Teen Doesn't Realize He's Going to Prison For Life
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In this documentary Karina Vetrano went out for a jog one evening in her neighbourhood of Howard Beach, New York City. When she didn't return, searches began and later an investigation. This led to Chanel Lewis, a man who confessed but there has always been scrutiny about that.
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Her mother’s speech was EPIC! Good on them for not editing it or trying to correct her language.
I know! I was pleasantly surprised they didn't try to censor her speech.
@@joebauers3746
😊
@@joebauers3746.. it would be nice but the way the culture in the west is now it’s like we live in opposite world.
It was crude and vulgar. She embarrassed her daughter's memory with her uncouth mouth. A shame that you're no better.
@@kellyclassen3770sad commentary on your morals and "dignity".
“If only I’d gone with her” is playing on repeat in his mind, and I’m heartbroken for him and her family.
maybe he payed the black to do it???
@@jasonvoorhees5640 you must be fun at parties.
Just trying to imagine being in his shoes hurts too much. This is the worst case scenario, ultimate nightmare for any father. It's irreparable damage to the soul. I hope that his family are able to help him carry this cross, because I know he's feeling broken inside.
Eh, I doubt society lost much.
@@gomahklawm4446real edgy buddy, you'll grow out of it one day.
Karina's poor dad, I cannot imagine finding your own daughter beaten and dead. Rest in peace Karina🙏🕊️
And violated
The victim of an African savage beast with a black heart!!
And the guilt he might feel for not going with her that night. Jfc
Being a man, I could never imagine what the poor dad went through when he found her.
I think finding anyone u love so deeply would be traumatic. But yes, in a state like that knowing what they must have gone through would intensify that trauma significantly 😢
Jesus, I can’t even imagine the hell of that day for her father. He was already in pain, then he searched for his baby and found her body at 11pm. The thought of the horror, of the duality of the memory of how he would have held her when she was born and then when he found her at the end. Humanity is just the saddest thing imaginable.
The guilt this poor father must have wishing he could turn back the clock and go with her. Of course he shouldn’t feel guilty at all but as a parent you always blame yourself. And he had to find her like that?! I don’t know how I would cope.
I know! But this guy may have got her another time…I’ve only just started watching but this freak was probably a prowler and may have come across her again when she was alone. The dad must feel terrible though, I really can’t imagine.
I hope he has reminded himself often enough that he couldn't possibly have gone running with her that day. It's impossible to walk to the bathroom without significant difficulty and pain when those back attacks happen, and that simple thing takes forever to do. Not that I think it would help him get rid of the guilt all together, but repetitious reminders can help ease the guilt a little bit over time. An absolute nightmare!
The guy wouldn't make it to the courthouse.
Well, he does have a stupid accent right?
The only reason he should feel guilty, is if he had something to do with his daughters murder, but he didn't I hope he forgives himself for not being there, with his daughter...
The mom said what any parent would want to say in that moment. I couldn’t imagine her heartbreak 💔
The mother's anger is completely understandable and justified. The pain she feels is excruciating. The murder of a loved one is extremely difficult to deal with.
I totally agree. there is some other dickless piece of shii in the comments above saying her mom is insufferable and put on an embarrassing display. he must be a predator too if a grieving mother's speech to her child's murderer offends him!!
Absolutely!! 😢
She had me at "dickless"
Her speech was epic 🙌🏿🙌🏿🙏🏿❤️
Okay, mom’s speech was absolutely iconic. I love her.
Shows you how ill mannered and badly brought up and un educated the average American is.
She doesn't even realise that she is pathetic herself addressing the killer with facts unproven.
I understand her anger and grief, but her language is appalling not to mention the accent from down town Nioowe Yioark.
Just north of a Red Neck there. But only just. LOL.
New York, man. They don’t mince.
Mom was right on point! May their Family know Love and Healing.
Yeah, applauding vulgarity. If it was said by a person from the third wrld, I'm sure you won't be applauding the speech
@@Rugelacharugulayeah New Yorkers, the perfect example of uncivlizd people
It’s so depressing to think about how many people have died for a few moments of sexual gratification for another person. Life is brutal and unrelenting man.
But it’s really not about sexual gratification. It’s about power. They want to control and own that person. They want to punish the victim by proxy for some past slight they felt from them or someone else.
@@JennarationXyea you're right....but it's still only a momentary gratification
It is not about sexual gratification. It is about power and rage and control. 💔
Humans are animals after all bro. Animals do this in the wild all the time.
Sex, money and power... the driving forces for crime..
It’s always so eerie and sad seeing someone’s last moments. Them not knowing a worst nightmare is about to happen.
And it’s always THEM as the perpetrators
God allows evil. Why? Because of many things we don't have the ability to fully understand but one reason is that if He eliminated all evil, humans would not have free will. God will not force love on us, we have to choose to accept it or not.
@@smartyjonez5470keep that racism off this channel take that somewhere else. Evil exist in all races. DO BETTER
Them who?@@smartyjonez5470
There's a show called Final Moments and you are exactly right
As a father of 3 girls, I cannot begin to imagine the guilt her father felt. I can only hear his pain.
