Mary Jane was probably right in that the pastor was looking for her whenever he entered a room - so he could avoid her, her delusions, and her motor mouth.
To outlive a beloved child is a tragedy - to lose the child in an undeserved and senseless murder may be the greatest tragedy a parent can face. As a mother of two adult children, your well-researched and beautifully narrated video will haunt me for a long time.
Here! Here! My son was murdered over 6 years ago. I cannot be the same. Im glad this lady is where she belongs but it’s sickening she did not get a swift death penalty. . Poor parents. . I like this channel.
@@Watchoutforsnakez Terribly, terribly sorry your child was taken from you. I hope they have caught the bastard/s who did it. God bless you. I hope you have found some peace.🙏💔😪
Yeah I mean they couldn't care less! The least they could do is verify if his story was true or not which may lave led to Mary Jane being arrested or getting sent down to mental asylum.
I was shocked she got to live as long as she did considering what she was putting her inmates through. People have been killed in prison for way less, just sayin…
As a true crime fanatic, I always find it to be extremely frustrating when you know someone is guilty but it can’t be proven. I am so glad that Ronda’s case was brought to justice and I hope they find Mary Jane’s father someday.
I think most churches have a few people that are odd or strange, and have mental health problems it doesn’t translate into someone who is going to commit murder
Believe it or not, I've been in a similar situation. So many churches only care about how many butts are in the pews. More butts means more people paying tithes and donations. They'll hesitate to actually kick paying congregants out, even if they're a threat to others.
Mary is the only one responsible for killing Rhonda. Kicking her out of church would have made her even more angry & the outcome would still be the same.
Mary Jane not only killed Rhonda but her own father as well. Not to stop there she was probably a female serial killer. From the victim count area on her face it appears the tally to be at least 10. Previously mentioned was my opinion that Rhonda was murdered by someone she didn't know. She really didn't know Mary Jane, even though they attended the same church. Mary Jane is a paranoid schizophrenic. With homicidal tendencies. Her perception of reality was distorted, much like the system that accompanies schizophrenia. So some with schizophrenia are indeed violent. Despite reported claims by experts that schizophrenia is not a violent disorder.
@@lindaarrington9397 I didn't mean to imply that All people with schizophrenia are homicidal. What I meant to relay is that All murderers to some degree do have schizophrenia. Not individuals guilty of self defense or law enforcement officers that kill in the line of duty.(non corrupt, non schizophrenic police). My disclosure of my research isn't meant to vilify people with schizophrenia but to caution others of the potential danger the homicidal schizophrenics can display.
This case has always fascinated me. Mary Jane’s kindly, devout old lady persona was an act. I saw another show about Mary Jane that included audio of the messages she left the pastor and audio of her talking to police. In the messages to the pastor, she spoke in a high pitched, girly voice and just rambled about nothing. It was so embarrassing. A cop later said that during questioning, Mary Jane began denigrating the victim and bitched about people in the church helping her and how she “stole” the pastor away from her. That poor woman didn’t do anything except work at the church.
This is particularly scary for me as I was a stalked by a guy with mental health issues while working as a secretary at a church. Listening to this makes me feel like I was lucky that the guy wasn't particularly aggressive. But he did just kind of act like we -were- in a relationship and a majority of the church just kind of accepted that as fact despite the fact that vehemently denied it and asked the leadership to tell him to back off several times. It's really scary when your being harassed and your surrounded by people who either support it or don't care. I can sympathize with that pastor.
It has happened though. I can't remember the case names but a man did shoot himself twice but they had a hard time figuring that out and followed the case as a homicide for several weeks. They finally pieced together that he shot himself but he didn't die and was still fairly lucid in spit of a bullet in his brain. After blood being spread everywhere in the motel room room where he was staying, he finally shot himself again.
How could I not click with a title like that? Also, can we get a round of applause for the E.M.T.s who went out of their way to try to preserve the crime scene? Didn't know they did that.
I just found your channel after subscribing sometime ago. They hid you from my algorithm, and I don't know why as crime is all I listen to at night. I apologise, and I think it was rather crimereel, briefcase, or criminally listed that reminded me of you. I've been binging so much over the past week. Thank you for your hard work. The algorithm can go do a running jump. I go straight to you videos every night now ❤
She shot him when he went to get the newspaper and that's why his scent ends there at the end of driveway where she stuffed him into the trunk of her car. I can even imagine her cringing over the sound after.
