Does a Gen 4 SSD in x2 mode match a Gen 3 SSD in x4? Freeing up a couple of PCIe lanes could be pretty useful. Similarly, running a video card in Gen4x8 instead of Gen3x16 would free up a bunch of PCIe lanes.
It certainly should, the problem you will run into is motherboard configuration. Most boards are hard wired to only provide certain lanes to certain slots, so running your top m.2 in x2 instead of x4 would be a waste as there is no way to make use of those other lanes.
Maybe do a video on which motherboards you can absolutely confirm support Gen 4 SSD's since I have an MSI MPG X570 Gaming Edge WiFi and it tells me in the Bios 'NOT SUPPORTED'
Just built a new (what was going to be a Zen 3 5900x, damn scalpers) system on an X570. Had to temporarily settle for a 3600xt. Bought a Saberent Rocket gen 4-1tb for my boot drive, and an Enmotus 1.6tb Fuzedrive to mate with a 6tb mechanical drive for data/storage. Once the supply lines are there I intend to purchase a 5900x, and a Big Navi. But even with the older 3600xt/1080ti it is one screaming gaming PC. Do I need all this extra speed now? Short answer is no. But my thought has always been to buy the best you can afford at the time. Case in point my previous system was an old sandy bridge i73770k. I finally saw the benefit in upgrading from my old i7-3770K system. It has been stable all these years at 4.5ghz, and with a 1080ti, 4k gaming was quite doable. The extra money spent now allows you to put off upgrades for a longer period of time. If it is a matter of money, at least get the best MOBO/CPU/RAM for now, the GPU/storage is an easy upgrade later.
I have a third gen NVME SSD and it's fast in doing a lot of things but most things I don't see any difference from the SATA III DSD. Game load times are barely any faster too. It's not very noticable.
Most likely just the way games are optimized to work well on today's (aka yesterday's) hardware, not everything is being loaded by the fast ssd becaues the game hasn't set itself up to allow that. You can also make a slight comparison to manually generated reflections and lighting vs realtime raytracing. At a glance, and with basic raytracing implementation, it may not look much better/more real than the manually generated scenes, because those scenes were so carefully developed to simulate real global illumination but at a fraction of the graphics card performance. Then you turn raytracing on and see a massive penalty in framerates, but not much of an improvement in apparent visual impact. However, in some games like Minecraft which isn't natively trying to mimic raytracing, you see a massive improvement in visual quality of the game when you switch on rtx or custom shaders. So similar to Minecraft as an example, when the gaming industry moves on to make games that can actually utilize the faster potential speeds of gen 4 NVMe drives -instead of optimizing for lower speed drives, you will see a similar improvement overall. But for now, when all games are made for last gen hardware, we naturally can't see much of a difference.
Hi man 👋. I had a question about gpu riser cables and wanted to know if they are going to hurt my performance. I enjoyed your video man it was very detailed 👌. Keep up the good work
@@Amirul_Zahin the 970 is expensive af and only really has a performance gain over other drives in sequential read, which in real life use will pretty much never happen anyways...
hands down if your a video editor only get gen 4 drives. don't waste your time with anything slower the faster the better if your edit in 4k 6k or higher.
@@thegr8rambino for games you can get the cheapest ssd doesn't really matter with games. high speed ssds that are 2000mbps to 5000mbps are for video editors.
It's still not a massive difference. Only some really VFX heavy workloads can see a benefit from having NVME cache storage so for most people, myself included, HDD/Sata SSD is plenty.
@@Amirul_Zahin MLC will serve longer, but everything depends on the usage scenario. If u're an average user with no super heavy disk load scenarios (= endless read/write activity 24/7), then MLC will be 100% fine.
