Thank you for everything you have done! It's been a tough time for my son and his family. Your company and customer service has been AMAZING!!!! keeping him updated daily with phone calls, emails and pictures!!! To see this video gave me goose bumps! My 3 grandkids are going to be so HAPPY to see the orange car again!!!!Thank you!!!! 🥰
We love to hear that joy being spread trough the whole family AND a new generation! Gotta keep this industry and the love for combustion alive now-a-days! 💙
@@CicioPerformance thx for what u do we need more videos of power capable of the c8 and the r8. U covered alot about the r8. But we love more. But the c8 is a great platform and I really think it would be great to see the kind of power they capable of and the tech and install it takes to get there. Can't wait till you all able to tune trans. Any 60-130 on turbo c8. Built motor vs oem motor. Stuff like that again live the content
If you were a reputable business owner, you would have honored the warranty on my engine that your technician, Brenton Brown, who was on your payroll, blew up after only 3,000 miles. Instead, your manager hung up the phone and failed to rectify the situation. How honorable is that? Your company took on the build and assumed responsibility and therefore should have honored the 12-month, 12,000-mile warranty. It's all in the tune; it over-spun the supercharger. Two separate mechanics said that the 2.7 supercharger cannot handle a 2.85 pulley, and the tune is critical. Wow!!! How honorable is that?
@lennyz1909 To be fair, they are known for their GTR builds, and I am sure they will do right by you. My issue is unique because they took over the building from a piece of crap owner at Forza Performance who screwed a bunch of customers by spending all our deposit money. I waited two years, and Cicio took over the building and kept the owner/tech on board to finish the builds. That dude didn't give a crap and screwed me. My supercharger rotary pack came apart, and metal went into my engine. They should have done the right thing and fixed the engine and replaced the supercharger or offered something. If the owner wants to do the right thing, he can reach out to me, and I will ship him my original engine for him to repair. Do the right thing!!!
I’m very sorry for your situation. I was very sorry for all of the Forza customers when they went out of business. The unfortunate reality is that you gave your money to a company that went belly up. My involvement was to try to help Brenton and all of you guys by reaching in my pocket, buying the parts to finish all the cars and get them done. Standing behind false promises that a bankrupt business made is not something I feel ethically bound to given I didn’t tell him or any of the customers that I would. It sucks honestly because the reality is we have gone way way out of our way to try to help all of the ex Forza customers, spend tons of money that we didn’t have to just to try to help all of the car guys who got lied to by them. But yet here we are publicly being accused of not standing behind a warranty from a company that went bankrupt that we had nothing to do with? Again, I’m super sorry for the situation, and hate any car enthusiast be unhappy, but your fight isn’t with me. Brenton took your money, Brenton tuned your car. Brenton went out of business and can’t stand behind his promises or work. That has nothing to do with my company. I want to also just say that I do very much appreciate you commenting clarifying some of the situation under your post. It wasn’t a fun situation for any of us. I got stuck holding a very very large bag that I didn’t sign up to hold and had no actual liability in at all. Feel free to email or call me if you wanna hash it out further. I wish I could do more. -Nathan Cicio cicio@cicioperformance.com
Keep pushing hard and putting these videos out. I think this is just the beginning of a huge expansion of your company and the channel. Local Tampa Bay technician here. Love to see quality work like this come direct from the passion and ultra-high standards of the owner/enthusiasts and your technicians. Keep up the good work!
Lol, I feel this video was personally made for me since I voiced my opinion previously about asking for a technical video on a C700 car! This was essentially just what I wanted to see. Thank you for the video and for the outstanding detail you gave!
I just dropped my car off for the TT install yesterday and then saw this video this morning. Now I want to power-coat my turbos as well. I gotta stay off this channel:) Keep up the good work.
I dropped mine off and Joe walked me around the shop when the motor was out of the orange car. Parts should be there any day now. Looking forward to picking my car up. Great video. If the media guy is free we can go do some pulls and video.
Ok so the C8 ZR1 has no turbo lag . The waste gates are sealed and the turbos are always in boost . At 1064 hp , this twin turbocharged V8 behaves like a supercharged vehicle with the efficiency of the turbos. That's a recipe for surprise and maybe disaster for the hammer foot that doesn't know how to stop joy riding.
