Australia needs to get ‘more people’ to serve in the Defence Force
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 พ.ค. 2024
- Shadow Defence Minister Andrew Hastie says there is “a lot to do” to improve the Australian Defence Force.
Mr Hastie told Sky News host Chris Kenny that Australia needs to get “more people” to serve.
“We’re about 5,000 under strength, and we’re not hitting our recruiting targets.”
I served 21 years in the ADF, and there is no way that I would let my son join due to all of the woke sexualisation priorities that the ADF has now. The ADF is a joke, and some of the disgraceful purchases they have made over the last 30 years has been comical.
My family’s out after 5 generations.
The current ADF is an insult to everyone who served. Whitlam has a lot to answer for. It was under him and the labor government at the time, who basically started destroying our military
I did 20 years in uniform 20 as a civi. Left because of the creeping Woke and visceral hatred of the defence organisation of male, uniformed members.
and the purchases like deisel subs that have a tanker shadow the SUB,,,,one missile END of story F/witts.
Having pride in your country is frowned upon so why should they fight for their country.
It’s worse than that. People who join the armed forces are not treated well by the community, and if they end up needing government support they won’t get it.
Preach my brother
Australian warships are sitting just off China's coast. Australian warplanes flying next to China's airspace. Is China doing that near Australia - NO. We are behaving like war pigs at the request of the worlds No 1 war pig - US.
Nothing to be proud of !!!!
If you don’t fight for your country you’re a traitor,be patriotic about your country.
How about the politicians kids ALL get sent to fight wars we didn't ask for.
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Not just their kids but the Politicians themselves. The current Western Elites have no skin/risk in the game, hence their desire for more Foreign Imperial Adventures and war profiteering. Following the catastrophic defeat at Cannae approximately 40% of the Roman Republican Senate was lying on the battlefield and missing at the next assembly in Rome.
The current Western Elites have no skin/risk in the game, hence their desire for more Foreign Imperial Adventures and war profiteering. Following the catastrophic defeat at Cannae approximately 40% of the Roman Senate was still lying on the battlefield and missing at the next assembly in Rome.
Well, if the very notion of Australia and Australian hadn't been denigrated to the point od disgust, and if men hadn't been fed an endless diatribe of 'Toxic Masculinity' there might not be such a problem, but I guess when you realise you need men to fight in wars then suddenly we are important again, eh?
Send the Politicians spoiled brats to fight their dirty war's.
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Australia sleep walking into war.
You know!
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people got short memories they took our guns away now they want us to train to use them
Young people wont fight for a country they cant afford a house in.. I'm not dying for boomers property tax breaks.
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Is it the boomers fault or the fault of Governments, we only ever had three baby boomers PM, Hawke, Keating and Howard probably the best three PMs that Australia has ever had. Did you grow up in Australia in the 60/70 the effects of WWII were still being felt due to the tax on goods to help pay for the war and no I am not a baby boomer.
@@boredatsea Howard was rubbish. Howard was as bad as this cuck cross dresser we got now.
@@boredatsea it cost less back then 16% on $250k for a house is fuck all compared to 10% on $5m
@@tysondaly9534 and who's buying their first house with a 5 mil price tag ?
Why would anyone sign up to defend a flag you are not allowed to wave?
National Service should be a pre-requisite for all politicians - expecially when there is a war ! Tim Fischer did his bit. He was wounded at FSB Coral, where my mate was killed in the same incident.
I ain’t dying for politicians
exactly
Ill give $1000 to anyone who fires the person that deletes our comments?
Jewgle coding.
The wizard behing the curtain
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Yea it's so fxckin annoying! Pointless sometimes even making comments because they just get deleted and fxck knows why most of the time because I'm not even fxcking swearing!!! I bet this will "mysteriously" disappear...
@@regregan6852 cut and past your coments sometimes it eventually gets through after a few attempts
Why not even the Australian government supports the Australian Army navy or airforce and what about the treatment of our soldiers after serving our country? They are forgotten or ignored!
Are they ready to acknowledge the overwhelming physical and psychological effects of war heaped on our servicemen.
Are they ready to actually help with the wounded and the shellshocked, ready to help the people who suffer war jitters and PTSD.
If not, then don't expect anyone to enlist anytime soon.
lets just follow the americans into endless wars
Make it more about defending the country and not hurting someones feelings and more will join and stay.
