Follow Up On Clearing Your Hips: Pros Vs Ams
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2018
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This is a follow up video to this video: • Clearing The Hips In T...
Visually answering questions about the pros swing from that video including his pressure trace! If you haven't already seen that video, give it a watch for the right context to this one. - กีฬา
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This is absolutely AWESOME! So much can be learned from watching and listening to both of these CRUCIAL Golf videos! Thanks
Outstanding!!
If a picture is worth 1K words, this video and your others are a treasure.
Great 2-part series. Can you use this analysis to make one more? A few interesting observations. 1. Right knee stays inside right foot on backswing and left knee barely passes middle of left foot on downswing, 2. If a perpendicular line was drawn through the ball and intersecting the target line the center of the hip moves slightly beyond ball towards target at impact, 3. During “drift” the spine is moving laterally towards target. Regarding point 3, it would be interesting to see front facing and overhead views of this should movement using a triangular plane connecting the shoulder joints to the base of the spine / center of hip point. Please let me know your thoughts if possible. Thank you very much for such an informative series. Your team and technology are amazing!
Wow! This is the best holistic view I have ever seen of the swing. Able to see the relationship and timing of so many components to each other and to the ball. Thanks!
Appreciate you watching, Mark👍
Absolutely amazing set of videos...the ability to this really conveys the actions!
Thanks for all the content eye-opening!
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for the video! The skeleton and pressure together is incredible! You guys are as you say totally unique in the best way. Thanks again for the video.
thank you!
you guys have the best info and training out there... i'll look at visiting your shop for individual look. thanks!
Seeing that has really clarified the way the pressure builds in the backswing vs how it amost instantaneously swaps in transition. As you say in the video this combining of motion and force is incredibly powerful. You've changed my focus in practice from the technical to the athletic - the footwork, pressure and moving the hip and rib centres together - and the time and space dimensions you talked about in the previous video. Many thanks for this ground-breaking information.
Just wish I could use it!
Thanks buddy! You'll get it... start slowly at first to get the sequencing in tact👍
This is amazing. So scientific and intuitive. Thank you
Fantastic Video! Love the over-top view, it really helps!!
this is great stuff and you have an awesome channel. what amazes me about this is golf is and always has been the most studied and analyzed sport. i have a really good golf book collection from the pre computer era and they go way back and one i think could be maybe one of the first. so i guess it shows how difficult it is to be proficient at this and nothing about golf is instinctive and really has to be learned and practiced.
Thank you AMG for sharing such wisdom!!!!! You guys are the best golf channel YT!!!!
Wow! Thanks brother🙏
Mike, you continue to impress me with your ability to combine technologies and give us unique views on the golf swing. You are exactly right, just watching this view is unbelievably helpful to golfers (and teachers.). Keep up the great work and keep asking why.
Thank, Eric! Is there anything we try to make for you or your players?
I'm always looking for successful "outliers" and what matchups make them successful. I love moving my students toward "optimal" or "efficient" but i am reluctant to build a model. Jack Lumpkin taught me that changing things is easy, the secret is what to leave alone.
Another great and informative video Mike. Don't know who the pro' is but he has a really 'clean' pressure trace back and forth (Luke List?) As someone earlier commented, it's amazing how early the 'transition' weight shift is compared to most Am's. I tried this and the 'stretch' I felt across my mid- back especially was akin to feeling like powerful rubber bands were being stretched. The result was truly effortless power and adding easily one club distance to all my clubs. Three other thing I noticed, I felt better balanced throughout, I felt like I had so much more time (through early posting on the front leg) and my ball striking (pure shots) increased significantly. Great job Mike.
Amazing technology. Absolutely fantastic.
This is like way ahead of its time.
Well done! To me, combining the foot pressure map and the 3D model have conveyed the timing of the weight transfer better than any other video. That's saying a lot considering how much I've learned from all your other videos. I hope to see this combination more going forward.
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I’m amazed at how early the shift to the left happens. This is "the fix" for so many juniors that I coach.
Never realized how early the weight transfers to front foot .. much earlier than I expected and the slight shift/drift to front foot to start the downswing or at finish of backswing.
I like the way your combination of technologies shows the right knee moving to a position inside the right ankle and directly over the end of the pressure trace at the top of the back swing with the left hip over the forward pressure trace. At the same time, the left hip then can be seen to lead the forward track of the forward pressure trace in the late stages of the transition and the beginning of the downswing. Along with your analysis of the correct hip and left knee movements this has helped my pivot concept tremendously. I was doing exactly what the Am was doing - shifting the right knee to a position over the arch of my right foot at the top. So, I had no hope of getting my left hip on the right track in the downswing. Maybe you could do another one of your illuminating PvA bones videos on the left and right knee movements at some stage.
Yessir, good idea👍
This is some good juice. Thanks for sharing Mike and Shaun.
Thanks brother! This juice is worth the squeeze😊
Athletic Motion Golf I try and squeeze some ever day. Your content is magic and how you create these images is brilliant.
