After playing crisis core, 15:33 is the one that feels comical to me. Just imagining if they remade this cutscene and watching Sephiroth jumping onto the pod's window to get a proper view of the inside
I mean he was a nice guy before all he'll broke loose. He was considered a hero by many, I'm sure taking a photo wasn't a big deal to him, he looked rather shy to do so.
Yeah man, people these days just do NOT understand Joe mind blowing and how far ahead these graphics, storylines, and characters were for it’s time….keep in mind this is early PSX days!
I think a line that was kind of lost in translation was one of the Shinra guards commenting, "We're short one bed..." The creepy implication of that was supposed to be, Sephiroth never sleeps, because he doesn't need to.
28:24 is such an important line On the surface, it just looks like an injured Tifa thanking Cloud because he was there to save her and fulfilled the promise But it's actually her desperately calling out for him, because she doesn't think/know that he's there, and is a clue for how Cloud wasn't a soldier
true. and to think, we don't learn till later the full story of what happened. and Cloud somehow living through Zack's stories stored in his broken memory he became the hero, when he wasn't even First Class.
It is even more powerful when you realize how cold she was towards Cloud during the whole flashback, even though they are supposed to be childhood friends. But that's easily overlooked due to the clever writing. That's why this moment is just so moving when the truth is finally revealed.
@@karunyagopan The remake shows no restraint because it's actually a sequel to the original, if you have no knowledge of the originals then a lot of what happens in the remake loses its impact. As a standalone story part 1 of the Remake would just seem mediocre at best compared to the original, I don't know what's planned for the future parts so I can't speak on them but outside of the combat part 1 isn't anything special, if it came out 10 years ago then maybe but timeline stories have been done to death now and ultimately that's what the remake is. Regardless of the franchise, timeline stories ALWAYS fall flat and the best example of this is Mortal Kombat.
I wonder whatever happened to that random Shinra mook who was always following Cloud and Sephiroth around. I hope he made it out all right. Boy, I bet he has a real story to tell.
It's a shame that, in the semi-scripted battle with the dragon, Cloud's attack missed, and the dragon only attacked Sephiroth, who can't take damage. When I first played, I remember attacking the dragon for like, 42 damage, and the dragon wiped Cloud's entire health bar with just one shot; then Sephiroth attacks, for THOUSANDS of damage, when for the first 10 hours of the game, the best you can do is around 250. That made my blood freeze over and left my jaw on the floor. "Holy fucking shit, I'm gonna have to fight THAT!?" They don't just tell you Sephiroth is powerful and terrifying, and they don't just show it to you either: you _feel_ it, and you _know_ it, through the game mechanics you've been playing with all along. Absolutely masterful interactive storytelling.
Let alone Sephiroth reviving you before he takes his kill. It was the biggest flex showing off a glimpse of his power through incredible story telling.
They made sephiroth pretty stoic and omniscient in the remake, so to see him break down and slowly lose his mind in part 2 will surely be a surprise to new players, which is why this my most anticipated scene for the remake.
It like all he remembers he thinking Cloud the one fighting Sephiroth all by himself but no in reality Zack fight almost whole fight and end up lose and cloud come alone and help Zack and Tifa, Cloud really doesn't remembers everything
Love how the game shows Tifa being awkwardly silent in the beginning and just goes along with Cloud’s story even though she knows the truth about what really happened.
Not quite. She thinks she knows the truth but clouds retelling is so accurate it makes her doubt her own recollection. If cloud truly wasn’t there as she believed then how would he know all of these events? It’s the unreliable narrator in full swing. Tifa has her doubts with clouds version but not full confidence in her own therefore she doesn’t interject as she herself isn’t certain which is integral for us not questioning it either. The storytelling is fantastically subtle and nuanced in the OG and the whole execution of this is what makes FF7.
it's because Jenova cells was influencing clouds and her memories, this was preventing her to remember things correctly, she knew something was off but couldn't place it, and was afraid to ask because something was telling her that if she did something terrible will happen. that was explain after the north crater incident after they found Cloud and she and him fall in the life-stream where Cloud recovers his memory.
@@ItsSVOYeah, no. The point would stand if we didn't actually have Tifa being terrified at showing how contradictory Cloud's words are, fearing that he might turn once again in the same state he found him in at the station. That's without mentioning the fact that Cloud keeps on saying that it all happened 5 years ago, when Tifa knows and can't doubt that it actually happened 7 years prior. Tifa isn't doubting her knowledge of the events, she's just scared of speaking them out loud because of the effect they could have on Cloud's mind.
What if sephiroth was just sleep deprived and/or hungry? lmao Maybe someone should have made him take a nap or eat a sandwich and then Nibelheim would've had a different fate
EXACTLY!!! May be you were just kidding, but I made a theory like that. To me, he fell asleep after one week of reading and Jenova took over his mind. The more I think about it, the more this kind of things make sense.
same here. Just that cozy feeling of camping around the fireplace in Kalm telling that story. It was so comforting and cool and immersive. It was my first rpg and first ps game so you can imagine 10 yearold me was blow away
“Out of my way. I am going to see my mother.” Que music. This part sent chills down my spine and made me shocked when I left the mansion and saw everything on fire. I felt scared, especially with that cutscene of Sephiroth looking edgy and going into the fire. To this game, no game can make me as shocked as that
Definitely one of the best moments in the game. I still remember the spoiler-free world when FF7 dropped and just leaving Midgar for the open world blew my mind... And this was the intro to that, also mind blowing. IMO, FF7 will always be the greatest video game ever made.
