Gaming on a Single-Core Processor?!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ส.ค. 2024
- - The title says it all! Can it be done? Prepare yourselves for rather dismal benchmark results.
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Framerate is great when nothing is being rendered!
yes it can run crysis 3! but the only thing that rendered was the guns for some reason..
everything had stealth engaged ... maximum immersion
lol didnt think gta 5 would fail as bad as it did
thought it would load, but run like complete shit
sadly crytek is not famous for not rendering things. Rockstar with their RAGE are known for that.
..."for some reason"
XD
This is not what i have in mind. When you said single core i thought you would use pentium 4 or other processor with a real single core design.
The problem with that is the performance would be pretty obvious. Terrible, so the point of the video was using a more powerful core to show what would happen since it could handle a greater load of things which is what newer programs are designed for.
you are thinking of a penium D Killer Keemstar
or it had only Hyper-Threading technology showing two cores but in reality had one ?
Burned i don't think pentium 4s had hyper threading. pretty sure that came out when the i series happened.
oh wow ive never even heard of those.
1:12 dat glasses habit tho
lol. That happens to me.
Happens to me all the time whenever I don't wear my glasses.. xD
When I don't wear my glasses and my eye itches I always go under my "glasses" and I look weird doing it lol
Phantom glasses.
lol I do the same thing...
it looks like the games arent optimized for singe core. There is no way 1 core of modern CPU will give you 1 fps, its unrealistic, the games are just "broken" in this sense and not intended to play this way
There "is a way," and I just proved it right here. The games aren't broken. They just can't force that much compute data down a single lane. You'll see in Part 2 that hyperthreading makes a HUGE difference.
+Science Studio I'd imagine that in a well optimized game running it on a single core would be at worst 1/8th the fps of a 6700k. I'd imagine something else is going on behind the scenes in ashes that is giving you 0.1 fps.
+Science Studio the way you deal with the people that doubt your videos is awesome😂 it's a part of the reason I've been here since 50,000
where did I say something negative about the video? I am a computer engineer and I stated my opinion about the single core performance in games.
RobosergTV you didn't say anything negative. You just contradicted the carefully produced video and contradicted a pretty damn smart guy as many people in the comments for the videos on this channel do. It's entertaining to watch him deal with people that make comments like yours. That's what I meant
1:10 he hit maximum nerd mode and had to push up his invisible glasses
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haha
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Now, try playing Arma 3 on one core! oh, wait...
perfect optimization....
Lmao won't even load
arma 3 only uses like 1 core tbh. So I don't evern think it would be that bottlenecked.
What does the rest of the OS use then?
More than one program can use the same core, your OS schedules its time between all the programs that want to process things.
1 core😂. i game with 1gb ram in my 2004's pc😂
its doable my intel I will load up WoW takes 5 minutes only gets 10 FPS but I was insanely surprised
at least u have a pc....I'm using the public libarys computers
+Andy yeah of course you are
if you buy 1 part at a time its very do able to make a PC
The best thing to do is just save up for some time as it takes JUST as long as buying 1 part at a time. If you buy it all at once you will get the best and newest parts. Trust me.
PS: Your spelling is horrible.
crysis on a single core
I can literally hear the pc cry when running 'cry'sis.
your profile picture matches your comment perfectly
i had Crysis running on single core Athlon 64 with 1gb ram and a x1950 xtx, 1024x768 medium settings, finished the game with console framerate, 20/30 most of the time
The original Crysis is nearly COMPLETELY single-threaded. Which explains its sometimes absurd behaviour on modern multi-core systems.
Yes, Crysis runs good on single/dual-core, but needs 2gb to 3gb ram to run without issues, 1gb is a nightmare...
I had to play Minecraft, and Webkinz for 5 years with a single core. I didn't know those games were able to go past 6 FPS
i played minecraft with about 60-80fps on my old pentium 4 PC an on servers the frames got up to about 200-300 lol
+Kim Justin Nagel got those settings turned down huh?
Not really.... Played with 6 chunks on fancy and on the Server i could even use shaders with about 40-60fps
Kim Justin Nagel Your Pentium 4 ran shaders? yeah okay bud. maybe if you had a good gpu but why would you have a good gpu and a shit cpu
Ask my grandpa... He gave me his pc and He had a Pentium 4 + HD5770+4GB DDR.... I OCed it to 4Ghz and it ran like that.
1:14 lol you adjusted your imaginary glasses
Habit hahah
Haha that's what I used to do when I started wearing contacts.