Most impressive video ever! Thank you for your elaborate work. You are making our joy of golf much greater!
By the way, I wish you to make videos to check our own hip movement on camera to make sure we are doing correct .
I would be happy if you make videos using aliment stick on the front belt loop or rear butt view on camera.
Thanks buddy!
Can you send us a quick video (support@athleticmotiongolf.com) of what you're talking about with the alignment sticks to make sure we're on the same page?
Great stuff...Best in the business!!!
Thanks!!!
Great channel, unique insights!!!
Thanks for checking us out🙏
Great technology and excellent video. Keep it coming AMG. Is there a way to show what the center of pelvis is doing up and down to show when the squat happens in the swing relative to what is shown here?
Yessir, we do get those numbers. Here's a video we did with on the driver swing talking about that: th-cam.com/video/LC-XmVbI6UA/w-d-xo.html
Great vedio, it give us lot of answer in low body movements
Great Video! Awesome! Watch at position left arm parallel the shaft is still almost parallel to the lower right arm.
Perfect timing AMG. About to start my lunch break and this will be my entertainment while I eat my spicy chicken from wendys
Jealous😊
Wanted to let u know it was seeing the wrists from the top view on this video that made this swing click for me. The way I was holding the club had something to do with feeling like I was being "jammed" w an inside fastball when i tried to make this swing. Lol.
Now I'm getting my rt elbow tucked better into my ribs and clearing my hips first feels comfortable on the down swing.
wow. that bottom view with the pressure map is insanely intuitive and makes things easier. i've been watching your members stuff and wondered... are you guys intending to add in gears stuff like this with pressure and angles for side lie shots and also for bunker shots? would be really good to clarify what goes on in those instances besides the typical flat lies. thanks again!!
We'd love to do that, Benson, but as of September 2018, the tech to measure these things from those lies isn't available yet. When it is, we'll share it!😉
Really like the addition of the pressure/cg trace. Really helps to fill out the picture, and is probably really good for guys who learn better by recreating feels, but don’t know what they’re supposed to be feeling. Interesting thing to note is that while the player floats left early in the transition, the pressure stays in the right foot.
We're planning on adding more traces to future videos👍
Athletic Motion Golf that’s great! I think it could also be helpful, if it’s possible, to see those traces moving at full speed to give a sense of the timing of the pressure shifts in real time.
Good stuff. Thanks for posting this!
Superb - thank you!
what can I say? Just amazing technology to clarify concepts, whether these concepts are backed by hard data/technology or not. I have heard many theories and concepts and I wonder what they said were really what were happening. Thank you.
I am not sure if you have tackle this issue? Will you please show the tracing of the hands and the point of release. Is it just behind the trail hip in the downswing or farther down the downswing? Thank you.
that below view is unreal!!! you can really see the top of the back swing "pro" fall move
These two views are great for seeing certain things really clearly.
Great Video combination. Another aspect that I was wondering about is the horizontal force vectors particularly in the initial segment of the back swing. Could these also be overlaid on the foot pressure and bones features of this swing. If applicable, this would give a better impression as to how of the foot pressures are actually directed in attempting to create the correct turning movement of the hips and pelvis at the beginning of the back swing. This is my biggest struggle. I can move the club back correctly on plane to the first parallel position, but I am quite sure my hips are following a very amateur path as I do so!
We don't currently have force vectors, but that will most likely change in the not to distant future.
I've watched both videos and tried "shadow boxing" the hip movements as described. I went to the range and felt somewhat successful with the move and I noticed a significant increase in distance. My errors were2-fold. When I pulled left hip back, the error was what felt like a left hip spin out and a pulled shot and when I tried to limit the left hip, the result was usually a weak push fade. What I was trying to do was keep my hips between my feet during the swing. Tomorrow I want try to let the left hip slide more over to very slightly ahead of the left foot as the hip keeps turning back over and past the left heel. I think that move will delay the chest and arms so that I don't throw the club to the left. What do you think about correction?
Fantastic.
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Thanks this is great. This is a pillar of the swing I need to achieve. Is there anything specific to the hip movement especially restricting the left hip out movement and right hip back in the all access ? I haven't run across this that I recall.
Thanks again
If you're turning correctly, I don't think you'll ever have to try to restrict either hip movement.
Great video. As I'm working on the drift towards front foot (or skiing downhill), I need to blend the rotation with the left bend into right bend. Should I think of slight right bend at impact (matching the hip rotation) with square shoulders?
Yes, there's some right bend at impact, but don't shoot for square shoulders... try to get them a bit open👍
Awesome…this helped me feel less mechanical through backswing and to initiate downswing. Can you share what iron was used? Noticed ball placement was forward.
7iron i believe
Its great to see how his heel is actually still down at impact. When are you guys going to open up iLessons again? I can't figure out which drills I would benefit from most to stop my right heel from raising even prior to left arm parallel in my downswing.
Have you gone through the Weight & Pressure series yet?
Nope. Looks like that’s my Sunday morning!
Great stuff guys. Just wondering I noticed at the top of the swing the left arm is very close to parallel with the target line. Is this common amongst pros?
