Idk if this is video worthy, but my coworker and I were talking about ut today, Martin St Louis' mothers day goal against the penguins in the 2014 playoffs. In my book it will forever go down as one of the best goals in nhl history, not because of the goal itself, but what it meant to Marty, the team and the city of New York
I remember that growing up in Pittsburgh, was awesome to see. Also Sid going over to personally give his condolences before the game. Beautiful hockey all around 🤝
I love how torts never sugar coats anything and just gets straight to the point. Wish my wings hired him especially after what he did with philly last season.
“Never to win anything” I mean I know there is a group of people that think the Stanley Cup is the only trophy available to win, but Joe literally had a Hart and Art Ross trophy at this point. Based on the percentage of players who win those trophies, that is hardly “not winning anything”.
I think one of the ugliest, most masochistic events in NHL history had to be the Canucks bringing in Mark Messier, then Mike Keenan. These were the guys that beat the Canucks in a heartbreaking game 7 loss. Then Mark Messier takes the captaincy away from Trevor Linden, a Canuck legend and all around amazing guy. Then Messier refuses to change his number and takes the unofficially retired number 11. I swear, it was like if someone wanted to rub molten salt in the wound of a Canucks fan, I don't think you could have done a better job. What a horrible, ugly, stupid set of circumstances... Bordering on cruel and unusual. And Messier never won sh$t with the Canucks, pure money grab of a player way past his prime. Insanity.
People tend to forget that only one out of 32 teams wins every year. That being said Thornton was on the wrong side of an almost uncountable number of playoff collapses so Torts was kind of right to call him out here.
@@politicalbandwagon4989San Jose back in those days, we might as well call them the greatest chokers of all time. By those days, I mean the great teams they had and come playoffs always find a way to embarrass themselves.
Whats interesting he said what he said for a few reasons. 1, it would absoluty put some stress on Joe the next game. 2, he gets his boys going by being a guy that will talk to shit to defend his players. 3, He just said what ever one was thinking lol
Life long Bruin fan here...I was happy when the B's shipped him out !!! Regular season machine and very EXPENSIVE slouch post season 😢 Toronto should reflect and learn from this 🤷♂️
Yeah I remember this. From a Sharks perspective it was clear he meant it as in it was unacceptable to their team. They Rags weren't a great team at the time, Sharks were going through a bit of a rough patch at that point of the year iirc, and it was more of a message to the SHarks that they can't be losing those games than a dig at the Rnagers. Remember this is the Jumbo who got into a public beef with GM Doug Wilson and then they patched it up like a day later. He's a candid and passionate guy and sometimes had some one liners that most people would think "I probably shouldn't have said that", but he really didn't give a shit lol he moved past it the second after he said it
It's ironic that Tortorella often talks tough while crying. Why do we use "he never won anything" as a mark against a player? It's a team sport. It's not Joe Thornton's failings alone that lead to him never winning a Stanley Cup.
not that I have any ill-will toward the blackhawks, kings and pens but with 8 cups in 9 years between them I really wish that the Rangers and Sharks could've beat them. it's a shame.
Give my boy Dan Girardi some love, he was as “Tortorella” as it got when they were together with NYR IIRC he retired as the leagues all-time shot block leader, may or may not be surpassed by now. Lots of old Girardi fighting videos, big hits, taking big hits There were a lot more “brand name” guys on that era of Rangers teams, but I’m not sure any tougher than Girardi
You should cover how the Detroit Red Wings were playoff constants and then they moved to Little Caesars and they've missed the playoffs for the past 8 seasons. I reckon moving the eastern conference a few years prior didnt help much
This last one was first decent year in their own house ....lol Been cheering REDWINGS since 76 so already seen "the Good, the Bad and the Ugly" .... lol
@@jakewhitmore6046 possibly! I grew up thinking Nova Scotia was actually in New York so idk maybe it was some disinformation from the 1990s or something
Marian Hossa losing with the Pens vs the Wings in the Cup Finals -> signing with Detroit -> losing with the Wings vs the Pens in the Cup Finals the very next season -> everyone believing he was legitimately cursed. What a player wish he got talked about more.
