Here Is Everything You Want To Know About The Nikola Hydrogen Semi Truck From The Chief Engineer!
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As a class c holder/driver this is really neat and interesting, thanks for taking us along Andrew I am hopeful for😊 the future
Full credit to the Nikola rep for openly acknowledging that the truck is an IVECO S-Way, rather than claiming that they designed or built it. To be clear, "platform" means everything except the fuel cell system and battery.
It also makes sense that the fuel cell stack under the cab is much more acceptable to drivers than a diesel engine under the cab.
Thank you very much for making these videos. I really enjoy them. I have been a fan of hydrogen for most of my life. I have a solar powered electrolyzer that makes hydrogen on demand if I need any. I also have an off grid, solar powered house and the electric car and I realize that this technology is advancing and thank you for bringing it to TH-cam to share with everyone.
I own NKLA stock...We investors get mocked all of the time. Thank you for the great and fair video. I appreciate it so much!!!
Trevor Milton's hydrogen scam compagny bankrupt january 2024
sorry but the mocking is well deserved, now at 70 cents per share btw. It's been so obvious for years Nikola is a horrible investment.
@@ChiSpire i bought at 60 cents lol
@@ChiSpire The older I get...the more I realize that mocking is one of the worst things a human being can do to another human being...But if you feel people deserve it...have at it I guess. Do you...
@@janineshearer4236 I get where you’re coming from, there is something to be said of people being nice and treating others well. I genuinely try and be a nice person with all of my interactions. However I can only get so upset when for example flat earthers are mocked. Something so ridiculous in my opinion it almost deserves to be mocked. From one person to another, I am truly sorry if you have lost any money on Nikola stock and I wish you the best of luck 😊
Look that awesome truck, HYLA stuff and their facility including technology. Can't believe their stock is below $2, I guess time is all they need, similar to what happened to Tesla a few years ago.
Wake me up if Nikola have more than 1 $ left in the Bank, january 2024...
@mikafiltenborg7572 You been saying that for 3years now you troll, they will Dominate you hater.
It's definitely worth the risk now, because if they hit big, that's gonna be really big....
55kw for 1 kg green H2? 9kg for 60miles/100km without losses
Tesla Semi: 125kw for 60miles/100km
This is the only answer you have to know.
@@mikafiltenborg7572Ring ring Ring
Very Impressive . Go Nikola !!
Great video.
Very interesting enjoyed the style of the truck. My first truck was a 1982 freightliner cabover. This truck looks and sounds like something from a Syfy show. Love it.
Great job Christian answer all the the touch questions Andre throw at you. I recall it cost NkLA $3 a kg to produce hydrogen and the federal incentive kick back of $3 kg for first 5 years . NkLA will sell hydrogen comparable to diesel price . As more and more hydrogen comes on line it get cheaper and cheaper to produce like gasoline ⛽️. Great video Andre! 👍
This whole operation of climate change is orchestrated for control. The deep state is invested in electric/ battery only. Several states have taken steps to outlaw internal combustion engines of which hydrogen engines are. So you see it's not about clean or the environment it's about control. Cummins and Toyota both have hydrogen engines in operation.
Absolutely fantastic interview, Andre! I have been following Nikola since they unveiled in Salt lake city years ago. Unfortunately, I got caught up in the Trevor Milton scandal and lost alot of money, but I have very high hopes for Nikola. I'm also a Truck Driver and am super interested in seeing what these new trucks will bring. I currently haul double tankers maxed out at 105,500.
Amazing Tech . Congrats Nikola Team ..
Why congratulate them for the technology? They didn't create any of it. They buy everything, from the base truck to the battery system to the fuel cell system... and all of those are well-established technology.
The best part about this interview is both representatives of the company answered every question Andre asked, unlike Jay's interview of Tesla. It's not trying to revolutionize an industry that doesn't need it. It is just a truck doing truck things with a better cab layout and style than Tesla.
