I'm a very patient guy, but sometimes tekken frustrates me too much and I start playing more aggressive and predictable. So my tip is to not play very salty, when we're angry we do a lot of dumb decisions and that is very dangerous.
The Tip with not caring about ranks is the most helpful I think. I was stuck in Vanquisher for like a month, then I took a two month brake and when I started playing again i went straight to Byakko. Before I stopped playing I was raging hard, but when I came back I almost didn't show any emotion.
my file was corrupted when i was fujin, and i was sad that my 1 year+ progress, but then i started ranked again without caring about losing. i got back up to fujin within a week, now im yaksha
This is honestly straight up life advice. I cant tell you how awful it feels to lose something you are passionate about because you took it way to seriously and way too far. Remember having fun with it
Jesus Christ man I literally lost my last job because of that recently. Beating myself up over every little mistake that I eventually broke down straight up and was told not to come back because of the severity of the mental breakdown it was BAD and in that state to begin with I fully agree with their decision as much as it broke me to have to leave that job. Now I'm just back to a standard simple 9-5 that I have no passion for and I'm just less happy than I was to begin with anymore. I took my break being unemployed, but bills don't pay themselves so life goes on 😒 That said, I like laughing at myself how angry I used to get losing in Tekken when I was a kid. These days losing in Tekken is the least of my worries LOL
I think your advice is really good because I was stuck at Byakko for like a month, However after a break I was able to get to Eternal Ruler which is where I’m currently at. Your advice is so helpful whenever I play Tekken 7.
also I feel a great tip that has helped me improve over time is to have a main that you genuinely enjoy, it makes you labbing your character (finding out setups, movelist familiarity, etc.) much more fun rather than sticking with top tiers and not enjoying the process
I've been having a bunch of fun going back to T5DR for the past few months. It's unfortunate that I don't have people to play with but the limited move lists helps me with frame data and optimal punishes, the better movement has been helping me train my defenses. I've been playing since t3 as a king main but going back to 5 and only using Mishimas has been really helping my gameplay overall. (Trying to play king in 5dr after getting used to him in 7 is like an entirely different character. Even I don't like how strong he is in season 4 lol)
this was probably some of the best advice i’d ever gotten, first time ive seen immediate improvement. i slowed it down and went into quick matches and now i not only feel better but also playing better too, thank you!
I made it to Fujin for the first time last week. Never thought I get this far with Josie as i always get opponent that dont press buttons during switch stance or just fuzzy guard.
My first main in T7 was Josie. Just hit fuijin with Kuni 2 weeks ago. Can’t imagine playing Josie in these ranks, counter hit baiting is difficult, although not impossible because there’s still a ton of trash players in these ranks. You should switch characters, I bet you’ll shoot straight to emperor with the fundamentals you’ve learned from Josie.
The point that you made in the beginning really resonates with me and my Disc Golf game. A lot of shots that used to stress me out seem trivial after a break.
Having people to just spar with is super important, especially opponents that can critique you. Instead of queuing for ranked and doing one-and-dones constantly, you gotta find someone who can play entire sets at a time with you, just back to back to back. If you're gonna lab, in the wise words of Sajam, you lab to solve problems.
I totally agree, not caring about your rank is the key. I had a big issue in Tekken with getting too attached to the outcome of the match. S to not care as much If I win or lose I would say to myself before the match starts, I hope my opponent does well. The opposite of what I used to think lol. When I do this I feel like I actually play to my full potential.
This is a great video. I literally just played Sperogin, and pretty much he echoed the same thing mainmanswe just said. Don't be so eager to attack and let the opponent expose themselves 1st sometimes.
Big thing: You need to understand that you do NOT play ranked to get better at the game. Also understand that no one cares about your rank. A shit ton of bad players have a high rank and there’s even bad players that have Tekken god Prime. Learn how to win without using your gimmicks and getting carried. Can you win then? Can you win based off tekken fundamentals? Or do you need your characters op moves? That’s when you know if you are even kind of good. Just came here to say this and hopefully some newbie players or players hoping to get better will see. You will get better 1000% faster in practice mode than you will playing online. You’d just have to know what to practice and not say “ok I just did like 25 combos in a row it’s time for some ranked”. Easiest mistake.
That part about learning how to win without gimmicks is so true. When first starting out, I could tell that I would have a much easier time getting wins by spamming Snake Edges and 1+2 Grabs as Dragunov, because I noticed that many players at that low of rank couldn’t deal with it. So I deliberately kept the usage of those to a bare minimum, if at all, in order to improve my fundamentals and I feel that did a lot to help in my learning process.
I played against an Anna (as Kazuya) today about 6 games and our score went like 4-2 (I lost) because she was spamming some low strings that knock down and mixed up one mid that hits lying down opponents and a parry (I think it was a parry, not exactly that familiar with all character moves yet) but even though I lost on score, I managed to predict a lot of her attacks and sidestep punish or even double low parry her once while she kept doing the same 3 moves. I don't care I lost, because I actually practiced my reflexes while this kid will stay at the same level for eternity.
@@MaskyFalle I play Kazuya and the only way for me to spam hellsweeps is if I see an opponent just block and punish the whole game, I mean yeah he has the "don't be agressive" mindset but fighting games are more than holding back and using jab
Not gonna lie I do that everytime I play ranked, boot up t7, jump into practice mode, spam my best tool/ what I find to be the hardest combo I can do, and as soon as I can do it consistently, I jump into ranked lmao, thanks for calling my bs.
Preaaaaach. I don’t give a flying fuck about my rank. I was a 2nd Dan for years but I could challenge people because I literally stayed in the lab. Labbing for defensive strategies is my gameplan and punishment .Everything else is just for show.
I just watched, and watched, and watched. And boi i got to divine ruler fast, AND now im away from ranked. God bless regular matches, going against tgps to learn, and somehow win. Getting guud.
