Excellent video. 2 additional observations: 1. On my HD7950 I have 2 VBIOS versions. One is modded to have EFI-bootscreen on my MP4,1. With this VBIOS selected, AMD graphics drivers don’t work, resulting in a black screen. Switching to the original VBIOS solves this, I get normal screen behaviour 2 If you want to install W11 without internet connection, eg no wifi-card and/or no ethernet, you can do a SHIFT-F10 at the country-selection screen and type “OOBE\BYPASSNRO” [enter]. System will restart and now shows the option to install without internet
1) That's interesting. I do not have a boot screen with the card but it also doesn't seem to accept the AMD drivers. Will read on how I can see which BIOS is there and maybe try to flash it with another one, if available. 2) I did apply that one actually (I did video on how to avoid a Microsoft account a while back). Didn't mention it in the video bit you can see that after setup completes, the language that is selected ia different :)
@@jensdbe I also have this card, I initially bought because I wanted a boot screen from my 5,1using open core. I installed it and it booted the bootscreen no flashed require (it could already been flashed by the previous owner) Anyway i also installed Win 11 and ran into the same problem incompatible drives from AMD. I force installed the one for windows 10 and once installed the AMD software actually install the correct driver for win11 so it shows the correct GPU in the device manager.
I have Mac OS High Sierra and Mojave on a PCI OWC Accelsior 1m2 with bootcamp. Only use windows to play Bethesda games, all my major games are on Mac os
Hello,I'm a viewer from Italy,I really like how you give these old pcs a new life. Btw I have as a my primary pc one dell optiplex 3010(big one),I received it for free,it was without ram and hard disk,I used what I have as a spare parts,500 gb hd and 2 sticks of ram 4 gb each ddr3 1333 mhz.I also upgraded the power supply from the original with 275 W with another one with 500 W.Even if it's still pretty usable with Windows 11 installed on it,I think it's time to upgrade it and I would like to push to its limits. Rn I have i3-3240,I see that it can be upgraded to i7-3770,but someone says it can have compatibility issues,others say it works fine,so before buying it I would like to know if it's good for my pc and also wich gpu I should buy to get the best performance? And after replancing the cpu can I upgrade ram too or I need to stick at 8gb? I already have in mind to buy an ssd too. Thanks a lot in advance.
A very good video, thanks. Do you know if this will work if I want to install Win11 on the same physical disc as MacOS, but a different partition? I used to run Bootcamp that way with Win10.
How much can I improve a mac 5.1 ? How high can I go with cpu's and gpu's ? Because 1650 is not all that attractive. I am interested in buyin a mac 5.1.
Thanks for uplading the video! Have you upgraded from Windows 10 to Windows 11? I have a NVME drive with Windows 10 installed and expect it would be the same process as installing Windows 11 on a NVME drive using OpenCore? Also, are the drivers from Apple for 5,1 not needed for Windows 11? I've always used the drivers from Apple for Windows on the 5,1
I think you can safely upgrade to Windows 11 as you would do in any other unsupported system (I did a frw videos on that as well). All drivers are found on Windoes update so no need to download any bootcamp-files with Brigardier or Bombardier.
@@jensdbe I don't think this would be an issue but if upgrading from Windows 10, the installation process should not write to the bootrom of the Mac pro as long as opencore is installed? Just want to double check and clarify
Very nice - I will be using your knowledge to install several OSs on a MacPro7,1. I've only ever installed Windows 11 inside Parallels, not on a bootable partition. What screen recording software do you prefer for Windows?