Also the oil industry isn't going anywhere, all that plastic in all of these vehicles no matter what powers them comes from petroleum. Over 6,000 different products are made from petroleum like: artificial turf, Antiseptics, Vitamin Capsules, Antihistamines, Synthetic Rubber, Guitar Strings, Upholstery...
As an engineer, it's hard not to be seduced by this thing. I remember reading about Bob Lazar's hydrogen cars when I was a kid. I believe I wrote a paper about it at school. This is obviously an entirely different architecture vs converting a gasoline engine. As to the actual viability of this vehicle, or the company producing it, I have no clue.
As a mechanic I see alot of future issues 😂 for myself
One of the biggest issues is the costs and maintenance. Hydrogen is very expensive when compared to diesel and many times more expensive when compared to Electric. For Green Hydrogen, it is even more expensive. That isn't even taking additional maintenance costs into consideration.
The vehicle is viable if the fuel is available and economically sensible.
They are already producing it and delivering it to its customers the future is here!
I think Bob Lazar got the Hydrogen technology from one of the alien greys that was in captivity at area 51.
The fuel cell module appears to be about the same size in all dimensions (length, width, height) as the diesel engine for the same truck. It's not surprising that fuel cell trucks with conventional cabs also place the fuel cell stack in the normal engine location, even though (due to the lack of shaft connection) it could also go in other locations (such as further back or even on the outside of the frame rails where fuel tanks are normally found).
Saw you there, cool to see them towing around concrete blocks
So how do you deliver the mobile dispensing trucks to a site? And FROM where? 1000 kg tanks / 70 kg fill ups = 14 truck fill ups??? Then you send another tanker truck? If you have 7 trucks, that's replenishment every 2 days, at maximum delivery distance of 250 miles + 250 return? Same scenario for the supply trucks. What are the plans for on-site H PRODUCTION, and at both carrier H and destination? Seems like initial market is only private repetitive route cutomers.
We make mobile hydrogen generation stations turning biomass into hydrogen and we fill their trucks with this fuel
Better than expected!
GMs best investment 🤣
Great Video! Keep them coming!
H70 hydrogen is USD36 per kg now in California....it takes USD 2520 to fill up the 70kg tank, and it goes 500 miles, this is $5 per mile. Meanwhile, EV semi can go down to 1.7 kWh per mile, which is $0.51 per mile @ 30 cents per kWh of electricity cost in California....the difference is almost 10X.
DDriving distance per Cost can be more understandable.
That is what I worry also. but the hydrogen production cost including stack will be down.
analyst said before Holiday or thanksgiving it will go around $46-50/kg.
@@cristybrianwilliams In comparison to Electric it isn't possible, to make Green Hydrogen, requires Electricity. Let's not forget the cost of distribution, which is a very limiting factor.
=(scam compagny) Nikola Motor are DOOMED and will go bankrupt, january 2024.. 😊
Buy the stock and get in early.
NKLA to 0 $, january 2024, when Nikola run out of investor money and can't afford to buy more IVECO parts from Europe.
@michaeljvera Buying the stock is a huge risk..... Don't be fooled Nikola and Hydrogen Trucking is going to be tricky at best.
now at 70 cents
@@ChiSpire now at $1.04 =)
Awesome 👏
In the future mechanics are going to hate these
in the future mechanics will be payed more than doctors and lawyers, I don't think they'll mind.
Nikola Motor & Nikola Energy Hyla a Trilion Dollar Corporation with best BEVs & FCEVs and Worlds Largest Hydrogen Infrastructure Network
Wake me up if Nikola have more than 1 $ left in the Bank, january 2024.... 😊
Mika, cool down and do some basic research. Nikola is doing this together with Bosch, or you missed that part?
@@stennordenmalm9900 He is just another Tesla lowlife junkie society 🗑 trolls.....
@@stennordenmalm9900 Have you heard about the man in California whose hydrogen car needed a new fuel cell at 60,000 miles? It reportedly cost more than a new car. Then there is hydrogen leaks. Mike is about right.
Despite Andre's comments starting at 6:04, there's no more redundancy in a heavy truck than there is a passenger car.
