Ferdinand Ries - Piano Concerto No. 9, Op. 177 (1833)

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  • @janellemolony
    @janellemolony 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Wonderful! I love trying to visualize these concerts as theatrical exploits in my head. My 3rd great-grandmother, Sarah Jane Rousseau was a private student of Ferdinand's from about 1818-1824 (while he was in London). She became a well-sought-after musician and teacher to the upper classes in America after that.

  • @simonballard6413
    @simonballard6413 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My favourite Ries concerto, along with no.3. I learned it when we were all confined by the pandemic in 2020. In both the first and last movement, the middle sections are so beautiful. The orchestra is treated very well, too. Fabulous work.

  • @ScherzoForte3
    @ScherzoForte3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you very much for uploading this video series. Piano Concerto No. 9 in G minor, Op. 177. Composed in 1832. Published in 1833. This is my favorite piece. I believe this piece influenced Hummel and even inspired also Reinecke of later. Comment from an unknown composer from Okinawa JAPAN.

  • @FreakieFan
    @FreakieFan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Ries has never disappointed me with his works. A tremendous composer that should be revered.

  • @paulescudero9973
    @paulescudero9973 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is absolutely a wonderful concerto. One of the best ever. Thank you very much Bartje Bartmans.

  • @rafaeljimenezcatano1915
    @rafaeljimenezcatano1915 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    1. Allegro - 00:07
    2. Larghetto con moto - 13:22
    3. Rondo. Allegro - 20:46

  • @utsteinproductions
    @utsteinproductions 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Out of all his concerti, I think I enjoy this one the most. Even though it's in a minor key, I find it to exude triumph over a long journey. It's almost like Ries looked back on his career, saw how much he accomplished, and focused that feeling into this work. Again, thank you for uploading these hidden gems.

    • @Cherodar
      @Cherodar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Both outer movements do end in major though, so that surely has to do with at least some of what you're feeling about it!

    • @NorsePJ
      @NorsePJ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's funny, how people react differently to the musical keys. I always prefer minor key concertos and symphonies. I enjoy both major and minor keys but for me, minor key pieces are more moving. For example, Mozart's Piano Concerto No. 20 and his Symphony No. 40 are very touching. It's the same with Chopin's two piano concertos.

  • @PieroEm1977
    @PieroEm1977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Que hermoso Concierto para piano , bellísimo ♥️♥️

  • @joselopes2293
    @joselopes2293 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the last concerto written for piano by Ries. This masterpiece begins with an Allegro where the influence of Beethoven is noted, however with some originality that distinguished from this one. The romantic lyricism that intersects the moments of greatest musical intensity are proof of this, a case less frequent in Beethoven. The Larghetto is admirable and charming.
    Ries, was one of the great composers and pianist of the Classical-Romantic period and as I have already mentioned he should have the prominent place that would be fair.
    The concerto ends with a Rondo, Allegro full of strength and joviality and divine harmony.
    The pianist is amazing for the sublime way he interprets periods of great musical intensity as those of greater sensibility. The orchestra and its direction are magnificent. Viva Ries and his great and superb music. Thanks for this remarkable recording.

  • @vicenteferrernavarro6742
    @vicenteferrernavarro6742 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It,s unthinkable why this composer has been forgotten so many years.I listen to his works more than Beethoven,s one’s.His nine piano concertos leave speechless for its virtuosity and ………

    • @agseu3668
      @agseu3668 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Não haveria Ries sem Beethoven. Estude a evolução do concerto para piano e não menorize quem, como Mozart e Beethoven, contribuíram para o seu desenvolvimento de uma forma ímpar. E olhe para as datas, Vicente, as datas explicam muita coisa.

  • @mr-wx3lv
    @mr-wx3lv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    It's easy to judge these lesser known composers with, the well known musical giants of the time.
    Yes you could say that it contains hints of Chopin, Mendelssohn etc. And tbh, I can't really detect much Beethoven in this either.
    Ries was a mature composer by the time this was written. And he had hit upon his own, individual style.
    The piano writing in this is astonishingly good.

    • @kennethdower7425
      @kennethdower7425 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mstawse2966 The lesser knowns are just as good, maybe better? LOL! Music is nothing like fashion when it comes to the truly great composers. Some music critics are idiots and you have comfortably joined their ranks.

  • @m3r3l3j
    @m3r3l3j ปีที่แล้ว +3

    great work, at some points quite original... must say I'm impressed!

  • @sousafan100
    @sousafan100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    ries might be a lesser known composer but he is a master at what he does - beethoven taught him well...

    • @Mblog007
      @Mblog007 ปีที่แล้ว

      The third movement is especially moving. Just beautiful!

    • @BichaeldeAngelo
      @BichaeldeAngelo ปีที่แล้ว

      As his descendant, I thank you

  • @jakrol
    @jakrol 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    If there's one thing all of Ries' concertos have in common is their monstrous virtuosity. There is a majesty about the simple, broad and thickly orchestrated themes in the first movement that I really like. The "Gypsy Rondo" (or at least, that's what it sounded like to me) was an excellent movement, with really enjoyable tutti sections breaking up the flutters of the piano. Interesting in the description it's said that this concerto borrows from technique of Dussek, as the Bohemian flare of his g minor concerto is similar to the flare that makes this concerto such a good listen.