I think the fact we haven't defended our country, and fought Zionist wars for the last 30 years is the problem.
They're now recruiting from our very enemies,
What could possibly go wrong?
We've already been invaded by Asia India if you open your eyes.
Is Australia the first to lose their Nation without a fight?
I noticed that today when in Costco
Australia is no longer Australian
@@blackdog417 In Melbourne its spot the white ,
Most retail fast food stores are 90% Asian Indian.
thats the idea .send the young folk who cannot afford any property in Australia to protect
those that are fortunate enough to have property in Australia.
Very unique perspective, this comment weighs alot…
I have been thinking about joining and studying because of my living conditions, finances etc…
It seems its not the right time considering the circumstances the ADF is a poorly managed sector…
They are condemned as violent, hated by their communities and expected to accept the contempt with a smile on their face, told they aren't important (and in fact, dangerous) in the role of father and husband, burdened by the OBLIGATION to work 80 hours a week to pay way too much in tax so the government can subsidize the cost of living AND housing (many of them I'd imagine can't afford housing despite the fact that they work) for single mothers and their children or any other woman deemed in need of the support (without even so much of a single minute of an end to the constant contempt they get as a thank you)... dude, fucking hell, men and boys are being so completely abused in your country, made to be wage slaves to pay for their own obsolesce in relation to women and children; and also it may come to pass (and this really is icing on the "male privilege" cake) that they may have to go die in war for a country that first disposed of them emotionally, then financially, and then finally, mortally. How is no one fighting this insanity, it's seriously pissing me off watching all these fucking bureaucrats presume to talk down to and about THE VERY PEOPLE WHO PAY NEARLY ALL THE TAXES (and apparently, they do so without complaint). Women have choices, men have meaningless and ultimately unfulfilling and degrading obligations... AND THE FEMINISTS STILL AREN'T HAPPY, women and girls are somehow STILL the oppressed sex, what MORE could they POSSIBLY demand from men and boys which they have not already stolen from them?
Dutton barely mentioned Defence in the budget response. For years we've been hearing about the serious threat and nothing but promises for 'something' in 10 years......
some people here have no idea how important america is to us. if it wasn't for america we all wouldn't be here now. plus Australia has the most resources in the world what makes you think china or Russia wont do anything. remember its human nature not to trust everyone you meet.
america --endless war just for starters
Fight for one of the most woke country, never
The choice is fight for a woke country, or wear the yoke of another.
Send the government first
Young Aussie men are not respected in Victoria they now have a Minister of state to show them how to act...... Really you go fight the wars show us how its done Minister of men.
They are condemned as violent, hated by their communities and expected to accept the contempt with a smile on their face, told they aren't important (and in fact, dangerous) in the role of father and husband, burdened by the OBLIGATION to work 80 hours a week to pay way too much in tax so the government can subsidize the cost of living AND housing (many of them I'd imagine can't afford housing despite the fact that they work) for single mothers and their children or any other woman deemed in need of the support (without even so much of a single minute of an end to the constant contempt they get as a thank you)... dude, fucking hell, men and boys are being so completely abused in your country, made to be wage slaves to pay for their own obsolesce in relation to women and children; and also it may come to pass (and this really is icing on the "male privilege" cake) that they may have to go die in war for a country that first disposed of them emotionally, then financially, and then finally, mortally. How is no one fighting this insanity, it's seriously pissing me off watching all these fucking bureaucrats presume to talk down to and about THE VERY PEOPLE WHO PAY NEARLY ALL THE TAXES (and apparently, they do so without complaint). Women have choices, men have meaningless and ultimately unfulfilling and degrading obligations... AND THE FEMINISTS STILL AREN'T HAPPY, women and girls are somehow STILL the oppressed sex, what MORE could they POSSIBLY demand from men and boys which they have not already stolen from them?
We are about to enter a period where high-end warfare is potentially required (we have not fought at that level since Korea 1950s). The ADF is not equipped to fight at that level, nor will it be for another 10+ years. I would be very cautious about joining a military in such a poor state.
Just remember they are all in together , they all promote fear , fear & fear
Our politicians are not worth fighting for.
Good luck with that.
As recently departed soldier, I can confirm that the most senior levels of Army are obsessed by woke ideology, appearances and their own careers. Defence capability, (especially retention), come a poor fourth to those. To change that, you would need a complete change of culture.
