My biggest problem is I played tekken all my life and was always one of the best players amongst friends or just really good online on tekken 6. Took a huge break from tekken came back to tekken 7 and its daunting how good even low level players are now, feels like everyone can pull off huge combos and understands the intricacies of the game these days compared to the level I was used too
If you're playing on PC, that's overlays, bots and cheats like 95% of the time. Online is a cesspool for PC. MainMan's point is still true regarding most of the cheaters, if you can out-patience a cheater you can often win by counter-hits and punishing their unsafe shit. I regularly outpatience cheaters and smash them to shit, but then I main Zafina.
Dude im hovering around teal/dan ranks rn and every player I run into knows their FULL combo with wall travel and the wall followup. A lot of ppl break every throw and can pass every knowledge check (granted im playing a very popular character in kazuya). A lot of the other mishimas I run into have electrics down very consistent. Its no joke down here man its a damn warzone. Ran into an akuma yesterday doing the (im guessing advanced) fadc combos.
Like... no bullshit, on console I see ppl on yellow ranks who are so damn solid its insane. The greatest difference of higher and lower level players is knowledge and a solid game plane. But honestly! Ppl have crazy good fundamentals even from low ranks compared to previous games. Just not throw breaking... No one brakes throws until emperor xD
to be fair in terms of combos, i really think that in tekken 7 there are plenty of high damage combos that are very accessible due to higher recovery frames and big hit boxes. t6 and tag2 combos were a bit tougher to get good damage, but there were some easier slightly less damaging alternatives. then you have t3/tag1/t4/t5 where you're either doing an ebay combo, dropped combo, or max damage.
One small thing that changed my perspective on playing is how TMM react to losing. Every time he gets sidestepped, whiff punished etc, he'd compliment them. Because well it was actually impressive!
This is a thing that a friend of mine helped me years ago... I never met online gaming until I saw him playing COD: MW2, back in 2011. I played COD on PC, but not online. I was amazed by it and I wanted to try it. He told me that if I wanted to have a go, I had to change my way of viewing the game because he was paying to play online, and I should take it very serious. He instilled the winning mentality in me & I'm glad with that. I used to be very angry when I was always dying and losing & I wouldn't see through my mistake or learn in the game. While pushing me to become better and to value the money spent, he told me one of the best lessons in my life. "Man, we are here to win and be the best, but remember, after all this is a game & we are here to have fun. Don't let yourself get angry by something you can easily be better if you just pay attention & control the moment" That is a message I used all the rest of my life. I'm a better person because of that, I use this in most situations. Sometimes watching TheMainMan, he loses a round when someone use cheap tricks are unorthodox or horrendous strikes, but he burst out laughing... I would be angry because I hate losing at TEKKEN (old school player since TEKKEN 3, bit never played online), but I accept it calmly as it's part of life. TMM laughing remembers me my friend! And it was actually my friend who showed me TMM channel, months ago!
Yeah he’s a guy who’s played the same character for 25 years so he ended up going humble. Players who have less experience and outplay him is remarkable to him and he always wants to hype up other people’s achievements in their journey
@@sondertekken I can't whiff punish at all because even if i'm backdashing and fishing for whiffs, I still can't react to it. I hate my reaction speed.
I still remember a hilarious moment. I was playing law and I was on the final round and the opponent had about 5% left whilst I had just amount of health to where I would die from a rage art. I tried to safely low-poke him to death so I pressed D3. But came a perfectly timed rage art. I assumed my loss when suddenly during the rage art cinematic, I remembered that Law's D3 has an extension D3, 3 which is a chunky CH launching extension that comes out really fast and can be delayed. So I mashed 3 and low and behold, it killed. I had the biggest laugh ever.
Doesn't work for Mishimas since backdashing gives them space for a 50/50. Hellsweep or while rising 2 which is homing, so you have to guess. I agree most situation can be solve By backdash or getting out of range of their moves. Some characters have counters for a backdashers like hiehachi ff2 or any long range homing moves usually a f,f,f move.
@@whatwhy6349 Their 50/50 are meant to be oppressive from Oki because you can't mash out of it... Not from neutral. Kazuya's vortex has 20 frames startup ffs. backdash and if he goes for it just mash him out of the mixup.
After years of not playing tekken I decided to try online last year for the first time and I was getting rolled left and right cuz I didn't really understand how the online worked. Took a big break from ranked play, learned how the game mechanics worked and stuck to casual play to learn the matchups. After not playing ranked for 6 months and taking time to learn, I went from yellow ranks to ruler in 2 days. TMM is absolutely right. Tekken tests your patience and knowledge. You won't win every fight and every loss is a minor setback leading to a major victory if you take your time to learn from your mistakes.
I play T7 since February 2021, but I started playing online and seriously on October 2021. That period helped me a lot, I watched a some tournaments and familiarised with the inputs and combos, in December I reached yellow rank due to whiff punishment mainly, in February I reached red rank, and there I got stack, people learned to not whiff to much and most of them used gimmicky strings, moves or sets up which can be beated by knowledge, I needed 4-5 months to move to purple, in this months I learned the most popular characters's top moves and gimmicks, learned to punish very well, started using sidestep consistently, watching and enjoying tournaments, sets, guide and content creators like That Blasted Salami, TMM, Framewhisperer and many others. Now I play like 35 characters and because of that is very hard to beat me with knowledge checks, and I play super defensive, whiff punishment, punishment, poking and sidesteps are really good, winning with these is really satisfying. I am still feeling frustating a bit to lose a round when I am not familiarised to fight against a specific character, but I am not salty like I was months before, I needed a lot of time to get in in T7, if it was for the fact that I liked the tournament playstyle, I wouldn't put in so much time on the game and watching stuff related. T7 is not beginner friendly, without watching guides or somebody training you, I think is pretty much impossible to be good at Tekken.
@@Qwuiet Right now: Feng Hwoarang King Kazuya Paul Heicachi Dragunov Bryan Bob Lars Leo Armor King Lidia Lili Jack 7 Kazumi Jin Akuma Shaheen Josie Steve Law Julia Miguel Marduk Lee Negan Kunimitsu Ganryu M. Raven Geese Leroy
U need a main tho, if u don’t have a main you’ll struggle in long sets because I can put you in situations where you don’t know how to deal with things because you have less experience with certain characters, there are atleast 2 characters you play better than all of them without question, u can’t main the whole cast
@@Kwuivery Yes, I have a character which I am very comfortable with, Feng even if I dont play him for like 1 month, I am always ready and comfortable to play him, I started maining him like 8 months before Knee won Evo with him
One of the most important things I learned was neutral strategies: keepout beats rushdown beats wait beats keepout. You rush in to 50/50, opponent does keepout move and you get launched. Instead you wait and whiff punish that keepout. But waiting loses to 50/50. Watch what your opponent likes to do in and counter their main strategy. And never just play one of these. Opponent will figure it out and counter it.
I think it's very true to acknowledge your achievements that lead you to getting better. I still remember the first time I low parried a low when they tried to finish me off at low health and I would make a comeback. The first time I pulled that off they plugged during the rage art ender.
0:55 I never got desperate, i just got confused like- am i supposed to do something? I can't even find an opening on my opponent 8:45 But... i can't even attack, i basically only block... Man, if this franchise ever had a Guard meter, i'd go to sleep with my diaphragm hemorrhaging 13:09 For Tekken 7, i've played with -Jin (When i'm feeling normal) -Devil Jin (When i'm having a bad day) -Kazuya, -A little bit of Heihachi, -Eliza (one of my favorites) -Noctis -The random selection, because i usually play random with my friends just for some shits and giggles -And of course, Akuma (he was my first one) As for Tekken 8 (cuz' this video is 2 years old) i usually play with -Jin (When i'm feeling normal) -Devil Jin (When i'm having a bad day) -Jun (My main) -Reina -Sometimes Lee (Cuz' he's MARVELOUS) -Sometimes Leroy -Sometimes Azucena -Sometimes Dragunov -And maybe i'll play Heihachi once i can afford him (Fighting game DLCs need to stop) 16:08 ...Sure, noted (KAZUYA IS BETTER THAN THIS) 22:40 Probably the hardest tip to follow, still... also noted
I couldn't handle online to start with. I really wanted to get violent when I lost. Around 3-4 months in, playing in practice mode, accepting I don't know everything, getting excited about learning a new counter. Man, it's a completely different feeling. Lost an entire rank to a Lili player, but I was happy to have the last two rounds be 2-3 instead of 0-3. Getting hung up on one game is like getting hung up on that one time in life where you tripped.
As a beginner Tekken player and an FG noob in general, I think the first two tips are invaluable. I spam attacks because I feel unsure how to block mixups, and so autopiloting is a sort of bad coping mechanims. Staying calm is so important to being able to block and not spam. Thanks for the tips, TMM.