  • @Amourtendresse
    @Amourtendresse ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Magnifique 🎶💓🎶✨

  • @katehunt8029
    @katehunt8029 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really enjoyed listening to that......plenty of lovely twists and turns.

  • @rosannamasini2075
    @rosannamasini2075 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Grazie Maestro molto bello complimenti

  • @АпетАпет-л2у
    @АпетАпет-л2у 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Это просто замечательно. Не надо его сравнивать с Бетховеном или с кем - то еще другим.Он сам по себе велик.Мы же не сравниваем Бетховена с Бахом.

  • @davidarmstrong3254
    @davidarmstrong3254 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was moved to tears by the shift from minor to major at around 11.15, commonplace as that move is in Romantic piano concertos--this was so special, nonetheless, like heavenly light dawning on a stormy sea. It seems that if he thought of a cadenza he was too caught up in the flow and perfect form of the first movement to stop it for some meaningless showoff. It just gets better from there. Thanks Bartje!!

  • @valeriykhasyanov9011
    @valeriykhasyanov9011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Восторг и восхищение от такой музыки Ferdinand Ries супер

  • @Ottozimerman
    @Ottozimerman ปีที่แล้ว

    Qué concierto tan maravilloso, es alucinante escuchar a Ries. Un virtuoso del piano, no me cabe duda alguna. ¡Pooooom, poommmmm! Guau!

  • @712niji
    @712niji ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Merci

  • @erika6651
    @erika6651 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely second theme in the last movement!

  • @borisadam1261
    @borisadam1261 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Отличное произведение и исполнение супер. ПРОИЗВЕДЕНИЕ Ferdinand Ries МОЖНО СЛУШАТЬ БЕСКОНЕЧНО.

    • @Queeen7q
      @Queeen7q 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Какого еще "Райса"? Он был немцем, а не англичанином. Произносится " Рис".

    • @borisadam1261
      @borisadam1261 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Queeen7q Ferdinand Ries was a German composer. Ries was a friend, pupil and secretary of Ludwig van Beethoven. Всё верно. Извиняюсь

  • @damiangonzalez_esp
    @damiangonzalez_esp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    How Ries is not in "Inmortal Beloved" or other Beethoven films?

    • @swingsnow9519
      @swingsnow9519 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      if i am remembering this right he is in the movie "eroica"

    • @Chorizo727
      @Chorizo727 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because he isn't significant.

  • @ronaldbwoodall2628
    @ronaldbwoodall2628 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Overall, this may be the best of Ries' Concerti. It is formally secure and melodically inspired, even if somewhat emotionally distant. Highlights are the coda of the 'larghetto' and the lighthearted Mozartean finale that tempers the more serious nature of the preceding movements.

  • @paulfisher5718
    @paulfisher5718 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    True art transcends time, as they say at my local silent film festival!

  • @mruberduck
    @mruberduck 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The description says he copmosed 8 piano concertos, and yet this is a video for no. 9! Interesting to hear these lesser known composers

    • @bartjebartmans
      @bartjebartmans  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ries numbered his Violin Concerto as #1, his first piano concerto #2 and so on.

  • @genheywoodkirk
    @genheywoodkirk ปีที่แล้ว

    2nd mov't is supreme, 3rd is brilliant. But I can't stop reminding some passages from 1st mov't his teacher Beethoven.

  • @nozominozomi3213
    @nozominozomi3213 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:39
    there is a very similar moment in Tchaikovsky's piano concerto No. 1.

  • @CrusaderSan
    @CrusaderSan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Mr. Bartman. I have a question. Why are these scores shown in two parts, as if a piano reduction, for the whole orchestra? It's very easy for me to understand as a pianist. Thank you. Btw thank you for showing this music!

    • @bartjebartmans
      @bartjebartmans  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This was standard print for those days. That way the pianist at home (which were literally thousands) could play a concerto including orchestral tutti's in one flow, without the tricky going in- and out of second piano to first piano. The repertoire got also more accessible this way for the amateur.

    • @CrusaderSan
      @CrusaderSan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bartjebartmans I see, thank you. Yes, I am more of an amateur, and this is very helpful! Hope I can find more of these scores one day. Good day o/

  • @blablablu3081
    @blablablu3081 ปีที่แล้ว

    La quinta sinfonía de Beethoven hecha concierto para piano.

  • @phoebedraper3046
    @phoebedraper3046 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Description says he composed eight piano concertos

    • @jan-stefanvanderwalt6491
      @jan-stefanvanderwalt6491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The concerti are numbered from 1 to 9, however #1 (Opus 24) is for violin and orchestra.

  • @d.o.7784
    @d.o.7784 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    👎

  • @trondarnepettersen5196
    @trondarnepettersen5196 ปีที่แล้ว

    He is shamelessly stealing from Beethoven. Here from the Emperor concerto. It is rather embarrassing. Melodic ideas, harmonic patterns, piano figures.