If you enjoy this piece (and who wouldn’t?), I recommend all four of Carl Reinecke’s Piano Concertos. The slow movement of No, 1 is particularly outstanding. These two composers stand alongside Mendelssohn, and have been unfortunately shelved in favor of Mendelssohn and Schumann. They all knew one another, and had utmost respect for each other. As a pianist, I have nothing but high regard and respect for all the great neglected Romantic works Michael Ponti exposed me to as a student. It must number in the hundreds of pieces I heard as a result of his advocacy, and tireless work. Thank you, Michael!
Well, here I am age 71, and I do believe this is the very first time I have heard this concerto. Very enjoyable, but not to be heard on our local classical music radio stations, with their conservative playlist. Voted "like"
+Harry Andruschak And here I am 90 and also hearing this for the first time. Why have these first class composers and pieces of music been hidden from us. Does this mean that the ignorance of the "experts" is worse than mine?
Hi there, I am 59 this September having the exact experience (zero) as far as this piece is concerned. Nevertheless, a very lovely one, brilliant one ... !
Thank you for sharing!!! I do so wish more people heard the music of the "Schumann Circle;" the composers of the time were really groundbreaking in their musical experimentataions. These are the composers and performers who *created* the Romantic Era. Czerny, Hummel, Field, Kalkbrenner, and Ries took what Beethoven had done and paved the way for artists like Clara and Robert, Thalberg, Moscheles, the Mendelssohns, Liszt, and Chopin. If not for historic purposes, we should at least hear this music for how wonderfully delightful it is!
Autor consagrado en su tiempo, acreditado por Beethoven, Mendelssohn, Chopin, con excelentes relaciones y considerado un prodigio en la metodología del piano. Incluso alguno de los citados aprendieron de él. Gracias a su esposa qué guardó y ordenó trabajos, cartas, documentos, partituras... se puede disfrutar de su música. Como persona, era de gran generosidad, humilde, amigable y fundador de ayudas para jóvenes. Fue respetado y querido por toda su generación.
All those forgotten piano concerts are performed again on CD sequenze Serial "THE ROMANTIC PIANO CONCERTO" of HYPERION label. Already more than 80 CD !
I heard this concerto for the first time sometime in 1991 or 1992 in Austin, Texas, while a PhD student, from the local public radio (there was a radio station with classical music only, its name was KMFA, if I remember well). I was amazed, but did not hear the composer, and I had to call the radio station and ask... Wonderful music! It is quite strange that this concerto has received little (if any) attention. After I heard it, I tried to find this concerto in a CD, but I was not successful. Then I forgot about it. Thanks to "TH-cam" I can enjoy this music again, nearly 30 years after. Thank you guys for having uploaded this wonderful piece of music, it reminds me of my youth. One of the best piano concertos ever!
This should be on CD in the Romantic Piano Concerto series Vox Series which was remastered from an analogue recording. There is a later recording by Howard Shelly Tasmanian SO.
Merveilleuse œuvre la plus connue de Moscheles découverte par Michael Ponti et remarquablement enregistrée en Hongrie . On sent dans l’andante et le final l’inspiration de Chopin. On souhaiterait que de jeunes virtuoses s’intéressent à cette œuvre pour le disque et le concert !
I can hear something of Mendelssohn in this work . No wonder they were friends . His admiration of Beethoven shows in some chord progressions but having outlived the romantics gave him a unique exposure to the output of many schools of musical thought .
Although the concert is written in a minor, it is completed in a joyful expressionistic major. I thank you again and again for the yu-t'yub laborers on behalf of all listeners for your luxurious gifts !!! Tepper Michael.
Really difficult to understand why this composer did not achieve fame as others of his time. Thank you very much for your nice presentation of this lovely Concerto and superb performance.
He did achieve fame though--he's just part of a forgotten canon from the past. I've encountered this particular piece in my readings on American music at the turn of the 20th century. This was part of Amy Beach's debut. It was often cited as a good example of an exit work for piano study in the conservatory at the time.