I'm typically using a HDMI capture card, so I can record without a performance impact and also before the OS is started. OBS does a good job and even the built-in screen recorder of Windows 11 is not bad either to my limited experience
Hi! Thank you for this video (and all the others too). I recently got two Mac Pro's 4,1 and have updated them to 5,1 firmware. On the internal SATA drive I have installed (with Open Core) macOS Sequoia and it has been working fine. Now I have installed a NVMe M.2 drive with that Sabren PCIe adapter you showed on another video. It seems to work fine. :) My goal is to install Windows 11 24H2 on that NVMe drive (but keep that SATA drive with Sequoia). I boot up the USB drive and select the NVMe drive for the Windows install. It starts to copy files (up to approximately 80%) and at the first reboot it just shows that BSOD with a message that winload.efi is missing. And I can't get past that point… Can you point me in some direction in how I can solve that?
You shouldn't install Windows in UEFI mode (by booting from USB) on the 5,1 or 4,1. It could eventually brick your machine. Have a look at a video I did specifically on getting Windows 11 on 5,1: th-cam.com/video/yZPKLmmjKSQ/w-d-xo.html
@@jensdbe Thanks for answering. :) Sorry, I didn't mention that I followed that guide. So it boots via OpenCore, but for some reason I get the winload.efi missing/broken message.
A very interesting and useful video!👍👍 Would the problems which you mentioned also happen with a Linux installation, such as Linux Mint. I recently bought a job lot of unused parts and there are two adaptor cards for M.2 SSD, the 2 adaptors are of different designs and I'm not certain what type of computers they would be used in, perhaps Mac laptops?
The problem only seems to be present when using Windows. For Linux you might run into different issues but it can also be booted from OpenCore as far as I know.
The issue i'm running into with my installation is that once my computer gets to the end of the installation it prompts me with the error "Windows could not prepare the computer to boot into the next phase of installation. To install Windows, restart the installation". I'm trying to install Windows to a partition on my boot drive that also has Monterey and opencore on it. Has anyone else had this issue with installing Windows 11?
Does anybody came out with a solution for this? Once I tried to boot in the new disk with the win11 installed for finish the installation OpenCore does not show it…
3:08 I own two 5,1 running Mojave, and I'm happy with both. One is isolated and solely for Adobe Illustrator CS 6, with no OS upgrades in the pipeline. The other might become a Monterey Mac. Are there any other factors that could cause issues with the boot rom? TIA
Thank you so much for you videos. I followed them to install Sequoia and OC on my Mac Pro 4,1, and then Windows 11 on an NVMe drive. However, when I update Windows, it causes Open Core to no longer work. It just gets stuck on the Apple logo. Is this a common issue?
Hmm, haven't seen such an issue so far. Updates can just install as on a "normal" system. Being stuck on an Apple logo seems to indicate that instead of OpenCore being started, macOS starts directly. Do you have a GPU that displays a boot loader? In that case, try to hold the Alt/Option key and see if you can manually start OpenCore instead.
@@jensdbe I saw a comment on reddit that said that Windows updates can delete the EFI partition on the OpenCore harddrive. Is that something that could happen? I don't have a GPU with boot loader, I've just avoided updating Windows for now
I think you should be good to do exactly the same. The only difference should be the video drivers to get. But the generic AMD Radeon drivers should do the job.
Should work fine to install Windows 11 but you won't be able to upgrade to the latest FW version in case you want to boot from NVMe as I explained in an earlier video: th-cam.com/video/zTl1lL1zfkg/w-d-xo.html
@@jensdbe Hello, one last question, I finished installing MacOS Big Sur, I opened OCLP and when trying to update the rooting patches, OCLP does not find any patches, I don't know if there is a solution?
You need to press the Alt/Option key. I did notice it does not work on all keyboard, especially wireless. If you use an Apple keyboard it always works.
Hello - newbie here - update my cMP 5,1 to Monterey from boot firmware 144.000.000.000.000 it change to 9999.999.999.999.999 -; when trying to install windows based on your video to an nvme drive - it gets stuck at the downloading windows files - and say that need to format to ex-fat; already formatted it to exfat at the start; tried to reformat and install windows - same result- would appreciate your help - thanks
This is most likely some version-spoofing done by OCLP. This would prevent a newer, not-patched, FW-version from upgrading your current (real) version. I didn't test with any latest OCLP releases since I did this video but a bit strange to see. In general it shouldn't really matter as it is just a different version being reported than the real one.
