Twisted Metal 3 Makes Me Sick | How Twisted Metal 3 Ruined The Series

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  • @TBP
    @TBP  ปีที่แล้ว +353

    Don't ask me how I feel about the TV show, that will get its own video soon.

    • @EnlightenedTrucker
      @EnlightenedTrucker ปีที่แล้ว +32

      I really enjoyed the show. I look forward to the video!

    • @ViremasterOfUSA
      @ViremasterOfUSA ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Looking forward to it. Subbed.

    • @miltonpitts4185
      @miltonpitts4185 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@damian_cross that’s what it needed to be. Not bad

    • @pleasesmokes5286
      @pleasesmokes5286 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Needs more sweet tooth

    • @Artemis_262
      @Artemis_262 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It was good imo

  • @Bardia006plus1
    @Bardia006plus1 ปีที่แล้ว +698

    The fact that they manged to make an engine and make and release this game in 9 month is kind of a miracle

    • @Roggor
      @Roggor ปีที่แล้ว +66

      As you go back in time in development history, time frames for games shorten drastically
      An AAA game today, needing 5 years and 300 development, could be done in the 90s under a year with 25 people and that's including the intern/coffee boy.

    • @MrRBX
      @MrRBX ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Games were much simpler

    • @TERMINATOR101-b8j
      @TERMINATOR101-b8j ปีที่แล้ว +35

      They were indeed simpler by today's standards, but still pretty complicated, especially with that kind of time frame. There's a reason PSX hacks are somewhat rare compared to cartridge games.

    • @georgebaynard4096
      @georgebaynard4096 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More like a monkey’s paw

    • @istoleyunomilesbigmac
      @istoleyunomilesbigmac ปีที่แล้ว

      it was a really dumb idea

  • @nicksignore8301
    @nicksignore8301 ปีที่แล้ว +419

    I grew up on TM2, but I actually have a lot of good memories playing TM3 and TM4 with siblings. It's a weird feeling seeing games you loved as kids get shit on for being terrible, but I think as kids we simply leaned on the games that we had access to. We also had a lot less basis for what was good and what was a bad game, so we just enjoyed them regardless.

    • @LostBeetle
      @LostBeetle ปีที่แล้ว +47

      It's because it's actually a good game. Especially for the time. Weird and the atmosphere doesn't feel like twisted metal? Sure. But still a good game.

    • @Space_Ghost_Hunter
      @Space_Ghost_Hunter ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Its not really that bad of a game, just not the best TM game. But still fun.

    • @shinji1264
      @shinji1264 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They were good games as a kid I didn't give af about the story and guess what in 2023 I give even less of a crap bout story

    • @zipherdias420
      @zipherdias420 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      No, its ok, its just they think they have to conflate a bunch of stuff and basically sensationalize bad takes to get more views. its a new youtuber tactic that I hate because it throws shade on things that don't deserve it.

    • @c8h8e8c8k8m8e8o8u8t
      @c8h8e8c8k8m8e8o8u8t ปีที่แล้ว +3

      TM4 was a 10.

  • @spoonmugen5599
    @spoonmugen5599 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    There was a group of people that did make some fan-improved ending concepts for this game. For Warthog, they had Rogers mortally wounded, yet he's still able to tell Calypso his wish. Calypso actually does make him fully young again, and Rogers is grateful for it. In return for granting his wish, Calypso asks of a favor to him, which he obliges. The following year, Roadkill/Marcus seems to have won the tournament, but just one catch. Captain Rogers has taken Minion/Primeval's place as the big boss of the contest, and is piloting an M1 Abrams tank. Marcus can only watch in shock and horror as he gets blown to bits.
    Auger actually goes for the wish mentioned in the profile, and even twists it against Calypso. Auger wished that wherever his company built/redesigned something at is permanently off-limits from Calypso's contest. Unbeknownst to Calypso, Auger's company built or redesigned things practically everywhere on Earth, allowing society to heal and improve while Calypso has a tantrum over it. Until he realizes he can host the contest in the sky (or space).
    Club kid wanted to host a party that would make international headlines, with him at the center of the mosh pit. The twist, it's a dance party full of Zombies, and he's the only human.
    Lastly, Flower Power. She basically gets rid of all man made structures and basically make life like it's Adam and Eve. People are pissed she probably killed millions from that stunt (People in hospitals, for example), and chase after her in an angry mob.

    • @personman1148
      @personman1148 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Where I can I find this group?

    • @spoonmugen5599
      @spoonmugen5599 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@personman1148 Just look up "Twisted Metal 3 Better endings". They only got those four on standby. The rest were lost as the site it was on was deleted, but one got lucky to save some of it.

    • @davidmuir405
      @davidmuir405 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Where can we see these endings you speak of?

    • @nickrustyson8124
      @nickrustyson8124 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      God I would love a Twisted Metal in the sky, think Crimson Skies, but more handmade shit and more themed vehicles

    • @Agentshadling
      @Agentshadling ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thank goodness fans don't make the endings

  • @napalmsanctuaryx4129
    @napalmsanctuaryx4129 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    The biggest issue is that it came AFTER Twisted Metal 2 and Vigilante 8, the 2 best games in the genre.

    • @vengefuljuggalo
      @vengefuljuggalo ปีที่แล้ว +29

      V8 is so good. That and Rogue Trip 2012 were a lot of fun compared to TM3

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@vengefuljuggalo V8 2nd offense was the peak for me, it played the same as original (even had the first game's levels unlockable) but also added more characters and upgrades for cars.

