@@GFlight.916 D2 is the main game for both of them, and they're content creators, so yeah, they're going to make the same stuff. At the end of the day, it just comes down to who you prefer to listen to. Their livelihoods literally depend on them streaming and/or making videos about the stuff they play.
For PVP, I think Cross slept on Perpetual Motion for this thing. +20 Stability, +20 Handling, +20 Reload simply for moving around the map. Perpetual Motion + Zen Moment is a really fantastic dueling roll.
NOT compared to any other hand cannon that has those stats without even needing those perk then either them on top or explosive payload eots or moving target or all of these S tier perks
Perpetual motion is great honestly. Usually takes the same amount of time to proc to get into a gunfight, so its almost always up. If the thing that worries you the most about a weapon is its base stats, then dont use it. Sure there are better weapons, but the farmability of this is literally just play crucible. It only costs 1 crucible engram to focus.
The nadir trait gives it the secret sauce in crucible. It’s awesome on controller. I like it better than austringer and rose. There’s something special with the recoil animation and the nadir focus origin trait.
I went and got one when TFS dropped, it worked perfectly for my prismatic warlock build. I got slice/hatchling w/range MW on my second engram with shaxx. I've enhanced it and have about 8k kills on it. This gun slappps
i was so lucky getting this, my 3rd drop on the first day of the season was hammer forged, accurized, moving target, explosive payload and a range master work.
With how deadly melee build are right now on prismatic, I think your'e really overlooking how good upgraded Swashbuckler is. Get one melee kill and you get 33% damage. Enhanced lasts 7 seconds.
most prismatic melee builds (and most prismatic builds in general) barely involve gunplay. plus why would i use a primary that, even perk buffed, does less damage than a random exotic primary
@@majormeatshield9558 there are like 20 legendaries i can think of that either do more damage OR provide more utility in a melee build OR both than better devils
Ngl cross, i saw you had 3 videos about the recent drama, and was actually afraid too watch them/sick of the topic. This was a good refresh to see. Thank you.
Impatiently waiting. 100% positive Bungie are saving it for a content drought or well, a time like now when players are upset with the way Devs have been treated etc.
Cross buddy, you actually sound burned out in this video. Most likely due to what's been happening lately across Bungie. If so just take it easy, and thanks for all your coverage lately.
I got one with slice/hatchling and I use it on my threadling build in the Pale Heart with that threadling perk... it's SO MUCH FUN, literally every kill spawns one.
I have a few pvp rolls that I really like. Full bore, accurized, perpetual motion, elemental capacitor(void), range mw. Makes it sit at a healthy 75 range and then nadir snow balls it into the 80's then perpetual and elemental juice up all the other stats to usable levels.(favorite roll and what I consider to be the true 5/5 god roll) Extended, accurized, perpetual, zen, range mw. Very consistent feeling, I'd probably want hammerforged but fixing the 88 recoil direction is welcome. Extended, accurized, moving target, elemental capacitor(void), range mw. Same case as the one above but it's very consistent feeling, just lackluster handling.
My favorite pve primary this season. Slice + Explosive payload for the free damage and enemy staggers, as well with slice making the enemies do nothing. Works perfectly on all my prismatic builds too.
@Aztecross You need to get the rewind Deconstruct roll on Ros Arago, it's infinite ammo. This combo is also on parabellum and Yarovit. As a warlock without actium I truly don't reload that gun when firing at 1 target
I still have my original Better Devils from vanilla D2, with a single Crucible kill on it. Glad to see that it has gotten a much-needed rework and is a fair option now even if it isn't outstanding.
In PvP a lot of the time with threadling and thread of rebirth I see 2-3 threadlings on precision kills. While I’m regaining health after winning an engagement they are hitting the next guy, helping my teammates, or push enemies back from that res in trials. I like it a lot. LoL Slice is another opportunity to make a tangle and nuke it with the artifact mod.
Better devils just had some sauce I can’t explain. It’s just hits I’ve been using it since it’s original D2 Explosive Payload roll and I’m just happy they brought it back
I love this HC and i´m using combos in PvP like Perpetual/Opening, Moving/Zen Moment, Perpetual/Explosive also i tried Perpetual/Zen moment and man... It feels like Luna in the end
I used one with Rapid Hit/Explosive Payload in the GM this morning and I was surprised how good it worked for me. Its not amazing but it's not terrible either.