Someone should really do a scientific study!! It’s kind of amazing just how many people, accused of a crime experience “blackouts” and they always seem to have happened exactly at the moment of the criminal act, but never beforehand or following said crime. Astonishing! Please note: I’m being sarcastic. You might want to read it using your own sarcastic voice…I’m pretty sure that we all have one. 🙂🐿
@@Ariadne76-k3d to be fair it can probably be traumatizing to commit an act like that so I can understand where certain blanks could be found in a person's story but the 'yeah i couldn't tell you if i did it cos i dont remember but uh yea i suppose it totally looks like i could have done it but you have to understand that i have no memory of it so i mean who knows you know' is really convenient.
@@thecaptainsnark If you are doing something horrible to somebody, of you own free will, you can just stop. So no,it is not traumatizing. Trauma occurs when something is done to us, or when we are forced to do something against our will. These idiots are imposing their will on others, getting off on it, then trying to pretend they are some kind of victims.
I really like the narrators voice. Very matter of fact and non-opinionated. She just keeps a very stable re-telling of events and history behind the involved people.
Mary Jane murdered Rhonda and is suspected of killing her father. Why am I the only one taking note of the fact her father specifically blamed Mary Jane for her mother dying. He was trying to stay tf away from her as much as possible too. Pastor couldn’t pray away Mary Jane; the church and Jesus wouldn’t and couldn’t fix it. Yikes. 😕
the wildest part about this story if you think about it is the fact that you'd think it would be your own mental health issues you struggle with that would get you killed but it was someone else's.
That Mary Jane is a real nut case. She even has that "kook" look on her face. I first heard of this case on the TV program called Snapped on the Oxygen channel but didn't get this much info. Thanks for your incisive deep dive on this story!
I set my heat, grabbed a blanket and enjoyed #heavycasefiles... I love your content, your details show your thorough investigation... loyal to your channel... keep up the good work!😊😊😊😊😊
Between the fact there was no gun found at the scene and the 2nd bullet went through her wrist as she attempted to defend herself investigators did some impressive hoop jumping to keep their suicide angle alive... Id say murder sounds just as if not more plausible than a suicide covered up by a friend/family member getting rid of the gun.... Sounds like some good old tunnel vision
Another very well-done video. Thank you for the work you do, and for always handling the material with professionalism. I'll keep passing your videos to my friends who listen to criminal investigations.
My understanding was this evil thing was in love with the pastor and also jealous cause some people helped Rhonda. What a piece off work. I didnt know some of this info.
The church refused to cooperate they must take responsibility also if they took the claims seriously that woman would most likely not have been murdered.
Very good point. They completely ignored Pastor shreeve’s complaints, and even after he told Mary he couldn’t be her pastor anymore she kept returning. He shoulda gotten a restraining order out, poor guy
Than you for your work. I am Roman Catholic in the Faith burying the dead is a corporal work of mercy. I believe in some way your endeavors of bringing some peace for the deceased and their families is akin to a merciful act.
Fasinating and so detailed....excellent video...thank you. Very sad for so many. No words can console the loss of such a loved one...Even before the story mentioned it I knew Mary Jane would love being in the prison system, she would probably feel "at home" there. Sighhh not really a punishment in this case.
What is most ironic and tragic about this story is that a woman with a psychotic disorder was targeted and killed by another woman with a psychotic disorder. Both suffered great bouts of delusion, but only one was a murderer💔
I can't believe YT just directed me to your channel today. Great research and narration. Interesting case for me as well as I don't live far from Bucks County. I've done some work there. Thank You ! You have a new subscriber
Thank you for sharing. Great details in this crime. I think most clergy overlook mental illnesses because it's just in their nature. The woman clearly had mental issues that needed addressing.
Crazy story with heavily added delusions and stalking!! Mary Jane was certainly a dangerous woman and I would not be surprised if she was behind his disappearance. I feel so bad for Brenda, her family and loved ones! She faced so many obstacles but she never gave up or lost hope. Living on her own and not wanting to be a burden on anyone. I am glad that Mary Jane was caught and served her time in prison.
This woman is completely abhorrent. And, apparently as ignorant as it’s possible to be. I only wish they’d found her father before she passed away. She deserved to have to tell the truth about what had become of her father.
Can’t believe you don’t have more subscribers. I’ve followed you for a while and you are amazing. Thorough but also not talking forever about things that’s not important to the case, respectful, easy to follow, and again, don’t spend 10 minutes talking about the victim’s grandfather if it’s not pertinent to the case. Also, you have a really great and soothing voice so I usually put on one of your videos I’ve already seen (obviously don’t want it to be a new one) to fall asleep to just because your voice is so good. You should have like a second channel doing sleep stories lol.
I had to pause the video for a moment when I heard that the case happened in Bucks County, Pa. I was born and raised here and never once heard of this case. So very sad for everyone involved though.
