@@Dugiesrevenge I don't know about fantastically educated. I'm educated enough to know how little I know. The more I learn, the more there is to learn. Having good teachers around is important, given these conditions.
@@meraaleta3750 I wasn’t being sarcastic, if you’ve been reading or learning from Noam Chomsky for half your life you are very well educated👍🏼 I find him to be a complete hero, in the words of the dark Knight “he might not be the hero we deserve but he’s the hero we need”
@@Dugiesrevenge I didn't get sarcasm from your response. My apologies if my response stung at all. It was not meant to. It's always good to hear that there are other people "out there" who "get it". I must admit that I don't often meet those who tuned into Chomsky or other great thinkers, though I know they exist. Thank you for your thoughts: they are appreciated.
@@meraaleta3750 no offence taken or meant… I just think he’s a voice of our time, Imagine hearing Plato or Aristotle in their time… ? He is frightening intelligent but a true human…. Just someone you wish the world would listen to and I would aspire to be more like. We need people like him in the world👍🏼 peace ☮️
Well, believe it or not, Bryan Magee, the guy interviewing Chomsky in this video, is actually younger than Chomsky. Chomsky is almost 50 here, and I swear he doesn't look a day older than 35.
Bertrand Russell < Noam < the rest of us bums. Actually that’s not fair, but I will say Noam has a Bertrand Russell poster in his office, or did in Manufacturing Consent doc. I hear a lot of BR in Noam. He clearly influenced him a lot. They’re both insanely intelligent. (Well BR when he was alive).
Liberalism can essentially take two forms: one where the state essentially serves no purpose other than to solve domestic disputes and deter potential attackers and one where the only function it takes in peoples lives is to ensure their survival and a level of relative comfort. Neoliberalism is neither of these things.
Absolutely wonderful, and right on point, as usual. Thankfully, the interviewer lets him talk. For the interviewers that don't, Chomsky presents the dangerous query, "Do the facts matter?", which is prelude to a devastating avalanche of facts that follow. He is brilliant, never merely clever, refusing to cede ground as part of a more elaborate maneuver. Always he frames the issue properly from the start, then plows the mountain of relevant fact straight ahead to its logical conclusion.
How to Enslave Humanity History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and it's issuance. James Madison founding father 4th US president. ajitvadakayil.blogspot.com/2012/05/black-african-slave-trade-and-jews-capt.html?m=1 "When plunder(Loot) becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it. " th-cam.com/video/1TPuBmuYa18/w-d-xo.html ".when the plunder is abetted by the law it does not fear your courts, your gendarmes [police], and your prisons. Rather, it may call upon them for help." Frédéric Bastiat video link .... th-cam.com/video/g1glR0LRT-M/w-d-xo.html There are invisible rulers who control the destinies of millions. It is not generally realized to what extent the words and actions of our most influential public men are dictated by shrewd persons operating behind the scenes. We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. Whatever of social importance is done today, whether in politics, finance, manufacture, agriculture, charity, education, or other fields, must be done with the help of propaganda. th-cam.com/video/Y9TviIuXPSE/w-d-xo.html How evil people controll our Education system .... "In our dream...the people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hand..We shall not try to make these people or any of their children into philosophers or men of learning or of science. We are not to raise up from among them authors, orators, poets, or men of letters. We shall not search for embryo great artists, painters, musicians. Nor will we cherish even the humbler ambition to raise up from among them lawyers, doctors, preachers, politicians, statesmen, of whom we now have ample supply..For the task that we set before ourselves is a very simple as well as a very beautiful one: to train these people as we find them for a perfectly ideal life just where they are..an idyllic life under the skies and within the horizon, however narrow, where they first open their eyes." (The Country School of Tomorrow, Frederick Taylor Gates) th-cam.com/video/kyWFpsAnVuI/w-d-xo.html Divide and Conquer----- The rich ruling class has used tribalism, a primitive caveman instinct, to their advantage since the beginning of time. They use it to divide and conquer us. They drive wedges between us peasants and make us fight each other, so we won’t rise up against our rulers and fight them. You can observe the same old trick everywhere in America today: Red