The story Bieksa told on HNIC this year about hiding the game puck from young Tkachuk, only to give in and hand it to Stajan, is a cool little story. And a look at a kinda "deep hockey" tradition/meta that not everyone knows about.
As a flames fan when the conversation about past events comes up the real killer was 2004 when we lost to Tampa in game 7. Would be interesting to see your thoughts on the play and give a bit of a breakdown for the series. Love the channel!
I mean, the smurfs have always been known to be soft, and with good reason. The only semblance of toughness they ever had was when they brought in that cheap shot artist Messier. That guy just loved throwing blind side elbows
Is that why he wasn't named to the NHL 100? Did he piss off too many people with those remarks? I couldn't believe they voted for Mats Sundin over him. Sundin's a great player, but Thornton had already passed Sundin in career points by 2018 plus Sundin never was 1st team All Star or a Hart Trophy winner or got to a Cup Final
buff vs kane is a beef i remember fondly. or just a video about byfuglien in general. once in a century player. no should have his size, skill, grace and dominating physical traits EVER, but he did
Sooo, the Rangers didn't win anything, Thornton didn't win anything, and Tortorella has a cup, in 2004. Hate to say it, but he was right. Which is a shame, because I like Joe more than I like Torts, but hey. It's part of the fun in the NHL.
i mean saying he hasn't won anything is a stretch cause while he never won a cup he did win lotta other things but at the same time calling the rangers soft is the most ridiculous thing one could ever say especially in the early 2010s when torts was calling the shots. Ofc in the mid 2010s and late 2010s when vigenault was calling the shots they were still very blue collar and hardcore but the early 2010s when they had torts and calling them soft is the most insane take ever
Why are the New York Rangers constantly putting world-class goalies in position to make endless strings of impossible saves? It's almost like the skaters think they're being paid to reenact the surrender of New Amsterdam in 1664...especially whenever they play teams in red...
I am a Sharks fan and I love Joe, but he's not getting in the hall because like Tortorella said, he never won dickety shit. Individual awards mean nothing without a ring.
I see you're going for one of the worst takes ever. I would be shocked if he isn't a first ballot hall of famer, but I can't imagine any scenario where he doesn't make it at all. Even fans of rival teams who hate him know he's going to the hall. The cup is a team award and if you don't have the depth, goaltending, or luck (injuries/bounces) to win it doesn't mean you shouldn't be in the hall. Individually, he's one of the top playmakers of all time, number 7 in assists, number 14 in points, Hart, Art Ross, 3 additional top five finishes for Hart, 2 more top 10, a top 5 Selke finish, won a Spengler Cup, Swiss Ice Hockey Championship, World Junior Championship, World Cup of Hockey twice, and Olympics.
In a podcast, they asked Ian White what it was like playing with Joe Thornton in San Jose and all he had to say was that Jumbo Joe would yell on the bench to give him the fuckin puck if he didn’t touch it enough.
There's a reason I loved calling him "Homeless Joe" Dude liked to pop off at the mouth and always bitched about "I deserve a Cup" Wonder how THAT went lmao
The more I reflect on your content of the past, and the more I observe it recently, the more I realize you are focused way too much on being angry over nothing and making sure your entire fanbase knows it. I'm unsubbing from your channels for it. For the two cents it's worth, I recognize that I'm just one rando on the Internet, so I know my leaving will likely not mean a thing to you, which is fine. I only say all of this so you might have a chance to see what you could do better. Good luck to you.
I’ve already unsubbed for the ridiculous video titles. They are so emotionally stupid. It’s like Eck watched a bunch of those “HOW TO GENERATE CLICKS ON TH-cam “videos and followed all of them. Eck you just need to add more red circles to your content 😂
sorry Hank was overrated. I love Hank, he was a good goalie, he's a great ambassador for the Rangers and hockey, he's good looking and a great dresser--but he choked a lot. I remember in particular him choking in the crucial shootout against Philly which got Philly in the playoffs.