Ms. Fonder may well have already been a serial ki11er by the time she was arrested. Her father blamed her for her mother's death, then he disappeared one morning when Mary Jane claimed to have been at home with him, even though he had serious mobility issues, and could not drive. After that, a dead dog which had been given a lethal dose of her father's medicine was found in her freezer, so it seems that she might have experimented with prescription drugs to learn how to fatally dose her parent(s). She had been fired from at least one job for threatening a coworker.
I honestly don’t know why they didn’t use her mental health at her hearing. I didn’t go to it, so not 100% sure if the defense utilized that angle. She had a long history of mental issues. My mom, who was her aunt and looked just like her) said she was hospitalized in mental hospitals a few times. The thing is she was smart and creative, she was an excellent fine artist,never went to school for it. I myself am also a college educated fine artist. She was also sneaky and calculating, so I think they believed she was in her right mind at the time of the killing. She was in her right mind when she planned that killing, I’m guessing. She was trying to eliminate her rival, in her head, Rhonda Smith. My mother also had some odd jealousy issues. Anyway, yes , we all believe she killed her father, Ed, who was my uncle. He was such a sweet man, who was very intelligent and kind. He used to come visit us once a week and give us kids a quarter😀I’d like to know what happened to his remains, though. They have never been found😥
So first, the cops immediately jumping to a conclusion of suicide solely because Rhonda had Bipolar disorders clearly shows that they have NO idea of what Bipolar actually is. Bipolar is an emotional disorder that causes people to experience emotions at their most intense at all times. They don't have an emotional cooling off period. Second normally I have no respect for Christianity, especially the larger congregations like Catholicism, Protestant, Evangelical, Mormon or LDS for quite a few reasons I'm going to go into. I really like this pastor and how he runs his congregation. He and the vast majority of his members are down to earth good people. You have to respect good people.
YAY! A new one! I was checking last night thinking it was time. Hope your cat is doing well! (I remember he used to interrupt you while you were recording in your closet in the early days 🥰)
I don't have any doubts about the ballistics but pulling the gun powder rez. the way they did it and when they did it . I think if the supposed powder in her car was the only gun evidence she would have cause for an appeal, but they found so much more.
A seriously disturbed woman 😟 who I believe most probably did kill her father. I’m left wondering what kind of childhood she had 🤔 one more body and she’d be classed as a serial killer 😯 I feel for the prison inmates. There would be no escape from Mary’s constant talking 🙉 Rest in peace Rhonda 🥺💜💛💜💛💜🕊
Well done love the informative details you give and beautiful speaking voice ❤️ Prayers to Rhonda Family ❤️😔🙏🏽… And Jealousy and Envy is a disease people may not believe it but it is and it’s so sad this story makes you really think of how vindictive and hateful people can be right under you and you never know… one reason I’m the way I am …
Thank you for all the details on this case, Heavy Casefiles, along with the pictures. You do very good research to get all of the things we might need to know to draw our own conclusions. ( You don't convey a lot of judgement.) I feel almost as if I was there. I also really like your voice.
The first video I've watched on this site. Very impressed at the detailed research you have obviously done. Thank you for a tragic but interesting case file.
Rhonda fought so hard to have an independent life despite her mental health challenges only to become the obsession of this nutball. Too many thought Mary Jane was just a dotty old lady instead of seeing her behavior as stalking.
She definitely murdered him, she was schizophrenic and I had witnessed her behavior first hand , because she was my mom’s niece ( I was adopted, so no relationship). I was not surprised she did this.
@@phresh62 she was schizophrenic, would scream at her brother for no reason , and she would sit at our house and clearly was hearing voices. She would sit there shaking her head. It was scary. She would just pop over our house with no warning. We started to hide in the basement. One time she thought we were home and she was sitting in the bench in front of my house, crying and and stayed out there for more than an hour. She had her deceased dog frozen in her freezer. When we would visit, reluctantly, we would not eat any thing at her house, it was beyond filthy. Ughhhh!
@CarolynHenry1231 Oh wow thank you for replying and your insight on her. She definitely sounded out of touch with reality. Do you know why they didn't use her mental health issues as a defense in her trial? Either way I guess it's good that she was locked up for the rest of her life as she was dangerous. Do you believe she killed her father too?
Thanks for making this available. Being morbidly all too familiar with this case, I would point out only one factual error: It was ten days (on a Sunday), not three, before she was killed (on a Wednesday), when Rhonda publicly thanked her fellow worshipers for their generosity. Too bad that Mary Jane never learned to manage personal demons to the extent that her victim Rhonda had indeed learned. A wasted opportunity for a good friendship too.