Can you compare taking a base c8 with all the parts to make its power equal to the new c8 zr1 price wise. I'm looking at 200k for track edition c8z or 120to140 for base twin turbo of about 900 chp
I thought I see somewhere cam getting installed with out dropping motors. They took seats out and thought there was entry from inside cab. Does anyone know about this?
What's the difference in the lsd diff on the base c8 vs the z51 c8 with lsd e diff. Can you do donuts in the base c8. Or do you need z51 with e diff.what kind of diff does the base c8 have
You ask what we would like to see I would like to hear from the tech and tuner and all the issues with these cars after they are modified and what you did to fix it there's a few problems with these cars that aren't being spoken about
91 is such an unstable fuel, especially for a high compression boosted application. I wouldn’t push one more than 650-700hp absolute max and even that would make me nervous
1) The ZR1 is not out yet, the car won’t be rolling out of the factory for another year. 2) did you really compare a $60k stingray to what most likely will be a $200-250k MSRP ZR1? Lmao. If you want one you’ll be paying a premium mark up, don’t be surprised if dealer mark up makes ZR1’s around $300-350k…. You could literally build a 1500whp stingray for around $120-150k all in that will smoke a ZR1 and take that $200k you would spend on a ZR1 and put it in the bank lol.
@CGlhut3 and you think they can just print these things out of the shop like clockwork? Do you also think these things are going to be as reliable? Do you think people can finance a $120k build through a shop instead of a car deaship with a credit based loan? Also, you're assuming the car will have a 200k plus sticker. Even if it does, 120k into a 60k corvette isn't a smart move. You must be one weirdos who think their tuned shitbox is worth something because you spent the money first.
@@DSOXBLADE yes, they 100% can print these out like clock work. I bet this build is probably a 4-6 week lead time. UGR builds 2000+whp TT lambo start to finish in 6-8 weeks. Legit shops like cicio have great turn around times. Do I think a 700hp build can reliable? Of course, you’d be silly to think otherwise. This isn’t the late 90’s/ early 2000’s. 700hp is nothing these days. This isn’t a $120k build either. This build is probably all in for $30-40k. When I said $120-150k for a 1500whp c8 I was saying the build + the car would be all in for $120-150k (conservative numbers, most likely less). The actual build cost itself for 1500whp is probably around $70-80k.
I agree fully that HP is the last thing needed to add to a track car... however it does help :) We have a 650hp C8 track dedicated car that runs circles around a Z06 at Road Atlanta. ~Nathan Cicio
True, but will cost you about $200k more than this car. You could literally have a TT stingray and an audi R8 (which sounds way better than a TT 5.5) for the price of what the new ZR1 will be after dealer mark ups.
hey,video quality not good!!!!!!! just joking nice video and tech,never think about air straighteners!!! always learning something new keep the video coming love them
It’s inefficient. Turbos should be closer to the engine bay and headers. Intercoolers allow for most boost. Rear mounted has neither. Also rear mounted is exposed to the elements, which leads to corrosion.
this car can manage due to its torque, however it’s still less efficient. The laws of thermodynamics do not change. I’m not sure what kind of cam he’s adding but if it’s top end, then it may not help as much out the hole. The ZR1 has turbos in the engine bay for a reason. You should only spot turbos out the back as a last resort. If you’re a grudge racer you will understand that every edge matters. I like seeing variety though it’s still a sweet build
I believe this client has plans to add power in the future so instead of having to pull the clutch and build it again when that times come we decided to future proof! -Ryan
When you mod a car the only people that win are the people youre writing the checks too. If you have a c8 z51, Buy a Z06. If you have a Z06 wait for the Zr1.