states and blue states are fighting. Christians and Muslims are fighting. Men and women are fighting. Baby Boomers and Millennials are fighting. Black people and white people are fighting. That doesn’t just happen all by itself. There are always voices instigating these fights. Oliver Markus Malloy ENTERTAINMENT OUR MOVIES, MUSIC, AND MAGAZINES ARE FILLED WITH NEGATIVITY, DESTRUCTION, AND IGNORANCE EDUCATION OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE WEAPONS OF MISEDUCATION, AND HIGHE EDUCATION ECONOMICS WE ARE FORCED IN A SYSTEM OF LOW PAYING JOBS. AND DEPENDENCE ON THE GOVERNMENT SEX SEX HAS BEEN USEDAS A WEAPON OF MASS DISTRACTION LABOR OUR COMMUNITY SUFFERS FROM THE HIGHEST UNEMPLOYMENT RATES, AND WE ARE THE LOWEST PAID. LAW WE MUST KNOW HOW THE JUDICIAL, LEGISLATIVE, LOCAL, STATE, AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WORK AGAINST US. WAR WE ARE BEING KILLED IN THE STREETS BY EACH OTHER. AND BY POLICE POLITICS WE NEED ELECTED LEADERS THAT WILL STAND UP FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY INSTEAD OF SELLING THE COMMUNITY OUT RELIGION Religion is political cult to controll masses. WE MUST UNDERSTAND AND KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT CHRISTIANITY, ISLAM, AND OTHER BELIEVE SYSTEMS USED FOR MONOPOLIES POWER . Distorted History Fake history is weapon of evil society, even they hijack all world history to hide there crime over humanity and with fraud history humans blame over each other and quarrel . They thought they could control the media, the historians and peer reviewed magazines and control everything , right? Wrong ! "The secret of freedom lies in educating people, whereas the secret of tyranny is in keeping them ignorant." Maximilien Robespierre
Very simple but powerful distinction here: one has to differentiate the LOGIC of a reasoning (what Chomsky calls the "reasons" in this video) and the MEANS to achieve a vision (i.e. the decrease of state power in this case). The logic should always prevail in order to make meaningful comparisons between past and present. Chomsky nails it, "liberals" today are not classical liberals at all... they're just reformists of the weakest kind, advocating for a minimal welfare state. Conservatives are actually just walking contradictions: one the one hand they are the ultimate capitalist defenders (state capitalism included, see the subprime crisis & the joyfully accepted handouts) while ALSO BEING reactionary from a social perspective. That doesn't make any sense, because capitalism is by nature a destructor of culture and traditions. You can't at the same time advocate for child labor (hundreds of thousands of children worked in the "golden era" of booming capitalism) while also being keen on family values. That's just an example among many... we could almost pick every sphere of socialisation defended by the conservatives and see what are the effects of capitalism on it. In a word: utter destruction.
Fascinating perspective. I have actually heard many regard classical liberalism as right of center. With the biggest example of this being Dave Rubin. Also, I don't quite see how capitalism dismantles traditions/family values in your example. To me they both sound authoritarian
@@campfiresong The fact that they are both authoritarian doesn't mean there is no contradiction. Two authorities can be clashing against each other... as they are in this case.
@@campfiresong Well, you're the one focusing on authoritarianism. My original comment was unrelated to it. I just pointed out, for the sake of argument, that different "authorities", modes or structures of authority can be opposed one to another. In this case, capitalism destroying most social structures and forms of socialization is just too obvious I don't even see a point in making an argument for it. At this point, it has just become a fact, and something that everyone agrees upon. When Karl Marx and especially Engels wrote about this more than a century ago, it may not have been so clear to all at the time. But in 2020, at the era of the society of spectacle, in which the very notion of marriage is challenged, the divorce rates are exploding, the family values are abandoned, education is either in the hands of the state or inexistent, and the list goes on and on... capitalism just seems to have made the very notion of family antiquated. You can have a go at this from any point of view: sociological, historical, moral, etc...
@@PappyMandarine Well I guess my question is what does the definition of marriage changing, family values being abandoned, divorce rates skyrocketing, etc have to do with capitalism?
Classical liberals and conservatives all rolled over in 3 minutes and 50 seconds with multiple compelling reasons - also, a reclaiming of Humboldt for the Libertarian Socialist cause. How many tears can this man make in less than 4 minutes?
