This superman reminds me of the superman, justice league and justice league unlimited animated series, it was always my favorite how his character was more careful with his strength.
@@littlebitsofterror5788 Anyone who thinks Superman can't be cool, just look up "Superman world of cardboard." Superman is freaking awesome in that moment.
The image of Luthor riding piggyback on Dr. Octopus was so memorable that it got worked into, of all things, Avengers Forever in a sequence about alternate universes. That's a book that doesn't even feature Spider-Man but Kurt Busiek couldn't resist having Carlos Pacheco draw them in.
17:00 I kind of imagined them meeting in jail like this: Dr. Octopus: So what they get you for? Lex Luther: Giant robot, try to steal something, foiled by superhero. Dr. Octopus: *scoffs* Same. Lex: Superheroes am I right?! Doc Oc: Tell me about it.
Yes, as a matter of fact, in 1976, Gerry Conway was heard having this conversation with Dc's and Marvel's editors. "Listen, I know the segmentwith the African tribes doesn't relly contribute to anything, but hear me out: imagine, for a second, in less than a couple of decades, computers all being linked together in a sort of interconected system that spans around multiple countries, a "World Wide Web", if you will. If such a thing happened, I'm sure that this joke about Superman being culturally insensitive will be the thing we need to secure this books success as a classic! Also, do you think you can reconsider your decision about cutting the two dick jokes during Sup and Spidey's fight? I really think it adds something to the overarching plot!"
Sketchman911 Mind you it was because Lex Luthor’s very first crime was stealing cakes from a bake sale in high school because from day one he liked to retaliate against institutions that don’t promote his brilliance, in this case the science fair
LOIS LANE: Thank you for agreeing to this interview Mr. Luthor. LEX LUTHOR: My pleasure, Ms. Lane. And please, call me Lex. LOIS LANE: Ok, why did you steal forty cakes, Lex? LEX LUTHOR: Allegedly? LOIS LANE: Allegedly. LEX LUTHOR: Allegedly, because I could. LOIS LANE: Allegedly? LEX LUTHOR: Allegedly.
I love the image of Superman just letting himself be punched until the other guy tires himself out. It's the sort of thing only Superman could or would do.
Wait a minute . . .The comic mentions NASA sending its first laboratory up into space, but then later we see the Injustice Gang's orbital headquarters. Forget the USSR nearly winning the Space Race, how depressing is it that SUPERVILLAINS beat NASA at building a Space Station.
Because DC and Marvel have what’s called a sliding timescale basically it DC and Marvel just refused to let their characters age past 20 or 30. This is the reason why Spider-Man and Robin the first one remain teenagers for so long and only recently allowed them to become adults as they did not want to age up their characters so much in the fear of having them be retired, so anytime DC and Marvel a redo characters origins but several characters from the 1940s such as for DC the justice Society of America and for Marvel the invaders are from the 1940s so when the question is asked of when did Batman and Superman debut and when did the marvel age began depends on the time the origins are being retold in marvel is said that 20 or 15 years have passed since the marvel age began as for DC. It’s been 20 or 30 years. The problem is when you have 60+ years of history it cause problems for marvel since it never had a reboot, a successful one you have to make recon certain things like for example read reacher and Ben Grimm fought in World War II in older tales well characters like Wolverine can get away with this well upper characters cannot so they have to make up new wars like with Iron Man who has to push it to whatever war is happening at the time this is most the reason why comics of the big two is hard to get into you have so much history and backed in the Internet did not exist
They are easier to treat in the real world too... Go figure, a gun blowing a whole through something tearing jagged chunks of flesh out as it goes isn't supes easy to stich up and slap and a bandaid on... Stab wounds CAN be just as lethal, but assuming we're just talking treating a non fatal wound, then a stab wound is WAY easier to treat than a gunshot wound
I completely agree with you that the DCAU "World's Finest" is the best way to pull that off. I loved that movie as a kid and I still do now. They need to get the writers behind that to direct the new DC movies
@@JinxProductions Well while I think for what it is it has better execution, a few things to remember. First, it's basically an extended episode, and as such it's animation quality is that of cartoons of the time (not they are much better now but still), but what suffer the most is the directing. It's.... kind of basic. The same goes with the writing. It's tight, but it lacks ambition. It's just "two popular superheroes fighting a villain", it lacks any sense of themes and ideas. Now, don't get me wrong: I think Batman V Superman UTTERLY FAILS at executing it's ambition, and despite some impressive shots, the directing also suffer from a lot of issues. I'm not trying to say it's any "good", nor that the TV special was bad, I'm just saying that comparing the two seems....... Out of place. They clearly do not have the same ambitions, and the most we can say is that one fails while the other succeeds.
That reminds me of a crossover idea I had, what would WW2 be like with the superheroes of the 40s from Marvel and DC that were around at the time. I was thinking, the first super hero team, Justice Society of America with Captain America, Wonder Woman, Human Torch, Blue Beetle, Namor, The Flash, Wolverine and Green Lantern. First people to have those names by the way.
a teacher i had in high school offered me not the comic boom in spanish but the opportunity to read it. i could have enough time. i regret it i know octopus and spiderman get the short end of the stick. but considering his spiderman has been on mainstream media for barely a decade, they could have him rescuing civilians while superman handles the big threats. is not helped the luthor and superman are in their silver age levels of power. still this is a good comic
Honestly, JLA/Avengers is one of my favourite comics ever. It feels so...natural, so well thought out? and I love all of the fights-Especially the climax, the parts with the rosters changing from era to era!
@@tylerbertram7065 I would as well but if we're going by their 90s shows, it has to be Barnes and Daly. Personally, I'd like a Batman vs Spider Man movie with Conroy and Keaton as their characters.
Wonder what Linkara thinks about the new ongoing Spider-Man book which has Peter and MJ and Mayday all fighting crime with powers. DC Rebirth is a nice shot in the arm for DC's characters, I really enjoy it.
I do think the team up/fight is actually very natural; they're both newsmen who use their investigative jobs to find crimes, and their most famous enemies are mad scientists; it's going to be a very smart thing considering that Spidey is a scientist and Supes is pretty damn smart.
17:40 really funny you say that cause this universe dubbed the crossoververse talks about its own version of the clone saga it’s only talked about not seen but it had not only Ben Reily living but Peters Daughter May as well
"Notice how I didn't make any Superior Spider-Man references here" .......Because that was actually a pretty okay story-line that just had some dumb story bits here and there and the main reason people hated it was because it was in the main Spider-Man books and not some alternate universe Spider-Man or some indie comic with Spider-Man and Doc Ock stand-ins?
