Another honest review of the Harley Fat Bob, great to hear you being so positive about the build quality , the way it rides and how it made you feel, it's a breath of fresh air to hear a Brit bike vlogger talking so positively about a Harley, if they handed out medals for smiles per mile then H-D would be an Olympic gold medalist every time.
I've got a 2010 Dyna Fatbob. Rode down from Stirling to the MotoGP this summer with a roll bag with my camping gear on the back. 7+ hour day no problem. One other plus, push rods, so no valve clearance service! I do like this one but for me you can't beat the Dynas, I've had 5!
Many years ago as a young man I would have rather walked than rode on a Harley, but at the age of 64 I think I finally get them, not sure why with their strange quirks and mannerism's they sort of live and breath. You may think that strange thing to say, but that's' my take on Harley Davidson. Enjoyed your review also . Thank you..
The only way to make a large air cooled V-Twin sound good is to have a single crank pin crankshaft which gives the Harley it's very unusual patented sound. No other engine except Indian and one or two Honda discontinued models have a single crank pin crankshaft. It's magical. Both pistons move as a pair connected to the same crank pin where both connecting rods move as a pair, on one crank pin. This gives the Harley the really unusual firing order which is uneven and not a perfect rhythm which is unlike any other motor.
The fit and finish is second to none ( solid metal parts unlike a lot of plastics on other bikes)… and the cool factor is exponential… it rides good too…
Lovely bike! Hefty price but hey that’s Harley! I agree about the belt drive, wish more manufacturers used kevlar belts as they are arguably stronger & longer lasting than a chain. & essentially maintenance free!
Nice video Andy. I'm on my sixth Harley-Davidson now, a 2021 Street Glide Special. I echo your advice to folks to take advantage of a test ride on a H-D. The range of bikes available is diverse and while it's undeniable that these are expensive machines to buy initially, that is in some way compensated by the very low rate of depreciation. So much of the negativity that we hear about these bikes, is often generated by folks who have never ridden a recent model. Sot try one - you might be pleasantly surprised!
6 HD’s in, that’s some commitment! I really want one at some point, feel like it’s a key part of the journey, to own one at some point… it was the brand that first got me interested in bikes! I find the second hand market really strong, from what I see there is a really high initial depreciation, then the value is really maintained well after that. I guess that depends on the local market, what’s your experience as a 6 time HD owner?
@@MoroMagrew - initial depreciation is no better or worse than any other vehicle, once it leaves the showroom, and currently is significantly lower than ever, due to the continuing supply chain issues for new vehicles. However, you are right that in the longer term, well looked after, dealer serviced, H-Ds hold their value better than any other brand.
Its actually quite a good looking bike, just not sure I could cope with feet forward. Nice to see the BSA T shirt and well before seeing the great looking new machine at the NEC.
Great review, as ever TMF - I enjoy how you take each bike on its own merits. I've always loved Harleys, but there's never been one that could earn its place as the only bike in my garage - adopts Clarkson voice - until now... I got my FXFBS used a year ago and it is without a doubt my favourite bike out of ALL the bikes I've owned - including R1s, ZX6Rs, a Benelli Tornado, Speed Triples etc. I know it's not for everyone, but it is most definitely for me! I usually move a bike on after a couple of years, but this one is not leaving my side!
Good balanced review. Having owned a half dozen Harleys, I was just nodding along with all of your comments. Having owned several other bikes of many different brands, I have to shake my head when I read the negative comments about the brand. From a pure motorcycling point of view, the bikes are well made, extremely reliable and fun to ride. People with brand bias are missing out on good motorcycles.
Another fine video TMF! The Harley stole my heart a few years ago and i now have two in the man cave. I love my GS of course but your spot on when you say about how the Harley makes you feel when riding it. Great to drop in and watch the video mate.
I really do enjoy the perspective of the Harley from the other side of the pond. It's nice to see some positive comments as well as fair criticisms. The tastes, styling, and riding conditions obviously vary from one side of the Atlantic to the other. I grew up one generation too late, the English bikes had fallen way behind by the time I could ride them. I am very excited that Royal Enfield, BSA, and Norton are being talked about mainstream now. I am seeing more and more Royal Enfields here in New England, and that makes me smile. Thanks for the video.
You really should test a Harley touring bike, specifically a Road King Standard. A very different ride compared to any Softail model. I’d be interested in your opinions on one.
Chain drive is cheaper and more efficient on power transfer, I think that's the reason. But I rather have a belt just to forget about cleaning and lubbing the chain
Like the Video. Harleydavidson bike's they last for long time .some of my of my friends years ago had them ..i was at the stage of barry sheen and met him in a pub local to me and friends .he sat with all of us and his girl friend and ours too . We all 8 had Suzuki.s and 3 mates had harleys . Seeing the Video made me thing of good memories on bikes .lots of my friends see your videos .they are realy good down to Earth and honest .i do think some bikes are very expensive .and sad for some people who work hard .but there are some good bike's at the right price .