Hear Brahms piano concert n 1 and n 2, also hear Schuman piano concert, and Rachmaninoff 2 and 3 and last but not least tchaicovisky n 1 and you will understand why this piece can not be a masterpiece ever
BELLISIMO CONCIERTO ! LASTIMA LA POCA DIFUSION DE ESTE GRAN ARTISTA GRACIAS POR SUBIRLO , ACA EN ARGENTINA SI NO FUERA POR YOU TUBE SERIA IMPOSIBLE ESCUCHARLO _!! CUANTO DESPERDICIO EN UN MUNDO GLOBALIZADO HIPÈRCOMUNICADO PERO CADA VEZ MAS HUERFANO DE VALORES CULTURALES ELEVADOS, TAPADOS POR TANTA CHATARRA QUE COMERCIALMENTE LA QUIEREN MEZCLAR CON EL VERDADERO ARTE
So much great and unexplored Classical music by the likes of Moscheles, Hummel, Czerny, et al. and the same old tired war horses on radio and in the concert hall. I know longer go to live concerts to hear the same old same old and ditto for radio. TH-cam is great this way. I don't know why we can't be explosed to other composers. It is a pity.
Michael Ponti was the bomb buck in dee 1970's - and the record company was smart to invest in these old , forgotten potboilers I hope he and them made some money cuz aints nobody buying recs or dvds or cd's nono mo' evby ding is donnit fweeeee NOW in KLaLakaka LaNDDDD!!!
yeah but ist the same today with Pop Music isnt it tere are so many Talents doday, like tally hall for example that not many People listen to even though they make great and complex music
Hummel wrote some of the most interesting modulations in his development sections... I generally listen to him just for that. But holistically I prefer Moscheles.
El epiciclo musical de tal composición se unifica imperiosamente en el sujeto trascendental. Como síntesis estética que deja al oyente en una especie de transformación deliciosa y bella.
¿ DE QUE HABLAS?..¿A QUE PERIODO MUSICAL CORRESPONDE ESTA OBRA?--¿ES CLASICO ROMANTICO CONTEMPORANEO?..¿.O SOLO ES UN FUTIL ARTILUGIO VERBAL PARA ENMASCARAR LO ESTOLIDO?
Surprisingly good, "composed" in its light dialogue with the violins - a s the French use to say "éticillant". Thank you for posting it. But I note there are only 2 of Moschelles in youtube,,,,Shame.
Laughed at. Got alot of training in the Armed Forces iirc and got a lot of crap for it , and after he'd served his country. Smug reviewers, almost all of them failed musicians, excoriated him and his programming on a regular basis. Shameful. He did a ton for Classical Music. Without Lewenthal, Ponti, Bolet, Earl Wild, Vazonyi, Neeme Jaarvi, and other pioneers, " Neglected Composers " devotee soloists like Hamelin and Hough, would have had a harder time making it. These jerks at the newspapers, and magazines ( important then - even The New Republic ! or The Nation ! had a guy critiquing the "European" music scene, Horrors! Forgive their sins !) were even snide about the orchestras and their conductors, none of which would have given them the time of day if they had auditioned. Easy to take pot shots, at pianists, Presidents, pipefitters, whatever, when you just write stuff for a living. I remember even Life magazine had a reviewer, who sniffed after a Ponti performance, " At the end I just wanted to hear ' Fur Elise' ".
@@gregorypalmer5403 thank you. I am envious . EVen though I hated the military I wanted to do better than I did there. When world class musicians are good soldiers or airpersonnell. I feel like I come up short.
The only problem with this is that the edition Vox used for this recording was the one by Carl Reinecke, who cut the opening tutti extensively. He also did the same for the Kalkbrenner Piano Concerto No. 1, and Vox used that one as well.
The "only problem" for whom? Just be grateful that you got this recording at all! VOX might (also) have gone all purist and declared that the uncut version was too long to fit onto an LP so they would not bother to record it at all. Then where would you have been with your show-off opportunity?
Чудова музика! Ніколи не звучить у концертних залах. Велика подяка за можливість познайомитись з цим піаністом, композитором, диригентом. Як же багато чудових творів ніколи не виконується! Може треба цю помилку виправити?
Most obviously, as most all things nowadays are money driven and the frenzy is quite heated we are resigned to expect the “creme de la creme?” Well, bearing in mind also that most all “members of the board” are well heeled this entails that they have the gold. Need I add more? Nevertheless this concerto is brilliant. Me like! PWG
Me like! Maybe the classical music “powers that be” will consider that some of these lesser regarded composers works may even spark the interest of new audience members and thereby create a wider appreciation of the great masters. It is a thought. PWG
i mean basically liszt borrowed everything from paganini to write campanella cause it is a transcription of the third movement of one of paganini's violin concertos
Jerry Zhang Hahaha, people also say 0th Chopin piano concerto is Hummel second or third piano concerto. And also Fields seventh i think? Kalkbrenner also... So many influences. Oh weber too! Hummel field weber moscheles kalkbrenner, 5...