    • @brianlawl1
      @brianlawl1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      TM2 was def the peak of the tm

    • @napalmsanctuaryx4129
      @napalmsanctuaryx4129 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @KasumiR while I liked the expansion of vehicles and levels in 2nd offense, I hated the traversal pickups, and how you needed them to drive properly on certain surfaces. It just gummed up the flow of the gameplay IMO.

    • @pbanks2384
      @pbanks2384 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@brianlawl1 I personally don't think TM2 is better than TM Black.

  • @Larry
    @Larry ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Sony must have had second thoughts too as this game never received a PC port unlike the first two, and was never released outside of the US.

    • @ZMowlcher
      @ZMowlcher ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Single Trac is really to blame. They made two good games then decided they're gonna be publishers. 989 wasn't a bad choice either they made Syphon Filter.

    • @binary1123
      @binary1123 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ayoo it's Larry Bundy!

    • @huuuuuumpy
      @huuuuuumpy ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ZMowlcher lol I still remember playing the syphon filter demo as a kid just to set bad guys on fire with the tazer.

    • @hecksters423
      @hecksters423 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@huuuuuumpyUNLIMITED POWERRRRRR!!!

    • @siempreretorna
      @siempreretorna ปีที่แล้ว

      Saw your video, you suck playing this game xd

  • @Issac_The_Last_N7
    @Issac_The_Last_N7 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    I absolutely loved Twisted Metal 3. It was nice when enemies would battle others instead of only attacking you

    • @LEWIS1992
      @LEWIS1992 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Good point. The guy in this video doesn't mention the A.I. at all - it's WAY better than in the first 2 games.

    • @bremaster93
      @bremaster93 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@LEWIS1992Twisted Metal 3 is underrated. Loved it as well when enemies would kill each other too. I hate when the A.I. would only go after me. That should have been an optional thing in the other games.

    • @DementedDistraction
      @DementedDistraction ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The enemies fighting each other was definitely a blessing considering that in addition to the enemies themselves, you also had to constantly fight with the horrible camera, terrible controls, and even worse physics engine.

    • @WheeledHamster
      @WheeledHamster ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Like Black, where all the enemies will seek your ass out.

    • @Skitskl33
      @Skitskl33 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah but the TM3 and 4 AI would also seek out health pickups when their health was low which was BS.

  • @christopherpho9424
    @christopherpho9424 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    The main issue I had was that Calypso won every wish. With every other game, there is one character that gets one over Calypso (usually Sweettooth). In TM3, like you said, their wishes are all goofy which just disincentivized me from playing.

    • @GothRailfan
      @GothRailfan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shadow is another that either gets what they want or one ups Calypso.

  • @MrRBX
    @MrRBX ปีที่แล้ว +60

    3 was my fave as a kid. The 4 player split screen was so much fun. 3 and 4 was always a hit in my house among friends until Black came and took the crown.
    And yes we played 2 first

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA ปีที่แล้ว +5

      People forget how in 2 you can't even make multiplayer deathmatch with computer enemies on screen. Multiplayer is EITHER duels or two against campaign with levels in always same order. 3 or 4 improved on free play MASSIVELY.

    • @brianlawl1
      @brianlawl1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@KasumiRINA i just love TM 2s gameplay way more. the crazy jumps and the ramming make it for me. felt way more like an arcade and captured the essence of the series

  • @Ry-dy8xr
    @Ry-dy8xr ปีที่แล้ว +42

    It's been a couple decades at this point, but my brother and I as kids beat this game in my uncle's basement with his pair of steering wheels. I remember that the steering controls actually worked pretty well, which is something I can say would have been impossible on TM2

  • @awsomebootsironmelon8998
    @awsomebootsironmelon8998 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I think you can fix outlaws ending by making it a lawless world so there is no laws to break so no crime

    • @istoleyunomilesbigmac
      @istoleyunomilesbigmac ปีที่แล้ว +1

      fr

    • @Kaitou1412Fangirl
      @Kaitou1412Fangirl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Dang, your twist is much better than mine. Mine essentially robbed people of free will which made them unable to do crime but also made them essentially robots without hopes, dreams, feeling. A bit too philosophical for a murderous demolition derby game. XD

  • @flyingferron
    @flyingferron ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I give props to 989 for TM 3, doing what they could in the short time frame they had while still trying to make a game that mostly fits in with its predecessors, by way of the vehicles/character roster and "world tour" aspect of the tournament. TM 4 after that though went too far off the deep end for me to try giving it the same praise.

  • @mdpofficial
    @mdpofficial ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I played TM3 when it first came out. It felt like your best friend decided to change to fit in with the cool kids, ditching you.

    • @etbonz3499
      @etbonz3499 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Very well said!

  • @TrapeZoid_-117
    @TrapeZoid_-117 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The worst part about the endings is that they are pretty easy to fix. Outlaws could easily have been “oh, everyone collectively agrees that nothing is illegal and the world falls into chaos”. Meanwhile, they could have used outlaw’s ending for Auger. Just change his wish to making his buildings indestructible, then reveal most of his business was reconstructing the buildings.

  • @stanxd0
    @stanxd0 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I still laugh at how absurd the endings are, my favourite part of this game.

    • @shawklan27
      @shawklan27 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mr Grimms ending is just.....why?