I had the exact same issue with The Limits of State Action. I felt that as Humboldt talked about the negatives of positive welfare of the citizen he knew not of the capitalist world we would end up living in and didn't realize this welfare was the only way of distributing that power. I absolutely agree with his perception for the role of the state but only after the dismantling of capitalism and the liberation of the proletariat.
"state intervention is authoritarian" but it's a spectrum. The work by Bob Alteymeter on authoritarian personality identifies upbrining as informing ones orientation. States themselves can be anti-authoritatian in many avenues of "interventions".
Incredible discussion. Highly reminds me of a point Luxemburg where she said that the socialist movement is the only way for democracy to truly survive, because the "liberal" government will undermine its own democratic ideals to protect the interests of Capital.
So far socialism as always led to tyranny. How delusional are you exactly? True liberalism is center-left liberalism and is the only ideology that never produced a dictatorship
The meaning of Liberalism as been twisted to mean “the rights of the individual over all else” (usually the wealthiest individuals/families/corporations in society)
Well, yes. But wich path should i choose? Life sounds like a pool full of nothing draging a drunk man whose doesn't know there was no water at all. Wich path should i choose? As we take a choise we refuse the whole world of possibilities. How does it cost to be a man full of all with no meaning at all. I decided : for now on i chosse to ignore. Cof. No man has the right to chose.
That's, compliacted bc people have the means actually to start own new business, if there is ever a time where that should not be true then yes capitalism can no longer be a tool for freedom, because the power difrernciation is simply to huge to enshure individual rights by it, I think
I don't think that's there yet and I don't think i'll necesserily ever come. It's not there yet means there's still ample things to be improved left and it itself looks fine, not as fine as it should be, but not like such a situation of crisis as proposed. I don't think it should be chnaged for light reasons because it is established to be a firm fundation for enabeling people to be free, prosperus etc
@@UnBesoDeCristal i always find it funny when relativists talk like they know an objective truth, like your opinion is a fact, they never say how they arrived at the conclusion, again, just opinionated idiots presumptuous enough to think their opinions are facts, Noam Chomsky is an idiot, you just feel represented, disagree? Prove me wrong.
Steven Glansburg Socialism is worker control over production. It does not necessarily lead to what you think is communism, because there need not be state power.
Socialism and communism are the same thing, workers social or common ownership of the means of production. Marx, for example, used the two terms interchangeably. Don't be fooled by what authoritarians call themselves, it's what they do that defines them. Russia, for example, was no more communist than East Germany was a democracy. "Communism aims at a society where classes have been abolished as a result of common ownership of the means of production and distribution. It teaches that only in a classless, solidaric commonwealth can man enjoy liberty, peace and well-being." Emma Goldman, Russian Anarchist "As a matter of fact, there is no Communism in the U.S.S.R. Not a single Communist principle, not a single item of its teaching is being applied by the Communist party there." Emma Goldman, Russian Anarchist "Indeed, in my opinion, nothing has contributed so much to the corruption of the original idea of Socialism as the belief that Russia is a Socialist country and that every act of its rulers must be excused, if not imitated. And so for the past ten years I have been convinced that the destruction of the Soviet myth was essential if we wanted a revival of the Socialist movement." George Orwell “Anarchism is really a synonym for socialism. The anarchist is primarily a socialist whose aim is to abolish the exploitation of man by man” Daniel Guerin "The movement was “divided into two factions; the communistic anarchists and the Proudhon or middle-class anarchists.” - The Autobiographies of the Haymarket Martyrs, p. 81 “If the left is understood to include ‘Bolshevism,’ then I would flatly dissociate myself from the left. Lenin was one of the greatest enemies of socialism.” [Marxism, Anarchism, and Alternative Futures, p. 779]
@Chris Carlone what he or she can pitch in. Every single individual should to be treated with dignity and respect. But not everyone give the same thing of same amount to society.
@Chris Carlone things that require labor. I am not up for rent seeking, nor hoarding by one class. You can share amd give to those who cannot fend for themselves. And teach a man to fish, etc. But individuals also need to give something back when possible. No one is entitled to the fruits of your labor just because they exist. Something has to be exchanged.