Je pense qu'il existe une ligne très fine entre la conscience des vérités spirituelles et la folie. Cela implique aussi des vérités spirituelles qui sont les émanations d’un esprit humain déchiré, qu'il s'agisse ou non de rechercher ou de retirer quelque signification. Il est également important de se demander pourquoi il en est ainsi. Pourquoi ces vérités spirituelles qui nous obsèdent sont-elles en surface lorsque nous sommes dans un état de transe, de méditation, de jeûne ou de renoncement !?
Nietzsche disait que chacun à la vérité qu'il peut supporter. En savoir un peu plus sans une préparation adéquate peu aboutir effectivement à une sorte de folie. Sans compter que nombreux prennent pour fous certains génies que simplement ils ne comprennent pas. Saluts
Another great "unknow" composer... How the geniuses who come later, like Chopin or Mendelssohn, look less original in their - nevertheless real - genius...
Speaking of Moscheles and the young Felix Mendelssohn, the two met as teacher and pupil and Moscheles confessed to Mendelssohn's father, Abraham, that not only was there nothing to teach, it he, Moscheles, who was the real pupil. They all remained friends throughout their lives and, correct me if I'm wrong, Moscheles along with Robert Schumann who was one of the pall bears at Mendelssohn's untimely death and funeral in 1847..
I’m 74, never heard this on our classical station. A little more music from obscure composers would be lovely. Love all the usual suspects but if I hear Dvorak’s 9th one more time I’ll have to start drinking. And, sorry to all those followers, but Strauss the waltz king is not classical music. Richard Strauss is.
I think it's a good piece from that era but certainly is not a masterpiece, and if not always all the best written music has come out through the centuries, this one is not the case however.
Ponti was the go-to person for this music wheni was growing up. Now there are legions learning this stuff .I can't imagine who really wants to be reminded or hear this eminently forgettable music.His etudes have fine stuff .& of these things.what a chore to familiarize myself with this stuff. Strauss's Burleske comes late but in this vein it is the finest thing he 19th cent. produced after Liszt ,Chopin.Mendelssohn hardly up to their level in those piano concerti .Luckily here are good early 19th century violin concertoVieuxtemps and a hundred others sorta .but pian concerti.Hummel,Field .Hardly. Maybe this music requires a certain taste .Prettified innocuous stuff .what most like Im sure .
+John e martin III and +John Davies Make that 2 in a hundred. I have nothing against this piece of bravura fingerwork, but to me it sounds like early 19th century ear candy--predictable, showy, pretentious at times, lacking substance. Really, I am enjoying getting to know first-hand this music that I have only heard of for most of my 74 years and never heard. Bravo to pioneers like Michael Ponti and Raymond Lewenthal for devoting so much energy so that we can see why some pieces became canonical and others didn't. Keep some perspective. Listen to the theme of the rondo--so much academic earnestness devoted to such trivial material. It may be entertaining, but it doesn't compare to the achingly affecting writing and harmonic imagination in the two Chopins or the Schumann, forget about Brahms.
I think most composers are predictable, showy and pretentious, and certainly Weber was also. But he was surprising and captured the soul, like this one does not.To me its the originality of the concept of the piece, therefore, while Stravinsky may to some extent be predictable, his compositions were formed with lightning bolts.And then, of course one finds that composers rob and steal from other composers.Its the originality of the notes, and this piece just seems to float along without flashes of greatness or originality.This piece proves that virtuosity is not the point of great music, and my drab encounter with this music made me not a fan.The composer was probably very popular in his time, but it is not music of our time.To spend so much time and effort to learn and perfect this piece is, to me, a tragic waste of a brilliant artist's time and energy. Dean Brunel
So many musiclovers who prefer the Romantic Pianoconcerto (cfr Hyperion) to the boring programs of our national radiostations (like Klara)! I don't feel no longer alone. Thanks!