Hello, Andy! Nice one again! I saw only from the comments you have a new editing style and, hey, it's true. Have to say I really quite like it! And, given this is about a Harley, the comment section has been surprisingly civilised up to now.
I've enjoyed these Fat Bob reviews, I must say it's one of those Marmite bikes, and I fall into the 'Love it' camp, I currently own a 103 Dyna Streetbob, my third Harley, the Fat Bob or a new Fat Boy will be my next Harley.
Hi Andy, great review that is absolutely spot on. I own one of these and I must say that all you say is correct. Its about the way it makes you feel. I agree with the cons. The only other one that I would add is that when riding at the upper end of the speed (below 70 of course) as with all completely naked bikes, you tend to get blown backwards due to the wind resistance. Totally agree with the pros. Including the one about the chrome. I changed the exhaust on my one for some Vance and Hines that really helps the sound and in my opinion, the look. There is nowhere to put any bits and pieces that you may want to carry so you just have to have a ruck sack on your back or I have fitted an HD rack so I can attach a small bag- not cheap but does the job. As with all your reviews a very honest appraisal of the bike. Well done and keep up the good work!!!
Agree entirely, great sum up of the Fatbob, I have the last of the ducktail shape. It very makes you smile. Only big downside is that belt drive, you need to take the bike to bits to replace it, £1500 at a main dealer, who designed that! Otherwise great fun.
Hi Andy, very informative vid as usual. Never been a Harley fan having test ridden an 883 25 years ago on an open day. I was part of the power ranger brigade then riding a gsxr750 srad, but thought I’d have a go. Scary experience, very little braking ability, no handling and couldn’t get on with feet forward at all. Fast forward 25 years and I am older, maybe not wiser, currently chugging about on a Guzzi, but this fat bob has a certain appeal. I think it’s the colour scheme and understated looks… maybe I’ll have to book a test ride….thanks for posting.
Yup - got my first H-D in 1998, so I recognize the comments you make about the braking and handling back then. The recent models are nothing like as scary I assure you - book that test ride!
Nice vid & review & it is undoubtedly a cool bike but also a pricey one. If I had that much to spend on a bike, it wouldn't be this one. I'd go for the V2 Streetfighter & be a couple of grand better off I think.
@@TheMissendenFlyer Agreed. If you want one, you almost certainly wouldn't want the other.....unless you had multiple bikes. Do you know anyone with multiple bikes TMF? ; ) Will a hog being gracing the garage one day do you think?
7:45 Only disadvantage of the belt is when you upgrade it to stage 3 or 4 the Harley is putting down more power than the belt can handle, thus, you have to do a chain conversion which costs a heck of a lot. Also if you are unlucky enough to get a stone up in there the belt snaps
Finally someone said it, forget about the flaws, riding a Harley makes you feel good. You won't like that low reservoir so much if a stone hits it. Belt and pulleys will run you £1k to replace, that is a bit of a disadvantage as the one on my Sportster is on the way out, poop.
Never have a stone hit it and I ride on lots of rocky roads.The Sportster is a simple change of belt as it is on opposite side of primary housing. Anyone with a workshop manual can do thats it's a big twins with the belt driven behind primary housing, where you have to take that off you get to the belt that gets expensive but even then you could still do it yourself if you're not completely stupid.
@@TheMissendenFlyer and Low Rider S with a Stage 1 or 2. Surely there is one in England. In Brisbane, they had one with a 131ci stage IV you could test ride.
I love the follow camera shots. Good look! I'd love to see you on the KTM. SALT Aussie model 250 two stroke cafe racer. Its supposed to be a real screamer.
HD's are expensive and on a spec sheet can look poor value, but as soon as you sit on one and have a close look around it, in sheer raw materials and quality, you are getting lbs for pound, you are getting a lot more bike than some of the light weight, flimsy, plastic and stickers bikes out there. Sure , they have their own merits and each to their own, but to dismiss a HD on spec based value is to misses just how substantial they are, which I concede is a double edged sword.
Have to say that I've never been a HD fan. Always had a perception that they were crude, poorly built machine ridden by cavemen/women with a grudge. However! I've been watching your reviews and am changing my perspective entirely. I'm starting to get them. Also like the build quality and finish. Simplicity done really well has a lot to offer. Need to start saving-up!
Definitely try the Road King next. I bet you will love it. Even might love it so much you might sell the Goldwing and just not return the Road King.:D I LOVE mine!
