Pocahontas: The Tragic True Story
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 มิ.ย. 2019
- In the famous Disney film, Pocahontas sang about the “Colors of the Wind”, and we learned that everyone can get along, despite their cultural differences. While the intent behind the movie may have been good, it is nowhere near being historically accurate. The true story is much darker, and for some of you out there, this video just may ruin your childhood memories. This is the true story of Pocahontas.
→Subscribe for new videos four times per week.
th-cam.com/users/biographics...
Visit our companion website for more: biographics.org
Credits:
Host - Simon Whistler
Author - Shannon Quinn
Producer - Jennifer Da Silva
Executive Producer - Shell Harris
Business inquiries to biographics.email@gmail.com
Other Biographics Videos:
Empress Sisi - The 19th Century Princess Diana
• Empress Sisi - The 19t...
Nikita Khrushchev - The Man Behind the Missile Crisis
• Nikita Khrushchev - Th...
Source/Further reading:
www.smithsonianmag.com/histor...
www.nps.gov/jame/learn/histor...
historycollection.co/16-tragi...
Dude the death penalty for all rapists sounds like a brilliant policy.
Unfortunately America seams to have adopted the English punishment on that.
It seems the Powhatan were far more socially advanced then my morally impoverished however religious progenitors.
@drdavid You seem to have a chip on your shoulder.
Ooooo, man overboard!
@drdavid Oh sorry guess I should have taken what you said a twisted to make it sound worse than it was.
TH-cam has restricted and demonetized this video for being "offensive and threatening" to advertisers. The history is offensive, the video is not!
Great comment, history is true, I don’t understand why youtube took it down.
Because ignorance is bliss
Facts! Triggered!
Agreed. Simon always does a great job at sorting out facts and delivering them. I could listen to him for hours, usually do.
@@tomc.3966 an example of what you say was in Australia with the Aborigines. The Aboriginals were not allowed to speak their language and were arrested for doing so either publicly or privately. In the 1960s academics started compiling information on the Aboriginal languages and would interview those incarcerated. It seems education is the key to overcome pig ignorance.
“Disney’s Historically accurate Pocahontas” would be the most depressing cartoon ever produced.
I’d watch it
Historically accurate... or even accurate to source story anything can be a bit... depressing at best. Bloody and violent some other times.
Never watched it until today. So yeah, thank God.
Might just be the reason why this has been considered by u-tube as offensive
Most of the historically told versions of Disney stories are terrifying. Many are based on the writings of the Brothers Grimm.
John Smith is very unreliable as a source. Good on you Simon for calling him out.
Basically, any educated person agrees that John Smith is a very unreliable source.
@@Dell-ol6hb So true.
yes
He was a jerk of the highest order.
Yes,dock John's pay and send him to reeducation classes.
Thanks Disney for helping solidify John Smith's lies
I think most people know that John Smith was a liar.
disney was a friend of verner van braun.. a leading nazi one of creators of nasa, working for us under operation paperclip. disney has been in on it all
I can only remain hopeful that more people hear about Pocahontas, more would be willing to do the research, but in all likeliness, people are just going to take Disney's version and run with it.
Don't kid yourself. I was taught the John Smith version at a fairly progressive Catholic school in 1970.
Disney just cashed in on something the majority of the country already believed.
@@fpoa that live action Pocahontas remake though....
Damn... that was depressing. However, I am grateful to hear the truth. I feel foolish that I never actually knew the history of Pocahontas.
Why would you? Almost all of history is written by the victors. Everything we learned in school is biased and sugarcoated in some way. For example, I learned all about the Civil War growing up in Upstate New York. When I moved to the South and worked on the films, I learned that they have a completely different interpretation of the war. We cannot be expected to know everything.
You shouldn’t history has tried to cover up the real story of Pocahontas
Me too 😢 it’s my business name
real history is too messed up
As a Native American, my heart still hurts for the atrocities committed, and then formulated into a love story for pure profit!! This does not even begin to scratch the surface of things that were done!! Yet, they called us savages!!
I respect you and your culture, you would have thought that in the 21st century we would have at least tried to apologize or try to atone for the atrocities befallen your proud nations of native americans... yet we still pile on the dehumanizing of the true americans. Your people are more civilized than the modern world could ever hope to be.
@@wackydave46 Why would you apologize? What did you do? Responsibility is personal. We didn't murder every German at the end of WW2 for war crimes did we? If it was collective than nearly every nation owes each other an apology. History isn't just a story of victim and perpetrator. To varying degrees all cultures have done hideous things.
I don't want to imagine the horrible things that happened to my ancestors. I can't trace them that far back at this point to know where they wouldn't been during this time period, but no good things were done to the Native Americans by the Europeans.
