the oldest case solved with genetic genealogy (as of july 2021) | patricia kalitzke & duane bogle
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- patti kalitzke and duane bogle were young and in love at the beginning of 1956 when their lives were taken from them. the case went cold, but DNA evidence ultimately was discovered, and the case was finally solved after decades. in 2021, after more than 65 years, authorities were finally able to close their case. as of july 2021, it is the oldest cold case to be closed using genetic genealogy.
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Hats off to Kenneth Gould’s children for submitting their DNA, knowing it might reveal something terrible about their father. That takes guts.
But no hats off to them for not submitting any photos of their dad. The guy lived until 2007, why is the only image available of him from 1959?
@@sebastianelytron8450 Maybe they weren’t asked?
My dad passed in 2006, & I’m only able to provide one photo of him. And I believe it to be from 1979.
@@sebastianelytron8450 If I were a murderer, I would do what I could to not be in any pictures.
They may have suspected him already. This is the type of crime that is very likely repeated and chances are he abused his family.
@@sebastianelytron8450 we have maybe 5 pictures of my dad. He was the one taking pictures. It happens.
My friend does genealogy research to help solve unsolved crimes and I’m very proud of the work she does.
It has changed lives literally ...and she's a huge part of this change! To her I say a big THANK U!
Remarkable that a medical examiner in 1956 would have the foresight to collect evidence that could be used 60 years later. Just remarkable.
They knew then that one day they will succeed in finding our blood differences ....although they used ABO typing then.....
Evidence, in cold cases, is always kept. So, don't think you could get away with a crime.
I attended Texas Tech University when James Bogle, the brother of Duane, was a professor of guitar there in the early 1980's. I was a music major in the Tech Music Department then. I never knew about this case or his family's tragic history. This is so incredibly sad. How James Bogle was able to move on and have a good life with purpose after such a horrible way to lose his brother is amazing to me.
it's nice to find another red raider! i'm currently at the texas tech health sciences center. this case was very interesting and sad, but i'm glad it was basically solved. it was surprising to hear the name of my school mentioned here, but i just hope that their families can find peace in the information and that the perpetrator's children can handle such information
@@hopejoons Nice to meet you, too. Professor Bogle was not my personal teacher as I didn't major on guitar. But I knew him and heard him play on recitals a few times while I was a student there. He always seemed like a really nice man. His students loved him. It wasn't until I saw this video that I found out that he died in recent years. Sadly...he didn't live long enough to see the case solved. BTW...I lived in the apartments directly across from Knapp Hall across University Blvd. I have no idea if those apartments are still there after all these years.
Since he moved after their murder, and then moved two more times after that, might be worth looking into if there were other disappearances/murders in the areas he lived in.
I definitely agree, and I think a lot of people that follow this story are thinking the same thing.
Good idea.
Yeah I don't think this was a one off, the guy lived for more than 50 years more after the murder & he essentially got away with it, even if he waited a couple of decades before striking again, I'd be surprised if he didn't.
Yep!
A very good point. After all who just rapes and kills once? I pray he didn’t but I’d say the odds are against them being the only ones.
Wow! 65 years, that's phenomenal.
No rest for the wicked, and no more hiding for these criminals.
Great job, nice to see you again HCF.
It’s so sad that her mother was literally holding on to get information on her daughter’s murderer. She passed thinking she had that information 🥺
as soon as she passed, she got to be with her beautiful daughter again. Plus, on the other side, she was able to discover the ultimate truth of the case, anyway.
she knows the truth now
I think even if it was wrong, she needed to hear it. She needed to have that bit of closure before she passed on. If there is an afterlife, she has the answer now, but as long as the question of “who did it” wasn’t haunting her so much any more, I find there is peace in that.
I'd heard about this case before. Heartbreaking. It's a shame the bastard died before justice would be served but I'm glad the families can finally have some closure.
My grandmother went completely gray after my uncle had been killed. She never said his name and would leave the room if someone mentioned him. I think it eventually killed her too.
that is so sad. I am so sorry
@@apseudonym Thank you. It was very sad.