+Science Studio that was soo awkward to watch😂
You should try 3 core vs 4 core or 2 cores with hyper threading. Or 3 hyper threaded cores vs just 4 cores with no hyper threading. The possibilities are endless.
2core hyper thread actually works really well, I don't play cities skylines or anything like that though
Justin Mckowen yeah its the same as a i3.
He shouldn't try 2 with Hyperthreading, he should try 1 with Hyperthreading.
The possibilities are not endless, there's a total 8 possible variations.
***** you're a downer.
The Ashes benchmark looked like a Powerpoint presentation...
LOL
Yes I fucking love these types of videos. (testing games on wierd hardware like this)
For anyone wondering, what happened is that the CPU he plugged in was so slow, it had to send out an emergency message to the rest of the computer parts to slow down, and they complied to protect the CPU from melting from being overworked. This is what you probably know as "bottle-necking". On top of that, the CPU only does complex mathematics and instructions very slowly, and with that old CPU, it could only do so much, after the fact.
^ This guy.
+Science Studio XD
Sucks to be wrong, there's no such thing as an emergency message to slow down. There's a scheduler in the OS but that's it. I'd say it's mostly down to scheduling and bus bandwidth.
streaky08 What do you think made the schedule? The ram? No. That kind of thing is an executive order, and that is something the CPU does.
Scheduling is the job of the OS kernel not the cpu itself. Just to add to this - a modern os with a modern scheduler, if you throw a single core at it you'll get interrupts for days due to schedulers prioritising short running tasks and it will perform like *ass* relative to the overall potential of that core if all things were equal. A fairer test would be to set affinity of the software to one core then the scheduler wouldn't interfere with the game's process.
Should've tested it on Minecraft for the fun of it since it's a CPU intensive game as well, due to Java being a bad but creative platform.. xD
It's not really that CPU intensive if you want high framerates. The graphics card is what matters the most in that game IMO. Any modern CPU can play it fine.
There is a thousand ways to play minecraft, and one of them is mods, one more is having farms... one more is having rendering distance above 12 chunks.... any of those instances is a very fucking intensive cpu game
+W0RLDc1berGAM3S Thank you for making me not go into a mental breakdown in my own head.. I thought for a moment that it was a GPU intensive game and just went on a search to see a comparison of without and w/ a GPU for it haha.
+Nicholas Li I guess you haven't play Minecraft yet . I test my crappy old i3-550 @ 3.85GHz run on single core with a old GT 630 @ 908/1812 with 6GB RAM @ 1600mhz run old games such as
1)GTA San Andreas get avrg 90 fps max setting no problem + 8 mods
2)Need 4 Speed MW 2005 106 fps max setting
3)Left 4 Dead 2 40-60 fps no problems
4)SCP 27-38 fps
5)Minecraft (lag spikes) (1fps - 16fps) (lowest setting) but after a few minutes it optimized well and run 60-80 fps high setting (12 chunk + fancy setting )(Optifine) but when I run my 100 mods it surprising me I get 20-35 fps but eventually it crash. (sorry for my bad English , don't judge me :))
TheXtremeCommander//CommanderDell I get better frame rates with a Pentium G3258 and 750 Ti than a 4690K and no discrete gpu. Source: Personal experience.
I think you should add the game "Space Engineers" onto your benchmark, because the game is VERY graphics heavy, and the player base growing daily.
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report the vid
Ali Abdallah
Greg is too awesome for that though, i'm in a dilemma.
Be neutral like switzerland.
Ashley Williams
Be rude somewhere else please?
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actually I think the scores are inaccurate because you just turned down a multi core processor to a single-core processor and didn't use a proper single core processor
I clearly said in the video that the L3 cache and frequency would remain constant. These are accurate results, all other things equal.
Sure about that, as sometimes multi core CPU's have low single core performance
Not in the case of the i7 6700K. Every Skylake processor will have a near-equivalent single-core performance tally (Geekbench is an example). I've owned every single one of them, and they all score about the same.
Thats good to hear, still better I said it before some rude guy comes around pointing it out.
+Ralph Bromley not the mainstream i7s and i5s, maybe the 10+ cores i7s extreme (relatively slow due to lower clocks) or the AMD processors
Do you usually use your phone for a mic on this style of video, or is this part of the 30 days of Apple thing? I'm really shocked at how good it sounds, though.
Doesnt he have a blue yeti mic?
Wasn't using it as a mic at all through this video, just recording his voice alongside the video
I've seen him do it when he's out in Best Buy and stuff in older videos.