@@arlettehellemans2117 The "Klara" from Vlaamisch Radio is better than America's NPR - actually the music shows are done by something called " American Public Radio" , from Minnesota Public Radio, and so much of it is dumbed-down. Except the superb Bill McLaughlin show, " Exploring Music" , which is really him and WFMT ( Chicago) talking, not NPR/APR. "All Music is Good Music", seems to be NPR's watchword. Fortunately many US States have their own " public" ( means some government money but usually most of the money is from private donations) radio stations and some are very good with classical music. Here in Michigan for example we have WKAR ( Michigan State University), Jody Knol, WBLU/WBLV, Foley Schuler ( Blue Lake Fine Arts Camp) , and WRCJ in Detroit, slightly ( very) connected to the Detroit Public Schools but the School District does not interfere with the programming and the station gets alot of business and individual donations. These stations play Mozart AND Moscheles! CMU and Interlochen Radio good too. Al are Free from radio-locator.com
If you enjoy this piece (and who wouldn’t?), I recommend all four of Carl Reinecke’s Piano Concertos. The slow movement of No, 1 is particularly outstanding. These two composers stand alongside Mendelssohn, and have been unfortunately shelved in favor of Mendelssohn and Schumann. They all knew one another, and had utmost respect for each other. As a pianist, I have nothing but high regard and respect for all the great neglected Romantic works Michael Ponti exposed me to as a student. It must number in the hundreds of pieces I heard as a result of his advocacy, and tireless work. Thank you, Michael!
Yes! Re Reinecke.
hi sir I am Daniel piano teacher from india
@@sdanieldevaraj3309
Hello Daniel! Very nice to meet you. 😂
Robert Schumann love literature. He doubt to what study, music or letters... After a Moscheles concerto, he decided music.
Great info.
At 83 I get to hear for the first time this wonderful music. Thank you so much for sharing. 👍👍👍👍🌹🌹🌹🌹🆒🆒🆒🆒
The melodic line of this wonderful concert is a summary of a deep regret of lost human values, virtues and noble feelings ❤️❤️❤️
Chopin had a great respect for Moscheles even when they were competitors for "the rage of Paris" title.
Ignaz Moscheles (23 May 1794 -- 10 March 1870)
Piano Concerto No. 3 in G Minor, Op. 58
1. Mov: Allegro moderato (00:00)
2. Mov: Adagio (12:05)
3. Mov: Allegro agitato (16:43)
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can't really understand why this masterpiece is not part of the regular repertoire...wonderful composition...
Well, here I am age 71, and I do believe this is the very first time I have heard this concerto. Very enjoyable, but not to be heard on our local classical music radio stations, with their conservative playlist. Voted "like"
+Harry Andruschak And here I am 90 and also hearing this for the first time. Why have these first class composers and pieces of music been hidden from us. Does this mean that the ignorance of the "experts" is worse than mine?
i'm also here- and i am 136, here listening to Moscheles' piano concerto what a glorious delicacy in the fingers and between the notes
Hi there, I am 59 this September having the exact experience (zero) as far as this piece is concerned. Nevertheless, a very lovely one, brilliant one ... !
a glorious delicacy indeed ... ;o)
my message was 'aimed' @ "Alvaro Munoz-joy" !
Thank you for sharing!!! I do so wish more people heard the music of the "Schumann Circle;" the composers of the time were really groundbreaking in their musical experimentataions. These are the composers and performers who *created* the Romantic Era. Czerny, Hummel, Field, Kalkbrenner, and Ries took what Beethoven had done and paved the way for artists like Clara and Robert, Thalberg, Moscheles, the Mendelssohns, Liszt, and Chopin. If not for historic purposes, we should at least hear this music for how wonderfully delightful it is!
Not only for historical purposes! SO much beautiful music, unjustly neglected.
Grandissima inventiva. Un musicista importante, che va assai più valorizzato.
Autor consagrado en su tiempo, acreditado por Beethoven, Mendelssohn, Chopin, con excelentes relaciones y considerado un prodigio en la metodología del piano. Incluso alguno de los citados aprendieron de él. Gracias a su esposa qué guardó y ordenó trabajos, cartas, documentos, partituras... se puede disfrutar de su música. Como persona, era de gran generosidad, humilde, amigable y fundador de ayudas para jóvenes. Fue respetado y querido por toda su generación.