Hey Andy mixed feelings on this one luv the engine really dislike the pipes but seems to be the case with most euro 5 pipes ( not all ) , The spark plug position is truly inspired I most certainly would hve a Harley but it would be an older pre euro 5 type plus there is always the fact that it's a bit cheaper and more traditional but then I am a dinosaur : D totally get the feeling you talk about though they are on the whole cool machines : ) cheers
Price is relative, depends what you are comparing it with, Maybe a Rocket 111 that starts at £20K. A BMW R18 starts at £17K. Quality is similar and the for most the Harley has the right badge for cruisers.
They seem really active these days considering you've declared them dead. Lots of new models and excellent quality. I've been hearing that HD is dead almost my entire life.
yeah your paying for the badge just like BMW. Was like looking at the r9t a while back and once you add all teh accessories that should really be on the bike (like the tach) it would cost like $5k more and Harley I feel is just the same. lol yeah get that you feel cool, but still cant get away the bad rep it has. never happen to me but i seen a Harley riders get abuse by drivers when lane filtering. I get it. loud pipes and they blip the throttle to them to say get the F** out of my way kinda thing and it always seem to be Harley riders. anway i did at one point on thinking of getting a fatbob, then i looked at the weight lol nice vid, thanks for uploading
It's not entirely belt driven. It has chains besides the engine that connects to the belt drive. I wonder if the chains required to be manually cleaned and lubricated or there is a lubrication mechanism (injector) inside
How did you even know it had a primary chain which runs from engine to gearbox through the clutch if you didn't know the chain runs in an oil bath with an automatic tensioner? When I change my oil it is a three-hole job which means engine, gearbox and primary oil.
@@jimmybe64 I've known about it on spec sheets. I just wondering about that because i am concerned about the maintenance routine of the bike. Among the Harley's, i like the fatbob.
I actually had a deposit down on a fat-boy, but cancelled it only because the Harley is great at being a Harley but a touch weaker at everything else, if that makes sense? If I had an excess of money (wouldn’t that be a thing…) I’d have one no hesitation at all. Nay sayers can have their own opinion, and the stigma doesn’t even begin to concern me. Keep up the great work, Andy. 👍👍
Fat Boy and Fat Bob are just one letter different, but they're worlds apart! With the FXFBS, HD finally made a do-everything, one bike in the garage machine. HUZZAH! (Yes, I bought one, lol)
The reason more manufacturers don’t use belts is myriad, not least because you lose a lot more power between crank and rear wheel than you do with chains, hence why MotoGP, WSB, etc. and sport bikes in general don’t use belts. I guess there’s an argument for a broader application than present for sure. But for HD it seems to suit the engine. Not my type of bike at all, but it’s two wheels and that’s always good.
I've seen a wide range of estimates for the power absorbed by a bike belt, up to 9% according to some. That would mean that if you are riding at 75 mph, with the engine producing about 20 HP, nearly 2 HP or about 1500 watts is being transferred to a rubber belt weighing only a few hundred grammes. I personally find that hard to believe, as it's the equivalent of heating the belt by stuffing it into a toaster. Of course, it will be somewhat cooled by air flow, but from an engineering point of view such a belt would be unsuited to the application.
Neither tbh - in the Softail range the only genuinely comfortable long haul machine is the Heritage imo (my previous bike was a Street Bob 114, I'm on a Street Glide Special now). If you're considering a H-D bike that has a great stripped back 'street' look but is capable of real world mile munching, take a Road King Special out for a test ride!
Nice looking bike, but as you said, a bit pricey. I much prefer the Indian Scout or the Scout Bobber, both better looking bikes, beautifully engineered and about £4000 cheaper. A great video as always TMF.
Belt drive really limits wheel travel, they aren’t nearly as forgiving of slack as a chain. Fat Bob only has 2 inches of travel, so belt drive is perfect. Pan America is about 7 1/2 inches… so a chain is used.
Personally I'm angry with you... my Guardsman... blah, blah, blah... now I've gone and bought one! Fair play but after three test rides, the only Harley I've liked has been the Livewire 😱
Its like you said , it's a good bike but more expensive than you expect. Also this is a wet country and like a lot of motorbikes nowadays the mudguards are nearly useless.
Good review, maybe on these cheaper, more basic models you could include a 'late night, flat battery, 50m of level car-park, run & bump start test'? Mind you, at over 900cc per jug, this one might just stretch it's belt a bit & then fling you back across the car park . . . but hey, at least it'll be lighter than one of their more expensive full-fat Wurlitzers. Have fun : )
Agree They cost too much. Because we all end up customizing them which cost even more money. Lol. Then we hot rod them with cams and maybe a big bore then maybe performance heads. Lol it never ends!!!! Haaaa
Don't think the brake res set at the front so low is good engineering, surely its going to get damaged and corrosion. Apart from that this is a lovely looking harley and as you say overall looks like a bike built by bikers. You could spanner on this machine yourself
the loud pipes save lives. you wear a full helmet and you can tell the difference but the cars around you hear you. not with those pipes it comes with. and that bar. lol come on now. they get past you door. but didnt planning on lifting the bike. lol
Great review as always, Andy!
