Why You NEED A Cold Air Intake On A Cummins
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 พ.ค. 2019
- Today we head to the shop and show everyone how cheap the factory air intake clamps are and how they rusted out after only 14k miles on my 2014 Cummins Ram 3500. To solve this issue I picked up a S&B cold air intake to replace the factory junk and we go through the entire installation start to finish then go test it out.
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I just looked at my '16 with 135k miles. No issues with the clamps. The OEM is a cold air intake just as the aftermarket units. They all use the the OEM gate and drive. I did have an aftermarket big wet filter on my '14 2500. I visit a lot of dusty construction sites and noticed that fine red Carolinas dust was making past the oiled filter and coating the down tube. I went back to the OEM box and a Wix OEM filter. No more dust.
I put the same filter in my '17 Ram and really like it. It can be somewhat of a PITA when attaching to the turbo. Fortunately, I don't have a lot of obstructions. LOL. Anyway, the tabs on my battery box broke just like on yours. FWIW, I pulled the battery box and rebuilt the broken area with aluminum angle and got rid of the grid heater relay mess while I was at it. Solid as a rock even after removing the filter box several times. Love my Ram, it's my fourth, but they sure did cut a few corners. Great instructional video for a first time installer!
I bought new clamps. The stock airbox works excellent.
Wonder how long those broken clamps would have kept your stuff together! Good thing you put this air intake in so you could fix what you also didn't know was broken. Great video! :)
Thanks man for taking the time to show us newbie Ram 2500 Cummins owners!! Looking forward to watching your other vids. 👍✌️
Keep that Hammerdown!!!
2015 Ram 2500 with 107k all 3 clamps fine and original.
Caught your video. I was doing a delete on my 2500 and I had the exact same issues when I was working on the truck. My band clamps were loose on the turbo end and broken in the middle. I also found the tab on the engine side of my battery tray broken and as soon as I unbolted the air box radiator frame bolt it fell toward the motor. Looks like I will be getting an S&B intake and a new battery tray as well.
CAI is definitely the second mod to my truck I'll be doing after getting a boost fooler....slow and steady, art takes time.
Sounds like a future tune & exhaust coming! Nice job.
Thanks, very good video
I’m pretty lucky I picked my truck up in California the only thing I noticed is because it’s got 84,000 I needed to completely change out all the caliper brake fluid the coolant fluid and I’ll start on all the other oils but basically it’s a brand new truck at 84,000 except for some paint damage just from all the sand being blown around
Great video. 👍 thanks
Holy crap guess I'm checking that next on my 2016 with 55k on it it gets driven in dirty conditions alot
I have a 99 2500 5.9 24 valve. The original air filter set up it came with IS a cold air system . It draws air from the fender well. I upgraded to a better filter ,but see no reason to change the factory air box.
I just went out side an looked at my clamps an I have two ( 2 ). Broken an I need this kit quick I live on a dirt road
Thanks. I'm here because I was looking to replace those broken clamps. Glad you confirmed what I was finding in trying to replace the center clamps. The system you reviewed here is no longer available. Is there another you recommend? Might as well replace the intake rather than try to find those clamps!
Yeah I would check S&B’s website maybe they updated the part number but the new system sounds so good it’s worth it
I just found a broken and rusty clamp yesterday on my 2015 with 37,000 miles on it. Checked the rest and one was nearly in half and the other two were really rusty. Not good. Thanks for the video. It made me check all of my clamps. What kind of mileage increase are you seeing on the S and B kit?
my 2018 has stainless
clamps. maybe they upgraded it. thanks for the video.
Pick up a filter sock and the dry filter will perform better longer
Great video!!!
By the time you do that I wonder if it still outflows a Wix?
I just ordered my cold intake kit
I’d rather buy a cold intake kit than buy the over priced junk from dodge dealer that doesn’t last plus that foam inside the air tube is breaking down don’t need it going thru my turbo
Thanks to your video I have a 2012 with 56,000 miles and it says in my garage in Texas. Long story short I checked the clamp in my turbo a damn , it is rusted into also. Piece of crap.
yep and the dealer doesn't sell them either or care in the least bit
You can’t beat stock filtration. I sold my S&B intake after my intake tube was dusted and oil analysis confirmed filtration not sufficient.
I don’t know man, the stock air filter box flows a lot less air then most after market cold air systems, as far as filtration perhaps upgrade the air filter to a better quality filter?
@@illestk24civic stock box good to 500hp. No performance gains with aftermarket intake unless exceeding 500hp. It would probably make a small difference on a naturally aspirated engine, not turbocharged.