I don't see how that is remotely possible. Not when those promoting the woke agenda are at the top of pretty much every sector of society.
However, Hastie needs to be careful. Labor inherited the a defence in decline after 9 years of coalition neglect. Neglect that has been the norm from Australian governments for better than 20 years.
Decline in defence spending?
Old Mate is leading by example,
Word around the camp fires ,
is that,
he's bought 2 new jets, so that he and his mates can
use confiscated rifles to fly around our borders, shooting at any invaders.
Why WW3 is coming ?
It’s here already.
WW3 started 3 years ago , there will no bullets or bombs , ie they don't what all the 5 g towers down do they
Good luck getting lebbos to join.
Why would they want to kill their brothers for Jews?
@Kisyfurr when and where?
If they aren't loyal to Australia, then go to Lebanon.
@tikkabrno why would you fight a war on the other side of the world to prove you're loyal to Australia. The people that want you to fight are the ones that created all lgbtq shit and DEI
Just do what we are talking about doing here in America. To solve the intentionally caused immigration problem, we might exchange citizenship for service. That way when the military is ordered to harm the citizens, without any ties, there is little barrier to doing so. What could go wrong?
the ADF has pushed the DEI program with only women being selected. many young men apply but are rejected.
Young Men shouldn't waste their time and life joining the ADF it's not worth it.
Women only make up 20% of the ADF.
They are condemned as violent, hated by their communities and expected to accept the contempt with a smile on their face, told they aren't important (and in fact, dangerous) in the role of father and husband, burdened by the OBLIGATION to work 80 hours a week to pay way too much in tax so the government can subsidize the cost of living AND housing (many of them I'd imagine can't afford housing despite the fact that they work) for single mothers and their children or any other woman deemed in need of the support (without even so much of a single minute of an end to the constant contempt they get as a thank you)... dude, fucking hell, men and boys are being so completely abused in your country, made to be wage slaves to pay for their own obsolesce in relation to women and children; and also it may come to pass (and this really is icing on the "male privilege" cake) that they may have to go die in war for a country that first disposed of them emotionally, then financially, and then finally, mortally. How is no one fighting this insanity, it's seriously pissing me off watching all these fucking bureaucrats presume to talk down to and about THE VERY PEOPLE WHO PAY NEARLY ALL THE TAXES (and apparently, they do so without complaint). Women have choices, men have meaningless and ultimately unfulfilling and degrading obligations... AND THE FEMINISTS STILL AREN'T HAPPY, women and girls are somehow STILL the oppressed sex, what MORE could they POSSIBLY demand from men and boys which they have not already stolen from them?
He is the man who stuffed it. He made changes to where the fleet commander wanted to throw him over the side. Get that up ya. They never served a day in uniform.
Offer fee free university education for students after 5 yrs completed service and 5 years reserves afterwards, and give a lifetime interest free homeloan as well. Ramp up and grow the school cadets programs so young people can get a taste of what Defence life is like to pique their interest The government always bangs on about how important defence service is well prove it. You'd never have recruiting issues ever again by employing the above a serious benefit for a serious commitment. Soldiers Sailors and Airmen get sweet FA at the end of the day. once all is said and done they get very little in the way of tangible benefits. Not that they do it for riches they want to serve but that's the truth of it. You want a different outcome Canberra try another approach.
all this talk about Red China...and yet we still sell them Iron Ore?
So? they still can't build anything that lasts with it
Every Mans Stamp Shop Has Different Price Tags!!!
Like digital id shpuld have gone to public vote and not RUSHED through senate.
The government wouldn’t have a clue to have moral
I've tried joining the Australian Army but the abstract reasoning is the biggest barrier for most, but ironically and frustratingly i doubt this Hyper Beurocratic government to change.
Why get people when you can use dingos
From the top down their retention sucks due to how they run the ADF and how they treat their people. Let alone the sub optimal budget allocated to defence.
Im going to need my digital ID before i go die for a country that doesnt like me.
Not fighting the Russians....not fighting for Nazi Ukraine.
Well war will come 100% people. Strong leadership is needed
australia gotta learn to sat NO
FIGHT FOR BLACKROCK AND CO....ARE YOU KIDDING.
It’s not only labor ! Both major parties are to blame .
A massive roll of defence is deterrence , there’s certainly no deterrence.
It’s not just our country, it’s the wealth under the soil that’s up for grabs .