Pros: no chrome to polish
Cons: no chrome to polish
That confused me too. I see it as a pro
Glad you spotted that....
Black > Chrome
Another honest review of the Harley Fat Bob, great to hear you being so positive about the build quality , the way it rides and how it made you feel, it's a breath of fresh air to hear a Brit bike vlogger talking so positively about a Harley, if they handed out medals for smiles per mile then H-D would be an Olympic gold medalist every time.
Couldn't agree more Ian...
I've got a 2010 Dyna Fatbob. Rode down from Stirling to the MotoGP this summer with a roll bag with my camping gear on the back. 7+ hour day no problem. One other plus, push rods, so no valve clearance service! I do like this one but for me you can't beat the Dynas, I've had 5!
Yep , I ride a 2017 fxdf 103 fat Bob , great bike 🤙😎👏
Many years ago as a young man I would have rather walked than rode on a Harley, but at the age of 64 I think I finally get them, not sure why with their strange quirks and mannerism's they sort of live and breath. You may think that strange thing to say, but that's' my take on Harley Davidson. Enjoyed your review also . Thank you..
Thank you for watching Stephen....
The only way to make a large air cooled V-Twin sound good is to have a single crank pin crankshaft which gives the Harley it's very unusual patented sound. No other engine except Indian and one or two Honda discontinued models have a single crank pin crankshaft. It's magical. Both pistons move as a pair connected to the same crank pin where both connecting rods move as a pair, on one crank pin. This gives the Harley the really unusual firing order which is uneven and not a perfect rhythm which is unlike any other motor.
The fit and finish is second to none ( solid metal parts unlike a lot of plastics on other bikes)… and the cool factor is exponential… it rides good too…
Agreed....
Never has a TH-cam video convinced me to at least give HD a second thought 👀 😂 Bravo sir 👏
Thanks for watching!
I love that you have incorporated Harleys into your repertoire. I don't own one but they are fun to ride.
Lovely bike! Hefty price but hey that’s Harley! I agree about the belt drive, wish more manufacturers used kevlar belts as they are arguably stronger & longer lasting than a chain. & essentially maintenance free!
One of my reason to stick with Harley-Davidson is belt drive
Agreed!
Nice video Andy. I'm on my sixth Harley-Davidson now, a 2021 Street Glide Special. I echo your advice to folks to take advantage of a test ride on a H-D. The range of bikes available is diverse and while it's undeniable that these are expensive machines to buy initially, that is in some way compensated by the very low rate of depreciation. So much of the negativity that we hear about these bikes, is often generated by folks who have never ridden a recent model. Sot try one - you might be pleasantly surprised!
6 HD’s in, that’s some commitment! I really want one at some point, feel like it’s a key part of the journey, to own one at some point… it was the brand that first got me interested in bikes! I find the second hand market really strong, from what I see there is a really high initial depreciation, then the value is really maintained well after that. I guess that depends on the local market, what’s your experience as a 6 time HD owner?
@@MoroMagrew - initial depreciation is no better or worse than any other vehicle, once it leaves the showroom, and currently is significantly lower than ever, due to the continuing supply chain issues for new vehicles. However, you are right that in the longer term, well looked after, dealer serviced, H-Ds hold their value better than any other brand.
The more I look the more I love it. Yes even the front head light. Nice one.
Same here!
Its actually quite a good looking bike, just not sure I could cope with feet forward. Nice to see the BSA T shirt and well before seeing the great looking new machine at the NEC.
Yes I've always liked the idea of having a BSA...and yes, if the Harley was mid pegged, I'd have one....
Never consider driving a car with my feet under me I always drive with forward just like I ride a Harley
@@jimmybe64 Unfortunately at 6ft 4" I do struggle to get comfortable in many cars
Great review, as ever TMF - I enjoy how you take each bike on its own merits.
I've always loved Harleys, but there's never been one that could earn its place as the only bike in my garage - adopts Clarkson voice - until now...
I got my FXFBS used a year ago and it is without a doubt my favourite bike out of ALL the bikes I've owned - including R1s, ZX6Rs, a Benelli Tornado, Speed Triples etc. I know it's not for everyone, but it is most definitely for me! I usually move a bike on after a couple of years, but this one is not leaving my side!
Nice one Steve!
Good balanced review. Having owned a half dozen Harleys, I was just nodding along with all of your comments.
Having owned several other bikes of many different brands, I have to shake my head when I read the negative comments about the brand. From a pure motorcycling point of view, the bikes are well made, extremely reliable and fun to ride. People with brand bias are missing out on good motorcycles.