Same. I put ranked down once I hit rulers and started learning other characters, labbing and doing player match against much better players. Now I'm way stronger with my main.
At 12:03 the music stops you can only hear Lucky Chloe and then the quick punches by Geese while TMM looks into the camera. Something about the moments is so comedic to me.
I got Eternal Ruler in 7 months of playing. I sat in practice and labed characters I struggled fighting the most and just went into ranked with a mindset of wanting to learn and not caring about my rank. I'm now Genbu with Negan and my Katarina is Eternal Ruler.
I'm writing this in hopes of helping someone who reads this: SO, as TMM mentioned, I periodically suffer from playing on auto pilot.. And the entire timeline of that period goes something amongst the lines of: recognizing my own mistakes and shortcomings improving on some of the things i recognized seeing a positive impact on my gameplay and matches (wins) putting some thought into how will i deal with people who can see this way of playing as pattern, to set up a potential mix up/changing my own rhythm/pace. testing it out. my brain sets it up as template that it's gonna pull out when things don't go my way. my brain automatically goes for things i improved on and uses templates i've thought of about a variety of situations i get frustrated because people download me. I take a break from the game so my brain resets and then i actually get my brain back and it's involved throughout the fights - recognize my own mistakes and shortcomings - rinse and repeat. take a break every now and then.. 2-3 days, it'll do you some good, i swear
So I tried this philosophy out recently. Not playing for rank. Really paying attention to what my opponent is doing, and what I'm doing. Playing for fun. It feels quite different, but was rather enjoyable.
"Ego is the antithesis of all growth." Whether its a good player or bad player always be willing to lose and even more willing to learn. Everyone can teach you something new. Swe is right you gotta be humble.
Constantly rematching is unbelievably helpful, especially against someone you have no chance against. I didn't know how to beat Law and Noctis for the longest so whenever I matched with one, I'd rematch and die over and over analyzing every move. And I'd get closer to the win every single time until I had mapped every move and how to counter it. Don't play Tekken with the sole intent to win AT ALL. Play everything as if it's a training match, but give it your all. Expect to lose and evolve. Tekken is more of an intellectual game than a fighting game, in my opinion. You have to constantly be thinking.
I flew through most ranks to Seiryu just by being patient and whiff punishing my overly aggressive opponents. I can't tell you how many times I have been insulted and called boring for winning in this way. I'm only Mighty Ruler and finding it challenging now but the journey to it wasn't all that difficult.
Just what I needed more of to hear. I never care about rank but I don't know the right questions to ask myself to improve, how to analyze an opponent, how to go about studying a match up.
Not caring about rank is important, but only because Tekken rank is broken. Don't take it as blanket advice for other games as well, since most games' ranked systems represent players' ranks pretty accurately. Dota 2 MMR I find to be extremely precise, at least for core roles, as a skill indicator. Here's why Tekken ranks don't mean shit: - No incentive to keep rematching, aside from competitive integrity or lack of players. A lot of times the same shit will happen - opponent plays some unfamiliar character, kills you horribly, then you figure out the character and start beating them. And just before/after you're able to beat them - they leave and take the points away. - Points gained/lost change as you rank up and down. If you play someone, lose couple times, they rank up, you demote. Suddenly, you're playing for 1/5 of the points per match, and have basically no way of getting the points back. - People savescum and reset ranks so often that your opponents rank actually doesn't represent how well they're going to play at all. You can farm several ranks from a bad savescummer, or get absolutely killed by someone who's obviously 5 colors above you. If you want easy high rank - pick the scummiest cheese character, blow people up with strings and cheese, never rematch if you're not 100% sure you'll win, plug people who you know can beat you during the load screen, savescum all the time, annoy people with taunts and ki charges. If you want to improve at Tekken - forget rank, it's as shitty and ass-backwards of a system as everything in Tekken. Just play.
@@carloshernandez3177 that and muscle memory. Although most if not all fps games require you to remember the maps, popular strategies, and what weapons and setup are best on different maps, it’s definitely a change when you have to remember 50+ combos, kill confirms, frame rates, what maps benefit your character or others, as well as character matchups. Shits like studying for the finals
@@saint.clair3308 and complicated mechanics too. Like some moves are -15 on block but have ridiculous push so it doesn't correlate to a standard 15f punish
That's partly because you've been playing shooting games all your life though, so you've already developed those skills. Fighting games seem harder as you have less experience with them. I'm the opposite actually. I play fighting games but rarely touch shooters, and shooting games feel difficult as hell to me. I tried Valorant for a few games and got ran over by random beginners... not to mention my team raging at me for having no clue what's going on. I can't imagine how good the actual pros must be. Truthfully, every competitive genre is super difficult if you're trying to be the best.
I started playing T7 about 3 months ago and some things I've learned. 1. Understand that this game is not beginner friendly and you will get frustrated beyond belief. 2. You need to put the work in. Study frames, strings, etc for ALL characters. 3. Work on movement(kbd) before practicing combos. It's tedious and not fun but worth it at higher levels. 4. Online is trash. Everyone presses buttons nonstop and 99% will leave after 1 win. No one wants to improve and play sets. You will lose to the dumbest, most gimmicky shit ever because you have no mu knowledge and have no clue what they're doing. You'll want to quit out of frustration over and over again. 5. If you have an offline scene go play offline!!!
online has lag and some wins come from you not getting a read on the next attack. Need practice for sure on low parry and not getting caught in juggle combos many seem to love trying to do.
I definitely work towards staying emotionally mature regarding this game. I think Tekken ranked is one of the most toxic cesspools of negativity that I have seen in a long, long time and people constantly throw out disrespectful, immature remarks and it is best to ignore them. I am certainly not great at this game and I do strive to become higher ranked in the game, and it is so awesome to just leave a "GG bro you are awesome" message to others even if I lose. Just because I am acknowledge the fact that I had an opportunity to learn something new, even if that thing was "I do not want to do that again."