I still say,if he had a better team in front of him,if he had spent his career in Pittsburgh or Chicago instead of New York,he wouldn't have stopped winning Stanley Cups
"Joe hasn't won a goddamn thing in this league...so what he should do is just shut up" lmao
Yeah, if he wasn't going to win anything he really was meant to be a ranger
@@Rockman_Halo you're a dallas fan....XD
@@igorshesterkin1224 I must have missed the rangers being in a cup final in the last decade, mb mb
your soft ass was NOT alive for 1993 LOL
@@Rockman_Halo 1, the rangers HAVE been in the finals in the last decade. 2, it was 1994, not 1993. You dont know shit about hockey and it shows.
@@Rockman_Halo I mean. The Rangers were in the cup final in 2014 so its close lol
"That Rangers core never won a cup" can be said about nearlyyyyy every Rangers core
A lot of truth in that statement.
Rangers,Two,that is 2,I mean two,did you hear two!Yes you stal wart rangers fans,2 Stanley cups in 100 hundred years!Wow,what a chunk of Losers!
For a tough guy sport, these guys are surprisingly sensitive.
Tortorello would find something to complain about if his grandmother brought him fresh baked cookies and a glass of milk.
Oh dang that sounds good
Idk if this is video worthy, but my coworker and I were talking about ut today, Martin St Louis' mothers day goal against the penguins in the 2014 playoffs. In my book it will forever go down as one of the best goals in nhl history, not because of the goal itself, but what it meant to Marty, the team and the city of New York
I remember that growing up in Pittsburgh, was awesome to see. Also Sid going over to personally give his condolences before the game. Beautiful hockey all around 🤝
What does that have to do with this video?! Lol
Good one, maybe I will do that next!
Just wish they would have won the cup that year
You got your wish!!
I love how torts never sugar coats anything and just gets straight to the point. Wish my wings hired him especially after what he did with philly last season.
Hells yeah !! Go WINGS
Wish the Wings cared about defense because their going backwards next year with their D core anchoring them for a 7th or 8th place finish
1:49 didn’t know the sharks were an Eastern team
Didn’t know St Louis was in the east too
@@Brandon4916this game was about 7 months before the 2012 Eastern Conference Finals
@@Brandon4916this game was about 7 months before the 2012 Eastern Conference Finals
@@Brandon4916 he said "the sharks would also get into the playoffs as the 7th seed in the east"
With that title, I thought for SURE this would be a Disney Star Wars critique.
“Never to win anything” I mean I know there is a group of people that think the Stanley Cup is the only trophy available to win, but Joe literally had a Hart and Art Ross trophy at this point. Based on the percentage of players who win those trophies, that is hardly “not winning anything”.
He won nothing
If you’re an NHL player especially a Canadian one not winning the Cup is like not winning anything
@@glenranger6346 I mean a gold medal is something lol
@@IcyColdBeveridge no
@@glenranger6346 Ah, I was wondering why I didn't see you at the Olympic tryouts.
I think one of the ugliest, most masochistic events in NHL history had to be the Canucks bringing in Mark Messier, then Mike Keenan. These were the guys that beat the Canucks in a heartbreaking game 7 loss. Then Mark Messier takes the captaincy away from Trevor Linden, a Canuck legend and all around amazing guy. Then Messier refuses to change his number and takes the unofficially retired number 11. I swear, it was like if someone wanted to rub molten salt in the wound of a Canucks fan, I don't think you could have done a better job. What a horrible, ugly, stupid set of circumstances... Bordering on cruel and unusual. And Messier never won sh$t with the Canucks, pure money grab of a player way past his prime. Insanity.
Tortorello Never disappoints
No Mr. Tortellini definitely doesn't
Gotta love Coach Tortoise.
I mean he won a hart and an art Ross I dont think the Stanley cup is the only thing that you can win
Also Gold in World Juniors, World Cup (2x), and Olympics! Not too shabby.
Nobody grows up dreaming of winning the Hart or Art Ross in game 7.
People tend to forget that only one out of 32 teams wins every year. That being said Thornton was on the wrong side of an almost uncountable number of playoff collapses so Torts was kind of right to call him out here.
Ya, it would be like saying Pat Maroon is better just because he has more cups 🤦♂️
@@politicalbandwagon4989San Jose back in those days, we might as well call them the greatest chokers of all time. By those days, I mean the great teams they had and come playoffs always find a way to embarrass themselves.