@@dodgecummins6181 you can easily reach 500hp+ just doing a egr delete and efi live
@@illestk24civic absolutely, but most people aren’t pushing that much power without a lot of work like head studs. If over 500hp then I take a good idea. I’m at 425 hp 810 tq on stock box. Just a towing machine.
@@illestk24civic Stock air filters flow a lot less dirt than the aftermarket filters too.
Where did you get this kit
Just put a less restrictive filter on the stock system it will make the same noise and buy new clamps just saved a few hundred bucks
So.... why do I NEED A cold air intake? Watched for a pay off that never came? Good video, don’t get me wrong now, just was looking to be convinced.
Because your clamps might be broken and you can't buy just the clamp(s). Also I don't think this is really a cold air intake since the truck already has a cold air intake.
Can’t buy hose clamps WTF
I have never seen a clamp break straight across like that. Also never seen a stainless clamp rust. Old airbox looked too clean as well.
Watch Banks comparison videos.
I was about to say brother that thing slow, you will be amazed once deleted lol nice truck
Got a bad ass platti now
Whao... you got a bigger knife to open up that box???? ha ha ha
what about them cassette tapes... stepping back to the good stuff.
Iol I wish
Steve Fast? I worked with a guy where his last name was Quick...We Patriots love our speed and power don't we?
...and Canadians
I hate dealers for the same reasons.
Who did you steal that knife from....Crocodile Dundee 😂
haha absolutely we played a game of knifey spooney
That shady tech!
Any MPG gain?
Did you get any underboost codes after installing the intake?
If you know you know
What happens when dirt go into the turbo?
I had dirt went in through crack intake hose to the turbo.
Not too good for that compressor wheel
3:35 Let’s open this box with He-Mans sword 🗡.
🇺🇸😎Great job 👍🔥✌️
Car dealer mechanics can’t be trusted, they work on a time repair, if they can save time the dealer is so proud of them
How did your diesel do with the new cold air intake , towing and climbing hills?
its been great so far I like the intake noise you get with the system for sure
I'd like some as well just don't want it to be insanely loud or annoying, no mil lights ,codes or any issues
@@VP23 it isn’t much louder than stock just little bit more semi truck like but no mil lights or issues
Thanks I appreciate the info
GOOD VIDEO for the install thank you for posting. at 20 minutes you talk about the clamps and for DODGE you shouldn't be shocked with low quality anything. I was searching for a WHY TO INSTALL COLD AIR INTAKE....you never mentioned why? looks to me like all thats gonna do is BARELY IF ANYTHING up the HP with ten ponies.if that!! and wow your truck is louder? my 2006 diesel IS LOUD AF. noise is garbage. I wouldn't mind a rebuttal of WHY you installed it.....like better GM or smoother acceleration? or 50 xtra HP? did your check engine like come on? or did you retune your cpu?
again i see a lot of these dodge owners with rusty this failing that.......its because you bought a dodge lol
Our clamps are fine too.
Do you get a blow off valve sound when you let off throttle?.
Alex W lol not on a diesel but you do get a growl from the vgt sounds like a Jake brake
04 with 375,000 m never had a problem with the clamps
I guess in 14 they made them out of recycled Toyotas
@@HammerdownMotorsportsUSA now that could be
Ours aren't a problem.
I'm taking out my S&B air filter box. Several reasons, 1st is it does not filter like it should. The factory air box is whats supposed to be in it for maximum air filtration. 2nd is the extra noise, if I wanted noise I'd cut the exhaust out and do a custom straight pipe. 3rd is, if you read the owners manual removal of the factory air system or any factory pollution devices is against federal law and some state laws. And with the new administration the feds are cracking down. And with that are hefty fines. With the kids ( adults also) rolling coal and running straight exhaust they are ruining diesel trucks and bringing heat down on all of us.
Yeah the emissions stuff is anything before the throttle body or turbo inlet in this case or anything after the catalytic converter or DPF is fine since it does not affect the emissions of the engine but I would have left my factory one on if the dang clamps weren’t made out of garbage which could have resulted in my engine getting dusted if I didn’t catch it in time, but anyway I do like the sound it makes
Should of got a banks beats them all
Agreed I have a banks on my new Ford
What is the motor and valve for in the intake? Never owned a Cummins ram but about to get a 19 2500.
Aaron Miller it’s a 6.7 24v
@@HammerdownMotorsportsUSA right, but what's the motor and flap for in the intake? What's the purpose of that control in the dirty air side of the intake?
@@Predatorseeker oh yes it allows the intake to take warmer air from the wheel well instead of the front of the truck in really cold weather
@@HammerdownMotorsportsUSA ahhh that makes sense. Interesting.
