One thing that annoys me about storygraph is that books in languages other than English (well at least German and French) are often not on there, even if they are quite popular and adding via ISBN often doesn't work, so they have to be added manually. It's not the end of the world obviously and understand that it's going to get better as more users join but it is definitely a bit annoying...
@@KrisMF yeah a lot of people don't seem to realize it (which is obviously fine, if you read in English and the site is in English, you'd have to go out of your way to figure this out!) The issue will probably fix itself as more people join the site but it's one of storygraph's main drawbacks for me at the moment. I still use it but I do get annoyed at it sometimes (especially when importing via ISBN doesn't work)... Plus I can imagine it'll take a while depending on the language. While storygraph's catalogue for French and German will probably grow relatively fast, I could see that not being the case for languages that are more uncommon (on a global scale).
A year ago the site was still new and the database of books was quite small, I'd love to see you give it another try and see if you like it better now. I read in English, Norwegian and Danish and though there are some editions that have to be added manually, I can usually find them in the SG database
Dont know how it was a year ago vs now but adding books to StoryGraph is way easier than with Goodreads, and as the userbase grows it’ll only get better and better. I predict that one of these days there will be a boom like there was with Letterboxd for film. Especially if Goodreads insists on being a broken website+app
Since you've written this comment the database has increased substantially. There's an army of volunteer librarians from all over the world who have been adding and cleaning up the database, and I can tell you that we've been adding a lot of non-english books. Give it a try if you are still interested. A lot of new features have also been added since.
Could you explain the Western vs. Eastern plot/character driven differences a bit more? I don't quite get what the difference is? You said not focused on big plot events but does that mean more focused on character (which I would then just call character-driven like a character study type book?) or something else entirely? The Eastern novels I have read I would mostly call character-driven (Convenience Store Woman, The Vegetarian, Norwegian Wood, Kim Jiyoung born 1982 amongst a couple others, so definitely have not had much exposure and have only read ones that are also popular in the West!). Would you use a different term (and if so, which one)? I don't mean to inconvenience you but I would love to learn more about this! Thanks :)
hi!! I think a lot of non-western books I've read have been East Asian authors, which as you've said, tend to be driven by character experience (internal conflict) rather than plot (external conflict)--not all! but just the ones I've read. there's a Japanese writing structure thats called "kishotenketsu" which is: "introduction, development, twist, conclusion" which contrasts the common western structure of "set up, inciting incident, rising action, climax". the former also doesn't necessarily focus on the external conflict, but more the emotional/mental journey the character goes on. of course this isn't exclusive to eastern literature, but just something that I've seen in many of the non-western stories that get popular in the west. a book I'd recommend that kind of dives into this topic is "Craft in the Real World"! it's a writing craft book, but still very interesting in general because it talks a bit about how our expectations of what makes a "good" narrative are very shaped by our cultural backgrounds and biases. :)
Hi! Storygraph isn’t used to read books, only to keep track of which books you’ve read and review them :) You can go to the website and make an account: app.thestorygraph.com/
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there's a forms you can fill up to have automated recommendations
Oooh, this was so interesting! 🤌
I used both and Story graph stats features are amazing
I looove the storygraph! So happy its getting more popular
While the questions are subjective i think the stats are interesting to see how readers perceive a book
@@holetariat Good point!! I think it's a really interesting feature :)
In the reading challenge section you can also hit explore and there is a section of challenges based in promts or specific book titles.
I haven't heard of storygraph, I don't think. thanks for this video. Interesting, something I will have to look into.
One thing that annoys me about storygraph is that books in languages other than English (well at least German and French) are often not on there, even if they are quite popular and adding via ISBN often doesn't work, so they have to be added manually. It's not the end of the world obviously and understand that it's going to get better as more users join but it is definitely a bit annoying...
good point! I never noticed or considered that since the majority of books I read are in English!
@@KrisMF yeah a lot of people don't seem to realize it (which is obviously fine, if you read in English and the site is in English, you'd have to go out of your way to figure this out!) The issue will probably fix itself as more people join the site but it's one of storygraph's main drawbacks for me at the moment. I still use it but I do get annoyed at it sometimes (especially when importing via ISBN doesn't work)...
Plus I can imagine it'll take a while depending on the language. While storygraph's catalogue for French and German will probably grow relatively fast, I could see that not being the case for languages that are more uncommon (on a global scale).
A year ago the site was still new and the database of books was quite small, I'd love to see you give it another try and see if you like it better now. I read in English, Norwegian and Danish and though there are some editions that have to be added manually, I can usually find them in the SG database
Dont know how it was a year ago vs now but adding books to StoryGraph is way easier than with Goodreads, and as the userbase grows it’ll only get better and better. I predict that one of these days there will be a boom like there was with Letterboxd for film. Especially if Goodreads insists on being a broken website+app
Since you've written this comment the database has increased substantially. There's an army of volunteer librarians from all over the world who have been adding and cleaning up the database, and I can tell you that we've been adding a lot of non-english books. Give it a try if you are still interested. A lot of new features have also been added since.
Could you explain the Western vs. Eastern plot/character driven differences a bit more? I don't quite get what the difference is? You said not focused on big plot events but does that mean more focused on character (which I would then just call character-driven like a character study type book?) or something else entirely? The Eastern novels I have read I would mostly call character-driven (Convenience Store Woman, The Vegetarian, Norwegian Wood, Kim Jiyoung born 1982 amongst a couple others, so definitely have not had much exposure and have only read ones that are also popular in the West!). Would you use a different term (and if so, which one)?
I don't mean to inconvenience you but I would love to learn more about this! Thanks :)
hi!! I think a lot of non-western books I've read have been East Asian authors, which as you've said, tend to be driven by character experience (internal conflict) rather than plot (external conflict)--not all! but just the ones I've read.
there's a Japanese writing structure thats called "kishotenketsu" which is: "introduction, development, twist, conclusion" which contrasts the common western structure of "set up, inciting incident, rising action, climax". the former also doesn't necessarily focus on the external conflict, but more the emotional/mental journey the character goes on. of course this isn't exclusive to eastern literature, but just something that I've seen in many of the non-western stories that get popular in the west.
a book I'd recommend that kind of dives into this topic is "Craft in the Real World"! it's a writing craft book, but still very interesting in general because it talks a bit about how our expectations of what makes a "good" narrative are very shaped by our cultural backgrounds and biases. :)
@@KrisMF aah thank you so much! will definitely look into that more and see if i can get my hands on the book :)
i subbed to you literally a few days ago, and I'm here to say hi, hello... and I'm first 😈‼️
Yay!! Hello!!! ☀️
@@KrisMF helloo 💖‼️
Can u teach me to how to read a book from story graph? Pleases I really wanted to read now
And to download it? Please 🥺🙏
Hi! Storygraph isn’t used to read books, only to keep track of which books you’ve read and review them :) You can go to the website and make an account: app.thestorygraph.com/