One of the smartest moves Netflix ever made was picking up the series because it already had a large fan base and was very well received when it was cancelled
I just don’t like how everyone is either black gay or trans. It takes u out of the story and makes it seem like a current event, and not going to be a classic series.
I don't know anything at all about the comics, all I know is that Lucifer was one of my favorite shows of all time, especially after season 4 when Netflix picked it up and it got so dark emotional. Loved every second of it
You should read the comics. They are more interesting and deep compared to the tv show's happy, comedic, and drama-based entertainment. Lucifer in the comics is also a completely different breed compared to Ellis's portrayal.
Even though they say the fox/Netflix Lucifer is based on the Gaiman comics there is almost nothing from those comics that carries over into the show. A few names and a few over broad themes, but for the most part the Tom Ellis version is a completely different character based on biblical fanfic rather than any comics. None of the endless show up in the Lucifer show. The only celestial figures that show up are demons, Judeo Christian angels, and the parents of those angels. No gods from the comics or pagan religions appearin the show. Amenadiel is a completely reworked character. Lucifer is at worst careless and arrogant, but he's never cruel or malicious to anyone who isn't an overtly evil or destructive individual. The biggest difference is that in the comics Lucifer, Amenadiel, and Mazikeen don't really care about humans or value human life. By season 2 of the show they do nothing but risk their eternal existences to save humans. Especially the humans they've grown to love. There's more concrete links between the Marvel Civil War comics and the Captain America Civil War film than there are links between Gaiman's books and the Lucifer show.
Very true. They could have made this show as it's own thing by literally just taking away all the Vertigo names like Mazikeen, Amenadiel, Silver City, etc and they would still have the same show without any need to alter anything else. It'd the the same show with the exception that Lucifer wouldn't have had that cameo on the CW shows crossover. This isn't a statement on the show's quality as it's own thing whatsoever, by the way. I personally like both Gaiman's books and the show even though the show isn't really an actual adaptation of the character from the comics. At first it bothered me deeply as i went in expecting to see the actual Lucifer Morningstar on screen but by the second season i had learned to see the project as it's own thing. I'd love to see a more faithful adaptation get their own show. Maybe Gwendoline's Lucifer could get a spin-off. Probably not but one can dream.
If only Bowie were alive and cast. Yet that wouldn't be very "woke", having an actual male playing Lucifer. Yet Bowie may have appeased the alphabet crowd due to his obsession with androgyny.
in 1 sentence: Lucifer can create a universe. In the other sentence: Lucifer can walk for 9 days straight without fatigue... Dafuq? What kind of build up was that? Wow he can walk for 9 days straight... That has to be as impressive as creating a whole universe.
I feel compelled to point out that the Tom Ellis version is just a humanized Desire. Not that I hate the depiction, though they did overcomplicate the show with all the pseudo psychology.
Just saying Lucifer in the tv series Lucifer made a very very good point, he always gets the blame for everything when in fact people make their own choices!
Me too I have nothing against Gwendolyn she does a good job as lucifer But having Tom Ellis as lucifer is Like Hugh Jackman as wolverine Henry Cavill as Superman or Robert Downey Jr as Iron man What I'm saying is Tom is the most accurate lucifer in terms of charisma and his comic book appearance I'd like to see Tom's lucifer in this series at least once even as a small cameo
@@ethanforrester1998 You can't really compare 1 Episode to 6 Seasons. Sandmans Lucifer is set long before the Series starts and deviates from inspiration.
@achimdemus-holzhaeuser1233 I wouldn't go that far. The show Lucifer is definitely not a part of the same cannon as sandman they're both too different to be considered a shared universe all I'm saying is when it comes to the character most people would think of Tom as Lucifer at this point its like being a fan of rami spiderman and than having Andrew come in the role when amazing spiderman came out yes it's not far to compare one episode of a character to a entire series of that same character at least from the standpoint that both of them are based on dc's Lucifer but people will do it regardless cause there more attached to the show Lucifer than sandman's one. That was the point I was trying to make that people might be upset about the change, given time, though if done right, we might eventually see people have more appreciation of sandman's Lucifer
Tom Ellis was perfect as Lucifer. Gender bending Lucifer into Gwendolyn Christy, a big woman, was absolutely bizarre and stupid, and just looked and felt wrong.