I like how the warehouse Sups smashes through is owned by the ACME company. It’s like this comic knew DC and Looney Tunes would later be owned by the same people. And before anyone corrects me I did my research. Warner Bros did not own DC in the 70’s.
I want DC and Marvel to do another crossover, hell I'd even write it myself, they need to stop this nonsense where they can't get along, fans and kids alike want another crossover.
Re-listening to this after YT started recommending some of your older videos to me. And I gotta say, I did love this crossover in spite of its flaws like having the Marvel characters a bit sidelined on both the hero and villain front. Which does make me sad they don't do these anymore. Heck, I would pay for a "World's finest" style miniseries where you have Spidey and Supes instead of Bats and Sups, with each complimenting each other. On a second note, spider web is stronger than steel, and I am inclined to believe Peter's is at leas as strong if not stronger than natural spider web so... superman basically made peter webbing's worse. Man, Silver Age supes really was a Nightwing, if you catch my drift.
***** I thought it was Batman V Superman when I believe atman comments that the harbour is abandoned on Sundays, meaning no civilian casualties. And it just comes off as silly.
Thanks for this, I bought this comic when it first came out. Parents threw it out with my collection long ago. Loved the big pages. Couldn't find it anywhere till now.
Well, if they just shot Superman with the red sun radiation... yeah, that'd temporarily depower him, but then there wouldn't be someone distracting Spider-Man. Making Spidey able to match blows with Supes for a while keeps them both busy with each other and thus out of the villains' hair. And there's the added bonus of the fight potentially damaging the heroes' cred.
Except that there's no need to distract Spidey because they're both hidden and Spidey has mad on for Superman. My biggest question is, if Luthor has so much red sun radiation at his disposal, why is Superman still such a problem?
GeneralKenobi75 "They're both hidden" doesn't mean that Spidey wouldn't try to FIND them, idiot. They obviously wanted to both distract and bait Spidey because, if you'll recall, the *reason* Spidey has a mad-on for Superman is because of Luthor-disguised-as-Supes seemingly vaporizing Mary Jane!!!
ZeldaTheSwordsman No need to get nasty. Also, Spiderman wouldn't go after them because he doesn't know they're behind it, he's still going after Superman.
23:00 You obviously haven't read many of the storylines dealing with MJ's past. Long story short, she's a total gadfly who enjoys getting a rise out of people as a way of hiding her personal pain. She was just kidding around with Lois.
i dont remember when it turns out she found out peter's identity.especially considering this is 3 years after the 1° step into the end of th silver age of comic books (the night gwen stacy died, the others were Crisis/Secret Wars and the final step Watchmen)
The first trade paperback I bought when I started collecting comics was Marvel/DC Crossover Classics. It contains both Superman/Spider-Man stories, Batman/Hulk, and X-Men/Teen Titans. Still have it, and still a favorite. I enjoyed pretty much all of the crossovers between the big 2, and miss them.
I agree with you, Linkara. I hate it when superheroes spend the whole time fighting each other rather than the villains. Particularly Batman and Superman fighting because they have "different ideologues" when that is strait crap. They have different (methods), yes but they have the exact same ideology. A symbol to strike fear in to the wicked and inspire hope in the good and innocent. Just because they go about it in different ways, Bats though the shadows and Supes in the light if day, doesn't mean that their end goals are any different and I am sick of bad writers and dumbass fanboys thinking that it does.
I don't think Superman aims at striking fear, most of the time he gives speech about the villains being better than they are and rethink their life while Batman simply break bones, and knowing that a guy dressed as a bat punch criminals at night isn't really inspiring hope. They might respect each other but with all the kryptonite traps and superbots army in the fortress of solitude they will have conflict between the two
+alucardyoici Well superman does strike fear because he's unstoppable. Batman can't engage people with guns as easily as supes can so he has to knock them out and that means breaking bones in the process in some cases
+alucardyoici That and Gotham is different that Metropolis. Gotham is that bad part of the neighborhood you have to stay out. So batman helps by being ruthless. If anything I like that phrase from the Noland movies. Batman is the hero that Gotham needs as it needs someone to clean up crim ans act better than the police bit it's not the one it deserves as batman's methods can be a bit harsh
Zxzero36 yes Batman needing to break bones because he is weak kind of stopped making sense when he made a battle armor that can spar with superman. And if if being unstoppable was all it took to strike fear every heroes including batman would scare criminals after the third time they beat darkseid
***** Oh yeah cause batman is impervious to bullets and can just whisk the villains away with out harm can he? Its allways better to make sure your opponents cant fight back. Thats why beanbag guns are used sometimes they also can break bones mostly ribs. Tear gas is horrible but it gets the job done with out loss of life. Power armor is bulky and is an easy target. Batman works in the shadows.Remember the hell-bat armor can kill him which is why he doesn't use it. Not everyone in comics is smart you know
Andrew Bull I am not really a fan of this cross over team up, I feel that Supes pulled all the weight while Spidey was just there to occasionally shoot webs.
Yes and no, I was reading up about Superhero crossovers with real life people when I heard the news of his death, I had already known of the crossover so I naturally decided to learn more about the crossover and it sounds glorious in a way that Linkara would enjoy.
The Booster Gold issues with Ronald Regan are in the DC showcase presents Booster Gold vol one, which just so happens to be the first comic book I ever bought because of Linkara.
Jimmy Olsen in 1976 was a junior reporter, he wasn't a photographer, and had been since 1940. This is probably due to one thing, Superman: the Movie! Jimmy Olsen was introduced to a very large non comic reading audience and his career was staff photographer. One would think that this change would influence the comics somehow, being that it seems to be the thing, to do these days to make the comics more movie like, with the comics these days constantly revamping the looks and attitudes to better match their on screen counterparts. This didn't happen here, from 1978 and on, Jimmy was a reporter for the Galaxy network and while occasionally grabbing a camera and snapping photos, it would take 15 or so years and one comic reboot for this to become his most remembered and closely associated career. It wasn't until 1991, when Jimmy fired from the Daily Planet due to budget cuts, and living out of his car, found a camera, and took pictures of a battle occurring, that Jimmy found his calling, a photographer.
Hey I read this at the library back when I was a kid. It was in a giant trade, collection of DC and Marvel Crossovers; that also has the X men team up with the New Teen Titans, and Hulk vs Batman.