Obviously without an engine electric power must be used to run the steering assist and the air pump (for brakes and suspension), but otherwise it can use common heavy truck systems... which do not have any more redundancy than light vehicle systems.
It may not have been very clear in the audio at 16:26 (and it's wrong in the transcript), but the brake system supplier is WABCO. WABCO started as the Westinghouse Air Brake Company, has had a few changes of ownership and location, and is now a part of ZF. He describes it as European, and is currently based there, but started in the USA.
When you consider that there is both engine braking and service brakes, yes there is some redundancy. Also truck air brakes are failsafe. If you lose air the brakes apply themselves..
@1guyin10 passenger cars have dual-circuit braking systems, plus parking brakes that also work (poorly) as emergency brakes, and medium-duty trucks with hydraulic brakes are just like cars. Anything with an engine has engine braking. Air brakes exist for practical reasons, not for redundancy.
Liquefaction does not involve "a whole bunch of compression" - the pressure of liquid hydrogen is low, and the process is chilling.
Granted you fueling faster with hydrogen, but still need to transport the hydrogen in a tanker to the facility, very costly
Same as at Gasoline stations or ?
Not the same as gas. You have to keep hydrogen cool. It would be more similar to transporting nitrogen. Which is not a huge issue.
@@watkikel It is a very huge issue because hydrogen is prone to leaking and requires extensive cooling, this is difficult to store and transport.
When talking about weight we don't think in terms of total gross weight. It's axle weight that is the limiting factor. In Canada we can be fine on a tandem drive but cross the border into the USA and we need to put down a tag axle to share some weight. I'm told that this is because of the structural load limits of the concrete highways on American Interstates. Your maximum weight allowance though is generally a factor of how many axles you have to distribute that weight. Most tractors have the ability to slide their fifth wheel forward to put a little more weight onto the steering axle and thus a little less on the drives if it's necessary if it's a little heavy in the (trailer) nose.
US and Canadian rules are similar: axle loads are normally the restriction in either case, and maximum gross weight is just the total of all of the axle maximums.
Can it drive downhill in a desert?
Yes, if you give it a PUSH😂
Yes 👌 I would like 👍 to have one how 🤔 are the Truck 🚚
I'm all for bringing modern day cab overs to the US.
Hello volvo are you listening? We want you the fh 16 turbo compound
That's a great point!
That first dude I think was in a hurry to get the interview over with. And he seemed to assume that Andre didn't know much about getting in and out of the try.
Currently Nikola has 347 trucks parked outside their Az factory. WHY?
!
What is the price per kilogram and filling this truck vs a diesel??
2X...
@@mikafiltenborg7572 no - same
How much does it cost to make, transport, charge and store hydrogen? It makes no sense in a large scale. BEV is the way to go.
Battery trucks only will not replace what we have.
What would an equivalent capacity of diesel be to do what the Fcev trucks can
The full 70 kg load of hydrogen can drive the truck, with a full trailer load for a combination weight of 82,000 pounds, up to 500 miles. And average highway heavy truck in the USA gets 6.5 miles per US gallon with a loaded trailer for up to 80,000 pounds combination weight, so it would need 77 US gallons of diesel for the same 500 miles.
Drive a pizza plate?
As long they didn't have a conventional, a lot of drivers will not drive this truck.
I don't understand, why nikola dont put on satteltanks right and left on a conventional. No exhaust system give you the chassis length required. Cng truck use already sattel tank's.
My opinion, truck need a camera system instet mirrors.
Where's the fuel stop system.
I have driven a 6x2 scania, but prefer the ami 6x4.
Anyway 6x2 is illegal in canada.
Would someone show me Nikola's road to profitability? Do they have any customers. Hydrogen is currently produced from fossil fuels and is not green energy. Green energy moves energy to where needed. Hydrogen is dinosaur steam engine class technology where we burn something to produce heat energy. Nikola is located here in the Phoenix-Tucson metroplex. Sell, sell, sell.