Definitely when hes out, that makes sense, but in his room he has a Yeti.
Caliden I assume because he wasn't facing the yeti
I love how you go ahead and put ideas before empirical testing. People debate about merits of multi-threading, multi-core being worth it. You actually went ahead and proved it. +1 to you sir !
I wonder how would Amd Fx processor do with one core?
Same thing
It wouldn't do anything, wouldn't even run.
+Shane Bogdanowitz definitely not.
Heyyo, well it has a much weaker single core performance due to lower instructions per clock, so I would imagine an AMD FX processor could be anywhere from 25% to 50% slower... This test that Greg did was more or less out of curiosity since he's not using an actual single core processor from 2005 or earlier heh. :P
But yeah, nowadays from Intel the smallest core count available is two and from AMD it's two in APUs... so definitely two cores is the bare minimum these days for most modern games.
Total War: Warhammer is an anomaly since the series has been historically very single-core based and not multithreaded properly (as my experiences with Total War: Shogun 2 have also pointed out to me as well) so that could be why it works mostly fine on a single core CPU as it was only with Total War: Warhammer that the Creative Assembly game devs wanted to make the game engine better with multithreaded CPUs.
+Marc Bourgoin My question is also out of curiosity.
Thats how you can enjoy the greatness of cinematic gameplay.
Who needs to buy a dedicated mic anyways, when you have an iphone?
i was pretty surprised how well it worked lmao
The Quality was pretty great
but wouldn't that mean his mic actually records in stereo, rather than mono converted to stereo unlike so many other phones
If you have a single physical membrane - you will record mono. End of story. For stereo you need multiple mics (2or more) with an offset. Not familiar with what the iphone's setup is, but I've noticed that most modern phones do very well with audio these days. My Lumia 950XL does very well while I haven't yet tested my OnePlus3.
ExtraPIXELFLUX get an LG V series. Audiophile grade
i like how you went back to the basics in terms of a recording setup , get your brother and a phone and thats all you need to get started on youtube
Even this gets 60+ fps in GTA V...
90% of everything was invisible...
That's because the GPU had to do basically nothing
Gta v is intensive on your gpu. Not so much the CPU but you atleast need dual core
MattVideo Productions what are you talking about.
It was actually the GPU who got the FPS, that processor was being crushed..
"That's Kyle, he sounds like he just woke up even though it's 3 in the afternoon"
Sounds like a man after my own heart
ONE ENABLED CORE IN MULTICORE CPU DOES NOT REPRESENT ONE CORE CPU!
It simulates a single core Skylake CPU, save cache. Do your research.
run some emulators sometimes as a benchmark (ps2, psp, bluestacks etc.)
+Science Studio
+Science Studio savage
Yes, it really does. None of the other 3 cores on the die are active, meaning they can in no way contribute to the processing power of the CPU itself. This is the closest you will find to represent a "modern" single core CPU. The most recent "true" single-core CPU that I can recall was an Athlon 2.8Ghz solution back in the Phenom days.
Intel core i1 6100?
So this might sound weird but Greg you have some of the most beautiful eyelashes I have ever seen (no creepiness intended).
Also I like the auctioneer impression at the end, you could be one if the whole engineer and the youtube thing doesn't work out. ;)
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channel keeps getting better and better. Great to see it keep growing
He may just be the most handsome nerd on TH-cam
You do not need to disable the cores and hyperthreading on your bios! You can simply do it within the task manager, by setting the cpu affinity only to one core (hyperthread is seen as a separate core).
Shoulda done World of Warcraft. It only uses 1 core -_-
No. That would be boring.
+RafiniTCG lol
World of Warcraft uses up to 6 cores. but your usage will look like this
core 1 100%
core 2 80%
core 3 50%
core 4 20%
core 5 & 6 10-20%
Mine looks like 100 %, 20 %, 20%, 20 %.
So it fully uses first core and the rest of the tasks divides evenly between all other cores.
idk what processor youre using but mine is at 80-90 on 1 core then the rest are all at around 5%
Dude, congrats on 100,000 subs!
Worst part is, all of my computers only have one of something. One has 1 Ghz, another has 1 Gb of Ram, and the last only have 1 core.
Pyro 1 nasa supercomputer?
I've always thought about this in my head and well, it's nice to see a video of something a day after it came to my mind, love the video as always man!
Wtf you have 100k subs now? You had like 4k last time I was here
You tried pushing up glasses with none on... relatable as hell.