All those forgotten piano concerts are performed again on CD sequenze Serial "THE ROMANTIC PIANO CONCERTO" of HYPERION label. Already more than 80 CD !
I ve listened to this two times today and can't get enough of it...love this beautiful piece.
About four times a day so far
Concerto davvero eccezionale, grande Moscheles, ottima performance!
Piano Concerto No.3 in g minor (composed in 1820) Great work!
Magnifique, j'ai adoré, musique pleine de vivacité joyeuse 🎶💓🎶✨
I heard this concerto for the first time sometime in 1991 or 1992 in Austin, Texas, while a PhD student, from the local public radio (there was a radio station with classical music only, its name was KMFA, if I remember well). I was amazed, but did not hear the composer, and I had to call the radio station and ask... Wonderful music! It is quite strange that this concerto has received little (if any) attention. After I heard it, I tried to find this concerto in a CD, but I was not successful. Then I forgot about it. Thanks to "TH-cam" I can enjoy this music again, nearly 30 years after. Thank you guys for having uploaded this wonderful piece of music, it reminds me of my youth. One of the best piano concertos ever!
This should be on CD in the Romantic Piano Concerto series Vox Series which was remastered from an analogue recording.
There is a later recording by Howard Shelly Tasmanian SO.
What a piece of art! What a piece of art! What a piece if art!
Wow glad (that's how glad) to find this gem and to read all of your comments. Oh, and I'm...I'm... I forget... Oh yeah, here I am at 66.
Never heard this before but what a pleasure to listen to.
Are you the person that moved to radlett (23)?
Un concerto qui mériterait d’être joué plus souvent !!!
Tout à fait d'accord!
Came to revisit this stunningly beautiful concert. after 2 years. Thanking you again for uploading it. Such JOY!!!!
Merveilleuse œuvre la plus connue de Moscheles découverte par Michael Ponti et remarquablement enregistrée en Hongrie . On sent dans l’andante et le final l’inspiration de Chopin. On souhaiterait que de jeunes virtuoses s’intéressent à cette œuvre pour le disque et le concert !
One concert of pure feeling and joy. I am surprised that so few interpretations os this concert are recorded
I have heard the first three offerings of the Moscheles mix--brilliant work
When the piano enters at 1:07... Such a powerful statement. 😨
a great composer. Deserves much more exposure than currently is available. For example, i couldn't find any of his other piano concerti online.
Creo que he sido bendecido... un músico que se parece que ha sido olvidado pero su música no será olvidada en mis oídos
I can hear something of Mendelssohn in this work . No wonder they were friends . His admiration of Beethoven shows in some chord progressions but having outlived the romantics gave him a unique exposure to the output of many schools of musical thought .
Che magnifica scoperta, grazie!
Bravo super brilliance music concerto
Love this as well as his others. Age 80 and discovered this on the Hyperion Romantic music series. Have over 50 of them and all are superb.
Although the concert is written in a minor, it is completed in a joyful expressionistic major. I thank you again and again for the yu-t'yub laborers on behalf of all listeners for your luxurious gifts !!! Tepper Michael.
Eine sehr schöne Musik, taktvoll und mit Energie
I m loving this also, have never heard it before, but now will listen to this beautiful work often
I love this Concerto
Really difficult to understand why this composer did not achieve fame as others of his time. Thank you very much for your nice presentation of this lovely Concerto and superb performance.
He did achieve fame though--he's just part of a forgotten canon from the past. I've encountered this particular piece in my readings on American music at the turn of the 20th century. This was part of Amy Beach's debut. It was often cited as a good example of an exit work for piano study in the conservatory at the time.
radioplug14
Interesting ~ thanks!
Hear Brahms piano concert n 1 and n 2, also hear Schuman piano concert, and Rachmaninoff 2 and 3 and last but not least tchaicovisky n 1 and you will understand why this piece can not be a masterpiece ever
вам ответить, или вы уже сами всё поняли? (почему Мошелес не достиг известности?)
Гениальная музыка !!!
Antonio Duarte :o What?
아름다운 연주곡 잘 들었습니다~감사합니다~🎵🎹🎻🌿🍀☘🌹🌹☘🍀🌿❤❤
Un "incipit" da brividi. Il grande Ignaz ci introduce in atmosfere che ritroveremo in Schumann e in Mendelssohn.
