That’s truly an insightful comment. - This story was told with the perspective of a search for Justice and grief over the loss of a promising young life. God bless Lisa and her family
20+ years after DNA testing became widespread, it is long past the time for the statute of limitations (in countries and states that have one) to be abolished for rape and other sexual assaults.
@@rwentfordable Today, yes, it's stupid, but until as recently as the 1970's most serious crimes against the person were prosecuted based on eye witness testimony, alibis, and implied time lines. After 20 years most of such evidence would be highly questionable. DNA has no such loss in evidentiary value due to the passage of time.
It’s 3 or 4 years in some states so if a person is drugged or didn’t recognize the person or is too embarrassed or sick to get help in time the rapists go free.
I live in Ireland but we watched Unsolved Mysteries which was shown on British TV. I remember seeing this case being broadcast in the early-mid 90s and finding it very depressing because Lisa was such a loving person. I'm so happy that justice was finally served for her and her family. As always, you shine a light on the victim's life and the pain that their loss leave behind - a very befitting tribute to Lisa and her loved ones.
Had he felt truly guilty and considered turning himself in, he would have never refused to submit his DNA.That psuedo apology is just the result of him being cornered.He knew they were coming to get him.He just wanted to evade the trial.Glad he was sent to prison.Also how amazing of her parents to donate to the school she was teaching at.Their dedication and persevarance is impeccable.R.I.P beautiful girl!
There shouldn't be a statue of limitations on Sexual Assault. Anyone who rapes, should never be let off the hook because they didn't get caught in the first 7 years after they committed the crime. Ridiculous law!
Yep, especially when thousands of rape kits in storage units have gone untested for years after the report was filed. The lack of funding & effort to follow thru with these investigations seems to imply how little they care about the safety & wellbeing of women.
I clicked to indicate I agree with you; however, you should the original rationale for the statute of limitations. Years after the crime, the defendant may be unable to locate to locate exculpatory witnesses. This is is important because DNA results may be misused, misinterpreted, or even ignored by the prosecution. As an example, one prosecutor didn't tell the jury that there were several people in CA alone who could have the DNA profile. It turned out that the first man convicted was not the perpetrator and another man was ultimately found to be the perpetrator.
lisa was my teacher. she was a amazing person with a huge heart. she loved her students so much. i can remember the last thing she said to me. " behave and do your homework". she would always give us hugs before and after class. she wasnt only a teacher she was a friend. i think of her often and am happy she finally got her justice. yes he is in prison for life but it doesnt bring her back. i hate him for what he did. he will never understand what he put her family, friends and students through. i use to have nightmares and was so afraid to go to school or be home alone. i hope he gets what he deserves in prison. to the ziegerts im happy you all got justice also. to miss ziegert i miss you.
It's good that you still have good memories of Lisa. Just see all the comments about Lisa she was an amazing person. Say a prayer for Lisa and she will be in your heart forever🙏🙏 .
@@sebastianelytron8450 she was murdered in 2003 and the police didn't even secure the crime scene and let neighbors go in and out and even let kids play in the sandbox where they found her body.
This coward could've been caught in 93' but because a woman drank and had relationship issues, she was dismissed. Moral of the story: Don't judge. Check all leads.
His wife probably drank and had relationship issues because she knew about his problems and she suspected him of doing something terrible. What would it do to a person to realize their partner did something like that. You would wonder what was wrong with you, that such a person would end up with you.
Apparently this wasn't even close to the only situation of this kind. It's possible that they didn't go further with many of these caes because they lacked sufficient resources.
@@wikipediaintellectual7088 that's a fair possibility...but some of us are quick to judge, assume, and stereotype. When national media gets involved in a case it seems like there's time and resources.
😭. Even in death she is a Shinning Star. Like when she lived! Women registered for self-defense. Women registered for firearms. Employers became aware NOBODY should close a business by themselves!. Change occurred bc of Lisa's Life being taken long before it ever should have . She was here to accomplish a mission & she no doubt saved others! So she died,like she lived!❤️ Not everyone here changes history. Lisa sure did!🌟🌟🌟 Standing applause to her Mother! Standing applause to the detectives that worked "18hrs." a day to bring her killer to justice. Yes Lisa your presence was AMAZING on ALL levels!❤️❤️❤️
Yes you bring up plausible changes, still with all of my heart I think these changes are wrong. We need to bring up our sons in a different way. The world should be safe, period.
MarieShivje I understand your point. But for me I see it a bit differently. I truly believe a woman does need to know how to defend herself. Only because even the best raised child can still do a horrible act. It should be up to us to protect ourselves. Sometimes people are just evil. It doesn’t matter how they were raised. Again, this is just my opinion - I greatly respect your opinion as well.
@@TammieBuckeye I wholeheartedly agree with you too. I love to travel and hike on my own, and although I'm 6ft (which I consider to be a little advantage here), I still take precautions because it's necessary.
@@TammieBuckeye Yes, well, if you are working in a shop and someone grabs you and holds a knife to your throat, it is still hard to defend yourself no matter what you have learnt.
I'm a guy and I hated that. The one store I worked at the lights in the parking lot did not come on plunging it into darkness. I locked the door when a car was just hanging around in the parking lot.
I believe every late night worker should be provided with a stun gunat at the very least. A gun and gun training would be even better. But for their bosses, maximum profits are the goal, not the safety of their employees. So many lives could be saved if not for the greed of their employers.
I remember listening to Dave Ramsey on the radio and a guy called in who was going to school and working nights as a gas station clerk. Ramsey told him to flip his schedule, get a lawnmower and do yard work in the day and go to school at night. The reason being he'd be his own boss and get business experience, the clerk job was a dead end job and at some point he was going to get a gun shoved in his face. Never forgot that one.
Hearing that Lisa would pull into a parking lot to dance to a song playing on the radio... man, that is so humanizing. Thank you for presenting her as a human being who had a personality, quirks, and aspirations; not just a victim of a horrific crime.