Hello please help me i have macpro 5.1 2010. i have 3 nvme ssd 1 sonoma 1 win11 nd 1 4t data i haved card 680 and asus rx 580 how to work on sonoma this driver please? On windows its ok but on mac 8mb i see no 8g not working.
@@raphaelstefanidis5834 it works on Sonoma with the root patches applied by OCLP but you will not get the Mac boot screen. You will see OpenCore boot selection though
If I wanted to install ONLY windows 11 with no other operating system can I just create an optical disc and install from the disc without having to use open core or any other software? Ironically it might just be easier for me to make a DVD then I don’t have to worry about any problems with wrecking my Mac due to the USB installer. I realise I will need to make the registry changes to get round the TPM. I plan on installing to a SATA SSD on a 4.1 (flashed to 5.1).
If you use a DVD to install Windows 11,you won't have the issues or danger with the certificates in the bootrom so that is a good option for you. Once you have started the installer just add the registry keys as I did in the video to skip the hardware check.
Hi! @jensd_be I have MacPro 5.1, installed PCIe to M2 NVMe, and tried to install Windows 11 there, but no one chance… I made USB flash with Windows through Rufus, installation started, I formatted disks, and after rebooting it shows me blue screen, that windows can’t be loaded because it can’t find winload.efi. I’m trying to get an answer almost 6 months.. I have only windows installed on sata ssd, I don’t have macOS anywhere. And I don’t see boot loading, only when I turned on my Mac, I see after 15-20 sec black screen, then it’s propose me to chose the system (but there only windows) and then loading.. that’s all( I’m so sorry for my English. Hope someone will help me here. Thank you in advance 🙏
Talk about timely . . . I picked up a cheap Mac Pro with a HD 7950 last week. Awesome!
Enjoy :)
genuinely the best guide on how to do this , i'm typing this on my mac pro 5,1 running windows 11 with my rx580 . Thank you dude
Nice to hear. Enjoy the 5,1! Still feels like a nice machine to work with :)
Em jogos onlines como fica a taxa o fps?
Appreciate it-I’ll stick to your preference to be safe. Thanks again!
Your videos are the best. Helpful and easy to follow THANK YOU!
Excellent video. 2 additional observations:
1. On my HD7950 I have 2 VBIOS versions. One is modded to have EFI-bootscreen on my MP4,1. With this VBIOS selected, AMD graphics drivers don’t work, resulting in a black screen. Switching to the original VBIOS solves this, I get normal screen behaviour
2 If you want to install W11 without internet connection, eg no wifi-card and/or no ethernet, you can do a SHIFT-F10 at the country-selection screen and type “OOBE\BYPASSNRO” [enter]. System will restart and now shows the option to install without internet
1) That's interesting. I do not have a boot screen with the card but it also doesn't seem to accept the AMD drivers. Will read on how I can see which BIOS is there and maybe try to flash it with another one, if available.
2) I did apply that one actually (I did video on how to avoid a Microsoft account a while back). Didn't mention it in the video bit you can see that after setup completes, the language that is selected ia different :)
@@jensdbe I also have this card, I initially bought because I wanted a boot screen from my 5,1using open core. I installed it and it booted the bootscreen no flashed require (it could already been flashed by the previous owner) Anyway i also installed Win 11 and ran into the same problem incompatible drives from AMD. I force installed the one for windows 10 and once installed the AMD software actually install the correct driver for win11 so it shows the correct GPU in the device manager.
Will be doing this soon enough. Thanks!
Hats off to you, incredibly useful video as always. Keep up the great work, so others like me can learn. Thank you for your time and effort.
Thanks a lot for the nice feedback :)
Hi, when i do this i get to the stage where it starts the install then says the installation could not be completed, please help
The last pro machine Apple designed and sell. All after that machine, just paper pro..