So so customizable when you own a Harley . love that beautiful tank.
Perfect second bike for any garage!
Another fine video TMF! The Harley stole my heart a few years ago and i now have two in the man cave. I love my GS of course but your spot on when you say about how the Harley makes you feel when riding it. Great to drop in and watch the video mate.
Cheers as ever Beans!
Hope Harley UK let's you test some more. Very nice of them.
I hope so too!
I really do enjoy the perspective of the Harley from the other side of the pond. It's nice to see some positive comments as well as fair criticisms. The tastes, styling, and riding conditions obviously vary from one side of the Atlantic to the other. I grew up one generation too late, the English bikes had fallen way behind by the time I could ride them. I am very excited that Royal Enfield, BSA, and Norton are being talked about mainstream now. I am seeing more and more Royal Enfields here in New England, and that makes me smile. Thanks for the video.
My pleasure David - thanks for watching!
You really should test a Harley touring bike, specifically a Road King Standard. A very different ride compared to any Softail model. I’d be interested in your opinions on one.
Agree, i was at the motor expo here last week, keen eye on the HD range the road king really stood out to me.
I’d love a go!
My brother Robert is a few pounds too heavy, so I call him "fat Bob"....He doesn't appreciate it...
Chain drive is cheaper and more efficient on power transfer, I think that's the reason. But I rather have a belt just to forget about cleaning and lubbing the chain
Yes me too....
Great review Andy! A test drive is all it takes to fall in love with the HD character. Thats what made me buy my HD sportster
Like the Video. Harleydavidson bike's they last for long time .some of my of my friends years ago had them ..i was at the stage of barry sheen and met him in a pub local to me and friends .he sat with all of us and his girl friend and ours too .
We all 8 had Suzuki.s and 3 mates had harleys . Seeing the Video made me thing of good memories on bikes .lots of my friends see your videos .they are realy good down to Earth and honest .i do think some bikes are very expensive .and sad for some people who work hard .but there are some good bike's at the right price .
Thank you Mark - wow what an evening that must have been!
Thanks for the ride, and review. That is really a nice looking bike. It has a lot of design queues that appeal to me.
Me too Scott!
I like that you were wearing a BSA tee shirt, hope you can get a test ride on one when they’re available.
Me too!
Great review. After 43 years of riding and thinking Harley's were for other people...I really must get a overdue test ride on one.
Yes I was the same Gareth - gove one a go, I think you might find it fun!
Hello, Andy! Nice one again! I saw only from the comments you have a new editing style and, hey, it's true. Have to say I really quite like it!
And, given this is about a Harley, the comment section has been surprisingly civilised up to now.
Thanks! My comments sections are always civilised ;0)
@@TheMissendenFlyer Then you are certainly better off than Ryan.
Such a cool looking bike!
I've enjoyed these Fat Bob reviews, I must say it's one of those Marmite bikes, and I fall into the 'Love it' camp, I currently own a 103 Dyna Streetbob, my third Harley, the Fat Bob or a new Fat Boy will be my next Harley.
Great review, how did you do the camera shot from the front of the bike, looked good as though some one was in front of you.
Yes it's the insta 360 camera - clever little gadget eh?
Hi Andy, great review that is absolutely spot on. I own one of these and I must say that all you say is correct. Its about the way it makes you feel. I agree with the cons. The only other one that I would add is that when riding at the upper end of the speed (below 70 of course) as with all completely naked bikes, you tend to get blown backwards due to the wind resistance. Totally agree with the pros. Including the one about the chrome. I changed the exhaust on my one for some Vance and Hines that really helps the sound and in my opinion, the look. There is nowhere to put any bits and pieces that you may want to carry so you just have to have a ruck sack on your back or I have fitted an HD rack so I can attach a small bag- not cheap but does the job. As with all your reviews a very honest appraisal of the bike. Well done and keep up the good work!!!
Thank you for the kind words Peter - I'm glad we concur!
Are you going to do a review on the Pan America ?
As soon as Harley can get me one (will be next year now of course) yes, I hope so!
@@TheMissendenFlyer looking forward to that 👍.
...me too!
I could feel you genuinely liked that bike. A cruiser without chrome for me though is like a spitfire without duck egg blue underside.
Actually I prefer the black and white half and half.....
That is one cool bike, lot of money, 😎🇨🇦it’s ok just keep it longer
😎👍🏍🎥👊 as always another great video … hope to see a Pan America Special review soon..
I hope so too! ...will vbe later next year before I can get my hands on one alas....
Good review, No Harley Davidson fashion parade at the end! And thanks HD UK. TMF wearing a BSA t shirt.
Well spotted!