    • @noahboat580
      @noahboat580 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I like it when hes like "your wish is to *hang with your homies?* " i just find it so goofy regardless of the grim connotations

    • @160sharp
      @160sharp ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Worst part of the game

  • @LeeEverett1
    @LeeEverett1 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I remember as a kid feeling something was massively off about TM3 and just not enjoying it compared to TM2 which I kept going back to until 4 came out. The soundtrack was pretty much the best thing about this game.

    • @worsethanhitlerpt.2539
      @worsethanhitlerpt.2539 ปีที่แล้ว

      The songs in Level 2 and 3 are the phoniest crap songs Ive ever heard. TM4 had more "so bad theyre good" songs way better soundtrack

  • @Canada407
    @Canada407 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    So glad to see you talk about this in full. Been waiting for awhile

  • @El_Febo_Abel
    @El_Febo_Abel ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The endings in TM2 have something that was missing in this 3rd installment: All the characters have interactions with Calypso, Calypso never knows their wishes before their meeting and some wishes overcome the unfortunate twist (some even turn against Calypso). The only thing that I found "bad" was that they needed more voices (Twister does not speak in his own final) and not repeating so many Calypso sketches, but they are details that never tarnished the game for me.

  • @mrpeeps1455
    @mrpeeps1455 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Last time I played TM3 was in '03. Dad and I often played videogames, mom as well. I mean I'd come home from school, walk in and there he was, immersed in the game. I miss those days.

  • @gooblaka
    @gooblaka ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I actually really enjoyed Twisted Metal III but then again it was my introduction to the series.
    That aside, as a game developer, I can tell you that this game suffered from many different things. The first major point of contention is that when Sony acquired the intellectual rights to the series, they failed to really press the original creators on giving them the game engine as part of that acquisition. As a result, when they handed off 3's production to an in-house studio, the requirement to make an engine from scratch probably consumed most of the time and resources, and it probably got to the point of, "If it's playable, ship it."
    Another point is the creative direction of the game. Every ending felt like a big fuck you to the player, as each ending resulted in the driver being screwed over no matter what. It's like the writing staff that created the character profiles had little communication with the writers who drafted the endings, when really they should have been the same people if they weren't. That causes a huge tonal inconsistency such as with Auger's profile vs his ending. The endings should have been made more sinister, leaving some room for interpretation or a much more ironic result from the winner suffering from their wish. Making everything a mandatory monkey's paw is contrived, lazy and makes the endings predictable once you've seen just two of them to confirm it,
    Take for example Twisted Metal 2's Hammerhead. They wished for the ability to fly, and Calypso provided... them airline tickets. It was a funny and ironic ending, and if it were handled by 3's ending writer staff, they would have probably been turned into flies or something, and die when Calypso swats them. Endings need to either provide a twist of irony, consequences as the result of the winner's own actions, or set up for a sequel with a cannon ending.
    At the end of the day, Twisted Metal III suffered from a short development time (even if it was the 90s and for a PS1 game), but particularly from needing to have a whole new engine created from scratch.

  • @tyrantm7
    @tyrantm7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    As the first Twisted Metal game i owned and played, it was amazing without having the others to compare it to. Add that i had friends who played it with me for hours and we used cheat codes for extra fun. Its a nostalgia trip.
    Hindsight, not a great game, but the memories are great. ❤

    • @tinkerer3399
      @tinkerer3399 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Memories are what life is all about.

  • @towertooth456
    @towertooth456 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    There’s plenty of voice actors who worked on this game, though not a ton of lines.
    In the character select menu you could read each character’s description, and you would hear it read in their voices.

    • @julestheraccoon
      @julestheraccoon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was going to say this, too. There are WAY more than just 1 voice actor in this game.

    • @00Spiral007
      @00Spiral007 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah, hearing the bios was nice in this game. The music was fire too.

  • @Kuson2
    @Kuson2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The problem with TM3 is its both a victim of a short development cycle and the idea of "We can, therefore we should". "We can ditch the comic book style cutscenes and add cutting edge 3D animation". "We can add rollover physics and realistic steering mechanics". "We can take design liberties with already established characters". They then proceeded to half ass all of it because they didn't have a choice or the time to do any of it properly. Its honestly a Miracle that it came out even half as good as it did.

    • @worsethanhitlerpt.2539
      @worsethanhitlerpt.2539 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wonder why AXEL needed an animation to flip over, when hes basicly stuck in a giant GYROSCOPE why wouldnt he just turn his body right side-up

    • @jeremyallen5974
      @jeremyallen5974 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Errrrrrr..... the first game already HAD realistic steering and roll-over physics.
      They even showed it in the demo where a character almost gets wrecked when they hit a ramp at an awkward angle and flip like three or four times

    • @Kuson2
      @Kuson2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jeremyallen5974 yeah and it was terrible, thats why they gutted all of that in TM2.

  • @docholiday4129
    @docholiday4129 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This game just makes me feel bad for Mel McMurrin, he was such a good voice actor as Calypso and that's all he was ever famous for. What's worse is that 2 of those roles were associated with 2 of the worst games in the franchise.

  • @doopderp
    @doopderp ปีที่แล้ว +9

    As happy as I am for this! Just as eager to hear your thoughts on the show and it's direction.

  • @darkdemonwerewolf
    @darkdemonwerewolf ปีที่แล้ว +3

    19:15 Are you joking? I'd say sweet tooth has one of the best endings in small brawl. That freaking grin right before the final cutaway.