Can't agree more. It starts to show its age but I'm still in love with it :)
Extraordinario video.... veré si puedo hacerlo en mi MacPro 5.1... Son máquinas hermosas! unlike y suscripcion desde Chile!
Hola... Una consulta, Maestro:
¿Como puedo verificar la ROM de mi MacPro 5.1?... Con que programa puedo hacer un volcado de ese contenido?
thank you!, Got it working
i did this on my iMac 27inch 2013 highest spec. typing on it now.
Yes you’re right on that
I have Mac OS High Sierra and Mojave on a PCI OWC Accelsior 1m2 with bootcamp. Only use windows to play Bethesda games, all my major games are on Mac os
Hello,I'm a viewer from Italy,I really like how you give these old pcs a new life.
Btw I have as a my primary pc one dell optiplex 3010(big one),I received it for free,it was without ram and hard disk,I used what I have as a spare parts,500 gb hd and 2 sticks of ram 4 gb each ddr3 1333 mhz.I also upgraded the power supply from the original with 275 W with another one with 500 W.Even if it's still pretty usable with Windows 11 installed on it,I think it's time to upgrade it and I would like to push to its limits.
Rn I have i3-3240,I see that it can be upgraded to i7-3770,but someone says it can have compatibility issues,others say it works fine,so before buying it I would like to know if it's good for my pc and also wich gpu I should buy to get the best performance?
And after replancing the cpu can I upgrade ram too or I need to stick at 8gb?
I already have in mind to buy an ssd too.
Thanks a lot in advance.
Hey thanks for this! I was hoping to partition my NVME and run windows on one, ventura on the other. I imagine that should be ok, no?
Yeah hat should work fine, yes. I prefer to use separate drives for each but both ways work
Have you experienced any issues with installing windows 11 with this method? Thanks for the informative video!!
No issues at all so far. Works as you would expect.
A very good video, thanks. Do you know if this will work if I want to install Win11 on the same physical disc as MacOS, but a different partition? I used to run Bootcamp that way with Win10.
How much can I improve a mac 5.1 ? How high can I go with cpu's and gpu's ? Because 1650 is not all that attractive. I am interested in buyin a mac 5.1.
I always get stucked in the drive selection, it always tells there's a problem with the format :/ mbr or gpt
Thanks for uplading the video! Have you upgraded from Windows 10 to Windows 11? I have a NVME drive with Windows 10 installed and expect it would be the same process as installing Windows 11 on a NVME drive using OpenCore?
Also, are the drivers from Apple for 5,1 not needed for Windows 11? I've always used the drivers from Apple for Windows on the 5,1
I think you can safely upgrade to Windows 11 as you would do in any other unsupported system (I did a frw videos on that as well). All drivers are found on Windoes update so no need to download any bootcamp-files with Brigardier or Bombardier.
@@jensdbe I don't think this would be an issue but if upgrading from Windows 10, the installation process should not write to the bootrom of the Mac pro as long as opencore is installed? Just want to double check and clarify
wich cable do you used to plug on monitor??? i want plug in imac 2006 tks
Very nice - I will be using your knowledge to install several OSs on a MacPro7,1. I've only ever installed Windows 11 inside Parallels, not on a bootable partition. What screen recording software do you prefer for Windows?
I'm typically using a HDMI capture card, so I can record without a performance impact and also before the OS is started. OBS does a good job and even the built-in screen recorder of Windows 11 is not bad either to my limited experience
Hi! Thank you for this video (and all the others too). I recently got two Mac Pro's 4,1 and have updated them to 5,1 firmware. On the internal SATA drive I have installed (with Open Core) macOS Sequoia and it has been working fine. Now I have installed a NVMe M.2 drive with that Sabren PCIe adapter you showed on another video. It seems to work fine. :)
My goal is to install Windows 11 24H2 on that NVMe drive (but keep that SATA drive with Sequoia). I boot up the USB drive and select the NVMe drive for the Windows install. It starts to copy files (up to approximately 80%) and at the first reboot it just shows that BSOD with a message that winload.efi is missing. And I can't get past that point…
Can you point me in some direction in how I can solve that?