@@Caramel1806 the native americans also abused others ; in particular africans, the shaune and cherokee all had african slaves, and were exceptionally brutal to them.
they said the natives have no souls, they needed to baptise pocahontas so she could maybe get even an instance of a soul and then get married, but when it comes to raping her the sould doesn't matter they do it in a blink of an eye....it makes me so mad inside, god help me what i'd do to these people....much love for you from Serbia
When people try to justify murder, abuse, and torture by claiming "Not a Person," consider how many times in the past that same justification has been used.
Slavery. Don’t forget, they put in the law a slave was only 3/5 of a person. America is doing everything it can to rewrite its own ugly history, and portray itself as the victim. There are textbooks in Texas that actually refer to slavery as “immigration”.
You've perfectly described abortion. If it's "not a person", what is it?
A tree root?
A piglet?
A cancerous tumor?
"A person's a person no matter how small." -Dr. Seuss
a good example of this is slaves
@@michaelaluna7684 it's a fetus, only roughly the size of an orange seed when aborted. So if you say that a fetus the size of an orange seed without having an existence in the real world is the same as a breathing, living person, then idk what to tell you.
When someone can't live without life support they can be taken off of it. In the same way , a fetus feeds off of the mother like a parasite to a host.
It'd be wonderful if a fetus could be developed into a baby outside of a mother's belly. But until that doesn't happen, the mother, who are often children themselves, shouldn't have to suffer with everything else that comes on top of carrying a baby in your belly for 9 months.
If you're truly pro-life you'd care about the life that already exists in fostering and adoption centers. You'd protest against child abuse.
But you don't, ever. The only moment where you "care" about life is when it's an unborn baby because it's like a blank canvas, it's so easy to want to protect something that doesn't have opposing views to you. It's easy to claim to care for someone who's not your responsibility. It's easy to claim to care about a life that hasn't even lived yet.
It's harder to be humane towards someone who shouldn't deserve it. It's harder to make humane decisions for people who have atrocious crimes.
Don't ever call yourself "pro life" when all you really do is make one life that already exists miserable, while never caring about all those unfortunate children that grow up in loveless homes or adoption centers.
Disney should have left it alone instead of selling lies
@Redღ You are comparing a story with real people loosely based on real events with a fictional novel... Might as well complain about why they left out Cinderella's sisters' cutting off bits of their feet or getting their eyes pecked out by birds. Or about how the Frog Princess killed the frog.
@Redღ "Still do such things as kidnapping"
I'm French but so far I never heard of a real confirmed case of kid kidnapped by Gypsies/Roms.
But what I remember was from just one or two monthes ago when this old fake news of a white truck driven by Roms to steal childrens came back.
This led to some random innocent people being beaten for nothing.
I'm not saying there is no problem with them (half of the "syrians refugee" in Paris are actually them) but things tend to be highly exagerated.
@JessikaEmerald That isn't and literally has never been true
@JessikaEmerald I disagree. I think it was good of Disney to remove the past that was written for Esmeralda in the book. Said past carries some pretty racist undertones, if you really think about it. It leans on the "All Roma are dishonest thieves" thing that's plagued them for centuries and seems to imply that Esmeralda is a good person with a kind, noble heart specifically because she's not ethnically Roma herself.
Her past being what it is puts a damper on the story's over-arching themes of not holding onto prejudice. But Hugo could contradict himself at times, like in his other novel, "The Man Who Laughs", in which he makes a beautiful case for emotional love and physical love both being needed for romance, that the love of the soul and body mirror each other, and then he proceeds to blame women for men's lusts by saying, and I'm quoting word-for-word here, "We slander the Devil. It was not he who tempted Eve; Eve tempted him. Lucifer was passing by quietly, he saw the woman, and became Satan." Like, seriously, Victor, what's up with that?
Disney is a shitty inhumane company. If you think what they did to the Indians was bad, look what they did to Star Wars!!! They're evil!
The poor girl. You really have a gift for pointing out how hard it must have been for her. Her mental health state must have been horrible.
As a Native American from a totally different tribe, the Ojibwe. I have to say this video was very well done and informative. It is sad that you could not monetize as I have read on your community post. I find it refreshing to have our history told with out the white washing both US and England among many other countries, has done to wipe away the dirty on its hands. Keep up the great work, a dedicated fan of your many videos and channels.
Wow. What a truly courageous and strong woman.
tears*
she was victims
It makes me sad when you here the whole story. And mad too. Her story has been romanticized. She was kidnapped, held hostage, raped, stripped of her identity, deprived of her child. She is truly a hero. To have gone through all of that and to known for your kindness and dedication to show the best of your people? I don't think I could do it.
she is a victim thats a fact
“Flagged for being offensive”...
