Looks good. Tip for next time. It'll be easier (and cleaner on your crossovers) to drill out those speaker screw holes before assembling the box, and to sand the box before adding the crossover.
Would love to do something like this, I have the cabinet making skills, but the crossover is the stumbling block for me, you're lucky to have had it designed & built for you. I need to gather a lot more knowledge before I can do that.
But, why no bass reflex? it help a lot not only for a deep bass but also for release the pressure from inside of the speakers and reducing the distortion chances/amount!
@@Orpheuss62 I agree with you there, Having bass ports does amplifier the bass effects, makes it sound deeper and fuller. Tho sealed enclosure does offer a tight sound signature and punchy boxy bass. So It depends on people's taste. Me personally I would use bass ports too :)
I really enjoyed watching this process. I am new just getting into home audio and I am going to try to build a pair of bookshelf speakers and I was just wondering if you could change anything about these speakers looking back would you? Also do they have good bass without being ported? Thank you very much for doing this video.
Last year I made a pair of tower speakers (MDF enclosures) and I only used wood glue and clamps and even a heavy pair of bookshelf speakers to help with the clamping. No screws. I tuned the boxes by ear.
No reflex? Have you taken an on and off axis response? Would love to see that data on these build. Seems like the box is going to rumble itself apart with no porting. Did you spec out the crossover with the driver stats in XSIM?
I am getting ready to do a Overnight Sensations build (my 1st). would be cool if you included a detailed parts list for your custom builds. Especially for the custom crossovers.
Could you please give the model numbers for the speakers and the crossover components you used? These look really nice and I'd like to build an active version of them with Bluetooth for my sister.
I noticed that you didn't use anything to seal under the speakers. I know the tweeters don't have any sealant material under them, but I couldn't tell is the woofers did. I'd be worried about air leaks. Chuffing sucks.
They are designed for the speakers specifically instead of just designed for a large variety or speakers. All in all they sound better. 123Toid explains this in detail on his channel :)
In order to get the best sound from any drivers, you need a custom crossover designed. There's to much to go into right here, but Impulse Audio had a great video on prebuilt crossovers versus custom.
@@Toid this just made me smile. It's so nice to see everyone mentioning each other. Jack mentions Toid and Toid mentions Impulse Audio :) I feel like the DIY audio community on TH-cam is really going right now.
Exactly, the insulation will give the air inside the cabinet a longer travel wich will give the speaker sound like it had a bigger cabinet and a lot less "boxy" sounding too.
Funny thing is, you did the same thing as me with the center channel. I did not have enough room for a fancy mid, tweet, mid center speaker in my room, so I did what you did and went for a regular bookshelf speaker. I do not see any obvious improvements of having 2 woofers on the side of my center instead of just one on the bottom. After all, the tweeter really decides if your dialogue sounds clear, crisp, or just muffled. Good move not wasting money on 2 woofers.
general specific you are absolutely correct. I do not have a midrange in mine, but the Polk Audio t15 I used gas a midwoofer and a silk dome tweeter. It certainly sounds like it contains a midrange, and I am happy with it until I can find something slightly more pricy. The earlier Paradigm Atom (using earlier paradigm titans for left and right) are apparently better after a refoam, like I did to my titans, and will match more.
Fantastic DIY video, great project, very nice speakers! Please, if you can, suggest me a Dayton full range 3.5" or 4" or another of the same category to match it with a Peerless 6.5" woofer, no tweeter, I want to make experimental studio monitors, just for fun ! Thank you very much !
The Esoteric series speakers have state-of-the-art bass. Duke Lejeune of AudioKinesis told me they have the best bass he has heard in a 6.5-7" size class speaker. They are not a cheap driver, and it is important that you try to chamfer the back side of the baffle around the woofer cutout if you can, to help with airflow through the frame windows between the cone and spider landings.
What about the subs? You said "in the next video where you will see how the whole systems sounds". Or is the next one the subwoofer build where we will see how the complete system sounds?
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any speaker will do the same amount of bass depends of how high or low speaker is placed too, how close the rear wall is, how close side walls are, and many, many other things
Hi Doublsmm, I really like the components used in the crossover! That important topic is often missverstanden or underrated. Did you measure up the frequency response? Last question: Why did you chose a closed design? I think the woofer is designed for a ported speaker.