Likewise
He's not more guilty than his daughter who forgot to put on some cloths.
No, I'm not victim blaming. None of them is to be blamed. However, if you walk around naked, you will draw unwanted attention.
@@verabolton Dude, the guy was a predator. She drew attention by being alone. It would not have mattered if she had been dressed like a nun. Some people just have a compulsion to rape/kill.
@@enaitat What's your point?
Women should not walk around naked, that's my point. I'm a woman and I'm disgusted by other women thinking it's OK to walk around wearing nickers and a bra.
She was allegedly nervous to go for a run alone. But she wasn't nervous to go naked?! Yes, predators will attack no matter what. Still, women should dress properly.
@@verabolton anyone who has the want to rape/kill a woman isn't doing it because she is wearing the clothes she is wearing. she could've been completely covered and he still would've done the same when the opportunity arose because she was alone and it was convenient for him. saying "no im not victim blaming" doesn't change the fact you're blaming the victim.
I remember this case and how upset my dad was when he learned her father found her like that.
Something that struck us both is how much victim blaming I saw online, the old "well, look how she was dressed" bullshit. Like her outfit was the problem and not the murderer.
Its not bullshit though is it? Its like rubbing yourself in blood then jumping in shark infested waters and acting shocked when you get bitten.
Those people are r@pists that say she was asking for it because that's exactly how they think.
@@roykropper2239So you're saying if you're driving a Beamer or a Mercedes then you're asking to get carjacked or robbed? And you deserve it yeah that's your logic.
Oh stop. The few out there are far from the majority smh
Thats.....a terrible take@@roykropper2239
As a long time viewer of your channel, I was a little taken aback initially to see this video. Karina was on of my best friends in high school and this was a really horrific thing to happen to our Queens community. I actually can’t watch this video because I didn’t realize as a true crime watcher how difficult it can be to see something that hits so close to home. I’m more than sure you will give it the respect and dignity it deserves as you do with every story. Sending love and support from NYC.
❤💔 So sorry your dear friend was taken away from all who loved her - and so senselessly and shockingly. I remember hearing of this when it happened. She clearly was making significant valuable contributions to the world, and deserved to live a long, happy life.
I'm so very sorry for your, and all her loved ones, pain. She seemed like a wonderful woman that was trying to make a difference in the world. I hope your grief lessens over time, even though it won't disappear completely, and that you keep your fond memories with her alive ❤❤❤
Sometimes we forget the real people behind these stories. Thank you for reminding us. I’m so sorry for your loss.
♥️ from 🇸🇪
He does not show respect for victims lmao and hints that the police were raxist and he’s innocent
As a father, I can not imagine finding my daughter like that. Heartbreaking. I don’t think I would want to live another moment.
As a mom, I feel the same. I don't know how these parents go on. 😢
Same. 100%.
yes bc if she were racist, he wouldnt have grabbed her by surprise and beat the crap out of her...he wouldve just walked away. P.S.... your psychopothy is showing@@thebeacon2
@@thebeacon2 thisbkindnofnlogic would likely get more people hurt. These kinds of crimes are committed by all kinds of guys. Being racists just puts false blinders on you. Really people need to learn to differentiate between regular non-threatening people (which can be people of any color) and between sketchy people up to no good (also not exclusive to skin color).
@@thebeacon2Please, keep your disgusting & uneducated beliefs to yourself. 🤥🤢🤮
No parent should ever find themselves in the position of finding their child dead
Indeed yes what an absolutely appealing case this is! 🙏☘️
No parent should outlive their child either 😕
@@DaveSCameron I... I hope you meant appalling 💀
Don’t live near certain groups.
It's horrible
The fact that her dad said "turn yourself in, give the money to your family". Like I don't care, I need justice and peace, money is nothing. My heart breaks for her parents and loved ones 🥺
The jumping of her family when the verdict was read makes my stomach turn. They seem to be full of hatred 🥺
They should have hatre for the guy. You have made some extremely stupid comments@@verabolton
@@verabolton bro the dude just killed their family member id jump for justice too what's wrong with u.. commenting on everyone's comments sticking up for this scum bag u his brother or something.
@@verabolton Wow. A third stupid comment from you. You're on a roll.
@@rainman6090 Online stalker detected 🧐
Her poor dad.. his potential level of remorse and survivors guilt, a loss beyond comprehension, the trauma of finding her like that, considering the depth of their connection, utter soul crushing agony..
that footage of her mom calling out the killer is absolutely powerful
yeah she was some force to be reckoned with to be taken down by such a weak and puny coward 🤣
@@NotAnAmericanwhat the…
@haleymae1297 it's not exactly a pleasant thing to say but it is true.
@@mikeydildosthen why fuckin say it? people just blurt out whatever stupid thought pops in their head these days.
@kkei09 just because something isn't pleasant doesn't change the fact it's true. I think we could do with a whole lot more truth instead of screwing around with all these false niceties and putting up with idiots who spout nonsense (before you jump to conclusions, not calling anyone in this case an idiot).
I lived at Howard Beach when this happened, and knew Karina from just seeing her around. When this happened it really messed up the whole community for a bit. Her dad, Phil was a firefighter that responded to 9/11, and I've never seen a man in such a bad state.