No chance. We have just seen the Army eat its own Afghanistan heroes, so why would someone join such a mess. I have warned off 2 nephews and a daughter this morass of wokeness that is the defence forces today. In every war prior to this, the code was what happens in war, stays in war. Will we start talking about the Japanese eating dead Australian soldiers in Kokoda rather than starve to death, the massacre of Australian nurses on the beaches, and the Australian soldiers responses. War is brutal, and more brutal.
Your daughters would be crazy not to join.
Guaranteed promotion and will never see real combat.
Beg then to join
And so who got rid off the fleet air arm Mr Beasley.
Where is all the missile and rocket defence?
We are one big island !
Governments just keep craping on about it , and about drones ? Nothing?
Its really a disgrace !!!!
When the people who make weapons give the enemy the plans, what fking chance have you got?
Why not let fellow commonwealth men and women fight in your forces like the British army does, I’m British and I’d consider signing up if I was able to make Australia my home after I’ve served the country
If the rich want it so much, let the rich pay for it Australia has always needed the US to defend itself there, is nothing new there. The ADF does a great job and I am grateful for their services. So much more spending cannot be at the expense of the poor and those being left behind. Make sure they know they have something worth defending.
they dont realise why theyre not getting recruits ?
If ADF wants to solve this dilema....
can name a few reasons :
1.
they forced, coerced or used other means or threats to get thier mlilitary personel jabbed during the covid pandemic.
2.
they dont need to fight other peoples wars.
if they send our soldiers over to europe to fight the coming Nato/Russia/Turkey war then dont expect many survivors
solution
1. Make a National , public apologyto the Australian military personel and to the Australian public for the brutal/tyranical methods used to force people to get jabbed.
2.
Promise to the Australian people and defense recruits that the ADF will never enact such a method again or to coerce people to do things against their free will.
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Eat good food
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Provide real support to those who have been injured or families or those killed during any wars.
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Procure a 4th AWD immediately
Yep need about 10 million people.
ADF should do a TAFE scheme and get early school leavers into apprenticeship and traineeships through cadets programs. Also get into the highschools and offer trades courses and medical courses.
2024 "They were only nineteen"
HMAS Cerberus is a JOKE the instructors don't want more people you get pay more for less people
I doubt if one in twenty are suitable military service with all the physical and mental demands
it doesn't matter how much money is spent on defence if you have unreliable power system which will make a country a third world country with no industry
How dumb do you think people are?
The ADF, based on 17/18th century ideas in the 21st century, not going to work when most people have at least a year 12 education, remember most people who fought for Australia in previous wars finished schooling in primary schools.
I think military spending needs to be at 10% of Australian national GDP and up with 30% with Health care and education 10% for each
Mandatory service if you want Centrelink Done ✔️
you hide,
you will be uncovered
you be open and transparent,
you will be trusted
Go on then, but no one should be forced.
Bit late.
Why would you governments dont care anyo e anymore
There is no pride in serving anymore unless they teach a trade
😂 god help us with Gen z recruiting
Fix the DVA + increase wages by paying onuses for completing training + actually offer training continuously +
introduce conscription with NO overseas component but have civil options so the basic training can be completed.
Give new migrants 3 years service!
Time for the ANZAC or CREATE PIAC Pacific Island Army Corp,
Start recruiting soldiers from PNG ASAP
Tell us something we don't know Sheesh.
Australia has already lost.
Common Aussies dont even know what would happen what do we do, will we hear sirens or just bombs, will we have some where to run to or maybe just sit and wait for the world to calm down maybe - like nothing will happen here
Someone please explain what we at home can do
Maybe if our politicians actually done something about the real problems here we would join. No point in joining just for us to be treated lesser than the immigrants are.
No one wants to fight while Politicians cant answer simple questions or cannot be transparent to the people that voted them in.
New start alternative
Well, the ADF shouldn't be so concerned with just recruiting females. I know of a number of men that have been waiting for replies from DFR for 18 months. They've just given up waiting now and moved on.
Mate the current issue is the Australian Army ,they do not look after their people . Hiding incompetent officers who treat our people like trash then disappear when they are medically unfit is a disgrace . The Airforce has no issues, the Navy is only a bit behind understandable given the lowest level of unemployment since the 1970s
Would you say the Airforce is the best sector in the defence?
@@neabdi depends on what you want to do a specialise in but as i said the army currently has real problem
@@richardeast5660 thanks!
