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- This week on Buckle Up it's GOOD NEWS Harry reviews the hybrid version of his own car. This is the Romanian's brand large 7 seat family vehicle, though they refuse to decide if its an MPV, SUV or Estate. They have decided to slap a 140 bhp drivetrain in it though, so is it worth the extra money?
Up against rivals such as the Citroen Berlingo, Ford Tourneo Connect, Peugeot Rifter, Renault Kangoo, Skoda Yeti, Vauxhall Combo Life and Volkswagen Caddy Life does the Dacia offer a thrifty but fun alternative?
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Honestly, the first few seconds of this video got me hooked. Your presence on camera is great and I love your energy!
You're too kind, thank you so much
Well said :)
I'm glad that you do these reviews. Especially on cheap 7 seaters and many others it helps me makey decision alot easier
We're here to help 😁
I have this car in this colour, I am so impressed with it. Glad you like it too!
It's such a good colour
Jogger Hybrid is second on my list
First is the new Duster Gen 3, same drivetrain.
We'll see, this videos are really helping, thanks
Hopefully we'll be able to make a video on the duster soon 🤞
Had one for a few hours last year and was a big fan! So many combos for people, pets and trips to the tip!
It's a very versatile vehicle
Thankyou for reviewing this vehicle that is in a really good hybrid in a budget spot that most can afford.
That's very kind of you to say
Enjoying the more rural end to this video, a field definitely adds some depth as a filming location.
Thanks, it's just for the aesthetic
You forgot to add the engine has no turbo no timing belt just a timing chain and no clutch on the hybrid plus plenty of power.
Well there's no significant reliability issues on the standard models engine, but mechanical simplicity is a good thing
@@BuckleUpShow the standard engine has a more and more issues with the clutch and the gearbox. Some people already replaced it 3 times in 2 years...
Seems Dacia plan to provide a new clutch that should solve most of the problem.
The 1.0 tce has a timing chain. it's a lot more reliable than you'd think.
@@mitchreeves1 most of the issues with the TCE are related to the clutch and the gearbox
I have had my Jogger Extreme Hybrid since November 2023 and had no issues other than a heated seat switch, I also get anything between 50-66mpg around town depending on the weather. If you turn off the limited and take it out of Eco and floor it, it will take on boy racers much their surprise. The middle row of seats can be a bit tight and are a bit like those seats you get on urban trains that a like ironing boards. Everything works as is, but I would get the Extreme with heated seats as they are freezing in the winter. You get instant heat or A/c so no problem there, The arm rest is hopelessly small and raked to forward but there is a kit you can buy to adjust it. Also same goes for the useless interior lights that you can upgrade using Renault parts for £50 or so. Gear changes are hardly noticeable and it will rev up to 4500rpm if the battery is low and you are going up a hill. Keep it in the green zone and it will be a hybrid. Go in the white zone and it's ICE. The pedal is fly by wire so it's connected by a stepper motor to a ECU. You do get sudden brake loss when it goes from IVE to EV which is alarming. You can drive it one pedal though which is excellent around town. Load capacity is huge and you can get five sheep in it as seen in Romania! It's actually a head turner in N. London. You can get the MY24 version with the extra bits but hardly worth the wait.
What happened to the heated seat switch?
I have just ordered the Hybid Extreme in Terracotta. Will be here late August i was told . Great review . You covered everything i wanted to know.
Glad I could help
Nice bit of Woolarding at the start Harry. Seamless.
And importantly my trousers seams also stayed intact, as that can be the undoing of a good Woolard
I added a tuning box to my TCe Jogger, takes power up to 130 bhp and 250nm. Really makes a difference to the little engine.
It also invalidates the warranty
@@BuckleUpShow yeah true, there is a risk there but easy enough to remove before taking it in for service.
@thelivingdodo2 you do realise that your car logs everything you do on its onboard computer? When you take it in for its service, they will plug in their laptop to your car and it will show them the excess power output in an instant.
Nice vid Harry. I've been tempted with the Jogger, looks great value for money. That rear leg room is a dealbreaker though, you did not look comfortable and neither would my 6ft family!
If you drive with the front seat raised up it makes a massive difference, but there's no getting round that it's always going to be fairly tight for taller people in the second row
Don't forget that the Jogger has no torque converter or synchromesh so it uses the motors adjust the engine and gearbox accordingly. Advantage is that gear changes are undetectable, one glitch is that can "Kangaroo" around when the limiter is on around 23-25mph as the it can't decide what to do.