I hope he is doing better, and RIP Karina.
I usually watch That Chapter's videos multiple times, but I can't with this one.
😢😢😢
Tc
Yeah dad probably blamed himself till this day for not and why not jogging with her that day, he also found her, gosh these parents that got a murdered child I can't and never know how they feel, so sad
Hope you’re okay xo
Oooh you can’t because it hits close to hoooome oooh how saaad
Karina was making a difference in our world
Masters in speech therapy for those who truly needed help.
RIP Katrina🙏🏼
And taken out by a guy that would be a succubus on society. So senseless.
@@oldhickory4686I agree except I thought it would be an incubus, but I could be wrong.
@traybern is Sesame Street still on television? I loved SS 🥰
I still count ~ Count Dracula style
Ahh ah Ahh 😅
Learning disability doesn't mean mentally handicapped to the point of being incapable of comitting a crime or understanding the wrong being done. By the nature of his web searches it seems he's more than intelligent enough to have known exactly what he was doing.
Exactly.
Yes, but someone close to him can very easily manipulate him into taking the fall while they stay in the shadows or while they collect that reward. Sad, but it happens.
@@vageta9281984How'd his DNA get under her fingernails? And how'd her TOOTH get in his hand?🙄🙄🤦
they are generally intellectually stunted anyway, with the majority of the population having an iq of 85 or lower. its pretty obvious why excuses like a 'learning disability', which is essentially low impulse control, at scale is a very poor idea.
@afonphoenix16 again, manipulation is real. Sadly, the mentally handicapped can be convinced to do almost anything because some of them lack reasoning and won't understand what or why they are told to do something or what's being done to them.
His trip to the hospital with injuries to his hands the day after the murder is what did it for me then hearing about his cell phone and his Google search history.
The cell phone pinging (he lived close by) and the Google history (was it after he had his DNA taken?) would mean nothing to me normally, but combined with the next-day hospital visit it really does start to feel less like a coincidence...
Trust me, some of us be googling rando stuffs that would make a jury send you to the gallows in a heartbeat
@@golderp oh absolutely, but how many of us are also going to the hospital to get tooth fragments removed from our hands the day after a girl was beaten so hard her teeth chipped? it's not conclusive but it does make you wonder
@@CantTellYouDidn't he say they dug the girl's tooth out of his arm? With a detail like that, the only way I could believe that he was not the murderer is if he tried to kill her, she got away, and then someone else actually finished the job, in which case he's not innocent at all.
@@raizeline they didn't say they removed tooth fragments. When interviewed later, the doctor said it could have been tooth fragments. Nothing was ever tested or confirmed and it's not like he looked closely at the time he treated him because at that time, this guy wasn't connected to the murder at all. The doctor probably hadn't even heard about it at that point. You know what else can pass for fragments of teeth? Gravel. What I'm wondering is how did he beat her so hard that her teeth were broken and her face all busted up but still was able to use his hand enough to strangle her. Because it almost seems like it can't be both. If someone beat her like was des robed, I have serious doubts about their ability to then use that same hand to strangle the woman, which takes both hands and a lot of strength, especially if they're fighting, which she was.
Finally, a parent who spoke in the same manner I would if one of my kid's were a victim! An eloquent wordsmith who leaves nothing to interpretation!
Far from eloquent.
She's not eloquent, she's vulgar. That's not how you honor your child.
@@user-gj1me4mf5c "Eloquent: Clearly expressing or indicating something".
Are you slow? Because it's pretty damn clear what she was expressing with her speech, that's quite literally the definition of eloquent.
Do you also speak with such a stupid accent?
@@annap4016sure but never underestimate the power of a well crafted statement
Makes you realize that someone is always watching and looking to catch you alone. My bro delivered papers as a kid. The one time our father didn’t go with him a stranger tried to abduct him. He managed to escape his grip and run home but he came close to being a statistic.
@hiddxnlxavxs3968 exactly- men. stay away from men at all costs
@hiddxnlxavxs3968It’s impossible sometimes. I wish she had had something on her, even a nail file or kubaton.
@hiddxnlxavxs3968what demographic are you talking about?
@@maddieb.4282Seeing as they posted "usual suspects" elsewhere, it's pretty clear what they're about.
@@maddieb.4282 the Italian one.
People need to understand as soon as you go outside into the world you have the potential to encounter someone who means you harm. Hell even in your own home you’re not safe.
Mom’s speech was beautiful. Brought a tear to my eye.
And she was holding back, too. At 9:35, you can hear the father in the background echoing her words. I feel for them. Cant imagine what theyre going through right now.
@@AsterSea I know, truly hard to comprehend the pain and shock they are experiencing. She held herself together amazingly.
Ima rain on your parade, but F this mindset. If cussing out evil in anger is your definition of "beauty" then you need to check yourself before you wreck yourself, Ms Inquisitor.
Why am I even saying that? Well there's a famous quote Im probably gonna butcher: _"Beware, those who fight monsters. For when you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back"_
*Strong?* Sure. *Admirable?* Yeah. *A great rallying cry?* Absolutely. There are a _thousand good words_ you could possibly say about her speech -
- but "beautiful" is just about the worst pick available.