You shouldn't install Windows in UEFI mode (by booting from USB) on the 5,1 or 4,1. It could eventually brick your machine. Have a look at a video I did specifically on getting Windows 11 on 5,1: th-cam.com/video/yZPKLmmjKSQ/w-d-xo.html
@@jensdbe Thanks for answering. :) Sorry, I didn't mention that I followed that guide. So it boots via OpenCore, but for some reason I get the winload.efi missing/broken message.
A very interesting and useful video!👍👍 Would the problems which you mentioned also happen with a Linux installation, such as Linux Mint. I recently bought a job lot of unused parts and there are two adaptor cards for M.2 SSD, the 2 adaptors are of different designs and I'm not certain what type of computers they would be used in, perhaps Mac laptops?
The problem only seems to be present when using Windows. For Linux you might run into different issues but it can also be booted from OpenCore as far as I know.
@@jensdbe Thanks for the reply and perhaps Linux could be the topic for another video.
The issue i'm running into with my installation is that once my computer gets to the end of the installation it prompts me with the error "Windows could not prepare the computer to boot into the next phase of installation. To install Windows, restart the installation". I'm trying to install Windows to a partition on my boot drive that also has Monterey and opencore on it. Has anyone else had this issue with installing Windows 11?
Yes, dealing with it right now. Did you ever figure this out?
Does anybody came out with a solution for this? Once I tried to boot in the new disk with the win11 installed for finish the installation OpenCore does not show it…
3:08 I own two 5,1 running Mojave, and I'm happy with both. One is isolated and solely for Adobe Illustrator CS 6, with no OS upgrades in the pipeline. The other might become a Monterey Mac. Are there any other factors that could cause issues with the boot rom? TIA
OCLP should protect your boot ROM from being written to often. As long as you stay on macOS I don't think there is a lot of risk anyway.
Thank you so much. It's really comforting to hear that I can enjoy my Mac Pros for a few more years. @@jensdbe
I installed W10 several times on bootcamp?
plugin a second monitor to get full Geekbench scores in macOS :D
Thank you so much for you videos. I followed them to install Sequoia and OC on my Mac Pro 4,1, and then Windows 11 on an NVMe drive. However, when I update Windows, it causes Open Core to no longer work. It just gets stuck on the Apple logo. Is this a common issue?
Hmm, haven't seen such an issue so far. Updates can just install as on a "normal" system. Being stuck on an Apple logo seems to indicate that instead of OpenCore being started, macOS starts directly. Do you have a GPU that displays a boot loader? In that case, try to hold the Alt/Option key and see if you can manually start OpenCore instead.
@@jensdbe I saw a comment on reddit that said that Windows updates can delete the EFI partition on the OpenCore harddrive. Is that something that could happen? I don't have a GPU with boot loader, I've just avoided updating Windows for now
Do games that require avx work on windows ?
I have a 4.1 / 5.1 and a AMD Radeon Vll . What i have to do different from the Video?
I think you should be good to do exactly the same. The only difference should be the video drivers to get. But the generic AMD Radeon drivers should do the job.
Great tutorial, will this work on 2.8ghz quad core Intel Xeon with ATI radeon hd 5770 1gb? Thanks!
Should work fine to install Windows 11 but you won't be able to upgrade to the latest FW version in case you want to boot from NVMe as I explained in an earlier video: th-cam.com/video/zTl1lL1zfkg/w-d-xo.html
@@jensdbeThank you! Will watch your videos to learn more.
Hi Jens
If I need my 5,1 upgrade from Mojave to Sonoma
I have to install open core and Sonoma in a same ssd?