Here's a tiny side-note regarding this Comics title in other countrys: They actually renamed Spider-Man in Germany for this comic. Yes. Just for this one comic he got renamed. Just look up "Super-Man VS Super-Spider". Again, yes, I'm not kidding. Sadly there are no official informations why this change was made, but if I would have to guess I think that the German editorial maybe had a similiar problem with Spideys adjectives and then decided to even it out in some way. Still very weird, esspecially when you consider that Spideys name was already changed up to beginn with in Germany. Nearly ever published Marvel Hero got a translated name for the German speaking market. For example, Spider-Man was changed to "Die Spinne" (Which translates back just to "The Spider") and Iron-man was known as "Der Eiserne" ("The Iron-One") until the mid-90s.
29:10 Yeah, Spidey used to web up a bunch of objects like that in the Silver Age. I'm not sure at what point they realized "You know? Maybe that's too cheesy." Wait... They already incorporated emotive eyes into the new movies... You don't think... I kind of hope not.
I would like to see a Dragon Ball Z/Superman crossover where Supes and Goku work together from the start and the question of them fighting each other never even comes up.
Hell, pretty sure Goku would know that Supes is a good guy from the get go..though he would point out that he looked like that weird guy from Penguin Village..also, what's your poison? Mxy combining Darkseid with Majin Buu? Frieza with Mongul...or Cell with Doomsday? So that Goku and Superman would do the fusion dance?
I hope this happen, not only because I love crossover and the two franchise. But aslo for SHUT FUCK UPING this assholle who want to know who is stronger.
I could picture the crossover starting off on a very bad start. Superman friends & Goku's friends are scattered across a battlefield. Some are dying or severely injured, Superman & Goku are fighting a new villain. Who is this villain? I can't think of a name, but the new villain is more than a match for Superman & Goku. Goku & Superman look at each other & (without uttering a word) wonder if this will be the one fight they wont win. After a series of events, Superman & Goku triumph. With senzu beans & Dende's help, everybody is healed. Goku: Before me & my friends return home, I would like to say that its been an honor to fight along side you. Superman: Likewise. Goku: Though we come from different worlds, let us part as brothers. Superman: I agree. Superman & Goku shake hands & the credits roll.
Maybe it's my Marvel - bias talking, but I feel that the story isn't very good once you get past the novelty of Superman and Spider-Man meeting. After his fight with Superman, you could digitally erase Spidey from every panel and the story would be more or less the same. All the obstacles and problems the duo faces are solved by Superman, while Spidey just stands there and drools over how awesome Superman is. The scene with the computer even completely ignores both spider-sense and the fact that Spidey is super-genius. What is even the point of making the story a crossover, if one of the heroes is going to be completely useless? Also, a fun fact. In the Finnish translation of this comic, Clark Kent's workplace was changed to Daily Planet and his boss to Perry White.
I'd like to believe that Universe 616 is where all the original comic book universes (& other franchises) exist: the original DC & Marvel Comics, the Mirage Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles comics (it's implied the same accident that turned Matt Murdok into Daredevil also created the TMNY) Generation 1 of Transformers & GIJoe & the Spawn comics (because Marvel now owns the rights to the Spawn character Angela) & possibly others (Spawn appeared in Soul Calibur 2, the Soul/Tekken series crossover with Star Wars, God of War, Nier, the Witcher, Assassin's Creed & the Nintendo verse)
Interestingly that massive book you were talking about was given to me as a christmas gift back in the late 80s too bad I didn't take good care of it then.
I'm am so PSYCHED for the next ones! I wasn't a Teen Titans comic fan...I was much much more of an avid Young Justice reader. I was excited when I found out about this crossover....only to buy it and regret it immediately after. I literally made a mental list of things I could have bought instead of it. I cannot wait to see your take on it.
as someone who is from St louis, I noticed the Busch stadium in that panel was under construction. at the time this comic came out, that ballpark would've been completed for over a decade
You know I just realized something about the DC and Marvel Universes. In the DC universe every superhero (or at least every big named superhero) has their own city where they fight crime in. Batman Gotham, The Flash Central City, Superman Metropolis. And another thing about they have in common is that, with the exception of Metropolis, their all fictional. Compare that to the Marvel Universe where all the big shot superheroes are all station in New York City. Fantastic Four, Avengers, Spider-Man. And to top it all off I don't think New York City is ever mention in the DC Universe. At least from the comics I've read.
12:50 that joke just only gets funnier because in 2018 in West Virginia it rained in my home town more than snowing oh it rained around 6 times yeah global warming isn't real my ass also ill be updating this comment every year if I remember to tell everyone any more weird weather stuff like that and be free to share any time weird weather stuff has ever happened to you
Normandy and Britain? Seriously, not Stalingrad and Kursk? I would say those two places were far more historically important than D-Day and the Battle for Britain.
What's your beef with JLA/Avengers? *SPOILERS FOR THOSE THAT DID NOT READ IT!* I thought it was pretty good, the heroes acting irrationally made sense given the device centered around their confrontations was based on their ability to take the most powerful macguffins of the opposing universe, so everyone being more on edge and quick to act made sense, not to mention that not all the heroes were going for each other's throats, Batman and Cap knew something was wrong, and even teamed up. And the big team up battle on the Galactus fortress with all past incarnations and members of the respective teams was awesome, Thor and Superman tag teaming, Wonder Woman having the chance to battle alongside her mother against Surtur, Supes weidling Cap's Shield and Mjolnir to break down Kronas' fortress. I know with how much you hate Cry for Justice, you would get a kick out of Cap pummeling Prometheus like nobody's business. Hell, the opposing philosophies that drive the Avengers and the Justice League almost literally go head-to-head. With Supes seeing the Avengers as ineffectual and almost neglectful (the Avengers trying not to meddle with the lives of citizens) while Cap sees the Justice League as just another Squadron Supreme (with how much more involved the JL is in their world), ready to take over another Earth. It was actually the book that got me into reading comics.
I think the biggest problem was they threw too much in.....They could have just done a book with the biggest of the big instead it threw in everyone from D-man to Aztek ...like the artist was paid by the character
Well, they DID have George Perez in charge of art. I’m also willing to let JLA/Avengers get away with that since it’s the last crossover Marvel and DC have had and it’s almost 20 years old
My library had this when I was a kid. I recall enjoying it back then. Another crossover I recall was good was a Captain America/The Bat-Man crossover from about 20 years ago. The Joker and Red Skull are after the Gotham Project, and Captain America needs the help of Gotham's resident vigilante to save the Allied War Effort.