Defence won't win or lose an election.
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Give higher salaries
It goes further than a strong defense force, you also have to have a strong and robust manufacturing force with the skills to operate it. We have neither, having given that advantage away so many years ago, to the very adversary that we fear, China. Don't think America can save our arse, they are in the same boat, but don't know how to keep their mouths shut, preferring the bully diplomacy that has caused this tension in the world we are experiencing. The western world is years away from being able to fight a major conflict because of stupid policies of the past and present and to putting the good of the lobbyists before the good of the country and it's people.
Now, we are defencles without USA ,definitely 🐖💯❤️🤗🌎🇦🇺👍🇺🇸 1:56
We should not put all our defencles in the one basket.
National service sounds good to me. At the very least it would make Men and Women out of people that are confused about their gander.
They encourage all that bullshit in the army
Get the immigrants to join the army.
Back in the American Civil War days the Union Army recruited the Irish immigrants as soon they got off the boat.
Are you sure you want certain immigrants trained and armed? I don’t. They are bad enough at driving.
Funny. Currently in the recruitment process and just pure dicking around. Constantly having emails ignored. Application can't progress because i can't see functions on the website. Recruiter saying I should see stuff and be able to fill out forms that i can't see. Then, no responses. Pure fuckery and beauracracy in that place. Happened to a mate as well.
Boomers telling millennials and zedders what they should do. . 😂
Good. They are the ones ruining the world.
If someone is talking about sending you into danger I am not sure the age of the person doing the talking is your first concern.
Poor snowflake.
Yes boomers make crappy kids.
@@Diponty My reply to Brettly got censored.
the aptitude test is the problem, we need Nationalism to recruit.
bruh if you can’t pass the aptitude there is a problem
@@tysondaly9534 yes and the problem is the aptitude test, the Governemnt can't possibly boast about having record low employment numbers whilst simultaneously having Einstein level tests that hold very finite relevance to any military based activity. after all, the will to fight and die for a country is a rare commodity in and of itself;
@@jackbrown8735 bruh if you can’t work out what colours sally’s car there is an issue
Bruh have you tried the abstract reasoning aptitude test, screenshot the results if you think you know better.
@@jackbrown8735 idk how i’m supposed to screen shot to youtube but i also don’t know how to get my answers as they do not tell you what you got wrong and right
I agree. With China moving in the direction of war with Taiwan, we need more people to serve in the military.
But that's going to difficult when we have an education system that constantly berates Australia and only looks at the bad elements of its history. Sure, Australia has made a lot of mistakes in it's past history, but mentioned ONE nation that doesn't have any wrong doings in their past?
Take Kenny the flop, he sounds like he wants to die for Israel. The rest of us don't.
More countries are using AI soldiers.
You lot wouldn’t have a clue.
Come on, Labor have promoted 3 women to 3 star rank. That certainly is a big tick ✅
Andrew Hastie , you go first followed by you family
Andrew did serve
He served in Afghanistan with SASR. So he's already put his body on the line for his nation. Maybe when commenting in future, you should check your facts.
Conscription for 40 to60 first
More like 20 to 40 age groups.
If our army wasn’t just americas lap dog then maybe I would
You wouldn't even be here commenting, if it wasn't for the US military intervening in the Pacific during the Japanese invasion to our north!!
@@jasonclark950 brother, you needa wipe your chin cos you’ve got the us military’s jizz on it. Honestly just shut ya mouth ya dumb dog and don’t come here trying to rationalise the fact that America uses Australia as a lap dog to do their bidding. We should be an independent republic, not americas side piece that does its bidding. If you think it’s acceptable for the US to be running things, then you’re a brain washed moron and exactly what America wants
@@jasonclark950 you absolute maggot
@@jasonclark950 shut ya mouth ya dumb dog. America uses Australia as a big military base and gets us to do their dirty work and pay for their useless subs. If you think that’s acceptable, then you’re a brainwashed fool who needs to off himself
@@jasonclark950 TH-cam keeps deleting my comments so I can’t even defend my position. Enjoy being USA’s lap dog mate
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reading majority of the comments here i've come to the conclusion that aussies best start learning mandarin
The Australian government is already under Chinese rule! Australia is a tyrant nation already. There wouldn’t be much difference if we flew the Chinese flag. No sane person would fight for this country that has already abandoned us