Rhonda never allegedly murdered her own father nor s*** harassed any pastors, so NO these two were NOT on the same level “personal demon” wise and couldn’t have been FRIENDS
@@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim Huh? Who said Rhonda was guilty of anything? As far as friends, the Fonder woman was given CHOICES in life. She chose badly & with cruelty, That's all
Goodness, reading about all that church drama sounds almost made up, but I can confirm that stuff goes on all the time. So sad this woman took it to the extreme.😢
One place besides ones home that should be sacred. Is a church, Temple, Synagogue. Etc. Theft, assault and murder should be taboo. Mary Jane was clearly delusional and disturbed. While she thought of herself as important and should have been included in everything. She was just another member of her church. Her emotions and jealously about the pastor would have culminated in hate against any woman she thought a rival. Sadly she was so bull headed she didn't realize this man did not want her. Rather its pure fantasy and she lived in an imaginary world. Unfortunately her fantasy crossed the line into reality. Amazing what love and pure obsession can do.
Mary Jane was probably right in that the pastor was looking for her whenever he entered a room - so he could avoid her, her delusions, and her motor mouth.
To outlive a beloved child is a tragedy - to lose the child in an undeserved and senseless murder may be the greatest tragedy a parent can face. As a mother of two adult children, your well-researched and beautifully narrated video will haunt me for a long time.
Well said!
No better compliment.
Amen💔
Here! Here! My son was murdered over 6 years ago. I cannot be the same. Im glad this lady is where she belongs but it’s sickening she did not get a swift death penalty. . Poor parents. . I like this channel.
@@Watchoutforsnakez Terribly, terribly sorry your child was taken from you. I hope they have caught the bastard/s who did it. God bless you. I hope you have found some peace.🙏💔😪
Mary Jane’s brother keeping such detailed daily journals is certainly strange but dang did it come in handy
Nit really. I know folks that keep times and dates of the arrival of guests, what they ate, etc... in their journals.
I've heard such detailed record keeping can actually be tied up with certain mental issues, like ocd
It's called hypergraphia.people who have write things constantly
I feel sorry for the poor pastor too, when his superiors refused to help him. This could all have been different, if they had.
Yeah I mean they couldn't care less! The least they could do is verify if his story was true or not which may lave led to Mary Jane being arrested or getting sent down to mental asylum.
Does it surprise you that they couldn’t care less? It would have surprised me more if they had cared enough to do anything.
@@jillgarlick2122 unfortunately, no. Which is an awful state of affairs.
I feel like he should have gone to the police to get a restraining order against her.
Now tell me exactly WHAT the ch6rch could have done against a hyoersexed nutcase who long bought a gun anyway?
''She was enjoying her time in prison as she had a captive audience to listen to her''......Haha
The others in there were truly being punished for their crimes.
All nutters maybe.
I was shocked she got to live as long as she did considering what she was putting her inmates through. People have been killed in prison for way less, just sayin…
Talk about cruel and unusual punishment
Those poor prisoners‼️‼️😂
As a true crime fanatic, I always find it to be extremely frustrating when you know someone is guilty but it can’t be proven. I am so glad that Ronda’s case was brought to justice and I hope they find Mary Jane’s father someday.
Yo you gotta be annoying AF to get a priest to quit on you.
Ain’t that the truth my friend!🤣
Lol
Had the church taken the pastor's complaints seriously, Rhonda would have never been killed, They are partially responsible for her death.
I concur
I think most churches have a few people that are odd or strange, and have mental health problems it doesn’t translate into someone who is going to commit murder
Believe it or not, I've been in a similar situation. So many churches only care about how many butts are in the pews. More butts means more people paying tithes and donations. They'll hesitate to actually kick paying congregants out, even if they're a threat to others.
Mary is the only one responsible for killing Rhonda. Kicking her out of church would have made her even more angry & the outcome would still be the same.
No they are not. Mary Jane was the only one responsible!
I’ve know about this case for years but have never gotten so much detail as I did today. Thank you for this!
Yeah, same for me. It’s always so great to get a fresh perspective on a familiar story.
Mary Jane not only killed Rhonda but her own father as well. Not to stop there she was probably a female serial killer. From the victim count area on her face it appears the tally to be at least 10.
Previously mentioned was my opinion that Rhonda was murdered by someone she didn't know. She really didn't know Mary Jane, even though they attended the same church.
Mary Jane is a paranoid schizophrenic. With homicidal tendencies. Her perception of reality was distorted, much like the system that accompanies schizophrenia.
So some with schizophrenia are indeed violent. Despite reported claims by experts that schizophrenia is not a violent disorder.
@@jasonlindsey9946 my brother had that mental illness
He wasnt violent at all but he could be mean
@@lindaarrington9397 I didn't mean to imply that All people with schizophrenia are homicidal. What I meant to relay is that All murderers to some degree do have schizophrenia. Not individuals guilty of self defense or law enforcement officers that kill in the line of duty.(non corrupt, non schizophrenic police).
