Nego é.foda, desmerecendo o Arona pq o Kerr não estava tão em forma como antes, o Kerr é wrestling de base, o Arona é do jiu, msm fora de forma era obrigação do Kerr derrubar, sem falar q.ele tinha 20kg a mais, e ele não estava tão longe do auge, no ano anterior ainda amassou vários..Arona brabo sempre, foi lá e atropelou o cara q atropelou todos...
Na verdade não e que o keer não estava em forma, na verdade ele não estava usando o suco 🥤, lutadores como ele e até o arona faziam amor com o suco ja naquela época, 50% do sucesso desses caras era anabolizado
Cara muito do wrestling é o condicionado. Ao contrário do Jiu que exige mais técnica o wrestling é condicionado puro. E eu não estou desmerecendo a arte até porque eu sou um praticante. Eu com meus 39 anos e fora de forma capaz de não derrubar um bom praticante de jiu em forma e no mesmo peso que eu. Não estou dizendo que não há técnica mas é menos relevante que no jiu ou no judô por exemplo. Ou seja tire o condicionado físico de um wrestler e você mata a sua vantagem.
não sou desse tempo temho vinte e seis ano tem ums dez ano que eu aconpanho todas lutas do mma e tenho uma coisa a dizer mark kerr foi uma maquina de bater pena que poblemas de lesões é eu acho que ele tinha obsesão por ganhar e nunca perde quando perdia ficava muito deprimido ele tinha essa fraquesa na sua cabeça se não esse cara seria um dos melhores da historia do mma mais foi um grande guerreiro
O problema maior dele, que atrapalhou a carreira, fez ele perder lutas e se aposentar mais cedo foi a ex-mulher doida que ele tinha, não deixava ele treinar, não deixava ele fazer um camp , não deixava ele viajar! Era uma sociopata que ferrou com a vida dele
Not really, Kerr was already falling off a lot here. A couple years earlier this would have been really interesting to see. Ricardo Arona was an amazing grappler too. He was beating EVERYONE at this time period.
Yes, he was off the PEDs at this point. A few months after this, he fought in Pride and self-KO'd himself from a takedown and he was still very soft and obviously not on anything then either. Mark was a high level wrestler, and even without drugs - that was evident.
Yeah, unfortunately this wasn't Kerr at his best. He had fallen off a ton here. Stopped training completely I believe, and was off PEDS. The Kerr that won the ADCC years before was an animal. He never lost, and would have almost definitely beat Arona. Kerr beat Mario Sperry in the superfight, who was one of the best grapplers on Carlson Gracies team. Sperry, Liborio, and Bustamante were the best I think.
Usou muito esteroides anabolizantes! Faz com que o corpo se acabe mais cedo, a prova viva Victor Belfort, abusou de uso e com o tempo ficou dependente do TRT, pra repor a testosterona. Pq o uso afetou o sistema epatico
@@Lucas-pd8gg TRT na epoca era so uma desculpa pros caras usarem bomba legalmente, o Vitor nao ficou dependente nao. O que acabou com o Kerr foi a dependencia quimica em Painkillers, como mostra no proprio documentario sobre a vida dele "The Smashing Machine".
@@maythefuhrerofunderstandin9624 Both were very problematic for Mark, but the painkillers ruined him really bad. He almost died a few times. I believe he overdosed in the documentary.
Sou muito fã do arona ele foi injustiçado contra o fedor e contra o Wanderlei mas esse keer aí não era nem a metade do keer que assustou o mundo gordo lento fora de forma o arona tinha habilidades para fazer uma luta dura contra o keer em forma talvez até podia vencer mas esse aí não serve de base
Essas lutas do Adcc ,old times, eu já treinei 3 anos corridos disso, não vou dizer que eu era bom porq estaria mentindo ,nunca fui,meu negócio era boxe ,mas um dia eu volto.