It's the lifestyle your buying into.
Here in the PNW they ride from bar to bar on their baggers .
I would quite fancy one if I lived out in the States. Not sure how cool I would feel riding around the mean streets of Swindon on one though!
That is a good point…
Hey - Swindon's a good deal meaner than rural Somerset and it ain't out of place down yere!
Agree entirely, great sum up of the Fatbob, I have the last of the ducktail shape. It very makes you smile. Only big downside is that belt drive, you need to take the bike to bits to replace it, £1500 at a main dealer, who designed that! Otherwise great fun.
Ouch!
Urggghhhh thats i want to have the motorcycle 🎉
Hi Andy, very informative vid as usual. Never been a Harley fan having test ridden an 883 25 years ago on an open day. I was part of the power ranger brigade then riding a gsxr750 srad, but thought I’d have a go. Scary experience, very little braking ability, no handling and couldn’t get on with feet forward at all. Fast forward 25 years and I am older, maybe not wiser, currently chugging about on a Guzzi, but this fat bob has a certain appeal. I think it’s the colour scheme and understated looks… maybe I’ll have to book a test ride….thanks for posting.
Yup - got my first H-D in 1998, so I recognize the comments you make about the braking and handling back then. The recent models are nothing like as scary I assure you - book that test ride!
Nice vid & review & it is undoubtedly a cool bike but also a pricey one. If I had that much to spend on a bike, it wouldn't be this one. I'd go for the V2 Streetfighter & be a couple of grand better off I think.
Yes, a completely different riding experience of course.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer Agreed. If you want one, you almost certainly wouldn't want the other.....unless you had multiple bikes. Do you know anyone with multiple bikes TMF? ; ) Will a hog being gracing the garage one day do you think?
@@ragerider6283 yeah if you can afford the Ducati services you are doing great.
It's very possible, lack of space is the only thing stopping me at present!
7:45 Only disadvantage of the belt is when you upgrade it to stage 3 or 4 the Harley is putting down more power than the belt can handle, thus, you have to do a chain conversion which costs a heck of a lot. Also if you are unlucky enough to get a stone up in there the belt snaps
EEk - that's a bummer!
Fair enough.
Harley seems to have come a long way over the last few years.
Love it, no chrome? sold!
Shame I suffer with my back, maybe a custom seat? Always fancied a HD as a 2nd tour bike maybe i missed my chance. Love the pipes.
Finally someone said it, forget about the flaws, riding a Harley makes you feel good. You won't like that low reservoir so much if a stone hits it. Belt and pulleys will run you £1k to replace, that is a bit of a disadvantage as the one on my Sportster is on the way out, poop.
….yikes
Never have a stone hit it and I ride on lots of rocky roads.The Sportster is a simple change of belt as it is on opposite side of primary housing. Anyone with a workshop manual can do thats it's a big twins with the belt driven behind primary housing, where you have to take that off you get to the belt that gets expensive but even then you could still do it yourself if you're not completely stupid.
Harley puts a massive grin on your face. And is it not what bike riding is about. Loved the vid.
Agreed 👍
🤓😎🏍💨💨💨💨💨💨👍🏻🇨🇦 different strokes for different folks. Doesn’t matter what you ride as long as you ride. 😎. Love the chrome myself,old school I guess.
You need to try the Sport Glide in the Spring 👍
I sure do!
@@TheMissendenFlyer and Low Rider S with a Stage 1 or 2. Surely there is one in England. In Brisbane, they had one with a 131ci stage IV you could test ride.
Good review👍
Ooh having to give it back, it';s enough to make you cry. If I had to give my Harley back it's because I'd be getting another one.
Complete agree .... so much so pick mine up in 9 day's time .....
Who is best for multiple bike insurance ?
I've yet to find anyone who genuinly provides multibike insurance alas.....
I love the follow camera shots. Good look!
I'd love to see you on the KTM. SALT Aussie model 250 two stroke cafe racer. Its supposed to be a real screamer.
That would be cool!
A good summing up and great work with the editing!! Never a bike for me as a child of the 50's I can't get away from the hell's angel imagery!!
Yes a shame that - as this one is a corker! ....and thanks!
Hi Andy, Great review on this HD, whats your thoughts on this being a first bike ?
Cheers.👍👌
Personally I think it's totally unsuitable - too heavy and powerful for a first bike....sorry if that's not what you wanted to hear!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Cheers Andy, My one and only HD Fat Bob.👍
Thanks for awesome videos appreciate it, dear sir, what is your top five most comfortable bikes for over one hour trips
Honda GoldWing….
HD's are expensive and on a spec sheet can look poor value, but as soon as you sit on one and have a close look around it, in sheer raw materials and quality, you are getting lbs for pound, you are getting a lot more bike than some of the light weight, flimsy, plastic and stickers bikes out there. Sure , they have their own merits and each to their own, but to dismiss a HD on spec based value is to misses just how substantial they are, which I concede is a double edged sword.