My disclosure of my research isn't meant to vilify people with schizophrenia but to caution others of the potential danger the homicidal schizophrenics can display.
This case has always fascinated me. Mary Jane’s kindly, devout old lady persona was an act. I saw another show about Mary Jane that included audio of the messages she left the pastor and audio of her talking to police. In the messages to the pastor, she spoke in a high pitched, girly voice and just rambled about nothing. It was so embarrassing. A cop later said that during questioning, Mary Jane began denigrating the victim and bitched about people in the church helping her and how she “stole” the pastor away from her. That poor woman didn’t do anything except work at the church.
She would not shut up( from a family member)
This is particularly scary for me as I was a stalked by a guy with mental health issues while working as a secretary at a church. Listening to this makes me feel like I was lucky that the guy wasn't particularly aggressive.
But he did just kind of act like we -were- in a relationship and a majority of the church just kind of accepted that as fact despite the fact that vehemently denied it and asked the leadership to tell him to back off several times. It's really scary when your being harassed and your surrounded by people who either support it or don't care.
I can sympathize with that pastor.
I'm sorry you had to go through that.
I will never understand why police can think TWO shots to the head can be self-inflicted.
Sounda North Port police work!
It has happened though. I can't remember the case names but a man did shoot himself twice but they had a hard time figuring that out and followed the case as a homicide for several weeks. They finally pieced together that he shot himself but he didn't die and was still fairly lucid in spit of a bullet in his brain. After blood being spread everywhere in the motel room room where he was staying, he finally shot himself again.
Especially when both shots were fatal.
Also after she just said there was no gun found at the scene... definitely a suicide 🙄
Read about a guy who had to shoot himself 3 times to get the job done.. With a shotgun!
How could I not click with a title like that?
Also, can we get a round of applause for the E.M.T.s who went out of their way to try to preserve the crime scene? Didn't know they did that.
I want to know what she did with her father, dude…
She told neighbors he was on Haycock Mountain.
Bucket of red water... did they have pigs on the property? She might have fed him to them..
@@littleredwitch oh god I hope not.
Dude?
yes! i wish they could find him to at least give him a proper burial.
I just found your channel after subscribing sometime ago. They hid you from my algorithm, and I don't know why as crime is all I listen to at night.
I apologise, and I think it was rather crimereel, briefcase, or criminally listed that reminded me of you. I've been binging so much over the past week.
Thank you for your hard work.
The algorithm can go do a running jump. I go straight to you videos every night now ❤
It is so frustrating that female stalkers are not taken 10% as seriously as male ones
This was incredibly well-done. Thank you for sharing. I can't believe we get to watch such quality content for free.
She’s an amazing researcher & storyteller ‼️. A female John Ballen!!
She ‘test fired’ the gun ‘shortly after’ her father went missing. 😳
So… she shot her father.
She shot him when he went to get the newspaper and that's why his scent ends there at the end of driveway where she stuffed him into the trunk of her car. I can even imagine her cringing over the sound after.
I can't imagine she could have the strength to lift an adult into a car trunk.
Someone should really do a scientific study!!
It’s kind of amazing just how many people, accused of a crime experience “blackouts” and they always seem to have happened exactly at the moment of the criminal act, but never beforehand or following said crime. Astonishing!
Please note: I’m being sarcastic. You might want to read it using your own sarcastic voice…I’m pretty sure that we all have one. 🙂🐿
Yes, they don't seem to understand that memory problems can be caused by being traumatized, not causing the trauma!
@@Ariadne76-k3d to be fair it can probably be traumatizing to commit an act like that so I can understand where certain blanks could be found in a person's story but the 'yeah i couldn't tell you if i did it cos i dont remember but uh yea i suppose it totally looks like i could have done it but you have to understand that i have no memory of it so i mean who knows you know' is really convenient.
@@thecaptainsnark If you are doing something horrible to somebody, of you own free will, you can just stop. So no,it is not traumatizing. Trauma occurs when something is done to us, or when we are forced to do something against our will. These idiots are imposing their will on others, getting off on it, then trying to pretend they are some kind of victims.
@@Ariadne76-k3d If you cut yourself does it cause a wound? Yes, because it is possible to self inflict trauma.
I appreciate how you are able to convey the details of the case without dramatizing them. Good job!
I really like the narrators voice. Very matter of fact and non-opinionated. She just keeps a very stable re-telling of events and history behind the involved people.
Mary Jane murdered Rhonda and is suspected of killing her father. Why am I the only one taking note of the fact her father specifically blamed Mary Jane for her mother dying. He was trying to stay tf away from her as much as possible too. Pastor couldn’t pray away Mary Jane; the church and Jesus wouldn’t and couldn’t fix it. Yikes. 😕
Good observation
Don't include Jesus in this.