@R Carpe Yes, but not from black hair to white in a month. My uncle was killed in September by October her hair was white. I have put pictures side by side from July of that year to October of the same year and she looked 20 years older.
@Dirty Magic11 Thank you! Yes it is. I do wish she had talked about it. It may have made a difference. Even during the murderer's trial she never said anything. She'd go into herself is the only way I can describe it.
@R Carpe Your empathy is touching.
I'm so glad they were finally able to put a name and a face to the bastard who did it, but my God how heartbreaking to hear that the sister who had lived through more than half a century of not knowing has dementia now.
More cases are going to be solved using this giving older cold cases a chance at justice. Unfortunately many will be dead, or elderly.
Great vid, and music is lovely as it is low and your voice at a great level.
@Rhonda Bothelio í,,lllm
@Rhonda Bothelio "They're dead"..
Not there dead!!
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I appreciate your calm and concerned tone of voice. Talking about such tragic stories...it feels you are very respectful of the people who have been unfortunately a part such a tragic story.
I was thinking the same. Good voice, no drama, respect of victims. She's good at this.
Yes definitely. Made me subscribe to the channel. Great voice.
Wtf it totally sounds like a robot, not a concerned human
@@teijaflink2226 maybe, maybe not... maybe she talks fast and they had to do a slower motion through the computer. Who knows 🤷🏻♀️
She has an ASMR voice
Kenneth Gould's children were very kind to submit their DNA in light of what they might hear. It's great DNA testing as evolved so far.
This is exactly why I clicked yes on my genealogy kit when it asks if you want to be in the database.
Yes, but you don't know for what other purposes they will use that information.
@@SunshineCatwoman I do, because I read things before agreeing to them.
@@DottieMinerva It's a DNA harvesting project. Makes no difference what you read or what boxes you tick or don't tick.
Makes no difference at all.
They put it in the data base regardless of what box you check...Don't be fooled...
I hike across the spot where Duane was killed and have for years prayed there would be closure. The information concerning could came out of "left field " in the midst of more probable suspects. Thank God for DNA technology and cooperation of Gould 's children. 🙏 RIP Patsy and Duane and everyone who loved them that have died without knowing the truth.
Kudos to the suspects children for standing up. That takes guts and decency
Excellent video. The sheriff who buys a polygraph with his own money, now that's dedication! 👍🏻
AMEN!😎
More stupidity really. Its scientifically proven that polygraph's are totally unreliable.
Thats why they aren't admissible in a court of law.
@@thevirus7368 you're missing the point
@@LilyS1031 ?
Well done. DNA testing continues to allow authorities to solve cases.
Right?! Now only if they could solve JonBenet’s case!
Good that they thought about saving evidence for the future.
Most of the family probably passed on after 65 years so it's a shame they couldn't do it to give family closure
Yet thousands of rape kits are still not tested
@@haumea420 It's not like John Ramsay can't afford it, so why hasn't he got this done? Good question 🤔
Thanks again casefiles girl , be well .
I wonder if there are other victims 🤔 rapist killers usually have more victims unless incarcerated
No doubt there are. And he got away with it.
That is very likely, unfortunately. I cannot believe that, as an adult, the murderer's first killing was of multiple victims. He did something like this before.
@@donprice9050 That’s very likely why he was cremated. He must have heard about DNA before he died!
This case is highly unusual, as sex offenders rarely stop their activity until caught or killed. That’s the reason for the registry
Wonder what else he did, before and after. He had almost 80 years of life.
That means that he already had committed a double murder and began moving around fifty years before he died. He probably did a lot of damage.
Right!! Seems like evil people usually live long lives.
the crazy thing is hes NEVER been arrested for any other crime in his life. what makes a man kill two people one time randomly and never do another crime in his life....
That is probably a book waiting to be written that convincingly links him to other murders. I'm sure there are one or two true crime authors looking into it gathering information and waiting on a piece of information that is going to trigger their own investigation. Have to wait and see.
Well I can tell you he wasn't a murderer when he was a baby or a toddler. If you're wondering what he did before and after cause he had 80 years, I'd say before that, he learned to walk and talk and eat hard foods, then he went to school, got a job, had some kids and a wife, after the murders, he moved around. So if he had almost 80 years, you can't possibly think he was doing bad stuff as a baby.