Hi there. I heard gen six is great but they don't deliver it to the Mars L4 orbital region so I can't get it delivered to my space station. I'm off to the Oort cloud for a fifteen year mining expedition soon next week... then I'll have no chance. If only the borg didn't kill all the space pirates :(
Moving from HDD to SATA SSD, biiig difference and you are going to notice it right away. Moving from SATA SSD to Gen 3 NVMe, still quite noticable, from Gen 3 to Gen 4, tiny bit so...
I literally just got one from eBay for £120. My current M.2 is SATA based so a gen3 would have been fine. This is why I shouldn't be allowed my own money
Do I need gen 4 drive? No, of course not. Still didn't stop me from buying one.
@@wish3908 No regrets at all. Working great for me.
can u tell a difference at all?
@@g_pokesport9165 For most day to day use, no, but when Moving larges files to and from then yes.
They cost the same where I am at. I guess the prices dropped when they realized there's barely any improvement for gaming.
ha ha ha ha, me either. i feel like Tim the tool man Mo power, mo power.
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Does a Gen 4 SSD in x2 mode match a Gen 3 SSD in x4? Freeing up a couple of PCIe lanes could be pretty useful. Similarly, running a video card in Gen4x8 instead of Gen3x16 would free up a bunch of PCIe lanes.
It certainly should, the problem you will run into is motherboard configuration. Most boards are hard wired to only provide certain lanes to certain slots, so running your top m.2 in x2 instead of x4 would be a waste as there is no way to make use of those other lanes.
Right on my way to get 3 2tb gen4 SSDs,
Now that's a flex!
Maybe do a video on which motherboards you can absolutely confirm support Gen 4 SSD's since I have an MSI MPG X570 Gaming Edge WiFi and it tells me in the Bios 'NOT SUPPORTED'
Just built a new (what was going to be a Zen 3 5900x, damn scalpers) system on an X570. Had to temporarily settle for a 3600xt. Bought a Saberent Rocket gen 4-1tb for my boot drive, and an Enmotus 1.6tb Fuzedrive to mate with a 6tb mechanical drive for data/storage. Once the supply lines are there I intend to purchase a 5900x, and a Big Navi. But even with the older 3600xt/1080ti it is one screaming gaming PC. Do I need all this extra speed now? Short answer is no. But my thought has always been to buy the best you can afford at the time. Case in point my previous system was an old sandy bridge i73770k. I finally saw the benefit in upgrading from my old i7-3770K system. It has been stable all these years at 4.5ghz, and with a 1080ti, 4k gaming was quite doable. The extra money spent now allows you to put off upgrades for a longer period of time. If it is a matter of money, at least get the best MOBO/CPU/RAM for now, the GPU/storage is an easy upgrade later.
What about alternative uses? I heard they make a handy windscreen scraper...
That's one rather expensive windscreen scraper...
I have a third gen NVME SSD and it's fast in doing a lot of things but most things I don't see any difference from the SATA III DSD. Game load times are barely any faster too. It's not very noticable.
No we most definitely don't
So what’s the bottleneck for games since it’s not loading 50% faster as expected with a gen4
Most likely just the way games are optimized to work well on today's (aka yesterday's) hardware, not everything is being loaded by the fast ssd becaues the game hasn't set itself up to allow that.
You can also make a slight comparison to manually generated reflections and lighting vs realtime raytracing. At a glance, and with basic raytracing implementation, it may not look much better/more real than the manually generated scenes, because those scenes were so carefully developed to simulate real global illumination but at a fraction of the graphics card performance. Then you turn raytracing on and see a massive penalty in framerates, but not much of an improvement in apparent visual impact.
However, in some games like Minecraft which isn't natively trying to mimic raytracing, you see a massive improvement in visual quality of the game when you switch on rtx or custom shaders.
So similar to Minecraft as an example, when the gaming industry moves on to make games that can actually utilize the faster potential speeds of gen 4 NVMe drives -instead of optimizing for lower speed drives, you will see a similar improvement overall. But for now, when all games are made for last gen hardware, we naturally can't see much of a difference.
How would I tell if my motherboard is compatible with a Gen4 M.2???