To be fair there's plenty of torque converter systems capable of undetectable shifts under normal driving situations
I absolutely love my jogger extreme. Much better drive than my previous car vw diesel touran . My jogger is so smooth to drive and feels lighter. It really is a nice surprise. So much room in boot too. Comparable to the touran . Highly recommend. Love your review as i wasnt 100% sure of difference between b/d drive. I was told to use B drive around town where you are under 50mph and D drive on motorway
Glad to be of help
Nice review
Nice comment
I currently have the Diesel Duster and love it. I’m tempted by this but I’m sticking with traditional fuel for now.
A diesel Jogger would make a lot of sense, but it doesn't look like Dacia are going to make one
It would be so nice to have a camping mode with both ventilation, heating and air-con controlled by a smartphone app through the Bluetooth interface.
The heating is immediate when starting the car so I suppose some of it is electric.
The air-con compressor is driven by a dedicated electric engine.
The engine would start now and then just to replenish the 1.2 kWh battery and ensure the continuity of the camping mode operation.
So all the hardware is there it's only the software missing.
Wouldn't it be nice if we were older?
Then we wouldn't have to wait so long
And wouldn't it be nice to live together
In the kind of world where we belong?
You know it's gonna make it that much better
When we can say goodnight and stay together
Wouldn't it be nice if we could wake up
In the morning when the day is new?
After having spent the day together
Hold each other close the whole night through
But happy times together we've been spending
I wish that every kiss was never-ending
Oh, wouldn't it be nice?
Maybe if we think and wish and hope and pray, it might come true (Run, run, we-ooh)
Oh, baby, then there wouldn't be a single thing we couldn't do
Oh, we could be married (Oh, we could be married)
And then we'd be happy (And then we'd be happy)
Oh, wouldn't it be nice?
You know it seems the more we talk about it
It only makes it worse to live without it
But let's talk about it
But wouldn't it be nice?
Goodnight, my baby
Sleep tight, my baby
Goodnight, my baby
Sleep tight, my baby
Goodnight, my baby
Sleep tight, my baby
@@BuckleUpShow Dacia pretends to have cars for outdoor adventure.
It would not be stupid to implement the camping mode even as an option.
@@BuckleUpShow Thank you for the lyrics.
Contemplating either going straight in for this or getting a 2021 grand citeron c4 space tourer for a few years and then coming back for the jogger. Do you have any experience of the grand c4 and how would you say they match up?
Isn't a used C4 going to be as much as a brand new jogger and not have the benefit of a warranty?
Hello everyone! I must say, what an impeccably crafted review; every word was a delight to watch. I'm absolutely sold on this car and eager to make it mine. Could you advise on the most cost-effective way to purchase this model in the UK? Your insights would be greatly appreciated. I'm truly astounded by the car's practicality and versatility. Dacia has truly surpassed themselves with this masterpiece. Bravo, Dacia!
Well the only way to buy it for the starting £23k price would to be pay cash, as they charge interest on the finance options
Is that gearbox a torque converter auto or a programmed shift CVT .. ? Please 🤔
Neither, it's a 4 speed dog box where one of the two electric motors gets the gears spinning at the perfect speed to mesh together without the need for a clutch or torque converter
@@BuckleUpShow So is it a Toyota eCVT?
No
Hey, I would look into driving in B gear all the time. I think it's specifically designed for going downhill and it may not in fact charge the battery more.
It doesn't charge the battery more per se, but I like having regen on all the time. If you use it for things like slowing down at junctions and roundabouts and not the brakes you do recoup more energy than you otherwise would though
I have driven the hybrid Dacia Jogger in a mountain region of France. I always use the B mode.
I really appreciated the B mode on downhill sections, which gave me good electric braking even when the battery was full.
I had very little need to use the brake pedal on descents, where the travel mode was always in EV with the combustion engine at a standstill.
Starting with a battery that's 50% full, you have to go down a gradient of around 200 meters before it's fully charged.
When the battery is at 100%, the Jogger still has the same electric braking capacity, as the starter-alternator drives the combustion engine at idle to dissipate braking energy.
Driving this car in a mountain region was a great experience and I felt very secure in all the slopes and bends.
At what miles per hour does the petrol engine kick in im interested as i do a lot of city bumper to bumper driving
It can drive in EV mode up to 43 mph
@@BuckleUpShow It drives in EV mode up to any speed but only if the battery is charged enough and the power requirement is below the 50 hp of the electric engine.
Petrol engine mode cannot be used for traction below 30 km/h.
If the petrol engine kicks in below 30 km/h it's just to replenish the battery not for traction.
