Because Lord Jesus also wanted to show us that we humans must pray to God like He did Yes He is God but He is.also our example on how we should walk and live
Show us by lying? By God deceiving his people for 1500 years that he is one? By Jesus stating explicitly that he is God's son only to really mean that he is god himself? No, he prayed to his God, his Father, the one true God who Jesus worshipped and obeyed. The trinity is a Catholic invention voted into existence in the fourth century, an apostasy formed by blending a pagan Roman emperors beliefs into Christianity. It's as much a lie today as it was then.
@@gweilospur5877 that is the mystery of the Trinity. No one in this world knoes exactly knows how trinity works But this we know. God is all powerful so of course its possible for God to be three seperate Person. He can make one three But if you dont want to accept that That is fine but know this God will not be mocked
Deus colocou à prova Seu maior mandamento: amar a Deus acima de todas as coisas, e não fazer ao outro o que você não gostaria que fizessem a você. Para isso, Ele não poderia punir a humanidade ou impor essa regra sem primeiro passar pelas dores do mundo. Deus veio, sofreu a pior punição e ainda assim nos amou, demonstrando, na prática, o verdadeiro sentido de Seu mandamento.
Jesus is God, He is God the Son. Genesis 1:26 Isaiah 9:6 Proverbs 30:4 Psalms 110:1 John 1:1-3 and 14 John 1:18 in original Greek manuscript/Bible (it says "monogenes Theos" or only begotten God) John 6:38 Hebrews 1:8 Philippians 2:5-8 Colossians 1:12-17 Colossians 2:9 1 Timothy 3:16 Jesus claimed to be God in John 8:56-58 Revelation 1:17-18 Like the God the Father did in Exodus 3:14 Isaiah 48:12
@@TheRastacabbage According to the traditional Christian understanding of the Trinity, God and Jesus are not completely separate beings; while they are distinct persons, they are both considered part of the one God, alongside the Holy Spirit, meaning they share the same divine nature but have different roles and identities within that unity.
It's to show us who we are to be like. Jesus is our great example/Teacher. He is the Truth. The Way. The Life. We are to be as He was on the earth "Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world." I John 4:17 NKJV "Therefore we also, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which so easily ensnares us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God." Hebrews 12:1-2 NKJV "For every high priest taken from among men is appointed for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins. He can have compassion on those who are ignorant and going astray, since he himself is also subject to weakness. Because of this he is required as for the people, so also for himself, to offer sacrifices for sins. And no man takes this honor to himself, but he who is called by God, just as Aaron was. So also Christ did not glorify Himself to become High Priest, but it was He who said to Him: “You are My Son, Today I have begotten You.” As He also says in another place: “You are a priest forever According to the order of Melchizedek”; who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications, with vehement cries and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard because of His godly fear, though He was a Son, yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered. And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him, called by God as High Priest “according to the order of Melchizedek”" Hebrews 5:1-10 NKJV We cannot understand it all yet, but one day we will know just as we are known (1 Corinthians 13:12); "Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all." I Corinthians 15:28 NKJV
Jesus was not praying to himself Jesus had two natures, human organism and divine!!! He existed before he became human organism, he was thus consulting his divine nature in order to draw strength physically and undergo his torture via human nature!!! .. can anyone imagine taking up unimaginable physical torture for the sake of love!??? ??? firstly human nature is to avoid pain!!! any kind of pain, and find ways by which to avoid!!! however the price in order to reconcile sin required a sacrifice!!! and God cannot change his own law!!!! he cannot contradict himself!!!! so who among the human species is perfect enough to offer a “PERFECT” sacrifice???? the answer is “NO ONE” we are all sinners, and spiritually God is too immense so he became a human organism so that he could become the “PERFECT” sacrifice!!! .. so Jesus wasn’t talking to himself!!! at that moment in the garden his human nature as God, was seeking strength from his divine nature, without assuming “absolute power” which would’ve made the sacrifice void and allowed the powers of darkness to contest the means by which God chose to settle the deficit of sin, so in order to help his human nature and accept and undergo torture & murder so that sins can be reconciled and that heaven could be once more opened. Jesus is the Savior, God in human flesh. He is not half God and half man. He is fully divine and fully man. In other words, Jesus has two distinct natures: divine and human. Jesus is the Word who was God and was with God and was made flesh (John 1:1, 14). This means that in the single person of Jesus he has both a human and divine nature, God and man. The divine nature was not changed when the Word became flesh (John 1:1, 14 ). Instead, the Word was joined with humanity (Col. 2:9)
I'm still confuse. If he's the one God who came down from heaven. And when he's praying, is he calling for himself? And when rose in heaven it said he was sitting in the right hand of the father, meaning they are two, rather than he's back to himself as only one. Just like if I'm separated from my body, I can maybe talk to my body but cannot have an answer, isn't it? And when I come back into my body, then I can say that was me alone. Could someone please explain it to me?
This will be an ongoing topic. I dont agree because in the beginning the bible states "he was with god" which means jesus was with god. Also during the temptation satan would have never tried to "tempt" god if jesus was god. The father, son, and holy spirit are 3 different entities in my opinion. The book of enoch also states god told enoch he will send his son but never mentions his name. The holy spirit was sent by god to mary.
@@TheCommo81 *John 1:14* "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."
