s. We feel the objective data stands on its own, and we always present that information for consumers to use in their decision making. But those numbers don’t tell the whole story. Tires are more than just a collection of data points or performance metrics, and it’s not uncommon for us to find a tire that is strong in measured criteria but is unpleasant to drive. Of course, a tire that has insurmountably weak wet traction is unlikely to earn a high score in our subjective evaluation, so the two are definitely linked. However, in this scenario - with the combination of On-Road, Wet, and Dry subjective evaluation, the Scorpion AS Plus 3 took the top spot, despite its acceptable-but-not-test-leading wet traction.

  • @djsthemetereman
    @djsthemetereman 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I get all my tires from tire rack & the warranty is second to none, just an overall great experience

    • @tirerack
      @tirerack  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      We are so grateful for your kind words and support! Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us and the community.

  • @jimd6913
    @jimd6913 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love the rest and nice to see the new CV4S included....but how does the LX25 finish 1st in many areas but not take the top spot?

    • @erich5265
      @erich5265 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This new testing is either in just in context of this test or across all? The new Alenza numbers by this test are bottom.
      Are we to like many do eqate to other past tests as many do. Michelin defenders by rating numbers would be much better and deserve testing against these tires.

    • @tirerack
      @tirerack  หลายเดือนก่อน

      We try to provide all the information necessary to make an informed decision, instead of saying “this is the top tire in the test, so it’s the right tire for anyone watching this video.” To that end, we don’t include the objective test data in our overall results. In fact, that’s the way it has been ever since we started our testing program back in the 90s. We feel the objective data stands on its own, and we always present that information for consumers to use in their decision making. But those numbers don’t tell the whole story. Tires are more than just a collection of data points or performance metrics, and it’s not uncommon for us to find a tire that is strong in measured criteria but is unpleasant to drive. Of course, a tire that has insurmountably weak wet traction is unlikely to earn a high score in our subjective evaluation, so the two are definitely linked. However, in this scenario - with the combination of On-Road, Wet, and Dry subjective evaluation, the Scorpion AS Plus 3 took the top spot, despite its acceptable-but-not-test-leading wet traction.

  • @infiniteightjon
    @infiniteightjon 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Loving the continental lx25

    • @tirerack
      @tirerack  10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We are so happy to hear you love your tires!

  • @angore3rd
    @angore3rd หลายเดือนก่อน

    I find it interesting that the most recommended tire was near last in wet testing. I make actually get the Pirelli Scorpion AS Plus 3 but not sure I would score it like you guys did. Of course, we all wish more tires like the Michelin Defender 2 was included. There was no mention of rolling resistance. However the data was presented openly and the opinions were noted as to not to hide the raw data. For me, ride, noise, and reasonable handling are tops for me. The question is always is does 2 ft or 5 ft really matter to most people. They do not get to practice braking or handling before needing to perform tasks. I actually think the first run should be given and then what was final average.,

    • @tirerack
      @tirerack  หลายเดือนก่อน

      There are a lot of great tires in the test, and the right one for you will depend on your priorities. We try to provide all the information necessary to make an informed decision, instead of saying “this is the top tire in the test, so it’s the right tire for anyone watching this video.” To that end, we don’t include the objective test data in our overall results. In fact, that’s the way it has been ever since we started our testing program back in the 90s. We feel the objective data stands on its own, and we always present that information for consumers to use in their decision making. But those numbers don’t tell the whole story. Tires are more than just a collection of data points or performance metrics, and it’s not uncommon for us to find a tire that is strong in measured criteria but is unpleasant to drive. Of course, a tire that has insurmountably weak wet traction is unlikely to earn a high score in our subjective evaluation, so the two are definitely linked. However, in this scenario - with the combination of On-Road, Wet, and Dry subjective evaluation, the Scorpion AS Plus 3 took the top spot, despite its acceptable-but-not-test-leading wet traction.

  • @TheDodgefan9
    @TheDodgefan9 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was very helpful. We have a Chrysler 300 AWD, and there are more tires in this categorTy for it than in the Grand Touring category. The Scorpion WeatherActive is high on the list for replacement tires, but I was worried about the noise difference compared to the AS Plus 3.

    • @tirerack
      @tirerack  หลายเดือนก่อน

      So glad you found it helpful! We appreciate the feedback.

  • @sergebasque8460
    @sergebasque8460 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great test guys any chance you will test the new Continental DWS 06 sport +.😊

    • @tirerack
      @tirerack  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you for your kind words! We have tire-tested the Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06 Plus. Please take a look at our full test report for more information: bit.ly/4dM1xUe.

    • @sergebasque8460
      @sergebasque8460 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tirerack Thank you for sending me this information just bought the Continental DWS 06 plus, ride is smooth, quiet, good traction the turn are awesome steady.👍🇨🇦😎

    • @tirerack
      @tirerack  10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you for sharing this feedback! We are so happy we made your experience with us enjoyable! 😎

  • @tmiller918
    @tmiller918 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting you did 2 pirelli and Yokohama but didn't include the defender2.

  • @7spower998
    @7spower998 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why was the inventor of the all-weather tire, Nokian Remedy WRG5 not included in the comparison test?

    • @tirerack
      @tirerack  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for your comment! Sorry we didn’t have the tire you were looking for in the test. Currently, the Remedy WRG5 isn’t a part of our product offering, so it’s also not on our test schedule. Fortunately there are many strong performers in the test to consider.

  • @kurtp5379
    @kurtp5379 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Best of the best should have included Nokian's new WRG5 Remedy, and Outpost ATP in the testing.

    • @tirerack
      @tirerack  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Currently, the Remedy WRG5 isn’t a part of our product offering, so it’s also not on our test schedule. Fortunately there are many strong performers in the test to consider.

  • @isawthelight
    @isawthelight 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cross Climate 2's! All the Way!

    • @tirerack
      @tirerack  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      We are happy to hear this tire hit the mark for you! Thank you for sharing your experience with us.

  • @GXKid06
    @GXKid06 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can i please work here i love testing tires.

    • @tirerack
      @tirerack  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for your interest in the Tire Rack! Please email us at humanresources@tirerack.com to inquire about the hiring departments.

  • @angelmunoz3709
    @angelmunoz3709 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @tirerack why can't I access your website from Panamá in central America... i used to buy tires from you guys and ship them to carrier... now I cant do it...

    • @tirerack
      @tirerack  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hello! We are so sorry for the inconvenience. We are required to restrict access to our website to locations outside of the US for security reasons. We apologize for the frustration this may cause. If you would like to speak with a sales associate and receive a quote, please call us at 888-541-1777.

  • @erich5265
    @erich5265 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh and the energetic so hard to control emergency lane change still manages a thumbs to enforce how bad it was.
    My question is then the limits on the great tires. At 45 great. But what about 50, 55 or 60.
    Like saying how bad a 12 foot braking differ once is like at a littleover 100 foot good distance like 10 percent.
    So these tires feel great at 45 the winters at say 10 percent more speed 50 how is the emergency cornering and when do the give up?
    Like omg Alenza can't do 45 but then learn another test later Toyo starts giving out at 50. Or are they so much better do 76 us interstates or even better full Autobahn in the rain?

  • @mvnorsel6354
    @mvnorsel6354 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonder what was the size of the tyre ?

    • @tirerack
      @tirerack  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Great question! During our tire testing, we used size 235/55R19 . Please let us know if you have any additional questions.