I got like 3 copies and all are awesome god rolls. 1). Demo / Pugilist and Explosive payload / Threadlings / Adrenaline Junkie This thing is awesome for grenade/melee regen, since demo/pugilist and threadlings synergize. Explosive is always good. 2). Slice and one for all / threadlings Slice and One for all is nice. Cross did explain these perks on video sections. These perks have good synergy. Slice and Threadling does not work :( Still looking for better version of Slice but this is my best for now. 3). Hammer Forge / Accurize / Rapid hit / Threadlings and Range MW. This is my PVP Godroll. I chose Threadlings over Elemental Capacitor because I like threadlings appearing when I dome someone. I use Dexterity and Reload mods to compensate for these low stats and so those Rapid Hit. You can use Elemental Capacitor if you need more stats.
I see Hatchling as an easier version of Dragonfly. The damage is delayed, but easier to proc and not as dependent on enemy positioning. The rapid kills especially adds a good amount of cleanup waveclear that’s useful for any build that would get use out of Dragonfly.
I’ve honestly fallen in love with Better Devils in PvP since it’s probably one of the best feeling HCs on controller despite its stats. Landed a Rapid Hit/Swashbuckler roll and it’s been great to use
Man I got a somewhat nasty Strand build on my warlock and my goodness!! That treaded blast with my The Calll with splice and some of the strand mods is some of the most fun I've had in this game. I get a crit then shoot the little strand ball and just watch everything die lol. I pair it with Glance and a arc waveframe GL with volt shit lmao. I've ran a few Strikes and nightfalls even onslaught and I usually have the most kills and a shit ton of orbs created. It's GLORIOUS!! I know I could make it better somehow but I'm a casual so i dont know how to do so right now. My casual brain fails me sometimes 😂
Lets start off by saying this gun is definitely made for PvE, and it ie a buildcrafters dream. This is the only Strand gun with Demo/Swash. It may sound odd, but this is the only weapon aside from The Navigator that makes the Grapple grenade useful in PvE. With specifically Syntho Strand Titan, and Prismatic Syntho Hunter, it will give you Unraveling Rounds, 33% damage buff (58 with prismatic fragment that makes you Radiant), reload your weapon and give your Grapple back in about 5-6 kills (3-4 with Buried Bloodline Devour). You can even bump it up uf youre a lucky Prismatic Hunter, as the explanation above with the combo Foetracer/Syntho on the Exotic, will bring it to 83% damage buff. I sincerely put down double special a bit bc of this gun
Dang, the sorrow and pain of the bungie news just bleeds through the video with the voice recording you have here. Theres always hope man, not idn destiny but beyond.
@@daveyselby7346 It was, at least for me, one of those weapons that on paper should be fairly mid but "feels" amazing due to the small model and the deterministic recoil (I think these were the first weapons to get it?).
PVP without doubt it's damn good! PVE it feels fantastic but there's really no perks that really pick it up for meta builds. I was genuinely excited for perhaps that Slice x Hatchling combo Better Devils has. Major Bummer!
As much as I like Kept Confidence, its perk pool is so ass. They only lend themselves to PvP but the problem with that is that there are already top dog PvP hand cannons.
I have the same exact roll I use on my Hunter. I like it, but don't use it that much, I can't put the call away 😂 I don't have the luxury of buried bloodline, I swear the game hates me!
I wish they didnt shit on kept confidence with the rolls it was given. What would be dope of bungie is to look at all the existing craftable weapons and update/add newer or favored rolls.
Now I want to try a Slice weapon paired with my Renewal Cyrtarachne ECI build. Will that really decrease outgoing damage from bosses by 90% for damage phases?!
I've been trying to get slice and hatchling for so long. I focused like 30 crucible engrams and still nothing. I hate how many perks it has on each column...
I really like better devils, but not as much as i love the call. i can't put away the call to use better devils, some of us don't have buried bloodline!
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: If you are playing on a last gen console, Explosive Payload is an objectively bad perk and will screw you over in PvP. This is something that every content creator with their $10,000 PC will not tell you because they simply haven't experienced it. For some reason if you're running 60fps or less, the explosion will obscure your target significantly more and for longer, making follow-up shots almost impossible to land.