Deny it or hate me, if you really have to - don't care. I had to say this, now have a good day.
@@Magepure6749 what?! CLEARLY I WAS JOKING. Her words did bring a tear to my eye but because I felt her deep gutted pain, not because it was a beautiful moment. Her words made me feel intense pain so I can’t imagine what she’s feeling. How did you miss that?! Imma rain on your parade and f your mindset right back because what?
The mothers strength was unbelievable. There were no tears but you can see she held those tears back to let the murderer know we are coming for you. I see so many families shedding tears obviously thats a given but to be so strong and be proud for her daughter like that is so sweet 🙂
That's a Mama bear using all her strength to turn absolute despair into anger and vengeance for justice. Her speech was one of the realest I've ever seen.
It's nice that so many people here sympathise with the parents. There's a vocal group who say Chanel was framed but don't stop there. They accuse the victims father. Vile beyond lack of sympathy for the victims.
Do you think it's impossible for a father to murder his daughter? 🤔
@@verabolton not that it's impossible for a father to have murdered a daughter but that its cruel to accuse a man of that without a shred of evidence when hes already suffering with grief... he is already in enough pain and now peoplee are saying he did it with no reasoning or proof?
@@veraboltonthis is the most inane and brain dead way to respond to that comment. Like your effort at manipulating and twisting their statement is so blatant it’s actually quite funny
Typical BLM supporters. Any black person accused of anything is always innocent. Disgusting. Why do they have wildly higher violent crime rates than any other group?
@@verabolton Between this and the "naked" comment, you've really put on a display of stupidity today.
There shouldn't be any controversy. He admitted to doing it, the DNA matched, the comments he made about women, plus the Google searches??? Dude needs to be locked up for life
Barely 5 minutes in & already so horrific. For a father, already worried sick, to find his daughter that way is just truly heartbreaking 😢💔 I can't imagine what he went through imagining what she had gone through 😭
I tell ya M,it's life altering and can make her father very ill without REAL support,counseling,and possibly a support group/mixed (Male and Female)who'm have suffered a murderous loss,Strength in numbers,only time I guess/suppose,only time
I remember this like it was yesterday. I lived in Queens my whole life and just moved to NC last week so this was huge news locally. She ran this path constantly and Howard Beach is known for Mafia families calling it home (Gotti for example) so it was known for its safety. This was horrific. The wait had to be torture. Her death was so tragic for her parents (any parent would suffer ). Can we give mom a hardy cheer? Great video Mike.
i live in Woodhaven!
Howard Beach is also known for racism.
@@sammygirl6910 I would say was, definitely more diverse now ,but , yes.
@@sammygirl6910 Most Italian Americans are. but it's not like a hate thing. it's more like a "stick your kind" thing. I grew up just like this family.
Dido that. I'm still here
The thing that saddens me is when you see a picture of the victim as a kid, carefree and supposedly with their whole life ahead of them. No reason to think they would not grow to live long, fulfilling lives.
And for it to end so senselessly, I really hate this world sometimes.
Even serial killers were kids and care free. Even this killer. Sooo what’s your point?
@@ThomasVega-et9ce although you are correct, its a shame you are too stupid to understand my point. Find something better to do than make replies for the sake of getting noticed
@@ThomasVega-et9ce they said pictures of *victims*.
@@kristinwojtowich8902 same thing
@ThomasVega-et9ce how is a picture of the victim & a picture of the killer the same thing ? .... I mean they'd both be pictures to be fair but 2 different people that played 2 different roles in this act ... victim & killer
So in fact it isn't the same thing 🤷♂️
I grew up right around there. All my friends knew Catrina. She went missing near the weeds in Howard Beach where wise guys used to dump bodies. Her father went on a whole media tour. It was a HUGE deal in Queens. I feel awful for the family. They're good people.
Key word mob spot, I think it was a hit and the dad knew it was coming hence why he didn’t go that day
@@fourthquartersports7571 yeah but if you grew up around connected guys too then you know wives and kids do NOT get touched unless he did the unthinkable. And a gambling debt gets YOU smacked around a bit… at worst you wind up in the weeds yourself… never the daughter. Ya know?
What's the general consensus around your parts? Do you guys think he did it?
they house looked beyond what a firefighter could afford. The father didn’t show much emotion either .The kid charged was coached into incriminating himself. He seemed intellectually challenged and innocent.
@@1dvs_bstd it’s mixed. You get allot of nosey guinny loudmouths that think they know but it’s impossible. the thing around here, especially if it’s wise guy related, is you could know 100 connected guys and never get the real answers. Only people who know are the gunman, lone or otherwise, and the few people who set it into motion IF that was the case which I don’t personally believe. Me? I think it was a super hot young girl scantily dressed in a dangerous area that was raped by a horny evil scumbag. They’re everywhere here ESPECIALLY when you get closer to Pitkin Ave in Brooklyn which is RIGHT there…
Having read some of the comments--no one has the right to judge a mother for what she says in a press conference when her daughter is raped, beaten, and murdered. It is not her morals we need to concern ourselves with, but those of a person who can commit such a crime.