Trevor Fraud Meltdown Milton's hydrogen-SCAM-compagy bankrupt soon. Nikola Motor have No costumers
500 miles if you bob tail... Realisticaly, 150 miles with a full payload
Nikola bankrupt Q1 2024
Anyone still cheering for nikola?? 😆
Only downside is hydrogen costs as much as printer ink….
It’s wayyyyyy too expensive to be worth it, especially with diesel at almost 3 dollars/gallon
Hydrogen would have to be nearly free to compete yet it’s at least 15x more expensive per energy volume
The will make up the difference on the carbon tax.. imo
@donplunkett1153 so you think a price premium on hydrogen is going to be made up where, exactly?
You can do 1000 miles loaded in a semi and get 6-7mpg. It will cost... let's say 600 bucks.
A hydrogen powered truck would cost 4000 dollars+ in fuel to make the same trip.
BOSCH POWERTRAIN EXPERTS
It’s not going to fly in the USA
Drivers are to spoiled by the comfort of conventional tractors. I started driving a cab over at 55
And I can tell you it’s a chore climbing in and out of that cab sever times a day.
You’ll be Surprised at how Many Young Truckers today That will want to drive a Cabover. These newer Models like the Freightliner Argosy doesn’t have the Old Dog Box in the Middle. But has a Flat Floor. I liked Driving Cabovers years ago due to the Tight Turns I could Make. Driving in Certain Cities like New York City and Chicago
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Buncha toys
Hydrogen transportation is the Steam locomotion of the 1900's, it won't survive except in museums.
It's a cabover so it won't sell nearly as well as a conventional. European market maybe.
Good bye Tesla
Hydrogen is a dead horse. Big corperations will control it. Anybody with enough money can charge from solar. Electric vehicles puts too much power into the hands of people. Monopolies can't jack up the price. There are many EVs made by companies other than Tesla..
According to Bard
Oil companies investing in hydrogen
ConocoPhillips
Marathon Petroleum
Valero Energy
Phillips 66
Suncor Energy
Cenovus Energy
Imperial Oil
Repsol
Eni
PT Pertamina
Woodside Petroleum
Santos
ok 🤣
Good bye scam compagny Nikola.
Bankrupt Q1 2024.... 😂
This was a scam.
You are a scam.
Not now
Scammer Trevor Milton (Nikola's founder) will go to PRISON before xmas 2023 😂
(don't drop the soap🧼 Trevor!)
@@hepasto Oil companies want it because they see it as a way to continue filling your tank. Maybe with dirty hydrogen.
This company is a fraud. TfL should know better.
Nikola bankrupt, january 2024.... 😊
Im the first one dude
nope the last dude anyone takes serious
@@billybobbob3003 First, last. "I am the Alpha and the Omega" do we need to kneel ?
@@danharold3087
Shut the front door.
Who the eff was that after the one minute mark?
Change the name of the TRUCK!
Take TREVOR name off and the the stock will go up. TRE= No.
I'll have to watch this later. The dude walking through the camera left me with a bad impression.
Andre is simply Amazing. Such a good journalist who does his research before interviewing others.. Always willing to take that extra mile to bring good substantive content on TH-cam.. keep up the great work Andre and your Team.
Great podcast, Andre! Really interesting look into hydrogen fuel cell vehicles.
Than you for watching and listening.
especially as it is a completely unbiased discussion / interview .. i really liked it ..
@@markplott4820 I don't think hydrogen was ever "alive". It makes very little sense once you realize the physics, extremely hard to store, low energy density, very complex to make usable. Engineering Explained has very good videos on this topic, the only thing keeping hydrogen from completely dying are the subsidies and environmental credits...
I started my trucking career in a 1986 international cabover and i missed driving a cabover.❤❤ ive been driving for 35yrs +. So i loose 7,000 lbs of payload. That means i still can haul 40,000 lbs . Cool
Andre asks about weight and the engineer readily gives the tractor weight as 26,200 pounds (and qualifies that value as "approximate"). Meanwhile, Tesla still won't provide any information about their Semi weight (which appears to be roughly the same as the weight of this fuel cell hybrid truck).