Cross... cross ... cross ..... You need a hunter to explain the god roll of this gun for ya .... It's a strand answer to lucky pants ... ya warden's law is great but sometimes you want strand damage .... Reconstruction/ Explosive
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holy shit its him
And better devils of all things 😂
And it's a copy-paste of FalloutPlays
@@GFlight.916 D2 is the main game for both of them, and they're content creators, so yeah, they're going to make the same stuff. At the end of the day, it just comes down to who you prefer to listen to. Their livelihoods literally depend on them streaming and/or making videos about the stuff they play.
@@ogroguerc apologists are gross.
For PVP, I think Cross slept on Perpetual Motion for this thing.
+20 Stability, +20 Handling, +20 Reload simply for moving around the map.
Perpetual Motion + Zen Moment is a really fantastic dueling roll.
NOT compared to any other hand cannon that has those stats without even needing those perk then either them on top or explosive payload eots or moving target or all of these S tier perks
rapid hit is better
PC players bruh.
Perpetual motion is great honestly. Usually takes the same amount of time to proc to get into a gunfight, so its almost always up.
If the thing that worries you the most about a weapon is its base stats, then dont use it. Sure there are better weapons, but the farmability of this is literally just play crucible. It only costs 1 crucible engram to focus.
@@Tehkneekz Objectively false.
Not sure who doesn't know, but Slice can proc Stylish Executioner on Prismatic Hunter on every kill
Everything procs stylish executioners with primaatic hunter.
@@blackyonbiexactly lol. perks like incandescent and destabilizing rounds can do it in 2 kills and without having to use a class ability
literally everything procs stylish executioner
WHO needed to be told this 😭😂
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The nadir trait gives it the secret sauce in crucible. It’s awesome on controller. I like it better than austringer and rose. There’s something special with the recoil animation and the nadir focus origin trait.
You just don't have a good enough rose or austringer im guessing
Horrendous take. 1vs1 me for as long as you like. I'll bring my Austrunger, you bring Devils
Or hear me out guys, better devils just feels good for him
@@HarlequinJitsuI would dog walk your ass in a 1v1. Just shut up and let the dude enjoy his better devils
@@HarlequinJitsuhow is it a bad take? Handcannons are really weird where one that feels good to you may not feel good to someone else.
I went and got one when TFS dropped, it worked perfectly for my prismatic warlock build. I got slice/hatchling w/range MW on my second engram with shaxx. I've enhanced it and have about 8k kills on it. This gun slappps
I'm eating fries and okra
Okra is disgusting
Is the okra fried?
@@young5395 indeed
Damn that sounds good lol. Never had fried okra but I love em pickled
What's okra?
i was so lucky getting this, my 3rd drop on the first day of the season was hammer forged, accurized, moving target, explosive payload and a range master work.
With how deadly melee build are right now on prismatic, I think your'e really overlooking how good upgraded Swashbuckler is. Get one melee kill and you get 33% damage. Enhanced lasts 7 seconds.
I got swashbuckler with pugilist and I’m in love
most prismatic melee builds (and most prismatic builds in general) barely involve gunplay. plus why would i use a primary that, even perk buffed, does less damage than a random exotic primary
@@user-rj4pq7lm1nbecause in most melee builds you should be running tractor cannon
@@majormeatshield9558 you're not being serious right? melee builds in no way necessitate tractor
@@majormeatshield9558 there are like 20 legendaries i can think of that either do more damage OR provide more utility in a melee build OR both than better devils
Managed to snag a Pugilist/Swash roll. It slaps with my Strandlock build.
I bet
Ngl cross, i saw you had 3 videos about the recent drama, and was actually afraid too watch them/sick of the topic.
This was a good refresh to see. Thank you.
This was definitely recorded before all of that and he's just dropping it now.
I got super lucky with my Devils. Perfect Float and Zen Moment. When that Float kicks in, you Cant miss. And i love it.
I'd love to see pali come back with new perks
Impatiently waiting. 100% positive Bungie are saving it for a content drought or well, a time like now when players are upset with the way Devs have been treated etc.
I hope they bring it back its been a good while we last saw it in whitc queen😢
Pali with keep away 🙏🏻
Pali with repulsor and destabilize
@@Sauced_Egg 100% add those in the PVE. As mentioned above Keep Away would be a great addition for PVP. EOTS, Zen Moment, Opening Shot.