@@E-102GammaMKII Over seventy translations render John 1:1 as "the Word was a god" including the oldest Coptic translation yet found. To translate the Greek as "the God" is to ignore the words in that same verse. "with" denotes a minimum of two individuals, one cannot be "with" oneself. The Word and God are separated and then joined in the same sentence? Such contradiction in scripture is incompatible with it's divine origin.
@@TheCommo81 You fail to understand that Jesus chose to limit Himself. And Hebrews 4 says that "He was in all points tempted like as we are, *yet without sin."*
@@user-zr6pl6nb6z When asked if he was the blind man Jesus had healed, the man replied "I am". Does that mean this man was God as well? Or do you only apply this silly logic when it suits you?
@@Pj-fm7oe Show me where this happened. When Jesus said "Before Abraham was, I Am," the Jews immediately sought to kill Him, because He was claiming TO BE GOD.
@E-102GammaMKII "Some said, This is he: others said, He is like him: but he said, I am he." John 9:9 There are some 60 instances in the Bible of the statement "I am", it is not a declaration of divinity. They made clear why they thought he should be executed during Jesus's sham trial. "because he made himself God’s son.” John 19:7 So even Jesus enemies did not make the outrageous claim that the trinity does. And they obviously didn't take him saying "I am" as declaring himself to be God. Which would have made for an easy blasphemy accusation.
I agree but I think cliffe isn’t answering the question correctly. The man is asking the distinction between the three. It’s a question that can be answered biblically. If this is the topic you’re stuck on look into Dr. Walter Martin in the 70’s 80’s, as he knew exactly what we’d be up against today.
Hmm my take on the trinity is that because God lives in a different plane than us the 3rd dimension, the only way we can see or interact with him is if he reveals a part of himself or cut a part of himself to be able to interact with the 3rd dimension without destroying it. Hence there is no one who has truly seen God as the bible said, because we can't truly observe a being outside of our dimension
It’s like a video game Your character in the digital world and you in the real world are both you. But digital you and real you are different in different realities
@VeriStrawberi as a beliver in God and a follower of Christ i can tell you 100% they do!! Heck even the Cia had a program called Stargate program where they had people astral traveling for the purpose of spying. It's OK to admit you dnt know anything on the subject but to outright dismiss it is pretty pathetic
@VeriStrawberi oh your just a kid lol. You should look up alistor crowley, a renowned Satanist and 33 degree free mason. His exact words is "a prerequisite to be a Satanist is to have the ability to astral project" I realize this subject is probably way too heavy for a 10 yr old girl.
There is only one singular Being of God whose name is Yahweh and Jesus Christ is that one singular God incarnate as Saviour of the world. It's really that simple. No such thing as different eternal Persons that make up God. That idea has been forced into the Scriptures, but when one honestly reads the Scriptures without Catholic Trinity doctrine clouding their understanding, one can recognize that "God" is always in reference to the Father whose name is Yahweh. The Son was born when God was manifest in the flesh as the Holy Ghost overshadowed Mary and conceived in her womb a Son. One can understand the distinction between Father and Son by reading Philippians 2:5-10 regarding the Kenosis. The one singular God became a man while remaining the invisible Omnipresent Spirit transcendent to His incarnation in the flesh. God is both Father and Son at the same time. Not two different Persons, but the one singular God experiencing existence in two different ways at the same time. As Son, God is experiencing a limited human existence as a man. Praise God! Theologians teaching that one of three Persons was incarnated in the flesh need to read their Bibles a little more closely and thoroughly instead of holding to religious tradition. Trinity doctrine is so unnecessary and it's a carnal way of trying to understand what the singular God did through His incarnation in the flesh. All the fulness of the Godhead dwelleth bodily in Jesus (Colossians 2:9). Jesus isn't just one third of God incarnate or one of three Persons that make up God incarnate. Jesus is the one singular God whose name is Yahweh incarnate!
The poor guy was more confused in the end than when he asked the question neither know the scriptures nor the power of God. Jesus Christ is the Son of God conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit acting on Mary Christ was not born of lust.
1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men: a man Christ Jesus . ( Again we don't pray to Jesus ,but thru Jesus again he's the middle man a go between as mentioned here in James . That is why the NAME Jehovah was taken out of the Bible . It makes it more convenient to teach the trinity if you can remove God ( Jehovah) from the bible . At one time God's name was written in the bible some 7,500 times.
Every human requires prayer. This is why Jesus, a now mortal, had prayed to god. It’s important to understand that when Jesus was on earth, Yahweh was still ruling heaven. God can be anywhere at any time in any form he is not limited such as the son, Christ by choice to humble himself and die for our sin. The text does not explain his specific detail nor many others because it already explains that god is not of this world and many of his actions are beyond human comprehension.
The question is not "is God limited?", it's would God lie about who he is? And the answer is obviously NO. Jesus told us exactly who he was and who his Father is. They are not the same or co-equal because both of them told us so. Jesus putting on a false display of prayer to convince the crowds that he is praying to God when it is actually him the whole time would be a lie, a flat out deception. Jesus would never do that. God doesn't pray to anyone. This student was exactly right.