Literally just came back to Tekken after 3 months and decided to pick up Kazumi. Been playing a lot of other fighters that requires a lot of patience and returning I'm realizing how impatient a lot of the players are in the game. Been kinda steamrolling a lot of ppl
Im new player on tekken and i know that feeling when u are against paul on ranked promotion match and he start to spamming those heavy attacks, my last two promotion match i have played against paul XD
@@jazu85 I'm still playing. My health issues are hard to elaborate about because I still don't know exactly what's wrong. I have Postrual orthstatic tachycardia syndrome so I constantly feel like I'm having a panic attack and I have a lot of weird symptoms that still havn't been explained to me. I probably should play more chill games but ever since I was small and I discovered Tekken 3 I have always loved playing Tekken. Except when I suck. Lol.
@@memebump7612 yeah i feel u, sometimes it feel like i have same kind of thing while playing tekken online, others games what i have played i dont have that kind of adrenaline feeling what in tekken when playing against others. XD
defensive, side stepping , throw counter and punishment stats are more important than tenacity , agility, rage usage, and agreesiveness stats. imo defense> punishment> throw counter> sidestep > rage usage> agility > aggressiveness > tenacity
I've been very passionate about Tekken 7 for 2 years but now... Things really changed. I couldn't care less about the game, the only way I would get hyped or interested is if they announce Tekken 8.
Very insightful video. The advice about not caring about rank is the most important. For example, I used to never rematch certain characters, because I hate playing vs them and don't wanna tank my rank. In fact, I would stress whenever I got matched vs them. But at some point I realised, I should stop being a little bish and play as much as I can vs them, cause that's the only way to learn how to beat them.
Fujin here, 16 years of tekken play. Lei is my main since tekken5DR. Best advice to bethe best that you can in tekken. First! Begin asking yourself this question. "Why am I playing tekken?" Maybe you want to have fun, perhaps you were inspired mainman. Figure out your why. Because your why will be the path that will lead you to your goals. Second learn your character weaknesses, and you as a player. Discover your bad habits. For example main man said stop pressing buttons and learn to be defensive. I fix that problem because of my ADHD. I had to learn to slow myself down and breath. Then learn the opponents character weaknesses and the moves you can counter or punish and whiff punish. The most important thing to learn fast. ITS OK TO LOSE AND GET SALTY BUT ITS NOT OK TO BLAME YOUR LOSSES ON SOMEONE ELSE. HAVE FUN.
Also I forgot to add this...Find your favorite all time tekken player. Study and analyze their matches. Example: My goal in tekken is to be know as the best Kazuya on the East coast and learn how to punish tricky characters. Step! Search for players who are in their top of the game with Kaz. That would be Mainman, Knee, Shrimboo from Pakistan. Step 2. Analyze the move the Kaz used while asking "How come Mainman chose that move in that situations?" Step 3. PRACTICE MODE! Record is your best friend! Copy the situation. And ask can I sidestep it, do I have enough frames to counter it? Or after blocking the most what would be the next move my opponent is like to do? Step 4 put your hard efforts to the test by doing a normal quick match. Test the strat om different characters and record the opponents reaction. Does he tend to back away? Does he like sidestepping? Can I use the move to bait a whiff? Does he know the move I used and if so how can I mix it up? Final step! YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE LIKE IT OR NOT, BUT YOU LOSING MADE YOU THAT MUCH CLOSER TO YOUR CHARACTER AND LEARNED WHEN TO USE THE MOVE NEXT TIME. Sorry for long comment. Super passionate about tekken that my nephews and nieces will play after school and never let them do drugs...only tekken.
he is right, i almost immediately went from green rank to orange rank after a two week break; i started to unconsciously low parry characters i've never even labbed before. It was weird
Yeah the mindset I'd say helps me is to always be learning. Always play differently every single match. If you're getting boddied, try new things every time. Figure out how your opponent is playing and see what they do well and what their weaknesses are and try new strategies.
There's also a mentality, instead of poking, you always use launcher moves, they usually are high/- on block, so use pokes instead of launchers everytime.
Unsurprisingly, this can be said for any fighting game, 2d, 3d; heck, even for Smash. Learn the fundamentals, and make your movement almost natural because people love to just press buttons. Don't mind rank, just play with heart.
I keep wondering why 5 bar people decline for no reason and then i see this video and think, yeah it's all just a bunch of youtubers doing tutorials lol
Ngl I usually take like 2 week breaks until I do it again and I literally won 5 matches in a row for me to go to overlord and today I am almost going back to destroyer which absolutely kills me I was like “nope I don’t want to do it now” and I’m getter better and blocked bottom moves which I am proud of myself and punish I do notice that if I keeping doing rank everyday I’ll be going back to the previous rank whereas when I took a break I can easily win. Thanks for the advice
What help me was never expecting to win and instead, going for simple "achievements" example with a match with Drag, his D2, if I can low parry that once I'm good and that's a win for me
i've recently gotten to the yellows with steve. I've not wanted to lose my rank but I also understand that in most cases I can win if I'm careful with my gameplay, barring certain match ups that are harder. But you gotta kinda love the grind and take it on the chin.
I don't know if anyone else plays Tekken like this, but I was never invested in Online Rank. My motivation was always to be the best among my peers IRL. A win over someone I can actually see and hear matters more to me than some rando online. Then again, I'm an oldhead whose first real XP was with Tekken 2, so the mindset could be called dated/casual and I don't plan on winning international tourneys. I have lots of fun though! 200% emotion every fight lol I like my sweets with a little salt.