Well there is a world wide BILLION dollar industry that likes to express themselves and thinks you are wrong. However like you there are many that are content getting fed only what a manufacturer wants to give you. And for you and those people that is awesome.... I say at least you are enjoying moderately performing vehicles that are built for the masses and targeted to the lowest common denominator. Technically you could easily take your statement to the next level and say "When you buy a performance car the only people winning are the manufacture" because it certainly isn't an appreciating asset. Be blessed and we appreciate your opinion, all be it different than ours. P.S. Don't forget to vote... or do
Well I think you just said two different things. They do run very well, but you are correct that I wish the clutches shifted more firm. That’s all in the TCU clutch pressure logic which we will have access to soon. However the C700 the clutches hold well. I also agree that trap speeds aren’t up to par for the power but most people don’t build a TT C8 to drag race… if you do then I would say there are better platforms at the moment. However saying they don’t run well is false, driving a C700 car daily is an absolute blast! Appreciate your comment
It's all in the tune. You have to turn down the torque from 3 to 4th. Had mine tuned by lingenfelter and have tracked it. If you're not going to track it don't worry about it just keep a reader plugged in and clear the faults when they pop up. Throttle control goes a long way with this tcm
I know you don’t think a basic sting ray with turbos is better than a zr1??!?!? Will you replace the motor when it fails??? NOPE! You will say you will but figure out a way not to replace
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Thank you for everything you have done! It's been a tough time for my son and his family. Your company and customer service has been AMAZING!!!! keeping him updated daily with phone calls, emails and pictures!!! To see this video gave me goose bumps! My 3 grandkids are going to be so HAPPY to see the orange car again!!!!Thank you!!!! 🥰
We love to hear that joy being spread trough the whole family AND a new generation! Gotta keep this industry and the love for combustion alive now-a-days! 💙
@@CicioPerformance thx for what u do we need more videos of power capable of the c8 and the r8. U covered alot about the r8. But we love more. But the c8 is a great platform and I really think it would be great to see the kind of power they capable of and the tech and install it takes to get there. Can't wait till you all able to tune trans. Any 60-130 on turbo c8. Built motor vs oem motor. Stuff like that again live the content
If you were a reputable business owner, you would have honored the warranty on my engine that your technician, Brenton Brown, who was on your payroll, blew up after only 3,000 miles. Instead, your manager hung up the phone and failed to rectify the situation. How honorable is that? Your company took on the build and assumed responsibility and therefore should have honored the 12-month, 12,000-mile warranty. It's all in the tune; it over-spun the supercharger. Two separate mechanics said that the 2.7 supercharger cannot handle a 2.85 pulley, and the tune is critical. Wow!!! How honorable is that?
Wow I want to see their reply because I was thinking of using them on my GTR.
@lennyz1909 To be fair, they are known for their GTR builds, and I am sure they will do right by you. My issue is unique because they took over the building from a piece of crap owner at Forza Performance who screwed a bunch of customers by spending all our deposit money. I waited two years, and Cicio took over the building and kept the owner/tech on board to finish the builds. That dude didn't give a crap and screwed me. My supercharger rotary pack came apart, and metal went into my engine. They should have done the right thing and fixed the engine and replaced the supercharger or offered something. If the owner wants to do the right thing, he can reach out to me, and I will ship him my original engine for him to repair. Do the right thing!!!
Make a youtube video about it thats the only way to get your side of the story out in the public eye @expectnolove9978
Ouch!!!!
I’m very sorry for your situation. I was very sorry for all of the Forza customers when they went out of business. The unfortunate reality is that you gave your money to a company that went belly up. My involvement was to try to help Brenton and all of you guys by reaching in my pocket, buying the parts to finish all the cars and get them done. Standing behind false promises that a bankrupt business made is not something I feel ethically bound to given I didn’t tell him or any of the customers that I would.
It sucks honestly because the reality is we have gone way way out of our way to try to help all of the ex Forza customers, spend tons of money that we didn’t have to just to try to help all of the car guys who got lied to by them. But yet here we are publicly being accused of not standing behind a warranty from a company that went bankrupt that we had nothing to do with?
Again, I’m super sorry for the situation, and hate any car enthusiast be unhappy, but your fight isn’t with me. Brenton took your money, Brenton tuned your car. Brenton went out of business and can’t stand behind his promises or work. That has nothing to do with my company.
I want to also just say that I do very much appreciate you commenting clarifying some of the situation under your post. It wasn’t a fun situation for any of us. I got stuck holding a very very large bag that I didn’t sign up to hold and had no actual liability in at all.
Feel free to email or call me if you wanna hash it out further. I wish I could do more.
-Nathan Cicio
cicio@cicioperformance.com
Keep pushing hard and putting these videos out. I think this is just the beginning of a huge expansion of your company and the channel. Local Tampa Bay technician here. Love to see quality work like this come direct from the passion and ultra-high standards of the owner/enthusiasts and your technicians. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for the encouragement! Made my morning!
Wow that tank was spotless!
Heck yea brother good stuff!! glad to see the input put into action!!