Hi nice job! I'm also going to rebuild an old set of bookshelves. But I was also wondering why you didn't put in a port? Are they necessary? I'm new at this too👍
If you think you need all this tools to make a speaker box, then I'm just going to tell you that you're wrong I made a ported subwoofer box with only a hand saw wood glue, and it sounds awesome the bass that is producing is clear and great and there's not an airflow issue
You can do simple cabinetry, or you can do complex cabinetry. As long as you have a sealed chamber, and a baffle that is reasonably flat and free of obstructions at the corners, then you're fine. It's up to you and what you like.
Maybe he's really worried about size? I'm in the process of designing some bookshelf speakers with the Reference Series 6" woofer and the enclosure is a little over 8 liters...
@@ELMtreeProductions im currently also in a similar proces, except with the 7'' reference series and ported, and i think i'll go with 36 liters, because my size limitations allow it, and i want to tune the speakers to arround 30 hz or so
I was going to add a similar comment. I've seen 123Toid show these speaker combos as well, but it would be great to get a review of them in comparison to commercially available bookshelves at the same cost. What did these come out to? About $500 or more?
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Peerless speakers are something absolutely fantastic.
Looks good. Tip for next time. It'll be easier (and cleaner on your crossovers) to drill out those speaker screw holes before assembling the box, and to sand the box before adding the crossover.
No dampaning the speaker?
Very good job and beautiful song choises. Bravo my Friend🙌🙂🤝🤝🤝
I like these DIY videos, you encouraged me to think about re-using pair of bookshelf speaker drivers in new enclosure
All about the crossover man.
@@Luke-qs2cg In this video I've learned that you can connect everything to anything, put it in the birdhouse and you've got it. :)
Would love to do something like this, I have the cabinet making skills, but the crossover is the stumbling block for me, you're lucky to have had it designed & built for you. I need to gather a lot more knowledge before I can do that.
But, why no bass reflex? it help a lot not only for a deep bass but also for release the pressure from inside of the speakers and reducing the distortion chances/amount!
i like the punchy bass of a sealed enclosure
it's most likely used on a desk, so having a sealed enclosure is actually good.
@@ph4n1th I use my speakers also on desktop, and with the bass reflex ports actually sound better.
@@Orpheuss62 I agree with you there, Having bass ports does amplifier the bass effects, makes it sound deeper and fuller. Tho sealed enclosure does offer a tight sound signature and punchy boxy bass. So It depends on people's taste. Me personally I would use bass ports too :)
@@ph4n1th Here, I agree too, everything related the human senses is purely subjective.
Those look CLEAN. Nice one
A good how to for those who don't want to invest a lot in tools and are ok with function over form.
Beautiful.. I love those 7 in drivers, nice build.
Wander full making
I really enjoyed watching this process. I am new just getting into home audio and I am going to try to build a pair of bookshelf speakers and I was just wondering if you could change anything about these speakers looking back would you? Also do they have good bass without being ported? Thank you very much for doing this video.
Last year I made a pair of tower speakers (MDF enclosures) and I only used wood glue and clamps and even a heavy pair of bookshelf speakers to help with the clamping. No screws. I tuned the boxes by ear.
Very nice build
Can you please provide link to the drivers and the crossover design ? thanks for the great build
Wow they look amazing love to hear them play how much was total build of per speaker or unit
Great video, love the cinematics.
Thank you, I'm glad you liked it!
@@Doublsmmm do you have a parts list and the mesurements of the wood and the holes?
No reflex?
Have you taken an on and off axis response?
Would love to see that data on these build. Seems like the box is going to rumble itself apart with no porting.
Did you spec out the crossover with the driver stats in XSIM?
it depends
Nice clean build and driver combo. Use those esoteric woofers in a ported 3 way (2x parallel).
How big is your box? What is the qtc you chose?
Hi, i want to build 2 of this, can tell me pls what speacker use and what crossovers use?
DIY speaker and subwoofer grills please
What is the type of speakers and where can I get the parts to make the crossover
Finally got away from MDF, NICE!
what type of wood did you use?
Wow, great work! You're really talented. I wish I could do that stuff.
Nice build. Sealed I presume, but why no sound deadening?
What kind of setup or jig did you use to do the recess around the speaker openings?