They definitely need to work on that. For comparison, a Mack Anthem sleeper cab is 17,760 lbs dry. Even with an allowance they will still be giving up a lot of freight capacity.
Good call on the portable hydrogen station model.
Do more of these on Nikola and Hydrogen stuff
Amaaaaaaaaaaazing soo excited💪
Wow, High Tech vehicle.
The explanation of the need for the large radiator is very good. Nikola Motor could regain some credibility with this sort of sound reasoning and open communication.
Yes, the founder maybe just wanted to make a quick buck and scam people, but a lot of the engineers who work at Nikola right now seem to have a quiet good understanding of what they are doing and maybe they can make Nikola a lasting company.
55kw for 1 kg green H2? 9kg for 60miles/100km without losses
Tesla Semi: 125kw for 60miles/100km
This is the only answer you have to know.
This is a really good video! Great interview! Thanks for making this video….very informative!
This truck is amazing! The real future is here clean air for all. It’s time these billion dollar company’s to change their fleets to Nikola! 😊
The "gaseous" supply trailer mentioned at 34:49 means that there is a hydrogen source available, but the pressure is too low so the system on this truck is needed to compress the hydrogen up to the much higher pressure used for storage on the truck. Yes, that takes a lot of electricity.
While I think hydrogen has a place, I'm always leery when a proponent of hydrogen doesn't address its dirty side. While it CAN be obtained using green power sources, as is done in this video, it is far, FAR cheaper to produce it via extraction from fossil fuel sources like natural gas or coal. In many cases the money behind the drive for a hydrogen economy comes from fossil fuel industry. I'd love to see a non-biased study comparing Gasoline/Diesel, EV, grey H, blue H, and green H, looking at their carbon footprints and costs. It's a complicated situation, and the fossil fuel industry is very motivated to keep those waters muddy.
The same applies to battery electric vehicles.
@@JohnDoe-vh4rt Hence the "EV" in the study I suggested.
i think the most important point is that you have to start at one point to reach the other .. as i don´t like the grey / blue hydrogen aswell i can understand that technology has to start and then develops .. and as you said .. the oil industry is very interested not to support these developments as much as they could moneywise .. in germany f. e. more than 55% of all electrical energy is produced with reneweable energies .. which is a good thing and will help produce green hydrogen in the future (using surplus production not needed by the grid) ..
@@JohnDoe-vh4rt Electric Vehicles can get their energy directly from Wind and Solar Sources, while making Green Hydrogen requires Electricity. Hydrogen is being driven by the Fossil Fuel Community, as a cost-effective alternative to diesel.
Early yet to judge. Right now it's dirty but it can be made clean with newly implemented technologies on the scale.... let alone it can be mined (white hydrogen) as well. mining alone can produce enough hydrogen for a millennia...
From the very beginning of Nicola trucks I was impressed from this Hydrogen fuel cell technology and the possible future this gives to the transport industry and the driver.. Driving a truck in EU is VERY intimidating job.. So the truck MUST comply with these rules ,so to speak, regarding the driving time and all the termins of the load.. As you declare, the refueling time for this truck (about 20 min) is VERY compatible as I see it from the driver's perspective.. THIS truck has all the future with it.. As I see it now ,the only problem regarding the flawless operation,is the density of the refueling stations.. Now THIS is a serious thema and the REAL, next milestone for this technology to win..I wish I was young now to drive it...
Go Nikola good job 👏
Great in depth video ❤👏🙌
Thank you for watching.
Will they know how to fix it ??
They need to get serious about a "solid" upper management (CEO) and quit playing around with NKLA stock holders money.
The point when the cab reaches the over-centre point @11:17 must be alarming with any of these tilt cabs. It's not a problem, but I would be tense every time.
The problem with Hydrogen is that it takes so much energy to separate it into a pure form. Hydrogen will be more expensive than the diesel equivalent.