The planet Venus is also called the Morning Star (and the Evening Star). I think it's rather poetic to see Lucifer being played by a woman in Netflix's Sandman!
Doesn't matter, she nailed the role perfectly, not once when I saw this and when I do sometimes now, not even a little bit, reminds me of she can't be Lucifer or this is so wrong, I don't even notice that she's a woman, whole time I see her as Lucifer just as I did with Tom. She even reminds me of Hela from Thor 3.
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I loved that LUCIFER on paper was modeled after DAVID BOWIE! In my head I went over all the eps of the netflix series with BOWIE overlaid in the role and it really fits so perfectly! I mean, I think the homie playing LUCIFER now is cool too, but it cool knowing that he's a character who shadowed bowie! Likewise, how cool it is knowing that JOHN CONSTANTINE was originally patterned after STING!
She was good as Lucifer in Sandman, more accurate to the comic than the fox series which was more of a buddy cop show, I never understood DC putting all their properties on separate networks that didn't fit with the characters. CW, Fox, CBS etc does not go well with the DC pantheon of characters. Netflix did a surprisingly good job With Sandman.
Lucifer is the master of deception, it can change shape etc. Also by the time this show was made, David Bowie had already passed away years before, so there was no chance of him playing the role. It's not that big of a deal. She did a good job.
When did empty hand defeat Lucifer? Or were you referring to Darkseid? The empty hand took on one Avatar of Darkseid not his true form. And lastly the empty hands master is the great evil beast which is a avatar of Lucifer himself. Please don't make false statements .
I swear to god stop with your Cap. The presence is the most powerful being and lucifer is the second most powerful being who created the DC universe. And who would also destroy the marvel universe and so far the anime universe
0:07 still laughing my ass off this Luciwoman, i'm 100% sure they were trying something comical on the begining with this female Lucifer crap, but then some people didnt mind and they push foward.
Considering Neil Gaiman was on board, I can assure you it is consistent with the source control. I like Neil's response was something like "well neither of them have penises". Though, I do with we could get a version with David Bowie.
Base spectre can destroy true form living tribunal and Micheal destroyed true form spectre using his one hand neg diff and angel who defeated Micheal Lucifer one shot that angel neg diff writers confirmed great evil beast is Lucifer's aspect and in Lucifer's 2021 comic they said great evil beast was Lucifer's aspect
I love the series but I hate the token gender change. He’s always been a man in the comics so why change him to a woman except for making the woke happy. I wish theycould stay loyal to the comics instead of this constantly trying to make a few screaming idiots happy.
Sandman lucifer was very disappointing. I still don’t know why they gender swapped lucifer who has always been male for all of history. But if they were going to change him at least don’t make him a white woman. What’s wrong with a Latin or Asian woman? Sandman lucifer was also very bland.
Neil gaiman: lucifer was the strongest, wisest, and most beautiful angel, God’s favourite. And he’s a white dude. Netflix: yeah not happening Neil gaiman: ok the exact opposite then
Well they can't make the devil black when we've been told "white man is the devil" for the last 50 years. But they can't make a "popular" character a white male so they compromised and turned him into a chick.
We should remember that angels probably don't have any sex, parts or otherwise. Changing the gender and race of the actors of characters is a newish trend these days, something we are all getting used to.
Lucifer having a daughter please don't make me laugh !HAHAHAHA PATHETIC!! Wait: Let me laugh my a**s off!! OH off course she has to succed him ( the main satan) in being God!! Stronk wahMEN!! If he just slaps...she gonna be missing for thousands of years!! And she shows that she could take on all the big bad, HAHAHA!!
One of the smartest moves Netflix ever made was picking up the series because it already had a large fan base and was very well received when it was cancelled
That show isn't good nor was the other lucifer show isn't to be supported
I just don’t like how everyone is either black gay or trans. It takes u out of the story and makes it seem like a current event, and not going to be a classic series.
You’re going to hell.
In the Lucifer TV show Lucifer says a few of his nicknames the last line is my favorite part Lucifer, “Old Scratch…. I quite liked that one!”