    • @TBP
      @TBP  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Small Brawl came out several months after Black

  • @StormDragonZ
    @StormDragonZ ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I remember having to make a decision between getting Twisted Metal 3 or Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus, and I picked Oddworld. Never played TM3. Later on, I got around to seeing how it was, and I do not feel bad anymore about my choice.

  • @Nahpax
    @Nahpax ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The clips at 5:20 and 20:45 unlocked a core memory. I can't tell you how many times I had to quit out and restart a level because my vehicle got stuck in a completely vertical position shimmying side to side.

  • @BleedForTheWorld
    @BleedForTheWorld ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I kid you not, when I was still in my early-mid teens in 1999, I was at Best Buy and I had the option to choose THIS game or Super Smash Bros for the N64. Guess which one I went for? I was a huuuuuuuuge Twisted Metal fan and I had to swallow my pride and selfishness that day because I still think back on how much I would have regretted getting TWISTED METAL 3 and how much it would have changed my life based on this decision because I got my buddies at the time into Smash Bros (4 dudes, 2 of them younger than us). They would come over my house and it would be A. BLAST. Other people had LAN parties or whatever but we had Smash Bros. My older brother would even come in and play with us at some point and that would be 6 dudes in a rather small space. It didn't last very long because the next year was the year that everyone went to a different school and I was the only one that didn't attend the school they went to. I guess you could say it was the exact opposite of the experience I had with them some several months before.
    To elaborate a bit further, it was my brother that convinced in the end because we would watch the Smash Bros. TV ad and we thought the game must be amazing. Before I left to the store and pick this up instead of TWISTED METAL 3, he said, "Get Smash Brothers! Don't get Twisted Metal!!". If you made it this far, thanks for reading.

    • @Mikewee777
      @Mikewee777 ปีที่แล้ว

      Smash Bros was a broken game with a weird three handle controller . At least Twisted Metal was balanced enough to prevent hackers from starting glitch tournaments .

  • @Mikewee777
    @Mikewee777 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The game objectives are unclear beyond : " Shoot at this box " .

  • @RaineAsteria
    @RaineAsteria ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was so much more a Vigilante 8 fan than I was Twisted Metal, but I always pay respects to what I think is the OG of the genre.

  • @timwardo5877
    @timwardo5877 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I genuinely pogged when i heard you mention a way to fix every Tm3 ending.
    I’m actually playing every game atm and ranking every single driver. I love TM3’s terrible endings but realizing i have to sit through so many…not looking forward to it

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh come on they're like 30 seconds long.

    • @timwardo5877
      @timwardo5877 ปีที่แล้ว

      ⁠@@KasumiRINAyes but the same 30 second cutscene with slight changes in what calypso says and what character fets bad ended…yeah its just going to get tiresome after the 5th one.

  • @GiNgertheman
    @GiNgertheman ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Twisted Metal 3 was my first game of the franchise I got to experience as a child but not even my nostalgia makes this game look good

    • @simonbelmont65
      @simonbelmont65 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Twisted Metal 2 is 100 times better than Twisted Metal 3.

    • @GiNgertheman
      @GiNgertheman ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@simonbelmont65 agreed

    • @fabiozonatto2554
      @fabiozonatto2554 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol whatever dood.

  • @littlezimty
    @littlezimty ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think "Regeneration" might have been intended to address the concern from the previous games where the endgame levels could feel like a 1v7 because computer players did little damage to each other. Spacing out the spawns means you're less likely to get overwhelmed by a bunch of enemies targeting you at the same time.

  • @garvensman
    @garvensman 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    True story: One day I was playing this, getting all the endings. Get to the Primevil fight, and it ended before I ever saw him. Yep, he fell down the hole on his own.

  • @rogeliorufin9204
    @rogeliorufin9204 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd like to think that Flower Power wasn't so much a serious potrayal of hippies, moreso thode celebrity types who act like they give a shit about the environment but only care about the clout they'll get if they do.

    • @jaysherman2615
      @jaysherman2615 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Flower Power was one of those weird people during the mid to late 90s that had this obsession with 60s style and fashion. It was kind of kicked off by Austin Powers, but had a start slightly earlier than that.

  • @typoking
    @typoking 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    when you are at about half-health, enemies will chase you. use this to your advantage by firing weapons backward at them. You can even get out ahead, do a quick 180, hit the ice-code, and freeze enemies before they can do you anymore damage, then lay into them until they're dead.

  • @clearmountain28
    @clearmountain28 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you are open to suggestions, could you do a discussion on twisted metal lost; in particular what you think of the change in the characters motivations (as well as the new character they added Severed Sam) and what you think they would have wished for and/or how the wish would have been twisted.

  • @Rocket_Skates
    @Rocket_Skates ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely hated the tonal shift in three and four. It was like a dark, gritty, edgy comic book being adapted into a Saturday morning cartoon.

  • @NoeIram
    @NoeIram ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a kid, I never owned TM1 but owned 2, 3, & 4. I never really saw the glaring issues of 3 as a kid which is why I occasionally swapped between 2 & 3 when I was itching to play. I played through a bit of TM4 but eventually quit that game as I could never beat Sweet Tooth and my usual cheese method of baiting cars onto the rollercoaster to get mowed down doesnt work, since the cart is destroyed when Sweet Tooth arrives. Completely forgot about the buddy car system and remembered how I would always use to and tried to keep my friend alive. That being said, TM3 did not age well in the slightest.