I'm originally from Western MA and was 17 when this happened. I remember the fear we all felt. She was taken while at her job and the killer was still out there. I also started carrying mace when I was a bit older (18/19) I haven't lived in MA for many years but I have checked for updates on this case over the years and was so relieved when they finally got him.
Same - I was around that age then too in that town and a bunch of us took self defense after that happened. I don’t live there anymore either but I always checked for updates. So glad they got him; she was such a great person and her family is amazing
I don't know because there are so many unsolved cases like the Zodiac, the man who murdered the Black Dahlia, and countless others. I am hoping though, as technology advances more cases that are super cold will be solved. There are so many sick and twisted people in our world.
I agree completely. Sad how people delight in malicious gossip. Women are blamed most of time, but I've met men who are exactly the same. The old saying is true: If you can't say something nice, say nothing. It would have helped in this case and reduced some of the pain to the living.
A bunch of jaded women actually used this poor girl's murder just to get revenge on a cheating husband or bf???? Every one of them should be doing some actual jail time for pulling some bs like that. Interfering with a murder investigation should carry some heavy penalty. It would be a hell a of deterrent for future idiots that would consider doing the same thing. They should also pay the bill for all the time wasted investigating their nonsense.
@@TXPeter calm the fuck down Peter... these women weren’t all “jaded” as you’re implying. Many women truly thought their exes could have been responsible. And time and time again law enforcement ignored these women’s claims because of people like you. In nearly every serial killer case the wife of the killer usually suspects something and have even reached out to police, just like in this case. And in other cases like Bundys for example. You’re the one who sounds a bit jaded... who hurt you? My lord....
I remember when you started people would always complain about your voice and now look at you. You’re the best in my opinion due to your thorough research and your voice has improved dramatically.
@@thegameruprising9787 I call bs. What if the person is just walking in admitting? What if a videotape is found? What if fingerprints? As if the evidence of murder doesn’t erode
@@vsratoslava listen, I know you don't understand this becuase you're not capable of thinking a few steps beyond this issue. Not every rape case results in a confession by the perpetrator; very few cases result in a confession actually. It might not seem like this to you becuase you watch true crime videos where they present selected cases that are the most dramatic and tend to have more confessions in them. Also, if someone was going to confess to a rape, it would provably happen within the statute of limitations unless it was say a deathbed confession or something which wouldn't matter anyway. After a certain amount of time, evidence can erode, witnesses that can confirm someones alibi can die, witnesses can die, someones testimony can be forgotten. All of these factors increase the chance that an innocent person will be convicted of rape which should obviously be avoided and is why the statute of limitations is a good thing.
@@thegameruprising9787 now you STFU (I knew the man is talking before I saw the name) - first off: you should drop that tone, second: only 2% of REPORTS are being false (in russia only 10% of the cases get to the court, and so that’s a 2% of 10%), And third: ALL OF THOSE THINGS CAN HAPPEN DURING A MURDER INVESTIGATION, no?
She resembled Rebecca Schaefer, the young, murdered actress who starred in the sit-com “My Sister Sam” with Pam Dawber, and who was murdered after answering her door to a crazed fan. It’s so sad when young, innocent people lose their lives to anything, let alone murder. May this lovely soul Rest In Peace.
Yes, she did resemble Rebecca Schaefer. I never understood why Rebecca went to the door. She had good people looking out for her. Pam Dawber and Mark Harmon.
Yes. Loved that show when I was a kid and could never understand why it was abruptly cancelled. Didn't find out about her murder until years later. Sad.
Yes. Loved that show when I was a kid and could never understand why it was abruptly cancelled. Didn't find out about her murder until years later. Sad.
In no way do I wish to insult the narrator. The content is well researched but I have a hard time listening to it. I wish she'd take some voice training. 🌺
@@brookswade5774 You missed my point. Isn't it a shame that shere politeness won't allow us getting and receiving advice that would help us improve? I wouldn't comment on something that can't be helped. In this case a few vocal lessons would suffice.
As a retired psychiatric technician/med nurse who worked in maximum security forensic psychiatric facilities with Sexually Violent Predators and Serial Killers/mass murderers these cases get me. Now that DNA SOLVES these cases my heart becomes healed.
I'm glad, as the Dad of a 15 yr old girl myself, this man finally faced a Judge, but, the Death Penalty was made for cases like this, he lives, she's dead forever! We MUST have deterrence!
I remember this so vividly I lived in Massachusetts at the time. But moved in 1999 to Idaho. I’m so glad to hear that her killer was finally found and prosecuted. I remember how upset and scared as a woman I was at the time. I traveled to Boston for work from western Massachusetts and was always Leary from that day forward. Thank you!! For this conclusion to the story. ♥️♥️♥️♥️
Yeah they could have run a thorough check on him basing on his wife's suspicion.Sad they considered her statement unreliable from the get-go just because she had mental health related issues.
I grew up in that area. Her eyes were cut out as well when she was found by the man walking his dog. So dont let him fool u he's was a sick SOB and to think that was his only victim would be terribly NIEVE!
What a tragic story. I feel the family did amazing work honoring her memory with building the library, getting a science lab, etc. It probably helped them feel connected to her in its' own way.
RIP Lisa, I didn't know you but my heartbreaks for what happened to you and what you went through, im so very sorry, you deserved the amazing life that you should have lived. You may be gone but you're not forgotten ❤❤❤❤❤
Oh my goodness, this so made my evening, certain cases I’ve always thought, one piece of evidence or someone to say something will solve it, beautiful , talented, loved, and most important innocent ,was one of the cases that stuck in my mind😥This upload was presented absolutely beautiful, per usual, but an extra big thumbs up for your work, 👍🏻thank you ever so much, from Florida be safe all✌🏻😷
Same! Im from Agawam as well and was her neighbor, I still remember the police going to the Ziegerts house on Easter to tell them they found her. It was awful!
This is crazy! I'm on my lunch break at that very hospital where they found his car. I almost choked on my food whenever she said the name. I was working here that night. Not that I have anything to add to the story but, how strange I randomly clicked on this video. No?