Imagine if you trolled someone by doing this >:D
seems pretty dope, imma cop myself a badass single core pentium for running gta v max setting with 2 gtx 1080's. sound good guys?
Games needs at least 2 cores on Intel, or 1 core + 1 threat.
Intel manages games by dropping GFX driver process in 1 core and physics in the other core. Even tho games doesn't seems to use "physics", every single graphic that produces movement on screen requires a process which Intel renders it as a single physic.
That's why when you enable Intel HD graphics one core it's at its max helping its own AGP.
And you might say (I disable my integrated graphics!) well was disabled as a display port but Intel HD will be always enabled, helping game physics and rendering.
As faster your Intel HD +faster RAM+ faster clocks = faster render = faster CPU physics.
Remember: Intel HD bases on RAM bandwidth as video ram, faster ram better the framerates. (CPU physics)
You can test this by removing one of your dual channel ram and running a 3DMark11 bench.
If you remove one channel ram you're practically taking off 50% of your video bandwidth on the Intel HD. The result will hit physic score.
So why doesn't the X edition processors include iGPUs?
+Twski ///M oh they do have and they're meant to be use the same exact way except to have the ability to enable it.
Just think about Intel HD being one of your cores and you'll get the point. :)
2 cores or 1 core 1 thread
mate thats not how cpus work
+Timo FL specially when you have access to Intel's architectures.
Every core has at least one thread, hyperthreading is just having more threads per core.
In this video he had 1 core without hyperthreading, so therefore one thread.
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dude you broke the matrix...
The jet that appeared in the GTA V benchmarking tool is the jet that is supposed to fly your camera around the map. Horrible map and object loading times really screwed things up, though.
q6600 OC to 2.98 GHz & GTX 750Ti for gta5??
I think it could work, GTA optimizations are amazing.
*on low settings
x5450 (q9650) and gtx 560 2gb would so yes.
you'll be getting about 30+fps in high settings. not 100% sure but you can cap 60fps in medium settings
No, grab yourself a Xeon E5450, and a 4GB GTX 1050
Looks great if you tilt your head and squint your eyes, then keep squinting tighter and tighter until you can't see.
Why are you recording your voice on your phone?
better quality with the phone than a microphone used on a aheadset
He could use a dedicated mic, like he does in his other videos. His phone doesn't sound bad; it just looks awkward, and the Blue mic sounds better
its probably due to the 30 days of mac
Cool a5 a Moo5e That makes sense.
Possibly 30 days of Apple test. He used his note4 mic when he went to microcenter, maybe it's for a comparison between them
God damn, the guys who make total war really know how to make an optimized game so anyone could play it while the game still looks good. Props to them and their hard work!
you could've kept all cores enabled just change affinity in task manager 1 core for the game all the others for fraps and all that
Very true, good point.
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+MushroomLand >> The fuck should that make any good for?
ur mum lul
if fraps is having a significant effect, you could just do dual-core in the bios and use task manager to assign cores to the two programs
But the real question is can it run Crysis ?
I bet this setup would crush on some Torchlight II!!! No matter what you build, it only runs on ONE CPU CORE. Nice vid, way to show relevancy with older style hardware with todays games/tasks.
Now try it with a Pentium 4 single core LOL
That would be cool to see but the Pentium 4 doesn't come close to the system requirements for these games
My Pentium 4 641 single core performance in Passmark is 693 and the 6700k is 2333, guess the results.
how well the i7 6700k perform with one core but with hyper-threading? o.O
the pentium 4 overclocking record is somewhere around 8 GHz. get the liquid nitrogen ready for your benchmark^^
+megapro125 8ghz and it still couldn't even run Minecraft hahaha
I would recommend doing something like this again but with an actual single core CPU like the AMD Sempron. The Sempron is a very affordable CPU by the way
What about a single core with Hyperthreading?
He did another video with hyperthreading on. And that's the problem. Single cores of old had all kinds of tricks to parallelise incoming data. Turning of all but one and then hyperthreading off makes this a worthless benchmark, because even single core NetBurst had hyperthreading....
Well not all NetBurtst were hyperthreaded, only starting specific Northwood versions. Williamette didn't have hyperthreading. OK, Williamette was also a broken piece of shit, which was hit by float denorm bug the hardest of them, but all NetBurst inherited some denorm performance issues.
Back in that era, games were single-threaded and a non-hyperthreaded AMD Athlon singlecore was a genuinely better choice.