So it's not really a "Cold air" intake since the factory setup does that already, at least that's how it seems to me.
When you do your own maintenance on your truck, you already know exactly what condition all your clamps are in.
Also, trucks in the southwest don’t have to worry about rust like that. Unless it’s been in a flood. Ha
You need a larger knife. The one you used is too small to be effective😂
Roger Parker agreed
Hammerdown Motorsports literally my same words🤣🤣🤣
Totally was just leisurely watching then holy knife!
I have seen several times where an aftermarket intake is just a better replacement for more then just performance. Plus they usually look better
Correct. The factory airbox is a cold air intake.
I’ve been battling over the exact same clamp with multiple dealerships for several years. Their IPC’s are incorrect and they’ve ordered and tried to sell me the wrong parts numerous times. Sad to say this will be the last Ram I will ever own. Customer experience, service department, design and engineering, all rank horrendous compared to other manufacturers.
I love the Ram but FCA needs to weed out their garbage dealers just like department stores these horrible dinosaurs will be a thing of the past hopefully sooner than later terrible service is the biggest reason I'd buy another brand
@@HammerdownMotorsportsUSA Same issues. I love my Ram trucks, but since Fiat got a hold of them, customer service from them and the dealers are awful. I am usually more happy to see the warranty run out so I can work on the truck myself and know it was done right. Seems the issue lately on all my trucks has been the 8.4 U connect system and GPS failing. I have had 3 of them go tango uniform. I am going to try a full screen Tesla style stereo next. It might be made in China, but so is the one they use that is junk and costs a fortune to fix.
Lol that factory filter was way past it's prime man!
WhyNotUs lol it didn’t even have 15k miles on it and never saw dirty roads
Not really. Those get an oily film on them guite quickly. As long as the filter minder is still in green or yellow it's good. When it gets into yellow is when I change mine. If you noticed when he spread the folds apart it was still fairly clean down in it. A partial dirty filter actually filters better than a new one. Some of the oil and dirt helps block small particles from getting through.
What headlights are those?
Mats Baribeau junk ones from Florida
My clamp was broke and there was no rust.
What about the check engine light??
None on mine
I thought in the video I saw the check engine light bottom left.
push broom ahh yeah I had a DEF code at one point may have been on then
I have a stock 6.7 Cummins n my 2010 Dodge Ram 3500 115k original milage. Trying to decide to stay stock or delete. Right now (stock) I get about 18/19 mpg @ 80 mph on the Interstate. Pulling my 33' travel trailer get about 12/13 @ 75 mph.
@@pushbroom9398 stay stock. The feds are cracking down on diesel trucks, even pickups, that are running illegal tuners and taking off stock air boxes and pollution devices. If you can afford the EPA fines go for it. Your owners manual will let you know about the federal laws on removing eq.
Damn, you have commercials mid video now. Going up the ladder!! Getting bigger!! Slowly but surely.
Jadesa0420 lol have to keep the lights on but for a 22min vid I only put in 3 I’ve seen people dropping 5 or more on a 10 minute vid, plenty of good content on the way thanks for watching
@@HammerdownMotorsportsUSA yeah that's true. Every 3 minutes I've seen commercials in a 10 minute video. You are rocking it.
The clamps were not bad ... the problem is with the dealers ... there Mechanic broke my trucks air in take box bolt locations cuz they use power tools to put back the things ... so the clamps were probably broken by the the dumb mechanic using the a power tool...
well mine rusted to nothing in less than 15k miles
@@HammerdownMotorsportsUSA i got a 2015 3500 with 169k miles and I'm in northeast ... clamps are still good ...
I was told blowing off your air filter with compressed air isn't a good idea because it breaks down the filter and creates small holes that allow dirt to pass through easier. Basically pushes the dirt through breaking down the filter.
ZappaZGaming you’re supposed to go the opposite way - don’t want to blow it through but blow it back the way it got on to the filter
@@1530Nick, ZappazGaming is correct even if you blow it out the way it came in. You are leaving microscopic holes that weren't there before which will let more unfiltered air into the engine than if it was left alone. I cringed when he said that and couldn't believe a mechanic would even mention doing that. Hell even in my mowers owners manual it tells you not to. It doesn't even want the filter box opened until the filter minder points its time. Every time a filter box is opened there is a very good chance of getting dirt into it. The less its opened the less chance of dirt getting in.
Buying a new clamp every other year makes more sense time wise and cost wise.
mdyyyy they don’t sell the one I needed then I checked and more were broken so out with the old
Rust bahahaha that's funny,
Really dissapointed in the design of those clamps- looks like every cummins will have the same issue. I just bought a 18 durango and had to add a tow hitch. Dealer price was $1600 for the hitch and wiring. I understand alittle markup but cmon.
agreed thats why I buy the parts and install them myself
The 5.9 doesn’t have all that bull crap on it
I broke it !