The way they show how strong he is with no voice or cool animations is great, you get one shot and then he destroys every enemy on 2 hits all along this tense music
I look at it this way, Rebirth took a different approach with the Flashback which I enjoyed the whole traversing of Mt. Nibel before reaching the reactor. And being able to control Sephiroth in battle, what I didn’t like with Rebirth’s Flashback. Was when Sephiroth torched Nibelheim, that had that pillar fall on Clouds leg. And had him limping through Nibelheim a bit, but overall I enjoyed Rebirth’s Flashback. The original is better, but I still enjoyed the Flashback sequence in Rebirth.
I played this game when I was 8 on ps1. I absolutely loved it at the time. It had me hooked and intrigued. I still remember how it felt to play it back then. Little did I know I was making video game history at the time.
Underrated video/clip. This is the part that made thousands of people almost shit their pants. With how good this game is at story telling it really puts you in the moment and it's really horrifying.
Yup, this is something often overlooked. Just like the part where you're imprisoned by the shinra, and you find everyone in the building brutally murdered, huge scratches on the walls, blood everywhere and the doors of the jail which supposedly kept you safe while sleeping where open. It's not a horror game, but some parts were deeply scary and unsettling for how good and immersive they were.
I agree, to at least some extent. I get that the majority of Remake players would be 7 vets like us, but his mystery leading up to the Nibelheim flashback was always one of the best parts of the game.
@Jennifer56 yes, that's part of it. But at the wrong times also. Saying and doing a bunch of unnecessary shit. He appears before the bombing mission even fucking finishes without even so much as establishing the world and characters so the first offhand mention of his name builds up enigmatic status around him. I didn't like President Shinra appearing either and stopping the focus and momentum of the action. Like the entire way of storytelling is done horribly let alone Sephiroth
@@mrjameshendry I mean of course that case is gonna be made, but at least do it to some interesting and effective way instead of the dumbness they did use for him. And following that logic, that kind of further strengthens my prediction that Tifa is going to die instead of Aeris in this game, and honestly that would replicate the same shock and surprise of Aeris's death and be even more tragic
Apparently, Remake one opened possibility that this one Sephiroth, is, in fact, the same one that we defeat in original one game. As is some fragments his been "would" survive and came them another really, realizing him also there are a Multiversal Existence. If this is true Remake's goal, and this one Sephiroth are his remants came toward another really, "perhaps" his new path "be" trying to change the fates of each parallel universe, using another ways, instead summons Meteor.
Man the music in this game can carry so many scenes. The music when you first find Sephiroth in the basement sounds sad and tragic. That whole scene feels sad, and then the scene fades to black and there is HUGE tonal shift, but it is underlying, dangerous, but it isn't here yet. Then "I am going to see my mother" the music hits the danger is no longer underlying, the menace is here and now and there is nothing you can do to stop it.
To me, the incident marks not just the death of the more human side of Sephiroth but his awakening to what he really is. I think Jenova was calling to him, we see at the reveal of Jenova one eye glowing. It's dormant but still alive. We know that a creature infected with Jenova cells will be called towards the main body. Sephiroth believed himself to be a Cetra but we find out for ourselves that Jenova is an alien creature like The Thing, capable of changing shape and looking like whatever it wants to and that even if it's cut up into pieces all those pieces, every cell, will reunite. Through Cloud we see the effects of the reunion and how it manipulates someone down on an instinctive level. With instincts you can try to rationalize your behavior however you want but deep down your instincts are compelling you to act. So to me, here's how i see things going. Sephiroth grows up knowing that he is different somehow. When he sees the monsters in the reactor he despairs that he was made the same way, i believe that this emotion is being caused by his close proximity to Jenova, possibly even waking it up from the stasis the Cetra put it in. Jenova slyly influences Sephiroth to discover his origin and seek out his mother. By the time he has got to the reactor the manipulations of Jenova have driven Sephiroth mad and he is feeling the pull of reunion. Then he does something that Jenova doesn't expect, he decapitates her. When Cloud eventually throws Sephiroth into the Lifestream Sephiroth has shrugged off much of Jenova's individual will but he has been awakened to the instinctual craving for power that Jenova, or rather it's species, has. There's just no way that Jenova is the only being like her, and Sephiroth is, by and large, one of them. A race of planet eaters. Since in this universe planets are alive and the souls of the dead linger on, which would be a great source of energy for an organism that can consume it. Once Sephiroth becomes awakened to exactly what he is he overpowers Jenova's personality and will, he becomes the new Jenova, manipulating every Jenova cell on the planet towards his end goal of becoming a being like his mother.
The problem with this “overpowering” story is that it just doesn’t fit what we’re shown onscreen. Sephiroth only ever speaks of Jenova with reverence and love.
I think Sephiroth is ultimately controlled by Jenova. His "Overpowering" of Jenova is just in line with Jenova's goal to devour the planet. And since Sephiroth had Jenova cells injected into him at Birth, he has become a new vessel for Jenova. It's absolutely brilliant writing with how they did Jenova and Sephiroth.
Yeah, I loved how they stayed so true to the original. Having Cloud be Sephiroth's equal in every way really sold the power dynamic between them and made him seem a credible threat.
@@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers to be fair, the OG probably made a first class representation of cloud a bit overly weak, doubt a 1C-SOLDIER would be getting 1 shot by every other monster around.
To be fair, you should kinda suspect something was off when Tifa wasnt practically thrilled or super-excited to see Cloud after being gone for so long. Theyre childhood friends, you'd think she'd immediately come over and give him a big hug when the two first meet again in the flashback.