@@Pj-fm7oe read Zechariah 12:10, from the Tanakh, far before Jesus was on earth, he was prophesied to exist as god on earth, and was to be pierced by Man. It’s simple. Jesus Christ was sinless, the Tanakh clearly states that nobody, not one is without sin. People were willing to be tortured to death to support what they SAW and KNEW to be true. I hope you have a change of heart on this subject.
@@derekmichael9375 Zech 12:10 calls him an only son and a firstborn son. How do you get out of that that he is God? The prophesy is in no way saying that he is Almighty God. Romans 5:12 makes it clear that sin is passed down from Adam to all his descendants. But Jesus had no human father and so he had no inherited sin. Why would it be a problem for God's Son to be sinless? Men also cannot see God and live, we are told that multiple times. So you hope I abandon what Jesus taught and what all of his followers and all the faithful written of in the Bible believed? That God is one and that Jesus is his obedient Son. No, I will never turn aside from what I know to be true. The trinity is a 4th century apostasy, voted into existence by philosophy enamored men and enforced under Roman law by a pagan emperor.
@@Pj-fm7oe they shall look upon ME for whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for HIM, as one mourneth for his only son. He is speaking of himself in both the 1st and 3rd person in the same sentence. Do you find this to be a mistake? And when he says “as one mourneth for his only son” he is speaking figuratively, not stating that he has only one son, though that is true that god only has one begotten son.
@@derekmichael9375 So he says he has one son and you admit that God has one begotten son, but that's not what this scripture is saying? What do you base that on? Jesus is Jehovah God's representative, to pierce him is equivalent to piercing God. This no more proves that they are the same then Jesus being one with his followers makes them all the same. All of this ignores too the huge quantities of scripture that clearly identify Jesus as God's son and not The Almighty. The aforementioned verses that no one can see God and live for example. Why ignore blatant evidence on one scripture and torture the wording on another? It is straining the gnat and swallowing the camel to arrive at the desired conclusion rather than understand it for what it actually says.
John 10:36 King James Version 36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God ? (It was Jesus enemies that was saying he ( JESUS ) was saying he was God NOT Jesus . Cliffe Knechtle is FULL of himself.
Jesus has a Father Jehovah (Which can be found at Psalms 83: 18 KING JAMES BIBLE older version 1953 Edition ) TRINITY IS NOT A BIBLE TEACHING ,It's not even in the bible Cliffe Knechtle is FULL of himself
Correct. But the Y is pronounced as a J in english, hence the spelling. A bit like Giraffe is not spelt with a J, jiraffe. Its not same, but you see what I mean.
That young man at the beginning is absolutely RIGHT. CHRIST is the FIRST BORN OF ALL CREATION. GOD ALMIGHTY WAS NOT CREATED. He is everlasting to everlasting. Christ had a beginning. Jesus said, " this means everlasting life: their taking in knowledge of YOU, THE ONLY TRUE GOD, and the one you sent forth, Jesus Christ. Jesus is NOT, nor did he ever claim to be God. In fact, after he's resurrected and at the end of the thousand year reign, he hands the kingdom over to his Father he can't hand something over to someone if he is that someone. The head of the woman is the man, the head of the congregation is the Christ, and the head of Christ is God. The holy Spirit is NOT a person. It's God's active force. The instrument God uses to accomplish his task . God's sprit / acive force moving about over the surface of the earth Genesis 1:2 The testimony of 2 or more: Jesus said, " If I alone bear witness about myself, my witness is not true. There is another who bears witness about me, and I know that the witness he bears about me is true.. the Jewish law stated that testimony could not be accepted on the basis of one witness, but instead two or more. Notice that Jesus spoke of his father as his witness. If the spirit were another person, wouldn't his third testimony be important as well? And yet, he says NOTHING about the spirit. When stephen martyr was being murdered, he saw a vision of Jesus at God's right hand side. Absolutely nothing about the spirit . Christ did not die upon a cross. The translation of the word used in the bible does not describe a stick with a cross piece. It is in fact, an upright pole or tree no cross piece. The cross is a pagan symbol having its origins in Babylon and associated with the god Tammuz who apostate Israelite women wept over.
Actually, it is. In the New Living Translation, you’ll actually find the word “repent” 75 times throughout the New Testament. Here is one excerpt from Matthew: “From then on Jesus began to preach, “Repent of your sins and turn to God, for the Kingdom of Heaven is near.”” Matthew 4:17 (NLT)
@@SupercharizardEx For one, you're using a perverted bible. NLT is NOT translated directly from the Greek. Secondly, you are only saying "repent" is found 75 times...of course it is! "Repent of sins" is NOT. Do you even know what "repentance" means? What is the gospel of our salvation?
If God absolutely hates and despises sin, why would we ever choose not to repent against sin? That’s idiotic. And who are you to say that this particular translation is perverted? That’s like saying the KJV is perverted because it’s not the original scripture written in Hebrew.
@@GospelGuardiansYT In only chapter 17 Jesus says: Asks for glory from God God gave him authority God gave him people to give life to his Father is the only true God God sent him Jesus gives glory to God Jesus finished the work God gave him Asks for the glory that he had alongside God before the world was Makes God's name manifest God gave him men out of the world They know that what God gave Jesus is from God Jesus gave them sayings God gave him They know Jesus is God's representative I'm only in verse 9 but I have to wonder what context you are referring to? There is no context that alters the meaning of what Jesus said into the complete opposite.