I don't know anything at all about the comics, all I know is that Lucifer was one of my favorite shows of all time, especially after season 4 when Netflix picked it up and it got so dark emotional. Loved every second of it
You should read the comics. They are more interesting and deep compared to the tv show's happy, comedic, and drama-based entertainment. Lucifer in the comics is also a completely different breed compared to Ellis's portrayal.
Even though they say the fox/Netflix Lucifer is based on the Gaiman comics there is almost nothing from those comics that carries over into the show. A few names and a few over broad themes, but for the most part the Tom Ellis version is a completely different character based on biblical fanfic rather than any comics.
None of the endless show up in the Lucifer show.
The only celestial figures that show up are demons, Judeo Christian angels, and the parents of those angels. No gods from the comics or pagan religions appearin the show.
Amenadiel is a completely reworked character.
Lucifer is at worst careless and arrogant, but he's never cruel or malicious to anyone who isn't an overtly evil or destructive individual.
The biggest difference is that in the comics Lucifer, Amenadiel, and Mazikeen don't really care about humans or value human life. By season 2 of the show they do nothing but risk their eternal existences to save humans. Especially the humans they've grown to love.
There's more concrete links between the Marvel Civil War comics and the Captain America Civil War film than there are links between Gaiman's books and the Lucifer show.
Nothing brought your point home more than that last statement lol
Very true. They could have made this show as it's own thing by literally just taking away all the Vertigo names like Mazikeen, Amenadiel, Silver City, etc and they would still have the same show without any need to alter anything else. It'd the the same show with the exception that Lucifer wouldn't have had that cameo on the CW shows crossover. This isn't a statement on the show's quality as it's own thing whatsoever, by the way. I personally like both Gaiman's books and the show even though the show isn't really an actual adaptation of the character from the comics. At first it bothered me deeply as i went in expecting to see the actual Lucifer Morningstar on screen but by the second season i had learned to see the project as it's own thing. I'd love to see a more faithful adaptation get their own show. Maybe Gwendoline's Lucifer could get a spin-off. Probably not but one can dream.
I don't think you understand that they legally have to say its based on the comics. Spend more time learning about stuff first
Tom Ellis rules this role..
Doesn't
@@enterbalak Does.
@@BrooklynHudson no u
@@enterbalak he does..unlike that blonde ..whatever actress...
@@SLqB11 dude she's way better
My favorite Lucifer will always be Tom Ellis( followed by Ray wise and Al Pacino) Gwendolyn Christie was decent.
lucifer was probably my 2nd favorite show of the last decade, behind supernatural
Another fun fact :3 in the comics, lucifer's modeled after David Bowie
I want someone to call Lucifer Morningstar "David Bowie"
I hear the name David Bowie all I can think is the sovereign from the venture bros
If only Bowie were alive and cast. Yet that wouldn't be very "woke", having an actual male playing Lucifer. Yet Bowie may have appeased the alphabet crowd due to his obsession with androgyny.
If Lucifer appears in Harley Quinn S4 Harley and her crew should be all "oh my god it's David Bowie!"
@@milutinstankovic4638 omg yes
I loved the Lucifer series! Now, I see Tom Ellis, whenever I visualize the Devil. 😈
in 1 sentence: Lucifer can create a universe.
In the other sentence: Lucifer can walk for 9 days straight without fatigue... Dafuq? What kind of build up was that? Wow he can walk for 9 days straight... That has to be as impressive as creating a whole universe.
I already saw the whole first season last week and I just I can't wait for more to come this series is so addictive
I liked the sandman version of lucifer but not as good as tom Ellis
I feel compelled to point out that the Tom Ellis version is just a humanized Desire. Not that I hate the depiction, though they did overcomplicate the show with all the pseudo psychology.
Just saying Lucifer in the tv series Lucifer made a very very good point, he always gets the blame for everything when in fact people make their own choices!
Tom Ellis should have played lucifer in the sandman.
Agree but that's not very "Woke" of you, better watch, you could be "canceled" for a dissenting opinion from the establishment thought police.