The instruction decoder and opcode scheduler design which does pretty well extracting parallelism from a single thread goes back to Pentium Pro, and was already quite impressive in late Pentium 3 versions, being able to decode and schedule 2 opcodes per cycle a significant portion of the time. However, modern schedulers which are not derived from NetBurst essentially inherit and enhance these properties. So using a modern CPU is not a limitation. It's just that games are developed exclusively for multithreaded systems at least since Xbox360 and wide availability of multithreaded PCs, with Core2 Duo and Athlon 64x2 being common PC CPU target requirements since 2007 till not too long ago.
I play at my pentium 4 3.20GHz single core with hyperthreading until 2018..
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Who actually plays cities skylines? I know no one that actually plays it lol
can we do a video of a legacy build? with really old components from the 2000~? pleaseeeeeeee? the nostalgia would be awesome
Already done a few of those.
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Me:
Lol my pc can run all these games at 800x600 on the lowest settings
at 1fpy(frameperyear) and i have an i3 530 @1ghz and a hd 5450 underclocked edition
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Disabling cores in BIOS? Really? Why not doing benchmarks on a Pentium 4?
Because these games wouldn't OPEN on a Pentium 4...
also because a single i7 core is way faster than a P4 (I think)
No shit, Sherlock Derrick Blackburn
I play on Pentium 4 3.0Ghz until last month :D
I really dig your channel bro. Thanks for this video. I'm looking forward to the rest of them. I find it interesting to see how modern games run on older equipment when i'm not the one trying to play them. ;)
does kyle have parkinsons
omg xD
So total war barely utilizes multiple cores as it runs pretty well on a single core
Since you have so high settings and such a powerful GPU, the CPU is not capable of delivering info to the 1070, btu if you played with something like a 750 it should work OK.
Ignafiltro Sanchez It doesn't work like that. You won't get more performance pairing a weaker GPU with a weaker CPU instead of a stronger GPU.
Think about it like this:
I can run 2mph, but my friend can run 5mph. We have to stay together, so he has to run at 2mph.
If I instead run with my friend that can run at 2mph, we'll still be only running at 2mph.
As long as my friend can run faster than me, it doesn't matter whether he's slightly faster or hugely faster than me. You are only as strong as your weakest link.
Of course, this is overly simplified. If your CPU is much weaker than your GPU, you can always turn up settings that only impact GPU performance, like AA and resolution and still get the same performance.
Also, I should point out that this is completely unrealistic testing. If you're getting crappy performance, you don't keep max settings and then say it's unplayable.
I remember my first dual core in 2005, which was a little early to have one. I often had to disable one core to play certain games.
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im just taking notes from your mother :*
A word of advice, wait until you are over 50 with the TH-cam police attitude, kids. Then maybe you have gotten a clue about life and are in a position where you actually know better.
Oh gawd!!Good thing my cpu is dual core!! :( And ATI Radeon HD 4200.
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I think it would be cool to see a video on real cores vs hyperthreaded cores gaming performance.
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dont need to lie...
soo, its not just that games usually use max 2 cores, its also that its minimum 2 cores.....well then, need games that run on 4 cores, if that will do anything.
This isn't a representation of a single core processor.
How so?
I think the issue is not so much that it's a single core, as much as it is the games are designed with multi core in mind since we've had several generations of those, and shit the bed when they don't have other cores to send instructions to. They assume multicore and die in various ways. It used to be that some programs and games, although not many, would have a multicore checkbox to take advantage of extra cores, because the way they needed to be designed to take advantage of that isn't the same as if it just assumed single core operations.
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This video made me remember when I recently had to temporarily use an AMD Sempron 140 (together with a R7 250 and 4GB of RAM) in place of my Phenom II X3... I got some insane overclocked speeds with it (2.7GHz to 3.8GHz with stock cooler), but it didn't really help a lot.
Team Fortress 2 and CS:GO ran at cinematic 24 frames per second, most of the games from my Steam library didn't even bother launching, but somehow Xonotic could maintain a solid 60fps with Normal graphics settings (still, it had some strange micro stutters).
You srtting the core to 1 doesn't make it a single core processor. Nice clickbait.
Michael Brown Yes.. Yes, it does. The other cores existing doesn't change the fact that by disabling them, it is effectively a 1 core CPU.
However, his testing was completely unrealistic. You don't try max settings on a low end system and then claim gaming on it is impossible.
It actually makes a lot more sense than you realize. You see, when everything is bottlenecked down to a single core, you now have everything fighting for CPU time. Some games may handle this better than others.