The remake will probably change everything to make it less shocking and more ridiculous. All the people in Nibeilheim will be evacuated before it's set on fire. Tifa will then lead the townspeople in a retaliation attack on Midgar while riding on Disney animals that are brought in to the FFVII universe due to a time skip, that creates rips that bleed from other universes. Winnie The Pooh and Tigger will hold hands with Cloud while he has his Nibelheim flashbacks. They will even wear Shrinra uniforms. You know, stuff like that. :)
Is it just me, or does it faintly sound like that one part of One-Winged Angel is playing instead of the windshield wipers at the scene from 0:41 onward when their on the road lol
So far no other JRPGs can come close to its level of plot twists without feeling forced and tacked on. FF7 plot twists felt so natural and made sense. It also had an important piece of worldbuilding (Materia) that is really tied well with the gameplay. Most of the minigames are also fun and unique.
"Sephiroth's strength is incredible. He is far stronger in reality than any stories you may have heard about him." Such a powerful line that I just haven't seen anything similar to in any work of fiction, you always hear something like "he's just as powerful as they say" or something like that, you never see someone be like: "he's actually way stronger, even stronger than the legends say" and it's really intimidating to hear that, the rarity of hearing a character overstate someone else's power just makes the line hit so much harder. Were I not a teenager by the time I played Final Fantasy VII, I can only imagine the shivers that line would have sent down my spine if I played through this game as a child.
I just realized after watching this scene again - Cloud was so ashamed he never even visited his Mother. That was all a fantasy of what he thought the interaction with his Mom would be. This game is still giving me new discoveries to this day.
2:50 this is true master storytelling on a videogame. At this point of the game and outside of the flashback, you are level 10-13. After winning some bosses, you consider yourself strong with 100 damage. Here, you are degraded because is the past and you are a beginner. Futhermore, you have to face a gigantic power enemy, so it is impossible for you to win. but you have a Lvl 50 in your team. Super powerful, who destroyed your enemy like it is nothing for him. You cant control him, but you win the battle while getting shock seeing how powerful he is. After the fight is done it, you remember he is not just an enemy of the game. He IS the enemy. I Wish Square Enix take this scene seariously on the Remake. For me, until now, there is only just one FF7, and it belongs to the 90s
This scene makes me think... Who's the real villain? It's Sephiroth, that became insane after he discovered his origins, or was Hojo, the one that created Sephiroth?
i really hope they show all this done right in remake part 2 and not exactly how crisis core did especially having genesis involved like he changed something when in the original he wasn't even there also have sephiroth actually show more emotion in his voice than how george newbern did which was fine but could be easily improved on especially him starting to go insane
Hum... when I played the new rebirth demo, I felt like they had recreated this well, but watching this again, they broke the sephiroth scale to a new level now.
Man kids these days will never. EVER understand just how groundbreaking and breathtaking this game was when it came out….we literally played this game all day everyday the moment we got home from school until it was almost time to get up for school 😂 You better believe we got every character, secret, and side quest!
New one is quite well-made but couldn't replicated the feeling from the original like omnious, myterious, and Sephiroth's first impression that make you feel so small and the greatest mistake is they replacing large-ass dragonw with 2 pathetic creatures
I think zack's flashback will be different it will be closer to this. In rebirth cloud went back to the inn after he went to the mansion here cloud sleep in the mansion. Zack is the real one cloud is only a soldier so it is obvious he went back to the inn. I like how rebirth is doing it the elevator must also be fake.
@@Xygor You guys are still both a bit wrong. Yes, Zack was there, but in reality this WAS actually Cloud not Zack... Yes, Zack was the SOLDIER with the giant sword who accompanied them on the mission but these aren't Zack's memories, they're Cloud's. Cloud is just remembering himself, his visage, as Zack but the memories are his own. So Cloud is the one who followed Sephiroth to the basement library to speak to him, then later confronted him inside the mako reactor. Cloud's memories are his own, its his persona that he "lifted" from Zack. When Zack busts a mako poisened Cloud out of the Shinra mansion, he talks all about becoming a merc for money, Cloud's entire fake persona is a combination of his experiences with Zack in Nibelheim and the conversation Zack had with Cloud in the back of the pickup truck.
To add to this, it gets a little muddled because SOMETIMES it IS Zack, but it's easy to tell when its actually Cloud... for example... We see Cloud doing squats and being all hyper in the back of the truck while the two soldiers are mostly silent. Clearly Cloud is remembering himself as Zack here, and the real Cloud was one of the generic goons sitting in the Shinra truck silently - but we obviously know Cloud is the one who stabs Sephiroth, so it was most likely Cloud who talked to him in the library as well. How else could Cloud have known about all of that?
@@utpalninjajedi Tifa believed Cloud was not there and would've thought he's making it all up except that he was very accurate with the sequence of events so he obviously knew what happened, so she went along with it with hopes that she'll get to the bottom of it and clear everything up. She saw Zack buy not Cloud but as wr all know later they were both there, and Cloud did really save Tifa, etc etc
If you're here 'after the demo', please - play the original 1997 game first if you haven't already. They are taking insane liberties with the story, and you owe it to yourself to experience the best version.
9:18 what’s going on here? tifas dad asked sephiroth for a picture then he asked tifa to ask sePHIROTH FOR HIM? did sephiroth ignore him? and why is sephiroth just looking back and forth like that. 💀
30:20 - JENOVA MADE IN ????? ALL RIGHTS RESERVED 1999(? wasn't this cut scene made before that?) SQUARE COMPANY LIMITED first time i've noticed this! :D
I know that always annoyed me, everyone says it's cause she was afraid it might break him or some shit, but i personally never liked this plot twist, i hope Rebirth changes this.