I am getting ready to do a Overnight Sensations build (my 1st). would be cool if you included a detailed parts list for your custom builds. Especially for the custom crossovers.
That is a great place to start. Are you going to order the knockdown MDF cabinets, or do you plan to do the woodworking yourself?
Hello,
Are plans available somewhere? Thank you.
Very nice quality video!
Keep it up
Jeez, that's a very, very long while ago since you did a speaker build.
Awesome video
Could you please give the model numbers for the speakers and the crossover components you used? These look really nice and I'd like to build an active version of them with Bluetooth for my sister.
Could you please tell me the music used in the video, Also great work on the speakers. Keep doing it my friend.
Can you share the crossover design.
Skipped through most of the video, very clean build I must say.
That's a bitch move
Could you build a quality 2-way speaker with 8" woofer for under $125 each? Most of the DIY kits are overkill and come with weak 6" or 7" woofers.
I like the DiY bookshelf speaker. But is that really necessary to glue on the crossover board into the box before sanding the entire box?
No!
Did you sand the boxes with the crossovers inside?
I noticed that you didn't use anything to seal under the speakers. I know the tweeters don't have any sealant material under them, but I couldn't tell is the woofers did. I'd be worried about air leaks. Chuffing sucks.
I'm about 3:3 in and Why only three speakers ? It's two or four most times. Didn't think about sound insulation / fill ?
I designed these for his front soundstage in his theater. So this would be his center and two fronts
Nice work i like the color and the wood is nice
Qual madeira você usou amigo?
Are the plans for the crossovers available anywhere? Are they for sale by 123Toid?
Any advantages of building crossovers instead of buying them? Disregarding the cost
They are designed for the speakers specifically instead of just designed for a large variety or speakers. All in all they sound better. 123Toid explains this in detail on his channel :)
In order to get the best sound from any drivers, you need a custom crossover designed. There's to much to go into right here, but Impulse Audio had a great video on prebuilt crossovers versus custom.
@@Toid this just made me smile. It's so nice to see everyone mentioning each other. Jack mentions Toid and Toid mentions Impulse Audio :) I feel like the DIY audio community on TH-cam is really going right now.
You guys have a ported design in the works?
@@mag290 yes. It'll be on my channel soon as well as my website.
no foam inside ? no bass reflex ?
Cid Ou Not really necessary, and sealed boxes tend to sound better than bass reflex
@@joe070907080706 that depended on the person or the box...
@@riveralley Actually no. Sealed enclosures will always surpass bass reflex ones on sound quality. Not in raw bass output per watt though!
But insulation would still improve the sound.
Exactly, the insulation will give the air inside the cabinet a longer travel wich will give the speaker sound like it had a bigger cabinet and a lot less "boxy" sounding too.
Funny thing is, you did the same thing as me with the center channel. I did not have enough room for a fancy mid, tweet, mid center speaker in my room, so I did what you did and went for a regular bookshelf speaker. I do not see any obvious improvements of having 2 woofers on the side of my center instead of just one on the bottom. After all, the tweeter really decides if your dialogue sounds clear, crisp, or just muffled. Good move not wasting money on 2 woofers.
general specific you are absolutely correct. I do not have a midrange in mine, but the Polk Audio t15 I used gas a midwoofer and a silk dome tweeter. It certainly sounds like it contains a midrange, and I am happy with it until I can find something slightly more pricy. The earlier Paradigm Atom (using earlier paradigm titans for left and right) are apparently better after a refoam, like I did to my titans, and will match more.
Damn you have a whole woodwork room
Idk what’s better, enough JBL speakers for a whole family tree or having the ability to build decent wood cabinet speakers.
Nice job, but....
for sealed box, rubber foam gasket between speaker and box is A MUST, as well as cotton thread or wool filling
nhf :-)
Awesome work sir.. salute
No ports for air?
Nice work
love videos like this
are the ¨punchy¨ ?, I mean the bass
Sooooooooo gooooooooooood. Thumbs up double.!!!
Fantastic DIY video, great project, very nice speakers!
Please, if you can, suggest me a Dayton full range 3.5" or 4" or another of the same category to match it with a Peerless 6.5" woofer, no tweeter, I want to make experimental studio monitors, just for fun !
Thank you very much !
Dayton Audio PS95
Which wood is that ?
I'm jealous you have all the proper equipment and space. At the moment I don't
How is the bass in the esoteric’s?