He is so clear in his explanations and critiques. He has been my teacher on so many topics for half my life now.
You must be fantastically educated then… he is a true person of the world, a humanist who we all should aspire to be✅
@@Dugiesrevenge I don't know about fantastically educated. I'm educated enough to know how little I know. The more I learn, the more there is to learn. Having good teachers around is important, given these conditions.
@@meraaleta3750 I wasn’t being sarcastic, if you’ve been reading or learning from Noam Chomsky for half your life you are very well educated👍🏼
I find him to be a complete hero, in the words of the dark Knight “he might not be the hero we deserve but he’s the hero we need”
@@Dugiesrevenge I didn't get sarcasm from your response. My apologies if my response stung at all. It was not meant to. It's always good to hear that there are other people "out there" who "get it". I must admit that I don't often meet those who tuned into Chomsky or other great thinkers, though I know they exist. Thank you for your thoughts: they are appreciated.
@@meraaleta3750 no offence taken or meant… I just think he’s a voice of our time, Imagine hearing Plato or Aristotle in their time… ?
He is frightening intelligent but a true human…. Just someone you wish the world would listen to and I would aspire to be more like. We need people like him in the world👍🏼 peace ☮️
Noam Chomsky is a brilliant man.
It's amazing to see him talking with an older man than him.
He got the brown hair then while today, it is him who is the older man
absolutely
Me, too.
Well, believe it or not, Bryan Magee, the guy interviewing Chomsky in this video, is actually younger than Chomsky. Chomsky is almost 50 here, and I swear he doesn't look a day older than 35.
Bertrand Russell < Noam < the rest of us bums. Actually that’s not fair, but I will say Noam has a Bertrand Russell poster in his office, or did in Manufacturing Consent doc. I hear a lot of BR in Noam. He clearly influenced him a lot. They’re both insanely intelligent. (Well BR when he was alive).
Liberalism can essentially take two forms: one where the state essentially serves no purpose other than to solve domestic disputes and deter potential attackers and one where the only function it takes in peoples lives is to ensure their survival and a level of relative comfort. Neoliberalism is neither of these things.
he looks kind of like noam chomsky
johnpleung
Well its not the garden noam thats woody allen
that's his son Noam dressed like it's the 80s
This guy was way before Noam's time and doesn't get the credit he deserves ...shame on Noam tbf.
nonsense this man is clearly Johnny Appleseed.
What does he act in?
Absolutely wonderful, and right on point, as usual. Thankfully, the interviewer lets him talk. For the interviewers that don't, Chomsky presents the dangerous query, "Do the facts matter?", which is prelude to a devastating avalanche of facts that follow. He is brilliant, never merely clever, refusing to cede ground as part of a more elaborate maneuver. Always he frames the issue properly from the start, then plows the mountain of relevant fact straight ahead to its logical conclusion.
How to Enslave Humanity
History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and it's issuance.
James Madison
founding father 4th US president.
ajitvadakayil.blogspot.com/2012/05/black-african-slave-trade-and-jews-capt.html?m=1
"When plunder(Loot) becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it. "
th-cam.com/video/1TPuBmuYa18/w-d-xo.html
".when the plunder is abetted by the law it does not fear
your courts, your gendarmes [police], and your prisons.
Rather, it may call upon them for help."
Frédéric Bastiat
video link ....
th-cam.com/video/g1glR0LRT-M/w-d-xo.html
There are invisible rulers who control the destinies of millions. It is not generally realized to what extent the words and actions of our most influential public men are dictated by shrewd persons operating behind the scenes.
We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of.
Whatever of social importance is done today, whether in politics, finance, manufacture, agriculture, charity, education, or other fields, must be done with the help of propaganda.
th-cam.com/video/Y9TviIuXPSE/w-d-xo.html
How evil people controll our Education system ....
"In our dream...the people yield themselves with perfect docility to our
molding hand..We shall not try to make these people or any of their
children into philosophers or men of learning or of science. We are not
to raise up from among them authors, orators, poets, or men of letters.
We shall not search for embryo great artists, painters, musicians. Nor will
we cherish even the humbler ambition to raise up from among them
lawyers, doctors, preachers, politicians, statesmen, of whom we now
have ample supply..For the task that we set before ourselves is a very
simple as well as a very beautiful one: to train these people as we find
them for a perfectly ideal life just where they are..an idyllic life under
the skies and within the horizon, however narrow, where they first open
their eyes."