Agreed... He's played Lucifer in a cameo in the arrow verse
would have created confusion since the cinematic and expanded universes are seperate
nope, the lucifer casted in the show is great
@@cinder7258 that is not Lucifer in the sandman. Lucifer isn't a old woman stop the bs
I was heavily disappointed when the Lucifer wasn’t Tom Ellis 😂
Me too I have nothing against Gwendolyn she does a good job as lucifer
But having Tom Ellis as lucifer is
Like Hugh Jackman as wolverine
Henry Cavill as Superman or Robert Downey Jr as Iron man
What I'm saying is Tom is the most accurate lucifer in terms of charisma and his comic book appearance
I'd like to see Tom's lucifer in this series at least once even as a small cameo
@@ethanforrester1998 You can't really compare 1 Episode to 6 Seasons.
Sandmans Lucifer is set long before the Series starts and deviates from inspiration.
@achimdemus-holzhaeuser1233 I wouldn't go that far. The show Lucifer is definitely not a part of the same cannon as sandman they're both too different to be considered a shared universe all I'm saying is when it comes to the character most people would think of Tom as Lucifer at this point its like being a fan of rami spiderman and than having Andrew come in the role when amazing spiderman came out yes it's not far to compare one episode of a character to a entire series of that same character at least from the standpoint that both of them are based on dc's Lucifer but people will do it regardless cause there more attached to the show Lucifer than sandman's one. That was the point I was trying to make that people might be upset about the change, given time, though if done right, we might eventually see people have more appreciation of sandman's Lucifer
This is one of the most op characters in dc comics history.
I prefer Gwendolyne Christie's Lucifer than Tom Ellis's
Tom Ellis was perfect as Lucifer. Gender bending Lucifer into Gwendolyn Christy, a big woman, was absolutely bizarre and stupid, and just looked and felt wrong.
I thought this was about Tom Ellis...
The planet Venus is also called the Morning Star (and the Evening Star). I think it's rather poetic to see Lucifer being played by a woman in Netflix's Sandman!
In the comics he looks like Bowie
Gotta love the kindergarten teacher version of lucifer. She looks like she is about to teach demons to finger paint 😂😂
David Tennant should voice Lucifer in DC cartoons
As Long as It's Not Teen Titans Go! Such a persistent ass cartoon
How bout Lucifer in Young Justice? Or Harley Quinn?
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When Hades & Lucifer are the nice guys,
Is netflix going woke with making lucifer a girl? Bring back tom ellis dummies
Doesn't matter, she nailed the role perfectly, not once when I saw this and when I do sometimes now, not even a little bit, reminds me of she can't be Lucifer or this is so wrong, I don't even notice that she's a woman, whole time I see her as Lucifer just as I did with Tom. She even reminds me of Hela from Thor 3.
Tom is the man
@@sourabhkarmakar8040 ill take tom ellis over her anyday...
The sandman is better than most of the dceu just saying dc had some duds in shows and movies
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I loved that LUCIFER on paper was modeled after DAVID BOWIE! In my head I went over all the eps of the netflix series with BOWIE overlaid in the role and it really fits so perfectly! I mean, I think the homie playing LUCIFER now is cool too, but it cool knowing that he's a character who shadowed bowie! Likewise, how cool it is knowing that JOHN CONSTANTINE was originally patterned after STING!
She was good as Lucifer in Sandman, more accurate to the comic than the fox series which was more of a buddy cop show, I never understood DC putting all their properties on separate networks that didn't fit with the characters. CW, Fox, CBS etc does not go well with the DC pantheon of characters. Netflix did a surprisingly good job With Sandman.
In other words, in your world Lucifer simply must be female, as Lucifer is clearly "woke", lolol. How predictable the woke indoctrinated are.
Yes, I'm very happy they kept close to comic. Making only small changes adaptations require.
Why the gender swap thou? Seems like the typical modern move
Ok but lucifer morningstar was inspired by David Bowie. So it should have never bee. Some old woman in the show
Lucifer is the master of deception, it can change shape etc. Also by the time this show was made, David Bowie had already passed away years before, so there was no chance of him playing the role. It's not that big of a deal. She did a good job.
Okay now you guys got to do the first of the fallen
Currently Lucifer morningstar is not the second most powerful being in DC and presence is not the powerful character
DC already retconned it
Then who's the most powerful? And I swear if you say True Form Darkseid.