From cars to content, were customer focused and driven. Keep the input coming and we will do our best to apply it!
Lol, I feel this video was personally made for me since I voiced my opinion previously about asking for a technical video on a C700 car!
This was essentially just what I wanted to see. Thank you for the video and for the outstanding detail you gave!
Well.. It was! Like Nathan said, we're a shop first, so were just focused on what you guys are wanting to see more of. Thank you for the kind words!
I just dropped my car off for the TT install yesterday and then saw this video this morning. Now I want to power-coat my turbos as well. I gotta stay off this channel:) Keep up the good work.
I like seeing a current customer commenting in favor, proves the guys are legit as we can clearly see already! Nice I like it!
Thank you for being such a class act. Great video
Man that intercooler looks spotless 😂
Just a lil' elbow grease... 😅
Great info. You’re real. That’s appreciated.
I dropped mine off and Joe walked me around the shop when the motor was out of the orange car. Parts should be there any day now. Looking forward to picking my car up. Great video. If the media guy is free we can go do some pulls and video.
love the shop and the work. From us here in Connecticut...
I can't wait to get this for my car
I want to see more 60-130 street records ;)
I appreciate the knowledge you are sharing. Thank you🙏
Thank you for the knowledge
Show stats, more runs, clean tanks
Yes!!! Plz more Chevy content like this!!😍😍
This was good. Price number or ball park numbers would be good.
I'd love to hear some more numbers! Boost psi, horsepower gains etc
Ok so the C8 ZR1 has no turbo lag . The waste gates are sealed and the turbos are always in boost . At 1064 hp , this twin turbocharged V8 behaves like a supercharged vehicle with the efficiency of the turbos. That's a recipe for surprise and maybe disaster for the hammer foot that doesn't know how to stop joy riding.
Can you compare taking a base c8 with all the parts to make its power equal to the new c8 zr1 price wise. I'm looking at 200k for track edition c8z or 120to140 for base twin turbo of about 900 chp
Thats a great idea. Once we start getting more real life data from the ZR1 we can see how it all stacks up
Here to "do a comment" 🤙 good video man.
Great work!
I thought I see somewhere cam getting installed with out dropping motors. They took seats out and thought there was entry from inside cab. Does anyone know about this?
What's the difference in the lsd diff on the base c8 vs the z51 c8 with lsd e diff. Can you do donuts in the base c8. Or do you need z51 with e diff.what kind of diff does the base c8 have
You ask what we would like to see I would like to hear from the tech and tuner and all the issues with these cars after they are modified and what you did to fix it there's a few problems with these cars that aren't being spoken about
“Im normally not that guy”
But having a big ole cam turns u to that guy
the guy that thinks thumping is faster..... it isn't
Missed the 2 main parts most people care about…. How much is the cost and what’s the ho?
What's the number reading on that motor? horsepower and torque. What is it with the turbos.??
Price ?
How much whp do you think the c8 turbo kit can you get if you add the port injection with intank pump 91 octane hp tuned.
91 is such an unstable fuel, especially for a high compression boosted application. I wouldn’t push one more than 650-700hp absolute max and even that would make me nervous
And now the ZR1 is out and come stock with nearly the same output, safely.
1) The ZR1 is not out yet, the car won’t be rolling out of the factory for another year.
2) did you really compare a $60k stingray to what most likely will be a $200-250k MSRP ZR1? Lmao. If you want one you’ll be paying a premium mark up, don’t be surprised if dealer mark up makes ZR1’s around $300-350k….
You could literally build a 1500whp stingray for around $120-150k all in that will smoke a ZR1 and take that $200k you would spend on a ZR1 and put it in the bank lol.
@CGlhut3 and you think they can just print these things out of the shop like clockwork?
Do you also think these things are going to be as reliable?
Do you think people can finance a $120k build through a shop instead of a car deaship with a credit based loan?
Also, you're assuming the car will have a 200k plus sticker. Even if it does, 120k into a 60k corvette isn't a smart move. You must be one weirdos who think their tuned shitbox is worth something because you spent the money first.
@@DSOXBLADE yes, they 100% can print these out like clock work. I bet this build is probably a 4-6 week lead time. UGR builds 2000+whp TT lambo start to finish in 6-8 weeks. Legit shops like cicio have great turn around times.