I have been playing tekken for like 2years and I have watched many many many punishment guides and tutorials and all those learning tekken videos but I can say this without a doubt that this is one of the best basic advice video, thank you tmm, MASKUU!!!!
Don't ever worry about your rank. It will ruin your life if you do. Just concentrate on learning. And if you think about ranks you won't try anything different so you won't advance. Rank is there only to give you opponents that are close to your level and in the long run your rank will be higher anyway if you don't care about ranks but only enjoy learning the game.
Thanks. I started taking Tekken seriously about a week ago after being a casual for so many years. I've watched pros and such play since TTT2 and have always wanted to be at that level and so I started putting in the work. Got to Grandmaster with Dragunov excited to get to green ranks but I got demoted to 3rd Dan. It demoralized me but now I'll go with a different mindset.
@@luicifiero bro fkin go for it. I dabbled in drag a few months ago. Went into casual mode with Kazuya for shits an giggles, but ran into drags at yellow ranks and higher, all the way into red and blue ranks. Won a few rounds even being at marauder at average and my own drag was at mentor. They showed me shit that got me so hyped. Went into ranked after labbing and made it from mentor to warrior with drag the next day 🤘
Yes it s true befoure I was worry about rank,then I was very tired,sad,becouse some good players takes my rank down again and "here we go again"😂 but now I quit rank games,I jus playing tekken and learning some combos and stuff like that👍😀
That's a great tip. My motto is close to that because i always tell my self that the opponents will be doing the cheapest tricks and flowcharts as they can and it's ok, that's what i try to do to them too. And to every cheap move there are solutions, and most of the time the cheaper the tricks feel, the bigger the punishment opportunities are once i learn about them.
I can tell you, TMM, this video IS helping me a lot, I'm watching it like once or twice in a day and it helped me to improve A LOT mainly for the tip 1 and 2, funny how I started applying it to my games with Lidia and I've finally reached Genbu, I'm pretty happy, thank you a lot. You not just helped me to really understand the game, but you also helped me to have fun even while losing matches, some days ago I was even hurting myself for losing matches and I was autopiloting a lot, now I'm learning what my opponents can do and reacting to them properly. Seriously, TMM, I cannot express how much I'm grateful for this video, thank you so much.
My advice is to lab the move you hate being hit by and practice an effective punish for it until its second nature. Snake edge like move are popular in low ranks, so start training yourself to block it on reaction. Visually break down the animation.
@@Eskolol honestly there are a lot of mids that you dont want to get hit by. Paul's existence and being the most popular character online proves that. You dont wanna duck him often.
@@Eskolol i remember using miguel's SAV soccer kick 5 times in a row on a few people, only to switch into the launcher afterwards and have killed them because of it you aren't wrong
Small little thing that I did was to stop being too precise with your punishment, make your mind up and be ready with your ten frame standing and your 12 or 13 while standing punish. And learn the launch punishable moves , that way you can guarantee that you get around 50-60 damage off of punishment alone and that helps a lot. Don’t always go for a precise punishment because in online play with lag you might miss or get blocked entirely.
I seear some people start lagging on purpose, crystal clear connection until i start applying heaps of pressure, then boom im playing in slow motion and they’re spamming launchers that are somehow landing
Can’t stress how right TMM is about blocking - blocking and low-blocking should be the first thing you need to learn, followed closely with low-parrying.
The little things are crazy. I think I played a match where I got a perfect on someone who was pretty damn good, but I lost the match. Sure I lost, but the victory of getting a perfect on him was honestly the only thing I could remember. Same thing with another person I played against where we had tons of back and forth, making it a really fun match. But surprisingly when I checked, I won every match I played against him. I didn't even know I won, I was just enjoying our matches to much to even care if I won or not
Coming from Anime Fighters. Tekken is the most relaxing fighting of all time for me. Nobody is air dashing at me, nobody teleport behind me. I just chill✌️
Man, my first serious fighting game was GGS, which is so unforgiving for input (pot main here). Tekken is definitely complex, but its way more relaxing with its more relaxed and abundance of strings.
Great explanation on these five basic concepts. One thing I would add about Korean backdashing, is when you're learning, try learning to sidestep cancel first. BD>SS>BD. it'll help you get the cadence down for Korean backdashing and has the added utility of moving you away from the wall. Additionally, when you're new, when you're KBD is sloppy during a match, you can always fall back on sidestep canceling.
I’m a struggling player and Tekken ruined my life. Broke my wrist and I can’t make love anymore. My holographic wife took the cats. I can’t sleep at night with some bum with pointy hair dashing in front of me yelling “dorya”
I urge everyone, pro or beginner to watch this. Even is you are already aware of everything stated, it will be a nice reminder. Enjoy the game and have fun that’s what it’s all about
I'm so close to reaching red ranks for the first time after changing characters. I changed to Lee, who never really appealed to me but after diving deeper into his gameplay I started loving him. So guys... Learn new characters
Hey @tmm Im in Canada, so I couldn't usually catch your stream since it's in the middle of the night here for me. But I just wanna say I really appreciate all the uploads on TH-cam. AIISHHHH!
If you play on play station we can work on it. I bet money its a mental block more than anything and you can absolutely figure it out if you can recognize what your problems are. Anybody can do it with enough honest work, its also working smart not just working hard, people put too many hours of work into the wrong stuff and do themselves a disservice.
I spent my first month of tekken finding a character that i found easy to use and enjoyable, Julia. Got to green ranks in that first month, then i spent 2 months mastering punishment and BIGBOI combos with my main, while also practicing with my secondary character, Noctis. Got to Vanguard and was stuck there for a while. The thing that took me to the next level was learning new characters, so in my 4th month i started learning Eliza, because i thought her combos were awesome. Got her to Vanguard and couldn't go any further. Then i learned Anna, got her to Vanguard, got stuck again. Went back to Julia, this is about 8 months in, SKYROCKETED from Vanguard to Vanquisher in 2 days. Went back to Anna, got her to Juggernaut. Learned Leo after patch 5.0, just because. Now im about 1 year into my tekken experience, just learned Miguel last week, gonna take Anna back into ranked soon to hopefully finally reach red ranks.
I would say the BIGGEST thing that got my out of green ranks was learning how to BLOCK more effectively, learned to WATCH my opponents moves, learn their tendencies and punish them. Also when you fight against a character that you know the matchup for, LOW PARRY every time you know there is a low coming. Learn your optimal low parry combos and learn your best wall combo and get oki
@@niteliteyt4737 considering the current state of the game im not playing any characters that anyone would consider overpowered and all of the "dlc" characters i use are actually tekken characters, at least i never used fahk or leroy
Love these kinds of videos. It really goes to show how much depth there is to Tekken, but also that one can conquer this depth if you just approach the game correctly.
Mainman, such a spot on video, so good. My two biggest issues definitely are the mental rage (normally when I get beaten by someone I feel is not very skilled but I don't know the match up, especially the feeling of being bad against spammy bs moves ...oh so much rage!) and maximising combo damage, I knew a few but I seem to never get the max damage combos down, which is very frustrating.
I'd just like to add the blocking is definitely correct, but you won't always bypass the b's spamming even if u block a lot , I do still agree with the point he made.
dude, I'm watching you for 2 - 3 years and your materials are still, personal opinion :), the best if we're talking about tekken community :) thanks a lot !!!
My biggest problem in Tekken is to keep calm and don't get stressed. I'm basically not new in Tekken (80+ hours in tekken). And still I drop a lot of combos and get punished because of panicking. I'm playing smash ultimate a lot. I have thousand of hours gameplay and a lot of knowledge but compared to Tekken it's not that stressful. This video helps me a lot. Thank you so much for the advices.
The best thing to do right in the beginning is to forget ranks completely. Yeah play ranked because it's the best for even matches but don't look at the ranks. They mean absolutely nothing. And don't play the game to win matches and get angry when you lose because you will start to hate the game quickly if you do that. Only play the game to enjoy the learning process and only compare your level to yourself months ago. Learn one fundamental thing at a time and always keep learning and counting small steps in learning as victories.