@@Pj-fm7oe100 % correct. Isaiah ch 53. This servant is not GOD. Acts 3 v 22 = Deuteronomy 18 v 18. This Prophet is also not GOD. The I am in John 8 is not translated as Jehovah, or GOD or the I AM of Exodus. Thats one of the weakest claims trinitarians often use. John 10 v 30, compare with John 17 v 11 and 20 to 23? Believers are also given the same glory and are one with GOD.
Jesus is NOT God he's the SON of God.. Jesus prayed the Lord's prayer "OUR Father you are in heaven holy is your NAME"KJ Bible says God's name is Jehovah.. Psalms 83:18
I AM is not a name. It is not God’s name. You must trust scripture and not someone’s or council’s interpretation of it. You have accepted John 8:58 as having a connection to Exodus 3:14. That is someone’s interpretation not God’s explicit statement. God very explicitly stated what His divine name is. Exodus 6:3 (this name appears close to 7000 times in the OT) Do you believe God or some ancient Roman council who claimed to be worshippers?
hmmm, lets think for a min. You believe in god, you live in eternity w him. You don't believe w him, then you live eternity separate from him. If ur a muslim, then u believe in jihads and beating women, if u are a jew, ur ok w rabbis having sex w infant girls. if ur an atheist then idk what to tell you. Read the book lil bro, if u dont understand sum doesnt mean its not true
They already corrupt his words by suggesting he was being coy or deceptive with all the statements he made. Jesus never made this declaration that the True God in the OT made countless times, “I am the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.” Exodus 6:3 Jesus referenced the passage yet never applied it to himself. Jesus actually applied to God when Jesus stated, “HE is the God…” Notice Jesus did not say “I” am the God. Matthew 22:31, 32 Now concerning the resurrection of the dead, haven’t you read what was spoken to you by God: 22:32 - “I am the God of Abraham and the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob? He is not the God of the dead but of the living.” Trinitarians accuse Jesus of being very deceptive or demure.
When I was brainwashed many decades ago I had trouble believing the three thing with a god although it was explained in the same mumbo jumbo language as this guy but now, thankfully I realise it is all rubbish as I once thought.
Obviously there remains three different Gospel interpretations of the nature of Christ's divinity. Mark has no virgin birth he is the Messiah the Jews expected an ordinary man who God loved and elevated. He is the adopted son of God becoming the Messiah upon his baptism. Mathew and Luke have Christ being born of Mary as a demigod. Not existing before his birth. John believes him a real God existing before creation. The Gospels do not choose one over the other. That task falls to denominations to decide. Please consult your clergyman.
Because Lord Jesus also wanted to show us that we humans must pray to God like He did
Yes He is God but He is.also our example on how we should walk and live
Show us by lying? By God deceiving his people for 1500 years that he is one? By Jesus stating explicitly that he is God's son only to really mean that he is god himself?
No, he prayed to his God, his Father, the one true God who Jesus worshipped and obeyed. The trinity is a Catholic invention voted into existence in the fourth century, an apostasy formed by blending a pagan Roman emperors beliefs into Christianity. It's as much a lie today as it was then.
@@kenji9564 So he prayed to himself to save himself from himself. Hmmm…..
@@gweilospur5877 that is the mystery of the Trinity. No one in this world knoes exactly knows how trinity works
But this we know. God is all powerful so of course its possible for God to be three seperate Person. He can make one three
But if you dont want to accept that
That is fine but know this God will not be mocked
@@gweilospur5877 He prayed to Father. God the Son Jesus and God the Father are two distinct beings.
Thank you for this ❤
Deus colocou à prova Seu maior mandamento: amar a Deus acima de todas as coisas, e não fazer ao outro o que você não gostaria que fizessem a você.
Para isso, Ele não poderia punir a humanidade ou impor essa regra sem primeiro passar pelas dores do mundo.
Deus veio, sofreu a pior punição e ainda assim nos amou, demonstrando, na prática, o verdadeiro sentido de Seu mandamento.
I love how he explains things
And u believe it?
Jesus is God, He is God the Son.
Genesis 1:26
Isaiah 9:6
Proverbs 30:4
Psalms 110:1
John 1:1-3 and 14
John 1:18 in original Greek manuscript/Bible (it says "monogenes Theos" or only begotten God)
John 6:38
Hebrews 1:8
Philippians 2:5-8
Colossians 1:12-17
Colossians 2:9
1 Timothy 3:16
Jesus claimed to be God in
John 8:56-58
Revelation 1:17-18
Like the God the Father did in
Exodus 3:14
Isaiah 48:12
This comment deserve more likes
@@mmr1137
More likes?
For poor reading comprehension?
Jesus prayed to the father. We pray to the father in Jesus's name. We got to the father through the son. They are 2 completely seperate beings
No JW
@And-sn7nt that's right, no JW
@@TheRastacabbage According to the traditional Christian understanding of the Trinity, God and Jesus are not completely separate beings; while they are distinct persons, they are both considered part of the one God, alongside the Holy Spirit, meaning they share the same divine nature but have different roles and identities within that unity.
@@And-sn7nt you mean the nonsense that was decreed under Constantine, not found in scripture. I'm not remotely interested in man made traditions
@@TheRastacabbage it is in scripture, your misinterpretation of it is another subject. What scripture are you talking about specifically?
