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The new steering wheel and upgraded seats are a MUCH needed interior upgrade. If that bumps the price by a few grand, then so be it. But at least you will feel like you are inside a special car.
Had a chance to get the 2024 or 2025 RS3 and went with the 24 I spec’d out. The 2025 doesn’t look that bad, very similar to the pre face lift model. I appreciate the extra performance and that they took back the compact Nurburgring record. I think the 2025 will be a bit more expensive and the changes aren’t major enough for pre facelift owners to have buyers remorse. I’m really excited to see it fully released without the camo.
I agree without a power upgrade the changes are minor. I think more power would have meant more sales but then it would be faster than an RS4/5 and Audi wouldn’t want that.
Agree 100%.. I'm the same. Also, the average driver IMO doesn't need a Nurburgring record breaker, as great as that is. As you will never extract that performance from it. This new front also does look near identical to the previous gen RS3. Seems like we are going back in time with the styling, but then getting futuristic E-tron interior. Sounds confused to me.
Thank you for this. I was literally in the works about to go and purchase the 2024 RS3 models, but after watching this video I will be holding off till they announce officially the 2025 model. I am disappointed that this car has sacrificed tech features and a better interior design ... hopefully the 2025 model would be a bigger boost. I'm torn between the 2025 RS3 and the new 2025 SQ6 E-Tron thats coming out as well.
Honestly, I think the biggest change needed was for some parts of the interior, like the armrest area. In the current model, it's made of that cheap plastic that makes you feel like you're in a much cheaper car. And here in Spain, we're talking about a car that costs around 90k euros, so things like this are unacceptable.
Great video, but nobody has confirmed hp numbers, its a rumour thats spreading, but no official response. The only thing that is confirmed, is that the driver has said in an interview that the ecu has been recalibrated. 5 swcond difference is massive compared to the 8y using the same trofeo Rs, im sure it has more hp (even if they claim same numbers, its going to be underrated)
Thanks but they are confirmed. Audi put it in the press release with the track time. It may have different power bands that make it faster but it doesn't have more power. I wish they would give it more power!
@TechInTheCar I have read all the press releases that are direct from audi, they don't mention hp, they mention ecu calibration. The hp claim is coming from journalists and the assumption is the it's the same.
You must have missed it, it says: 'Power is still provided by the legendary five-cylinder engine with 400 PS and 500 Nm torque. In combination with the Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R semi-slick tires, the 19-inch ceramic brake system, the RS sports suspension with adaptive damper control, and the optimized chassis setup, the 2.5 TFSI now propels the RS 3 even more spirited around bends. All underscored by its distinctive deep-throated roar, thanks to its signature 1-2-4-5-3 firing sequence.'
@@TechInTheCar yeah I just saw the press release it just looked like it kept pulling a bit longer than before at speed which is why I thought it might have more power
@@knight2425 if you spec the dynamic package (carboceramic brakes and dynamic suspension) then max speed is 290km/h up from 280 which is what you get if you ask for increased max speed but don’t opt for the carboceramic brakes.
Yes, that is correct because it doesn’t have the capacitive sensors built into know your holding the wheel. This new wheel is the first flat bottom (and top too) that the new generation wheels work with. Any existing flat bottom Audi wheel used pressure sensors which are not compatible.
I had a Q4 for a day and they work very well, although feel a bit cheap as the whole panel rattles when pressing a button on either side. I like it as you still do need to press them.
The design of the Q4 wheel is very cool and makes it fun to use. You get used to capacitive buttons but they can still be accidentally activated or you can swipe a bit too far or on the wrong thing.
I'm so curious about the exhaust and sound system. Will it be an Akrapovic like in new S3 or "standard" sport exhaust? Also will it be a Bang&Olufsen (I hope so) or Sonos like in new S3. Can't wait to configure this car.
I expect it to be SONOS, but let’s be clear - it is just a badge on the sound system, it is just the better sound system option for the A3. As for the sound - the car doesn’t look to have different exhausts. It may be an option to have Akrapovic but too early to know for sure.
Bearing in mind how bad the B&O is in the current var, you'd better hope they've done something to improve it. I have an RS3 8Y and it's one thing that's super bad.
Maybe but it would be very expensive as it’s not the screen that’s different it’s the software and I assume you would need to change the hardware ECU. I would contact an Audi retrofit specialist for that! I am not an expert.
i hate how Audi is diluting the RS models to look similar to the base models just gives it less wow factor when it looks like a regular A3 they are following BMW as they are also diluting the M cars by giving the base cars similar features just feels like your being ripped off
Do you know if this steering wheel will be availabile in the new S3 as well? Since it doesnt make sense that only the logo on steering wheel is the old logo
I would think if it works in the RS3 it will work in the S3, but I think that if you want one you will have to buy it as a part; I can’t see Audi putting it on the S3 from factory.