@@epicon6 yes thanks I'm definetly doing that for sure. Tekken is so much fun only if I don't get that panic. I need to keep calm my biggest problem. I need to improve my self. I also watched a lot of TheMainManSWEs guides he also tells that ranks are not important, play patiency and calm and learn step by step the fundamentals of tekken and the character who fits to you. Thanks a lot I'll keep going
Deserves a like if for no other reason that the top tip is keep your cool. I suggest these personal challenges if you are stuck or plateau'd: - When you match anyone way lower skill than you, jab twice successfully and try to win by turtling until timeout with a life lead win. It will force you to focus on defense at all times and make it normal, which carries over to all other matchups. - Force yourself to commit to a day of not using juggles at all now and then, if not regularly. It will force you to focus explicitly on fundamentals, which are too easy to ignore if you only ever need two openings to win and teach yourself to play that way. - Mess with the opponents head. Do dumb stuff on purpose when it's safe to teach them to look for exploits that aren't really there, which translates into punishment openings when they predictably walk right into a sloppy pattern you did on purpose as bait. Throw unsafe moves on purpose, but only when you know they can't punish, particularly those that have a safe 50/50 alternative. Train your opponent to think you are less skilled, sloppier, and more reckless than you actually are, then tighten up on demand to exploit their response. - Take at least the first round to read your opponent's preferences. Everyone leans primarily on their strengths. Spend the rest of the fight doing everything you can to force them to do anything else except that, whatever that is for that specific opponent. This will flat out crush any opponent that is a one trick pony, and put everyone else who isn't at the highest levels on their back heels. Use throws to force turtles to get aggressive, which throws them off their game quickly. Use frame traps to force aggressive players to turtle, which they almost always do pretty poorly. Use Oki setups and spacing control to shut down grapplers. Ideally make them do what they are worst at, but at least not what they are best at. - Embrace getting stomped by who you don't know. Eat it up. Turtle as best you can, then watch your replays and lab what you sucked at until you don't. You only need to understand how to defend against what a skilled player functionally uses for mixups and punishes. The entire rest of the move list for any character you don't intend to play is a waste of time and a distraction.
I agree with everything in this video, except for maybe the last tip. I think a lot of players focus way too much on combos and optimizing for maximum damage. It's easy to have a severe lack of understanding of how to set up your combos and how to space yourself appropriately. Sure, more damage = better, but my point is new players are often very intimidated and feel like combo knowledge is the biggest barrier to entry, when in reality, being able to defend and punish when you have an opportunity is way more important for actually getting better at the game.
Really liked the video. really loved the part where you gave simple tipps for a specific hero!! As a new player it's very helpful having you explain stuff wich is just obvious. ty!!!
Good info for newcomers….. when I unintentionally smurf red ranks with characters I’m unfamiliar with, I often beat them in the clutch because they panic. Either they throw out a bad rage art or they freeze up and allow me to throw them. Staying calm is the biggest key.
I wish i saw this 1.5 years ago and also had other players sharing their experiences because it took me basically a 1000 hours of raging to learn that ranks don't matter at all and losing doesn't matter at all. Only enjoying the slow process of learning one thing at a time and only counting progress/learning as winning. Not raging and not caring about ranks is the biggest win you can ever have when playing Tekken online. Then compared to the players who are beating you and teabagging you (because they are sad inside), your mind and your mental is at Tekken God Omega level and their mind is at 1st dan.
Just picked up T8 after not playing Tekken since T7 came out and I feel like a beginner again, videos like these help me get back into it again. Not necessarily related to T8 but its pretty much the same advice would apply
I saw this live, but man this was timed to perfection. Just came out of a ranked session and a 5k wins King at Vanguard tilted me quite hard. Thanks as always TMM!
@@itachi1165 Either stuck or deliberately reduces their rank to remain at it. Either way, it ruins games for people like me that are still developing their fundamentals. I took some games off of them only because I know the match up really well (my brother is a King main and I've probably played hundreds of matches against it xD)
i'd actually love to see a video featuring the kind of tips you offered for vsing kazuya, eddy/xiao yu, bryan/lee etc, but for every character, they were all really helpful tips i hadn't realised and would probably make any matchup a lot more bearable if i had something so easy and concise to remember
Can't believe this video I watched long time ago and the one about Dota 2 actually helped me with Tekken 8 now as I was stressed out playing Devil Jin against Reina's 222 string and some other new characters (old one that stressed me the hell out is definitely gonna be Jin and his dang down 2). So I remembered about this video today and tried to do the same approach with the thought of whatever with ranked bruh, just learn and lab. God the feeling of playing, discovering, punishing and learning is weirdly enough feels like it was not stressing me out anymore due to me trying to understand what I did wrong. Except if my opponent have a potato PC and they just forcing the graphic high up there so the game looking heavily jittery. But despite all of that, I think I can finally have fun with Tekken 8 and learning instead of just shutting down my head and almost playing blindly. Thank You for this old video
I wanna enjoy and relax. I don't want to take a f*cking exam. I'll just enjoy watching Tekken and playing casually. Too many stressors in life already, ain't gonna get mad over 3D characters fighting each other for a pretty much useless rank.
This is very true. I've stared playing Tekken in 1997 (Tekken 3), Only started playing serious in 2004 (Tekken 5). From Tekken 5 up to Tekken 6 BR (2004-2011), my highest ever rank was 3rd dan, never reached blue ranks. I only reached blue rank in Tekken Tag 2. The first time I ever reached Green rank was in 2018 (1 year after Tekken 7 FR). I only reached yellow and orange rank this year 2022. Getting better at Tekken is a game of patience. It took me 14 YEARS to reach Green rank and another 4 years to reach yellow and orange rank
I'm a beginner player and I just realized I watch my character over the other players, and as soon as I swapped to looking at the opponent, I definitely started doing better. Idk why it was a thing. Maybe from watching tutorial stuff all the time and trying to learn whatever fighting game I like. (Just adding this tidbit for other new players hehe)
I did this for a while as well. Once you're fully acclimated to your char you can start to focus on theirs a lot more. This is also when you can start trying to break throws more consistently by looking at their hands. Regardless, good advice, but don't be afraid to take this development slow.
@@Seatek_Ark I couldn't for the life of me understand how I was supposed to punish or break throws. Somehow I finally realized that I wasn't look at the other player. I was playing a whole different game than the other people lol. I'm excited to see how much better I can do.
Can't agree much more on your first point. I feel like more than half of my tekken progress came from 2012-2015 when I used to play on TTT2 arcades almost daily despite playing from Tekken 5 through 7 (skipped 6 because I didn't have a gen 7 console). Playing irl, facing your opponent face-to-face really kept your mental checked, since you can't just throw a fit in public. There were moments when I beat orange ranked players even though I was only a Mentor, all only by pokes and mixups. While here in the comfort of my home I have no restraints (nothing severe, I mostly scream into my pillow lol). There is no game as rage inducing as Tekken, even though I'm fully immune to toxicity in every of the competitive FPS that I play.
No one can block everything. Keep calm and take notes of which moves people are abusing and you will find counters to them. Tell yourself that it's fine if you didn't react to something or get caught by a knowledge check. You will get better and at some point you will counter all the bullshit like its nothing.
I want to add that dash guard is also a good strategy for extracting information about your opponent safely. Do they spam keepout moves? What moves? Do they let you in for free to do 50/50?
The issue with the first piece of advice is that once you really start being calm and loving the small accomplishments, you start to care more about having fun playing the game than about improving. I mean, you would be improving an insane amount, but that stops being the only goal of playing.
The thing I find tough is just the speed Tekken demands of the player. The game demands you react to things in split seconds which is really only possible if you’ve built up muscle memory from practicing one specific thing for hours and hours. It’s one thing to recognise a move, it’s another thing to then know the correct punish to utilise, but then it’s another thing entirely to actually be able to execute the punish when it happens in a match. Things are happening so fast, you have to respond to animations like a robot. It’s often I do the correct punish but it’s too late and I’m already being blown up by the next move. Respect to anyone who has developed the skill of playing Tekken well.
I had a goal of getting to mid green ranks and started playing Tekken seriously, I had the game on PC since launch and had put in 33hrs total. Took me 7-8 weeks to reach warrior with Katarina and now have a play time of 138hrs. Watched lots of videos and had a solid combo that could work off of all launchers/counter hits. Now I can do the more optimized and harder combos but have not applied it much yet, that will be my next goal. Frame trap setups helped tons. The hardest thing about Tekken for me is having the character knowledge cuz there's so many, did lab some annoying ones but it's still hard. Very rewarding game, can't wait for T8.
Tip1: never autopilot. Every single one of your moves should have a purpose. Tip2: find your characters BEST moves and use them, check which are the top5 moves pro-players use with your character if you don't know how to find them. There's a reason why they are the best. They are probably combining several properties in one move: it's safe, ch launcher, fast, good tracking, leaves you at frame advantage, etc Tip3: in Tekken you can either Steal the opponent turn, Evade, Mix-up. It's a rock paper scissors game. Steal the opponent turn beats mix-up but losses to evasion. Evasion beats stealing the opponent turn but losses to mix up, mix up beats evasion but losses to stealing the opponent turn. Extra funny tip: you should not block lows, if you think a low is coming you can beat it with a fast high or a fast mid (if the low crushes highs). You should only block low if you have no other choice (after being knocked down and you techroll and the Kazuya is already wavedashing on your face )
Tekken is the Quake of fighting games. You just gotta keep at it until you reach a level of knowledge where you can basically smell the opponents intentions. And at that point, you can finally begin to play the actual game.