Can be on different drives
So you recommending 1 ssd only for open core and MacHd for Sonoma?
Hi jensd_be, how about everything, I hope you would like to know if this method to install windows works with the Big Sur installer OCLP?
Should work fine to build and install OCLP from Big Sur
@@jensdbe Hello, one last question, I finished installing MacOS Big Sur, I opened OCLP and when trying to update the rooting patches, OCLP does not find any patches, I don't know if there is a solution?
I want to install MacOS to a blank drive from USB. But I still can't boot to USB from Apple Mac Pro. Can you tell me its exact boot key
You need to press the Alt/Option key. I did notice it does not work on all keyboard, especially wireless. If you use an Apple keyboard it always works.
Hello - newbie here - update my cMP 5,1 to Monterey from boot firmware 144.000.000.000.000 it change to 9999.999.999.999.999 -; when trying to install windows based on your video to an nvme drive - it gets stuck at the downloading windows files - and say that need to format to ex-fat; already formatted it to exfat at the start; tried to reformat and install windows - same result- would appreciate your help - thanks
This is most likely some version-spoofing done by OCLP. This would prevent a newer, not-patched, FW-version from upgrading your current (real) version. I didn't test with any latest OCLP releases since I did this video but a bit strange to see. In general it shouldn't really matter as it is just a different version being reported than the real one.
psst, just use the modded amd driver for win10/11
Hello please help me i have macpro 5.1 2010. i have 3 nvme ssd 1 sonoma 1 win11 nd 1 4t data i haved card 680 and asus rx 580 how to work on sonoma this driver please? On windows its ok but on mac 8mb i see no 8g not working.
Did you try to open OCLP and check if the patches are installed? You can also try to uninstall and reinstall them. That should do it.
@@jensdbe asus rx580 working on sonoma or need another saphire 580 mit boot screen?
@@raphaelstefanidis5834 it works on Sonoma with the root patches applied by OCLP but you will not get the Mac boot screen. You will see OpenCore boot selection though
i installed windows 11 22h2 on a 4.1 without OpenCore i dont use mac os system anymore
I know that this works but it is really not a good idea. I explain why in the video but in short it can completely brick your Mac.
If I wanted to install ONLY windows 11 with no other operating system can I just create an optical disc and install from the disc without having to use open core or any other software? Ironically it might just be easier for me to make a DVD then I don’t have to worry about any problems with wrecking my Mac due to the USB installer. I realise I will need to make the registry changes to get round the TPM. I plan on installing to a SATA SSD on a 4.1 (flashed to 5.1).
If you use a DVD to install Windows 11,you won't have the issues or danger with the certificates in the bootrom so that is a good option for you. Once you have started the installer just add the registry keys as I did in the video to skip the hardware check.
@@jensdbe brilliant thank you!
Hi! @jensd_be
I have MacPro 5.1, installed PCIe to M2 NVMe, and tried to install Windows 11 there, but no one chance…
I made USB flash with Windows through Rufus, installation started, I formatted disks, and after rebooting it shows me blue screen, that windows can’t be loaded because it can’t find winload.efi.
I’m trying to get an answer almost 6 months..
I have only windows installed on sata ssd, I don’t have macOS anywhere. And I don’t see boot loading, only when I turned on my Mac, I see after 15-20 sec black screen, then it’s propose me to chose the system (but there only windows) and then loading.. that’s all(
I’m so sorry for my English. Hope someone will help me here. Thank you in advance 🙏
Listen carefully to what the guy says about USB drive Windows installation from minute @2:50, it's better to install it from DVD DRIVE
у меня window 11 и на макпро1.1/2.1
Did a video on that as well: th-cam.com/video/ehDF3mrwbfE/w-d-xo.html
put a rtx titan inside
It,s a shame to put windows on apple.
@@cormuizer if only Apple didn't stop supporting this hardware I would agree :)
Please find yourself another jobb