@@TechInTheCarit wouldnt need to be alcantara, just the new design, and it would make sense for the whole new A3 line to get the new steering wheel. Idk what they were thinking to miss match the logos
And with Audi you get awd for all seasons, you get a car that is more balanced and uses the power better, and now the RS3 is faster on the nurburghring than the M2.
@@evanshireman5644 Its not a real awd system. Its just a front wheel hatchback with attachable rear. Unless you live on the north pool you should be fine by using winter tiers. I mean if you want a boring hatch go ahead, I wont stop you :)
…”could get expensive”…lol😂… pre facelift is already very expensive for what this little car is. If you’re correct with $5k more it’s just absurd at that point & total greed by Audi. Add further mark up by dealers and we are pushing $80k… Totally not worth it.. laughable even😂
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great to see Audi has gone back to the circular speedometer
The new steering wheel and upgraded seats are a MUCH needed interior upgrade. If that bumps the price by a few grand, then so be it. But at least you will feel like you are inside a special car.
Thr new steering wheel looks bad
If the UK get those options, which knowing Audi UK, we won't.
Had a chance to get the 2024 or 2025 RS3 and went with the 24 I spec’d out.
The 2025 doesn’t look that bad, very similar to the pre face lift model. I appreciate the extra performance and that they took back the compact Nurburgring record. I think the 2025 will be a bit more expensive and the changes aren’t major enough for pre facelift owners to have buyers remorse. I’m really excited to see it fully released without the camo.
I agree without a power upgrade the changes are minor. I think more power would have meant more sales but then it would be faster than an RS4/5 and Audi wouldn’t want that.
The simple answer to that would be to increase the power in everything else lol
Agree 100%.. I'm the same. Also, the average driver IMO doesn't need a Nurburgring record breaker, as great as that is. As you will never extract that performance from it. This new front also does look near identical to the previous gen RS3. Seems like we are going back in time with the styling, but then getting futuristic E-tron interior. Sounds confused to me.
It sounds like you are trying to justify getting a lesser product
Crazy how the non S line A3 now has the honeycomb grill we would've wanted to see on the S line, S and RS.
I agree!
How about the rs5? Can you do a video on that?
that would be interesting too
I’m considering that one
Thank you for this. I was literally in the works about to go and purchase the 2024 RS3 models, but after watching this video I will be holding off till they announce officially the 2025 model. I am disappointed that this car has sacrificed tech features and a better interior design ... hopefully the 2025 model would be a bigger boost. I'm torn between the 2025 RS3 and the new 2025 SQ6 E-Tron thats coming out as well.
Honestly, I think the biggest change needed was for some parts of the interior, like the armrest area. In the current model, it's made of that cheap plastic that makes you feel like you're in a much cheaper car. And here in Spain, we're talking about a car that costs around 90k euros, so things like this are unacceptable.
Realistically, that’s not going to change. If you want a high quality interior you will have to look elsewhere.
No power increase??? LAME!!! Hopefully they'll change and improve the handling.
Duuuhhh, that's exactly what they did. Same power but quicker than all its more powerful competitors.
3:45 fkn citroen xD
That steering wheel is so much needed
I agree!
This is absolutely great, i like it already
Great video, but nobody has confirmed hp numbers, its a rumour thats spreading, but no official response. The only thing that is confirmed, is that the driver has said in an interview that the ecu has been recalibrated. 5 swcond difference is massive compared to the 8y using the same trofeo Rs, im sure it has more hp (even if they claim same numbers, its going to be underrated)
Thanks but they are confirmed. Audi put it in the press release with the track time. It may have different power bands that make it faster but it doesn't have more power. I wish they would give it more power!
@TechInTheCar I have read all the press releases that are direct from audi, they don't mention hp, they mention ecu calibration. The hp claim is coming from journalists and the assumption is the it's the same.
You must have missed it, it says: 'Power is still provided by the legendary five-cylinder engine with 400 PS and 500 Nm torque. In combination with the Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R semi-slick tires, the 19-inch ceramic brake system, the RS sports suspension with adaptive damper control, and the optimized chassis setup, the 2.5 TFSI now propels the RS 3 even more spirited around bends. All underscored by its distinctive deep-throated roar, thanks to its signature 1-2-4-5-3 firing sequence.'
No change in power for facelift, Audi have already confirmed that.
Got a feeling it has a bit more power or torque cause top speed was 297 in the clip and from memory the current one hit high 280s
It may just be derestricted to a higher speed. Audi are very clear in the press release that it has the same power and torque.