@@yvonnewilson2242 Jesus can defend himself. Who are you? lol
@@nikitadondiva he will soon and it will be too late for you to repent.
@@myunknownland9272 I don’t need to repent for anything me and Big G are homies. Worry about yourself.
the wildest part about this story if you think about it is the fact that you'd think it would be your own mental health issues you struggle with that would get you killed but it was someone else's.
That Mary Jane is a real nut case. She even has that "kook" look on her face. I first heard of this case on the TV program called Snapped on the Oxygen channel but didn't get this much info. Thanks for your incisive deep dive on this story!
And those wigs were really bad wigs!
She is gross
Wasn't she in Monsters Inc?
"I'm watching you, Wazowski, aaaaalways watching."
Lol I say that all the time. I can do her voice pretty well.
😂😂😂😂😂
I set my heat, grabbed a blanket and enjoyed #heavycasefiles... I love your content, your details show your thorough investigation... loyal to your channel... keep up the good work!😊😊😊😊😊
You always research and narrate the events in a very compelling way, thank you for telling us this tragic tale I look forward to the next one. x
Between the fact there was no gun found at the scene and the 2nd bullet went through her wrist as she attempted to defend herself investigators did some impressive hoop jumping to keep their suicide angle alive... Id say murder sounds just as if not more plausible than a suicide covered up by a friend/family member getting rid of the gun.... Sounds like some good old tunnel vision
Great attention to detail. This video is very well done.
Another very well-done video. Thank you for the work you do, and for always handling the material with professionalism. I'll keep passing your videos to my friends who listen to criminal investigations.
My understanding was this evil thing was in love with the pastor and also jealous cause some people helped Rhonda.
What a piece off work.
I didnt know some of this info.
Wow! Incredibly well done and presented, SG! I'd heard a very short version of the murder, but all this detail really fleshed it out. Thanks!
I haven't watched your videos in a while. So happy to be back. Couldn't imagine anything better to watch on laundry day!
The church refused to cooperate they must take responsibility also if they took the claims seriously that woman would most likely not have been murdered.
Very good point. They completely ignored Pastor shreeve’s complaints, and even after he told Mary he couldn’t be her pastor anymore she kept returning. He shoulda gotten a restraining order out, poor guy
Yes, this happened in Pennsylvania, where stalking is a third-degree felony.
You did an amazing job looking into all of the details. Well done and thank you!
Than you for your work. I am Roman Catholic in the Faith burying the dead is a corporal work of mercy. I believe in some way your endeavors of bringing some peace for the deceased and their families is akin to a merciful act.
Good heavens. This lady was demented and killed that poor woman. Great presentation and your voice is soothing.
And, her choice of music, so haunting.
Demented is exactly the right word.
And tormented poor Pastor Shreeves too. And probably murdered her OWN FATHER! Her mugshot at the end shows her horrible soul, she looks mean
I have heard this story before but not in the detail you gave it. Great job and thank you!
Her brother was a help, since he was recording everything.
Tells me he had issues also. Who writes down everything they do in a day every day?
@@diannaperry8116 It comes in handy sometimes.
Yep that family was a little off….
@@diannaperry8116 someone who's parents gaslight and manipulate them. but that also boils down to having an issue of sorts i suppose.
The condition is called hypergraphia.people who have it compulsively write down everything in their daily lives they do no matter how minor
When your choice is so useless that it won't even help its own pastor, it begs the question of why it even exists, because it surely is not godly.
Yep. It seems they were more interested in their public image than in listening to, and dealing with, their pastor's fears.
Thanks for all your hard work in researching and presenting this case, I genuinely appreciate it.
So yeah, once again, thanks.
Fasinating and so detailed....excellent video...thank you. Very sad for so many. No words can console the loss of such a loved one...Even before the story mentioned it I knew Mary Jane would love being in the prison system, she would probably feel "at home" there. Sighhh not really a punishment in this case.
Having a woman like Fonder show a sexual interest in a chap would surely render said chap impotent.
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What is most ironic and tragic about this story is that a woman with a psychotic disorder was targeted and killed by another woman with a psychotic disorder. Both suffered great bouts of delusion, but only one was a murderer💔
I can't believe YT just directed me to your channel today. Great research and narration. Interesting case for me as well as I don't live far from Bucks County. I've done some work there. Thank You ! You have a new subscriber
Her and jcs... simply marvelous. Who else can't get enough!?
JCS never uploads ever. 2 in one year is unacceptable
@@heathernikki5734 I'd have to agree... sadly enough
Who else thinks she should also do interrogations? I bet she'd be great
Who is JCS? I love heavycase files.
@@rebekahbridges-tervydis5054 -Jim can't swim. Shows a lot of police interviews.