I'm 60 hours into Tekken 7 and this is my first Tekken. I was on a loss streak 10+ with Asuka and felt extremely frustrated but this video helped me get a win back since I started slowing down. I defo need to play more into other characters but I'm grateful this video came up just now as I defo needed the mentality talk all I kept thinking was playing was ofc I'm gonna lose other people know better than me they know exactly what I'm bout to do and I was discrediting just having a better defence. Lets hope I can keep improving ahah from being a noob ahah
Well done friend i appreciate your videos. I am a blind Tekken player since 1998 when I was 13 or `4. I see the chanhes in Tekken even as my blindness decreases, I see it and expereince it different than anyone else. I have won 7 minor tekken tournament and competeted with many f the Tekken tour players and gone better than 50% against them plus have a better than 90% WIN PERCENTAGE IN TEKKEN 5DR and Tekken 6. I've never though i was ready to fight a character until i mde tekken king offline in DR now that i study frame data i know i am different and special however the amount of characters and the learning curve since tekken tage tiill now with my learning disability of being bling has me smh . There need to more stability really however you have most of the methods i use to master tekken being blind. I love videos like this rarely do i get a person who ask me how i do what i do and my process so my perspective is not typical but philosophyjkd is a practical and scientific approach to fighting. Thus i will beat most tekken player as they do not know how to fight however Jeet Kune Do Look at side stepping over blocking as bloocking allows yyour oppenent to set tempo.
I would recommend to analyse your gamplay while playing in terms of Risk. Every button you push has a risk to it. Maybe something is very risky but it works most of the time since people don't have the knowledge in your league. Then the same will stop working because the risk to reward is highly deminished. Playing more low risk is generally more rewarded the higher you clime the ranks. Then also look what risk your opponent takes. Many online players do high commitment counter hit moves that are too risky but work since people are not patient enough.
For me the hardest part so far is execution, i'm new to the game and not used to play with pads. Simple things like qc inputs or mid combo dashes which continue with an forward input (for example ff f1 turns into a ff1) are like hell. Sadly the practice mode doesn't show the exact timings for the input, that would be helpful.
@@Demon_Aura for example gigas, his sample combo d+2, f+12, db+32, f+211, after db32 is a dash or mini dash (don't know the difference). So if I try to connect f12 after the dash (ff f211) I get ff2 or fff2. Same goes for his bnb combo d+2, f,f+4,2 2,1,3+4 GS 4,1 S! df+1+2,1+2, same scenario, after GS41 comes a dash into df1+2 but I simply can't connect the df1+2, it's always too early or too late but never in time
Great video. Hope that this video and tips will help myself in the future, because i have been long time didn't play Tekken since T6. Greetings from Malaysia.
Another thing that helps get some wins I dont deserve, is watching hyped pro matches. After Ash won EVO and was all the rage. You bet your ass plebs started trying to play like him, with the same flow charts (but without pro movement and pro defense). And knowing what moves are going to come next is the greatest thing since sliced chicken. Make sure to chicken against Oscar.
I played Steve so much, but I would have never gotten as good at playing him if I never tried other characters. Maybe it's because it forced me to practice fundamentals, or the brain categorized moves and, when you play other characters, you learn their identities and gain new knowledge/categories of certain move archetypes, otherwise talked about as "tools" that a character can have. I came back to Steve playing him completely differently after I mained Bryan, Geese, Jin, etc... and I'm suddenly ridiculously better at Steve than I used to be without even practicing him that much in between. Practicing Heihachi's OTGF helped me perform Kazuya's PEWGF a lot better. When I got back to steve, my execution was so refined due to playing these other characters that the "Shiro combo" became easy. Geese's raging storm off of a jab is not so hard. Just keep branching out and finding new discoveries, that will always help. But the most important thing is time, man. I put 1100+ hours to git gud, that's ridiculous lmao but I'll never not be a fan of Tekken so that's perfectly fine with me (time to watch the video after writing paragraphs of thoughts)
Hey man i’m about to get the game and ive never played a tekken game before Steve looks really fun because i’m a big fan of fast boxers who hit hard What would you recommend I do? Should i try out other ‘easier’ characters first
1st tip: channel ur inner anger to help you win by any means necessary 2nd tip: block is for newbs.. be aggressive.. spam aka knowledge check.. throw all nina strings with eyes closed n u win cuz the game itself is built so.. 3rd tip: throw out ur mains.. dont play char u like.. play char which the game wants u to win with.. until they get nerfed. 4th tip: this is a game n not ur college.. dont study.. just press buttons. if u are entertained.. continue.. if not switch to doa. 5th tip: just buy hitbox or mixbox .. easy kbd.. the game wants u to kbd.. make it easy for urself.. its not cheating to keep urself sane
The one thing to rank up and be successful is put in the time and yeah Teaching helps you learn more and accept defeat, having a convo with the characters you lose too makes it a lot better, went from genbu to raijin and my goal was tekken king and this wasn’t even everyday lab or practice it was just rank here and there less than 5 times a month, breaks help and watching pros helps with your character
I'm a new player, have had the game 2 weeks. Made it into Grandmaster and promo game for next rank, as soon as I saw the Eddy in the loading screen I knew I was doomed I've ran into a couple and it never ends well for me. Managed to take him 2-3 just by guessing on and blocking lows but it's been a while since a game has had my heart racing like that lol.
Very good advise man...I recent was just playing block games and I came across hworang, boy he beat me 6 games in a row and I was annoyed, after a break I got him again but this time I new how to counter him cause I was more Calm.....there's a lot of truth to what you are saying here and I hope others listen man......thanks again.
Being calm and enjoying the small things like flashy combos or a good sidestep really makes the game 10times more fun
fr still have learned a combo tho
Sidestepping dragonuvs WR2 made me feel amazing yesterday. It was the first time I was purposefully timing my side steps for a specific move.
Well done 👏🏾
how can you have fun if you arent shouting racial slurs at your monitor every 10 seconds
@@Tundric_Schwolf ?
My biggest problem is I played tekken all my life and was always one of the best players amongst friends or just really good online on tekken 6. Took a huge break from tekken came back to tekken 7 and its daunting how good even low level players are now, feels like everyone can pull off huge combos and understands the intricacies of the game these days compared to the level I was used too
Right? In the Tekken 5 and 6 days I thought I was good cause I knew a couple of strings. Man, looking at it now, it's funny.
If you're playing on PC, that's overlays, bots and cheats like 95% of the time.
Online is a cesspool for PC.
MainMan's point is still true regarding most of the cheaters, if you can out-patience a cheater you can often win by counter-hits and punishing their unsafe shit.
I regularly outpatience cheaters and smash them to shit, but then I main Zafina.
Dude im hovering around teal/dan ranks rn and every player I run into knows their FULL combo with wall travel and the wall followup. A lot of ppl break every throw and can pass every knowledge check (granted im playing a very popular character in kazuya). A lot of the other mishimas I run into have electrics down very consistent. Its no joke down here man its a damn warzone. Ran into an akuma yesterday doing the (im guessing advanced) fadc combos.
Like... no bullshit, on console I see ppl on yellow ranks who are so damn solid its insane. The greatest difference of higher and lower level players is knowledge and a solid game plane. But honestly! Ppl have crazy good fundamentals even from low ranks compared to previous games. Just not throw breaking... No one brakes throws until emperor xD
to be fair in terms of combos, i really think that in tekken 7 there are plenty of high damage combos that are very accessible due to higher recovery frames and big hit boxes.
t6 and tag2 combos were a bit tougher to get good damage, but there were some easier slightly less damaging alternatives.
then you have t3/tag1/t4/t5 where you're either doing an ebay combo, dropped combo, or max damage.
One small thing that changed my perspective on playing is how TMM react to losing. Every time he gets sidestepped, whiff punished etc, he'd compliment them. Because well it was actually impressive!
This is a thing that a friend of mine helped me years ago...
I never met online gaming until I saw him playing COD: MW2, back in 2011.
I played COD on PC, but not online.
I was amazed by it and I wanted to try it.
He told me that if I wanted to have a go, I had to change my way of viewing the game because he was paying to play online, and I should take it very serious. He instilled the winning mentality in me & I'm glad with that.
I used to be very angry when I was always dying and losing & I wouldn't see through my mistake or learn in the game.
While pushing me to become better and to value the money spent, he told me one of the best lessons in my life.