The Muzzin-Tkachuk puck flip would be a fun watch from the both of you!
one of many Classic Torts Comments he gave us over the years lol
Hank carried those teams.
Best quote by torts
Whats interesting he said what he said for a few reasons. 1, it would absoluty put some stress on Joe the next game. 2, he gets his boys going by being a guy that will talk to shit to defend his players. 3, He just said what ever one was thinking lol
Its actually insane that that core didn't win a cup. Being a Rangers fan is painful lol
For some reason the gods of hockey do not smile on that team. A lot of close, but no cigars. 94, thanks to Sather and the Oilers.
Life long Bruin fan here...I was happy when the B's shipped him out !!! Regular season machine and very EXPENSIVE slouch post season 😢 Toronto should reflect and learn from this 🤷♂️
Yeah I remember this. From a Sharks perspective it was clear he meant it as in it was unacceptable to their team. They Rags weren't a great team at the time, Sharks were going through a bit of a rough patch at that point of the year iirc, and it was more of a message to the SHarks that they can't be losing those games than a dig at the Rnagers.
Remember this is the Jumbo who got into a public beef with GM Doug Wilson and then they patched it up like a day later. He's a candid and passionate guy and sometimes had some one liners that most people would think "I probably shouldn't have said that", but he really didn't give a shit lol he moved past it the second after he said it
It's ironic that Tortorella often talks tough while crying. Why do we use "he never won anything" as a mark against a player? It's a team sport. It's not Joe Thornton's failings alone that lead to him never winning a Stanley Cup.
Wish it could’ve just ended with both the Rangers and Sharks winning a Cup over the next few seasons and everyone lived happily ever after. Sigh.
I lived happily ever after with the next few season cup wins 😌
not that I have any ill-will toward the blackhawks, kings and pens but with 8 cups in 9 years between them I really wish that the Rangers and Sharks could've beat them. it's a shame.
ngl I expected Torts to go ballistic. "Soft? SOFT?!?!? I'm rock hard right now. I'll show you who's soft!"
Give my boy Dan Girardi some love, he was as “Tortorella” as it got when they were together with NYR
IIRC he retired as the leagues all-time shot block leader, may or may not be surpassed by now.
Lots of old Girardi fighting videos, big hits, taking big hits
There were a lot more “brand name” guys on that era of Rangers teams, but I’m not sure any tougher than Girardi
Torts comments aged so nicely
You should cover how the Detroit Red Wings were playoff constants and then they moved to Little Caesars and they've missed the playoffs for the past 8 seasons. I reckon moving the eastern conference a few years prior didnt help much
This last one was first decent year in their own house ....lol Been cheering REDWINGS since 76 so already seen "the Good, the Bad and the Ugly" .... lol
Jeez dude, holding onto some baggage aren’t you. We’ve all been hurt before, it’s just words, let it go.
I love the off season content, great stuff man
bro is one of the few rangers fans in nova scotia, respect.(from an oilers fan from nova scotia)
I’m shocked cause it’s only a few feet away from New York
@@QueensNewYorkguy more like 840 mi
@@QueensNewYorkguyI think you’re thinking about southern Ontario 😂
@@jakewhitmore6046 possibly! I grew up thinking Nova Scotia was actually in New York so idk maybe it was some disinformation from the 1990s or something
Plz plz cover Lemieux's '93 comeback from Hodgkins Lymphoma to lead the Pens to the president's trophy and the Art Ross!!!
Marian Hossa losing with the Pens vs the Wings in the Cup Finals -> signing with Detroit -> losing with the Wings vs the Pens in the Cup Finals the very next season -> everyone believing he was legitimately cursed.
What a player wish he got talked about more.
i really love marian hossa at that time
Goddamn, thinking about how much tougher that team was compared to the 2024 Rangers
The story Bieksa told on HNIC this year about hiding the game puck from young Tkachuk, only to give in and hand it to Stajan, is a cool little story. And a look at a kinda "deep hockey" tradition/meta that not everyone knows about.
Jumbo Joe was a villain in 2011. Never forget when he slid on our center ice after eliminating my Kings that playoff.