Exactly! Thank you for saying it. I find it disgusting, all the judgements made on mom. She spoke real and from her heart, from a place of pure pain and anguish, I'm sure. How dare anyone not in her shoes judge her language? I think it was mild given the circumstances.
Who was judging? All I see is comments commending her lol
Really, really good comment
I feel absolutely horrible for the father. As a father myself I would be playing the what if game for the rest of my days. It is bad enough that he has to live with that guilt, but to have been the one who found her on top of everything else.... I just can't even imagine the pain he is in!
So why are you judging the killer? He probably had a harder life than the girl he killed. So why no pity for him? Don't judge.
Her mom sounds amazing and strong and loving all at the same time. Her speech even though very tough made me cry.
her accent... yuck
My deepest condolences to Karina's father and family. May her beautiful soul RIP 🕊
DNA, damning cellphone activity, cell tower pings showing he’s in the area at the time of the murder, a hospital visit for physical injuries incurred during a struggle, and a confession … HE’S GUILTY
The DNA under her fingernails is all I need to know he is guilty. I was a molecular biologist, and all I did was work with DNA. There is no controversy behind DNA testing, unless the cops changed the samples, which in this case, seems highly unlikely. All the other circumstantial evidence that you mentioned is the cherry on top. Guilty!
@@denisedevoto5703
Mike did say they used a highly controversial DNA test kit to get quick results.
🤔
Only crazy people would think they can get away with murder. They gonna catch you eventually and unless your family can afford the payoff.....a lot of that goes on here in FL..
@@denisedevoto5703 He didn't say there was issues broadly with 'DNA testing' - it was this specific method...
@@denisedevoto5703you’re actually wrong in this case. They aren’t referencing overall dna testing. They are referencing a specific type of testing that has been proven to be way to inaccurate to be used in any court. To the point almost all states won’t allow this version.
How many times have we heard that about a murderer or serial killer??! “Oh he’s a super sweet person that wouldn’t hurt a fly” .. just goes to show how much you don’t know that person.
Too many times.
Way too many
No one knows anyone. I learned from not having much any family. 47 years and all I've seen is that its strangers you can find comfort in more than people you think you know.
@@Lena-so2lq That can be true, and yes, blood is thicker than water and also messier, yet, true family and friends are a bond that is priceless. Godspeed.
I remember the day this happened. Absolutely sickening. I feel so much for her dad especially.
That mamas speech came from the depths of her _soul_ dude. I could feel the fire in her heart and it made me tear up truthfully. Nothing is stronger than a mother’s love. Mike, I hope you’ve a kick ass day and that you and everyone reading this are being kind to yourselves. Your best is enough. ❤
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Its so refreshing to hear the moms pure anger. She let out every piece of hurt, and you can still tell she held back at some points. A moms love is something i didn't truly understand until i became one. I am enraged, and my heart breaks for her parent's. Especially her dad, i cannot imagine being the one to find my child like that.
Pure anger?😂 She sounded scripted and robotic!
@@ironicly__iconicwell she’s in trauma having her daughter not just dead but murdered 8n the most brutal way sooo. If she gave an incredibly dramatic impassioned articulate speech people still have an issue with that. Cut some slack maybe
you think this is unfortunate…REALLY….What kind of person are you…You need therapy…..
@@ironicly__iconic Who asked?
WOW. Obviously she pre-wrote it. I'm sorry her grief failed to impress YOUR lofty ass.🤦🤦🙄@@ironicly__iconic
I dont understand how getting off once can be worth taking someone's life away. How do they live with themself and their greed. Parents need to do more to tech their kids empathy because the number of narcissists out there is too numerous.
I think about this often, one moment of gratification for an entire life and thousands of ripple effects. I think the same thing about cheating as well, I’ve never had sec so great that I’d blow up my life I’ve built for one singular moment in time. I just don’t understand how a persons brain doesn’t do that math equation before making a decision that will affect the rest of their life and others.
@@Notorious.Bree.I.G.the problem is their selfishness overrides any sign of empathy
That Chapter is my favorite TH-cam channel! Thanks Mike for all your hard work, it is much appreciated ❤
I like how he went back to the 'old format' Floating head telling a story, no need for superfluous background ornamentation.
Which chapter?
Her parents are amazing !!! Her mom is a true example of strength 🙏 you said it best about that coward. She was such a precious soul may she rest in peace. Again GET HIM MOMMA !!!! ❤
Don’t piss off mama bear!
@@dianemadigan3252 That was my first thought I have NEVER seen any other parent get on the news and just go at a POS like him I truly admire her strength 💪 and her poor dad 🙏 he found her I believe
Her family is full of hatred. I'm sorry for them for so many reasons...
@@veraboltonwouldn’t you feel hatred and anger too if your child was brutally murdered?
@@veraboltonbtw looking at your other comments you’re not only a bigot, prude, cruel, conspiracy theorist….. get off the internet and look at a sunset or something
I love this mom... I pray she finds peace
Love how after you speak and than play a clip I can rlly hear the New York accents. Being from here I can’t hear it usually but I finally can get a sense of what people hear when I speak
Peace to Karina and her family, specially her father. Her mom was a badass. Karina had such a noble job too, and not an easy one by far.