Where’s the baffle?
My question is what did it do to the egt's?
Dstrbd egts haven’t really haven’t changed much but turbo sound is so good now
@@HammerdownMotorsportsUSA Thanks for the quick response. I was just asking because I don't see anyone saying the difference with a COLD AIR INTAKE if you know what I mean. I have a tuned 04.5 ram 3500 and was hoping the intake would maybe cool it down a tad. Obviously tuning it to tow would lower egt's vs performance tune. I really appreciate the quick response!
@@playinhookie absolutely I need to tow with mine and really see what it does with a load
@@HammerdownMotorsportsUSA If you do and get a chance to post results it would be much appreciated. :)
@@playinhookie I drove it today EGTs were around 1135 on a pull pretty normal with no trailer
All vehicles have cold air intakes because it sucks the air from the outside not from the engine compartment a lot of these aftermarket so-called cold air intakes are absolutely opposite of what they said because they actually suck in hot air from the engine bay which the manufacturers do not want to happen because it will make your engine run hotter give you engine pinging so these mods might give you a tab more power but there's not a true cold air intake look at any car today look at where the air box is sucking the air from and it's not from the engine bay area
Buy a few clamps ?
Yup they sell them... with a whole new factory junk system Or you can find clamps and cut out all the spots where the rubber has to go through
Dealerships are the biggest rip offs.
I could tell you all kinds of stories.
They want to sell you a car so they could care less about yours.
It makes a good trade in that they will give you nothing for but say they gave you a lot.
I'm glad I don't own a new dodge truck. My 2006 Mega Cab intake clamps are in better shape than this.
Yeah crazy how bad they were from not much use the truck has 15k miles on it
I think you need a bigger knife
Wow 80 degree's. I work in 110 degree's. C'mon bud
JD Mac I should come out there I’d lose 20lbs lol i feel for you man I actually don’t mind the heat but 118 that’s hot
How do you get cold air from under the hood where the temperature is a minimum of 100F hotter while the motor is running? SCAM! The engineers at car manufacturers under pressure to improve fuel mileage and power are just stupid huh? Almost ALL aftermarket “upgrades” are actually downgrades. THINK! ALL of their supposed legit dyno testing is done with the hood up with industrial fans blowing, probably before the motor reaches operating temperature. Also, oil coated filters attract dirt. A few miles and it’s plugged. They are openly telling you it’s a lie. There’s a reason why when you add one of these scams, your computer shows minimum 3 mpg less fuel mileage on a motor that rates around 20 mpg. In addition, for a Cummins, the direction insert that evenly distributed air across your intake fins is eliminated with most of these “upgrades” It’s not a scam from a computer you are dealing with. Snake oil for desperate people. Sad! Otherwise, this is a good install video for those who believe in illogical scams.
well I would have to say this cold air intake uses the factory designed active air that pulls air from the front grille and wheel well area so it isn't hot under hood air also the filter is bigger and I got the dry filer no oil also the piping is designed to reduce heat and air turbulence which allows better air flow, the factory uses corrugated rubber that is cheaper than the silicone the good aftermarket uses. So yes the factory one works but there is better aftermarket options just beware of the cheap garbage those are definitely a downgrade.
Beard, sunglasses... You’d think he was Army CAG or Navy SEAL but he’s NOT socom. So do tell US... Why the sunglasses indoors?
Probably because of bloodshot eyes from snorting coke !
lol to the coke comment but yeah it was a thing g I did for a while just so you can’t see my eyes looking at a view finder but I have since stopped wearing them so now you can stare into my soul lol
Bravo
That’s very poor workmanship.
Wow this comment section is full of salty people good lord 🤣🤣🤦♂️
Yep some people lol
you might wanna delete that truck to really enjoy it
14k and rusted clamps??..you park this truck in the ocean?
find that same type of truck in a junkyard, take clamp off junk truck, ?????????, Profit
only one suggestion: Do away with the background music, detracts from the video.
At least it's not ghetto rap.
Surprised to see you working over a battery that isn't covered by shop rag or something to prevent accidental contact with posts. Knew a mechanic that welded his wedding ring to the bone...ugly.
That's why I wear a ceramic ring - no conductivity and if I smash my hand it just breaks and doesn't mash down on my finger. They are super cheap on Amazon and you can get different colors.
At least his wife was thrilled at his level of commitment
S&B is crap Banks kicks it's ass all day ya wasted your money.