Even after he was off steroids, had multiple surgeries, went to rehab and stop training losing all his muscle mass he still grappled with the roided-out arona
@@CommunismiEstCacas Not just off steroids, Kerr was a mess physically and mentally at this point. Wasn't even training. Basically you see how good his wrestling was at one time that even eroded they still allowed him to compete. In shape Kerr would have had little trouble with Arona.
When was at his best he was really good in this format, although not entertaining. No one ever even scored against him. Remember that he beat Mario Sperry, who was one of Carlson Gracies top students, much better than Arona. He used his power. He took guys down and basically held them there and advanced position at times. Sometimes he would just overpower guys with a neck crank or a kimura. He likely would have just held Arona down like he did to Sperry.
@@xy5844 a questão é que o kerr não era nem a sombra do que ele foi tempos atrás dessa luta. O arona Em plena forma e o kerr já acabado, queria ver ele vencer o kerr no auge.
@@tatertots0046 I don't know how someone who sucked as much as Arona did at submissions can be considered the second greatest nogi grappler. In his entire ADCC career, he only ever got a single submission, against some no name guy in the first round. He couldn't even submit Tito Ortiz. Pretty much anyone in the Danaher Death Squad these days is a way better grappler than Arona.
@@mofoshrimp lol no one ever scored a point against Arona at ADCC lol but I guess thats not impressive??? By your logic Floyd Mayweather sucks at boxing since he doesn't get a lot of knockouts. Arona is the GOAT 2x -99kg champ + absolute champ + superfight champ and he was beating guys who were waaaaay bigger like Jeff Monson, Jon Olav, and Mark Kerr.
@@tatertots0046 Arona would get subbed in 60 seconds by a John Danaher blue belt. The sport has evolved massively in 20 years. Arona would be running away from Garry freaking Tonon for the whole match trying not to get his leg ripped off. Arona barely even did BJJ, look at this fight, he won by a single takedown, and he couldn't even keep Kerr on the ground. Arona just happened to compete in ADCC at a time when the competitor pool was microscopic and super jacked up wrestlers could win with wrestling alone. Marcelo, Keenan, Gordon Ryan, and a ton of other guys have probably 100x the BJJ skill Arona did.
@@mofoshrimp LMAO you said he couldn't even keep Kerr on the ground. Do you know who Kerr is? Lol you must be a teenager. Arona beat all styles the huge dominant wrestlers like Mark Kerr and the submissions artist like Jean Jacques(9 submissions at ADCC) Also Nick Rodriguez just got a silver medal at the last ADCC so your theory that you can't win with dominant wrestling is obviously wrong
And Kerr listened to Mark Coleman that advised him for never fighting against a Luta - Livre Esportiva Fighter after Coleman almost lost his left leg to Pedro Rizzo !!!
I really highly doubt that. Kerr beat Sperry in their primes. Sperry was one of Carlsons top students, much better than Arona. I mean even here with Kerr at his worst, Arona should have killed him in 2 seconds, and it didn't seem all that easy for hiim. If the Kerr that beat Sperry was there then Arona would get crushed. I like Arona, but I'm just being honest. You can just tell based on Kerr resume. We know how good of a grappler Arona was. I mean he struggled against Tito in an ADCC match. Kerr was on another level in terms of wrestling. Aronas best chance would be to submit kerr, but if Sperry couldn't then I can't imagine Arona being able to.
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Q batuque infernal!!!
Nego é.foda, desmerecendo o Arona pq o Kerr não estava tão em forma como antes, o Kerr é wrestling de base, o Arona é do jiu, msm fora de forma era obrigação do Kerr derrubar, sem falar q.ele tinha 20kg a mais, e ele não estava tão longe do auge, no ano anterior ainda amassou vários..Arona brabo sempre, foi lá e atropelou o cara q atropelou todos...
Arona no auge e mais novo.
Kerr já fora do auge
Fácil de entender.