Best wishes to her family and friends
That was absolutely beautiful the dad kissed moms hand while walking into court…just shows what love is in their family 😢
The only problem I have with your channel, Mike, is I didn't find you sooner. I binge watch your videos, especially at night. I appreciate all your hard work. Thank-you.
Her mums speech was powerful, what an incredibly strong lady ❤
Even Ted Bundy's Mom said "But he was always such a nice boy!" That's why I never believe when a family member/friend claims a person "could NEVER" take a life.
And Chris Watts’ did
Ted Bundy's mom also pretended to be his older sister for his entire childhood. He was raised believing his grandma was his mother. His mom lying to him is probably a significant factor in his hatred of women.
Look at that kids face when he comes out of the police station. He didn't understand what was going on
@@MumaBooyea that made me extremely uncomfortable. He had no idea.
Anyone is capable given the perfect conditions/circumstances 🤷♀️ never forget that 😟
I think the mom actually said less worse things than she could of. She has the right and she’s not wrong about whoever did it 🤷🏼♀️ it’s all just so unfortunate
Personally, I think she showed restraint.
Could've not could of, could of is nonsense
@@galanta3534it could've been a voice to text error? Not a primary language for the person commenting? Someone who hasn't learned contractions, but likes prepositions?😉
@@miaknig3130 there's plenty of native speakers making that mistake.
@@brimstoneonsteam9069 I realize that, and it isn't logical to say "of" but "nonsense"sounds a bit condescending. I've met people who were deprived of any real schooling and they want to learn but shouldn't be apprehensive. Think of the Turpin kids and many who are "homeschooled", it isn't their fault that the parents destroyed their education.
i feel so bad for the father. absolutely sad.
Yeah, but he does have a stupid accent right?
@@mattolivier1835 who? why?
@@anjachan Rewatch the video. It's obvious. Who were YOU talking about? That will give you the answer!
@@mattolivier1835u are a horrible person. You focus on an accent on a man who lost his child? Your what’s wrong with the world now.
@@mattolivier1835 i dunno. didn't hear something weird.
This is horrifying…her running not knowing it would be her last day on earth is so so horribly sad…how someone can take a life like this is beyond me 😔😔😔
And for what? Just to use her body for his own sick pleasure and then discard her like garbage? A whole human being ripped away from the world for nothing. It’s heartbreaking 😢
@@GirlieCarolinas never trust a dark sk!nned person. never relax around them
The mom... That's raw anger, sorrow and grief. I hope the family has some sort of closure though the pain will never go away.
This case has haunted me since it happened because I’m originally from that area and I couldn’t imagine something that horrible happening to my daughters. I hope her dad can find some peace. I really don’t know if I could.
It's almost like he was confessing to a different murder
People want to assume that people with special needs or learning disabilities aren’t capable of doing these type of things.
Exactly. That’s definitely not the case.
Who? Who likes to assume that. I think it's the opposite.
Yup. Meanwhile, crime statistics show otherwise
I honestly loved that mother’s speech. She meant every word. Kick ass mom right there
Hey Mike! I love your videos! I’ve been watching for some time. With all these sad cases you bring us, I’m sure it can get heavy sometimes. So I’m here to remind you that I hope you’re taking care of yourself in between filming and researching. Just saying this because well, we love ya. ❤
😊 well said, thank you.
Well said ❤ Canada
You do? Why? For reading stories while makimg non stop stupid faces? Ok. Get outside more. 😂
No matter how gruesome the crime, there's something chilling about hearing cheers after a convictions
You know what really bothers me? (That no one cares about except for those who strongly defend their position):
When people go on about how someone is gonna get prison justice from other prisoners... It just makes me sick that they advocate for even more evil acts to take place because some people believe being locked up isn't a strong enough punishment.
You ever notice that killers are always "kind, gentle people" according to someone
Well duh bro some people that have committed horrific crimes have always for the most part been just the average person where you wouldn't expect nothing like that from them so of course people are going to say they're kind and gentle people if that's the vibe that you got from them you can only go off of your own personal experiences so when they commit a horrific crime it is shocking
@dyoung12b cringe
Well ya..
The killers family and friends don't see that side most of the time....
So It would make sense
And the victims are usually "bubbly" with amazing smiles.
Well they are 90% of the time. It's just that 10% of the time is truly horrifying.
My family and I love your videos! I showed one of your videos to my parents last year, and they’ve been hooked ever since. Keep up the great work, Mike!
I can't believe an anonymous letter claiming he was innocent and set up didn't get him off!!!
His response to the questions was so casual and matter of fact. Later walking thro the crowd outside the court he looked happy. Perhaps he was relieved to be caught
I feel so horrible for her family 😔 Her mother's speach was epic AF and what any parent would say!🙌🏿 I know her father probably has guilt but its definitely not his fault in any way. I'm glad she put up a good fight and got evidence. Her poor dad finding her had to be absolutely traumatic and I hate that he had to see her that way. This man needs to be locked up forever and never let out SMH 😞 Rest in Paradise beautiful 🙏🏿❤️🕊️
If she was just average or not connected to The Mafia would you have texted the same?