Eamonn Deane I generally do like Simonsen's work. It isn't the *best* I've seen, but it is a good constant quality. I'd say George Perez really sets the bar (Crisis on Infinite Earths).
I misunderstood Normandy Invasion as Norman Invasion and thought you were talking about the battle of Hastings rather than D-Day. Was thinking "how's an event from almost a thousand years ago getting snubbed for battle of the century?"
In the DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC crossover from the 90s they explain that the DC & Marvel universes occasionally merge slightly, explaining away these kinds of crossovers while the ones where they cross dimensions is a different backstory. I wonder who owns Access now?
I love the fights when Superman actually has to check himself. It not only makes him feel more powerful, it makes him feel like a better person.
This superman reminds me of the superman, justice league and justice league unlimited animated series, it was always my favorite how his character was more careful with his strength.
So well written, not as all like the one in the movies
@@littlebitsofterror5788 Anyone who thinks Superman can't be cool, just look up "Superman world of cardboard." Superman is freaking awesome in that moment.
The image of Luthor riding piggyback on Dr. Octopus was so memorable that it got worked into, of all things, Avengers Forever in a sequence about alternate universes. That's a book that doesn't even feature Spider-Man but Kurt Busiek couldn't resist having Carlos Pacheco draw them in.
17:00 I kind of imagined them meeting in jail like this:
Dr. Octopus: So what they get you for?
Lex Luther: Giant robot, try to steal something, foiled by superhero.
Dr. Octopus: *scoffs* Same.
Lex: Superheroes am I right?!
Doc Oc: Tell me about it.
Why do I hear Doc Ock with the Monarch's voice
“Heroes are so annoying.”
Sure, the African warriors could have been cut, but the joke about Superman's cultural insensitivity was pretty funny.
I believe the writers put that subplot in just so people could make fun of it on the internet.
Yes, as a matter of fact, in 1976, Gerry Conway was heard having this conversation with Dc's and Marvel's editors.
"Listen, I know the segmentwith the African tribes doesn't relly contribute to anything, but hear me out: imagine, for a second, in less than a couple of decades, computers all being linked together in a sort of interconected system that spans around multiple countries, a "World Wide Web", if you will.
If such a thing happened, I'm sure that this joke about Superman being culturally insensitive will be the thing we need to secure this books success as a classic!
Also, do you think you can reconsider your decision about cutting the two dick jokes during Sup and Spidey's fight? I really think it adds something to the overarching plot!"
PolarPhantom
...and the internet didn’t even exist yet!
That’s how amazing it was!
@Mark Guerrero
Good point.
@@BlackINKim 😂
Fun fact: Lex luthor stealing 40 cakes is ACTUAL CANNON
comic books are weird
Sketchman911 nigga would you not steal 40 cakes
Sketchman911 Mind you it was because Lex Luthor’s very first crime was stealing cakes from a bake sale in high school because from day one he liked to retaliate against institutions that don’t promote his brilliance, in this case the science fair
...and that’s terrible.
I love how they managed to A.make it canon and B. Do it in a way that actually kind of makes sense
LOIS LANE: Thank you for agreeing to this interview Mr. Luthor.
LEX LUTHOR: My pleasure, Ms. Lane. And please, call me Lex.
LOIS LANE: Ok, why did you steal forty cakes, Lex?
LEX LUTHOR: Allegedly?
LOIS LANE: Allegedly.
LEX LUTHOR: Allegedly, because I could.
LOIS LANE: Allegedly?
LEX LUTHOR: Allegedly.
I love the image of Superman just letting himself be punched until the other guy tires himself out. It's the sort of thing only Superman could or would do.
SUPERMAN... is a great punching bag!
Wait a minute . . .The comic mentions NASA sending its first laboratory up into space, but then later we see the Injustice Gang's orbital headquarters. Forget the USSR nearly winning the Space Race, how depressing is it that SUPERVILLAINS beat NASA at building a Space Station.
Because they are SUPER
Lex Luthor and Gorilla Grodd may be two of the smartest people on the planet, but NASA has WAAAY more brainiacs working for them
@@JaelinBezel Suddenly NASA bottles every city on Earth!
Because DC and Marvel have what’s called a sliding timescale basically it DC and Marvel just refused to let their characters age past 20 or 30. This is the reason why Spider-Man and Robin the first one remain teenagers for so long and only recently allowed them to become adults as they did not want to age up their characters so much in the fear of having them be retired, so anytime DC and Marvel a redo characters origins but several characters from the 1940s such as for DC the justice Society of America and for Marvel the invaders are from the 1940s so when the question is asked of when did Batman and Superman debut and when did the marvel age began depends on the time the origins are being retold in marvel is said that 20 or 15 years have passed since the marvel age began as for DC. It’s been 20 or 30 years. The problem is when you have 60+ years of history it cause problems for marvel since it never had a reboot, a successful one you have to make recon certain things like for example read reacher and Ben Grimm fought in World War II in older tales well characters like Wolverine can get away with this well upper characters cannot so they have to make up new wars like with Iron Man who has to push it to whatever war is happening at the time this is most the reason why comics of the big two is hard to get into you have so much history and backed in the Internet did not exist
Because...Luthor's not risking a teleportation psychosis. He might be evil enough to steal 40 cakes but not evil enough to hurt himself.
SMAXZO 40 CAKES, SPIDERMAN. *40. CAKES.*
@@lucasbell4831 And that's terrible.
Mitch Fletcher
Indeed.
18:40
Doc Ock giving Luther a piggy back ride, I can't that might be the funniest image I've seen in all of comics
Cower in fear my friends, cower in fear.
Imagine if it's later revealed that Captain America #1 was ALSO caused by Dr. Manhattan.
...So can we blame the Naked Blue Wonder for One More Day too?
Well he seems then the Red guy who break the 4thWall will be the key to undo OMD.
I am totally okay with this
I despise Nick Spencer's Captain America #1, but i really like DC Universe Rebirth a lot!
+Jakob Medeiros Rebirth is great
This is the first time DC and Marvel teamed two of their heroes, and it's still my favorite.
well stab wounds are easier to treat than bullet wounds in the marvel universe it seems
Maybe Aunt May's assassin had a Magic Gun...Maybe it was a time traveling, disgruntled, future Linkara THE WHOLE TIME!
AussieDragoon so linkara made one more day happen
magnasupreme deep, man, deep
@@magnasupreme unlikely. It's Joe Quesada who manipulated the events.
They are easier to treat in the real world too... Go figure, a gun blowing a whole through something tearing jagged chunks of flesh out as it goes isn't supes easy to stich up and slap and a bandaid on...