Because her own recollection of events are hazy due to trauma and also nearly dying. While she is doubtful of clouds retelling not matching her own memory of events, how could he retell things so accurately if he wasn’t there? She doubts her own memories of events because his are so accurate so he must be right and she is misremembering events. The key is that cloud unbeknown to Tifa was there but as a shinra grunt. It’s what is so fantastic about the writing.
Seeing what he is nowadays, seeing Sephiroth willingly line up for a group photo is oddly disturbing and comical at the same time.
After playing crisis core, 15:33 is the one that feels comical to me. Just imagining if they remade this cutscene and watching Sephiroth jumping onto the pod's window to get a proper view of the inside
I mean he was a nice guy before all he'll broke loose. He was considered a hero by many, I'm sure taking a photo wasn't a big deal to him, he looked rather shy to do so.
@@blackmailz 🤣🤣🤣he will be looking kinda cute
the photo is in the original game though
IKR
The entirety of this cutscene in game was so incredibly engrossing to me. One of my favorite moments in gaming personally.
Part 2 of the remake will kick off with the flashback. It is what I am most excited for honestly.
Just experienced it! Jaw dropping...
@@shopforme7 Can. Not. Wait.
Yeah man, people these days just do NOT understand Joe mind blowing and how far ahead these graphics, storylines, and characters were for it’s time….keep in mind this is early PSX days!
@@shopforme7 Huh? I thought it starts off in the grasslands leading up to Kalm. The flashback is way after where we left off in Remake part 1.
This man spent 72 hours reading Hojo's research material without sleeping.
No wonder he snapped
After learning about the mentally deranged shit going on that he himself was unknowingly a part of, who'd ever want to sleep again?
I think a line that was kind of lost in translation was one of the Shinra guards commenting, "We're short one bed..." The creepy implication of that was supposed to be, Sephiroth never sleeps, because he doesn't need to.
Also why would he believe Hojo. He said it himself self hojo sucks lol
How do you know he was reading for 72 hours? Where is that reference. Wondering if I missed it.
Isn't it Gast's research he's reading at that point?
"My mother called me Cloud because she wanted me to shoot for the stars but figured I'd only get halfway there."
28:24 is such an important line
On the surface, it just looks like an injured Tifa thanking Cloud because he was there to save her and fulfilled the promise
But it's actually her desperately calling out for him, because she doesn't think/know that he's there, and is a clue for how Cloud wasn't a soldier
An unspoken advantage of no voice acting.
true. and to think, we don't learn till later the full story of what happened. and Cloud somehow living through Zack's stories stored in his broken memory he became the hero, when he wasn't even First Class.
It is even more powerful when you realize how cold she was towards Cloud during the whole flashback, even though they are supposed to be childhood friends. But that's easily overlooked due to the clever writing. That's why this moment is just so moving when the truth is finally revealed.
17:11when he starts slashing really wish they showed more of this in rebirth because I love how the masamune sword sound effects a lot
0:45 A legend is born. I love how the makers of FFVII had the restraint to postpone even showing Sepiroth until this moment, several hours in.
I wish the restraint was still present in the remake...
This whole flashback gives me chills because of how little we knew of him up until then.
It’s of the best story presentations and character intros of all time.
@@karunyagopan The remake shows no restraint because it's actually a sequel to the original, if you have no knowledge of the originals then a lot of what happens in the remake loses its impact.
As a standalone story part 1 of the Remake would just seem mediocre at best compared to the original, I don't know what's planned for the future parts so I can't speak on them but outside of the combat part 1 isn't anything special, if it came out 10 years ago then maybe but timeline stories have been done to death now and ultimately that's what the remake is.
Regardless of the franchise, timeline stories ALWAYS fall flat and the best example of this is Mortal Kombat.
"Regardless of the franchise, timeline stories ALWAYS fall flat and the best example of this is Mortal Kombat."🤓
I wonder whatever happened to that random Shinra mook who was always following Cloud and Sephiroth around. I hope he made it out all right. Boy, I bet he has a real story to tell.
I see what you did there quite the paradox 😏
Ah-ha!! No spoilersss ~
He saw some pretty serious shit on this trip. Probably gave him some kind of complex.
It's a shame that, in the semi-scripted battle with the dragon, Cloud's attack missed, and the dragon only attacked Sephiroth, who can't take damage. When I first played, I remember attacking the dragon for like, 42 damage, and the dragon wiped Cloud's entire health bar with just one shot; then Sephiroth attacks, for THOUSANDS of damage, when for the first 10 hours of the game, the best you can do is around 250. That made my blood freeze over and left my jaw on the floor. "Holy fucking shit, I'm gonna have to fight THAT!?" They don't just tell you Sephiroth is powerful and terrifying, and they don't just show it to you either: you _feel_ it, and you _know_ it, through the game mechanics you've been playing with all along. Absolutely masterful interactive storytelling.
Let alone Sephiroth reviving you before he takes his kill.
It was the biggest flex showing off a glimpse of his power through incredible story telling.
I can’t wait for this scene to be in the next part of the remake.
cant wait it to be the Epic beginning of Part 2 :D
Yup when they showed a flashback of Sephiroth talking to Jenova I said this is going to be intense!
I'm so excited I could cry. It's gonna be soooo good
They made sephiroth pretty stoic and omniscient in the remake, so to see him break down and slowly lose his mind in part 2 will surely be a surprise to new players, which is why this my most anticipated scene for the remake.