+Antonio Fabi - Lo sto riascoltando: un magnifico, stellare capolavoro.
Que concerto maravilhoso! Muito obrigado.
BELLISIMO CONCIERTO ! LASTIMA LA POCA DIFUSION DE ESTE GRAN ARTISTA
GRACIAS POR SUBIRLO , ACA EN ARGENTINA SI NO FUERA POR YOU TUBE SERIA IMPOSIBLE ESCUCHARLO _!! CUANTO DESPERDICIO EN UN MUNDO GLOBALIZADO HIPÈRCOMUNICADO PERO CADA VEZ MAS HUERFANO DE VALORES CULTURALES ELEVADOS, TAPADOS POR TANTA CHATARRA QUE COMERCIALMENTE LA QUIEREN MEZCLAR CON EL VERDADERO ARTE
😊tal cual estimado Ricardo. Vivo en San Rafael y hay personas nunca escucharon ni un compás de música llamada *clásica*.
I am really very impressed with this.
So much great and unexplored Classical music by the likes of Moscheles, Hummel, Czerny, et al. and the same old tired war horses on radio and in the concert hall. I know longer go to live concerts to hear the same old same old and ditto for radio. TH-cam is great this way. I don't know why we can't be explosed to other composers. It is a pity.
This was recorded by Ian Hobson and the Sinfonia da Camera and is available as a Zephyr CD
Marvelous!
15:49 the transposition is so elegantly written!
beautiful
Michael Ponti was the bomb buck in dee 1970's - and the record company was smart to invest in these old , forgotten potboilers I hope he and them made some money cuz aints nobody buying recs or dvds or cd's nono mo' evby ding is donnit fweeeee NOW in KLaLakaka LaNDDDD!!!
Wonderful !
Czerny, Hummel, moscheles, they all had the same style. But they do not have the exposure they deserve!
Monica Jager Yes you're right. Beethoven faded them. It's the problem of being contemporary with the Bonn genius.
Mmm... The best are Hummel, Moscheles, Weber, Field and Kalkbrenner.
Clementi over Czerny...
yeah but ist the same today with Pop Music isnt it tere are so many Talents doday, like tally hall for example that not many People listen to even though they make great and complex music
Hummel wrote some of the most interesting modulations in his development sections... I generally listen to him just for that. But holistically I prefer Moscheles.
awesome!
El epiciclo musical de tal composición se unifica imperiosamente en el sujeto trascendental. Como síntesis estética que deja al oyente en una especie de transformación deliciosa y bella.
¿ DE QUE HABLAS?..¿A QUE PERIODO MUSICAL CORRESPONDE ESTA OBRA?--¿ES CLASICO ROMANTICO CONTEMPORANEO?..¿.O SOLO ES UN FUTIL ARTILUGIO VERBAL PARA ENMASCARAR LO ESTOLIDO?
@@ciprianoderore4792 romántico...bonita forma de desarrollar la fútil belleza que envuelve la nada, que tenéis ambos 😂
😊Eduardo, Cipriano y Pteroglosis linda gente😅🎶
@@martaaliciabilbao3195 😚😚😚😚😘
Surprisingly good, "composed" in its light dialogue with the violins - a s the French use to say "éticillant". Thank you for posting it. But I note there are only 2 of Moschelles in youtube,,,,Shame.
What does éticillant mean? The word is not listed in Larousse?
@@dlw4676 maybe it's "étincelant" ?
Michael Ponti is a world class pianist. Was he ever acknowledged as such?
Laughed at. Got alot of training in the Armed Forces iirc and got a lot of crap for it , and after he'd served his country. Smug reviewers, almost all of them failed musicians, excoriated him and his programming on a regular basis. Shameful. He did a ton for Classical Music. Without Lewenthal, Ponti, Bolet, Earl Wild, Vazonyi, Neeme Jaarvi, and other pioneers, " Neglected Composers " devotee soloists like Hamelin and Hough, would have had a harder time making it. These jerks at the newspapers, and magazines ( important then - even The New Republic ! or The Nation ! had a guy critiquing the "European" music scene, Horrors! Forgive their sins !) were even snide about the orchestras and their conductors, none of which would have given them the time of day if they had auditioned. Easy to take pot shots, at pianists, Presidents, pipefitters, whatever, when you just write stuff for a living. I remember even Life magazine had a reviewer, who sniffed after a Ponti performance, " At the end I just wanted to hear ' Fur Elise' ".