Stab wounds CAN be just as lethal, but assuming we're just talking treating a non fatal wound, then a stab wound is WAY easier to treat than a gunshot wound
"Yes, the greatest superhero team up of all time! ...which is why there is "vs" in the title."
Oh, like Prof. Layton vs. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney.
True!! 😂🤣
Well, yes but that was a greatest crossover in puzzle games
Not comics
@@black97_0 the point still stands
Feels like a big "yesn't"
I cannot deny how awesome this is. Ooh crossover comic in this kind of format: Batman and Wolverine fighting Man-Bat and Sabertooth
Have you heard of DarkClaw?
well yes,
who hasn't heard of DarkClaw?
gRinchY 230490 quite a few people surprisingly
My bad
I completely agree with you that the DCAU "World's Finest" is the best way to pull that off. I loved that movie as a kid and I still do now. They need to get the writers behind that to direct the new DC movies
Eamonn Deane I know you're trying to cheer me up Harley, but you see, anytime I blow a billion dollar deal...IT REALLY KILLS MY APPETITE!!!
@@JinxProductions Well while I think for what it is it has better execution, a few things to remember. First, it's basically an extended episode, and as such it's animation quality is that of cartoons of the time (not they are much better now but still), but what suffer the most is the directing. It's.... kind of basic. The same goes with the writing. It's tight, but it lacks ambition. It's just "two popular superheroes fighting a villain", it lacks any sense of themes and ideas. Now, don't get me wrong: I think Batman V Superman UTTERLY FAILS at executing it's ambition, and despite some impressive shots, the directing also suffer from a lot of issues. I'm not trying to say it's any "good", nor that the TV special was bad, I'm just saying that comparing the two seems....... Out of place. They clearly do not have the same ambitions, and the most we can say is that one fails while the other succeeds.
Jinx Productions heck’s ya my absolute favorite
Jinx Productions
Yeah, Paul ding does need to write perhaps a Batman and robin movie or something.
@@LaurianeG. I agree. If anything, it's just one way to write great team up story.
funnily enough, the 40 cakes thing is actually cannon
That reminds me of a crossover idea I had, what would WW2 be like with the superheroes of the 40s from Marvel and DC that were around at the time. I was thinking, the first super hero team, Justice Society of America with Captain America, Wonder Woman, Human Torch, Blue Beetle, Namor, The Flash, Wolverine and Green Lantern. First people to have those names by the way.
That's would be awesome to see if it was a actual real-like crossover.
13:55 Fun fact, the Spider-Mobile came back recently thanks to Dan Slott.
Until the deal is undone responsibly, Linkara swore off any of the post-OMD comics.
*Spider-Man* and *Superman* are my 2 favorite superheroes. I need to get this comic book in my collection!
a teacher i had in high school offered me not the comic boom in spanish but the opportunity to read it. i could have enough time. i regret it i know octopus and spiderman get the short end of the stick. but considering his spiderman has been on mainstream media for barely a decade, they could have him rescuing civilians while superman handles the big threats. is not helped the luthor and superman are in their silver age levels of power. still this is a good comic
JazzyZenBrotha
I need it too!
OHMYGOD. My youth house had this comic when i still lived where i grew up in! I never knew it was so valuable!
Honestly, JLA/Avengers is one of my favourite comics ever. It feels so...natural, so well thought out? and I love all of the fights-Especially the climax, the parts with the rosters changing from era to era!
Cecil Palmer
Same here man, same with him.
Superman vs. The Amazing Spider-Man starring Tim Daly as Superman and Christopher Daniel Barnes as Spider-Man.
I'd watch that. If only Superman TAS were on Fox Kids initially...
YES!!!
I'd pick Josh Keaton personally.
@@tylerbertram7065 I would as well but if we're going by their 90s shows, it has to be Barnes and Daly. Personally, I'd like a Batman vs Spider Man movie with Conroy and Keaton as their characters.
@@dnmstarsi that would be pretty awesome.
Wonder what Linkara thinks about the new ongoing Spider-Man book which has Peter and MJ and Mayday all fighting crime with powers.
DC Rebirth is a nice shot in the arm for DC's characters, I really enjoy it.
Renew Your Vows does not confront the problem of OMD; while the kid is NOT Mayday.
Darsi Padilla
Not everything’s perfect.
The first crossover between Superman and Batman is hilarious. Especially how they learn each other's secret identities.
yes it is
We *really* need to see an Atop the Fourth Wall episode on that issue.
"couldn't carry a toothpick..." yet Doc Ock is free to bring along his mechanical arms? Or at least restrain them while he's in the cell?
I think at this point in the comics, his arms were physically connected to his spine
The arms aren't removable, they're fused to his body and they *were* deactivated, so they likely seemed to be plenty restrained to the guards.
22:54, sounds like Mary Jane from Spider-Man 3.
The laser sound thing kinda makes sense when you remember Dazzler exists. It's basically just doing her power in reverse.
There's something adorable about Luthor and Doc Oc palling around
I do think the team up/fight is actually very natural; they're both newsmen who use their investigative jobs to find crimes, and their most famous enemies are mad scientists; it's going to be a very smart thing considering that Spidey is a scientist and Supes is pretty damn smart.
Spiderman: When you use WIS as a dump stat
The end of the fight was brilliant: Spidey's inability to hurt Supes lets him calm down.
Didn't Japanese Spiderman use the spider mobile it was even a part of his giant robot.
31:38
Ah, so that's the origin of the "forty keks" meme
#TeamStank.
I'm looking for a Mr. Tony Stank
+KidSnivy69 rodey: this is Mr. stank *gestures to tony*
0:52 JLA/Avengers is a GOOD STORY, and its cannon.
I don't think he was saying it was.
I remember him saying he enjoyed it in top 15 I'll never review
What the hell, sure :)
KidSnivy69
/watch?v=BHW5X9fjJKQ
Thank You!
17:40 really funny you say that cause this universe dubbed the crossoververse talks about its own version of the clone saga it’s only talked about not seen but it had not only Ben Reily living but Peters Daughter May as well
"Notice how I didn't make any Superior Spider-Man references here"
.......Because that was actually a pretty okay story-line that just had some dumb story bits here and there and the main reason people hated it was because it was in the main Spider-Man books and not some alternate universe Spider-Man or some indie comic with Spider-Man and Doc Ock stand-ins?
No, people hated it because it was awful and tried to present a murderer and rapist in a sympathetic light.