@@Braz438 fodase
Eu queria estar fora de forma assim! kkkkkk
Na verdade não e que o keer não estava em forma, na verdade ele não estava usando o suco 🥤, lutadores como ele e até o arona faziam amor com o suco ja naquela época, 50% do sucesso desses caras era anabolizado
Cara muito do wrestling é o condicionado. Ao contrário do Jiu que exige mais técnica o wrestling é condicionado puro. E eu não estou desmerecendo a arte até porque eu sou um praticante. Eu com meus 39 anos e fora de forma capaz de não derrubar um bom praticante de jiu em forma e no mesmo peso que eu. Não estou dizendo que não há técnica mas é menos relevante que no jiu ou no judô por exemplo. Ou seja tire o condicionado físico de um wrestler e você mata a sua vantagem.
People are talking about Kerr like Arona wasn't a walking pharmacy.
Yes
não sou desse tempo temho vinte e seis ano tem ums dez ano que eu aconpanho todas lutas do mma e tenho uma coisa a dizer mark kerr foi uma maquina de bater pena que poblemas de lesões é eu acho que ele tinha obsesão por ganhar e nunca perde quando perdia ficava muito deprimido ele tinha essa fraquesa na sua cabeça se não esse cara seria um dos melhores da historia do mma mais foi um grande guerreiro
O que destruiu a carreira do cara foram as drogas, metadona em especial.
Ficou viciado em opioides para as dores e continuar lutando
O problema maior dele, que atrapalhou a carreira, fez ele perder lutas e se aposentar mais cedo foi a ex-mulher doida que ele tinha, não deixava ele treinar, não deixava ele fazer um camp , não deixava ele viajar! Era uma sociopata que ferrou com a vida dele
Unbelievable Arona was able to get a
Takedown on a national champ.
1fastmex he was really good, so honored that i got to met him and able to see him on a daily bases just come to rio and go to itacoatiara
Not really, Kerr was already falling off a lot here. A couple years earlier this would have been really interesting to see. Ricardo Arona was an amazing grappler too. He was beating EVERYONE at this time period.
MARK KERR totalmente fora de forma e quase aposentado das lutas..
O cara era um monstro.,Fábio Gurgel conhece bem...
Baba ovo de gringo pantera cor de 🌹
O Hugo Duarte também rss
@@celsosegundo2260 Esse sujeito é um admirador de rola.
@@Braz438 hahahaha!!! Foi engraçada a sua resposta. Mas eu tbm ri muito da "pantera cor de rosa" hahahhaha!!!
@@celsosegundo2260
Patriotismo de cu é rola.
O número brasileiro e bom bati palma pra ele
Arona, primeiro a vencer o Fedor, só não levou!
verdade!
Was this after mark got off the PEDs?! He looks soft in this match whereas his other ADCC matches he looked like a comic book superhero.
Yes, he was off the PEDs at this point. A few months after this, he fought in Pride and self-KO'd himself from a takedown and he was still very soft and obviously not on anything then either. Mark was a high level wrestler, and even without drugs - that was evident.
WhitePony1990 hes on methadone for real he had drug issues
Yeah, unfortunately this wasn't Kerr at his best. He had fallen off a ton here. Stopped training completely I believe, and was off PEDS. The Kerr that won the ADCC years before was an animal. He never lost, and would have almost definitely beat Arona. Kerr beat Mario Sperry in the superfight, who was one of the best grapplers on Carlson Gracies team. Sperry, Liborio, and Bustamante were the best I think.
O respeito entre os dois era nitido .👏👏👏
Com certeza por que o arona era fã do KERR
Mark Kerr já estava morto nesse momento.
O preço dos anabolizantes é muito alto
Infelizmente, o Mark Kerr já estava bem fora de forma, praticamente irreconhecível.
Usou muito esteroides anabolizantes! Faz com que o corpo se acabe mais cedo, a prova viva Victor Belfort, abusou de uso e com o tempo ficou dependente do TRT, pra repor a testosterona. Pq o uso afetou o sistema epatico
@@Lucas-pd8gg TRT na epoca era so uma desculpa pros caras usarem bomba legalmente, o Vitor nao ficou dependente nao. O que acabou com o Kerr foi a dependencia quimica em Painkillers, como mostra no proprio documentario sobre a vida dele "The Smashing Machine".