The car drives in EV mode up to any speed but only if the battery is charged enough and the power requirement is below the 50 hp of the electric engine.
Petrol engine mode cannot be used for traction below 30 km/h.
If the petrol engine kicks in below 30 km/h it's just to replenish the battery not for traction.
No spare? Will the kit do anything useful?
Nice review 👍
You can buy a spare from a Dacia dealer, but it might just have to be loose in the boot on this hybrid model
@BuckleUpShow I can live with that.
BTW, how tall are you? I'm 6'4" wondering about my headroom. As usual.
I'm 5'11" but I have around 5" of head room
Can you use air condition or heat in electric mode when parked? Like a camping mode.
Not without the petrol engine turning itself back on every so often
@@BuckleUpShow
Ok thank you. Approximately how often does the engine start.
Thank again
It would be so nice to have a camping mode with both ventilation, heating and air-con controlled by a smartphone app through the Bluetooth interface.
The heating is immediate when starting the car so I suppose some of it is electric.
The air-con compressor is driven by a dedicated electric engine.
The engine would start now and then just to replenish the 1.2 kWh battery and ensure the continuity of the camping mode operation.
So all the hardware is there it's only the software missing.
I would say, it's more like driving a 5 speed than a 4 speed automatic gearbox of a petrol engine as traction below 30 km/h is exclusively provided by the 50 hp electric engine.
The petrol engine gearbox only kicks in, when power demand exceeds 50 hp and when speed is above 30 km/h.
But I agree, the equivalent of only 5 speeds with a petrol engine is not a lot.
My father has bought this car and he likes it a lot. I drove it and I enjoy it too.
If you play the by rules for good mileage you can achieve easily 5 litres per 100 kilometers.
Personally I score 4.7 liter per 100 kilometers.
However when it's really cold in winter, heating the car needs more petrol and then my score is 5.2 liters per 100 kilometers.
The engine will absolutely kick in from 0 mph if you drive with gusto
@@BuckleUpShow Yes, the engine kicks in below 30 km/h but it's just to replenish the 1.2 kWh battery not for traction.
Below 30km/h the Jogger petrol engine works in a serial hybrid mode and cannot work in parallel hybride mode.
Imagine if they put the the jogger shell onto the MG4 Extended Range. That'd sew up the market in the UK given that the only other viable estate car: VX Astra has a 50kWh battery in.
I don't think it will be too long before Dacia have their MG4 rival
Some people don't know how to work it out. The display won't show the % EV mode.
Well how would you want it to work out the %, by time or distance?
@@BuckleUpShow It's easy to work out though. Divide the EV distance by the overall total then multiply by 100
I am attempting to rewrite the LG source code to include the info on the Eco screen as a % @@BuckleUpShow
On my father hybride Jogger, there is a page which indicates since the last time you reset the odometer :
1) your total mileage since last reset,
2) the distance driven in EV mode since last reset,
3) the average fuel consumption per 100 km since last reset.
I play the rule of hybride driving and usually the car is driven 55% of the distance in EV mode and I do 4.7 liter per 100 km.
What it does not tell you the % in EV mode. You can work it out quite easily. I have had mine for 2 months. I think the argument is that if you want a Auto you only get the hybrid.
I didn't think I needed to explain what 330 was as a percentage of 1000
Wish i could of got mine in green , id of then called it Starbug.
I call mine the Dogger
Euro Ncap rating of 1 is the deal breaker for me considering it's a family vehicle you'd expect better it's virtually a death box.
It's occupancy protection is 69.5%, it's score is lowered by it's lack of active safety system and it's danger to pedestrians, long way from being a death trap
I bet you wish you’d waited until it was available in greeeeeennnn!
Well, there's always the next car
@@BuckleUpShowI wonder what the trade in value on a 2022 Dacia Jogger with 22k miles is against one of these?
Adding hybrid makes ir more complicated
But also more efficient
I see cut and paste from old white car, the bug was still there 😂😂😂😂
I don't know what you mean, I definitely didn't forget to grab a new shot with the press car while I had it 😅
A breathless vehicle.. French CO2 punishment has led to tiny overstressed engines ( see Renault/ Citroën engines of 1,2 3 cylinders) that won't see 100, 000 miles.. They sell plenty of these Dacia in France so they desperately muck about power and engine capacity..
A false ecology concept as a vevicle that lasts 20 years is less stress on the environment...
It's a 1.6 that with hybrid assistance is making 138 bhp, it's hardly over stressed
Liked and subscribed ❤. Godspeed
Very much appreciated, thank you!