Got myself a Sabrent 1tb gen 3 nvme on a b450 (PCI E 3.0) mobo so not thinking gen 4 would do much without also the added cost of a new mobo.
As with most PC parts, hardly anyone needs one. But that doesn't mean you can't want one...
Hi man 👋. I had a question about gpu riser cables and wanted to know if they are going to hurt my performance. I enjoyed your video man it was very detailed 👌. Keep up the good work
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i bought the gen 4 seagate firecuda 520 1tb its really good for 4k 6k and 8k video editing.
Really r5 raw
the 970 evo plus is enough for me
But 970 is much more pricier than gen 4 in my countries. So i had to save my wallet from screamin.
@@Amirul_Zahin the 970 is expensive af and only really has a performance gain over other drives in sequential read, which in real life use will pretty much never happen anyways...
hands down if your a video editor only get gen 4 drives. don't waste your time with anything slower the faster the better if your edit in 4k 6k or higher.
what about for games?
@@thegr8rambino for games you can get the cheapest ssd doesn't really matter with games. high speed ssds that are 2000mbps to 5000mbps are for video editors.
@@pkerry12 so if i get a gen 4 ssd will i notice any difference from gen 3? for games too?
@@thegr8rambino not in games you won't. Loading times will pretty much be similar if not the same. No matter what ssd you choose.
@@pkerry12 why?
What happens if my ssd is slower like my Samsung 850 1TB evo? For editing videos.
It's still not a massive difference. Only some really VFX heavy workloads can see a benefit from having NVME cache storage so for most people, myself included, HDD/Sata SSD is plenty.
TechteamGB thanks, bub.
Which one would u choose between these 970 pro(MLC V-NAND) vs gen 4(TLC 3D NAND)?
MLC if fits your budget. 3D is almost useless for consumer use.
@@hexensage196 so MLC is better than TLC? I'm talking about long term usage (5 years above). Please help me out
@@Amirul_Zahin MLC will serve longer, but everything depends on the usage scenario. If u're an average user with no super heavy disk load scenarios (= endless read/write activity 24/7), then MLC will be 100% fine.
@@hexensage196 thnx for ur feedback. So i just order 970 pro. Thnx again
@@Amirul_Zahin U're welcome!
Hp notebook i3 processor 4th gen, main ssd support karegi ??
Misleading review. I am getting 7gbs read speeds on Samsung gen4 in AMD system.
I got b550 gen 4 4tb ssd with 3400g
Hi there. I heard gen six is great but they don't deliver it to the Mars L4 orbital region so I can't get it delivered to my space station. I'm off to the Oort cloud for a fifteen year mining expedition soon next week... then I'll have no chance. If only the borg didn't kill all the space pirates :(
Sir can i ask, auros x570 pro wifi support by ssd gen 4?
Yes it does - I have one and it works just fine
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will pcie 4.0 nvme works in every b450 mb
No most definitely no
It will only work as pcie gen 3 due to them being backward compatible but b450 doesnt support pcie 4.0.
Nope
Requir ment
PCIE5 might be something but until then ... nah.
Moving from HDD to SATA SSD, biiig difference and you are going to notice it right away. Moving from SATA SSD to Gen 3 NVMe, still quite noticable, from Gen 3 to Gen 4, tiny bit so...
Seed up
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I literally just got one from eBay for £120. My current M.2 is SATA based so a gen3 would have been fine. This is why I shouldn't be allowed my own money
Benchmarking a pcie 3and pcie 4 drive with one thread. Unsubscribe. Your numbers seem low for pcie 4 SSD.
FearTec controllers and pcb architecture do more than bus speed for real life applications
Different pcie4 SSD have different controllers and some have dram (better consistent hi speed) or dram_less. Apple is not orange?
does my laptop support ssd m2 4 generation?
HP OMEN Laptop - 17-cb1000ns
Product number : 2S764EA
can i buy sssd m2 Gen 4 for my laptop