The HALO effect.
I'm here so fast!!
You rock, Mike! I love your channel❤
*It's a lil convenient that they were sent an 'anonymous' letter, telling them to look for the exact opposite type of person, than the one they had found...*
Truly. I'm sure his family members sent that out.
@@ae2948 Either that or a supporter of his or his lawyer.
BLM ✊🏿 Or innocence fraud campaign again. Trying to free another murderer
It's surprisingly common in cases like this. To the point where people are starting to say black on black crime is actually white people wearing silicon masks to look like black people and attack them.
It sounds insane but there's actually quite a few black people who believe it, look it up, there's lots of them making videos on youtube.
Turning into a race issue is a disservice to everyone.
If there's a case that screams for the attention of the conviction integrity unit it's this one. Developing the suspect was some magical cop work. That's just one of many oddities
Getting closer and closer to 2m subscribers and couldn't be happier for you Mike. Your truly dedicated to your work and community. Please keep up the good work and great content, thank you
It's obvious where Karina gets her "force to be reconed with" spirit from. The man obviously went into hiding after hearing her speech and licking his wounds Karina fought with her life against. God bless her mother and rest in peace sweet angel.
Having lost an adult daughter, I have beat myself up for not trying harder to get her away from her husband. I can’t imagine how how Mr. Vetrano must feel and then to be the one who found her. Everyone tells me it’s not my fault so I hope he gets encouragement like that. I hope he has found a good way to cope, because things like this can lead to your death as a parent. Good luck and God Bless Mr. V.
I'm so sorry for your loss. I can't even imagine how horrible that must have been.
@@TobyMax853 Kind words from kind people, mean more than anyone could imagine. Thank you.
So sorry for your loss. It’s not your fault.
I'm so sorry for your loss, sir
I'm so sorry. Bless you, friend. 💔
He admitted to it, had to go to hospital the next day for hand injuries, has a past of being angry at women in particular AND had been researching the case daily and seeing what would happen if he got caught…guilty
Yeah, sorry. I'm someone who actually looks into recovered black boxes out of curiosity and I'm saying that he got way too close to this case. If I started buzzing over one specific plane crash and that was regularly something I'd be involved in, people would reasonably start to doubt my hobby is so innocent.
Good instinct to have, btw. I just like graphs and numbers. Fear those who want more to do with, yknow, -people-.
Love the way you tell these stories, so entertaining. You should do an episode on a girl named Megan McDonald. She was murdered in 2003 in upstate NY and it went unsolved for 20 years. They just made an arrest in earl 2023. My wife was friends with her and I'd love to hear your take on it.
I am from that area where she was found. She was one year older than me but many of my friends knew her. I would love it if Mike would cover her case.
this happened a few miles from where i live. i never even knew they solved the case; just always worried heavily about ever returning to the area. i hope karina’s family has been & continues to be surrounded by nothing but love.
So you lived there and you didn't know they caught him? Of course not. He wasn't White. Sad but true.
Man the moms speech is on point!!! Everything she said I second
I got teary eyed and yelled HELL YEAH at her mother's speech. Powerful.
Her mom's speech gave me chills. Wow. She's amazing
I LOVE how her mother addressed the news. I hope mom and dad are able to find peace and happiness again. I honestly wonder though if he was even physically capable of overpowering her so easily. He looks extremely weak and I'd have to see undeniable proof.
This one is a tough one to watch and it’ll haunt me forever. I think about Karina on almost a daily basis when heading out for my daily run. Since learning of this case, I have been more vigilant of my surroundings, only wear one ear bud, and I always have pepper spray in my hand in the ready to spray position. It is incredibly unfortunate that so many women feel unsafe when running in their own communities. However, we have to deal with it, and make sure that we are prepared for the worst no matter what. RIP KARINA🤍♥️
Please stay safe!
Don't go alone
I'm a petite fairly attractive female (former dancer/cheerleader). I live alone, I walk a lot and I have no boyfriend. Ppl think I'm "TOO PARANOID" or just crazy.
When I had a male roommate, men would come over and ask for him...they see his car isn't there. I don't know if they want me home alone or nobody there to try something either way. Are they casing out me or the house???
@@anajackson6677 cap
How her father could hold himself together and stay strong for his family after being the one to find his daughter is astounding.
Praise to her family but praise to her mother!! Saying what she needed to say with no filter and full of emotion and feeling. I couldn’t imagine what I would be saying or doing if this happened to a friend or family member, let alone a daughter. She is a strong woman and I send my thoughts to this poor woman’s friends and family and my condolences!
So let me get this straight, his DNA matched, he went and got a tooth removed from his hand the day after the murder, his phone was pinged at the location, he was google searching the murder right away, and he confessed, but people wanted to believe he hadn't done it!? Strange times we are living in.
I agree.
Only the water part of his confession doesn't add up.
It's typical to pull race card in 2024 when ur a minority perp and victim is white. When you pull race, all the activist groups spring into action to throw mud on the victims and the case, regardless of facts
@@333-u9o sure, I mean he's special, he didn't have a perfect recollection, doesn't even remotely begin to disprove all of the smoking gun evidence against him. I mean real mic drop stuff. The fact that anyone convinces themselves that monster is innocent infuriates me.