If the police had questioned his wife thoroughly at the time they would have saved a lot of INNOCENT people years of grief. No one should be kissing their butts when they were so close at the beginning and threw/filed it away. Who knows if he really stopped at 1 victim, or was she the only one found, because she was the biggest risk he took?
One of the many reasons I love this channel is because you don’t use ridiculous and annoying stock photos and videos. That stuff is so unnecessary and insulting. When a story is well-researched and produced, it’s not necessary!
I love your voice it’s so magnetic in the stories that you tell I know how hard it must be to put one of these videos together myself and your fans appreciate it Thank you
i don’t feel bad for him. he got to live out his life after cutting another short. He was trying to avoid responsibility regardless of the written confession. i’m glad they got his butt in the end.
SO tragic. Such a nice person. The part about the sister bringing the maid of honor flowers to her grave almost had me in tears. What a piece of shit. I would really liked to have helped him out with his "attempted suicide". It's clear to me that he was leaving bread crumbs his lawyer could use in trying to gain sympathy with the court during sentencing with his oh so contrite confession. And another note apologizing to whoever would find his body (yeah right) and the note to the family (potentially mitigating victim's impact statement). Then driving himself to the ER too funny. He was in cockroach survival mode. It was simply his next move - the only one he had left - after having successfully dodged DNA tests or 25 years. Anyone who thinks he is anything other than than a cold killer is a fool. Nah, somebody should've stepped on that cockroach when the lights finally went on and he scurried for the corner.. Finally I wonder why the police didn't follow him in secret and obtain DNA from a discarded whatever at a bowling alley or anywhere - as many other police departments have done to great success.
I must say that the way you approach these cases are very considerate of the victims and their families. I can't recall any other channel I watch that does this as consistently as you do. Thank you!
What an amazing job! Not only are you a great narrator with a soothing voice… but you do such in depth research on less known cases which cannot be easy. You’re also incredible respectful of the victims. You’re fast becoming one of my favorite True Crime channels on here.
She did more for her community in her young life than many do in a lifetime. She was a bright star & there's no telling what else she could have accomplished. I hope dude meant what he said about being sorry so that he truly suffers every day for the rest of his life. As someone who has lost loved one's I can not imagine the torment these families go through. I'm glad they have closure and hope they find peace. Thank you for the update ❤✌
I absolutely love that you included the bit about pulling over to dance. Not every missing or murdered person, but I have frequently noticed that some seem to be trying to get every bit of joy they can out of life. It is as if they have some sense that their lives will be short. The other thing I have noticed is that many have phobias about the way they ultimately die. Weird.
They should have followed him around and gotten a cup, cigarettes, or something with his DNA. That should have happened right after he would not give it.
Evidence taken illegally isn’t allowed in court. However, a citizen can legally take it upon themselves to retrieve disregarded items, but the police cannot ask them to.
Yes, because she rung her sister a few days after the murder and told her that her husband had come home very late that night with lots of scratches all over him and was agitated. And that he had bought her a music box from the very gift store that the victim worked in that very night!! If the police bothered to interview her sister, they also would have found out that her sister had told her that her husband "could not have sex unless he was in control and held a knife to her neck". Makes you wonder why her sister did not go to the police herself and tell them all the information that her sister had told her, especially about the state of her husband on the night of the murder, and that he had bought that music box from the very store the victim worked in that night. Such a missed opportunity to solve the case years earlier!
You did an outstanding job investigating and delivering this case. You are the most thorough person on TH-cam. Thank you for all your work and the respectful care you take on behalf of the victims. I've been a subscriber for a while and thought I should send a compliment because you definitely deserve it.
That black and white picture in the thumbnail definitely looks exactly like Rebecca Schaeffer (I think that was her name) the girl that was killed by her stalker that was on my sister Sam in the 80s.
Whoever invented statue of limitations should rot in hell as well with those who committed heinous crimes. I can never understand how criminals can never be put to justice because of that stupid law. Wtf???
Once again I am stunned by the level of care and attention you put into fully illustrating what the victims of these crimes were like as people outside of the horrific things that happened to them. Never have I seen a piece of true crime media humanize the people they were discussing the way you do. I recommend your channel to everyone I meet who is interested in true crime. I truly feel that the way you cover these stories is the way of the future for the true crime genre: victim-focused work based in empathy and humanization that brings attention to these cases that are so often overlooked. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for your hard work and dedication.
OMG!! Are you all just friends of the narrator? Her voice is so annoying and I have as yet to hear the "compassion" you friends are describing. Seriously?
@@justiceforall3889 No, I don't know her. Different people enjoy different things. If you don't like her videos you don't have to watch them. Are you twelve?
Lisa looked strikingly like me when I was younger. It's really disconcerting to see her pics and know she came to such a violent end. May her soul rest in peace.
Compassionate? Nah! She sounds as if she's reading from a prewritten paper about this case. She will never come close to sounding as good as Keith Morrison and Bill Kurtis. It was literally boring me to tears.
Its about time the statute of limitations was at least updated, if not abolished, to keep in line with the DNA capabilities now days. A horrendous crime is still a crime, however long ago it was committed.
Poor girl, i feel sorry for her family and those who were falsely accused. As for the man words are cheap if he was sorry, he would have come forward without the excuse of cloning.
It is kind of rare to see this person expressing seeming remorse and describing the struggle with the pull of the compulsion. I've been sickened seeing footage of other killers who smirk, look blank, and exude utter arrogance and indifference:( I am so curious as to what psychological or physiological differences would account for this... (By no means am I saying I think this person is less guilty, but I was struck by the difference in demeanor) It was so sad to hear of all the changes that occurred afterwards - the purchasing of gun permits, mace, and pepper spray; signing up for martial arts instructions, parents not letting their girls work, people being walked to their cars, etc. He not only killed this beautiful young woman full of light, but he killed the sense of safety and normalcy.
Omgosh this happened just over the river from me. I remember it clear as day. Such a shame to have a life taken way too soon. I'm glad there's finally closure.