(The Country School of Tomorrow, Frederick Taylor Gates)
th-cam.com/video/kyWFpsAnVuI/w-d-xo.html
Divide and Conquer-----
The rich ruling class has used tribalism, a primitive caveman instinct, to their advantage since the beginning of time. They use it to divide and conquer us. They drive wedges between us peasants and make us fight each other, so we won’t rise up against our rulers and fight them.
You can observe the same old trick everywhere in America today:
Red states and blue states are fighting. Christians and Muslims are fighting. Men and women are fighting. Baby Boomers and Millennials are fighting. Black people and white people are fighting.
That doesn’t just happen all by itself. There are always voices instigating these fights.
Oliver Markus Malloy
ENTERTAINMENT
OUR MOVIES, MUSIC, AND MAGAZINES ARE FILLED WITH NEGATIVITY,
DESTRUCTION, AND IGNORANCE
EDUCATION
OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE WEAPONS OF MISEDUCATION, AND HIGHE
EDUCATION
ECONOMICS
WE ARE FORCED IN A SYSTEM OF LOW PAYING JOBS. AND DEPENDENCE
ON THE GOVERNMENT
SEX
SEX HAS BEEN USEDAS A WEAPON OF MASS DISTRACTION
LABOR
OUR COMMUNITY SUFFERS FROM THE HIGHEST UNEMPLOYMENT RATES,
AND WE ARE THE LOWEST PAID.
LAW
WE MUST KNOW HOW THE JUDICIAL, LEGISLATIVE, LOCAL, STATE, AND
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WORK AGAINST US.
WAR
WE ARE BEING KILLED IN THE STREETS BY EACH OTHER. AND BY POLICE
POLITICS
WE NEED ELECTED LEADERS THAT WILL STAND UP FOR THE BLACK
COMMUNITY INSTEAD OF SELLING THE COMMUNITY OUT
RELIGION
Religion is political cult to controll masses.
WE MUST UNDERSTAND AND KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT CHRISTIANITY, ISLAM, AND
OTHER BELIEVE SYSTEMS
USED FOR MONOPOLIES POWER .
Distorted History
Fake history is weapon of evil society, even they hijack all world history to hide there crime over humanity and with fraud history humans blame over each other and quarrel .
They thought they could control the media, the historians and peer reviewed magazines and control everything , right?
Wrong !
"The secret of freedom lies in educating people, whereas the secret of tyranny is in keeping them ignorant."
Maximilien Robespierre
Excelent interpretation !
well, I guess we now know how Steven Colbert will look like when he's old :p
Very simple but powerful distinction here: one has to differentiate the LOGIC of a reasoning (what Chomsky calls the "reasons" in this video) and the MEANS to achieve a vision (i.e. the decrease of state power in this case). The logic should always prevail in order to make meaningful comparisons between past and present.
Chomsky nails it, "liberals" today are not classical liberals at all... they're just reformists of the weakest kind, advocating for a minimal welfare state. Conservatives are actually just walking contradictions: one the one hand they are the ultimate capitalist defenders (state capitalism included, see the subprime crisis & the joyfully accepted handouts) while ALSO BEING reactionary from a social perspective. That doesn't make any sense, because capitalism is by nature a destructor of culture and traditions. You can't at the same time advocate for child labor (hundreds of thousands of children worked in the "golden era" of booming capitalism) while also being keen on family values. That's just an example among many... we could almost pick every sphere of socialisation defended by the conservatives and see what are the effects of capitalism on it. In a word: utter destruction.
Fascinating perspective. I have actually heard many regard classical liberalism as right of center. With the biggest example of this being Dave Rubin. Also, I don't quite see how capitalism dismantles traditions/family values in your example. To me they both sound authoritarian
@@campfiresong The fact that they are both authoritarian doesn't mean there is no contradiction. Two authorities can be clashing against each other... as they are in this case.
@@PappyMandarine How does economic and social authoritarianism coexisting contradict one another?