@@333-u9o He could have gotten multiple crimes confused? When he thought they mentioned something about a spillway he pushed himself back in the chair and it made him anxious and angry. This may not be his first crime like this. If you put them in water there wouldn't be much DNA if any left.
The defence went to the Oj playbook, I also think the police should look in to who wrote that letter, my guess would be either one of Chanel's family or an activist group who think he's innocent.
His DNA under her finger nails, his search history after murder, and his cell phone pinging on that tower are convincing enough
😂 like seriously¿ jumping into conclusions based on little evidence is 🚩
black supremecist found@@box106network9
@@box106network9 i hope thats irony
his family is disgusting to defend him knowing what he did.
We love you, Mike! Thanks for the entertainment, excellent storytelling, and empathy you show for these horrible cases.
@@roxanneb8844 that would be humor he’s showing there. I’m talking about that fact that you can tell he cares about the victims, through his humor.
@@roxanneb8844 so …. you don’t like his insurance dance? That’s on you.
@@roxanneb8844it doesn't cost anything to not watch the video
Entertainment?
@@mrcommonsense9074 common sense isn’t so common these days
This case is eerily similar to what happened to 16 year old Franziska Blöchliger in Tokai Forest, Cape Town South Africa.
I used to be an athlete, going for runs every single day. I loved it.
I can't imagine the horrific fear and terror and death these women faced. What their family continues to face. Truly evil.
Rest in peace ladies 😭😭😭💔💔💔
a woman was stupid enough to run alone in south africa??? 😳💀
maybe she wanted to self delete???
I remember, when I was in my 20s, I read a novel where it opened with a woman going jogging alone. And being attacked.
It gave her point of view, of contending with being momentarily breathless from the jogging, putting her at a disadvantage that her killer had likely preyed on.
And over the years, when I hear of lone female joggers being attacked, I remember that fictional victim.
@@JimiBegbaaji
that's also a prison tactic for fights...
Yes, she was killed by blacks, too. Typical.
If you’re jogging down the street and you see a black man, you better cross the road and run faster.
Her family is so amazing being such a strong voice for her. Not everyone is so lucky to be loved as she was. Bless.
Havent seen you without your glasses!!! Love ya either way- Ive been a subscriber for a while and Im so proud of how well you are doing! God bless and keep you safe and happy! 😊
Great timing as usual! 😎
Same time same channel 😎
@@ThatChapter hey, Batman ❤️❤️🩶🖤😂😂
Love you Mike ❤
Best speech any grieving mother has ever given on tv, you tell them Mrs. V!
🤡
Heartbreaking. Such a beautiful family and such a terrible loss.
As the mother to a little girl this is absolutely horrific to think of finding my daughter this way. Feel horrible for the father experiencing that.
I got chills when you said she had weeds in her hands from being dragged )): absolutely heart shattering. I hope her family is healing.
yah i know eh ??? I could just picture her 😢
That's why I don't smoke anymore outdoors anymore 🚬
Guy was probably a dopefriend
I believe they meant weeds from grass/ground.@@dovregubben500
And he has sisters too it’s so sick he could do that to another woman
Ahh man so heartbreaking her father found her. I can only imagine his agony. 😩
Agreed. But he still had a stupid accent.
@@mattolivier1835you have some issues my guy
I have always said i thought this guy had developmental issues. I remember this case and following it. Much love from Harlem NYC Mike, really appreciate what you do!
He definitely has learning disabilities you can tell
He does, I’m still VERY much on the fence about the second verdict.
@@tristyy404 of course you are...
I live near there. I remember Karina. Thank you for covering her story. ❤
This story just breaks my heart... and I have personal experience that happened when I was in university: a girl from my dorm disappeared off of a bike path while training for the NY Marathon, later found dead. Didn't know her, never met her... at the age of 17 it was a bucket of cold water on the head regarding the reality of life in this sick, sad world.
(I am surprised to hear that only 92% of women worry about their safety while running. I hope the other 8% are MMA warrior women.)
Thank you, Mike, for so much insight into who Karina was. She sounded like a bright, compassionate young woman and I can't imagine the depths of grief her family must still feel.
The 8% carry "protection."
worry is useless. caution is proactive
What an amazing mother and I feel so bad for the father him finding her is the exact reason why the police 7sualy tell the family to stay home and wait because it causes tons of trauma
amazing how?
I appreciate the warm and personal touch you add to your videos. You’re usually talking about murder but you make it less gruesome somehow. I’m going to give this video a “geuwh”.
I’m from Howard Beach .. this story was absolutely sad!! I remember her Dad and her used to run ..sad I feel bad for him the guilt he must feel ..God bless her Mom her speech to killer!!
This case haunts me. I can't imagine how her father feels. As a mom, I get upset when my kids get a tiny booboo or my older one gets her feelings hurt. I can't imagine finding any 3 of them dead & in that condition. I don't want to imagine it. I'm bawling my eyes out imagining HIM feeling that pain.
Rest in peace, beautiful Karina. May your spirit bring your father & other loved ones a tiny bit of comfort.