I have the Jumbo Slide as my profile pic on a few sites.
@@jonmendelson1104 And I got that disbelief Joe from being reversed swept in 2014 saved in my memes folder 😇
As a flames fan when the conversation about past events comes up the real killer was 2004 when we lost to Tampa in game 7. Would be interesting to see your thoughts on the play and give a bit of a breakdown for the series. Love the channel!
Calling a John Tortorella-coached team soft is wild. I know his teams aren't soft as a longtime Lightning fan.
"Honestly this guy is honestly embarrassing". Surprised that wasn't the title...
2011 Bruins ironically
We didn't know at the time but we were witnessing the Battle of Mid
That was quite the reTortorella
I mean, the smurfs have always been known to be soft, and with good reason. The only semblance of toughness they ever had was when they brought in that cheap shot artist Messier. That guy just loved throwing blind side elbows
He may have been a Shark at that moment, but he definitely was channeling his inner Bruin there…
Once a Bruin,always a Bruin,but yeah,he forgot that they gave up on him
I play beer league with Prust now. He's got great hockey sense. I should ask him about playing for Torts.
Interesting. Didn't know SJ and St Louis were in the East back then
They wish they were. Maybe then,they'd get some attention
Even as a Devils fan, I feel sad that Lundqvist never got to hoist the cup.
I hated Thornton since the hit on Perron in 2010. Low key a dirty player everyone forgets about.
Too bad Jumbo never scored 4 goals in a game. That would be heck of a show
please cover the Wings-Aves rivalry from the 90’s
Is that why he wasn't named to the NHL 100? Did he piss off too many people with those remarks? I couldn't believe they voted for Mats Sundin over him. Sundin's a great player, but Thornton had already passed Sundin in career points by 2018 plus Sundin never was 1st team All Star or a Hart Trophy winner or got to a Cup Final
That entire list was BS, Malkin wasnt in the top 100 aswell, i get there are alot of names but Malkin? come on, he was like Jagr to Lemiux for Crosby
I find it Hilarious player legacies are measured in Team efforts/accomplishments.
gonna be some very fun rangers/devils games this next season
Torts wasn't wrong. He's one of my fav coaches ever. Richards, Lecavalier, St. Louis was one of the best.
This entire response to getting called soft is, in and of itself, soft
buff vs kane is a beef i remember fondly. or just a video about byfuglien in general. once in a century player. no should have his size, skill, grace and dominating physical traits EVER, but he did
Random fact but my mother almost dated Joe thortans brother
Hmm, i think i would be more embarassed to never win a cup with King Henrik, especially as one of papa Bettman's darling teams, than Joe.
Sooo, the Rangers didn't win anything, Thornton didn't win anything, and Tortorella has a cup, in 2004.
Hate to say it, but he was right. Which is a shame, because I like Joe more than I like Torts, but hey. It's part of the fun in the NHL.
But really, it's the Rangers. The last time they won it, they literally pissed in the cup.
i mean saying he hasn't won anything is a stretch cause while he never won a cup he did win lotta other things but at the same time calling the rangers soft is the most ridiculous thing one could ever say especially in the early 2010s when torts was calling the shots. Ofc in the mid 2010s and late 2010s when vigenault was calling the shots they were still very blue collar and hardcore but the early 2010s when they had torts and calling them soft is the most insane take ever
Why did I think this was a stan bowman vid?😂😂😂
I mean, getting pressed about being called soft is pretty soft.
JOE THORNTON IS A GD SAINT
Why are the New York Rangers constantly putting world-class goalies in position to make endless strings of impossible saves? It's almost like the skaters think they're being paid to reenact the surrender of New Amsterdam in 1664...especially whenever they play teams in red...
As a Caps fan, my beef is with Derek Stepan for 2015 Game 7.
You could do the Sens uber video 😂
Lundqvist is not a top 10 goalie of all time so you can't really say that he's one of the best goalies of all time
Thornton was a dirty player. I’m glad he never got his name on the Cup as a player.
I am a Sharks fan and I love Joe, but he's not getting in the hall because like Tortorella said, he never won dickety shit. Individual awards mean nothing without a ring.