Have to say that I've never been a HD fan. Always had a perception that they were crude, poorly built machine ridden by cavemen/women with a grudge.
However! I've been watching your reviews and am changing my perspective entirely. I'm starting to get them. Also like the build quality and finish. Simplicity done really well has a lot to offer.
Need to start saving-up!
Give one a go Jamie - you might be surprised!
Caveman with a grudge? Sounds very much like me! So maybe you weren't that far off after all.
@@flhfd1703 😎🙌😃
Definitely try the Road King next. I bet you will love it. Even might love it so much you might sell the Goldwing and just not return the Road King.:D I LOVE mine!
Now that is far fetched!
@@TheMissendenFlyer haha never say never :D
Hey Andy mixed feelings on this one luv the engine really dislike the pipes but seems to be the case with most euro 5 pipes ( not all ) ,
The spark plug position is truly inspired I most certainly would hve a Harley but it would be an older pre euro 5 type plus there is always the fact that it's a bit cheaper and more traditional but then I am a dinosaur : D totally get the feeling you talk about though they are on the whole cool machines : ) cheers
Thanks for watching Crumbly!
Price is relative, depends what you are comparing it with, Maybe a Rocket 111 that starts at £20K. A BMW R18 starts at £17K. Quality is similar and the for most the Harley has the right badge for cruisers.
Harley's keep their second hand value quite good too.
Would like to see TMF's take on the Harley Pan America. It's something different than anything they've built before- did they pull it off?
I’m hoping to borrow one next year…stay tuned!
Damn, loving this bike a lot!
Me too - it's not a bad thing to like it!
@@TheMissendenFlyer But liking it could lead to buying it!
As an American I would much rather own a new BSA Goldie. HD is dead.
They seem really active these days considering you've declared them dead. Lots of new models and excellent quality. I've been hearing that HD is dead almost my entire life.
Where did you get the BSA tee shirt :-)
I can't rememebr - off the web somewhere!
yeah your paying for the badge just like BMW. Was like looking at the r9t a while back and once you add all teh accessories that should really be on the bike (like the tach) it would cost like $5k more and Harley I feel is just the same.
lol yeah get that you feel cool, but still cant get away the bad rep it has. never happen to me but i seen a Harley riders get abuse by drivers when lane filtering. I get it. loud pipes and they blip the throttle to them to say get the F** out of my way kinda thing and it always seem to be Harley riders.
anway i did at one point on thinking of getting a fatbob, then i looked at the weight lol
nice vid, thanks for uploading
Thanks for watching Randos!
It's not entirely belt driven. It has chains besides the engine that connects to the belt drive. I wonder if the chains required to be manually cleaned and lubricated or there is a lubrication mechanism (injector) inside
How did you even know it had a primary chain which runs from engine to gearbox through the clutch if you didn't know the chain runs in an oil bath with an automatic tensioner? When I change my oil it is a three-hole job which means engine, gearbox and primary oil.
I hadn't thought of that!
@@jimmybe64 I've known about it on spec sheets. I just wondering about that because i am concerned about the maintenance routine of the bike. Among the Harley's, i like the fatbob.
Can I kindly request a video on the new sportster s. With a comparison to the fatbob please 🙏
Yes - looking forward to riding one!
Looks like your leg is very close to yjat exhaust, does it get warm?
Surprisingly no!
I actually had a deposit down on a fat-boy, but cancelled it only because the Harley is great at being a Harley but a touch weaker at everything else, if that makes sense? If I had an excess of money (wouldn’t that be a thing…) I’d have one no hesitation at all. Nay sayers can have their own opinion, and the stigma doesn’t even begin to concern me. Keep up the great work, Andy. 👍👍
You will never know what you are missing then
@@jimmybe64 yep, good chance that’s the case. I had a heritage when I lived in the states so I’ve a fair idea though. 👍
@@headrace4863 maybe but new Softail with new suspension is totally so much better. 2018 onwards.
Fat Boy and Fat Bob are just one letter different, but they're worlds apart! With the FXFBS, HD finally made a do-everything, one bike in the garage machine. HUZZAH! (Yes, I bought one, lol)
Nice bike but I don't like the style or colour of the exhaust. I'll keep my 2001 Sportster 1200, Harleys are great fun to ride.🤩
Fair enough!
Which bike would you recommend for commuting? I prefer the Triumph platform
Street Twin....
Ha ha Love it , built by guys with spanners 👍👍👍👍
The reason more manufacturers don’t use belts is myriad, not least because you lose a lot more power between crank and rear wheel than you do with chains, hence why MotoGP, WSB, etc. and sport bikes in general don’t use belts. I guess there’s an argument for a broader application than present for sure.