I've heard a few stories about customers coming into gas stations, convenience stores, etc and they found no one there because, it turns out, the clerk was kidnapped or murdered. I think about this when I'm on a road trip and make a stop and don't see the clerk right away. (Convenience store clerk is one of the most dangerous professions)
I remember this case back from the unsolved mysteries TV show back in 93! I was 11 years old, And living in Central America, that is how far this case went. I saw it a couple of times through the years. I am 39 years old now and finally I know the truth of what happened. This case stuck with me for some reason, Thank you for the video.
It's sickening to hear that during the investigation for Lisa's murderer, many women "turned in" their husbands or boyfriends as a means of getting back at them for some perceived misdemeanor - infidelity, violence against them, custody issues, etc. That someone could use Lisa's death as a scare tactic against their husband or boyfriend, knowing that he was not involved, just as a means of getting him listed as a potential murderer and have to go through the investigations, interviews, finding witnesses to confirm his alibi, etc., is disgusting. Murder isn't a game to "play" in order to get someone into a world of trouble, it is a colossal, inexcusable waste of police time, and a waste of time and resources in finding the true criminal. I feel nothing but endless sorrow for Lisa's family, friends, students, employers, and all who came in contact with her. There seems to be 100% consensus that Lisa was one of those rarely found human beings who are loved by everyone she came in contact with; she clearly had much to offer the world, and would have made a remarkable wife and mother herself. I wish I had known her.
The statute of limitations should never expire on murder, rape, or child molestation. It sometimes takes victims years to come to terms with it.
I'd never heard of statue of limitations in criminal law. It's insane.
It sure is!!!
There is no statute of limitations on murder.
agreed. those are crimes against humanity.
There's no statute of limitations on murder, and victims aren't around to come to terms with it.
Lisa sounded like a vivacious and caring young woman . Thank you for humanizing the victims , their stories and lives still matter .
It's so tragic we need to come up with a Psychopath deterrent device that causes fatal seizures moments before the commencement of the crime. 😁💥
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God will handle him....
That’s truly an insightful comment. - This story was told with the perspective of a search for Justice and grief over the loss of a promising young life.
God bless Lisa and her family
@Denise Cass I’m sorry you lost your friend …
20+ years after DNA testing became widespread, it is long past the time for the statute of limitations (in countries and states that have one) to be abolished for rape and other sexual assaults.
I never knew there was statue of limitations for criminal law. It's so stupid.
@@rwentfordable Today, yes, it's stupid, but until as recently as the 1970's most serious crimes against the person were prosecuted based on eye witness testimony, alibis, and implied time lines. After 20 years most of such evidence would be highly questionable. DNA has no such loss in evidentiary value due to the passage of time.
So many high-value people taken out by utter pieces of worthless shit. Abolishing the statute is the least we can do.
It’s 3 or 4 years in some states so if a person is drugged or didn’t recognize the person or is too embarrassed or sick to get help in time the rapists go free.
Why allow your closure to hang upon others yes it will be hard not knowing but waiting years saying when caught is wrong too
I live in Ireland but we watched Unsolved Mysteries which was shown on British TV. I remember seeing this case being broadcast in the early-mid 90s and finding it very depressing because Lisa was such a loving person. I'm so happy that justice was finally served for her and her family. As always, you shine a light on the victim's life and the pain that their loss leave behind - a very befitting tribute to Lisa and her loved ones.
I just forwarded this to my cousin. Her daughter was in the episode you mentioned. She was the little blonde girl with glasses, Lisa was her teacher😢.
Had he felt truly guilty and considered turning himself in, he would have never refused to submit his DNA.That psuedo apology is just the result of him being cornered.He knew they were coming to get him.He just wanted to evade the trial.Glad he was sent to prison.Also how amazing of her parents to donate to the school she was teaching at.Their dedication and persevarance is impeccable.R.I.P beautiful girl!
Wow, well spoken!
@@reginaphalange4182 I like your name
@@Dasboot1992 Oh, Thank You! Likewise.
Not wanting to submit dna doesn’t make you guilty.. not in the slightest
@@raeee5947 i like your name reeeeeee!
I grew up right next door to the Ziegerts. This is the 1st time I've ever seen anyone cover Lisa's case. Thank you so much!
There shouldn't be a statue of limitations on Sexual Assault. Anyone who rapes, should never be let off the hook because they didn't get caught in the first 7 years after they committed the crime. Ridiculous law!
Especially if it's the motive for the murder and kidnap
Yep, especially when thousands of rape kits in storage units have gone untested for years after the report was filed. The lack of funding & effort to follow thru with these investigations seems to imply how little they care about the safety & wellbeing of women.
It’s meant for the family to get closure. Also, to declare the person dead.
I clicked to indicate I agree with you; however, you should the original rationale for the statute of limitations. Years after the crime, the defendant may be unable to locate to locate exculpatory witnesses. This is is important because DNA results may be misused, misinterpreted, or even ignored by the prosecution. As an example, one prosecutor didn't tell the jury that there were several people in CA alone who could have the DNA profile. It turned out that the first man convicted was not the perpetrator and another man was ultimately found to be the perpetrator.
Too hard to prosecute
lisa was my teacher. she was a amazing person with a huge heart. she loved her students so much. i can remember the last thing she said to me. " behave and do your homework". she would always give us hugs before and after class. she wasnt only a teacher she was a friend. i think of her often and am happy she finally got her justice. yes he is in prison for life but it doesnt bring her back. i hate him for what he did. he will never understand what he put her family, friends and students through. i use to have nightmares and was so afraid to go to school or be home alone. i hope he gets what he deserves in prison. to the ziegerts im happy you all got justice also. to miss ziegert i miss you.
It's good that you still have good memories of Lisa. Just see all the comments about Lisa she was an amazing person.
Say a prayer for Lisa and she will be in your heart forever🙏🙏 .
I hope my classmate's unsolved murder will be solved one day like this cold case. Rip Natalie Clark
I hope so too. My heart is with her family and friends!
Maybe tell us a bit more? (RIP)
@@sebastianelytron8450 she was murdered in 2003 and the police didn't even secure the crime scene and let neighbors go in and out and even let kids play in the sandbox where they found her body.