I remember a fellow redditor once said Tekken is a game where you learn so movesets of a character to counter their gimmicks, but once you are in the high levels, no one would use those movesets. They become a cluster of unviable movesets. So developers just removing some of those movesets would be a good balance for new players to learn less in order to finally get a grasp. This learning of bloated movesets only to not use them in the end just creates artificial learning and sunk cost fallacy. In other games you just learn fundamentals and get straight into mind games. Like Rocket League
Something I do is have a goofy ass, gimmicky side character that I'll play when I'm tired of being a sweaty Mishima player. Mine is Kuma, I love him as a character and it's fun to beat people in the goofiest way possible. It's fun, and a good way to relieve some online stress.
I'm at Mighty Ruler. I don't have the motivation to rank up anymore but what I'm doing to get better and increase my knowledge is playing different characters. I have over a dozen characters at Mighty Ruler now. Got there pretty quickly with them with fundamentals, I don't get salty anymore, i don't get too sweaty and I have time to play other fighting games(where I play many characters per game too) and genres.
well depends , i get a lot angry when i hit many bad timings or when the enemies have huge openings and still manage to block jabs which are the fastest attacks , but sometimes that madness makes go all out and strike perfects with ease , like i was losing 0-2 against a king , got mad and hit 2 perfects in a row , it felt easier than hitting the dummy on practice mode lol
Honestly my mom drilled in hard that im not special she never really told me l was good at much of anything and any accomplishments l made were trivial, so while l want desperately to improve at something l just cant overcome years of mental conditioning, like genuinely l just don't feel like im very good at anything and whatever l try in all im ever going to achieve is mediocrity ive never had someone to push me to go further and l continue to not have that so l just feel like nothing is worth learning anymore because ill never be good at it :/
This is true. I have an extream learning curve after not playing for 2 years and especially having the balls to main jin for a while. 120 wins with him so far still 1st dan.
I get the rank part, what I'm having problems with is turtles. People that don't attack ever, or people that are only backdashing and not attacking ever, I don't have fun in Tekken against people that play like that
So true ✌️ my saying is the only way you'll learn is by losing alot. The more you get hit by a certain move, the more you'll react to punish more. How, why an when is my go to things, where can I improve an what am I doing wrong. Who should I use as a counter better then other characters 💪 gotta lose alot to win alot
I recently got back into tekken 7. I dont even care about my rank. If I am in the rank Im in, its because i deserve to be there. I am just trying to learn the game and im not as angry anymore after taking a LONG break.
A couple months ago i was stuck on the first green rank every time i went up a rank i got demoted instantly and was getting angry. I took a 2 month break came back and went to practice figured out some frames and labbed some gimmicks from other characters and ended up breezing through green ranks. I even took 4 games in a row vs this kaz who would always murder me.
@TheMainSwe. Nice advice! Good too know that i am using some of your advice. 1. What is my opponent doing. Are there moves hé does a lot. How can i punish it. I like too analyse my opponent.
Sorry about Lucky Chloe in the background doing her idle routine!
Im assuming this is the video you were talking about in the update video. Lmao. Chloe is going ham.
Almost made it unwatchable ngl.
Unforgivable. How dare you. Never give into Lucky Chloroform.
"learning how to count to 4 with chloe"
thought it was a twitch thing of yours lolz
TMM: Honest discussion
Geese: channeling inner demon
Chloe: vibin
PREDICTABO!
That's one heck of atmosphere
Sounds like a normal party
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Rank is temporary, Skill is forever
Rank is show and tell
Playing ranked makes you worse, you lose braincells
Casual feels like bashing my head in with a brick wall tho. What is a fair fight if you aren’t at the same level as your opponent?
That's true! As a Hwoarang player, l've been told l'm pretty aggressive
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I'm a very patient guy, but sometimes tekken frustrates me too much and I start playing more aggressive and predictable. So my tip is to not play very salty, when we're angry we do a lot of dumb decisions and that is very dangerous.
This game makes me want to kms lol
Omg same here 😁
Good advice
me too bro
Soooo true
Offense: maximize your options
Defense: minimize their options
Beautiful
Perfect strat my dude
Beautiful comment.
The Tip with not caring about ranks is the most helpful I think. I was stuck in Vanquisher for like a month, then I took a two month brake and when I started playing again i went straight to Byakko. Before I stopped playing I was raging hard, but when I came back I almost didn't show any emotion.
I took a 2 month break now im back in yellow rank from orange rank😭
my file was corrupted when i was fujin, and i was sad that my 1 year+ progress, but then i started ranked again without caring about losing. i got back up to fujin within a week, now im yaksha
I wonder if you can stay clearheaded and emotionally detached while playing the game long term without having to take breaks from the game.
It's so true..
@@lagmaster12 good shit
This is honestly straight up life advice. I cant tell you how awful it feels to lose something you are passionate about because you took it way to seriously and way too far. Remember having fun with it
Jesus Christ man I literally lost my last job because of that recently. Beating myself up over every little mistake that I eventually broke down straight up and was told not to come back because of the severity of the mental breakdown it was BAD and in that state to begin with I fully agree with their decision as much as it broke me to have to leave that job. Now I'm just back to a standard simple 9-5 that I have no passion for and I'm just less happy than I was to begin with anymore. I took my break being unemployed, but bills don't pay themselves so life goes on 😒
That said, I like laughing at myself how angry I used to get losing in Tekken when I was a kid. These days losing in Tekken is the least of my worries LOL
i started telling myself “if i lose my rank i can get it back and go further” and it helps
same it's a real lifechanger. I remember Arsenalty also said the same thing
Lot of this advice is not just tekken its for all fighting games
Lot of this advice is not just for fighting games it's for all life
Wan, Tuu, Tsrii, Four…
Wan, Tuu, Tsrii, Four, Five, Six, YEAH!!
I think your advice is really good because I was stuck at Byakko for like a month, However after a break I was able to get to Eternal Ruler which is where I’m currently at. Your advice is so helpful whenever I play Tekken 7.