He is the SON of god
@@sherylrawson2592 Which god? There are thousands of them.
There’s only one God
@@ParadiseDior-n9u Yes, Zeus.
It's to show us who we are to be like. Jesus is our great example/Teacher. He is the Truth. The Way. The Life. We are to be as He was on the earth
"Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world."
I John 4:17 NKJV
"Therefore we also, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which so easily ensnares us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us,
looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God."
Hebrews 12:1-2 NKJV
"For every high priest taken from among men is appointed for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins.
He can have compassion on those who are ignorant and going astray, since he himself is also subject to weakness.
Because of this he is required as for the people, so also for himself, to offer sacrifices for sins.
And no man takes this honor to himself, but he who is called by God, just as Aaron was.
So also Christ did not glorify Himself to become High Priest, but it was He who said to Him:
“You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You.”
As He also says in another place:
“You are a priest forever
According to the order of Melchizedek”;
who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications, with vehement cries and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard because of His godly fear,
though He was a Son, yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered.
And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him, called by God as High Priest “according to the order of Melchizedek”"
Hebrews 5:1-10 NKJV
We cannot understand it all yet, but one day we will know just as we are known (1 Corinthians 13:12);
"Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all."
I Corinthians 15:28 NKJV
Only Jesus Christ is coming back to judge the world not Allah not muhammad not any other beings just Jesus. Jesus is the only way to salvation ✝️❤️
@@Beatit-m2p Santa Claus is the only way to salvation.
@@gweilospur5877 even Santa Claus is better than your Allah and pdo muhammad 🤣🤣
That's because he's not dead and did not die for your sins. God saved him, he will defeat the dajjal. So, no. He never worshipped himself, nor died.
Jesus was not praying to himself
Jesus had two natures, human organism and divine!!! He existed before he became human organism, he was thus consulting his divine nature in order to draw strength physically and undergo his torture via human nature!!! .. can anyone imagine taking up unimaginable physical torture for the sake of love!??? ??? firstly human nature is to avoid pain!!! any kind of pain, and find ways by which to avoid!!! however the price in order to reconcile sin required a sacrifice!!! and God cannot change his own law!!!! he cannot contradict himself!!!! so who among the human species is perfect enough to offer a “PERFECT” sacrifice???? the answer is “NO ONE” we are all sinners, and spiritually God is too immense so he became a human organism so that he could become the “PERFECT” sacrifice!!! .. so Jesus wasn’t talking to himself!!! at that moment in the garden his human nature as God, was seeking strength from his divine nature, without assuming “absolute power” which would’ve made the sacrifice void and allowed the powers of darkness to contest the means by which God chose to settle the deficit of sin, so in order to help his human nature and accept and undergo torture & murder so that sins can be reconciled and that heaven could be once more opened.
Jesus is the Savior, God
in human flesh. He is not half God and half man. He is fully divine and fully man. In other words, Jesus has two distinct natures: divine and human. Jesus is the Word who was God and was with God and was made flesh (John 1:1, 14). This means that in the single person of Jesus he has both a human and divine nature, God and man. The divine nature was not changed when the Word became flesh (John 1:1, 14
). Instead, the Word was joined with humanity (Col. 2:9)
@@mattkylie6723 Three. You forgot the Holy Ghost. Don’t skip part of the fairy tale.
@@gweilospur5877what fairy tale?
@@Mexican_Jedi The fairy tale called Christianity.
@@gweilospur5877 what does Christianity have to do with the fairy tale you mentioned?
@ The story of Christ is a fairy tale.
Why did Kirk tell Scotty to beam him up?
Because scotty was kirk 🤣🤣
@@astutik8909 Kirk, Spock and Scotty were the holy trinity.
@@gweilospur5877 and the vatican is the profitable business " enterprise"..🤣
I'm still confuse. If he's the one God who came down from heaven. And when he's praying, is he calling for himself? And when rose in heaven it said he was sitting in the right hand of the father, meaning they are two, rather than he's back to himself as only one. Just like if I'm separated from my body, I can maybe talk to my body but cannot have an answer, isn't it? And when I come back into my body, then I can say that was me alone. Could someone please explain it to me?
This will be an ongoing topic. I dont agree because in the beginning the bible states "he was with god" which means jesus was with god. Also during the temptation satan would have never tried to "tempt" god if jesus was god. The father, son, and holy spirit are 3 different entities in my opinion. The book of enoch also states god told enoch he will send his son but never mentions his name. The holy spirit was sent by god to mary.
*John 1:1*
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
Seems pretty cut and dry to me.
@@E-102GammaMKII The Word was not Jesus. The word is the bible and prayer, a direct communication to God. "he was with God" refers to the Son of God.
@@TheCommo81 *John 1:14*
"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."
@@E-102GammaMKII
Over seventy translations render John 1:1 as "the Word was a god" including the oldest Coptic translation yet found. To translate the Greek as "the God" is to ignore the words in that same verse. "with" denotes a minimum of two individuals, one cannot be "with" oneself. The Word and God are separated and then joined in the same sentence? Such contradiction in scripture is incompatible with it's divine origin.