What a strange family..... I wonder if the brother Ed and Maryjane lived with Mom and Dad their entire lives.
Thank you for sharing. Great details in this crime. I think most clergy overlook mental illnesses because it's just in their nature. The woman clearly had mental issues that needed addressing.
Excellent as usual, keep up the good work!
Oh that's cra cra on a different level!!😣
TY, I know this case, Mary was a psycho, narcissist liar, who always made everything about herself.
You tell these stories so amazingly gracious, kind, and I appreciate all the time, research, and efforts you give to each video. Thank you.🤍
Crazy story with heavily added delusions and stalking!! Mary Jane was certainly a dangerous woman and I would not be surprised if she was behind his disappearance. I feel so bad for Brenda, her family and loved ones! She faced so many obstacles but she never gave up or lost hope. Living on her own and not wanting to be a burden on anyone. I am glad that Mary Jane was caught and served her time in prison.
Rhonda, not Brenda
You are sooo good at what you do here on YT! Please don't ever stop bringing us these important stoies!
An excellent video from your channel. Far more information given on this case. Thanks 👌
This woman is completely abhorrent. And, apparently as ignorant as it’s possible to be. I only wish they’d found her father before she passed away. She deserved to have to tell the truth about what had become of her father.
Can’t believe you don’t have more subscribers. I’ve followed you for a while and you are amazing. Thorough but also not talking forever about things that’s not important to the case, respectful, easy to follow, and again, don’t spend 10 minutes talking about the victim’s grandfather if it’s not pertinent to the case.
Also, you have a really great and soothing voice so I usually put on one of your videos I’ve already seen (obviously don’t want it to be a new one) to fall asleep to just because your voice is so good. You should have like a second channel doing sleep stories lol.
I had to pause the video for a moment when I heard that the case happened in Bucks County, Pa. I was born and raised here and never once heard of this case. So very sad for everyone involved though.
Wow, she was on her way to becoming a serial killer. She was crazy af
Ms. Fonder may well have already been a serial ki11er by the time she was arrested. Her father blamed her for her mother's death, then he disappeared one morning when Mary Jane claimed to have been at home with him, even though he had serious mobility issues, and could not drive. After that, a dead dog which had been given a lethal dose of her father's medicine was found in her freezer, so it seems that she might have experimented with prescription drugs to learn how to fatally dose her parent(s). She had been fired from at least one job for threatening a coworker.
I honestly don’t know why they didn’t use her mental health at her hearing. I didn’t go to it, so not 100% sure if the defense utilized that angle. She had a long history of mental issues. My mom, who was her aunt and looked just like her) said she was hospitalized in mental hospitals a few times. The thing is she was smart and creative, she was an excellent fine artist,never went to school for it. I myself am also a college educated fine artist. She was also sneaky and calculating, so I think they believed she was in her right mind at the time of the killing. She was in her right mind when she planned that killing, I’m guessing. She was trying to eliminate her rival, in her head, Rhonda Smith. My mother also had some odd jealousy issues. Anyway, yes , we all believe she killed her father, Ed, who was my uncle. He was such a sweet man, who was very intelligent and kind. He used to come visit us once a week and give us kids a quarter😀I’d like to know what happened to his remains, though. They have never been found😥
So first, the cops immediately jumping to a conclusion of suicide solely because Rhonda had Bipolar disorders clearly shows that they have NO idea of what Bipolar actually is.
Bipolar is an emotional disorder that causes people to experience emotions at their most intense at all times. They don't have an emotional cooling off period.
Second normally I have no respect for Christianity, especially the larger congregations like Catholicism, Protestant, Evangelical, Mormon or LDS for quite a few reasons I'm going to go into.
I really like this pastor and how he runs his congregation. He and the vast majority of his members are down to earth good people.
You have to respect good people.
YAY! A new one! I was checking last night thinking it was time. Hope your cat is doing well! (I remember he used to interrupt you while you were recording in your closet in the early days 🥰)
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The rare crime story where the pastor is good as hell. Poor guy probably blames himself; I hope he's okay.
I don't have any doubts about the ballistics but pulling the gun powder rez. the way they did it and when they did it .
I think if the supposed powder in her car was the only gun evidence she would have cause for an appeal, but they found so much more.
A seriously disturbed woman 😟 who I believe most probably did kill her father. I’m left wondering what kind of childhood she had 🤔 one more body and she’d be classed as a serial killer 😯
I feel for the prison inmates. There would be no escape from Mary’s constant talking 🙉
Rest in peace Rhonda
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Well done love the informative details you give and beautiful speaking voice ❤️ Prayers to Rhonda Family ❤️😔🙏🏽… And Jealousy and Envy is a disease people may not believe it but it is and it’s so sad this story makes you really think of how vindictive and hateful people can be right under you and you never know… one reason I’m the way I am …
Thank you for all the details on this case, Heavy Casefiles, along with the pictures. You do very good research to get all of the things we might need to know to draw our own conclusions. ( You don't convey a lot of judgement.) I feel almost as if I was there. I also really like your voice.