"Man, we are here to win and be the best, but remember, after all this is a game & we are here to have fun. Don't let yourself get angry by something you can easily be better if you just pay attention & control the moment"
That is a message I used all the rest of my life.
I'm a better person because of that, I use this in most situations.
Sometimes watching TheMainMan, he loses a round when someone use cheap tricks are unorthodox or horrendous strikes, but he burst out laughing...
I would be angry because I hate losing at TEKKEN (old school player since TEKKEN 3, bit never played online), but I accept it calmly as it's part of life.
TMM laughing remembers me my friend!
And it was actually my friend who showed me TMM channel, months ago!
Yeah he’s a guy who’s played the same character for 25 years so he ended up going humble. Players who have less experience and outplay him is remarkable to him and he always wants to hype up other people’s achievements in their journey
Back dash and whiff punishing is probably the best thing you can do against a match up you don't know
Don't have to know their frames if they're not hitting you :)
@@sondertekken I can't whiff punish at all because even if i'm backdashing and fishing for whiffs, I still can't react to it. I hate my reaction speed.
I still remember a hilarious moment. I was playing law and I was on the final round and the opponent had about 5% left whilst I had just amount of health to where I would die from a rage art. I tried to safely low-poke him to death so I pressed D3. But came a perfectly timed rage art. I assumed my loss when suddenly during the rage art cinematic, I remembered that Law's D3 has an extension D3, 3 which is a chunky CH launching extension that comes out really fast and can be delayed. So I mashed 3 and low and behold, it killed. I had the biggest laugh ever.
Doesn't work for Mishimas since backdashing gives them space for a 50/50.
Hellsweep or while rising 2 which is homing, so you have to guess. I agree most situation can be solve
By backdash or getting out of range of their moves. Some characters have counters for a backdashers like hiehachi ff2 or any long range homing moves usually a f,f,f move.
@@whatwhy6349 Their 50/50 are meant to be oppressive from Oki because you can't mash out of it... Not from neutral. Kazuya's vortex has 20 frames startup ffs. backdash and if he goes for it just mash him out of the mixup.
After years of not playing tekken I decided to try online last year for the first time and I was getting rolled left and right cuz I didn't really understand how the online worked. Took a big break from ranked play, learned how the game mechanics worked and stuck to casual play to learn the matchups. After not playing ranked for 6 months and taking time to learn, I went from yellow ranks to ruler in 2 days. TMM is absolutely right. Tekken tests your patience and knowledge. You won't win every fight and every loss is a minor setback leading to a major victory if you take your time to learn from your mistakes.
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
I play T7 since February 2021, but I started playing online and seriously on October 2021. That period helped me a lot, I watched a some tournaments and familiarised with the inputs and combos, in December I reached yellow rank due to whiff punishment mainly, in February I reached red rank, and there I got stack, people learned to not whiff to much and most of them used gimmicky strings, moves or sets up which can be beated by knowledge, I needed 4-5 months to move to purple, in this months I learned the most popular characters's top moves and gimmicks, learned to punish very well, started using sidestep consistently, watching and enjoying tournaments, sets, guide and content creators like That Blasted Salami, TMM, Framewhisperer and many others. Now I play like 35 characters and because of that is very hard to beat me with knowledge checks, and I play super defensive, whiff punishment, punishment, poking and sidesteps are really good, winning with these is really satisfying. I am still feeling frustating a bit to lose a round when I am not familiarised to fight against a specific character, but I am not salty like I was months before, I needed a lot of time to get in in T7, if it was for the fact that I liked the tournament playstyle, I wouldn't put in so much time on the game and watching stuff related. T7 is not beginner friendly, without watching guides or somebody training you, I think is pretty much impossible to be good at Tekken.
What character?
@@Qwuiet Right now:
Feng
Hwoarang
King
Kazuya
Paul
Heicachi
Dragunov
Bryan
Bob
Lars
Leo
Armor King
Lidia
Lili
Jack 7
Kazumi
Jin
Akuma
Shaheen
Josie
Steve
Law
Julia
Miguel
Marduk
Lee
Negan
Kunimitsu
Ganryu
M. Raven
Geese
Leroy
U need a main tho, if u don’t have a main you’ll struggle in long sets because I can put you in situations where you don’t know how to deal with things because you have less experience with certain characters, there are atleast 2 characters you play better than all of them without question, u can’t main the whole cast
@@Kwuivery Yes, I have a character which I am very comfortable with, Feng even if I dont play him for like 1 month, I am always ready and comfortable to play him, I started maining him like 8 months before Knee won Evo with him
@@Demon_Aura what rank are you now?
One of the most important things I learned was neutral strategies: keepout beats rushdown beats wait beats keepout. You rush in to 50/50, opponent does keepout move and you get launched. Instead you wait and whiff punish that keepout. But waiting loses to 50/50. Watch what your opponent likes to do in and counter their main strategy. And never just play one of these. Opponent will figure it out and counter it.
I think it's very true to acknowledge your achievements that lead you to getting better. I still remember the first time I low parried a low when they tried to finish me off at low health and I would make a comeback. The first time I pulled that off they plugged during the rage art ender.
Don't worry about the video being too long. I wish it was longer. Every tip you have given me has me rethinking my strategy. Thanks as always.
Agreed
0:55 I never got desperate, i just got confused like- am i supposed to do something? I can't even find an opening on my opponent
8:45 But... i can't even attack, i basically only block... Man, if this franchise ever had a Guard meter, i'd go to sleep with my diaphragm hemorrhaging
13:09 For Tekken 7, i've played with
-Jin (When i'm feeling normal)
-Devil Jin (When i'm having a bad day)
-Kazuya,
-A little bit of Heihachi,
-Eliza (one of my favorites)
-Noctis
-The random selection, because i usually play random with my friends just for some shits and giggles
-And of course, Akuma (he was my first one)
As for Tekken 8 (cuz' this video is 2 years old) i usually play with
-Jin (When i'm feeling normal)
-Devil Jin (When i'm having a bad day)
-Jun (My main)
-Reina
-Sometimes Lee (Cuz' he's MARVELOUS)
-Sometimes Leroy
-Sometimes Azucena
-Sometimes Dragunov
-And maybe i'll play Heihachi once i can afford him (Fighting game DLCs need to stop)
16:08 ...Sure, noted (KAZUYA IS BETTER THAN THIS)
22:40 Probably the hardest tip to follow, still... also noted
I couldn't handle online to start with. I really wanted to get violent when I lost.
Around 3-4 months in, playing in practice mode, accepting I don't know everything, getting excited about learning a new counter. Man, it's a completely different feeling.
Lost an entire rank to a Lili player, but I was happy to have the last two rounds be 2-3 instead of 0-3.
Getting hung up on one game is like getting hung up on that one time in life where you tripped.
As a beginner Tekken player and an FG noob in general, I think the first two tips are invaluable.
I spam attacks because I feel unsure how to block mixups, and so autopiloting is a sort of bad coping mechanims.
Staying calm is so important to being able to block and not spam. Thanks for the tips, TMM.
I have been playing tekken for like 2years and I have watched many many many punishment guides and tutorials and all those learning tekken videos but I can say this without a doubt that this is one of the best basic advice video, thank you tmm, MASKUU!!!!
Don't ever worry about your rank. It will ruin your life if you do. Just concentrate on learning.
And if you think about ranks you won't try anything different so you won't advance.
Rank is there only to give you opponents that are close to your level and in the long run your rank will be higher anyway if you don't care about ranks but only enjoy learning the game.
Facts!
Thanks. I started taking Tekken seriously about a week ago after being a casual for so many years. I've watched pros and such play since TTT2 and have always wanted to be at that level and so I started putting in the work. Got to Grandmaster with Dragunov excited to get to green ranks but I got demoted to 3rd Dan. It demoralized me but now I'll go with a different mindset.
@@luicifiero bro fkin go for it. I dabbled in drag a few months ago. Went into casual mode with Kazuya for shits an giggles, but ran into drags at yellow ranks and higher, all the way into red and blue ranks. Won a few rounds even being at marauder at average and my own drag was at mentor. They showed me shit that got me so hyped. Went into ranked after labbing and made it from mentor to warrior with drag the next day 🤘
Yes it s true befoure I was worry about rank,then I was very tired,sad,becouse some good players takes my rank down again and "here we go again"😂 but now I quit rank games,I jus playing tekken and learning some combos and stuff like that👍😀
MainMan with the Tekken 1 lore battle between Kazuya and Paul
always asume your oponent is better than you.
that's what keeps me sane
That's a great tip. My motto is close to that because i always tell my self that the opponents will be doing the cheapest tricks and flowcharts as they can and it's ok, that's what i try to do to them too. And to every cheap move there are solutions, and most of the time the cheaper the tricks feel, the bigger the punishment opportunities are once i learn about them.