@@TheCommo81 You fail to understand that Jesus chose to limit Himself. And Hebrews 4 says that "He was in all points tempted like as we are, *yet without sin."*
Where did Jesus say,"I am God so worship me" in the Bible❓📖 Show me the verses exactly & I'll convert to Christian now, no questions asked❗➕
When He said, "Before Abraham was, I am" that was a statement that He is God. "I am" is God's title.
@@user-zr6pl6nb6z When asked if he was the blind man Jesus had healed, the man replied "I am". Does that mean this man was God as well? Or do you only apply this silly logic when it suits you?
@@Pj-fm7oe Show me where this happened.
When Jesus said "Before Abraham was, I Am," the Jews immediately sought to kill Him, because He was claiming TO BE GOD.
@@Pj-fm7oe That verse doesn't exist, brainwave. Do you always make things up to suit your narrative.
@E-102GammaMKII
"Some said, This is he: others said, He is like him: but he said, I am he." John 9:9
There are some 60 instances in the Bible of the statement "I am", it is not a declaration of divinity.
They made clear why they thought he should be executed during Jesus's sham trial.
"because he made himself God’s son.” John 19:7
So even Jesus enemies did not make the outrageous claim that the trinity does. And they obviously didn't take him saying "I am" as declaring himself to be God. Which would have made for an easy blasphemy accusation.
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I agree but I think cliffe isn’t answering the question correctly. The man is asking the distinction between the three. It’s a question that can be answered biblically. If this is the topic you’re stuck on look into Dr. Walter Martin in the 70’s 80’s, as he knew exactly what we’d be up against today.
Because God is the boss
Hmm my take on the trinity is that because God lives in a different plane than us the 3rd dimension, the only way we can see or interact with him is if he reveals a part of himself or cut a part of himself to be able to interact with the 3rd dimension without destroying it. Hence there is no one who has truly seen God as the bible said, because we can't truly observe a being outside of our dimension
It’s like a video game
Your character in the digital world and you in the real world are both you. But digital you and real you are different in different realities
People astral travel everyday hence seeing different beings in a different dimension
@@danlovepeaceunity they definitely do not.
@VeriStrawberi as a beliver in God and a follower of Christ i can tell you 100% they do!! Heck even the Cia had a program called Stargate program where they had people astral traveling for the purpose of spying. It's OK to admit you dnt know anything on the subject but to outright dismiss it is pretty pathetic
@VeriStrawberi oh your just a kid lol. You should look up alistor crowley, a renowned Satanist and 33 degree free mason. His exact words is "a prerequisite to be a Satanist is to have the ability to astral project"
I realize this subject is probably way too heavy for a 10 yr old girl.
Amen
There is only one singular Being of God whose name is Yahweh and Jesus Christ is that one singular God incarnate as Saviour of the world. It's really that simple. No such thing as different eternal Persons that make up God. That idea has been forced into the Scriptures, but when one honestly reads the Scriptures without Catholic Trinity doctrine clouding their understanding, one can recognize that "God" is always in reference to the Father whose name is Yahweh. The Son was born when God was manifest in the flesh as the Holy Ghost overshadowed Mary and conceived in her womb a Son. One can understand the distinction between Father and Son by reading Philippians 2:5-10 regarding the Kenosis. The one singular God became a man while remaining the invisible Omnipresent Spirit transcendent to His incarnation in the flesh. God is both Father and Son at the same time. Not two different Persons, but the one singular God experiencing existence in two different ways at the same time. As Son, God is experiencing a limited human existence as a man. Praise God! Theologians teaching that one of three Persons was incarnated in the flesh need to read their Bibles a little more closely and thoroughly instead of holding to religious tradition. Trinity doctrine is so unnecessary and it's a carnal way of trying to understand what the singular God did through His incarnation in the flesh. All the fulness of the Godhead dwelleth bodily in Jesus (Colossians 2:9). Jesus isn't just one third of God incarnate or one of three Persons that make up God incarnate. Jesus is the one singular God whose name is Yahweh incarnate!
The poor guy was more confused in the end than when he asked the question neither know the scriptures nor the power of God. Jesus Christ is the Son of God conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit acting on Mary Christ was not born of lust.
@@philiprawson5262 So God didn’t blow his beans in her?
Is Jesus God..If yes
Why did God kill himself by commiting suicide
Jesus is mentioned in the bible as a Mighty god , but NEVER Almighty God that title belongs to his father at Psalms 83:18 .
1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men: a man Christ Jesus . ( Again we don't pray to Jesus ,but thru Jesus again he's the middle man a go between as mentioned here in James . That is why the NAME Jehovah was taken out of the Bible . It makes it more convenient to teach the trinity if you can remove God ( Jehovah) from the bible . At one time God's name was written in the bible some 7,500 times.
Every human requires prayer. This is why Jesus, a now mortal, had prayed to god. It’s important to understand that when Jesus was on earth, Yahweh was still ruling heaven. God can be anywhere at any time in any form he is not limited such as the son, Christ by choice to humble himself and die for our sin. The text does not explain his specific detail nor many others because it already explains that god is not of this world and many of his actions are beyond human comprehension.
The question is not "is God limited?", it's would God lie about who he is? And the answer is obviously NO. Jesus told us exactly who he was and who his Father is. They are not the same or co-equal because both of them told us so. Jesus putting on a false display of prayer to convince the crowds that he is praying to God when it is actually him the whole time would be a lie, a flat out deception. Jesus would never do that. God doesn't pray to anyone. This student was exactly right.