Cross buddy, you actually sound burned out in this video. Most likely due to what's been happening lately across Bungie. If so just take it easy, and thanks for all your coverage lately.
Such a nice feeling gun even with weak stats I’ve had tons of fun using it with strand hunter in pve
I got one with slice/hatchling and I use it on my threadling build in the Pale Heart with that threadling perk... it's SO MUCH FUN, literally every kill spawns one.
I have a few pvp rolls that I really like.
Full bore, accurized, perpetual motion, elemental capacitor(void), range mw. Makes it sit at a healthy 75 range and then nadir snow balls it into the 80's then perpetual and elemental juice up all the other stats to usable levels.(favorite roll and what I consider to be the true 5/5 god roll)
Extended, accurized, perpetual, zen, range mw. Very consistent feeling, I'd probably want hammerforged but fixing the 88 recoil direction is welcome.
Extended, accurized, moving target, elemental capacitor(void), range mw. Same case as the one above but it's very consistent feeling, just lackluster handling.
yeah personally i love better devils in PvP right now, even though it isnt up to par with other hand cannons really, it still feels GREAT
Thank you for getting back to the destiny content
some of us aren't terminally online with a dying game bruh.
Zen moment/ rapid hit turns this into one of the best feeling pvp weopons I've ever used
My favorite pve primary this season. Slice + Explosive payload for the free damage and enemy staggers, as well with slice making the enemies do nothing. Works perfectly on all my prismatic builds too.
Reconstruction and one for all on neutral gameplay is solid and doesn’t let down if you build for it. Really nice hc overall
@Aztecross You need to get the rewind Deconstruct roll on Ros Arago, it's infinite ammo. This combo is also on parabellum and Yarovit. As a warlock without actium I truly don't reload that gun when firing at 1 target
That one dude that had all his vault slots filled with Better Devil's must be so happy right now
I still have my original Better Devils from vanilla D2, with a single Crucible kill on it. Glad to see that it has gotten a much-needed rework and is a fair option now even if it isn't outstanding.
In PvP a lot of the time with threadling and thread of rebirth I see 2-3 threadlings on precision kills. While I’m regaining health after winning an engagement they are hitting the next guy, helping my teammates, or push enemies back from that res in trials. I like it a lot. LoL Slice is another opportunity to make a tangle and nuke it with the artifact mod.
Better devils just had some sauce I can’t explain. It’s just hits I’ve been using it since it’s original D2 Explosive Payload roll and I’m just happy they brought it back
I love this HC and i´m using combos in PvP like Perpetual/Opening, Moving/Zen Moment, Perpetual/Explosive also i tried Perpetual/Zen moment and man... It feels like Luna in the end
I used one with Rapid Hit/Explosive Payload in the GM this morning and I was surprised how good it worked for me. Its not amazing but it's not terrible either.
I’ve got pretty much every 5 of 5, my absolute workhorse is a 70 range demo and Swash roll!
I got like 3 copies and all are awesome god rolls.
1). Demo / Pugilist and Explosive payload / Threadlings / Adrenaline Junkie
This thing is awesome for grenade/melee regen, since demo/pugilist and threadlings synergize. Explosive is always good.
2). Slice and one for all / threadlings
Slice and One for all is nice. Cross did explain these perks on video sections. These perks have good synergy.
Slice and Threadling does not work :(
Still looking for better version of Slice but this is my best for now.
3). Hammer Forge / Accurize / Rapid hit / Threadlings and Range MW.
This is my PVP Godroll. I chose Threadlings over Elemental Capacitor because I like threadlings appearing when I dome someone.
I use Dexterity and Reload mods to compensate for these low stats and so those Rapid Hit. You can use Elemental Capacitor if you need more stats.
Got 3 good perk rolls, all 3 with Hatchling, 1 with Sever, another with Pugilist, and 3rd with Demo.
Got rolls for any strand build.
I see Hatchling as an easier version of Dragonfly. The damage is delayed, but easier to proc and not as dependent on enemy positioning.
The rapid kills especially adds a good amount of cleanup waveclear that’s useful for any build that would get use out of Dragonfly.