  • @LobsterPuncher
    @LobsterPuncher ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I actually love TM3. Almost as much as 2. Sure it was different, but I had a blast as a kid with this and still play it to this day from time to time.

    • @worsethanhitlerpt.2539
      @worsethanhitlerpt.2539 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      4 is better though it has a lot of fucked up issues. I still play 3 too and its frustrating as fuck with the cars going straight for the Health Items goddamn the coders
      for that

  • @InsaneStar7
    @InsaneStar7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I know this game is bad, but there are things that fans are wrongly accusing this game and 989 Studios of a couple of things they didn't do. Most infamous was calling Needles Kane, "Sweet Tooth" to the character and the vehicle, despite Twisted Metal 2 did that in his own ending. And Outlaw's Officer Carl changed his name to Buzz which again Twisted Metal 2 did that first until Head-On changed back to Carl.

    • @rayvenkman2087
      @rayvenkman2087 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not an uncommon phenomenon.

    • @LonelySpaceDetective
      @LonelySpaceDetective ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Even the first game has Calypso calling Needles "Sweet Tooth" in a pair of endings, and 2 IIRC also has Calypso referring to a bunch of other drivers by the name of their vehicle; indicating that they're not just car names but also the title or alias of the driver.
      Not to mention that "Sweet Tooth" _does_ works as a name for the clown in a way. Like is it really so unbelievable that people may take to nicknaming a serial killer who drives around in an ice cream truck "Sweet Tooth" or "the Sweet Tooth killer"?

  • @Cheeto65788
    @Cheeto65788 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Twisted metal 4 is a gem in my book. I don't care what anyone says.

    • @ulyssestyler9685
      @ulyssestyler9685 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      it's not awful but I think it's still one of the lower-ranking TM games. Still better than a lot of the "off-brand" car combat games imo.

    • @TheKongdoo
      @TheKongdoo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is surely underrated.

  • @AutisticMan2004
    @AutisticMan2004 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Regarding Outlaws ending, better twist idea, no crime because there's no such thing as laws anymore

  • @harryheathen4733
    @harryheathen4733 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey guys I'm going to give a speech about how I hate negativity and complaining so anyways here's my complaints about twisted metal

  • @NicolasOlivas
    @NicolasOlivas ปีที่แล้ว +34

    tw3 is my favorite. I always wondered why tw3 have so much backlash among the TW community . But I can see many of the points youve made. Still i had a blast most of the times I played, and probably since this was the only one I had when I was a kid, made difficult to compare with other games.

    • @RobotReg
      @RobotReg ปีที่แล้ว +6

      People hate the awful story and endings.

    • @super8bitable
      @super8bitable ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RobotRegAnd the very wonky gameplay

    • @NicolasOlivas
      @NicolasOlivas ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RobotReg i guess not understanding english till my late teens was good for something then 🤣🤣

    • @Itiswrittenkjv1611
      @Itiswrittenkjv1611 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@RobotRegthose ppl should be playing games for gameplay. You want a story read a book.

    • @Itiswrittenkjv1611
      @Itiswrittenkjv1611 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@super8bitablegameplay was solid

  • @WhipLashJimmyFrank
    @WhipLashJimmyFrank ปีที่แล้ว

    9 months basically building an engine from scratch is one thing.
    It’s also another thing when one of the mandatory levels is literally just a flat square with 1 elevated surface, that’s your helping.

  • @GNoMe610
    @GNoMe610 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have such fond memories of playing marathon TM2 co-op and deathmatch sessions with friends into the wee hours of the morning. This game also brings back strong feelings...
    What is the opposite of nostalgia?

  • @druid54us
    @druid54us ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Even as a kid I wondered why the fuck the cars on the intro keep swerving lol that was the actual cursed part for me

    • @ulyssestyler9685
      @ulyssestyler9685 ปีที่แล้ว

      Funnily enough that's how controlling the cars feels lol. But yeah it does make the cutscene look worse than the actual models do.

  • @stefcannon2580
    @stefcannon2580 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve just discovered your channel through these Twisted Metal videos, great job! I used to play TM3 with my school friend way back as he had a copy, but not since until yesterday when I got my own copy to help complete my TM set. I’ve been through the first few levels as Thumper, and somewhat enjoy it so far. Strange with him not having his flamethrower but variety can be good. I like the idea of flipping over but wish it was more like Vigilante 8 where you flip yourself back upright. Great to have more Calypso commentary though!

  • @technounionrepresentative4274
    @technounionrepresentative4274 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have not played many twisted metal games, this is one of the few that i have played what turned me off of it was the endings, i remember completing this for the first time as auger,
    I picked him because i liked his motivations displayed in his bio,
    The ending would have made more sense for nearly every other character even sweet tooth

  • @TrippingHawk
    @TrippingHawk ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honestly, a good handful of mid to late 90s games give me motion sickness now. I think it's due to them being played on much larger, clearer screens than what they were intended to be played on. I can play the original Half-Life on my old CRT for hours, but anytime I hook it up to my main TV, I get motion sickness within like 30 min.

  • @paulbuist9967
    @paulbuist9967 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't understand the hate for this game. I have great memories playing this with my brother and friends back in the day. I think TM3 had the best intro movie (even if the art style was a bit off), and the Rob Zombie soundtrack was awesome and totally fit the vibe of the game.

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA ปีที่แล้ว

      When I was a kid, I thought I am the only one hating it, and felt weird for liking 4 and 2 over it, but now consensus is different, and I think it's because TM3 is the most frustrating out of them? I dunno but I felt that I hate it despite having overall most decent graphics/design (1 & 2 graphics were outdated even back then and 4 had unmemorable landmarks and boring characters).