Patti was my mom's age. I cannot imagine something like that happening to her. God bless Patti & Duane's poor loved ones. A 65 yr old case being solved is a miracle.
I don’t know about everyone else, but I’m loving all these solved crimes due to DNA research. I also like that a lot of the Jane Does and John Does are being identified now too. I hope it will help these monsters think twice now before they commit these heinous crimes. Very difficult not to get caught now days.
I’m not sure the perpetrators think once, let alone twice. ☹️ But I’m glad we have the technology to find out what or who, even so many years later.
Unfortunately conviction rates for murder are still shoddy in most nations
It will never be solved but The boy in the box is one I would like to see a result on
I’ve noticed that there are very few serial killers in the last decade. In the 70’s and 80’s there were many happening at the same time. Since the rapid increase in advanced DNA analysis and so many people getting into the data base, and all the security cameras, almost impossible for these people t hide anymore.
@@brassy49er37 I think they’re out there…lurking and being VERY careful. I also think the police keep quiet about them because they don’t want panic . The public gets mad at the police when they can’t catch them in a timely manner.. They also don’t want the killers MO leaked to the press. I just watched a some videos about a man who checked into a hotel and gave a fake name. They found him dead on the beach a cupla days later. Never found out who he was or where he was from. I was yelling, do his DNA!
The narrator’s voice is so peaceful. I love this channel
Every solved case is a little miracle well done.
I couldn’t agree more, it’s truly incredible.
Please don’t do that. Implying there is a miracle means someone prayed for the killer to be found and they were. But in other cases , the same prayers are prayed for someone else and they are never answered. Miracles imply prayer to a God were answered. So does God love the person whose prayers are answered and does not love the other person whose prayers go unanswered? Stop looking for a formula. This was simply good fortune.
@@katyburns9758not a miracle but really good science.
So sad and heartbreaking two young people in love who had a full life ahead of them were taken by pure evil. I’m glad justice has finally been deserved after all these heartbreaking years.
Another very moving story that couldn't be told by anyone better. Your voice suits the subject so well.
Couldn't agree more! She does a great job between her research and actually telling the story.
This story just broke my heart. 💔
I wonder how many unsolved murders are essentially 'one-off' events by the perpetrator who has no obvious connection to the victim(s). I remember hearing that only a small percentage of murders are done by complete strangers and that these are the hardest to solve.
Those types of murders are hard to solve for a couple reasons. First is obviously no connection to the victim but in modern times it could even be that there is no body ever found or if a body is found the perpetrator left no DNA evidence behind (yeah i know that's hard to do but not nearly as hard as you would imagine depending on the manner of death.)
This man, Kenneth Gould, was probably not a complete stranger to Patti and her family. He lived only 1 mile away - their paths most likely crossed occasionally.
Its terrible that they lost their lives at such a young age, it hurts my heart for both families to have to bury their children. Nobody deserves to bury their babies. The officers and investigators from that time had all retired or passed away but keep the next generation informed on cold cases. They take their cases with them over the years and try to solve them long after they move on with life. My adopted dad was head of investigation at a police department starting in the 1970s and retired in 2003 or so. He said there is always that one case that sticks with you no matter how much time passes. He never talked about work, his time in the navy or the house fires, car accidents, and medical emergency cases he worked. In 1980 my dad founded a small fire station that started out of a old gas station and was Chief from 1980 to 2019. I looked up to him and in my eyes he was my hero. As I got older and got interested in cold cases it dawned on me how much my dad gave of himself to serve and protect the community we lived in. It was very hard for him to discuss the tragedy that surrounded him in his professional life. Those cases take emotional toll on the family and policeman that work the cases. I hope they all are resting in peace.
It's frightening to consider that by the laws of averages, it is possible that someone where I work, someone who I interact with probably has a dark secret that he is keeping hidden.
yes scary thought
Thanks to the family for giving their DNA hope all the families are doing well
Best thing that ever happened to humanity, DNA profiles. 🦋💜🦋
Lora Lee, I completely agree with you.
