Ngl this video kinda sucks. i completely agree with the other guy. dude stole his thumbnail too. Shigaraki was very much in the right *obviously not the whole killing part* but for most of his and the leagues motives are justified And yeah, disagreeing with shigarakis cold ass fact of a speech is a clear sign ur wrong. Also the aot fans be pissed rn 💀 it just feels like hate. Yes he was groomed by all for one, but your wrong. society didnt first touch shigaraki when he became a villain society first did it straight after he killed his family. actually no. it happened IN HIS FAMILY. his family was the perfect example of it. they didnt do shit to help him. society did indeed reject him and ruin him before he became a villain. after killing his family he wandered the streets for most likely hours or days, and MANY MANY people would look at him and ignore him and dont even bother trying to help him, u know why? superficial judgement. They judged him because of how he looked. When the FIRST PERSON actually took the effort to check on tenko, she looked at him, and then walked away, saying shit like "Im sure a hero will come by soon" bruh. look idk if ur brainless but, this just sounds like pure biased hate. literally the only thing ur saying and repeating is "Shigaraki is a pure evil monster that wants to do nothing but destroy" thats literally all u have said throughout this entire video. and you just keep repeating it. ur points are so dumb dude. it honestly just feels like u have watched half the show and then briefly read a chapter or 2 about each villain 💀 Yeah this is just straight up biased hate. I bet your favourite line is "A villain is a villain through and through they will never change, they will always be mindless evil maniacs" frr also the fact that Deku quite literally agrees with shigaraki just proves u wrong completely. Deku literally agrees with shigaraki i have nothing else to say.
Shigaraki's motives are essentially that he wants revenge on a world that he feels has wronged him; that abused him and then ignored him. He doesn't really care about what comes next, what matters to him is that the world he hates so much will be gone. It's part of what starts getting certain people to side with him, especially LOV members like Toga, Twice, and Spinner. Shigaraki's mentality of "If the world doesn't care about us, then fine! F**k this world!" is very appealing to those who feel like they've been rejected and abandoned by society throughout their lives just for existing. Shigaraki and the LOV aren't really meant to be right in what they want, what they are is essentially cautionary tales. The events that shaped Shigaraki, Toga, Dabi, Twice, and Spinner into the villains they are were all completely avoidable if the people in their lives had simply done the right thing or if anyone had reached out to help them when they'd needed it. And by the time that people in the present like Midoriya and Uraraka are taking notice and trying to reach out to them, it's too late. Too much damage has been done for those like Shigaraki to even consider any other path or way to exist. The experience with Shigaraki is basically a warning to Midoriya and his fellow heroes that if things aren't improved, if they just maintain the existing status quo, more tragedies like Tenko and LOV are going to happen.
Ooo thats me! Great video! I tried taking the perspective of Shigaraki from within the series in this video! Appreciate you taking time out to make a counter video! New sub!
"The villains need a hero of their own" shows that Tomura is still the same broken boy who wanted to be a hero. Is he right? No, not remotely. But it's not true to say he had no heroic aspirations at ALL. He's the All Might/Deku for the villains.
@@joshuaagee-bass4049 I suppose you have a point. One could say that his initial heroic aspirations were corrupted such that they no longer reflected heroism proper, which are in practice indistinguishable from delusions of heroism. Would that be more accurate, do you think?
Thank you! Yeah I've noticed people totally missing the point about a lot of things in MHA, and not even necessarily related to shipping (which you are VERY familiar with lol)
@@antotara1927 I had one in the works but dropped it cuz I needed time to formulate my points better. I’ll address Eren sometime after Easter probably. Thanks for the suggestion!
What do you think about Shigaraki’s motives? Do you think he was right or wrong?
Ngl this video kinda sucks.
i completely agree with the other guy.
dude stole his thumbnail too.
Shigaraki was very much in the right
*obviously not the whole killing part*
but for most of his and the leagues motives are justified
And yeah, disagreeing with shigarakis cold ass fact of a speech is a clear sign ur wrong.
Also the aot fans be pissed rn 💀
it just feels like hate.
Yes he was groomed by all for one, but your wrong.
society didnt first touch shigaraki when he became a villain
society first did it straight after he killed his family.
actually no.
it happened IN HIS FAMILY.
his family was the perfect example of it. they didnt do shit to help him.
society did indeed reject him and ruin him before he became a villain.
after killing his family he wandered the streets for most likely hours or days, and MANY MANY people would look at him and ignore him and dont even bother trying to help him, u know why?
superficial judgement.