Thank you Gregory. Good points here.
What branch did Ponti serve in.
@@lunchmind Pretty sure it was Army or Air Force.
@@gregorypalmer5403 thank you. I am envious . EVen though I hated the military I wanted to do better than I did there. When world class musicians are good soldiers or airpersonnell. I feel like I come up short.
The only problem with this is that the edition Vox used for this recording was the one by Carl Reinecke, who cut the opening tutti extensively. He also did the same for the Kalkbrenner Piano Concerto No. 1, and Vox used that one as well.
Vox?
the recording company.
The "only problem" for whom? Just be grateful that you got this recording at all! VOX might (also) have gone all purist and declared that the uncut version was too long to fit onto an LP so they would not bother to record it at all. Then where would you have been with your show-off opportunity?
favoloso
좋은 음악 감사드려요.^^
Chopin played it as a youth.
Superb.
Чудова музика! Ніколи не звучить у концертних залах. Велика подяка за можливість познайомитись з цим піаністом, композитором, диригентом. Як же багато чудових творів ніколи не виконується! Може треба цю помилку виправити?
lesser god but even beautiful
Most obviously, as most all things nowadays are money driven and the frenzy is quite heated we are resigned to expect the “creme de la creme?” Well, bearing in mind also that most all “members of the board” are well heeled this entails that they have the gold. Need I add more? Nevertheless this concerto is brilliant. Me like! PWG
Me like! Maybe the classical music “powers that be” will consider that some of these lesser regarded composers works may even spark the interest of new audience members and thereby create a wider appreciation of the great masters. It is a thought. PWG
I'm not that familiar with this concerto but inspiring.
I am hearing some Mendelssohnic elaborations
Sounds similar to Chopin's 1st piano concert. Which one is composed first, who knows?
+Jerry Jerry Moscheles composed first. 16 year-old Chopin played this piano Concerto at Warsaw, 1826
Chopin & Liszt were Inspired by M.i just found out.
2:22 Oops, it seems that Liszt borrowed something from this concerto to write his Campanella hehe
Oops, it seems Chopin also borrowed material from Moscheles.
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World is full of professional borrowers XD
Oh jeez yes, I should've said that in the first place! LOL
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i mean basically liszt borrowed everything from paganini to write campanella cause it is a transcription of the third movement of one of paganini's violin concertos
Very true, but it is quite generic figuration! (i.e. a logical embellishment of the scale)
Chopin's zeroth piano concerto!
Jerry Zhang Hahaha, people also say 0th Chopin piano concerto is Hummel second or third piano concerto. And also Fields seventh i think? Kalkbrenner also... So many influences. Oh weber too! Hummel field weber moscheles kalkbrenner, 5...
Also Ries, Dussek, Cramer, etc
que maravilhoso parece ser irmão de Tchaikovsky. Parece uma conversa entre Tchaikovsky, Mozart e Chopin.
Je pense qu'il existe une ligne très fine entre la conscience des vérités spirituelles et la folie. Cela implique aussi des vérités spirituelles qui sont les émanations d’un esprit humain déchiré, qu'il s'agisse ou non de rechercher ou de retirer quelque signification. Il est également important de se demander pourquoi il en est ainsi. Pourquoi ces vérités spirituelles qui nous obsèdent sont-elles en surface lorsque nous sommes dans un état de transe, de méditation, de jeûne ou de renoncement !?
Nietzsche disait que chacun à la vérité qu'il peut supporter. En savoir un peu plus sans une préparation adéquate peu aboutir effectivement à une sorte de folie. Sans compter que nombreux prennent pour fous certains génies que simplement ils ne comprennent pas. Saluts
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Someone knows where i can buy the orchestra part of this concerto? Please!
imslp.org/wiki/Piano_Concerto_No.3%2C_Op.58_(Moscheles%2C_Ignaz) for Piano part
12:09 - 2nd movement
Why do you are listening to this? (curiosity how seven tens of thousand people discovered this piece...)
unbelieveably similar to Chopin:-)
no it's not
There are 6 composers that influenced so directly Chopin, Bellini, Kalkbrenner, Moscheles, Field, Hummel and Weber.
But also Ries, Dussek, Cramer, Rossini... Etc.