But for HD it seems to suit the engine.
Not my type of bike at all, but it’s two wheels and that’s always good.
I've seen a wide range of estimates for the power absorbed by a bike belt, up to 9% according to some. That would mean that if you are riding at 75 mph, with the engine producing about 20 HP, nearly 2 HP or about 1500 watts is being transferred to a rubber belt weighing only a few hundred grammes. I personally find that hard to believe, as it's the equivalent of heating the belt by stuffing it into a toaster. Of course, it will be somewhat cooled by air flow, but from an engineering point of view such a belt would be unsuited to the application.
The Standard or the Slim for me!
Visually, I like the Fat Bob, but it seems that it's not as popular as the Fat Boy in the USA.
a more retro front light would have make it look better.
It makes you feel good, for an hour.
mate- that' sgood footage,=))
Thank you!
Which model would you think will be comfortable for longer ride- fat bob or the street bob
Neither tbh - in the Softail range the only genuinely comfortable long haul machine is the Heritage imo (my previous bike was a Street Bob 114, I'm on a Street Glide Special now). If you're considering a H-D bike that has a great stripped back 'street' look but is capable of real world mile munching, take a Road King Special out for a test ride!
@@grenmartens7420 thank you for your thoughts… cheers
"Bum trauma"
That's what she said!
Nice looking bike, but as you said, a bit pricey. I much prefer the Indian Scout or the Scout Bobber, both better looking bikes, beautifully engineered and about £4000 cheaper. A great video as always TMF.
Thank you Lee!
Belt drive really limits wheel travel, they aren’t nearly as forgiving of slack as a chain. Fat Bob only has 2 inches of travel, so belt drive is perfect. Pan America is about 7 1/2 inches… so a chain is used.
also more rocks, sticks, and mud off-road to break a belt
Personally I'm angry with you... my Guardsman... blah, blah, blah... now I've gone and bought one! Fair play but after three test rides, the only Harley I've liked has been the Livewire 😱
I hope you used my discount code!
@@TheMissendenFlyer they ran a show special but I dropped your name and the chaps were great!
Fair enough.....
If I had to have a Guardsman, I'd think about moving to a better neighbor.
South Buckinghamshire isn’t known for being that rough but fair enough….
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I always thought anyone who rides a harley wants everyone to know they are on a Harley...
Possibly, they are a bit shouty, but I love the show off factor.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer they are! nothing wrong with that.
Its like you said , it's a good bike but more expensive than you expect. Also this is a wet country and like a lot of motorbikes nowadays the mudguards are nearly useless.
Good review, maybe on these cheaper, more basic models you could include a 'late night, flat battery, 50m of level car-park, run & bump start test'? Mind you, at over 900cc per jug, this one might just stretch it's belt a bit & then fling you back across the car park . . . but hey, at least it'll be lighter than one of their more expensive full-fat Wurlitzers. Have fun : )
You really have the Harley sussed, you will soon own one…. Fat Bob it has to be…. I am of course biased
Agree They cost too much. Because we all end up customizing them which cost even more money. Lol. Then we hot rod them with cams and maybe a big bore then maybe performance heads. Lol it never ends!!!! Haaaa
Fun though eh?
@@TheMissendenFlyer Very true. I’m already thinking of what new bits are going on this winter.
You can get mid controls
Put me down for those!
Don't think the brake res set at the front so low is good engineering, surely its going to get damaged and corrosion. Apart from that this is a lovely looking harley and as you say overall looks like a bike built by bikers. You could spanner on this machine yourself
They really don't have any issues with the brake master cylinders being mounted forward. They have been there for decades.
@@davidknows3320 just don't ride when the roads are salted.
In the real world, It's a 17 grand coffee shop bike. Thanks, Andy.
Till you change the bars so you don't have to lean so far forward put bags and a rack on you could travel a lot of kilometres on it
the loud pipes save lives. you wear a full helmet and you can tell the difference but the cars around you hear you. not with those pipes it comes with. and that bar. lol come on now. they get past you door. but didnt planning on lifting the bike. lol
Is that a few Insta 360 shots in the vid. Mine is in the post as a Chrissie pressie to me.
It is indeed - brilliant camera.....
What’s the best bike you’ve ever ridden and what bike would be your number one favourite? Please don’t say all of them 😊
Thanks Andy 💕✌️
Best bike I've ever ridden - 2018 GoldWing, number one favourite - BMW R1200GS.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer I suspected you’d say BMW R1200GS Thanks 🙏👍🏼
@@TheMissendenFlyer Oh my. Re-evaluating credibility now... :D
Good for you, TMF - keep on in your own lane!
Where is the speedo
On the handlebars….