@@campfiresong Well, you're the one focusing on authoritarianism. My original comment was unrelated to it. I just pointed out, for the sake of argument, that different "authorities", modes or structures of authority can be opposed one to another.
In this case, capitalism destroying most social structures and forms of socialization is just too obvious I don't even see a point in making an argument for it. At this point, it has just become a fact, and something that everyone agrees upon. When Karl Marx and especially Engels wrote about this more than a century ago, it may not have been so clear to all at the time. But in 2020, at the era of the society of spectacle, in which the very notion of marriage is challenged, the divorce rates are exploding, the family values are abandoned, education is either in the hands of the state or inexistent, and the list goes on and on... capitalism just seems to have made the very notion of family antiquated. You can have a go at this from any point of view: sociological, historical, moral, etc...
@@PappyMandarine Well I guess my question is what does the definition of marriage changing, family values being abandoned, divorce rates skyrocketing, etc have to do with capitalism?
Classical liberals and conservatives all rolled over in 3 minutes and 50 seconds with multiple compelling reasons - also, a reclaiming of Humboldt for the Libertarian Socialist cause. How many tears can this man make in less than 4 minutes?
You can see McGee(?) marvelling at Chomskys virtuoso brain in action.
@Aryan Sharma
Thanks for restating what was already bleedin obvious.
Thanks for your most considered reply.
Chomsky is like a detective. He dissects history, definition, linguistics, as effective and accurate as an open heart operation churgian team.
The TH-cam auto captions / transcript feature do wonderfully here
Noam "and so on" Chomsky
Noam “for example” Chomsky
I had the exact same issue with The Limits of State Action. I felt that as Humboldt talked about the negatives of positive welfare of the citizen he knew not of the capitalist world we would end up living in and didn't realize this welfare was the only way of distributing that power. I absolutely agree with his perception for the role of the state but only after the dismantling of capitalism and the liberation of the proletariat.
The ultimate teacher.
excellent words
Can we get a link to the original full interview?
"state intervention is authoritarian" but it's a spectrum. The work by Bob Alteymeter on authoritarian personality identifies upbrining as informing ones orientation. States themselves can be anti-authoritatian in many avenues of "interventions".
Incredible discussion. Highly reminds me of a point Luxemburg where she said that the socialist movement is the only way for democracy to truly survive, because the "liberal" government will undermine its own democratic ideals to protect the interests of Capital.
So far socialism as always led to tyranny. How delusional are you exactly? True liberalism is center-left liberalism and is the only ideology that never produced a dictatorship
Where can the full talk/interview/lecture be found? Or what's the title of the source video?
context of the reasoning is important
full interview?
The meaning of Liberalism as been twisted to mean “the rights of the individual over all else” (usually the wealthiest individuals/families/corporations in society)
Why should it not be the rights of the individual?
Fielding Mellish paid attention in philosophy 101.
Which author does he mention to had been an inspiration for Mill?
I wonder whether Dave Rubin would have become interesting if he had heard this and understood it. Hmmm....
Rubin isn't capable of understanding this.
What year is this from?
Socialist Party of TH-cam 1977
Nice name.
this is after the daily show and berfore the colbert report. lulz
You've quoted Bakunin on your background but you have *Party* as part of your name. Aww shame...
+rillloudmother I'd say otherwise. Two great guys emerged from better one (if we still have to read jk on the subject ;)
I saw this guy in the movie "Sleeper" - killed a chicken with a large strawberry.
Brainy is the new / old / timeless sexy
Noam "for instance" Chomsky
Under a capitalist state, stock exchange is the church.
the American plato
Well, yes. But wich path should i choose? Life sounds like a pool full of nothing draging a drunk man whose doesn't know there was no water at all.
Wich path should i choose? As we take a choise we refuse the whole world of possibilities. How does it cost to be a man full of all with no meaning at all.
I decided : for now on i chosse to ignore. Cof. No man has the right to chose.