12:04 Adagio
8:23
16:01 - как у Шопена 2 концерт фа минор в ларгетто
Perché non si suona nei teatri?!
Another great "unknow" composer... How the geniuses who come later, like Chopin or Mendelssohn, look less original in their - nevertheless real - genius...
Speaking of Moscheles and the young Felix Mendelssohn, the two met as teacher and pupil and Moscheles confessed to Mendelssohn's father, Abraham, that not only was there nothing to teach, it he, Moscheles, who was the real pupil. They all remained friends throughout their lives and, correct me if I'm wrong, Moscheles along with Robert Schumann who was one of the pall bears at Mendelssohn's untimely death and funeral in 1847..
I’m 74, never heard this on our classical station. A little more music from obscure composers would be lovely. Love all the usual suspects but if I hear Dvorak’s 9th one more time I’ll have to start drinking. And, sorry to all those followers, but Strauss the waltz king is not classical music. Richard Strauss is.
I think it's a good piece from that era but certainly is not a masterpiece, and if not always all the best written music has come out through the centuries, this one is not the case however.
Ponti was the go-to person for this music wheni was growing up. Now there are legions learning this stuff .I can't imagine who really wants to be reminded or hear this eminently forgettable music.His etudes have fine stuff .& of these things.what a chore to familiarize myself with this stuff. Strauss's Burleske comes late but in this vein it is the finest thing he 19th cent. produced after Liszt ,Chopin.Mendelssohn hardly up to their level in those piano concerti .Luckily here are good early 19th century violin concertoVieuxtemps and a hundred others sorta .but pian concerti.Hummel,Field .Hardly. Maybe this music requires a certain taste .Prettified innocuous stuff .what most like Im sure .
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+John e martin III and +John Davies Make that 2 in a hundred. I have nothing against this piece of bravura fingerwork, but to me it sounds like early 19th century ear candy--predictable, showy, pretentious at times, lacking substance. Really, I am enjoying getting to know first-hand this music that I have only heard of for most of my 74 years and never heard. Bravo to pioneers like Michael Ponti and Raymond Lewenthal for devoting so much energy so that we can see why some pieces became canonical and others didn't. Keep some perspective. Listen to the theme of the rondo--so much academic earnestness devoted to such trivial material. It may be entertaining, but it doesn't compare to the achingly affecting writing and harmonic imagination in the two Chopins or the Schumann, forget about Brahms.
I think most composers are predictable, showy and pretentious, and certainly Weber was also. But he was surprising and captured the soul, like this one does not.To me its the originality of the concept of the piece, therefore, while Stravinsky may to some extent be predictable, his compositions were formed with lightning bolts.And then, of course one finds that composers rob and steal from other composers.Its the originality of the notes, and this piece just seems to float along without flashes of greatness or originality.This piece proves that virtuosity is not the point of great music, and my drab encounter with this music made me not a fan.The composer was probably very popular in his time, but it is not music of our time.To spend so much time and effort to learn and perfect this piece is, to me, a tragic waste of a brilliant artist's time and energy. Dean Brunel
So many musiclovers who prefer the Romantic Pianoconcerto (cfr Hyperion) to the boring programs of our national radiostations (like Klara)! I don't feel no longer alone. Thanks!
@@arlettehellemans2117 The "Klara" from Vlaamisch Radio is better than America's NPR - actually the music shows are done by something called " American Public Radio" , from Minnesota Public Radio, and so much of it is dumbed-down. Except the superb Bill McLaughlin show, " Exploring Music" , which is really him and WFMT ( Chicago) talking, not NPR/APR. "All Music is Good Music", seems to be NPR's watchword. Fortunately many US States have their own " public" ( means some government money but usually most of the money is from private donations) radio stations and some are very good with classical music. Here in Michigan for example we have WKAR ( Michigan State University), Jody Knol, WBLU/WBLV, Foley Schuler ( Blue Lake Fine Arts Camp) , and WRCJ in Detroit, slightly ( very) connected to the Detroit Public Schools but the School District does not interfere with the programming and the station gets alot of business and individual donations. These stations play Mozart AND Moscheles! CMU and Interlochen Radio good too. Al are Free from radio-locator.com
This guy must've been a great player, but his compositions lack focus and are over burdened with passage work and not enough memorable themes.
Having found this a few years ago it's still played three times a day
Wonderful!