Do I think a 700hp build can reliable? Of course, you’d be silly to think otherwise. This isn’t the late 90’s/ early 2000’s. 700hp is nothing these days.
This isn’t a $120k build either. This build is probably all in for $30-40k. When I said $120-150k for a 1500whp c8 I was saying the build + the car would be all in for $120-150k (conservative numbers, most likely less). The actual build cost itself for 1500whp is probably around $70-80k.
Hp/tq? DYNO SHEET?
Home boi is a real dork 😂😂😂8:08 8:39 8:40
That's what I was thinking
Between the ZR1 and the Z07, I'd rather have the Z07. But I would move the aero over from the ZR1.
HP doesn't make a fast track toy.
I agree fully that HP is the last thing needed to add to a track car... however it does help :) We have a 650hp C8 track dedicated car that runs circles around a Z06 at Road Atlanta.
~Nathan Cicio
Nothing compares to the 5.5 TT
True, but will cost you about $200k more than this car. You could literally have a TT stingray and an audi R8 (which sounds way better than a TT 5.5) for the price of what the new ZR1 will be after dealer mark ups.
hey,video quality not good!!!!!!! just joking nice video and tech,never think about air straighteners!!! always learning something new keep the video coming love them
Good lord are those turbines under the rear fender lol wtf.. might want to “re-engineer “ that man. I respect the build tho
For what reason?
It’s inefficient. Turbos should be closer to the engine bay and headers. Intercoolers allow for most boost. Rear mounted has neither.
Also rear mounted is exposed to the elements, which leads to corrosion.
@@TheWalletSource the engine is in the back.. the turbos are literally a foot from the intercooler. It’s about as efficient as it gets my friend
this car can manage due to its torque, however it’s still less efficient. The laws of thermodynamics do not change.
I’m not sure what kind of cam he’s adding but if it’s top end, then it may not help as much out the hole.
The ZR1 has turbos in the engine bay for a reason. You should only spot turbos out the back as a last resort. If you’re a grudge racer you will understand that every edge matters. I like seeing variety though it’s still a sweet build
@@TheWalletSource lol yeah ok
Why the Dodson Sportsman clutch over the Superstock?
I believe this client has plans to add power in the future so instead of having to pull the clutch and build it again when that times come we decided to future proof!
-Ryan
@@ryanwright4786exactly the plan
@@ryanwright4786 more power is coming.
This sounds better than new zr1
When you mod a car the only people that win are the people youre writing the checks too. If you have a c8 z51, Buy a Z06. If you have a Z06 wait for the Zr1.
Well there is a world wide BILLION dollar industry that likes to express themselves and thinks you are wrong. However like you there are many that are content getting fed only what a manufacturer wants to give you. And for you and those people that is awesome.... I say at least you are enjoying moderately performing vehicles that are built for the masses and targeted to the lowest common denominator. Technically you could easily take your statement to the next level and say "When you buy a performance car the only people winning are the manufacture" because it certainly isn't an appreciating asset.
Be blessed and we appreciate your opinion, all be it different than ours.
P.S. Don't forget to vote... or do
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Brrrpppppp
These things don't run well,The transmission slips and shifts weird. Traps are low too
Well I think you just said two different things. They do run very well, but you are correct that I wish the clutches shifted more firm. That’s all in the TCU clutch pressure logic which we will have access to soon. However the C700 the clutches hold well.
I also agree that trap speeds aren’t up to par for the power but most people don’t build a TT C8 to drag race… if you do then I would say there are better platforms at the moment.
However saying they don’t run well is false, driving a C700 car daily is an absolute blast!
Appreciate your comment
It's all in the tune. You have to turn down the torque from 3 to 4th. Had mine tuned by lingenfelter and have tracked it. If you're not going to track it don't worry about it just keep a reader plugged in and clear the faults when they pop up. Throttle control goes a long way with this tcm
@@nicklovely6431 yeah it’s easy to make them slower and make them work
What a stupid place for the ECU to sit.
I know you don’t think a basic sting ray with turbos is better than a zr1??!?!? Will you replace the motor when it fails??? NOPE! You will say you will but figure out a way not to replace
Are all the internal parts upgraded just like GM did with their twin turbo? I wouldn't let that thing spin more than 8,000 RPMs just like they did too
Nobody wants an imitation zr1. The stingray to me sounds horrible even with an exhaust.