They judged him because of how he looked.
When the FIRST PERSON actually took the effort to check on tenko, she looked at him, and then walked away, saying shit like "Im sure a hero will come by soon"
bruh.
look idk if ur brainless but, this just sounds like pure biased hate.
literally the only thing ur saying and repeating is "Shigaraki is a pure evil monster that wants to do nothing but destroy"
thats literally all u have said throughout this entire video.
and you just keep repeating it.
ur points are so dumb dude.
it honestly just feels like u have watched half the show and then briefly read a chapter or 2 about each villain 💀
Yeah this is just straight up biased hate.
I bet your favourite line is "A villain is a villain through and through they will never change, they will always be mindless evil maniacs" frr
also the fact that Deku quite literally agrees with shigaraki just proves u wrong completely.
Deku literally agrees with shigaraki i have nothing else to say.
definitely wrong, he was manipulated and lied to, but that doesn't justify anything he did
He was still right about trying to destroy everything
Shigaraki's motives are essentially that he wants revenge on a world that he feels has wronged him; that abused him and then ignored him. He doesn't really care about what comes next, what matters to him is that the world he hates so much will be gone. It's part of what starts getting certain people to side with him, especially LOV members like Toga, Twice, and Spinner. Shigaraki's mentality of "If the world doesn't care about us, then fine! F**k this world!" is very appealing to those who feel like they've been rejected and abandoned by society throughout their lives just for existing.
Shigaraki and the LOV aren't really meant to be right in what they want, what they are is essentially cautionary tales. The events that shaped Shigaraki, Toga, Dabi, Twice, and Spinner into the villains they are were all completely avoidable if the people in their lives had simply done the right thing or if anyone had reached out to help them when they'd needed it. And by the time that people in the present like Midoriya and Uraraka are taking notice and trying to reach out to them, it's too late. Too much damage has been done for those like Shigaraki to even consider any other path or way to exist.
The experience with Shigaraki is basically a warning to Midoriya and his fellow heroes that if things aren't improved, if they just maintain the existing status quo, more tragedies like Tenko and LOV are going to happen.
And thats why Shigaraki was Right
@@JetTheProphet agreed
Ooo thats me!
Great video! I tried taking the perspective of Shigaraki from within the series in this video!
Appreciate you taking time out to make a counter video! New sub!
@@JetTheProphet Thank you! Props for the ambition. I don’t think I could go through with making a video like yours haha
@ appreciate the support! Keep up the good work bro
I cannot say you are right about shigaraki, piercing heaven said it best
@@piercing_heaven The HPSC are the real heroes of MHA.
@ youre entitled to your opinion. They are like bootys. Everyone has one and everyone thinks theres doesn’t stink
6:14 I never understood that thinking. If you do evil for good that means you better be punished as your change begins.
"The villains need a hero of their own" shows that Tomura is still the same broken boy who wanted to be a hero. Is he right? No, not remotely. But it's not true to say he had no heroic aspirations at ALL. He's the All Might/Deku for the villains.
@@joshuaagee-bass4049 I suppose you have a point. One could say that his initial heroic aspirations were corrupted such that they no longer reflected heroism proper, which are in practice indistinguishable from delusions of heroism. Would that be more accurate, do you think?
Never stop cooking
@@ngonzo9689 you bet! Next one’s gonna go even harder trust
Spot on! Bro, you deserve way more subscribers than you have!
@@mikaelacash3791 I appreciate that. Thanks for watching!
you amazing + new sub.İ am working i will watch it at home
Tomura is my favorite character but I agree that he is wrong
4:11 Eh he was fighting fir his friends, in a blind way that would cause chaos.
This is why I wish I hadn’t lost that panel 😭
Banger video, you sir have cooked 🫡
Glad to see someone else talk about this side of MHA since a lot of people misunderstand it
Thank you! Yeah I've noticed people totally missing the point about a lot of things in MHA, and not even necessarily related to shipping (which you are VERY familiar with lol)
Please, make a Eren video. I'm tired to see "Eren Jaeger is right. Period. yada yada" videos, that would be a nice change of pace.
@@antotara1927 I had one in the works but dropped it cuz I needed time to formulate my points better. I’ll address Eren sometime after Easter probably. Thanks for the suggestion!
@@piercing_heaven take your time, my friend. Looking forward to see the Eren video, time to debunk Eren's simps' believfs.