I can tell you, TMM, this video IS helping me a lot, I'm watching it like once or twice in a day and it helped me to improve A LOT mainly for the tip 1 and 2, funny how I started applying it to my games with Lidia and I've finally reached Genbu, I'm pretty happy, thank you a lot.
You not just helped me to really understand the game, but you also helped me to have fun even while losing matches, some days ago I was even hurting myself for losing matches and I was autopiloting a lot, now I'm learning what my opponents can do and reacting to them properly.
Seriously, TMM, I cannot express how much I'm grateful for this video, thank you so much.
I actually started developing health problems after playing this game
Survival of fittest
I’m sorry, but this actually made me laugh. I became a Tekken Addict myself 😊
Weenie hut jr
My advice is to lab the move you hate being hit by and practice an effective punish for it until its second nature. Snake edge like move are popular in low ranks, so start training yourself to block it on reaction. Visually break down the animation.
People in lower ranks don't crouch enough anyway.
@@Eskolol honestly there are a lot of mids that you dont want to get hit by. Paul's existence and being the most popular character online proves that. You dont wanna duck him often.
@@Messatsu01 he’s so fucking annoying, some of his sweeps and lows I can’t really tell and always like a milli second late to block 🤦🏽♂️
@@Eskolol i remember using miguel's SAV soccer kick 5 times in a row on a few people, only to switch into the launcher afterwards and have killed them because of it
you aren't wrong
@@Messatsu01 Same goes for Heihachi I think.
Small little thing that I did was to stop being too precise with your punishment, make your mind up and be ready with your ten frame standing and your 12 or 13 while standing punish. And learn the launch punishable moves , that way you can guarantee that you get around 50-60 damage off of punishment alone and that helps a lot. Don’t always go for a precise punishment because in online play with lag you might miss or get blocked entirely.
Yeah i still remind myself not to do this always
I seear some people start lagging on purpose, crystal clear connection until i start applying heaps of pressure, then boom im playing in slow motion and they’re spamming launchers that are somehow landing
Can’t stress how right TMM is about blocking - blocking and low-blocking should be the first thing you need to learn, followed closely with low-parrying.
The little things are crazy. I think I played a match where I got a perfect on someone who was pretty damn good, but I lost the match. Sure I lost, but the victory of getting a perfect on him was honestly the only thing I could remember. Same thing with another person I played against where we had tons of back and forth, making it a really fun match. But surprisingly when I checked, I won every match I played against him. I didn't even know I won, I was just enjoying our matches to much to even care if I won or not
This is exactly what online matches should be about - having fun!
Coming from Anime Fighters. Tekken is the most relaxing fighting of all time for me. Nobody is air dashing at me, nobody teleport behind me. I just chill✌️
Akuma and Geese enters in the chat...
@@Demon_Aura lmao hahahaaa so true
Yeah, I felt like coming home again going back to tekken after dbfz 😌
@@Demon_Aura yoshi too
Man, my first serious fighting game was GGS, which is so unforgiving for input (pot main here). Tekken is definitely complex, but its way more relaxing with its more relaxed and abundance of strings.
Great explanation on these five basic concepts. One thing I would add about Korean backdashing, is when you're learning, try learning to sidestep cancel first. BD>SS>BD. it'll help you get the cadence down for Korean backdashing and has the added utility of moving you away from the wall. Additionally, when you're new, when you're KBD is sloppy during a match, you can always fall back on sidestep canceling.
I too get tilted when a character I don't see often starts to speak enchantment table
I’m a struggling player and Tekken ruined my life. Broke my wrist and I can’t make love anymore. My holographic wife took the cats. I can’t sleep at night with some bum with pointy hair dashing in front of me yelling “dorya”
Justin Wong said that a victory is landing a combo online that you've been practicing even if you don't win the match.
Thanks for making this video man! I just got back into Tekken a while ago and I could use this to get better when I continue to play the game.
I urge everyone, pro or beginner to watch this. Even is you are already aware of everything stated, it will be a nice reminder. Enjoy the game and have fun that’s what it’s all about
I'm so close to reaching red ranks for the first time after changing characters. I changed to Lee, who never really appealed to me but after diving deeper into his gameplay I started loving him. So guys... Learn new characters
Hey @tmm Im in Canada, so I couldn't usually catch your stream since it's in the middle of the night here for me. But I just wanna say I really appreciate all the uploads on TH-cam. AIISHHHH!
I don't think I'll ever be good at Tekken 🥺
But I enjoy the characters and story and it's fun to watch 💕
don't underestimate yourself. many tekken players have played for years, and some have tons of hours just on tekken 7
If you play on play station we can work on it. I bet money its a mental block more than anything and you can absolutely figure it out if you can recognize what your problems are. Anybody can do it with enough honest work, its also working smart not just working hard, people put too many hours of work into the wrong stuff and do themselves a disservice.
Valuable video right here. Picked up Tekken near the end of 7 and goin’ in hard with 8.
I spent my first month of tekken finding a character that i found easy to use and enjoyable, Julia. Got to green ranks in that first month, then i spent 2 months mastering punishment and BIGBOI combos with my main, while also practicing with my secondary character, Noctis. Got to Vanguard and was stuck there for a while. The thing that took me to the next level was learning new characters, so in my 4th month i started learning Eliza, because i thought her combos were awesome. Got her to Vanguard and couldn't go any further. Then i learned Anna, got her to Vanguard, got stuck again. Went back to Julia, this is about 8 months in, SKYROCKETED from Vanguard to Vanquisher in 2 days. Went back to Anna, got her to Juggernaut. Learned Leo after patch 5.0, just because. Now im about 1 year into my tekken experience, just learned Miguel last week, gonna take Anna back into ranked soon to hopefully finally reach red ranks.
I would say the BIGGEST thing that got my out of green ranks was learning how to BLOCK more effectively, learned to WATCH my opponents moves, learn their tendencies and punish them. Also when you fight against a character that you know the matchup for, LOW PARRY every time you know there is a low coming. Learn your optimal low parry combos and learn your best wall combo and get oki
Keep it up man i was in your place not too long ago and i made it to red ranks you can do it too
DLC Lol
@@niteliteyt4737 considering the current state of the game im not playing any characters that anyone would consider overpowered and all of the "dlc" characters i use are actually tekken characters, at least i never used fahk or leroy
Now try getting out of green ranks on a mishima :p
My big one was pick a character that you actually enjoy my main is yoshimitsu not because he’s good but because when I win it makes me feel smart
5:46 this is so important. That was the time when i learned to get much calmer, when ranking up but losing more. Great Ego Training
Love these kinds of videos. It really goes to show how much depth there is to Tekken, but also that one can conquer this depth if you just approach the game correctly.
Mainman, such a spot on video, so good. My two biggest issues definitely are the mental rage (normally when I get beaten by someone I feel is not very skilled but I don't know the match up, especially the feeling of being bad against spammy bs moves ...oh so much rage!) and maximising combo damage, I knew a few but I seem to never get the max damage combos down, which is very frustrating.
I'd just like to add the blocking is definitely correct, but you won't always bypass the b's spamming even if u block a lot , I do still agree with the point he made.
dude, I'm watching you for 2 - 3 years and your materials are still, personal opinion :), the best if we're talking about tekken community :) thanks a lot !!!
My biggest problem in Tekken is to keep calm and don't get stressed. I'm basically not new in Tekken (80+ hours in tekken). And still I drop a lot of combos and get punished because of panicking. I'm playing smash ultimate a lot. I have thousand of hours gameplay and a lot of knowledge but compared to Tekken it's not that stressful. This video helps me a lot. Thank you so much for the advices.
The best thing to do right in the beginning is to forget ranks completely. Yeah play ranked because it's the best for even matches but don't look at the ranks. They mean absolutely nothing.
And don't play the game to win matches and get angry when you lose because you will start to hate the game quickly if you do that.
Only play the game to enjoy the learning process and only compare your level to yourself months ago. Learn one fundamental thing at a time and always keep learning and counting small steps in learning as victories.
@@epicon6 yes thanks I'm definetly doing that for sure. Tekken is so much fun only if I don't get that panic. I need to keep calm my biggest problem. I need to improve my self. I also watched a lot of TheMainManSWEs guides he also tells that ranks are not important, play patiency and calm and learn step by step the fundamentals of tekken and the character who fits to you. Thanks a lot I'll keep going
@@epicon6 Ong, this is me on Tekken 7, I really should stop doing that, but it don't matter anyway since I wanna start fresh on Tekken 8.
Deserves a like if for no other reason that the top tip is keep your cool. I suggest these personal challenges if you are stuck or plateau'd:
- When you match anyone way lower skill than you, jab twice successfully and try to win by turtling until timeout with a life lead win. It will force you to focus on defense at all times and make it normal, which carries over to all other matchups.