Pretty common around left arm parallel in the backswing and shaft parallel in the downswing.
What is the moving small circle between both foot? Center of gravity ?
A lot of the focus is on the body, moving it more athletically, the manner in which it moves and you provide great drills and sometimes just the insight into what to do to make transformative changes. Which is great.
However, if you feel you have lost your sense of feel for ‘swinging the club’, i.e. a sense that you feel it in your hands and arms, how do you get it back? How important in your opinion, is it to get it back? Should ‘swinging the club’ be a primary feel that trumps ‘feeling the body’? Or should how the ‘body feel’ be primary?
Thanks
Both need to move well enough to hit the shots you want to play, BUT both don't typically need to be thought about. Feeling the club is pretty important. If that's lost, it would be a good idea to get it back. It's an interesting question because there isn't one right way (body feel or club feel) for all golfers. It's really player dependent as to which you should focus on, but I'm having a hard time thinking of a good player who doesn't have a feel for what the club is doing.
I notice in the transition from backswing to downswing, he is shifting his weight to his front foot/ towards the target while his back is still facing the target. Is this a good swing thought to have? I’m a low handicap player who struggles w/ early extension and sometimes the shanks. Now that I have seen these two videos, this seems very different than what I do. I feel like as I complete my backswing I try to shift my weight to the front foot but I also immediately begin to rotate my hips. I feel like this rotation is bringing me closer the ball and I am losing that space that you talk about. Maybe keeping my back toward the target longer would help? Thanks! Very cool videos!
I think you're on the right track, MG. Really work on the sequencing of those moves. Once that's in place, the rotation away from the ball will happen for you much easier and "naturally."
Awesome. What club was being swung here? Didn't hear it in the video but might have missed it!
Sorry, we didn't mention it on this one... 7iron
Thanks! You guys rock. Always geeking out on the software and how it improves to show the concepts.
Can you speak about the difference between tour players that seemily have no slide towards the target and the hip turn you are showing and the pros and cons of each? I love your videos. Thanks
Thanks, buddy🙏
Can you give us an example of a player with no slide?
Upon further review... cant seem to find any pro non slide swings. I was thinking about the GG hip turn approach. The closest thing i see is Jamie Ruiz
Not familiar with his swing.
Ie. George Gangas. Looks like no slide but probably is anyway
A pair of classic videos. I believe that you stress that the hips pivot up a bit as they turn back (Left on backswing, right on downswing). Do you have a horizontal GEERS view that shows this in synchronization with the top view and/or pressure trace?
Can u explain what you mean by “pivot up” so I can best answer your question? 🤓
@@AthleticMotionGolf Many of golfers think of the hips pivoting on a horizontal plane (around the right hip or, as you show using GEERS, around the spine in better players). I believe that AMG made the point that the right hip turns back and a few degrees above the horizontal plane (more on a plane perpendicular to the spine). Same for the left hip leading up to and after impact, I understand. It would be interesting to see how much above the horizontal plane they move among pros vs ams, if I am correct. If I am not correct, it would also be interesting to know what I misunderstood somewhere.
@@robrichards7983 gottcha, thanks for the explanation. It sounds like you've got it all correct. I would add that the trail side of the pelvis only goes up a small amount, it's more about the lead side lowering. Both (lead rising, trail lowering) happen through impact.
@@robrichards7983 this is correct :)
So maybe it’s not relevant to discuss where the pressure points are in the feet to make the point of clearing the hips, but I’d like to know if is relevant and why. What I am referring to is where the majority of the player’s weight is on the backswing and where it is on the downswing. It appears to be mostly on the balls of the feet at address, with emphasis on the insides of the feet in the backswing and downswing. If this is true I’m wondering if that is not a key to good balance and weight shift on the backswing, and balance and pivoting on the downswing. Maybe you have another video on this subject?
I want you to know its not lost on me what you are doing. Great work. Im having a hard time understanding something i hear often, which is the arms during the swing lift and don’t cross the body. Maybe the language used isn’t clear because the arms are crossing the body as you can see here. Are you familiar with the concept that the arms lift and dont cross the body. I cant wrap my mind around it. This is exactly the type of issue i have always had with golf instructors. What to keep and what to dismiss
The best coaching i have ever had and only really effective coaching i ever had. Comes from an old teaching pro( whos son won 4 times on tour). He teaches in generalized theory, like aim left it right. Game of opposits. Open the face to hit a draw, close it to fade the ball.
AMG have done a video on this exact topic. I think it's one of their Swing Myth series. The myth being that the hands stay in front of the chest, ie not moving across the body (to use your term). The video shows that the arms move both up and across. You can have too much or too little of either, but you have have to do both.
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Another great video. So it looks like the pressure shift is mostly focused on the left heel in the downswing (at least in the beginning)? That's why it looks like this golfer "lifts" his left heel off the ground, then slams it back down to start the pressure sift and downswing?
Very good and important observation😉
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With this kind of content, you should have at least 500k subscribers. Not 27k
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