3:47 I do own that Superman/FF crossover, but it wasn't printed in that format in Finland. It also had Hulk vs Superman printed with it.
I like how the warehouse Sups smashes through is owned by the ACME company. It’s like this comic knew DC and Looney Tunes would later be owned by the same people. And before anyone corrects me I did my research. Warner Bros did not own DC in the 70’s.
I want DC and Marvel to do another crossover, hell I'd even write it myself, they need to stop this nonsense where they can't get along, fans and kids alike want another crossover.
Personally, I'd really like to see Gamora and Wonder Woman go on an adventure together.
Re-listening to this after YT started recommending some of your older videos to me. And I gotta say, I did love this crossover in spite of its flaws like having the Marvel characters a bit sidelined on both the hero and villain front. Which does make me sad they don't do these anymore. Heck, I would pay for a "World's finest" style miniseries where you have Spidey and Supes instead of Bats and Sups, with each complimenting each other.
On a second note, spider web is stronger than steel, and I am inclined to believe Peter's is at leas as strong if not stronger than natural spider web so... superman basically made peter webbing's worse. Man, Silver Age supes really was a Nightwing, if you catch my drift.
11:30 It was also Sunday.
I understood that reference.
Ah, that film will never not be glorious to riff.
PolarPhantom Which film? Anvengers 2 or what I said? Because mines from DBZ
***** I thought it was Batman V Superman when I believe atman comments that the harbour is abandoned on Sundays, meaning no civilian casualties.
And it just comes off as silly.
33:03 Never though I'd see Busch Stadium II in a comic.
I keep hearing Weird Al, is Linkara a big fan! 'Cause that would be awesome!
I'd say so. :3
Naw they're in a rivalry
Sidney Meyers what do you mean?
Before the copyright nation attacked, these videos often ended with Weird Al over the Credits. He's a fan :)
31:02 that's a reference to an educational book dc published a wile back in witch lex luthor stole 40 cakes
66 Survivor
....and that’s terrible.
Thanks for this, I bought this comic when it first came out. Parents threw it out with my collection long ago. Loved the big pages. Couldn't find it anywhere till now.
Well, if they just shot Superman with the red sun radiation... yeah, that'd temporarily depower him, but then there wouldn't be someone distracting Spider-Man. Making Spidey able to match blows with Supes for a while keeps them both busy with each other and thus out of the villains' hair. And there's the added bonus of the fight potentially damaging the heroes' cred.
Except that there's no need to distract Spidey because they're both hidden and Spidey has mad on for Superman. My biggest question is, if Luthor has so much red sun radiation at his disposal, why is Superman still such a problem?
GeneralKenobi75
"They're both hidden" doesn't mean that Spidey wouldn't try to FIND them, idiot. They obviously wanted to both distract and bait Spidey because, if you'll recall, the *reason* Spidey has a mad-on for Superman is because of Luthor-disguised-as-Supes seemingly vaporizing Mary Jane!!!
ZeldaTheSwordsman No need to get nasty. Also, Spiderman wouldn't go after them because he doesn't know they're behind it, he's still going after Superman.
11:33 (Doing my best impression of Ocean dub Vegeta) To bad it is Sunday, those buildings would have people in them tomorrow.
Graduation day huh I can't wait to see this one
Same
Graduation day?
***** it was a teen titans/young justice crossover story
Tevya Smolka Let me guess.
It's infamously bad?
***** you will have to wait and see what happens but you are right about it being bad
23:00
You obviously haven't read many of the storylines dealing with MJ's past. Long story short, she's a total gadfly who enjoys getting a rise out of people as a way of hiding her personal pain. She was just kidding around with Lois.
Also... She knows why Peter keeps running out on her.
i dont remember when it turns out she found out peter's identity.especially considering this is 3 years after the 1° step into the end of th silver age of comic books (the night gwen stacy died, the others were Crisis/Secret Wars and the final step Watchmen)
The reveal was around the 1980s in real-life time when Spider-Man fought the Puma.
12:32 - _And thus the Progenitor to the 1960s Spiderman Meme!_
The first trade paperback I bought when I started collecting comics was Marvel/DC Crossover Classics. It contains both Superman/Spider-Man stories, Batman/Hulk, and X-Men/Teen Titans. Still have it, and still a favorite. I enjoyed pretty much all of the crossovers between the big 2, and miss them.
I agree with you, Linkara. I hate it when superheroes spend the whole time fighting each other rather than the villains. Particularly Batman and Superman fighting because they have "different ideologues" when that is strait crap. They have different (methods), yes but they have the exact same ideology. A symbol to strike fear in to the wicked and inspire hope in the good and innocent. Just because they go about it in different ways, Bats though the shadows and Supes in the light if day, doesn't mean that their end goals are any different and I am sick of bad writers and dumbass fanboys thinking that it does.
I don't think Superman aims at striking fear, most of the time he gives speech about the villains being better than they are and rethink their life while Batman simply break bones, and knowing that a guy dressed as a bat punch criminals at night isn't really inspiring hope.
They might respect each other but with all the kryptonite traps and superbots army in the fortress of solitude they will have conflict between the two
+alucardyoici Well superman does strike fear because he's unstoppable.
Batman can't engage people with guns as easily as supes can so he has to knock them out and that means breaking bones in the process in some cases
+alucardyoici That and Gotham is different that Metropolis. Gotham is that bad part of the neighborhood you have to stay out. So batman helps by being ruthless.
If anything I like that phrase from the Noland movies. Batman is the hero that Gotham needs as it needs someone to clean up crim ans act better than the police bit it's not the one it deserves as batman's methods can be a bit harsh
Zxzero36 yes Batman needing to break bones because he is weak kind of stopped making sense when he made a battle armor that can spar with superman. And if if being unstoppable was all it took to strike fear every heroes including batman would scare criminals after the third time they beat darkseid
***** Oh yeah cause batman is impervious to bullets and can just whisk the villains away with out harm can he? Its allways better to make sure your opponents cant fight back.
Thats why beanbag guns are used sometimes they also can break bones mostly ribs. Tear gas is horrible but it gets the job done with out loss of life.
Power armor is bulky and is an easy target. Batman works in the shadows.Remember the hell-bat armor can kill him which is why he doesn't use it.
Not everyone in comics is smart you know
31:50 Superman traveling through space is nothing new. I don't know why you're surprised by it now.
Reminds me of the Kamen Rider Crossover Movies, two side stories that come together for one final story at the end. Good Stuff.
18:05 Andrew mentions this on an episode of Buffy. Now I finally know what he was talking about.