I’ve honestly fallen in love with Better Devils in PvP since it’s probably one of the best feeling HCs on controller despite its stats. Landed a Rapid Hit/Swashbuckler roll and it’s been great to use
Man I got a somewhat nasty Strand build on my warlock and my goodness!! That treaded blast with my The Calll with splice and some of the strand mods is some of the most fun I've had in this game. I get a crit then shoot the little strand ball and just watch everything die lol. I pair it with Glance and a arc waveframe GL with volt shit lmao. I've ran a few Strikes and nightfalls even onslaught and I usually have the most kills and a shit ton of orbs created. It's GLORIOUS!! I know I could make it better somehow but I'm a casual so i dont know how to do so right now. My casual brain fails me sometimes 😂
Lets start off by saying this gun is definitely made for PvE, and it ie a buildcrafters dream.
This is the only Strand gun with Demo/Swash. It may sound odd, but this is the only weapon aside from The Navigator that makes the Grapple grenade useful in PvE. With specifically Syntho Strand Titan, and Prismatic Syntho Hunter, it will give you Unraveling Rounds, 33% damage buff (58 with prismatic fragment that makes you Radiant), reload your weapon and give your Grapple back in about 5-6 kills (3-4 with Buried Bloodline Devour).
You can even bump it up uf youre a lucky Prismatic Hunter, as the explanation above with the combo Foetracer/Syntho on the Exotic, will bring it to 83% damage buff.
I sincerely put down double special a bit bc of this gun
Great now its back, its already FILLED UP MY VAULT
So I play a lot of 6s. I like the chaos it provides. I still see a lot of Rose’s… why don’t I see more austringers? I love that handcannon!
Pugilist hatchling goes so hard on prism warlock. Devour gives you plenty of grenades and it’s nonstop ability spam
reconstruction/hatch for my swarmers build. love it.. no reloading ever
Man better devils just feels so good it's hard to not want to use it sometimes lol
I know this is off topic but this Sightline Survey with enhanced Triple Tap & Voltshot is a beast! So much fun to shoot
Maybe so, but Posterity with voltshot/frenzy is hard to put down.
@@muzak313 agree
better origin trait too
@@Damian-1701 fr
I'm happy they finally brought it back before the end.
Using hatchling in pve with this gun feels so satisfying
In year one that was my go to gun and I just tried a new one I recently got and immediately went from gold 3 to gold 1
Reconstruction + deconstruct is my go to go roll.
You never run out of ammo with that thing. And your magazine size is above 30+ rounds.
Finally got demo/hatch and I'm cookin on grenade returns
Dang, the sorrow and pain of the bungie news just bleeds through the video with the voice recording you have here.
Theres always hope man, not idn destiny but beyond.
midnight coup > kinetic tremors + firefly
I can deal like 1 and half million with only one full mag by using luckypants
the true godroll is
Left:
Reconstruction
Pugilist
Demolitionist
Right:
Hatchling
Explosive Payload
Opening Shot
Recon/Opening for pvp
everything else for pve
i have a slice + hatchling roll i love for pve and then i have another with 5/5 for pvp and opening shot its sooo crispy
But Cross, threadlings cause targets to unravel into tangles.. and this season tangles make big badaboom.
you went off that map at 16:12 lmao also this vid made me sad since i love this weapon in pvp enlightened and explosive with all the range perks
I got a pugilist/swashbuckler roll and I love it
I got one with explosive payload and rapid hit. Not the greatest, but it's been working with overload this episode
I really like it, the model still makes me miss my Service Revolver😢
I don't have kept confidence 😂 i need this weapon
I have found success in duels with explosive payload + perpetual.
Cross you didn't even include Kept Confidence in that comparison chart for kinetic slot 140s. It outstats all of them save for austringer.
is kept confidence really that good?
@@daveyselby7346 It was, at least for me, one of those weapons that on paper should be fairly mid but "feels" amazing due to the small model and the deterministic recoil (I think these were the first weapons to get it?).
sadly that shit should just be kinetic, and not strand.
PVP without doubt it's damn good! PVE it feels fantastic but there's really no perks that really pick it up for meta builds. I was genuinely excited for perhaps that Slice x Hatchling combo Better Devils has. Major Bummer!