  • @RogueHero
    @RogueHero ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember playing twisted metal 2 & 3 with my homies in the 90s , man what a time to be alive. Im so happy the show is a success.

    • @brianlawl1
      @brianlawl1 ปีที่แล้ว

      the show sucks to people who love TM

  • @commandervile394
    @commandervile394 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm biased but Twisted Metal 3 was my first TM game and being around 10-11 years old at the time of receiving a Playstation 1 back in the 90's, Twisted Metal 3 also introduced me to my first real big interests in Industrial Metal/Rock music, such as Rob Zombie and Pitchshifter.

  • @BigSlick98
    @BigSlick98 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I actually like TM3. Not as good as 2 but for 9 months and all the development hell they went through they did a damn good job. Only problems I have is the endings and the cars flipping over sometimes too easily. The gameplay is really fun and that’s the most important thing.

  • @thenoblerot1511
    @thenoblerot1511 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love tm3, I enjoy the art style, soundtrack, and stages. The physics weren’t the best but it made you feel like more of a physical object instead of a voxel. Also there is voice acting in the character bios.

  • @sebastiancintron29
    @sebastiancintron29 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When you play games like Twisted Metal 2 or Black, going back to this game just shows how bad it truly is.
    Both tonally and gameplay wise.

  • @korhol2065
    @korhol2065 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Despite how bad the endings are, a few somehow elevate it to so bad it’s actually good
    Some like Auger are stupid while ones like outlaw are prettt funny because of that ridiculous premise, and the hell Michigan was pretty clever too. These endings just need either a new premise or just add more polish

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish original TM also kept the cinematic endings TBH, it's all very charming.

  • @KnownAsKenji
    @KnownAsKenji 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I actually like those cinematics a lot, the style is close enough to the old comic style to be acceptable, and for 1999 cel-shading (nigh-on unseen when basic Silicon like Beast Wars and ReBoot was the main popular thing) it pulls it off, at least in retrospect and a false nostalgia, I didn't play this or see these when I was young.
    I feel like SOME soul was put into that at least, compared to other elements like the Calypso portrait scenes with that weird facial animation and terrible reflection effects. THAT really brings the uncanny to the forefront. THAT looks amateur for sure.

  • @spanishsupafly
    @spanishsupafly ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Didnt the bios for each character have voice actors? I dont think Calypso was the only character who had a voice actor assigned to them.

  • @IAMTHESTARMAN
    @IAMTHESTARMAN ปีที่แล้ว

    Regarding using energy for reverse shots, it’s to keep you engaged in a battle and not simply run from battle the entire time. My brother was a Spectre main, and it was annoying as hell to chase him and only to get spammed.

  • @Proutbedaine
    @Proutbedaine ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You shared pretty much every single thoughts I had about the game when I played through it recently with every character and researched myself on it's development history.
    The good, like the bad and etc. Couldn't agree more on everything.
    Except the lil bit about TM4 at the end though which caught me a bit by surprise! Since personally I saw it as a big improvement in every single aspect to TM3. But again, missing the point thematically and also still not being as good as TM2 overall or TM1 in most aspects even.
    So I'm definitely pretty curious to see why it's the worse one for you and hear your opinion about it! Always enjoyed your reviews and I'm sure I'll enjoy that one too and you'll have an interesting angle on it.
    My best guess would be, based on your past reviews and your mentions of what you liked in the series (which among the many things was when the games playthrough were short and sweet), is that your biggest grippe would be that it overstays it's welcome by being 8 stages long on top of having boss fights at each stage? Which personally I both liked that aspect of it and kinda was annoyed at times with it too. Especially since I did it with all 22 characters + one custom car hahaha! But I guess that in itself shows my level of patience which is certainly more than most (and not that makes me better than anyone btw.) Now that I think about it, I think you mentioned that issue you had with it, before in one of your videos. But I'm curious if there's more to it too.
    So yeah, looking forward to that one! :)

  • @theinvincible316
    @theinvincible316 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As much as my dumb 11 year old self liked 3 back then, I probably got more use from it as an audio CD than a game. I felt so cool when I learned you could do that, it was like being in a secret club or something. And it was how I first discovered Rob Zombie. I don’t pretend to be a massive metalhead or anything, but I do still enjoy his music casually from time to time.
    Also, the only game that has made me motion sick was Assassins Creed Black Flag, that freaking boat…
    Great video, appreciate you sharing your thoughts, can’t wait for 4 and the show.

  • @markkroman4545
    @markkroman4545 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love how Spectre is quite literally driving a 2nd Gen. Dodge Viper lmfaooo

  • @christianschultz5016
    @christianschultz5016 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video!
    I feel like 3 and 4 fell into the typical problem that so many different franchises do which is an established storyline gets taken over by a team that misses the original point and gets lazy with the writing and the overall product, relying on the name to the the game.
    The best matching franchise I can think of that goes with this is Batman from the 90s.
    Tim Burton did an excellent job capturing the dark side of the comic and kept the tone. When 3 and 4 Came out, it felt like bad fanfiction and was less sedated, relying on campy effects to Tell the story.

  • @Apache616
    @Apache616 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Even though this was my introduction to the series i loved it and got into White Zombie because of it, I can still accept that it’s not the best in the franchise. That being said still leaving a “like” simply because i just love this channel.