Now I want to see a Godzilla Vs Bambi crossover comic.
There is an animated short film of that that actually exists
Wait, isn't Spiderman's webbing already as strong as steel? You know, cause it's web?
That's what I said.
Wow, a good team up crossover!??! No impossible, does not compute, must have sucky fight scenes and no since of intelligence!!!!!
I wonder which version of the titans is in this crossover?
Plenty of team up crossover are good.
Andrew Bull I am not really a fan of this cross over team up, I feel that Supes pulled all the weight while Spidey was just there to occasionally shoot webs.
Crazy level over 9,000
I advise you read Batman/Captain America if you wish to see a more "balanced" duo. (plus it features fighting nazis so that's a qualifier too.)
Well now I want to see a Review of New Teen Titans/Uncanny X-Men
I want him to do a review of Superman vs. Muhammad Ali.
+Arcwhiteflame Are you only saying that because of Ali's death?
Yes and no, I was reading up about Superhero crossovers with real life people when I heard the news of his death, I had already known of the crossover so I naturally decided to learn more about the crossover and it sounds glorious in a way that Linkara would enjoy.
In the 1980s, president Ronald Regan made an appearance in an issue of Booster Gold (I think that I still have a copy).
The Booster Gold issues with Ronald Regan are in the DC showcase presents Booster Gold vol one, which just so happens to be the first comic book I ever bought because of Linkara.
“So basically Peter tells Jameson to blow it out his ass...” That had me killed!🤣
Jimmy Olsen in 1976 was a junior reporter, he wasn't a photographer, and had been since 1940. This is probably due to one thing, Superman: the Movie! Jimmy Olsen was introduced to a very large non comic reading audience and his career was staff photographer. One would think that this change would influence the comics somehow, being that it seems to be the thing, to do these days to make the comics more movie like, with the comics these days constantly revamping the looks and attitudes to better match their on screen counterparts. This didn't happen here, from 1978 and on, Jimmy was a reporter for the Galaxy network and while occasionally grabbing a camera and snapping photos, it would take 15 or so years and one comic reboot for this to become his most remembered and closely associated career. It wasn't until 1991, when Jimmy fired from the Daily Planet due to budget cuts, and living out of his car, found a camera, and took pictures of a battle occurring, that Jimmy found his calling, a photographer.
17:35 on this point who is the ruler of Atlantis in this continuity Aquaman or Namor
I KNOW WHAT CIVIL WAR 3 WILL BE ABOUT!
But joking aside, this is the silver age (i think) and there were like three different versions of Atlantis in DC alone back then.
Or Attuma...or Ocean Master lol
"40 cakes, Spider-Man! FOURTY CAKES!"
16:49 Best joke in the episode.
1:28 Absolutely agree with you there, Linkara.
32:40 What, did you already use the "Don't you know anything about science?" clip?
Hey I read this at the library back when I was a kid. It was in a giant trade, collection of DC and Marvel Crossovers; that also has the X men team up with the New Teen Titans, and Hulk vs Batman.
Here's a tiny side-note regarding this Comics title in other countrys: They actually renamed Spider-Man in Germany for this comic. Yes. Just for this one comic he got renamed. Just look up "Super-Man VS Super-Spider". Again, yes, I'm not kidding. Sadly there are no official informations why this change was made, but if I would have to guess I think that the German editorial maybe had a similiar problem with Spideys adjectives and then decided to even it out in some way.
Still very weird, esspecially when you consider that Spideys name was already changed up to beginn with in Germany. Nearly ever published Marvel Hero got a translated name for the German speaking market.
For example, Spider-Man was changed to "Die Spinne" (Which translates back just to "The Spider") and Iron-man was known as "Der Eiserne" ("The Iron-One") until the mid-90s.
"Superman is a d*ck"
That is the best part.
19:03 I’m surprised you didn’t go for the Teen Titans playing Yu-Gi-Oh!.
31:37 the origin of 40 keks.
29:10 Yeah, Spidey used to web up a bunch of objects like that in the Silver Age. I'm not sure at what point they realized "You know? Maybe that's too cheesy."
Wait... They already incorporated emotive eyes into the new movies... You don't think... I kind of hope not.
I would like to see a Dragon Ball Z/Superman crossover where Supes and Goku work together from the start and the question of them fighting each other never even comes up.
Hell, pretty sure Goku would know that Supes is a good guy from the get go..though he would point out that he looked like that weird guy from Penguin Village..also, what's your poison? Mxy combining Darkseid with Majin Buu? Frieza with Mongul...or Cell with Doomsday? So that Goku and Superman would do the fusion dance?
I would LOVE to see an anime special where Goku and Supes do the fusion dance. SSB Kryptonian would be awesome to see as well.
+SMAXZO why not all three?
I hope this happen, not only because I love crossover and the two franchise.
But aslo for SHUT FUCK UPING this assholle who want to know who is stronger.
I could picture the crossover starting off on a very bad start. Superman friends & Goku's friends are scattered across a battlefield. Some are dying or severely injured, Superman & Goku are fighting a new villain. Who is this villain? I can't think of a name, but the new villain is more than a match for Superman & Goku. Goku & Superman look at each other & (without uttering a word) wonder if this will be the one fight they wont win. After a series of events, Superman & Goku triumph. With senzu beans & Dende's help, everybody is healed.
Goku: Before me & my friends return home, I would like to say that its been an honor to fight along side you.
Superman: Likewise.
Goku: Though we come from different worlds, let us part as brothers.
Superman: I agree.
Superman & Goku shake hands & the credits roll.
Maybe it's my Marvel - bias talking, but I feel that the story isn't very good once you get past the novelty of Superman and Spider-Man meeting. After his fight with Superman, you could digitally erase Spidey from every panel and the story would be more or less the same. All the obstacles and problems the duo faces are solved by Superman, while Spidey just stands there and drools over how awesome Superman is. The scene with the computer even completely ignores both spider-sense and the fact that Spidey is super-genius. What is even the point of making the story a crossover, if one of the heroes is going to be completely useless?
Also, a fun fact. In the Finnish translation of this comic, Clark Kent's workplace was changed to Daily Planet and his boss to Perry White.
Eh I still like the interactions. It might not be the best or even good, but still a fun way to waste time.
because spiderman is no match for superman,yup ur bias
I had this as a kid and found it in a 4 for a dollar box. That and Superman vs Muhammad Ali were over sized.