The Esoteric series speakers have state-of-the-art bass. Duke Lejeune of AudioKinesis told me they have the best bass he has heard in a 6.5-7" size class speaker. They are not a cheap driver, and it is important that you try to chamfer the back side of the baffle around the woofer cutout if you can, to help with airflow through the frame windows between the cone and spider landings.
This is MDF of playwood?
playwood
Do you have a parts list?
These speakers are passive or active? Does the crossovers have built-in amplifier?
passive
do you see any power cord?
whats the logic behind 3 speakers
Left right centre
What about the subs? You said "in the next video where you will see how the whole systems sounds". Or is the next one the subwoofer build where we will see how the complete system sounds?
The next video should be the entire system going (all going to plan)
How do you decide on tweeter and woofer?
browse brands
What tweeters were used for this build? Looks awesome! Would love to hear them in person!
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needs vinyl or veneer
Why not go 123Toids ported design?
why my diy bookshelf speaker gives lessbass on table morebass if kept on floor?
any speaker will do the same
amount of bass depends of how high or low speaker is placed too, how close the rear wall is, how close side walls are, and many, many other things
What size is this speaker for? What are the dimensions of the speaker box?
See 2:20
Where can I buy the crossover parts and which parts would I need
Great project, very nice speakers!
7" drivers?? aren't the 6 1/2"?
love your vids bro
What are the dimensions for the box itself.
why 3 ?
Front left, Front right and Center!
Amazing!
placing the drivers/magnets so close, does it affect the speakers anyhow ? on long ter or on performance ?
iceberg789 um not at all mate.
4:16 Any woodworker will tell you that you really should use as many clamps as you can fit.
with all the tools, why don't you have a mitre joints.
at 3:30 it looks like the left one is different?? is there a reason, or a mistake? Looks like a oops to me.
Good pick-up! I never noticed that, that particular box is just upside down in that video :)
Jack can you do a song requas please reply😀
Why 3 of them?
Hi Doublsmm,
I really like the components used in the crossover! That important topic is often missverstanden or underrated.
Did you measure up the frequency response?
Last question: Why did you chose a closed design? I think the woofer is designed for a ported speaker.
Hi nice job! I'm also going to rebuild an old set of bookshelves. But I was also wondering why you didn't put in a port? Are they necessary? I'm new at this too👍
cual es la marca del tweeter
Wow cool
Still waiting for the bigger subs !!
That will be some time.
Super 👌 👍
If you think you need all this tools to make a speaker box, then I'm just going to tell you that you're wrong
I made a ported subwoofer box with only a hand saw wood glue, and it sounds awesome the bass that is producing is clear and great and there's not an airflow issue
You can do simple cabinetry, or you can do complex cabinetry. As long as you have a sealed chamber, and a baffle that is reasonably flat and free of obstructions at the corners, then you're fine. It's up to you and what you like.
And no rounded edges inside? No sound insulation? Just a box with drivers? Huh? :)
very nice :)
Why were you using headphones for the jigsaw? You listen to loud music
So that you could keep listening to that loud music.
Where are FR measurements? :)
hi
Why in the world do you keep making the ones with esoteric series woofers sealed?
Maybe he's really worried about size? I'm in the process of designing some bookshelf speakers with the Reference Series 6" woofer and the enclosure is a little over 8 liters...
If you want to see the ported version of these speakers, they will be up on my channel.
There's also a picture of them on my Instagram
@@Toid ill be sure to watch because im actually planing to build something very similar using the 7'' esoterics in a ported enclosure myself
@@ELMtreeProductions im currently also in a similar proces, except with the 7'' reference series and ported, and i think i'll go with 36 liters, because my size limitations allow it, and i want to tune the speakers to arround 30 hz or so
But how do they sound?? :D
Very nice! Videos coming soon :)
I was going to add a similar comment. I've seen 123Toid show these speaker combos as well, but it would be great to get a review of them in comparison to commercially available bookshelves at the same cost. What did these come out to? About $500 or more?
Now 12 or 15 2way or 3 way pls .
Gasketing Tape?
It might help to add a few more words to form that into a question, if that's what you intended.
@@luke9822
Yes: air leak and "are filled with damping wool to prevent all unwanted rear radiation of sound" Bowers & Wilkins
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