Where u at now cuz I'm stuck at eternal ruler?
also I feel a great tip that has helped me improve over time is to have a main that you genuinely enjoy, it makes you labbing your character (finding out setups, movelist familiarity, etc.) much more fun rather than sticking with top tiers and not enjoying the process
I don't understand why someone would get a fighting game, only to look up a tier list and choose the best character, that's just weird imo.
If they're trying to play competitively or playing Marvel, you kinda have to (half joking with Marvel but with how broken that game is....👀)
I've been having a bunch of fun going back to T5DR for the past few months. It's unfortunate that I don't have people to play with but the limited move lists helps me with frame data and optimal punishes, the better movement has been helping me train my defenses. I've been playing since t3 as a king main but going back to 5 and only using Mishimas has been really helping my gameplay overall. (Trying to play king in 5dr after getting used to him in 7 is like an entirely different character. Even I don't like how strong he is in season 4 lol)
this was probably some of the best advice i’d ever gotten, first time ive seen immediate improvement.
i slowed it down and went into quick matches and now i not only feel better but also playing better too, thank you!
I made it to Fujin for the first time last week. Never thought I get this far with Josie as i always get opponent that dont press buttons during switch stance or just fuzzy guard.
My first main in T7 was Josie. Just hit fuijin with Kuni 2 weeks ago. Can’t imagine playing Josie in these ranks, counter hit baiting is difficult, although not impossible because there’s still a ton of trash players in these ranks.
You should switch characters, I bet you’ll shoot straight to emperor with the fundamentals you’ve learned from Josie.
So that's what my opponents are doing when they are declining matches again and again
The point that you made in the beginning really resonates with me and my Disc Golf game. A lot of shots that used to stress me out seem trivial after a break.
2:20 "lows are not that scary"
Me eating hellsweeps: 💀
Having people to just spar with is super important, especially opponents that can critique you. Instead of queuing for ranked and doing one-and-dones constantly, you gotta find someone who can play entire sets at a time with you, just back to back to back.
If you're gonna lab, in the wise words of Sajam, you lab to solve problems.
I totally agree, not caring about your rank is the key. I had a big issue in Tekken with getting too attached to the outcome of the match. S to not care as much If I win or lose I would say to myself before the match starts, I hope my opponent does well. The opposite of what I used to think lol. When I do this I feel like I actually play to my full potential.
This is a great video. I literally just played Sperogin, and pretty much he echoed the same thing mainmanswe just said. Don't be so eager to attack and let the opponent expose themselves 1st sometimes.
Big thing: You need to understand that you do NOT play ranked to get better at the game. Also understand that no one cares about your rank. A shit ton of bad players have a high rank and there’s even bad players that have Tekken god Prime. Learn how to win without using your gimmicks and getting carried. Can you win then? Can you win based off tekken fundamentals? Or do you need your characters op moves? That’s when you know if you are even kind of good. Just came here to say this and hopefully some newbie players or players hoping to get better will see. You will get better 1000% faster in practice mode than you will playing online. You’d just have to know what to practice and not say “ok I just did like 25 combos in a row it’s time for some ranked”. Easiest mistake.
That part about learning how to win without gimmicks is so true. When first starting out, I could tell that I would have a much easier time getting wins by spamming Snake Edges and 1+2 Grabs as Dragunov, because I noticed that many players at that low of rank couldn’t deal with it.
So I deliberately kept the usage of those to a bare minimum, if at all, in order to improve my fundamentals and I feel that did a lot to help in my learning process.
I played against an Anna (as Kazuya) today about 6 games and our score went like 4-2 (I lost) because she was spamming some low strings that knock down and mixed up one mid that hits lying down opponents and a parry (I think it was a parry, not exactly that familiar with all character moves yet) but even though I lost on score, I managed to predict a lot of her attacks and sidestep punish or even double low parry her once while she kept doing the same 3 moves. I don't care I lost, because I actually practiced my reflexes while this kid will stay at the same level for eternity.
@@MaskyFalle I play Kazuya and the only way for me to spam hellsweeps is if I see an opponent just block and punish the whole game, I mean yeah he has the "don't be agressive" mindset but fighting games are more than holding back and using jab
Not gonna lie I do that everytime I play ranked, boot up t7, jump into practice mode, spam my best tool/ what I find to be the hardest combo I can do, and as soon as I can do it consistently, I jump into ranked lmao, thanks for calling my bs.
Preaaaaach. I don’t give a flying fuck about my rank. I was a 2nd Dan for years but I could challenge people because I literally stayed in the lab. Labbing for defensive strategies is my gameplan and punishment .Everything else is just for show.
I just watched, and watched, and watched. And boi i got to divine ruler fast, AND now im away from ranked. God bless regular matches, going against tgps to learn, and somehow win. Getting guud.
Same. I put ranked down once I hit rulers and started learning other characters, labbing and doing player match against much better players. Now I'm way stronger with my main.
At 12:03 the music stops you can only hear Lucky Chloe and then the quick punches by Geese while TMM looks into the camera. Something about the moments is so comedic to me.
I got Eternal Ruler in 7 months of playing. I sat in practice and labed characters I struggled fighting the most and just went into ranked with a mindset of wanting to learn and not caring about my rank. I'm now Genbu with Negan and my Katarina is Eternal Ruler.
I'm close to 300 hours in this game, and I STILL can't ever decide who to play or practice. Too many badass characters.
I'm writing this in hopes of helping someone who reads this:
SO, as TMM mentioned, I periodically suffer from playing on auto pilot..
And the entire timeline of that period goes something amongst the lines of:
recognizing my own mistakes and shortcomings
improving on some of the things i recognized
seeing a positive impact on my gameplay and matches (wins)
putting some thought into how will i deal with people who can see this way of playing as pattern, to set up a potential mix up/changing my own rhythm/pace.
testing it out.
my brain sets it up as template that it's gonna pull out when things don't go my way.
my brain automatically goes for things i improved on and uses templates i've thought of about a variety of situations
i get frustrated because people download me.