I'd like to believe that Universe 616 is where all the original comic book universes (& other franchises) exist: the original DC & Marvel Comics, the Mirage Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles comics (it's implied the same accident that turned Matt Murdok into Daredevil also created the TMNY) Generation 1 of Transformers & GIJoe & the Spawn comics (because Marvel now owns the rights to the Spawn character Angela) & possibly others (Spawn appeared in Soul Calibur 2, the Soul/Tekken series crossover with Star Wars, God of War, Nier, the Witcher, Assassin's Creed & the Nintendo verse)
8:10 because Gotham is over there and over there has it's own problems to take care off
Interestingly that massive book you were talking about was given to me as a christmas gift back in the late 80s too bad I didn't take good care of it then.
I was wondering when you were going to discuss the vs. comics thanks man ,keep up the good work!
I'm am so PSYCHED for the next ones! I wasn't a Teen Titans comic fan...I was much much more of an avid Young Justice reader. I was excited when I found out about this crossover....only to buy it and regret it immediately after. I literally made a mental list of things I could have bought instead of it.
I cannot wait to see your take on it.
Ayy rewatching some content of yours i missed and remembered i had sent you that Superman/ f4 comic so cool to see it
Finally it's UP. I thought I was gonna loose my mind waiting for it.
1:22 The reason the movie seemed to have Batman and Superman team up after the fight was apparently that their mothers had the same name of Martha.
The Red Skull's mother was also named Martha. I wonder if Batman would team-up with him?
Wright805 wait, isn't the Red Skull German? Last time I checked, "Martha" isn't a very common name in Germany
In comics they friend each other because his capes thats comicbook cheese
This is a good crossover, but I think the second one with Doom and Parasite as villains is better. Spider-Man has more things to do in that one.
Kissamies
I disagree, but I get why you’d like it.
as someone who is from St louis, I noticed the Busch stadium in that panel was under construction. at the time this comic came out, that ballpark would've been completed for over a decade
Oh, yeah, they mention Spider-Man's vehicle very, very briefly in the recent Spider-Man/Deadpool comics.
16:40 Then why does Dr. octopus still have his arms?
God I love the 70's!
You know I just realized something about the DC and Marvel Universes. In the DC universe every superhero (or at least every big named superhero) has their own city where they fight crime in. Batman Gotham, The Flash Central City, Superman Metropolis. And another thing about they have in common is that, with the exception of Metropolis, their all fictional. Compare that to the Marvel Universe where all the big shot superheroes are all station in New York City. Fantastic Four, Avengers, Spider-Man. And to top it all off I don't think New York City is ever mention in the DC Universe. At least from the comics I've read.
ThatGuyWithTheTripod New 52 cat woman. Went to New York. The teen titans might have too
12:50 that joke just only gets funnier because in 2018 in West Virginia it rained in my home town more than snowing oh it rained around 6 times yeah global warming isn't real my ass also ill be updating this comment every year if I remember to tell everyone any more weird weather stuff like that and be free to share any time weird weather stuff has ever happened to you
12:18 Just be hopeful they don't force him off.
Yeah remember when supergirl and flash met in cw
Normandy and Britain? Seriously, not Stalingrad and Kursk? I would say those two places were far more historically important than D-Day and the Battle for Britain.
What's your beef with JLA/Avengers?
*SPOILERS FOR THOSE THAT DID NOT READ IT!*
I thought it was pretty good, the heroes acting irrationally made sense given the device centered around their confrontations was based on their ability to take the most powerful macguffins of the opposing universe, so everyone being more on edge and quick to act made sense, not to mention that not all the heroes were going for each other's throats, Batman and Cap knew something was wrong, and even teamed up. And the big team up battle on the Galactus fortress with all past incarnations and members of the respective teams was awesome, Thor and Superman tag teaming, Wonder Woman having the chance to battle alongside her mother against Surtur, Supes weidling Cap's Shield and Mjolnir to break down Kronas' fortress. I know with how much you hate Cry for Justice, you would get a kick out of Cap pummeling Prometheus like nobody's business. Hell, the opposing philosophies that drive the Avengers and the Justice League almost literally go head-to-head. With Supes seeing the Avengers as ineffectual and almost neglectful (the Avengers trying not to meddle with the lives of citizens) while Cap sees the Justice League as just another Squadron Supreme (with how much more involved the JL is in their world), ready to take over another Earth. It was actually the book that got me into reading comics.
From what I remember from Top 15 comic I'll never review, I think he likes the story
+KidSnivy96 Actually, that was DC vs. Marvel.
I think the biggest problem was they threw too much in.....They could have just done a book with the biggest of the big instead it threw in everyone from D-man to Aztek ...like the artist was paid by the character
Well, they DID have George Perez in charge of art. I’m also willing to let JLA/Avengers get away with that since it’s the last crossover Marvel and DC have had and it’s almost 20 years old
20:07 It took five minutes, but I _finally_ got the joke.
My library had this when I was a kid. I recall enjoying it back then.
Another crossover I recall was good was a Captain America/The Bat-Man crossover from about 20 years ago. The Joker and Red Skull are after the Gotham Project, and Captain America needs the help of Gotham's resident vigilante to save the Allied War Effort.
Eamonn Deane
No, how is it?
Eamonn Deane
I generally do like Simonsen's work. It isn't the *best* I've seen, but it is a good constant quality. I'd say George Perez really sets the bar (Crisis on Infinite Earths).
“Team-up” is written on the cover before “vs“ is. They didn’t keep pretenses for long, lol.
I misunderstood Normandy Invasion as Norman Invasion and thought you were talking about the battle of Hastings rather than D-Day. Was thinking "how's an event from almost a thousand years ago getting snubbed for battle of the century?"
I own that Superman Fantastic Four issue. I didn't know it was call treasury format and never saw of issues like it. I learned something today.
In relation to 29:11, I present to you Spider-man making a boat:
th-cam.com/video/S9uP1n6ERkA/w-d-xo.html
'Laughing out loud! XD That was unbelievable.
Cheshire Kat Spider-man is basically a Green Lantern but with webbing instead of light constructs.
HelicopterOctopus
In brightest day, in blackest night, let those who follow the Bugle's blight, dread my puns, Spiderman's web!
"I made a boat out of webs! .... 'Cause that's how stuff works!"
~ TDG
In the DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC crossover from the 90s they explain that the DC & Marvel universes occasionally merge slightly, explaining away these kinds of crossovers while the ones where they cross dimensions is a different backstory. I wonder who owns Access now?
The buildings being empty reminded me of that one DBZ dub.
"Too bad it's sunday, those buildings would have been filled tomorrow."