It like all he remembers he thinking Cloud the one fighting Sephiroth all by himself but no in reality Zack fight almost whole fight and end up lose and cloud come alone and help Zack and Tifa, Cloud really doesn't remembers everything
Love how the game shows Tifa being awkwardly silent in the beginning and just goes along with Cloud’s story even though she knows the truth about what really happened.
The subtle foreshadowing is wonderful, along with the little jump-cuts when Cloud is retelling what his mother and he were talking about.
Not quite. She thinks she knows the truth but clouds retelling is so accurate it makes her doubt her own recollection. If cloud truly wasn’t there as she believed then how would he know all of these events? It’s the unreliable narrator in full swing. Tifa has her doubts with clouds version but not full confidence in her own therefore she doesn’t interject as she herself isn’t certain which is integral for us not questioning it either. The storytelling is fantastically subtle and nuanced in the OG and the whole execution of this is what makes FF7.
@@ItsSVOyeah this. Most people don’t get that. Nibelheim was rebuilt with clones after too people forget that aspect.
it's because Jenova cells was influencing clouds and her memories, this was preventing her to remember things correctly, she knew something was off but couldn't place it, and was afraid to ask because something was telling her that if she did something terrible will happen. that was explain after the north crater incident after they found Cloud and she and him fall in the life-stream where Cloud recovers his memory.
@@ItsSVOYeah, no. The point would stand if we didn't actually have Tifa being terrified at showing how contradictory Cloud's words are, fearing that he might turn once again in the same state he found him in at the station. That's without mentioning the fact that Cloud keeps on saying that it all happened 5 years ago, when Tifa knows and can't doubt that it actually happened 7 years prior. Tifa isn't doubting her knowledge of the events, she's just scared of speaking them out loud because of the effect they could have on Cloud's mind.
What if sephiroth was just sleep deprived and/or hungry? lmao
Maybe someone should have made him take a nap or eat a sandwich and then Nibelheim would've had a different fate
Sephiroths not himself when he’s hungry. Let’s give him a snickers bar
In newer render cut scenes and movie, he did look super tired. Zack should've asked him to take a nap
EXACTLY!!! May be you were just kidding, but I made a theory like that. To me, he fell asleep after one week of reading and Jenova took over his mind. The more I think about it, the more this kind of things make sense.
“Made??????????”
This scene always made me miss my Mum. Even when she was in the other room.
That's sweet, man.
Thats the exact moment I was completely hooked by this game
same here. Just that cozy feeling of camping around the fireplace in Kalm telling that story. It was so comforting and cool and immersive. It was my first rpg and first ps game so you can imagine 10 yearold me was blow away
26:33 Still the coolest looking moment even on a PS1. And best Smash Bros. victory screen
And 28:52, damn.
17:55
“Out of my way.
I am going to see my mother.”
Que music.
This part sent chills down my spine and made me shocked when I left the mansion and saw everything on fire. I felt scared, especially with that cutscene of Sephiroth looking edgy and going into the fire. To this game, no game can make me as shocked as that
Yeah man, a classic moment for sure!
Definitely one of the best moments in the game. I still remember the spoiler-free world when FF7 dropped and just leaving Midgar for the open world blew my mind... And this was the intro to that, also mind blowing.
IMO, FF7 will always be the greatest video game ever made.
I love ff7 but mgs got some cutscenes
For me this was the absolute best to see Sephiroth wreck every enemy in sight
The way they show how strong he is with no voice or cool animations is great, you get one shot and then he destroys every enemy on 2 hits all along this tense music
Looking back on the original, knowing that Sephiroth was just as masterful a Black Mage as he was a Samurai somehow makes him seem even more OP.
Tifa keeping quiet at the start was such a fine detail i missed when i was younger. But she knew it wasn't him he was talking about, it was Zack.
This will always be 100 percent better than any remake. Its perfect the way it is.
Yeah, flashback segment im the remake was meh
nope
I look at it this way, Rebirth took a different approach with the Flashback which I enjoyed the whole traversing of Mt. Nibel before reaching the reactor. And being able to control Sephiroth in battle, what I didn’t like with Rebirth’s Flashback. Was when Sephiroth torched Nibelheim, that had that pillar fall on Clouds leg. And had him limping through Nibelheim a bit, but overall I enjoyed Rebirth’s Flashback. The original is better, but I still enjoyed the Flashback sequence in Rebirth.
First time I did this flashback was when I really got sucked into the story.
I played this game when I was 8 on ps1. I absolutely loved it at the time. It had me hooked and intrigued. I still remember how it felt to play it back then. Little did I know I was making video game history at the time.
I stopped playing for a while and just finished Cosmo Canyon. Needed a refresher of what happened!
Underrated video/clip. This is the part that made thousands of people almost shit their pants. With how good this game is at story telling it really puts you in the moment and it's really horrifying.
Yup, this is something often overlooked. Just like the part where you're imprisoned by the shinra, and you find everyone in the building brutally murdered, huge scratches on the walls, blood everywhere and the doors of the jail which supposedly kept you safe while sleeping where open. It's not a horror game, but some parts were deeply scary and unsettling for how good and immersive they were.
Nibelheim flashback, or In which Sephiroth goes full on, pants-on-head, f*ck-nut crazy.
18:14
Genesis: No such luck... you are a monster
what, I had to
The Gravity of this kept me up for nights until I finished the game. GREATEST STORY EVER
A literal dragon: [dies from two Masamune hits]
Lv. 1 Tifa: tis but a scratch
😂😂😂 true true
I am SO looking forward to seeing this part in PART 2 of the remake!