@@Pj-fm7oe read Zechariah 12:10, from the Tanakh, far before Jesus was on earth, he was prophesied to exist as god on earth, and was to be pierced by Man. It’s simple. Jesus Christ was sinless, the Tanakh clearly states that nobody, not one is without sin. People were willing to be tortured to death to support what they SAW and KNEW to be true. I hope you have a change of heart on this subject.
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Zech 12:10 calls him an only son and a firstborn son. How do you get out of that that he is God? The prophesy is in no way saying that he is Almighty God.
Romans 5:12 makes it clear that sin is passed down from Adam to all his descendants. But Jesus had no human father and so he had no inherited sin. Why would it be a problem for God's Son to be sinless? Men also cannot see God and live, we are told that multiple times.
So you hope I abandon what Jesus taught and what all of his followers and all the faithful written of in the Bible believed? That God is one and that Jesus is his obedient Son. No, I will never turn aside from what I know to be true. The trinity is a 4th century apostasy, voted into existence by philosophy enamored men and enforced under Roman law by a pagan emperor.
@@Pj-fm7oe they shall look upon ME for whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for HIM, as one mourneth for his only son.
He is speaking of himself in both the 1st and 3rd person in the same sentence. Do you find this to be a mistake? And when he says “as one mourneth for his only son” he is speaking figuratively, not stating that he has only one son, though that is true that god only has one begotten son.
@@derekmichael9375
So he says he has one son and you admit that God has one begotten son, but that's not what this scripture is saying? What do you base that on?
Jesus is Jehovah God's representative, to pierce him is equivalent to piercing God. This no more proves that they are the same then Jesus being one with his followers makes them all the same.
All of this ignores too the huge quantities of scripture that clearly identify Jesus as God's son and not The Almighty. The aforementioned verses that no one can see God and live for example. Why ignore blatant evidence on one scripture and torture the wording on another? It is straining the gnat and swallowing the camel to arrive at the desired conclusion rather than understand it for what it actually says.
John 10:36
King James Version
36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God ? (It was Jesus enemies that was saying he ( JESUS ) was saying he was God NOT Jesus . Cliffe Knechtle is FULL of himself.
Jesus has a Father Jehovah (Which can be found at Psalms 83: 18 KING JAMES BIBLE older version 1953 Edition ) TRINITY IS NOT A BIBLE TEACHING ,It's not even in the bible Cliffe Knechtle is FULL of himself
Jesus is a direct extension of God in similar ways to how were also extensions of God only cut off. They're still separate entities
@@Homedepotorange Yes, I am God’s left pinky finger.
Special pleading to children who know not that his words are parable, not fact.
His name is Yahshua and he prayed to Yahweh. Yahshua’s name literary means Yahweh is salvation. There’s no letter “J” in Hebrew
Correct.
But the Y is pronounced as a J in english, hence the spelling.
A bit like Giraffe is not spelt with a J, jiraffe. Its not same, but you see what I mean.
The "mystery" is why you don't believe what Jesus told you and instead bow to a triune god of your own making.
@@Pj-fm7oe So, Jesus's death on the cross was in vain. That's what you're telling me.
Read Isaiah 53. This servant is not God. @@E-102GammaMKII
@@Pj-fm7oe Jesus told me that Zeus is God.
@@astutik8909 Who is the servant, then?
@@astutik8909 Not God the Father, no.
That young man at the beginning is absolutely RIGHT. CHRIST is the FIRST BORN OF ALL CREATION. GOD ALMIGHTY WAS NOT CREATED. He is everlasting to everlasting. Christ had a beginning.
Jesus said, " this means everlasting life: their taking in knowledge of YOU, THE ONLY TRUE GOD, and the one you sent forth, Jesus Christ.
Jesus is NOT, nor did he ever claim to be God. In fact, after he's resurrected and at the end of the thousand year reign, he hands the kingdom over to his Father he can't hand something over to someone if he is that someone.
The head of the woman is the man, the head of the congregation is the Christ, and the head of Christ is God.
The holy Spirit is NOT a person. It's God's active force. The instrument God uses to accomplish his task . God's sprit / acive force moving about over the surface of the earth Genesis 1:2
The testimony of 2 or more: Jesus said, " If I alone bear witness about myself, my witness is not true. There is another who bears witness about me, and I know that the witness he bears about me is true.. the Jewish law stated that testimony could not be accepted on the basis of one witness, but instead two or more. Notice that Jesus spoke of his father as his witness. If the spirit were another person, wouldn't his third testimony be important as well? And yet, he says NOTHING about the spirit.
When stephen martyr was being murdered, he saw a vision of Jesus at God's right hand side. Absolutely nothing about the spirit .
Christ did not die upon a cross. The translation of the word used in the bible does not describe a stick with a cross piece. It is in fact, an upright pole or tree no cross piece.
The cross is a pagan symbol having its origins in Babylon and associated with the god Tammuz who apostate Israelite women wept over.
"Repent of sins" isn't found in the Bible, either, yet this is what he teaches...
Actually, it is. In the New Living Translation, you’ll actually find the word “repent” 75 times throughout the New Testament. Here is one excerpt from Matthew:
“From then on Jesus began to preach, “Repent of your sins and turn to God, for the Kingdom of Heaven is near.””