@@maythefuhrerofunderstandin9624 Both were very problematic for Mark, but the painkillers ruined him really bad. He almost died a few times. I believe he overdosed in the documentary.
Sou muito fã do arona ele foi injustiçado contra o fedor e contra o Wanderlei mas esse keer aí não era nem a metade do keer que assustou o mundo gordo lento fora de forma o arona tinha habilidades para fazer uma luta dura contra o keer em forma talvez até podia vencer mas esse aí não serve de base
Nem metade? Não era 10%
Mas também o Kerr destruiu o corpo dele depois de tanta bomba. O Arona não teve culpa disso, não...
@@aluisiofsjr o arona foi um dos grandes do glappling muito forte e técnico mas o keer no auge venceu o mestre do arona o zé Mário sperri no abu Dhabi
@@joserenato6789 , sim mas o Zé Mario Sperry não foi nem metade do que o Arona foi...
@@aluisiofsjr o arona era anormal ele venceu o fedor quando eles lutavam no Japão e garfaram ele na mão grande
Arona looks like he was greasing. Kerr goes for a takedown at 8:30 and Arona slides out of it like a slippery fish.
You know what sweat is?
Essas lutas do Adcc ,old times, eu já treinei 3 anos corridos disso, não vou dizer que eu era bom porq estaria mentindo ,nunca fui,meu negócio era boxe ,mas um dia eu volto.
Tu era RUIM SIM POR ISSO LARGO.. bunda mole sai dae
Venceu fedor no seu auge, creio que foi o maior da sua geração
Even after he was off steroids, had multiple surgeries, went to rehab and stop training losing all his muscle mass he still grappled with the roided-out arona
Itspoptime Guyz 1998 Kerr would have ate Arona for breakfast....he’s fat and sloppy here.... off the juice...
And Kerr never used roids? Hypocrisy.
DeLaRicci , read again
@@markymarco2570 So, he tasted his own medicine!
@@CommunismiEstCacas Not just off steroids, Kerr was a mess physically and mentally at this point. Wasn't even training. Basically you see how good his wrestling was at one time that even eroded they still allowed him to compete. In shape Kerr would have had little trouble with Arona.
Arona foi um monstro
I don’t recall Kerr being a submission fighter. I wonder what his ground game had in store for Arona. Arona moves so fast for a guy his size.
He won a few golds at adcc.
When was at his best he was really good in this format, although not entertaining. No one ever even scored against him. Remember that he beat Mario Sperry, who was one of Carlson Gracies top students, much better than Arona. He used his power. He took guys down and basically held them there and advanced position at times. Sometimes he would just overpower guys with a neck crank or a kimura. He likely would have just held Arona down like he did to Sperry.
Fruity -Tunes
What’s happening with Kerr’s tan?
He’s so pale
O kerr no auge teria destruído o arona. Fosse no ADCC ou MMA, o arona não teria sido páreo para o spicemen
Aroma jiu jitsu finíssimo
Arona foi melhor e pronto, ninguém entra o ADCC despreparado. Mark Kerr era monstro mas o Arona nessa luta foi mais
Arona fala dessa luta como se fosse grande coisa, uma das lutas mais chatas que já vi.
nem todo mundo gosta de luta olímpica, nem todo mundo gosta de jiu jitsu
@@xy5844 a questão é que o kerr não era nem a sombra do que ele foi tempos atrás dessa luta.
O arona Em plena forma e o kerr já acabado, queria ver ele vencer o kerr no auge.
@@Braz438 , o Ler lutou por que quis.... O melhor venceu
Do que o MARK KERR tanto reclamava?
Mão na cara .
Fotografo Minuzzo Mark Kerr completamente fora de forma!