Games with a traditional loading mechanism and a traditional game loop won't be as affected as much, because more traditional stuff works well on a single core, because at one time that was all we had.
However, games that use a less traditional loading mechanism that is designed for multi-core machines will have problems. Streaming resources in with separate threads is something I believe some newer games do, and what I believe you are seeing with the first demo is assets not loading in properly because it is trying to stream assets in on a different thread, and that thread is not getting the CPU time it needs because it is competing with the other parts of the game. You may notice that things are still loading in, just very slowly.
Things should get a lot better once you switch to dual cores, because then you will have far less problems with resource locks due to everything having to share a single CPU.
A single powerful core always beats several low power cores (at least when it comes to server hosting).
I used to host a gmod server that would host at least 80 people on at most times. I was always thinking that because I had an 8 core Xeon that it would be the best option.
Most game servers (like Source engine) only use one core. So all that power is being wasted on running 7 other cores that do nothing. I disabled all those cores and holy crap. I used to only be able to run at 18 tick tops. I was able to hit 36 tick without any drop in performance.
What a cool idea for testing, really enjoyed. Now that you have results for 1 core, you could also do a hyper threading effectiveness chart by doing 1+1, and then after your 2 core tests, 2+2.
I wouldn't be surprised if 1 core gets 1/2 the performance of 4 cores because the massive L3 cache size doesn't decrease and 2nd, the incredible TurboBoost speeds possible.
San Andreas had the same problem on the Play Station 2. Things just weren't being processed quick enough and you'd get things just disappearing and cars nose diving into the ground.
Let me tell you a worse story : I was gaming on a laptop which had malfunctioning Intel HD 3000 graphics that was giving blue screen every 2 hours or so, and the motherboards heat sensors were broken a little so it was running at 105 Celcius all the times.
Cool experiment, although strange to see that none of the games came up with a notice/error upfront about launching with only one cpu core.
gaming on single core was a thing back in the 90s all the way to 2006 or 7. after 2008 almost all games required dual core.
I think it would be interesting if the top of the line was a single core again, with like 4 threads. something with like 300%+ ipc, takes up the whole die size, and has an increased version of hyper threading.
Actually your brother is better than some of other youtubers filming! Glads!
First time viewer here. Wow just looking at your video list, I get the feeling I'm going to enjoy this channel.
the main problem is with modern game engines. Modern engines are using a dedicated rendering thread, which takes all commands for DX/OpenGL and execute it. This makes stuff easier and faster, because no one uses a single core CPU today. I think that was actually the case of GTA V, but you will have to ask the costumer service.
I read a blog about the rendering pipeline in GTA V and the guy confirmed, that GTA V is using a dedicated thread for rendering.
I am by myself a graphic programmer, my engine uses also a dedicated rendering thread.
What strikes me the most about the GTA benchmark is the fact the even the physics couldn't keep up!
Tried this on an xps 15 with i5 6300hq 960m playing GTA 5 on high at 900p and I got 15 fps whereas normally it would never drop below 60 but the environment rendered fine
Dual core with Hiperthread vs without Hiperthread vs sigle core with hiperthread
Wow. This just educated me about how little people know what "cores" are or what they do.
The games might detect the CPU and expect the cores to all be turned on. It could also be that things like bus and such are split between the cores, so disabling the cores instead of using a single core CPU might be causing you a lot of trouble. So if you want to run this just use a single core processor.
it would be cool if next gen i3 was clocked at 5ghz
Could you do 2 cores 4 threads? like an i3-6100?
I have the i3 for gaming and It's a great budget cpu !
yeah i3 is the minimum for gaming you should get, not to say it's a slouch though, out performs fx 6300 9/10
and costs twice as much, almost
+Eugene InLaw i3 6100 is 110 and fx 6300 is 90 bucks
hardly
do u guys think i3-6100 with a gtx 960 is good combo for playing games like GTA 5 in max settings with fps 50 and above?
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can I just point out to you that it didn't physically "break"; that's in reference to the first bench test you did in GTA 5. What actually happened was that it was working but that the map couldn't physically render because you were only using 1 core. Basically because of the speed at which the ram is sending data to the CPU, the CPU basically doesn't have enough resources to fully render the map in said amount of time. In other words your processor was at that time, "unable to import the necessary data fast enough for it to look realistic".
@1:00 What gets me is how people hold their phone horizontally like this! It does not matter, the phone wont stop working because you are holding it at some strange angle while on speaker phone (or voice recording in this case)! lol
I actually like your brother holding the camera more than McLovin. Lol