Prayer to you 🙏
@@personincognito3989 www.theaugustapress.com/murders-unsolved-in-augusta-natalie-clark-a-family-affair/
Nothing is more worthless than an apology when you're caught.
This coward could've been caught in 93' but because a woman drank and had relationship issues, she was dismissed.
Moral of the story: Don't judge. Check all leads.
His wife probably drank and had relationship issues because she knew about his problems and she suspected him of doing something terrible. What would it do to a person to realize their partner did something like that. You would wonder what was wrong with you, that such a person would end up with you.
Right? Thanks, wife’s friends. You derailed a rape and murder case.
Apparently this wasn't even close to the only situation of this kind. It's possible that they didn't go further with many of these caes because they lacked sufficient resources.
@@wikipediaintellectual7088 that's a fair possibility...but some of us are quick to judge, assume, and stereotype. When national media gets involved in a case it seems like there's time and resources.
@@anarizmoore
I wouldn't be so sure about that. Where would these resources come from?
😭. Even in death she is a Shinning Star. Like when she lived! Women registered for self-defense. Women registered for firearms. Employers became aware NOBODY should close a business by themselves!. Change occurred bc of Lisa's Life being taken long before it ever should have . She was here to accomplish a mission & she no doubt saved others! So she died,like she lived!❤️ Not everyone here changes history. Lisa sure did!🌟🌟🌟
Standing applause to her Mother! Standing applause to the detectives that worked "18hrs." a day to bring her killer to justice.
Yes Lisa your presence was AMAZING on ALL levels!❤️❤️❤️
And applause for you for bringing up a point I totally didn’t see.
Yes you bring up plausible changes, still with all of my heart I think these changes are wrong. We need to bring up our sons in a different way. The world should be safe, period.
MarieShivje I understand your point. But for me I see it a bit differently. I truly believe a woman does need to know how to defend herself. Only because even the best raised child can still do a horrible act. It should be up to us to protect ourselves. Sometimes people are just evil. It doesn’t matter how they were raised. Again, this is just my opinion - I greatly respect your opinion as well.
@@TammieBuckeye I wholeheartedly agree with you too. I love to travel and hike on my own, and although I'm 6ft (which I consider to be a little advantage here), I still take precautions because it's necessary.
@@TammieBuckeye Yes, well, if you are working in a shop and someone grabs you and holds a knife to your throat, it is still hard to defend yourself no matter what you have learnt.
Single clerk shifts: Big mistake. All these killers need is an opportunity. Never give them one.
I'm a guy and I hated that. The one store I worked at the lights in the parking lot did not come on plunging it into darkness. I locked the door when a car was just hanging around in the parking lot.
I believe every late night worker should be provided with a stun gunat at the very least. A gun and gun training would be even better. But for their bosses, maximum profits are the goal, not the safety of their employees. So many lives could be saved if not for the greed of their employers.
I remember listening to Dave Ramsey on the radio and a guy called in who was going to school and working nights as a gas station clerk.
Ramsey told him to flip his schedule, get a lawnmower and do yard work in the day and go to school at night. The reason being he'd be his own boss and get business experience, the clerk job was a dead end job and at some point he was going to get a gun shoved in his face.
Never forgot that one.
When I was growing up we were told to never take a job where you are working alone or at night. And that was in the 70s.
@@rebeccarayburncooper7062 some stores ate located in developments where the mall owner, not the store owner, decides the hours.
He tried to kill himself by overdosing in Motrin, dude was too coward to even kill himself right
He was a punk!
Yes, but his headache was gone.
That was another trick of his that spelled doom!
Well Said and 100% Truth!!
Right! I laughed at that.
Motrin? Really?
Might as well try and overdose on Flintstone Vitamins 😂
Thank you for updating this case. The world lost a beautiful soul.
Hearing that Lisa would pull into a parking lot to dance to a song playing on the radio... man, that is so humanizing. Thank you for presenting her as a human being who had a personality, quirks, and aspirations; not just a victim of a horrific crime.
I'm originally from Western MA and was 17 when this happened. I remember the fear we all felt. She was taken while at her job and the killer was still out there. I also started carrying mace when I was a bit older (18/19) I haven't lived in MA for many years but I have checked for updates on this case over the years and was so relieved when they finally got him.
Same - I was around that age then too in that town and a bunch of us took self defense after that happened. I don’t live there anymore either but I always checked for updates. So glad they got him; she was such a great person and her family is amazing
Finally Lisa's killer has been held accountable. Lisa's family too have closure. Karma always comes to those who do wrong 🙏♥️💯
I don't know because there are so many unsolved cases like the Zodiac, the man who murdered the Black Dahlia, and countless others. I am hoping though, as technology advances more cases that are super cold will be solved. There are so many sick and twisted people in our world.
Sadly not always, but it will come from the Most High. They will pay for it.
@@justtruth5855 very true!!
@@justtruth5855 Too true my friend.
Many criminals died on these case files or other shows before justice was served.....many got away with it...
WOW the amount of gossip really hindered this case. Just goes to show people spreading LIES adds to the tragedy the poor family lives through.
I agree completely. Sad how people delight in malicious gossip. Women are blamed most of time, but I've met men who are exactly the same. The old saying is true: If you can't say something nice, say nothing. It would have helped in this case and reduced some of the pain to the living.
A bunch of jaded women actually used this poor girl's murder just to get revenge on a cheating husband or bf???? Every one of them should be doing some actual jail time for pulling some bs like that. Interfering with a murder investigation should carry some heavy penalty. It would be a hell a of deterrent for future idiots that would consider doing the same thing. They should also pay the bill for all the time wasted investigating their nonsense.
Gossip again! It causes so much damage to precious life.
@@TXPeter calm the fuck down Peter... these women weren’t all “jaded” as you’re implying. Many women truly thought their exes could have been responsible. And time and time again law enforcement ignored these women’s claims because of people like you. In nearly every serial killer case the wife of the killer usually suspects something and have even reached out to police, just like in this case. And in other cases like Bundys for example. You’re the one who sounds a bit jaded... who hurt you? My lord....