Don't worry, I'm sure somebody will find a way to abuse DNA profiles and ruin a good thing. People always do.
@@holocaust_2.0 there’s not really a way to do that if you’re using DNA honestly aside from planting evidence which isn’t a DNA exclusive thing tbh
Sounds like he’s done this before. Should look for similar cases that have happened where he has lived.
I love that a majority of this video focused on the victims.
HERE here!!!!!!!!!!
Love hearing that a cold case has been solved and that there are still family members alive to be somewhat comforted by it. The fact that the perpetrator's children agreed to DNA testing despite the outcome speaks highly of their characters. Thanks, HC.
I hope the murderer is burning in hell for robbing this couple of their lives and ruining the family members having a normal life. Murder stays with you forever.
He’s probably not…I mean the same God let him live for a very long time and I’m sure this wasn’t his first time killing. Who knows though.
No he found Jesus
And got saved he's
In heaven now do
You know Jesus
This proves there is no God
It proves there absolutely is 1 and in DNA crime solving HE has given us just a glimpse of why we can trust that Vengeance Is HIS & that HE Does Know Who is Guilty and of What. Our methods,tho advancing,are surely still primitive compared to Heaven's Infallibility. Thank GOD❤️🩹
Love how thoroughly you research and describe the cases and ppl involved, including all the suspects and victims. I appreciate all the pics and details.
Your voice is so warm and gentle, I wish I had a voice like you to make my videos.
Well presented and done with sincerity. Many thanks. RIP. Patricia, Duane 🙏
Absolutely amazing to be able to do this 65 years later!
All the videos are emotional but this one hits differently 😪thank you for sharing this with us!❤
It’s shocking how someone can dislike this video on a story such as this…
I've been waiting for this day I'm so happy to finally see it solved
Everyone deserves to be remembered, thankyou for you compassionate voiceover, never give up springs to mindx
Her “about to cry” voice really make the story more engaging
A sorrow too deep for tears.
Oh how I’ve missed you heavy case files. Reunited and it feels so good😂😂😂
I'm happy to hear many cases solved and families given answers. It bothers me he lived a full life even having a family which he took from this couple.
His children have a great outlook on helping authorities and conceding that no matter who. Everyone hides secrets...
Well done indeed to the detective teams who kept persisting in trying to solve cold cases, especially this one, and well done indeed to the children of the man named as the most likely person responsible for this most tragic murder mystery! That takes real bravery and humility, knowing the possibility that their father may have committed murder.
Now we know the who, but we'll never, ever know the why...
Yes. These are still better sweet. Lots of family that passed before they knew who or why.
@Rhonda Bothelio Obviously. His semen matched. It still doesn't answer why. Families always ask why even when it was sexually motivated.
there is usually no true motivation, at least not one that sane people can understand. the murderer saw these two and simply felt an urge to kill them. I do agree with the comment above, that it was sexually motivated. he would have sern these two canoodling in the car and decided to make it the worst and last night of their young lives.
Most likely because he was a sick and twisted sob.
@@seandelap6268 Most probable answer - very frustrated man.
I absolutely love your music and voice 💓
Patti was the same age as my mom. My mom's 16th birthday was the day after their murder January 3rd.
There seem to be noted loss of life near more families' birthdays...sad.
@@nancy-katharynmcgraw2669 That seems to be true. My mom is now deceased. That date always stands out to me.
@@nancy-katharynmcgraw2669 My mom died on her 68th birthday.
Though I know that more than 6 decades have passed, but I am so thankful that the families of Ms. Kalitzke and Mr. Boogles both can now rest easier knowing who killed their loved ones. I think that any family that must endure the nightmare of having a family member viciously taken from them, no matter how long it’s been, they must feel some relief in knowing that the PO did what they could to find the monster.
This channel is iconic!
Sheriff DJ Leeper purchased a polygraph machine out of his own money!!!!what dedication! indeed a wonderful man,certainly could set an example for the indifferent police in Bedford ,England!!
I cannot tell you how much your channel as I read the cases, story after story, help me believe that there is justice.