@@ngocosmic4400 lol empty hand defeated him
@@ngocosmic4400 no one knows
When did empty hand defeat Lucifer? Or were you referring to Darkseid? The empty hand took on one Avatar of Darkseid not his true form. And lastly the empty hands master is the great evil beast which is a avatar of Lucifer himself. Please don't make false statements .
I swear to god stop with your Cap. The presence is the most powerful being and lucifer is the second most powerful being who created the DC universe. And who would also destroy the marvel universe and so far the anime universe
My is the sandman version a women smh
0:07 still laughing my ass off this Luciwoman, i'm 100% sure they were trying something comical on the begining with this female Lucifer crap, but then some people didnt mind and they push foward.
I would watch out, such dissent from wokism could render you "canceled" by the establishment thought police.
@@veritasinvicta8128 Oh my god get a hobby
Considering Neil Gaiman was on board, I can assure you it is consistent with the source control. I like Neil's response was something like "well neither of them have penises".
Though, I do with we could get a version with David Bowie.
@@Wouldyoukindly4545 honestly don't care that he's okay with it.
we all know the real reason he went against his own source material and made her a woman & it's not whatever reason he gave
I hope we get an actual, proper, adaptation of lucifer eventually.
Actually, Lucifer like many angels in dc comics are genderless. Which allowed for Gwendolyn to play the character
So that’s why it’s such a great series, it’s bout finding yourself
Base spectre can destroy true form living tribunal and Micheal destroyed true form spectre using his one hand neg diff and angel who defeated Micheal
Lucifer one shot that angel neg diff writers confirmed great evil beast is Lucifer's aspect and in Lucifer's 2021 comic they said great evil beast was Lucifer's aspect
I love the series but I hate the token gender change. He’s always been a man in the comics so why change him to a woman except for making the woke happy. I wish theycould stay loyal to the comics instead of this constantly trying to make a few screaming idiots happy.
The term, "Underrated" is overrated.
The term 'overrated' in Underrated.
I was under the impression that Lucifer in Sandman was nonbinary/agender
Strange that Lucifer is said to be evil yet allowimg himself to follow rules and agreements.
He has to report to God almighty
This is why using they/them pronouns confuse the fuck out of me. for a good portion I thought you where talking about more than one person
Tom Ellis will always be my preferred Lucifer.
Add Peter Stormare and have a Multiverse of Lucifers? 🤔
Yup comic Lucy takes diff forms
Tom Ellis is a cringe shit Lucifer, the new devil is great, I get goosebumps from Christie
The show was a little too Gay
Thousands of years or billions?
Sandman lucifer was very disappointing. I still don’t know why they gender swapped lucifer who has always been male for all of history. But if they were going to change him at least don’t make him a white woman. What’s wrong with a Latin or Asian woman?
Sandman lucifer was also very bland.
Gwendolyn Christie is 6'3"./
"Netflix adaptation" but again Lucifer don't have gender since he Angel but he always shown as a man
Lucifer by Mike Carey was a great antihero and really showed what real power was.
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Neil gaiman: lucifer was the strongest, wisest, and most beautiful angel, God’s favourite. And he’s a white dude.
Netflix: yeah not happening
Neil gaiman: ok the exact opposite then
Well they can't make the devil black when we've been told "white man is the devil" for the last 50 years. But they can't make a "popular" character a white male so they compromised and turned him into a chick.
In the comics lucifer morningstar is based off of David Bowie. No some random white old lady. Please get your facts straight
@3:20 umm what hows she beautiful lmao she's a 3 at best if not a 2 xD
U have convinced me not to watch sandman I think
You should. It's amazing
Lucifer in the comics may appear male at first glance... but tends to be lacking a few defining characteristics... namely genitals of any kind.
We should remember that angels probably don't have any sex, parts or otherwise. Changing the gender and race of the actors of characters is a newish trend these days, something we are all getting used to.
Lucifer having a daughter please don't make me laugh !HAHAHAHA PATHETIC!! Wait: Let me laugh my a**s off!! OH off course she has to succed him ( the main satan) in being God!! Stronk wahMEN!! If he just slaps...she gonna be missing for thousands of years!! And she shows that she could take on all the big bad, HAHAHA!!
This was Lucifer Boringstar.