Great work on this one!
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The first video I've watched on this site. Very impressed at the detailed research you have obviously done. Thank you for a tragic but interesting case file.
I just love your narrations! Thank you for making me aware of these cases.
Great video 😊👍🏼
Happy Halloween Everyone 🎃👻
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Thankyou for your hard work, you are a great story teller n love that u cover cases that r older and may not be as well covered as other cases. ❤️
Wow, this is straight up middle aged Mean Girls. Just when I thought the story wasn’t going to get any crazier, boom….it get crazier. 😂
The church council should have intervened. A life would have been saved.
Hey there 😊😁, thank-you for the upload.
Poor Rhonda! I hope that she has found the peace that eluded her in this life! RIP!
Happy Halloween
Rhonda fought so hard to have an independent life despite her mental health challenges only to become the obsession of this nutball. Too many thought Mary Jane was just a dotty old lady instead of seeing her behavior as stalking.
So tragic and senseless.
That photo of Mary Jane will forever give me nightmares
Depressing case but well presented👍👍
Well done HC. Thank you.🙏💔 Hope your Halloween was good🎃
She definitely murdered him, she was schizophrenic and I had witnessed her behavior first hand , because she was my mom’s niece ( I was adopted, so no relationship). I was not surprised she did this.
Please tell us what she was like. Did you notice any other strange behaviors?
@@phresh62 she was schizophrenic, would scream at her brother for no reason , and she would sit at our house and clearly was hearing voices. She would sit there shaking her head. It was scary. She would just pop over our house with no warning. We started to hide in the basement. One time she thought we were home and she was sitting in the bench in front of my house, crying and and stayed out there for more than an hour. She had her deceased dog frozen in her freezer. When we would visit, reluctantly, we would not eat any thing at her house, it was beyond filthy. Ughhhh!
@CarolynHenry1231 Oh wow thank you for replying and your insight on her. She definitely sounded out of touch with reality. Do you know why they didn't use her mental health issues as a defense in her trial? Either way I guess it's good that she was locked up for the rest of her life as she was dangerous. Do you believe she killed her father too?
I was listening to this while falling asleep & immediately opened my eyes when I heard Azaria. I though someone was calling me 😭.
Great video.
Thank you for this detailed information
Thanks for making this available. Being morbidly all too familiar with this case, I would point out only one factual error: It was ten days (on a Sunday), not three, before she was killed (on a Wednesday), when Rhonda publicly thanked her fellow worshipers for their generosity. Too bad that Mary Jane never learned to manage personal demons to the extent that her victim Rhonda had indeed learned. A wasted opportunity for a good friendship too.
Rhonda never allegedly murdered her own father nor s*** harassed any pastors, so NO these two were NOT on the same level “personal demon” wise and couldn’t have been FRIENDS
@@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim Huh? Who said Rhonda was guilty of anything? As far as friends, the Fonder woman was given CHOICES in life. She chose badly & with cruelty, That's all
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You are so right about that Australian case. Those parents were treated horribly for decades.
Brilliant as ALWAYS!
Cops: "nah. Not murder. Friends/family threw out the gun to hide a suicide. 2 shot suicide where each bullet was fatal? Totally possible."
Some revolvers can go off after dropped so it would be possible but the gun would have being gone should have made murder the first thought
What is name of the music in the background?
Thank You! This is so sad! RIP Rhoda.💔💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏🙏💐💐💐💐. Very informative.
Can someone please tell me the name of the melody in the beginning? It's so good!
Goodness, reading about all that church drama sounds almost made up, but I can confirm that stuff goes on all the time. So sad this woman took it to the extreme.😢
One place besides ones home that should be sacred. Is a church, Temple, Synagogue. Etc.
Theft, assault and murder should be taboo. Mary Jane was clearly delusional and disturbed. While she thought of herself as important and should have been included in everything. She was just another member of her church. Her emotions and jealously about the pastor would have culminated in hate against any woman she thought a rival.
Sadly she was so bull headed she didn't realize this man did not want her. Rather its pure fantasy and she lived in an imaginary world. Unfortunately her fantasy crossed the line into reality. Amazing what love and pure obsession can do.
In writing a paper on the Vietnam War. I thought this was about Jane Fonda.
Great video anyway!
Hanoi Jane did plenty to support the death and torture of our soldiers.
Mary Jane could never be released, remaining a psychopath and someone extremely dangerous and hostile to anyone who seemed to be in her way.