Great job preserving evidence.
It pisses me off that this sob is dead and got away with it.
Oh he didn’t get away with it! He answered to God!
@@kimberlyhackney8190 The same God that allowed him to live for so long and do the crime and who knows how many others.
He didn't get away with it, there is a God in heaven to whom all will give an accounting for deeds done in this life.
@@williammiller7662 I know but, being a father, it would be a long while for my anger to subside.I know children are a gift, and we, like Job, have no right to question God. But this wasn't God's doing, this was Satan having a hand in the outcome. What I guess I am trying to say is, that is there is justified anger sometimes.
Thank you for sharing the cold case file.
How awful. Can't imagine how scared the two kids must of been.
Thorough and soothing to know it is solved.
Sucks he lived so long. Hope he doesn’t rest! Condolences to the family and friends of Duane and Patricia. 🕊🙏🏾🕊💕
they never found out what the motive was. that is the key.
Propably a sex crime like most murders are as usually (he had raped her). I don't understand why so many men (almost everyone it seems) are so controlled by their tiny peens and only because they can't keep it in their pants they destroy the lives of whole families. Makes me so angry, all rapist and murderers should be castrated, their balls burned and never let out, show them a taste of what incredible pain they cause their victims and their families
Thank you. Nice music with your voice. Helps us to understand and hear the story better. Very glad they found out who may have done this crime.
This is a senseless act of depravity. You are a wonderful story teller!
I love your videos. Perfect companion for overnight shifts. Love the background music too.
Beautifully presented, thank you very much. So this is now the oldest previously unsolved case that has been closed thanks to genetic genealogy? I wonder how they crossed paths with the killer, maybe he came upon them on horseback while they were in the car and they didn’t hear him because the radio was on. Very sad story, you just never know what secrets some people have.
wow, you put that image in my mind so vividly. I can even imagine what music they were listening to as the killer walked up to the back of their car in the dark of night. terrifying
The killer in Texarkana in the 1940s and others stake out lovers lanes, I'm guessing he was lying in wait and if some other couple had got there instead they would be victimized
@@dwlopez57 true. Probably not his only victims either if that’s the case.
@@mjg263 most likely if he kept doing it he may have wised up and gone places not very close to his home. Of course, theres no way to know. He might have been so shaken by what he did that he never did it again. Who knows?
Thanks very much for this this channel is amazing.
RIP Patty and Duane and my sympathies to their families. So glad you spend much of the video speaking about the victims rather than the perpetrator.
I am so thankful on behalf of all victims everywhere that DNA and genealogy technology is bringing justice. Now, abolish statutes of limitations on rape and child molestation. DNA is as unchanged by time, as the pain if the victims.
I remember hearing this story firsthand as a child growing up in the church where Darlene goes. When I heard the news about the suspect finally being found, it made me angry that the sadistic monster wouldn't be punished for his crimes. The lingering question of why someone would destroy two young lives for some twisted motive infuriates me. To this day, I am cautious of ALL MEN and wonder how many sickos walk among us without being caught and punished.
Interesting side note about Darlene is that she is an artist and designed the image of Christ on the front of Missouri Synod Trinity Lutheran Church. Darlene was always a kind, gentle soul with a fun, quirky personality.
Wonder what triggered Gould to do it. He clearly never stopped running from it so he was clearly haunted by it. It's very rare for someone with absolutely zero criminal history to perpetrate such a horrific crime. Murder some random couple on the side of the road then kidnap & rape the girl only to kill her later. That's kinda serial killer behavior & out of sorts for someone like Gould
He no doubt had other victims over the years. These sorts of people slowly escalate from childhood
Just cause he was never caught doesn't mean there was no history
People commit crimes every day and aren’t caught. That means nothing that he didn’t have a record.
Only a fool would think this was his first time committing murder or his last.
There are some killers out there that should be looking over their shoulder. They are coming for you.
Glad these cases were solved. Gould got his eternal justice no doubt. I feel for his children. They did the right thing.
Yeah to all the killers who read these posts you may think no evidence will find you out but very few goes undetected for long they don't though.