That's, compliacted bc people have the means actually to start own new business, if there is ever a time where that should not be true then yes capitalism can no longer be a tool for freedom, because the power difrernciation is simply to huge to enshure individual rights by it, I think
I don't think that's there yet and I don't think i'll necesserily ever come. It's not there yet means there's still ample things to be improved left and it itself looks fine, not as fine as it should be, but not like such a situation of crisis as proposed. I don't think it should be chnaged for light reasons because it is established to be a firm fundation for enabeling people to be free, prosperus etc
Left, I mean right!
how did america make the jump from classical liberalism to state conglomerate liberalism
Anyone else want to see him show up at that Cambridge bar & continue discussion with Will Hunting after he schooled that Harvard punk…..
Top intellectual of the world
Very hot 🔥
Anarchism and Socialism that was the time in the 90’s in Serbia 😅
he sounds kind of like Noam Chomsky
Y'all know Noam Chomsky was sexy back then, don't you? What a brain and good looking too.
You are probably crazy…
@@shakey3306nope, just attracted to one of the modern worlds brightest minds.
@@UnBesoDeCristal i always find it funny when relativists talk like they know an objective truth, like your opinion is a fact, they never say how they arrived at the conclusion, again, just opinionated idiots presumptuous enough to think their opinions are facts, Noam Chomsky is an idiot, you just feel represented, disagree? Prove me wrong.
No goody ingles I. Liberalism , is hippie?
No, liberalism are rich people
Capitalism leads to corporatism;and socialism leads to communism.
What a rut we are in. I hope we evolve past money.
Steven Glansburg Socialism is worker control over production. It does not necessarily lead to what you think is communism, because there need not be state power.
Steven Glansburg
Agree , fuck the money .
Money is not the problem.
Capital is the problem!
Socialism and communism are the same thing, workers social or common ownership of the means of production. Marx, for example, used the two terms interchangeably. Don't be fooled by what authoritarians call themselves, it's what they do that defines them. Russia, for example, was no more communist than East Germany was a democracy.
"Communism aims at a society where classes have been abolished as a result of common ownership of the means of production and distribution. It teaches that only in a classless, solidaric commonwealth can man enjoy liberty, peace and well-being." Emma Goldman, Russian Anarchist
"As a matter of fact, there is no Communism in the U.S.S.R. Not a single Communist principle, not a single item of its teaching is being applied by the Communist party there." Emma Goldman, Russian Anarchist
"Indeed, in my opinion, nothing has contributed so much to the corruption of the original idea of Socialism as the belief that Russia is a Socialist country and that every act of its rulers must be excused, if not imitated. And so for the past ten years I have been convinced that the destruction of the Soviet myth was essential if we wanted a revival of the Socialist movement." George Orwell
“Anarchism is really a synonym for socialism. The anarchist is primarily a socialist whose aim is to abolish the exploitation of man by man” Daniel Guerin
"The movement was “divided into two factions; the communistic anarchists and the Proudhon or middle-class anarchists.” - The Autobiographies of the Haymarket Martyrs, p. 81
“If the left is understood to include ‘Bolshevism,’ then I would flatly dissociate myself from the left. Lenin was one of the greatest enemies of socialism.” [Marxism, Anarchism, and Alternative Futures, p. 779]
hah gimana anjir ga ngerti 😩😩
how do Anarchy and Socialism go together? anyone?
time to google and learn what anarchism means
Anarchism is a form of socialism, George
Haha when someone was taught to consider socialism synonymous to communism…
You know who else is a classical liberal? :)
No
anonymous can't remember tbh prolly someone stupid
@Chris Carlone nah doubt it. Good guess tho.
Chris Carlone loool yaaas
@Chris Carlone i dont think he is doe unless you have a video or what
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Hard pills for Chomsky to swallow: Some people are more valuable than others.
The individual is most important to themselves
@Chris Carlone what he or she can pitch in.
Every single individual should to be treated with dignity and respect. But not everyone give the same thing of same amount to society.
@Chris Carlone things that require labor.
I am not up for rent seeking, nor hoarding by one class. You can share amd give to those who cannot fend for themselves. And teach a man to fish, etc.
But individuals also need to give something back when possible. No one is entitled to the fruits of your labor just because they exist. Something has to be exchanged.
Who decides who is valuable? No value today, invaluable tomorrow.
Seems like you are still thinking about capital being in there somewhere.
Obviously Chomsky is much more valuable than you...
He's brilliant until his democrat university funding starts to dry up.
You live in a dream
@@bluecrueful really? i always thought it was a nightmare.