They ruined Sephiroth in the remake and the entire effect of the exposition of him that made such an impact in the original
I agree, to at least some extent. I get that the majority of Remake players would be 7 vets like us, but his mystery leading up to the Nibelheim flashback was always one of the best parts of the game.
Everyone on earth knows who Sephiroth is by now. You can't keep the exact same plot twists in the remake.
@Jennifer56 yes, that's part of it. But at the wrong times also. Saying and doing a bunch of unnecessary shit. He appears before the bombing mission even fucking finishes without even so much as establishing the world and characters so the first offhand mention of his name builds up enigmatic status around him. I didn't like President Shinra appearing either and stopping the focus and momentum of the action. Like the entire way of storytelling is done horribly let alone Sephiroth
@@mrjameshendry I mean of course that case is gonna be made, but at least do it to some interesting and effective way instead of the dumbness they did use for him.
And following that logic, that kind of further strengthens my prediction that Tifa is going to die instead of Aeris in this game, and honestly that would replicate the same shock and surprise of Aeris's death and be even more tragic
Apparently, Remake one opened possibility that this one Sephiroth, is, in fact, the same one that we defeat in original one game. As is some fragments his been "would" survive and came them another really, realizing him also there are a Multiversal Existence.
If this is true Remake's goal, and this one Sephiroth are his remants came toward another really, "perhaps" his new path "be" trying to change the fates of each parallel universe, using another ways, instead summons Meteor.
Man the music in this game can carry so many scenes. The music when you first find Sephiroth in the basement sounds sad and tragic. That whole scene feels sad, and then the scene fades to black and there is HUGE tonal shift, but it is underlying, dangerous, but it isn't here yet. Then "I am going to see my mother" the music hits the danger is no longer underlying, the menace is here and now and there is nothing you can do to stop it.
24:50 if only someone told him he wasn't produced, Lucrecia gave birth to him, all of this could've been avoided
25:05 the way that music kicks in
Well, Vincent was sleeping in the other room, if only he could just wake up to tell Sephiroth that he is Lucrecia's son :(
and removed in rebirth -_-
Aaaah... good old gameplay narrative: Sephiroth giving a new meaning to overpower.
3:00 that noob dragon XDD
This whole flashback made Sephiroth my favorite villain!
To me, the incident marks not just the death of the more human side of Sephiroth but his awakening to what he really is.
I think Jenova was calling to him, we see at the reveal of Jenova one eye glowing. It's dormant but still alive. We know that a creature infected with Jenova cells will be called towards the main body.
Sephiroth believed himself to be a Cetra but we find out for ourselves that Jenova is an alien creature like The Thing, capable of changing shape and looking like whatever it wants to and that even if it's cut up into pieces all those pieces, every cell, will reunite.
Through Cloud we see the effects of the reunion and how it manipulates someone down on an instinctive level. With instincts you can try to rationalize your behavior however you want but deep down your instincts are compelling you to act.
So to me, here's how i see things going.
Sephiroth grows up knowing that he is different somehow. When he sees the monsters in the reactor he despairs that he was made the same way, i believe that this emotion is being caused by his close proximity to Jenova, possibly even waking it up from the stasis the Cetra put it in.
Jenova slyly influences Sephiroth to discover his origin and seek out his mother. By the time he has got to the reactor the manipulations of Jenova have driven Sephiroth mad and he is feeling the pull of reunion.
Then he does something that Jenova doesn't expect, he decapitates her. When Cloud eventually throws Sephiroth into the Lifestream Sephiroth has shrugged off much of Jenova's individual will but he has been awakened to the instinctual craving for power that Jenova, or rather it's species, has.
There's just no way that Jenova is the only being like her, and Sephiroth is, by and large, one of them. A race of planet eaters. Since in this universe planets are alive and the souls of the dead linger on, which would be a great source of energy for an organism that can consume it.
Once Sephiroth becomes awakened to exactly what he is he overpowers Jenova's personality and will, he becomes the new Jenova, manipulating every Jenova cell on the planet towards his end goal of becoming a being like his mother.
The problem with this “overpowering” story is that it just doesn’t fit what we’re shown onscreen. Sephiroth only ever speaks of Jenova with reverence and love.
I think Sephiroth is ultimately controlled by Jenova. His "Overpowering" of Jenova is just in line with Jenova's goal to devour the planet. And since Sephiroth had Jenova cells injected into him at Birth, he has become a new vessel for Jenova. It's absolutely brilliant writing with how they did Jenova and Sephiroth.
Watching this again after I played the demo.
It’s wonderful how they recreated literally everything.
Yeah, I loved how they stayed so true to the original. Having Cloud be Sephiroth's equal in every way really sold the power dynamic between them and made him seem a credible threat.
@@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers to be fair, the OG probably made a first class representation of cloud a bit overly weak, doubt a 1C-SOLDIER would be getting 1 shot by every other monster around.
@@PlanCeee Doubt a 16 year old could so easily make 1st.
@timonalexandr151 well, I mean technically... all l will say on that one.
@@PlanCeee What I'm trying to say is that if the player thinks about it, Cloud's whole flashback story is inconsistent from the very beginning.
Spoilers
In a way you are kind of playing as Zack throughout that entire section
To be fair, you should kinda suspect something was off when Tifa wasnt practically thrilled or super-excited to see Cloud after being gone for so long.
Theyre childhood friends, you'd think she'd immediately come over and give him a big hug when the two first meet again in the flashback.
I honestly wished sephiroth kept his sanity he would of made a cool party member
I wonder if could Sephiroth recovers it in Remake, if he realizes that Jenova is, indeed, an Alien, and both Lucrecia y Hojo, their human parents?