I take a break from the game so my brain resets and then i actually get my brain back and it's involved throughout the fights
- recognize my own mistakes and shortcomings - rinse and repeat.
take a break every now and then.. 2-3 days, it'll do you some good, i swear
So I tried this philosophy out recently. Not playing for rank. Really paying attention to what my opponent is doing, and what I'm doing. Playing for fun. It feels quite different, but was rather enjoyable.
I JUST was searching for a tekken guide of some sorts and here you are uploading this.Thanks :P
"Ego is the antithesis of all growth."
Whether its a good player or bad player always be willing to lose and even more willing to learn. Everyone can teach you something new. Swe is right you gotta be humble.
Dude, +1000 style points for having an Unreal Tournament song in the background.
Thas absolutely right, every time i take a break i come back more strong. Excellent advice!
Constantly rematching is unbelievably helpful, especially against someone you have no chance against. I didn't know how to beat Law and Noctis for the longest so whenever I matched with one, I'd rematch and die over and over analyzing every move. And I'd get closer to the win every single time until I had mapped every move and how to counter it.
Don't play Tekken with the sole intent to win AT ALL. Play everything as if it's a training match, but give it your all. Expect to lose and evolve. Tekken is more of an intellectual game than a fighting game, in my opinion. You have to constantly be thinking.
You’re legendary SWE ! Late to the show but I have become a fan of your Tekken content 🙌🏽
TMM giving you a really serius chants to improve in tekken
The guy triying to challenge him: FUCKING ACCEPT DAMN IT!
Yo wtf I thought I was the only one improved after taking a break for 3 weeks
Loving the Unreal Tournament 1 1999 soundtrack in the background.
I flew through most ranks to Seiryu just by being patient and whiff punishing my overly aggressive opponents. I can't tell you how many times I have been insulted and called boring for winning in this way. I'm only Mighty Ruler and finding it challenging now but the journey to it wasn't all that difficult.
Thank you Mainman for the advice. I’ll apply them to my play style and hope that that I’ll get better at the game.
the guy who ruined Jin right leg.
never forgive you
Good shit Mainman we could all take this very same approach to improve just like you did. You're getting better and better at teaching, too
What's the music track at 10:00
I know it from somewhere...
Just what I needed more of to hear. I never care about rank but I don't know the right questions to ask myself to improve, how to analyze an opponent, how to go about studying a match up.
That Unreal tournament music makes the lecture all the more better...
Lucky likes U.T. music
Not caring about rank is important, but only because Tekken rank is broken. Don't take it as blanket advice for other games as well, since most games' ranked systems represent players' ranks pretty accurately. Dota 2 MMR I find to be extremely precise, at least for core roles, as a skill indicator.
Here's why Tekken ranks don't mean shit:
- No incentive to keep rematching, aside from competitive integrity or lack of players. A lot of times the same shit will happen - opponent plays some unfamiliar character, kills you horribly, then you figure out the character and start beating them. And just before/after you're able to beat them - they leave and take the points away.
- Points gained/lost change as you rank up and down. If you play someone, lose couple times, they rank up, you demote. Suddenly, you're playing for 1/5 of the points per match, and have basically no way of getting the points back.
- People savescum and reset ranks so often that your opponents rank actually doesn't represent how well they're going to play at all. You can farm several ranks from a bad savescummer, or get absolutely killed by someone who's obviously 5 colors above you.
If you want easy high rank - pick the scummiest cheese character, blow people up with strings and cheese, never rematch if you're not 100% sure you'll win, plug people who you know can beat you during the load screen, savescum all the time, annoy people with taunts and ki charges.
If you want to improve at Tekken - forget rank, it's as shitty and ass-backwards of a system as everything in Tekken. Just play.
i never cared about my rank, i know what i can do and i am confident that i am a good player
But what rank are you
@@VbrSoro same energy as "Can he beat Goku tho"
When I play tekken, my heart starts to rush and I really think that tekken is damaging my health.
I think you are just really exited and having fun, cause i feel the same when its a good fight
I mostly play shooting games, and even I acknowledge that fighting games are the hardest games in the world to be the best at.
stopped tekken after 24 hours as an avid fps player
it takes a lot of knowledge, execution and discipline which is the hardest to acquire
@@carloshernandez3177 that and muscle memory. Although most if not all fps games require you to remember the maps, popular strategies, and what weapons and setup are best on different maps, it’s definitely a change when you have to remember 50+ combos, kill confirms, frame rates, what maps benefit your character or others, as well as character matchups. Shits like studying for the finals
@@saint.clair3308 and complicated mechanics too. Like some moves are -15 on block but have ridiculous push so it doesn't correlate to a standard 15f punish
That's partly because you've been playing shooting games all your life though, so you've already developed those skills. Fighting games seem harder as you have less experience with them.
I'm the opposite actually. I play fighting games but rarely touch shooters, and shooting games feel difficult as hell to me. I tried Valorant for a few games and got ran over by random beginners... not to mention my team raging at me for having no clue what's going on. I can't imagine how good the actual pros must be.
Truthfully, every competitive genre is super difficult if you're trying to be the best.
I started playing T7 about 3 months ago and some things I've learned.
1. Understand that this game is not beginner friendly and you will get frustrated beyond belief.
2. You need to put the work in. Study frames, strings, etc for ALL characters.
3. Work on movement(kbd) before practicing combos. It's tedious and not fun but worth it at higher levels.
4. Online is trash. Everyone presses buttons nonstop and 99% will leave after 1 win. No one wants to improve and play sets. You will lose to the dumbest, most gimmicky shit ever because you have no mu knowledge and have no clue what they're doing. You'll want to quit out of frustration over and over again.
5. If you have an offline scene go play offline!!!
online has lag and some wins come from you not getting a read on the next attack. Need practice for sure on low parry and not getting caught in juggle combos many seem to love trying to do.