- Force yourself to commit to a day of not using juggles at all now and then, if not regularly. It will force you to focus explicitly on fundamentals, which are too easy to ignore if you only ever need two openings to win and teach yourself to play that way.
- Mess with the opponents head. Do dumb stuff on purpose when it's safe to teach them to look for exploits that aren't really there, which translates into punishment openings when they predictably walk right into a sloppy pattern you did on purpose as bait. Throw unsafe moves on purpose, but only when you know they can't punish, particularly those that have a safe 50/50 alternative. Train your opponent to think you are less skilled, sloppier, and more reckless than you actually are, then tighten up on demand to exploit their response.
- Take at least the first round to read your opponent's preferences. Everyone leans primarily on their strengths. Spend the rest of the fight doing everything you can to force them to do anything else except that, whatever that is for that specific opponent. This will flat out crush any opponent that is a one trick pony, and put everyone else who isn't at the highest levels on their back heels. Use throws to force turtles to get aggressive, which throws them off their game quickly. Use frame traps to force aggressive players to turtle, which they almost always do pretty poorly. Use Oki setups and spacing control to shut down grapplers. Ideally make them do what they are worst at, but at least not what they are best at.
- Embrace getting stomped by who you don't know. Eat it up. Turtle as best you can, then watch your replays and lab what you sucked at until you don't. You only need to understand how to defend against what a skilled player functionally uses for mixups and punishes. The entire rest of the move list for any character you don't intend to play is a waste of time and a distraction.
I have been using Armor King for the past year. Being a little bit more methodical and using defense has helped me out quite a bit. TY Mainman!
I agree with everything in this video, except for maybe the last tip. I think a lot of players focus way too much on combos and optimizing for maximum damage. It's easy to have a severe lack of understanding of how to set up your combos and how to space yourself appropriately. Sure, more damage = better, but my point is new players are often very intimidated and feel like combo knowledge is the biggest barrier to entry, when in reality, being able to defend and punish when you have an opportunity is way more important for actually getting better at the game.
Really liked the video. really loved the part where you gave simple tipps for a specific hero!! As a new player it's very helpful having you explain stuff wich is just obvious. ty!!!
Good info for newcomers….. when I unintentionally smurf red ranks with characters I’m unfamiliar with, I often beat them in the clutch because they panic. Either they throw out a bad rage art or they freeze up and allow me to throw them. Staying calm is the biggest key.
as a player that has begun picking up tekken 7, These tips are very well needed. Thanks a bunch!
I wish i saw this 1.5 years ago and also had other players sharing their experiences because it took me basically a 1000 hours of raging to learn that ranks don't matter at all and losing doesn't matter at all. Only enjoying the slow process of learning one thing at a time and only counting progress/learning as winning.
Not raging and not caring about ranks is the biggest win you can ever have when playing Tekken online. Then compared to the players who are beating you and teabagging you (because they are sad inside), your mind and your mental is at Tekken God Omega level and their mind is at 1st dan.
Such a fan of yours - always great advice and simplifying concepts instead of overwhelming people with frame data. Love it!
Just picked up T8 after not playing Tekken since T7 came out and I feel like a beginner again, videos like these help me get back into it again. Not necessarily related to T8 but its pretty much the same advice would apply
I saw this live, but man this was timed to perfection. Just came out of a ranked session and a 5k wins King at Vanguard tilted me quite hard.
Thanks as always TMM!
5k stuck at that rank HOW
@@itachi1165 He has figured out how to smurf well propably or he is braindead :)
@@itachi1165 Either stuck or deliberately reduces their rank to remain at it. Either way, it ruins games for people like me that are still developing their fundamentals. I took some games off of them only because I know the match up really well (my brother is a King main and I've probably played hundreds of matches against it xD)
And also, effective use of DF1 is essential and allows you to set the tone for 75% of matches. Find a way to incorporate this into your gameplan
Not with kazuya lol
i'd actually love to see a video featuring the kind of tips you offered for vsing kazuya, eddy/xiao yu, bryan/lee etc, but for every character, they were all really helpful tips i hadn't realised and would probably make any matchup a lot more bearable if i had something so easy and concise to remember
This is awesome! Thank you for the tips. 💙
Can't believe this video I watched long time ago and the one about Dota 2 actually helped me with Tekken 8 now as I was stressed out playing Devil Jin against Reina's 222 string and some other new characters (old one that stressed me the hell out is definitely gonna be Jin and his dang down 2). So I remembered about this video today and tried to do the same approach with the thought of whatever with ranked bruh, just learn and lab. God the feeling of playing, discovering, punishing and learning is weirdly enough feels like it was not stressing me out anymore due to me trying to understand what I did wrong.
Except if my opponent have a potato PC and they just forcing the graphic high up there so the game looking heavily jittery. But despite all of that, I think I can finally have fun with Tekken 8 and learning instead of just shutting down my head and almost playing blindly. Thank You for this old video
Crazy I haven’t played tekken in years but still watch your videos! Keep it up
Tekken where even moving requires a PhD.
Hands down the best tekken youtuber.
Wonder why he went with Lei's command history in the thumbnail when he could just have easily gone with Kazuya's
He probably just grabbed whatever he had screenshotted
I wanna enjoy and relax. I don't want to take a f*cking exam. I'll just enjoy watching Tekken and playing casually. Too many stressors in life already, ain't gonna get mad over 3D characters fighting each other for a pretty much useless rank.
This is very true. I've stared playing Tekken in 1997 (Tekken 3), Only started playing serious in 2004 (Tekken 5). From Tekken 5 up to Tekken 6 BR (2004-2011), my highest ever rank was 3rd dan, never reached blue ranks. I only reached blue rank in Tekken Tag 2. The first time I ever reached Green rank was in 2018 (1 year after Tekken 7 FR). I only reached yellow and orange rank this year 2022.
Getting better at Tekken is a game of patience. It took me 14 YEARS to reach Green rank and another 4 years to reach yellow and orange rank
I'm a beginner player and I just realized I watch my character over the other players, and as soon as I swapped to looking at the opponent, I definitely started doing better. Idk why it was a thing. Maybe from watching tutorial stuff all the time and trying to learn whatever fighting game I like. (Just adding this tidbit for other new players hehe)
I did this for a while as well. Once you're fully acclimated to your char you can start to focus on theirs a lot more. This is also when you can start trying to break throws more consistently by looking at their hands. Regardless, good advice, but don't be afraid to take this development slow.
@@Seatek_Ark I couldn't for the life of me understand how I was supposed to punish or break throws. Somehow I finally realized that I wasn't look at the other player. I was playing a whole different game than the other people lol. I'm excited to see how much better I can do.
>pick lucky chloe
>go online, mash
>laugh at their pain
I've got way better with exactly the points Mainman talked about, it's took ages learning this yourself so this is a great video for newcomers
Hey MainMan, I'm thinking about getting into Tekken and your content is great. Thank you
Bro the wake up autopilot tip is soo true. I win soo many matches because of tech roll mixups/setups at the wall
Can't agree much more on your first point. I feel like more than half of my tekken progress came from 2012-2015 when I used to play on TTT2 arcades almost daily despite playing from Tekken 5 through 7 (skipped 6 because I didn't have a gen 7 console). Playing irl, facing your opponent face-to-face really kept your mental checked, since you can't just throw a fit in public. There were moments when I beat orange ranked players even though I was only a Mentor, all only by pokes and mixups. While here in the comfort of my home I have no restraints (nothing severe, I mostly scream into my pillow lol). There is no game as rage inducing as Tekken, even though I'm fully immune to toxicity in every of the competitive FPS that I play.
My brother told me have fun, and backlash, that shit got me to TGP
This is arguably the best Video you've ever made
found this vid at the perfect time, was frustrated with the game and then this vid popped into my feed… thank you mainman
Thank you Main man You don't know how much this helps me improve on the game ❤❤❤😎
I learn yesterday that Jin’s B3 counter hit some Steve’s important options like his D1 and B1 of course with good timing from neutral
No one can block everything. Keep calm and take notes of which moves people are abusing and you will find counters to them. Tell yourself that it's fine if you didn't react to something or get caught by a knowledge check. You will get better and at some point you will counter all the bullshit like its nothing.
Unlce mainman giving solid life advice here
I want to add that dash guard is also a good strategy for extracting information about your opponent safely. Do they spam keepout moves? What moves? Do they let you in for free to do 50/50?
Really great tips, thank you a lot, Mainman
I definitely needed this video. I was at 60% at the beginning of the year, green ranks. Now finally at vidicator I'm down to 50% lol.
thanks for putting the music in the description dude!!!