Top truck. Been driving these lorry’s for years
Good luck find a hydrogen refill station outside California!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
They are working on that. It's probably worth noting that there also is not a network of gigawatt chargers that would be required for BEV semis. Either way the infrastructure has to be built.
He's a CDL holder.
Is your medical card current 🤔???
If not, you been down graded to class C
This interview makes me comfortable to short this scamming company:
1. They are in production area but no manufacturing machines, all assembled by hands.
2. The truck was designed and most of major units produced by Europeans.
3. No hydrogen infrastructure
4. No cost per mile said
5. 280 hp, my passenger car has more.
6. 500miles most likely lie seen the size of bottles. Hydrogen is low energy/density
7. Very complementary interview, and his is mostly what you can find on TH-cam. These TH-camrs completely corrupted.
8. This list can continue for another 100 points
yes it's so obvious (has been for years) still amazes me people are fooled.
Nikola bankrupt Q1 2024...
Good for Cali and NY city. Sucks in Central and Midwest trucking culture. And 8k heavier than my 18k diesel Volvo sleeper cab.
Sounds cool, should have asked the price per charge of hydrogen.
You don't need a fix fuel station. Put on 30 or 40 feed containers. Hydro do no present a danger for ground or water hydrogen is lighter as air. Keep it cheap and easy.
Gonna need a way to charge it. My rivian cant even charge qith a trailer on. I get 80 miles with 10k trailer. So every 80 miles u need to take trailer off to charge the truck. Its a joke
All you have to do is look at the refueling truck, to know that this is not the solution. It looks like going back in time not forward.
⚠️🚩Nikola have Less than 200 costumers pr year 😂
Trevor Milton to prison 😂
Pre planned interview?
👍👍👍👍
What kind of transmission do they use? How would that stand out compared to the domestic transmissions?
The diesel IVECO S-Way presumably uses a typical Euro truck transmission, but it's not used in the hydrogen fuel cell or battery-electric versions; they use an electric motor mounted on the drive axle, so the transmission is also in the axle. In this case, it's a fixed-ratio (single-speed) gearbox.
Bigger screen button
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Anything about water wadding capacity!!
Wading capacity? Meaning the depth of water it can drive through? Presumably more than you can safely drive any highway truck through. Electrical connections are all sealed, in any production EV.
BULLISH🐂
70 cents per share now, great call.
@@ChiSpire $1.04 now
And that's why the government is pushing for 90,000lbs so EV can still pull 45,000 lb load
Ev weight is over 7,000 lbs too heavy compared to a normal rig
Source ?
A problem with that is that there are boatloads of bridges out there that are rated at 40 tons of less.
I doubt anyone is pushing for a 10,000 pound weight exemption for EVs or any other alternative energy type. There is already a 2,000 pound US federal exemption, and similar rules at the US state and Canadian provincial level.
Isn't this the company that got busted for scamming investors and faking the product demo's? Didn't that land the guy in jail? Why would I ever take this company seriously? And TFL, why are you?
Yes. Except this time they actually have working demos.
We will have to wait and see if this actually succeds. I'm not a trucker so I don't care if this succeeds or not
Weren't they suspected of insurance fraud in relation to burning prototypes or something? Or was that another EV startup?
@@smithjones1906No they were neither accused of insurance fraud nor of making fraudent insurance claims.
@@Mr-pn2eh production version 3 years after their first presentation .. important fact imo .. musk needed much longer with his semi for example ..
@@smithjones1906 they had burning trucks .. but weren´t suspected for any fraud regarding this topic .. must have been another company ..
So after hearing that a Rivian had a minor dent in the back that could cost $41,000 to repair
Would you say the same thing would happen if a big EV rig got into a minor accident, it could cost over $100,000 for repairs.
By minor I mean like
Front bumper
Side hit
Jack Knife the rig in the parking lot
Hitting a deer
What would be the cost of body repair and would insurance cost more or just total out the rig
It's a Iveco cab.
Cost of body repairs has nothing to do with the energy source. This truck has the same frame and cab as the diesel version.