Matthew 4:17 (NLT)
@@SupercharizardEx For one, you're using a perverted bible. NLT is NOT translated directly from the Greek. Secondly, you are only saying "repent" is found 75 times...of course it is! "Repent of sins" is NOT. Do you even know what "repentance" means? What is the gospel of our salvation?
If God absolutely hates and despises sin, why would we ever choose not to repent against sin? That’s idiotic. And who are you to say that this particular translation is perverted? That’s like saying the KJV is perverted because it’s not the original scripture written in Hebrew.
@@SupercharizardEx It's clear you're an unsaved goat. Bye.
Jesus is NOT GOD is the simple, accurate answer. John 17:3
Read the whole chapter! Can't just cherry pick verses read in context
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In only chapter 17 Jesus says:
Asks for glory from God
God gave him authority
God gave him people to give life to
his Father is the only true God
God sent him
Jesus gives glory to God
Jesus finished the work God gave him
Asks for the glory that he had alongside God before the world was
Makes God's name manifest
God gave him men out of the world
They know that what God gave Jesus is from God
Jesus gave them sayings God gave him
They know Jesus is God's representative
I'm only in verse 9 but I have to wonder what context you are referring to? There is no context that alters the meaning of what Jesus said into the complete opposite.
@@Pj-fm7oe100 % correct.
Isaiah ch 53. This servant is not GOD.
Acts 3 v 22 = Deuteronomy 18 v 18. This Prophet is also not GOD.
The I am in John 8 is not translated as Jehovah, or GOD or the I AM of Exodus. Thats one of the weakest claims trinitarians often use.
John 10 v 30, compare with John 17 v 11 and 20 to 23? Believers are also given the same glory and are one with GOD.
@@HaroldShipley Zeus is God.
@@gweilospur5877 Only to the mythology believers
Jesus is NOT God he's the SON of God.. Jesus prayed the Lord's prayer "OUR Father you are in heaven holy is your NAME"KJ Bible says God's name is Jehovah.. Psalms 83:18
John 8:58 "Before Abraham was born I AM"
I AM is not a name. It is not God’s name. You must trust scripture and not someone’s or council’s interpretation of it. You have accepted John 8:58 as having a connection to Exodus 3:14. That is someone’s interpretation not God’s explicit statement.
God very explicitly stated what His divine name is.
Exodus 6:3 (this name appears close to 7000 times in the OT)
Do you believe God or some ancient Roman council who claimed to be worshippers?
@@GospelGuardiansYT John 20:17 Jesus referred to his father as HIS GOD
@@theatre721 didn't Jesus refer to his father as HIS GOD .. John 20:17
@@theatre721 you claim "I'm getting it" made me giggle because you're NOT using any scriptures at ALL
God loves you so much he created hell in case you don't love him back 😂😂😂
hmmm, lets think for a min. You believe in god, you live in eternity w him. You don't believe w him, then you live eternity separate from him. If ur a muslim, then u believe in jihads and beating women, if u are a jew, ur ok w rabbis having sex w infant girls. if ur an atheist then idk what to tell you. Read the book lil bro, if u dont understand sum doesnt mean its not true
Jesus is god. A different god to the father
So, 2 gods? Does not make sense to me
@mfadzil931 how can it not?
@@TheRastacabbage wow, even jesus said the father is the only true god? Who are you to make a false statement about 2 gods?
@@mfadzil931 a single verse out of context. Classic
@@TheRastacabbage you want more verses? I can give it for you
Jesus is God but God is not Jesus
@@peterroberts4509 Jesus is God’s left buttock.
Maybe it's because Jesus wasn't God.
@@danamiles2071 Jesus was God’s illegitimate sprog.
Even if Jesus had said "I am not God", some Christians would still make excuses to make him God.
"If"
They already corrupt his words by suggesting he was being coy or deceptive with all the statements he made.
Jesus never made this declaration that the True God in the OT made countless times, “I am the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.”
Exodus 6:3
Jesus referenced the passage yet never applied it to himself. Jesus actually applied to God when Jesus stated, “HE is the God…” Notice Jesus did not say “I” am the God.
Matthew 22:31, 32
Now concerning the resurrection of the dead, haven’t you read what was spoken to you by God:
22:32 -
“I am the God of Abraham and the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob? He is not the God of the dead but of the living.”
Trinitarians accuse Jesus of being very deceptive or demure.
When I was brainwashed many decades ago I had trouble believing the three thing with a god although it was explained in the same mumbo jumbo language as this guy but now, thankfully I realise it is all rubbish as I once thought.
Obviously there remains three different Gospel interpretations of the nature of Christ's divinity. Mark has no virgin birth he is the Messiah the Jews expected an ordinary man who God loved and elevated. He is the adopted son of God becoming the Messiah upon his baptism. Mathew and Luke have Christ being born of Mary as a demigod. Not existing before his birth. John believes him a real God existing before creation. The Gospels do not choose one over the other. That task falls to denominations to decide. Please consult your clergyman.
Jesus is an extension of God. A spiritual manifestation of The Word. Though all are descended fron the Father only Jesus was directly born of him
Lord Krishna is father and Jesus and we all his children
JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD HE IS NOT GOOD