I was 12 when this happened in my town. The rumors were out of control for years.
I remember when you started people would always complain about your voice and now look at you.
You’re the best in my opinion due to your thorough research and your voice has improved dramatically.
Some people are vile.Her voice is lovely.She is an empathic person.no idea what she looks she looks like, and i don’t care.
Sorry i misread.Yes she is doing brilliantly.Nothing about looks x
You can't please everyone 🥺. People will complain regardless 🙂
I love your enunciation and your voice! You are always very informative and put together interesting subjects.
So strange , I adore her voice
One of the best channels on TH-cam! Thank you for covering this case in such a sensitive way. RIP Lisa
I don’t get why the statute limitation on rape even exists...
If it didn't, the prisons would be overflowing
It exsists becuase evidence can erode and become unreliable over time.
@@thegameruprising9787 I call bs. What if the person is just walking in admitting? What if a videotape is found? What if fingerprints? As if the evidence of murder doesn’t erode
@@vsratoslava listen, I know you don't understand this becuase you're not capable of thinking a few steps beyond this issue. Not every rape case results in a confession by the perpetrator; very few cases result in a confession actually. It might not seem like this to you becuase you watch true crime videos where they present selected cases that are the most dramatic and tend to have more confessions in them. Also, if someone was going to confess to a rape, it would provably happen within the statute of limitations unless it was say a deathbed confession or something which wouldn't matter anyway. After a certain amount of time, evidence can erode, witnesses that can confirm someones alibi can die, witnesses can die, someones testimony can be forgotten. All of these factors increase the chance that an innocent person will be convicted of rape which should obviously be avoided and is why the statute of limitations is a good thing.
@@thegameruprising9787 now you STFU (I knew the man is talking before I saw the name) - first off: you should drop that tone, second: only 2% of REPORTS are being false (in russia only 10% of the cases get to the court, and so that’s a 2% of 10%), And third: ALL OF THOSE THINGS CAN HAPPEN DURING A MURDER INVESTIGATION, no?
She resembled Rebecca Schaefer, the young, murdered actress who starred in the sit-com “My Sister Sam” with Pam Dawber, and who was murdered after answering her door to a crazed fan. It’s so sad when young, innocent people lose their lives to anything, let alone murder. May this lovely soul Rest In Peace.
I was thinking the same thing they could pass as sisters almost
Yes, she did resemble Rebecca Schaefer. I never understood why Rebecca went to the door. She had good people looking out for her. Pam Dawber and Mark Harmon.
That’s exactly who she resembles. It was driving me crazy. I couldn’t put my finger on it. Thanks!
Yes. Loved that show when I was a kid and could never understand why it was abruptly cancelled. Didn't find out about her murder until years later. Sad.
Yes. Loved that show when I was a kid and could never understand why it was abruptly cancelled. Didn't find out about her murder until years later. Sad.
You are one of the BEST narrators on TH-cam. Unpretentious, no fake voices, accents or dialects. Great job!
In no way do I wish to insult the narrator. The content is well researched but I have a hard time listening to it. I wish she'd take some voice training. 🌺
@@barbarama You gotta be shitting me? Pardon the forward approach but please.
@@barbarama I had to clear my throat listening to her voice from time to time! 😁
@@brookswade5774 You missed my point. Isn't it a shame that shere politeness won't allow us getting and receiving advice that would help us improve?
I wouldn't comment on something that can't be helped. In this case a few vocal lessons would suffice.
@@barbarama I did miss your point. I thought it was one of the best on TH-cam. If you don’t, it just shows how different we actually are.
As a retired psychiatric technician/med nurse who worked in maximum security forensic psychiatric facilities with Sexually Violent Predators and Serial Killers/mass murderers these cases get me. Now that DNA SOLVES these cases my heart becomes healed.
I'm glad, as the Dad of a 15 yr old girl myself, this man finally faced a Judge, but, the Death Penalty was made for cases like this, he lives, she's dead forever! We MUST have deterrence!
All states need to repeal statutes of limitations for rape. No matter how long, victims deserve justice.
I remember this so vividly I lived in Massachusetts at the time. But moved in 1999 to Idaho. I’m so glad to hear that her killer was finally found and prosecuted. I remember how upset and scared as a woman I was at the time. I traveled to Boston for work from western Massachusetts and was always Leary from that day forward. Thank you!! For this conclusion to the story. ♥️♥️♥️♥️
Thank you so much for covering this; I’m from her town and it was so horrible, she was such a great person
Thank you casefiles girl , very well done as always .
Just cuz she crazy, don’t mean she is wrong. They should have gotten them a. The minute he refused, they should have tried for a warrant.
She probably had alcohol issues because of him. I don’t blame her.
Look how well being called crazy works these days. Any kind of common sense or morality is labeled this way and swiftly canceled.
@@RG-rl6hj yeah and she practically laid the case for warrant in her divorce papers.
Yeah they could have run a thorough check on him basing on his wife's suspicion.Sad they considered her statement unreliable from the get-go just because she had mental health related issues.
Having a mental illness doesn't mean you're "crazy". Please stop saying this.
I grew up in that area. Her eyes were cut out as well when she was found by the man walking his dog. So dont let him fool u he's was a sick SOB and to think that was his only victim would be terribly NIEVE!
Oh my gahd
He's afraid of cloning? Dude, nobody wants to duplicate you, you have looked in the mirror and seen the same monster everyone else sees, right?
It's just an excuse, but I gotta hand it to him it's a winner.
What a tragic story. I feel the family did amazing work honoring her memory with building the library, getting a science lab, etc. It probably helped them feel connected to her in its' own way.
RIP Lisa, I didn't know you but my heartbreaks for what happened to you and what you went through, im so very sorry, you deserved the amazing life that you should have lived. You may be gone but you're not forgotten ❤❤❤❤❤
Excellent work. You have such quality and tact and the perfect voice and speed.
Poor girl, such a bright young woman.
Love the work. Thanks!