I definitely work towards staying emotionally mature regarding this game. I think Tekken ranked is one of the most toxic cesspools of negativity that I have seen in a long, long time and people constantly throw out disrespectful, immature remarks and it is best to ignore them. I am certainly not great at this game and I do strive to become higher ranked in the game, and it is so awesome to just leave a "GG bro you are awesome" message to others even if I lose. Just because I am acknowledge the fact that I had an opportunity to learn something new, even if that thing was "I do not want to do that again."
Literally just came back to Tekken after 3 months and decided to pick up Kazumi. Been playing a lot of other fighters that requires a lot of patience and returning I'm realizing how impatient a lot of the players are in the game. Been kinda steamrolling a lot of ppl
I have health issues and probably shouldn't play Tekken but I can't stop. Almost had a heart attack playing against Paul in ranked. True stuff.
The stress is real
I laughed so much for this comment meme bump haha, are u still playing tekken and have your health issues already gone
Im new player on tekken and i know that feeling when u are against paul on ranked promotion match and he start to spamming those heavy attacks, my last two promotion match i have played against paul XD
@@jazu85 I'm still playing. My health issues are hard to elaborate about because I still don't know exactly what's wrong. I have Postrual orthstatic tachycardia syndrome so I constantly feel like I'm having a panic attack and I have a lot of weird symptoms that still havn't been explained to me. I probably should play more chill games but ever since I was small and I discovered Tekken 3 I have always loved playing Tekken. Except when I suck. Lol.
@@memebump7612 yeah i feel u, sometimes it feel like i have same kind of thing while playing tekken online, others games what i have played i dont have that kind of adrenaline feeling what in tekken when playing against others. XD
defensive, side stepping , throw counter and punishment stats are more important than tenacity , agility, rage usage, and agreesiveness stats.
imo
defense> punishment> throw counter> sidestep > rage usage> agility > aggressiveness > tenacity
I've been very passionate about Tekken 7 for 2 years but now... Things really changed.
I couldn't care less about the game, the only way I would get hyped or interested is if they announce Tekken 8.
Bruhhh is that Unreal Tournaments music in the back? Track ID please I know I've heard it somewhere before but I can't find ittttt!
"The Course" I think, your comment helped me find it lol
Very insightful video. The advice about not caring about rank is the most important. For example, I used to never rematch certain characters, because I hate playing vs them and don't wanna tank my rank. In fact, I would stress whenever I got matched vs them. But at some point I realised, I should stop being a little bish and play as much as I can vs them, cause that's the only way to learn how to beat them.
Fujin here, 16 years of tekken play. Lei is my main since tekken5DR.
Best advice to bethe best that you can in tekken.
First! Begin asking yourself this question. "Why am I playing tekken?"
Maybe you want to have fun, perhaps you were inspired mainman.
Figure out your why. Because your why will be the path that will lead you to your goals.
Second learn your character weaknesses, and you as a player.
Discover your bad habits.
For example main man said stop pressing buttons and learn to be defensive. I fix that problem because of my ADHD. I had to learn to slow myself down and breath.
Then learn the opponents character weaknesses and the moves you can counter or punish and whiff punish.
The most important thing to learn fast. ITS OK TO LOSE AND GET SALTY BUT ITS NOT OK TO BLAME YOUR LOSSES ON SOMEONE ELSE.
HAVE FUN.
Also I forgot to add this...Find your favorite all time tekken player. Study and analyze their matches.
Example: My goal in tekken is to be know as the best Kazuya on the East coast and learn how to punish tricky characters.
Step! Search for players who are in their top of the game with Kaz. That would be Mainman, Knee, Shrimboo from Pakistan.
Step 2. Analyze the move the Kaz used while asking "How come Mainman chose that move in that situations?"
Step 3. PRACTICE MODE!
Record is your best friend! Copy the situation. And ask can I sidestep it, do I have enough frames to counter it? Or after blocking the most what would be the next move my opponent is like to do?
Step 4 put your hard efforts to the test by doing a normal quick match. Test the strat om different characters and record the opponents reaction.
Does he tend to back away? Does he like sidestepping? Can I use the move to bait a whiff?
Does he know the move I used and if so how can I mix it up?
Final step! YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE LIKE IT OR NOT, BUT YOU LOSING MADE YOU THAT MUCH CLOSER TO YOUR CHARACTER AND LEARNED WHEN TO USE THE MOVE NEXT TIME.
Sorry for long comment. Super passionate about tekken that my nephews and nieces will play after school and never let them do drugs...only tekken.
Super guilty of still pressing too many buttons. Sometimes it’s better to just forward dash into holding back vs rushing in and getting blown up.
he is right, i almost immediately went from green rank to orange rank after a two week break; i started to unconsciously low parry characters i've never even labbed before. It was weird
Yeah the mindset I'd say helps me is to always be learning. Always play differently every single match. If you're getting boddied, try new things every time. Figure out how your opponent is playing and see what they do well and what their weaknesses are and try new strategies.
There's also a mentality, instead of poking, you always use launcher moves, they usually are high/- on block, so use pokes instead of launchers everytime.
Chloe on the background is a training to not get emotional about her
TMM: being wholesome
Chloe: Imma wreck this guy's whole career
More like: "I'm gonna swing my legs and counting to make him annoyed"
Was losing to a Paul 7 games in a row. While listening to this video I changed my whole mindset and beat him 4 in a row.
I stucked at raijin level, thanks for this video ♥️
Unsurprisingly, this can be said for any fighting game, 2d, 3d; heck, even for Smash. Learn the fundamentals, and make your movement almost natural because people love to just press buttons. Don't mind rank, just play with heart.