Se o arona pegasse o Kerr no auge era insano.
Seria esmagado o o arona.
@@Braz438Isso eu duvido, Arona era um trator nesta época.
@@CommunismiEstCacas sim nessa época ele era mesmo,e o Kerr não tava mais no auge
Mark Kerr in his prime would destroy Arona...
Arona was undefeated at ADCC. After Roger he's possibly the greatest nogi grappler of all time
@@tatertots0046 I don't know how someone who sucked as much as Arona did at submissions can be considered the second greatest nogi grappler. In his entire ADCC career, he only ever got a single submission, against some no name guy in the first round. He couldn't even submit Tito Ortiz. Pretty much anyone in the Danaher Death Squad these days is a way better grappler than Arona.
@@mofoshrimp lol no one ever scored a point against Arona at ADCC lol but I guess thats not impressive??? By your logic Floyd Mayweather sucks at boxing since he doesn't get a lot of knockouts.
Arona is the GOAT 2x -99kg champ + absolute champ + superfight champ and he was beating guys who were waaaaay bigger like Jeff Monson, Jon Olav, and Mark Kerr.
@@tatertots0046 Arona would get subbed in 60 seconds by a John Danaher blue belt. The sport has evolved massively in 20 years. Arona would be running away from Garry freaking Tonon for the whole match trying not to get his leg ripped off. Arona barely even did BJJ, look at this fight, he won by a single takedown, and he couldn't even keep Kerr on the ground. Arona just happened to compete in ADCC at a time when the competitor pool was microscopic and super jacked up wrestlers could win with wrestling alone. Marcelo, Keenan, Gordon Ryan, and a ton of other guys have probably 100x the BJJ skill Arona did.
@@mofoshrimp LMAO you said he couldn't even keep Kerr on the ground. Do you know who Kerr is? Lol you must be a teenager.
Arona beat all styles the huge dominant wrestlers like Mark Kerr and the submissions artist like Jean Jacques(9 submissions at ADCC)
Also Nick Rodriguez just got a silver medal at the last ADCC so your theory that you can't win with dominant wrestling is obviously wrong
Uncle Renatch at 2:11
02:47
Isso é uma luta ou uma Dança 😂😂😂😂
Arona amassou!!!!!! Chupaaaa que é de uva!!!!! Heeeeeeyyyyy
Kerr beat every top BJJ guy, do the research
Except Arona. By the way, Arona won all the ADCC editions he participated without suffer one point.
This was not the same Mark Kerr that one dominated. Every champ has to relenquish the crown eventually.
And Kerr listened to Mark Coleman that advised him for never fighting against a Luta - Livre Esportiva Fighter after Coleman almost lost his left leg to Pedro Rizzo !!!
Marco Ruas and Pedro Rizzo scaried almost all Wrestlers from the old school from Ufc ( 1993 - 1999 )
The only exception was Oleg Taktarov that had the most beautifull feud between champions Taktarov vs Ruas !!
real natural american strength vs brazilian steroids. go kerr go.
Yeah, natural for sure 😂😂😂
tons of cheating in sports. incredibly unmanly.
Arona no auge venceria o Kerr no auge.
I really highly doubt that. Kerr beat Sperry in their primes. Sperry was one of Carlsons top students, much better than Arona. I mean even here with Kerr at his worst, Arona should have killed him in 2 seconds, and it didn't seem all that easy for hiim. If the Kerr that beat Sperry was there then Arona would get crushed. I like Arona, but I'm just being honest. You can just tell based on Kerr resume. We know how good of a grappler Arona was. I mean he struggled against Tito in an ADCC match. Kerr was on another level in terms of wrestling. Aronas best chance would be to submit kerr, but if Sperry couldn't then I can't imagine Arona being able to.
Luta fraca,ainda mais com esse batuque irritante .
Horrible match
Marc not be nothing
vitamin vs mineral
Achmad Thalib , I still some apparel from this old brand.
Q porra de batuque é esse?
Saco