Is it the themes,or because of older animation making this scene more haunting?
28:52 Few modern games come close to creating this atmosphere.
FF7 was ahead of its time!
In og people are afraid of them in rebirth sephiroth was like a rockstar when they arrive. Hmmm
0:49 inside truck scene
Out of my way, I'm going to go see my mother.
The remake will probably change everything to make it less shocking and more ridiculous. All the people in Nibeilheim will be evacuated before it's set on fire. Tifa will then lead the townspeople in a retaliation attack on Midgar while riding on Disney animals that are brought in to the FFVII universe due to a time skip, that creates rips that bleed from other universes. Winnie The Pooh and Tigger will hold hands with Cloud while he has his Nibelheim flashbacks. They will even wear Shrinra uniforms. You know, stuff like that. :)
Is it just me, or does it faintly sound like that one part of One-Winged Angel is playing instead of the windshield wipers at the scene from 0:41 onward when their on the road lol
Yeah I kinda noticed that too
*veni veni venias ne me mori facias*
The story of the original FF7 rivals any novel, film or any other medium. It's one of the best stories I have ever heard.
So far no other JRPGs can come close to its level of plot twists without feeling forced and tacked on. FF7 plot twists felt so natural and made sense. It also had an important piece of worldbuilding (Materia) that is really tied well with the gameplay. Most of the minigames are also fun and unique.
@@Luso1221 💯
Had to come back here after Remakes lackluster flashback
I love how in smash his pose for the idle model is the victory pose and his taunt is his battle stance
This doesn't have the scene where he visit's Tifa's house.
I actually prefer this version to the canon one.
So does Cloud
The wording in the original is better than the rebirth especially for seph. But all in all I enjoy both but the original was the one I grew up with
"Sephiroth's strength is incredible. He is far stronger in reality than any stories you may have heard about him."
Such a powerful line that I just haven't seen anything similar to in any work of fiction, you always hear something like "he's just as powerful as they say" or something like that, you never see someone be like: "he's actually way stronger, even stronger than the legends say" and it's really intimidating to hear that, the rarity of hearing a character overstate someone else's power just makes the line hit so much harder.
Were I not a teenager by the time I played Final Fantasy VII, I can only imagine the shivers that line would have sent down my spine if I played through this game as a child.
I just realized after watching this scene again - Cloud was so ashamed he never even visited his Mother. That was all a fantasy of what he thought the interaction with his Mom would be.
This game is still giving me new discoveries to this day.
Lmao why is Sephiroth mouth like this😯 the whole time
I hope they adapt Sephiroth’s breakdown as best they can in the remake.
I can’t wait
one mission squat two mission squat three mission squat
2:50 this is true master storytelling on a videogame.
At this point of the game and outside of the flashback, you are level 10-13. After winning some bosses, you consider yourself strong with 100 damage.
Here, you are degraded because is the past and you are a beginner. Futhermore, you have to face a gigantic power enemy, so it is impossible for you to win.
but you have a Lvl 50 in your team. Super powerful, who destroyed your enemy like it is nothing for him.
You cant control him, but you win the battle while getting shock seeing how powerful he is.
After the fight is done it, you remember he is not just an enemy of the game. He IS the enemy.
I Wish Square Enix take this scene seariously on the Remake. For me, until now, there is only just one FF7, and it belongs to the 90s
The only thing from the demo i was disappointed in was Sephiroth not slicing the pods with his Masamune when he was angry
Just played FF7 rebirth today. Then I thought I needed to rewatch this
This scene makes me think... Who's the real villain? It's Sephiroth, that became insane after he discovered his origins, or was Hojo, the one that created Sephiroth?
Never noticed Sephiroth's mouth was open all the time, can't unsee it now :(
I think this is only in the PC version.
Ps1 version had no mouths
i really hope they show all this done right in remake part 2 and not exactly how crisis core did especially having genesis involved like he changed something when in the original he wasn't even there also have sephiroth actually show more emotion in his voice than how george newbern did which was fine but could be easily improved on especially him starting to go insane
Hum... when I played the new rebirth demo, I felt like they had recreated this well, but watching this again, they broke the sephiroth scale to a new level now.
I was disappointed by the music in the rebirth scene.
god dammit sephi boi had an existencial crisis
My favorite part of the game I can't wait to see what the remake does with it (hopefully no gackt though)
Man kids these days will never. EVER understand just how groundbreaking and breathtaking this game was when it came out….we literally played this game all day everyday the moment we got home from school until it was almost time to get up for school 😂 You better believe we got every character, secret, and side quest!
Gracias por compartir, 27 años de haberlo jugado
Bro made the greatest villain arc in gaming history ever!
This video was also 5 years ago ironically 😂 Making it's comeback from Rebirth 👍
True!
20:08
Door: _Opens_
Also door: _Makes closing sound_
can't wait to see Tifa here in Rebirth
24:58 Oof, of all the places for the music to cut out...
Cloud, Sephiroth, Tifa, and Ramirez go to the Nibelheim reactor.
Poor Kowalski…
“It’s a shame I accidentally broke that part in the Mako Reactor”
13:00 this was gold lmao, it kinda makes Sephiroth's descent into madness even more tragic
Ok as much as I love this scene in the original,the remake is soooo good🔥
I was disappointed by the music in the rebirth scene.
Really?I thought the music was amazing
@@daniellawson8182 Music was just okay. I was expecting like a remix of the OG music, like what they did with the OG battle theme.