I keep wondering why 5 bar people decline for no reason and then i see this video and think, yeah it's all just a bunch of youtubers doing tutorials lol
Ngl I usually take like 2 week breaks until I do it again and I literally won 5 matches in a row for me to go to overlord and today I am almost going back to destroyer which absolutely kills me I was like “nope I don’t want to do it now” and I’m getter better and blocked bottom moves which I am proud of myself and punish I do notice that if I keeping doing rank everyday I’ll be going back to the previous rank whereas when I took a break I can easily win. Thanks for the advice
I'll be honest playing Tekken when I was high after smoking a blunt gave me the most focused games I ever had, I absorbed more afterward.
Just got wrecked by a blue rank Law last night and this vid pop up this morning. This would def helpful.
What help me was never expecting to win and instead, going for simple "achievements" example with a match with Drag, his D2, if I can low parry that once I'm good and that's a win for me
I get really emotional lol so thank u for the tip it really helped !!
I was expecting some technical shit but this dude just made me feel better
nvr knew how much I needed to watch this..
i've recently gotten to the yellows with steve. I've not wanted to lose my rank but I also understand that in most cases I can win if I'm careful with my gameplay, barring certain match ups that are harder. But you gotta kinda love the grind and take it on the chin.
I don't know if anyone else plays Tekken like this, but I was never invested in Online Rank. My motivation was always to be the best among my peers IRL. A win over someone I can actually see and hear matters more to me than some rando online. Then again, I'm an oldhead whose first real XP was with Tekken 2, so the mindset could be called dated/casual and I don't plan on winning international tourneys. I have lots of fun though! 200% emotion every fight lol I like my sweets with a little salt.
TMMS is literally the otzdarva of tekken, change my mind
I remember a fellow redditor once said Tekken is a game where you learn so movesets of a character to counter their gimmicks, but once you are in the high levels, no one would use those movesets. They become a cluster of unviable movesets. So developers just removing some of those movesets would be a good balance for new players to learn less in order to finally get a grasp. This learning of bloated movesets only to not use them in the end just creates artificial learning and sunk cost fallacy.
In other games you just learn fundamentals and get straight into mind games. Like Rocket League
Something I do is have a goofy ass, gimmicky side character that I'll play when I'm tired of being a sweaty Mishima player. Mine is Kuma, I love him as a character and it's fun to beat people in the goofiest way possible. It's fun, and a good way to relieve some online stress.
I'm at Mighty Ruler. I don't have the motivation to rank up anymore but what I'm doing to get better and increase my knowledge is playing different characters. I have over a dozen characters at Mighty Ruler now. Got there pretty quickly with them with fundamentals, I don't get salty anymore, i don't get too sweaty and I have time to play other fighting games(where I play many characters per game too) and genres.
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@@collinsosadebay6486 hat?
@@mikeg4490 Cap
@@emeraldnipp I don't follow?
No no id t bag u mid game
Very good video Tmm, i feel like i go through the same feelings
well depends , i get a lot angry when i hit many bad timings or when the enemies have huge openings and still manage to block jabs which are the fastest attacks , but sometimes that madness makes go all out and strike perfects with ease , like i was losing 0-2 against a king , got mad and hit 2 perfects in a row , it felt easier than hitting the dummy on practice mode lol
Honestly my mom drilled in hard that im not special she never really told me l was good at much of anything and any accomplishments l made were trivial, so while l want desperately to improve at something l just cant overcome years of mental conditioning, like genuinely l just don't feel like im very good at anything and whatever l try in all im ever going to achieve is mediocrity ive never had someone to push me to go further and l continue to not have that so l just feel like nothing is worth learning anymore because ill never be good at it :/
This is true. I have an extream learning curve after not playing for 2 years and especially having the balls to main jin for a while. 120 wins with him so far still 1st dan.
Bruh, you should play practice mode and learn some combos if you are stuck in 1 dan with 120 wins...I reach 18 dan(destroyer) in 200 wins
This video needs editing with only infinite azure background music behind WiseManSWE's angel voice
whats the song in the background
the first song
Only commenting because I want to know the answer to 😭😭
Need this too
Unreal tournament 99 the course
@@lucasmarques9131 You dropped this 👑
@@lucasmarques9131 thank you alot you are a hero
That’s some blackjack card counting mentality
I get the rank part, what I'm having problems with is turtles. People that don't attack ever, or people that are only backdashing and not attacking ever, I don't have fun in Tekken against people that play like that
So true ✌️ my saying is the only way you'll learn is by losing alot. The more you get hit by a certain move, the more you'll react to punish more. How, why an when is my go to things, where can I improve an what am I doing wrong. Who should I use as a counter better then other characters 💪 gotta lose alot to win alot
Song name plz?
I recently got back into tekken 7. I dont even care about my rank. If I am in the rank Im in, its because i deserve to be there. I am just trying to learn the game and im not as angry anymore after taking a LONG break.
The first 2 mins hits the hart
When’s the unreal tournament stream?
What's the music at the beginning?
Unreal tournament: the course
@@O.Ez8 i love you
ok so what if there is a bryan main taunt dashing into you...just hold back?...and just when you decide to press he cancels taunt into forward 3
Learn to punish, wait for you turn through frame data, learn to side walk. Be unpredictable.
A couple months ago i was stuck on the first green rank every time i went up a rank i got demoted instantly and was getting angry. I took a 2 month break came back and went to practice figured out some frames and labbed some gimmicks from other characters and ended up breezing through green ranks. I even took 4 games in a row vs this kaz who would always murder me.
@TheMainSwe. Nice advice! Good too know that i am using some of your advice. 1. What is my opponent doing. Are there moves hé does a lot. How can i punish it. I like too analyse my opponent.
tekken should pay you for these explanations mainman, you are the father of this game for too many people!
I am tekken god prime with kazuya but I did it in treasure battle will that rank go straight to online if I start playing online
It won't
Obviously not.
@@TBSEminem so if I go online my rank will not be tekken god prime
@@obamapyramid5871 it would have been pretty damn stupid. Fighting people isnt the same as fighting some lame ass ai. You would be destroyed.