I'm happy her case was solved
Yes and now justice has been served!
He used Motrin to over-dose?? This dude, is beyond pathetic and a true example of a coward. May Lisa, her family, and her close friends, be at peace.
It's heartening to see a case where the police actually did almost everything right and were determined to find Lisa's killer. RIP Lisa.
I find your voice pleasant and you have great enunciation. Your stories are well put together. I'm so glad I subscribed!
Oh my goodness, this so made my evening, certain cases I’ve always thought, one piece of evidence or someone to say something will solve it, beautiful , talented, loved, and most important innocent ,was one of the cases that stuck in my mind😥This upload was presented absolutely beautiful, per usual, but an extra big thumbs up for your work, 👍🏻thank you ever so much, from Florida be safe all✌🏻😷
He had no intention of killing himself. Ibuprofen and drove himself to the hospital?...
Yes, if you are serious, use a gun!
I have to say im impressed how they guarded up after her death. That shows that they actually care for girls and women in town.
Lisa's loved ones were robbed of so much. Hope they can find some measure of peace now.
A higher power will judge him
Look out look out Parabon Nano Labs is coming for you!
Lisa looks so much like Rebecca Shaeffer in those black and white photos especially the beautiful thick curly hair.
Omg I was thinking the same thing..
Yes, she sure does
Yeah...and we all know how THAT worked out!!!
I grew up in Agawam and everyone knew about this case. So glad it’s finally solved!
Same! Im from Agawam as well and was her neighbor, I still remember the police going to the Ziegerts house on Easter to tell them they found her. It was awful!
This is crazy! I'm on my lunch break at that very hospital where they found his car. I almost choked on my food whenever she said the name.
I was working here that night. Not that I have anything to add to the story but, how strange I randomly clicked on this video. No?
Love all the work. Thank you so much for keeping us entertained even more so during this pandemic.
If the police had questioned his wife thoroughly at the time they would have saved a lot of INNOCENT people years of grief. No one should be kissing their butts when they were so close at the beginning and threw/filed it away. Who knows if he really stopped at 1 victim, or was she the only one found, because she was the biggest risk he took?
What a terrible loss of a beautiful soul. 😪
Very glad to see that the family has gotten answers after all this time. RIP Lisa. 🙏💜🙏
One of the many reasons I love this channel is because you don’t use ridiculous and annoying stock photos and videos.
That stuff is so unnecessary and insulting. When a story is well-researched and produced, it’s not necessary!
I love your voice it’s so magnetic in the stories that you tell I know how hard it must be to put one of these videos together myself and your fans appreciate it Thank you
i don’t feel bad for him. he got to live out his life after cutting another short. He was trying to avoid responsibility regardless of the written confession. i’m glad they got his butt in the end.
SO tragic. Such a nice person. The part about the sister bringing the maid of honor flowers to her grave almost had me in tears. What a piece of shit. I would really liked to have helped him out with his "attempted suicide". It's clear to me that he was leaving bread crumbs his lawyer could use in trying to gain sympathy with the court during sentencing with his oh so contrite confession. And another note apologizing to whoever would find his body (yeah right) and the note to the family (potentially mitigating victim's impact statement). Then driving himself to the ER too funny. He was in cockroach survival mode. It was simply his next move - the only one he had left - after having successfully dodged DNA tests or 25 years. Anyone who thinks he is anything other than than a cold killer is a fool. Nah, somebody should've stepped on that cockroach when the lights finally went on and he scurried for the corner.. Finally I wonder why the police didn't follow him in secret and obtain DNA from a discarded whatever at a bowling alley or anywhere - as many other police departments have done to great success.
P.S. How can aggravated rape have a statute of limitations?
I’m not so sure this was the only time he assaulted or killed someone...
Do you know him? I'm from agawam
@@angelobrignoli Thankfully no, I don’t know this guy.
They need to look at him if there’s other cases.
"Events spun out of control" You were the only one in control!!
I must say that the way you approach these cases are very considerate of the victims and their families. I can't recall any other channel I watch that does this as consistently as you do. Thank you!
Outstanding work this channel does: detailed, concise, accurate. Add to that soothing narration and background music. Thank you!
What an amazing job! Not only are you a great narrator with a soothing voice… but you do such in depth research on less known cases which cannot be easy. You’re also incredible respectful of the victims. You’re fast becoming one of my favorite True Crime channels on here.
Excellent channel, thank you.
I love all the content you cover but especially the solved cases.
Really? Give me an unsolved case any day for me, preferably with a bunch of theories
@@sebastianelytron8450 I’d take a case where a family has closure and justice any day of the week. That may be where we differ.
What a story and so well told...you never disappoint with your videos...so detailed and respectful....
She did more for her community in her young life than many do in a lifetime. She was a bright star & there's no telling what else she could have accomplished.
I hope dude meant what he said about being sorry so that he truly suffers every day for the rest of his life. As someone who has lost loved one's I can not imagine the torment these families go through. I'm glad they have closure and hope they find peace. Thank you for the update ❤✌
He didn't mean it and that's for sure! He just wanted the jury to go easy on him.
I absolutely love that you included the bit about pulling over to dance. Not every missing or murdered person, but I have frequently noticed that some seem to be trying to get every bit of joy they can out of life. It is as if they have some sense that their lives will be short. The other thing I have noticed is that many have phobias about the way they ultimately die. Weird.
Rape should absolutely NOT have a statute of limitation.
May Lisa rest in everlasting peace ✝️.
They should have followed him around and gotten a cup, cigarettes, or something with his DNA. That should have happened right after he would not give it.
Evidence taken illegally isn’t allowed in court. However, a citizen can legally take it upon themselves to retrieve disregarded items, but the police cannot ask them to.
Even if the tip come from a questionable source, it still needs to be taken very seriously. Because this was the case hear with this situation.
Yes, because she rung her sister a few days after the murder and told her that her husband had come home very late that night with lots of scratches all over him and was agitated. And that he had bought her a music box from the very gift store that the victim worked in that very night!!
If the police bothered to interview her sister, they also would have found out that her sister had told her that her husband "could not have sex unless he was in control and held a knife to her neck".