@@TechInTheCar yeah I just saw the press release it just looked like it kept pulling a bit longer than before at speed which is why I thought it might have more power
@@knight2425 if you spec the dynamic package (carboceramic brakes and dynamic suspension) then max speed is 290km/h up from 280 which is what you get if you ask for increased max speed but don’t opt for the carboceramic brakes.
3:49 is that a picture of the new RS3 interior or that of the Q4? If it is the RS3 then it’s a much-needed upgrade
that‘s from the new e-tron gt rs
Thanks for the into. Did you say that the flat bottom steering in the current gen does not allow for lane assist ? Why is that ?
Yes, that is correct because it doesn’t have the capacitive sensors built into know your holding the wheel. This new wheel is the first flat bottom (and top too) that the new generation wheels work with. Any existing flat bottom Audi wheel used pressure sensors which are not compatible.
@@TechInTheCar Not new, seen same wheel in e tron gt
Great to see that they removed this awful black part on the back but this new steering wheel looks like bought on wish
They a gear stick not a switch...also upgrade materials used on the interior. Less piano black...
How is that steering wheel in your Q4? I really hate that they went capacitive buttons but curious how they are in real life
I had a Q4 for a day and they work very well, although feel a bit cheap as the whole panel rattles when pressing a button on either side. I like it as you still do need to press them.
The design of the Q4 wheel is very cool and makes it fun to use. You get used to capacitive buttons but they can still be accidentally activated or you can swipe a bit too far or on the wrong thing.
I'm so curious about the exhaust and sound system. Will it be an Akrapovic like in new S3 or "standard" sport exhaust? Also will it be a Bang&Olufsen (I hope so) or Sonos like in new S3. Can't wait to configure this car.
I expect it to be SONOS, but let’s be clear - it is just a badge on the sound system, it is just the better sound system option for the A3. As for the sound - the car doesn’t look to have different exhausts. It may be an option to have Akrapovic but too early to know for sure.
Bearing in mind how bad the B&O is in the current var, you'd better hope they've done something to improve it. I have an RS3 8Y and it's one thing that's super bad.
Dya think we can reftro fit the instrument cluster into the pre face lift?
Maybe but it would be very expensive as it’s not the screen that’s different it’s the software and I assume you would need to change the hardware ECU. I would contact an Audi retrofit specialist for that! I am not an expert.
I'm ready to change my 8v.2 DAZA , 😝 cant wait
Damn that’s an ugly steering wheel
i hate how Audi is diluting the RS models to look similar to the base models just gives it less wow factor when it looks like a regular A3 they are following BMW as they are also diluting the M cars by giving the base cars similar features just feels like your being ripped off
I agree!
Basically an a3 on stage 2 🙃
Audi tell to BMW
How to not create ugly grills
Do you know if this steering wheel will be availabile in the new S3 as well? Since it doesnt make sense that only the logo on steering wheel is the old logo
I would think if it works in the RS3 it will work in the S3, but I think that if you want one you will have to buy it as a part; I can’t see Audi putting it on the S3 from factory.
@@TechInTheCarit wouldnt need to be alcantara, just the new design, and it would make sense for the whole new A3 line to get the new steering wheel. Idk what they were thinking to miss match the logos
Cars are getting faster and speed limits are down to 20mph in uk 😂
I got 9 points my self. Time to leave uk...
I agree that the UK is not a nice place for anyone to drive.
There is no point of buying an Audi now over the m2 now. Yes the m2 is ugly but the interior is a class above, you get rear wheel drive and 480hp.
For me I want the Quattro system and more space in the back of the car but you are correct about the interior and the power.
G80 M3 for the win
Bruhh curent audi and bmw interior are crap. BMW interior looks like faking todler gaming room it is super cringe
And with Audi you get awd for all seasons, you get a car that is more balanced and uses the power better, and now the RS3 is faster on the nurburghring than the M2.
@@evanshireman5644 Its not a real awd system. Its just a front wheel hatchback with attachable rear. Unless you live on the north pool you should be fine by using winter tiers.
I mean if you want a boring hatch go ahead, I wont stop you :)
…”could get expensive”…lol😂… pre facelift is already very expensive for what this little car is.
If you’re correct with $5k more it’s just absurd at that point & total greed by Audi.
Add further mark up by dealers and we are pushing $80k… Totally not worth it.. laughable even😂
It’s relative - I hope that I’m wrong. Maybe it will come in at £66k and with options it’s £70k.
You probably can't afford it anyway....probably around 68k. I may pick one up in yellow, they are fun cars
@@fzr1000981 no problem affording one & I’m sure they are fun….it’s a value question at this point.