New one is quite well-made but couldn't replicated the feeling from the original like omnious, myterious, and Sephiroth's first impression that make you feel so small
and the greatest mistake is they replacing large-ass dragonw with 2 pathetic creatures
So Sephiroth turned out to be a monster!!! Talk about fall from grace.
Ladies and gents, WE BOUTTA COME OUT OF THE DEMO!!!!
25:05 KINO
I think zack's flashback will be different it will be closer to this. In rebirth cloud went back to the inn after he went to the mansion here cloud sleep in the mansion. Zack is the real one cloud is only a soldier so it is obvious he went back to the inn. I like how rebirth is doing it the elevator must also be fake.
28:02 “Who is she?” Is what everyone talking about rn
@@justsumguy492 Zangan martial arts go brrrrr
What’s the song called starting at 25:09?
Those chosen by the planet
The whole part before it was part of the song too.
Anyone after the Rebirth demo?
Yeah…
I skipped this by accident the first time i played FF7, kept asking myself who is dis Sephiroth
Way better than Rebirth. Sorry
How
In some ways yes. In other ways, no.
Shinra can build Mako reactors, Midgar, and highway in Midgar, but they can’t build a wooden bridge Nibelheim
*There is a video of this fight Search: Nibelheim Flashback By Brian Smith*
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Who's here after the demo?? Ayyy
Ayyy!
Ayyy... :(
So I'm still a bit confused. In reality this was actually Zack and not cloud right? Cloud was actually one of the regular soldiers in blue?
Yes
So I guess then did tifa know the truth or was she also confused?
@@Xygor You guys are still both a bit wrong. Yes, Zack was there, but in reality this WAS actually Cloud not Zack... Yes, Zack was the SOLDIER with the giant sword who accompanied them on the mission but these aren't Zack's memories, they're Cloud's. Cloud is just remembering himself, his visage, as Zack but the memories are his own. So Cloud is the one who followed Sephiroth to the basement library to speak to him, then later confronted him inside the mako reactor. Cloud's memories are his own, its his persona that he "lifted" from Zack. When Zack busts a mako poisened Cloud out of the Shinra mansion, he talks all about becoming a merc for money, Cloud's entire fake persona is a combination of his experiences with Zack in Nibelheim and the conversation Zack had with Cloud in the back of the pickup truck.
To add to this, it gets a little muddled because SOMETIMES it IS Zack, but it's easy to tell when its actually Cloud... for example... We see Cloud doing squats and being all hyper in the back of the truck while the two soldiers are mostly silent. Clearly Cloud is remembering himself as Zack here, and the real Cloud was one of the generic goons sitting in the Shinra truck silently - but we obviously know Cloud is the one who stabs Sephiroth, so it was most likely Cloud who talked to him in the library as well. How else could Cloud have known about all of that?
@@utpalninjajedi Tifa believed Cloud was not there and would've thought he's making it all up except that he was very accurate with the sequence of events so he obviously knew what happened, so she went along with it with hopes that she'll get to the bottom of it and clear everything up. She saw Zack buy not Cloud but as wr all know later they were both there, and Cloud did really save Tifa, etc etc
Sephiroth's perpetual :O face kind of ruins it for me... I hope that's a glitch.
Normally his lips arent like that
@@joshbarron3244 I’m sure that’s true, but I’ve never seen it.
it's only in the ports. in the original ps1 release, none of the characters had mouths.
Bruh. Now I can't unsee it😵
Now we get demo it's all about This
Yep. Can’t wait for the full game!😢
The irony is, this is the lie a fake memory.
@@rosscomt5295 Hey! Spoilers much for those who didn’t finish the game?!
@@loganthevillager9176 the OG is literally 27 years old. How long do you want to keep the plot hidden, another 27 years 🤷🏻♂️
@@rosscomt5295 Idk. People who only played the remake?
If you're here 'after the demo', please - play the original 1997 game first if you haven't already. They are taking insane liberties with the story, and you owe it to yourself to experience the best version.
Cloud, AKA Popeye.
9:18 what’s going on here? tifas dad asked sephiroth for a picture then he asked tifa to ask sePHIROTH FOR HIM? did sephiroth ignore him? and why is sephiroth just looking back and forth like that. 💀
30:20 - JENOVA
MADE IN ?????
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED 1999(? wasn't this cut scene made before that?)
SQUARE COMPANY LIMITED
first time i've noticed this! :D
Yeah, it's hard to fully make out
No one:
Literally no one:
Not a goddamn soul:
R
It doesn’t matter if you are human or not, not much good being one. In fact you are a superhuman 😅
why does Tifa doesn't interject with the story that Cloud made off though? shouldn't she's supposed to remember zack?
I know that always annoyed me, everyone says it's cause she was afraid it might break him or some shit, but i personally never liked this plot twist, i hope Rebirth changes this.
I honestly just kind of pretend this is the real one and the whole tifa and cloud in the lifesteam doesn't happen when I play
Because her own recollection of events are hazy due to trauma and also nearly dying. While she is doubtful of clouds retelling not matching her own memory of events, how could he retell things so accurately if he wasn’t there? She doubts her own memories of events because his are so accurate so he must be right and she is misremembering events. The key is that cloud unbeknown to Tifa was there but as a shinra grunt. It’s what is so fantastic about the writing.
Name of music at 25:39? I'll find it eventually, but for the sake of others. This is my burning stuff music
Song’s name is “Those chosen by the Planet”
@@xylmo1040 Checks out! Thanks, I will be enjoying burning stuff in the future while this song is playing
Can anyone name the track that appears at 19:11?