Makes you wonder why her sister did not go to the police herself and tell them all the information that her sister had told her, especially about the state of her husband on the night of the murder, and that he had bought that music box from the very store the victim worked in that night.
Such a missed opportunity to solve the case years earlier!
You did an outstanding job investigating and delivering this case. You are the most thorough person on TH-cam. Thank you for all your work and the respectful care you take on behalf of the victims.
I've been a subscriber for a while and thought I should send a compliment because you definitely deserve it.
This is solid, top-echelon work. And I’m glad you mentioned the class and respect the narrator shows the victim and her family.
That black and white picture in the thumbnail definitely looks exactly like Rebecca Schaeffer (I think that was her name) the girl that was killed by her stalker that was on my sister Sam in the 80s.
Oh yeah! I remember My Sister Sam. You're spot on & can see the resemblance.
I thought the same thing.
The piano music with this voice is literally the PERFECT combination
RIP Lisa & Thank You for sharing 😊
Whoever invented statue of limitations should rot in hell as well with those who committed heinous crimes. I can never understand how criminals can never be put to justice because of that stupid law. Wtf???
Once again I am stunned by the level of care and attention you put into fully illustrating what the victims of these crimes were like as people outside of the horrific things that happened to them. Never have I seen a piece of true crime media humanize the people they were discussing the way you do. I recommend your channel to everyone I meet who is interested in true crime. I truly feel that the way you cover these stories is the way of the future for the true crime genre: victim-focused work based in empathy and humanization that brings attention to these cases that are so often overlooked. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for your hard work and dedication.
OMG!! Are you all just friends of the narrator? Her voice is so annoying and I have as yet to hear the "compassion" you friends are describing. Seriously?
@@justiceforall3889 No, I don't know her. Different people enjoy different things. If you don't like her videos you don't have to watch them. Are you twelve?
You can tell she was a beautiful soul may she Rest In Peace God bless her soul.
Lisa looked strikingly like me when I was younger. It's really disconcerting to see her pics and know she came to such a violent end. May her soul rest in peace.
Your voice is so compassionate.
Compassionate? Nah! She sounds as if she's reading from a prewritten paper about this case. She will never come close to sounding as good as Keith Morrison and Bill Kurtis. It was literally boring me to tears.
@@justiceforall3889 👎
@@BurchMike1 LOL!! Look at your big crybaby tears. 🖕
@@justiceforall3889 thank you!. I appreciate the work she does but her voice, god. I can't listen to it.
Thank you for this upload 🙏
Thank you for the upload. Very sad for her family.
This video was so beautifully done. God bless the family
One of these days I shall actually listen to her before leaving a like... never had to take the like back, though!
He tried to overdose on Motrin? 🙄🙄
oh jeez he had how many years to plan a suicide and he went with motrin?
What Is motrin?
@@meriananizer ibuprofin..advil
@@heatherlouise814 thanks
Its about time the statute of limitations was at least updated, if not abolished, to keep in line with the DNA capabilities now days. A horrendous crime is still a crime, however long ago it was committed.
I love your videos. Full of such content it's amazing. Thank you. What a sick, sick man.
Live 5 mins away from where this happened, so sad, but I’m glad to hear she is finally getting justice.
Do you remember it well?
Poor girl, i feel sorry for her family and those who were falsely accused. As for the man words are cheap if he was sorry, he would have come forward without the excuse of cloning.
You took words out of my mouth! He was never sorry for the murder.He just pretended he was to save his sorry ass.
It is kind of rare to see this person expressing seeming remorse and describing the struggle with the pull of the compulsion. I've been sickened seeing footage of other killers who smirk, look blank, and exude utter arrogance and indifference:( I am so curious as to what psychological or physiological differences would account for this... (By no means am I saying I think this person is less guilty, but I was struck by the difference in demeanor) It was so sad to hear of all the changes that occurred afterwards - the purchasing of gun permits, mace, and pepper spray; signing up for martial arts instructions, parents not letting their girls work, people being walked to their cars, etc. He not only killed this beautiful young woman full of light, but he killed the sense of safety and normalcy.
Omgosh this happened just over the river from me. I remember it clear as day. Such a shame to have a life taken way too soon. I'm glad there's finally closure.
I can see why he feared cloning. Society clamors for people like him, RIGHT? What a doofus.
You did such a phenomenal job with this one! Bravo!!!💖💖💖💖💖
I've heard a few stories about customers coming into gas stations, convenience stores, etc and they found no one there because, it turns out, the clerk was kidnapped or murdered. I think about this when I'm on a road trip and make a stop and don't see the clerk right away. (Convenience store clerk is one of the most dangerous professions)
I remember this case back from the unsolved mysteries TV show back in 93! I was 11 years old, And living in Central America, that is how far this case went. I saw it a couple of times through the years. I am 39 years old now and finally I know the truth of what happened. This case stuck with me for some reason, Thank you for the video.
It's sickening to hear that during the investigation for Lisa's murderer, many women "turned in" their husbands or boyfriends as a means of getting back at them for some perceived misdemeanor - infidelity, violence against them, custody issues, etc. That someone could use Lisa's death as a scare tactic against their husband or boyfriend, knowing that he was not involved, just as a means of getting him listed as a potential murderer and have to go through the investigations, interviews, finding witnesses to confirm his alibi, etc., is disgusting. Murder isn't a game to "play" in order to get someone into a world of trouble, it is a colossal, inexcusable waste of police time, and a waste of time and resources in finding the true criminal. I feel nothing but endless sorrow for Lisa's family, friends, students, employers, and all who came in contact with her. There seems to be 100% consensus that Lisa was one of those rarely found human beings who are loved by everyone she came in contact with; she clearly had much to offer the world, and would have made a remarkable wife and mother herself. I wish I had known her.
Needed to hear about a solved case today. Thanks, HC!
Again, I love the humanity of this storytelling. You really dignify these people.
You are a very good story teller. I enjoyed the video very much .
Love it when they catch em with plenty of life left.