  • @Theguy493
    @Theguy493 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My biggest gripe with Twisted Metal 3, its just a lesser 2. 4 at least did its own thing with the circus freakshow angle.

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I LOVED 4... after the initial shock of WTF characters. it was the only I could finish without cheats as a kid, it let you limited custom character creation (I could recreate Crimson Fury in a Lambo with better special) and the gimmicks in levels were fun... 3 I hated out of difficulty but some levels were real good.

  • @MadMax-el2el
    @MadMax-el2el ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The sound track that came with it at launch was "good"... i hated 989 after this abomination, the car flipping and sloppy controls drove me nuts
    But i still love the character endings. They are just soooooo fuq'en bad

  • @Clammiest
    @Clammiest ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I played all of them growing up and TM3 was by far my favorite! I never understood the massive hate for it. I loved the cars, the character bios (which btw, you said calypso was the only voice, every single character has a recorded bio in the character select screen), the levels are great, especially the secret level weapons that you have to find on certain levels, the secrets, the soundtrack, etc.. I honestly don't get it. It's amazing. 🤷‍♂️

    • @darbs3168
      @darbs3168 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Amen dude.. 4 was my favorite

    • @Clammiest
      @Clammiest ปีที่แล้ว

      @@darbs3168 Hell yea 4 was good too. Only weird thing about 4 to me was how shiny everything is 😂

    • @Clammiest
      @Clammiest ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JoziWOW They do get better, for the most part, as they go. It's like they get better, but each one always has something odd. Except Black. That one basically takes the cake over all.

  • @rihoonigan
    @rihoonigan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember wanting this game for Christmas but my older brother said he wouldn't get me any video games for a present... I had TM2 and created a cheat/code book in hopes my cousin would make an trade 😅 We never traded nor never had the chance to play it and I'm happy it played out that way. I think Vigilante 8 ended up coming out soon after and TM3,TM4 became an after thought until TM Black and Smal Brawl came out. Can't wait to see what you have coming up next! Also, Old school Attila goes so well with TM2 🤙

  • @IconicBoar097
    @IconicBoar097 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    granny dread's bio seemed to set up her ending of wanting to watch tv away from all the noise of the tournament only for the ending to be completely stupid i always imagined she'd wish to be able to watch tv in a quiet place and then calypso puts her on the moon or something similar

  • @KamisamanoOtaku
    @KamisamanoOtaku ปีที่แล้ว

    *Nitpick/Tangent:* Proceed only if you feel like it. XD
    @18:25 Capt. Roger's (Warthog's) Twisted Metal 2 ending only works because we _know_ Calypso is looking for any excuse to twist the wish. Your head and brain are parts of your body, ergo wishing for the body of a 20-year-old makes perfect sense. In fact, even if you know Calypso is going to try and twist the wish, it seemed the least likely to backfire.
    If Captain Roger had just wished to be 20 years old again, Calypso would have probably just legally (and retroactively) changed his birthday to February 29th. Okay, the math doesn't exactly work out to 20 on the dot, but considering the body versus head cheat, being 26-ish probably still counts as being 20. Or Calypso would remake his body so that everything was 20 years old... but still looked and functioned like his 105 year old body. XP Or include his _mind_ and in doing so, probably get him killed or into doing something unfortunate as he'd behave as if it was 1903 (assuming TM3 took place in 2008).

  • @TastySnackies
    @TastySnackies ปีที่แล้ว

    As a kid, I preferred the controls of TM3 over TM2. As an adult I can’t stand to play any Twisted Metal game because they all equally control poorly

  • @harryvass9018
    @harryvass9018 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Doubt you'll care but when I started my first job doing the night shift I loved listening to your videos and I loved this video the most it was great listening to this while I worked
    I have a better job now but I just wanted to say thanks for making videos like these that helped make that stressful job bearable

  • @hatboi_xd
    @hatboi_xd ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Twisted Metal 3 made my wife leave me.

  • @Absolhunter251
    @Absolhunter251 ปีที่แล้ว

    I may have missed this one. I only played TM1 and 2 and 4.
    But this was…wow, what? But on the flip side, I love the fact I get to see calypso with his VA from TM2.
    But wow, seeing this one… the sounds don’t have that punch that 2 had. 😮
    My fellow man, you are awesome and the only one I know who is another Twisted metal fan!
    Looking forward to more!

  • @swirlings3080
    @swirlings3080 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I just started getting into this series a few days ago and when i saw Twisted Metal iniatally i would logically asume it's more or less mature. However Twisted Metal 3 looks like it's made for babys compared to two.

    • @swirlings3080
      @swirlings3080 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm talking about the endings.

  • @Kiba845
    @Kiba845 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Now I'm going to scare you....
    This was the only TM game I got to play as a kid. I only got to play the game when I visited my cousin and he only ever got this one. But at that, we'd play it for sooooo long when visiting, it was a massive fave game of mine! I adore the TM brand purely because of this game.

  • @creativerealms
    @creativerealms ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had this friend in high school that insisted Twisted Metal 3 was superior to the first two games.

    • @Mikewee777
      @Mikewee777 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is superior .

    • @RobotReg
      @RobotReg ปีที่แล้ว

      Your friend is wrong

  • @combatking0
    @combatking0 ปีที่แล้ว

    We didn't get TM3 or 4 over here in the UK, so I was always interested in seeing what they were like.