As much as I like Kept Confidence, its perk pool is so ass. They only lend themselves to PvP but the problem with that is that there are already top dog PvP hand cannons.
Slice, explosive payload is excellent on hunter.
I have the same exact roll I use on my Hunter. I like it, but don't use it that much, I can't put the call away 😂 I don't have the luxury of buried bloodline, I swear the game hates me!
@9:44 Imagine using Once Quiet Moment 😂
16:59 that was beautiful
I wish they didnt shit on kept confidence with the rolls it was given. What would be dope of bungie is to look at all the existing craftable weapons and update/add newer or favored rolls.
So you’re telling me it’s super difficult to farm because of all the perks and it has worse base stats than everything else?
This is my main pve gun love it enhanced demo and working on enhanced one for all
That should have been the base behavior of tangles
everyone panicking about the state of Destiny for the future, meanwhile I’m finally enjoying other games and have time for them 😭
Try Moving and Elemental Capacitor on it
ah better devil. how i have not miss you
Mediocre Imp
@@Barleh Less-than-average fiend
I love this gun and have hard time not using it.
when talking about god rolls though it can hit that coveted 100 range stat too.. which i think is why it is so revered among pvp players...
Well, it was one hell of a ride, boys.
We still riding bruh tf
I personally am very excited about the news. About time somebody cleaned house at bungie, maybe Sony or whoever can get that house in order.
Everyone needs to relax lol.
Bungie needs to rebuild. Destiny is all.
@@Kastor0311 ain’t gonna be a clean house till Pete goes away.
@@Envaysion yea but this is progress
I've got a reco and explosive and its feel fine
Wish i would have kept my OG one. Overflow and EP
Only one is perpetual & Elemental... High stability...
Otherwise you may as just shoot something else.
I miss the 180 hand cannon
I'm pissed it lost 5AA to the barrels instead of sights. It really should have +5 in exactly every stat to be miarginably desirable these days.
This game needs to go on super sale if they want more people to buy into it.
Now I want to try a Slice weapon paired with my Renewal Cyrtarachne ECI build. Will that really decrease outgoing damage from bosses by 90% for damage phases?!
I wonder if Xur or Banshee will ever sell kept confidence? 🤔
“How are we going to make your 323rd drop of Better Devils better?” - Luke Smith
I opened up chest in the pale heart for over two hours.
Only to discover zero I mean zero exotic class items did bungee take them out.
I've been trying to get slice and hatchling for so long. I focused like 30 crucible engrams and still nothing. I hate how many perks it has on each column...
“…including my Palindrome that you all deleted!” Still hurts doesn’t it?
Cross you didn't have to reopen the Deconstruct nerf wound :(
What about opening shot/rapid hit accuracy rounds high caliber rounds reload master work?
10:40 beastie boys??
I got a 5/5 first one and I don’t play PvP. I have the old ones though
Omg Aztecross does content that isn't click bait and drama?! Color me impressed.
?
Thirsty for some negative attention huh?...
I really like better devils, but not as much as i love the call. i can't put away the call to use better devils, some of us don't have buried bloodline!
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:
If you are playing on a last gen console, Explosive Payload is an objectively bad perk and will screw you over in PvP.
This is something that every content creator with their $10,000 PC will not tell you because they simply haven't experienced it. For some reason if you're running 60fps or less, the explosion will obscure your target significantly more and for longer, making follow-up shots almost impossible to land.
I've kept 2 rolls for PVE, but any good HC in that slot will beat it in PvP.
Cross... cross ... cross .....
You need a hunter to explain the god roll of this gun for ya ....
It's a strand answer to lucky pants ... ya warden's law is great but sometimes you want strand damage ....
Reconstruction/ Explosive
PvE use in my future. I never liked kept Confidence, not sure why.
I’ll be doing some PvP to go for a hatchling role at least.
Editor: why didn't you let us see Cross fall to death on Cathedral of Dusk 😭
Guys i have a serious question
AFTER all we learned this weak
do yall still want to play destiny ?
farming max range on this gun really sucks, i have about 12 rolls and none on the 3rd/4th column suck
they bring back a 7 year old gun. But the CEO has 20+ cars worth 2.5mil USDs
RIP Pali . Y'all are EVIL for making Cross delete his god roll 🤣
They need to buff these perks
First one i got was rapid hit hatchling