So, most likely the killer killed Duane in front of Patti...imagine her trauma before he then violated & killed her💖💖🌹🌹
I'm in Great Falls and remember this blowing up. Absolutely crazy that they were finally able to close this case.
We still don’t know a motive, or if Gould killed other people and got away with it. I would like to find out more about that.
This is incredible and as sad as this was to happen I am so happy they are slowly being solved
Incredible story! Well done!!!
What a great video! Thank you for this one!
The nicest thing about dna is that it doesnt require the familys willingness to submit their dna...the truth through dna should haunt all evil-doers, including their families and all who want to protect or shield them....love it !!!!!!!!!!❤
This proves you can run but you can’t hide! My condolences to the family! May this sweet couple RIP. God bless and my prayers and thoughts are with both families!
Hello from Gold Coast Australia I love your channel and your voice what you do is so nice can't wait for the next one this is so sad no one deserves that May they both RIP 🙏❤🙏❤
Your voice is so comforting for the topics you cover. Hoping you upload more content more often🙏🏾
I love when you upload. I know this might sound weird, but I always listen to your videos before I go to sleep. Although the content is dark, your voice and the background music you use calms me. Thanks for such quality content.
Nice job. Thank you
Incredible, thank you. I enjoy listening to your telling of the case. It is amazing that Gould's children were raised unknowing and generous in contributing their DNA. I wonder what he did in his long life and whether he committed any other crimes.
Justice delayed is certainly justice denied. Defunding police is just going to prevent or at least delay further solves.
Love the content, love her voice i love everything about this fu%kin channel!
Totally agreed! I even go back to old episodes. She has an excellent voice for these kinds of videos, and the background music is always at a perfect volume level, the cases aren't ones that are covered by everyone, the research is top notch, just so many things great about this channel.
The use of an action verb is inappropriately used as an adjective. Wish English speakers would stop using this word, inappropriately!!!
When Watson and Crick elucidated the DNA chain they had no idea it would also lead to justice. But that’s where it lead. I think it also has protected innocent people from capital punishment.
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I am glad that these were solved. Echoing- hats off to Gould's children. Thank you HCF.
Somwhere I remeber hearing this , "We covet what we see." It seems to be no coincidence that the guy lived about a mile from Patti's house. Perhaps he'd even stalked her in the past.
I remember my parents talking about this case. We moved from Texas to Malstrom AFB in Greatfalls in January 1957, around the ONE year anniversary. I remember an aire of fear and worry that even a 6 year old could feel. So very sad their sweet lives were cut short. I too wonder what other crimes this man may have committed or was this a one time and done?
BRAVA!!! Genealogy archives serving as aid to cold case files aids?!?! Sign me up! I’m an ancestry researcher myself, and would love to have a job searching genes to close cold cases!
How does a parent go on day after day, year after year never knowing who killed their child and why? Such a sad case but glad that some questions were answered.
When you hear about this stuff you know there's a good chance the killer is dead and got away with it, that's why it was so relieving in the Golden State killer case. So frustrating when there's no justice. The worst part for me is always hearing about the father's pains.
So sad, but thank goodness it was solved finally
Thanks it helped me a lot in my case study assignment. ❤
How do people watch a very good channel like this with a satisfying outcome and thumbs down the hard work they put into narrating the video for our entertainment. I don't get the rationale of it....ever.
I’ve hit the down by accident, or people feel bad thumbing up a murder story. Thumb down also helps the algorithm the same as a thumb up
@@joanbaczek2575I've accidentally hit a thumbs down a few times, but it's easy enough to change back, hitting that thumbs down button a second time negates it.
Genealogical DNA is an amazing crime solving tool. When police approached the suspect's children, they were prob in their fifties/sixties and I wouldn't be surprised if there were little telltale clues about their father---such as conversations, personality traits, anger, etc---and how he talked about his time in Great Falls, Montana---that made it not surprising to them that their father would be a suspect.
I hate that the monster got to live a long life. How does a person live with themselves with something like that on their conscience? So glad for the technology we have now - and for the forethought of the law enforcement that decided to save all those samples..
Great job