I see you're going for one of the worst takes ever. I would be shocked if he isn't a first ballot hall of famer, but I can't imagine any scenario where he doesn't make it at all. Even fans of rival teams who hate him know he's going to the hall. The cup is a team award and if you don't have the depth, goaltending, or luck (injuries/bounces) to win it doesn't mean you shouldn't be in the hall. Individually, he's one of the top playmakers of all time, number 7 in assists, number 14 in points, Hart, Art Ross, 3 additional top five finishes for Hart, 2 more top 10, a top 5 Selke finish, won a Spengler Cup, Swiss Ice Hockey Championship, World Junior Championship, World Cup of Hockey twice, and Olympics.
Can you make a video about the best rookie this year *brock Faber* and his contract
I'd like to see you cover the Kings vs Sharks 3-0 comeback. Plus, you'd get to rub it in to Joe :)
Not sure what you're talking about. In 2014 the NHL randomly decided to cancel the playoffs after the third game of the first round.
@@jonmendelson1104 Lol, I respect the game my dude.
The Jiri Fischer incident of 2005.
Am I crazy or was that a ´Varsity Blues’ reference?😂
He didn't mean soft as in skilled lol
I have a great deep dive for you eck! No one ever really talked about it…Really curious to see your take on it, lmk if you’re interested 👍
Avery was on that Rangers team as well I think
Never liked Thornton. Everyone talked up his crazy playoff beards... but they were just beards. He didnt go in shaven.
Joek Hortons
This channel has gone down so much, this is pointless
Brendan Smith vs. Zdeno Chara
Every Leafs game 7 choke
In a podcast, they asked Ian White what it was like playing with Joe Thornton in San Jose and all he had to say was that Jumbo Joe would yell on the bench to give him the fuckin puck if he didn’t touch it enough.
Who's your captain?
I hate Thornton but it was funny when him and sedin were talking to the ref and he kept sticking his glove in sedins face.
This is hilarious
I mean Torts wasn’t wrong lol
Flyers comeback 0-3 vs bruins and/or the kings reverse sweep of the sharks
Good video🎉
Sorry i dunno much about the Rangers, I'm excited for next season for when you'll talk about the Oilers again though lol
Joe Thornton was one of the dirtiest players
Quick > Lundqvist
Rangers lundqvist day's were not even that good he CARRIED
3 out of the last 6 Stanley Cup Championships have gone to multi-billionaire land, Florida. Why is no one talking about this?
San Jose is in the West not East 😂
There's a reason I loved calling him "Homeless Joe"
Dude liked to pop off at the mouth and always bitched about "I deserve a Cup"
Wonder how THAT went lmao
Joe Thornton.. best player to win nothing.. lol
If you want to cover something funny, you might want to cover the John Scott vs Phil Kessel ‘’fight’’
The more I reflect on your content of the past, and the more I observe it recently, the more I realize you are focused way too much on being angry over nothing and making sure your entire fanbase knows it. I'm unsubbing from your channels for it. For the two cents it's worth, I recognize that I'm just one rando on the Internet, so I know my leaving will likely not mean a thing to you, which is fine. I only say all of this so you might have a chance to see what you could do better. Good luck to you.
I’ve already unsubbed for the ridiculous video titles. They are so emotionally stupid. It’s like Eck watched a bunch of those “HOW TO GENERATE CLICKS ON TH-cam “videos and followed all of them. Eck you just need to add more red circles to your content 😂
sorry Hank was overrated. I love Hank, he was a good goalie, he's a great ambassador for the Rangers and hockey, he's good looking and a great dresser--but he choked a lot. I remember in particular him choking in the crucial shootout against Philly which got Philly in the playoffs.
I still say,if he had a better team in front of him,if he had spent his career in Pittsburgh or Chicago instead of New York,he wouldn't have stopped winning Stanley Cups
@@henrymanzano2201 maybe
Don’t really like torts but wouldn’t mind if he was my coach
All the players in the nhl today are soft
That's what happens when you have participation trophies and safe spaces, the whole world is soft, not just nhl players
Jumbo is a fan favourite. Gtfoh w this shit.