The issue with the first piece of advice is that once you really start being calm and loving the small accomplishments, you start to care more about having fun playing the game than about improving. I mean, you would be improving an insane amount, but that stops being the only goal of playing.
16:08 whoa this chapter just got me super excited because for the first time my mind opened up to how i should approach different matchups!🎉
The last portion was mega helpful. Tekken tips would be a great video.
The thing I find tough is just the speed Tekken demands of the player. The game demands you react to things in split seconds which is really only possible if you’ve built up muscle memory from practicing one specific thing for hours and hours. It’s one thing to recognise a move, it’s another thing to then know the correct punish to utilise, but then it’s another thing entirely to actually be able to execute the punish when it happens in a match. Things are happening so fast, you have to respond to animations like a robot. It’s often I do the correct punish but it’s too late and I’m already being blown up by the next move. Respect to anyone who has developed the skill of playing Tekken well.
I had a goal of getting to mid green ranks and started playing Tekken seriously, I had the game on PC since launch and had put in 33hrs total. Took me 7-8 weeks to reach warrior with Katarina and now have a play time of 138hrs. Watched lots of videos and had a solid combo that could work off of all launchers/counter hits. Now I can do the more optimized and harder combos but have not applied it much yet, that will be my next goal. Frame trap setups helped tons. The hardest thing about Tekken for me is having the character knowledge cuz there's so many, did lab some annoying ones but it's still hard. Very rewarding game, can't wait for T8.
warrior with kat isn't an achievement lol
You playing Tekken 8?
of course@@Firjiwater
Tip1: never autopilot. Every single one of your moves should have a purpose.
Tip2: find your characters BEST moves and use them, check which are the top5 moves pro-players use with your character if you don't know how to find them. There's a reason why they are the best. They are probably combining several properties in one move: it's safe, ch launcher, fast, good tracking, leaves you at frame advantage, etc
Tip3: in Tekken you can either Steal the opponent turn, Evade, Mix-up. It's a rock paper scissors game. Steal the opponent turn beats mix-up but losses to evasion. Evasion beats stealing the opponent turn but losses to mix up, mix up beats evasion but losses to stealing the opponent turn.
Extra funny tip: you should not block lows, if you think a low is coming you can beat it with a fast high or a fast mid (if the low crushes highs). You should only block low if you have no other choice (after being knocked down and you techroll and the Kazuya is already wavedashing on your face )
Tekken is the Quake of fighting games. You just gotta keep at it until you reach a level of knowledge where you can basically smell the opponents intentions.
And at that point, you can finally begin to play the actual game.
I'm 60 hours into Tekken 7 and this is my first Tekken. I was on a loss streak 10+ with Asuka and felt extremely frustrated but this video helped me get a win back since I started slowing down. I defo need to play more into other characters but I'm grateful this video came up just now as I defo needed the mentality talk all I kept thinking was playing was ofc I'm gonna lose other people know better than me they know exactly what I'm bout to do and I was discrediting just having a better defence. Lets hope I can keep improving ahah from being a noob ahah
Well done friend i appreciate your videos. I am a blind Tekken player since 1998 when I was 13 or `4. I see the chanhes in Tekken even as my blindness decreases, I see it and expereince it different than anyone else. I have won 7 minor tekken tournament and competeted with many f the Tekken tour players and gone better than 50% against them plus have a better than 90% WIN PERCENTAGE IN TEKKEN 5DR and Tekken 6. I've never though i was ready to fight a character until i mde tekken king offline in DR now that i study frame data i know i am different and special however the amount of characters and the learning curve since tekken tage tiill now with my learning disability of being bling has me smh . There need to more stability really however you have most of the methods i use to master tekken being blind. I love videos like this rarely do i get a person who ask me how i do what i do and my process so my perspective is not typical but philosophyjkd is a practical and scientific approach to fighting. Thus i will beat most tekken player as they do not know how to fight however Jeet Kune Do Look at side stepping over blocking as bloocking allows yyour oppenent to set tempo.
I would recommend to analyse your gamplay while playing in terms of Risk. Every button you push has a risk to it. Maybe something is very risky but it works most of the time since people don't have the knowledge in your league.
Then the same will stop working because the risk to reward is highly deminished.
Playing more low risk is generally more rewarded the higher you clime the ranks.
Then also look what risk your opponent takes. Many online players do high commitment counter hit moves that are too risky but work since people are not patient enough.
I don't worry about rank I play to learn the characters
For me the hardest part so far is execution, i'm new to the game and not used to play with pads. Simple things like qc inputs or mid combo dashes which continue with an forward input (for example ff f1 turns into a ff1) are like hell. Sadly the practice mode doesn't show the exact timings for the input, that would be helpful.
Which character are you talking about?
You can play with keyboard if youre more used to that, its really good
@@tongpoo8985 i'm playing mostly local with friends, keyboard wouldn't work there. I'm getting the hang with pad, but it just takes a good while
@@imikoimo6685 if you’re playing on console you should get the razor fight controller
@@Demon_Aura for example gigas, his sample combo d+2, f+12, db+32, f+211, after db32 is a dash or mini dash (don't know the difference). So if I try to connect f12 after the dash (ff f211) I get ff2 or fff2.
Same goes for his bnb combo d+2, f,f+4,2 2,1,3+4 GS 4,1 S! df+1+2,1+2, same scenario, after GS41 comes a dash into df1+2 but I simply can't connect the df1+2, it's always too early or too late but never in time
Great video. The mansioned about defence. That is the reason why i block. To learn the match up. And see the moves and deal with them.
This teachings also applies to other FG. Thank you!
Great video. Hope that this video and tips will help myself in the future, because i have been long time didn't play Tekken since T6. Greetings from Malaysia.
Another thing that helps get some wins I dont deserve, is watching hyped pro matches. After Ash won EVO and was all the rage. You bet your ass plebs started trying to play like him, with the same flow charts (but without pro movement and pro defense). And knowing what moves are going to come next is the greatest thing since sliced chicken. Make sure to chicken against Oscar.
I played Steve so much, but I would have never gotten as good at playing him if I never tried other characters. Maybe it's because it forced me to practice fundamentals, or the brain categorized moves and, when you play other characters, you learn their identities and gain new knowledge/categories of certain move archetypes, otherwise talked about as "tools" that a character can have. I came back to Steve playing him completely differently after I mained Bryan, Geese, Jin, etc... and I'm suddenly ridiculously better at Steve than I used to be without even practicing him that much in between.
Practicing Heihachi's OTGF helped me perform Kazuya's PEWGF a lot better. When I got back to steve, my execution was so refined due to playing these other characters that the "Shiro combo" became easy. Geese's raging storm off of a jab is not so hard. Just keep branching out and finding new discoveries, that will always help.
But the most important thing is time, man. I put 1100+ hours to git gud, that's ridiculous lmao but I'll never not be a fan of Tekken so that's perfectly fine with me
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Hey man i’m about to get the game and ive never played a tekken game before
Steve looks really fun because i’m a big fan of fast boxers who hit hard
What would you recommend I do?
Should i try out other ‘easier’ characters first
1st tip: channel ur inner anger to help you win by any means necessary
2nd tip: block is for newbs.. be aggressive.. spam aka knowledge check.. throw all nina strings with eyes closed n u win cuz the game itself is built so..
3rd tip: throw out ur mains.. dont play char u like.. play char which the game wants u to win with.. until they get nerfed.
4th tip: this is a game n not ur college.. dont study.. just press buttons. if u are entertained.. continue.. if not switch to doa.
5th tip: just buy hitbox or mixbox .. easy kbd.. the game wants u to kbd.. make it easy for urself.. its not cheating to keep urself sane
Think you need to remake this video for T8 if you haven’t. People raging is a huge problem. Myself included I get super frustrated.
The one thing to rank up and be successful is put in the time and yeah Teaching helps you learn more and accept defeat, having a convo with the characters you lose too makes it a lot better, went from genbu to raijin and my goal was tekken king and this wasn’t even everyday lab or practice it was just rank here and there less than 5 times a month, breaks help and watching pros helps with your character
I'm a new player, have had the game 2 weeks. Made it into Grandmaster and promo game for next rank, as soon as I saw the Eddy in the loading screen I knew I was doomed I've ran into a couple and it never ends well for me. Managed to take him 2-3 just by guessing on and blocking lows but it's been a while since a game has had my heart racing like that lol.
Backdash a lot, even just back back spam is all right, and be ready to whiff punish, only that basically easily "carried" me to yellow rank
Very good advise man...I recent was just playing block games and I came across hworang, boy he beat me 6 games in a row and I was annoyed, after a break I got him again but this time I new how to counter him cause I was more Calm.....there's a lot of truth to what you are saying here and I hope others listen man......thanks again.
2:00 This is hella true.