  • @LilApe
    @LilApe ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TM3 was literally the 1st video game I ever played back in I think 98 or 99. I actually love it more than TM2. I would say TM4 is actually my favorite in the series.

  • @vibinrat8552
    @vibinrat8552 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Found this channel a few days ago and its how I learned of twisted metal. I just wanted to say thanks for introducing me to a really cool game series through your awesome content, tbp.

  • @vinegar3617
    @vinegar3617 ปีที่แล้ว

    A studio leaving a game publisher and an internally formed studio with three numbers in their name being tasked with continuing an IP they didn't start with, only to create middling or bad results? Sounds eerily familiar...

  • @90stalgiaTV
    @90stalgiaTV ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Twisted Metal 3 was fun as all hell then, and it’s still fun now. Will always be my favorite of the series. Funny enough, I remember the first time playing the other games and being disappointed.

  • @leonardopereira1704
    @leonardopereira1704 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TM3 has a special place in my heart as it was my introduction to the series 🥲

  • @articex
    @articex 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tm3 hands down my favorite in the series. Personally I would say my least favorite to play was TM Black, though it had some good stories. I also love the intro to tm3, and the game has one of the best soundtracks. The more we get into this video the more I just cant agree with your stance lol.

  • @scottfisher1311
    @scottfisher1311 ปีที่แล้ว

    I picked up the series over the past few days after admiring from a distance for years and seeing these vids be posted. I wanted to make my own opinion before seeing others. Playing all of them in order with only the last 2 missions in Twisted Metal PS3 to go, I find the series such a mixed bag. I liked 1, was mixed on 2, didnt like 3, despised 4 with a passion, was neutral on Small Brawl, Loved Black and have been bown away by PS3. Probubly contraversial to suggest a genre switch but id love to see a new Twisted Metal that plays like Jak X Combat Racing. Great Video Btw!

  • @ErrorDDR
    @ErrorDDR ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh hell yeah I was waiting for this. TM3 was such a weird experience, probably the first time as a child I was disappointed in a series.

    • @DrEarthwormRobotnik
      @DrEarthwormRobotnik ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I never felt hate towards a game until I got that fucking Sweet Tooth ending. Wasted an entire Christmas Break on that fucking game to get 12-14 shitty endings.

  • @lightyearpig12
    @lightyearpig12 ปีที่แล้ว

    This feels like the result of someone wishing for Calypso to get a new Twisted Metal game, only for Calypso to give them this instead.

  • @DarkGigaMan
    @DarkGigaMan ปีที่แล้ว

    TBP : wish me luck guys
    Calypso : your wish is granted -> gives him bad luck since he didn't specify good luck

  • @jamietolleson8973
    @jamietolleson8973 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    🙄 Twisted Metal 3 is amazing. I grew up playing this with my brother and best friend. It was always a blast. I’ve played it in recent years and it’s still fun. I don’t know how old you are, but you gotta lower your expectations for the graphical gameplay. In the 90’s this was pretty fucking cutting edge. 🤷🏼‍♀️ But I’ve been a longtime fan of Twisted Metal and I have high hopes that the show revives something and we get a new twisted metal game. It’s been 12 years since the last one came out and I’d kill for another one.

  • @BADWarning
    @BADWarning ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Twisted metal 4 is my personal favorite.

  • @packattackallday
    @packattackallday ปีที่แล้ว

    TM3 was my first in the TM series. Only played that, 4, and Black. The nostalgia of 3 keeps me coming back. The one thing that always irritated me was accidentally jumping or sending the freeze. So I randomly start jumping on the map for no reason…That and the lack of control and flipping over was always annoying. That said, I never got into TM4. In fact, I never played beyond the 2nd map. I just get/got bored of it. Can’t explain why as I recall the control of vehicles being a lot better.

  • @thethrashyone
    @thethrashyone ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a kid I remember renting this after having played the shit out of TM2 and thinking that it felt like a bit of a downgrade, if anything. The fact that it was an entirely different dev using an entirely new engine makes a whole lot of sense in retrospect.

  • @julestheraccoon
    @julestheraccoon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TM3 is actually my favorite one. It’s the only one I have a physical copy of still. The music, stages, and characters are all great. 1 and 2 feel way too “slippery” to me, much harder to line up shots and the characters are arguably less interesting. Most of the problems you complained about could be fixed by just “getting gud’. 😅 Like, for Christ’s sake, stay on your opponent and grab the health before they can whenever they start seeking it out. Or ration your ammo in anticipation for the regeneration wave. Adapt. Adjust. Just because something is different from what came before doesn’t make it objectively bad. And it certainly didn’t “ruin” anything.

  • @NintenDub
    @NintenDub 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It didn't ruin the series. It's just that 989 took over. 3 is a fine game, it just got away from the original 2, which are amazing. Still think 3 is pretty good and 4 also..much fun with other ppl

  • @USAirsoft
    @USAirsoft ปีที่แล้ว

    Been watching for a long while now, just wanted to say that I’ve been loving all your stuff!
    Can’t wait to see your review on the TM series on peacock. I really enjoyed it but had to turn my brain off a lot.

  • @metrosity5863
    @metrosity5863 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its crazy to see how big your channel has gotten. I still remember when you had 13k subscribers. Good Job!

  • @necessarychaos
    @necessarychaos ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Old man here I lived through all the twisted metal series and this one made me and my friends so mad because we thought the level design was great but the driving was nothing like tm2 also I like what you did there pulling the calypso saying twisted metal makes me sick