I guess the words offensive & honest are now interchangeable.
I saw. That is just pathetic.
It’s legitimately not the truth, either, though. That might be why.
Also, as a descendent of her’s, it’s actually very hurtful when people misrepresent the love, marriage and child of her’s with Rolfe.
This is truly heartbreaking
*tears from start to finish but, one this is that she demonstrated compassion and with that gesture she's stronger than most who would've resolved this through violence... ... as for Disney.. hmph
Imagine living within your own world only for some surprise guests (not knowing they existed) to snatch you up and bring you into their world. It must have been mind blowing, scary, and heartbreaking to never see your family and community agaib
her story is so tragic. she was such a strong woman. I couldn't even imagine myself in her shoes.
I don’t know how Disney writer manages to make this story appropriate.
It's always easy to sell an idea to a gullible and uninformed audience. If there was enough public outcry over the movie it would've been canned and written off as a loss my friend. Disney owns part of the media (ABC and ironically the History Channel). They can almost filter out any truth we should know that can hurt their sales. Bottom line, money💰.
All they had to do was base it on John Smith’s version and call it fiction.
I see so many people defending it, I always get so annoyed. If Disney wanted that story so bad they should’ve done original characters instead of glorifying such a tragic story
Can you imagine if Disney's "Pocahontas" came out now and all the kids went to TH-cam to learn more and found this vid
Im 15 just saw Pocahontas for the first time and I knew something must be off and boom 1 day later I'm here
Which is exactly what my student did. As a Native American History Teacher, accounts like these are necessary because if I make these claims without corroboration from a white historian, I would be fired.
The Bratty Tarot wow, that’s so true smh
I realize that TH-cam demonitized this video because of its content. I just watched two ads on TH-cam that offended me more
you need ad blocker
youtube flagging this is the only reason I watched it. when are they going to learn?
I've never been so depressed. That poor woman
As sad as the story of her life was I’m so glad you told her story. Her suffering and tenacity need to be told truthfully
Being 50, I had NO CLUE of this. Thank you Simon. Can't be pissed with the way past civilizations handled behaviors. Very informative.
behaviors? What a farce!
You guys should do a video on Sacagawea
Agreed, oddly similar beginning but much better ending.
Yes! It's love that
In war, truth is the first casualty.
(Aeschylus 525 BC - 456 BC)
Simon your efforts at setting the records straight are a profound work of peace.
Thank you and Biographics for all of this.
Sorry to hear about the flag. Thank you for the amazing videos. You and your team put so much love and work into them and it shows
He got a flag? What for?
@@rolandoarauz-bryan1210 This video was flagged as offensive.
Still waiting for my Biograhics episode of Simon Whistler
That won't happen
Please!!!!!! 😉
I would love this
He said he will never do one
Victor Yau 😔😔
Damn. That was cold blooded.
Just found out that Pocahontas is my 14th Great Grandmother (through her child with Kokoum, not John Rolfe). Came here to find out more about her. I'm very saddened, but glad to know the truth, and glad that there are channels like this that put their time into informing and educating.
I am a descendant from her child with Kokoum as well! So incredibly fascinating.
She was violently abused and she never saw her homeland ever again
Well then cousins, nice to meet you. I'm a descendent of one of her many sisters!!!! I knew that the Disney version wasn't true, couldn't be, but was hopeful that this John Rolfe guy was good to her and they were happy but this is the first time I've heard this story and I am pissed!!!!
Damn this is depressing! I knew some of this, but even I learned details that were darker than I imagined.
Thank you for telling the truth
@Gary Daniel
Asians are consider white on the census...
Can't wait till Disney does the story of... Caligula How The Mad Emperor Got His New(KILLING)Groove On. I knew the true story before I saw this video. It is a great video.
Disney does Caligula! Ha so funny! Good one.
I love your sarcasm. Disney is so fake at times, remember that when you watch the news because they control what you get to
See in mainstream news.
Props for pronouncing Powhatan correctly.
This is so heartbreaking 😭💔
Thank you for telling the truth. I am an ancestor of Pocahontas, and the fact that some native tribes say she was a traitor to the native people, truly angers me. I always knew in my heart she was not. Thank you.
Pure evil. Of course TH-cam would suppress real history. @Biographics Thank you for your honesty.
Simon, to me at least, just the fact that you put so much effort into proper pronunciations, spellings, etc. speaks volumes about your own character and passion for truth and learning. You, Shell, and the rest of your team receive many kudos for the high quality content you produce, but I feel sometimes you are personally overlooked as the face and voice of the channel and some may not see just how much of your own heart is being invested and portrayed. So, KUDOS, Simon!
Isn't it about time that we all accepted the fact that none of the Disney stories are accurate?
What! You telling me that an actual mermaid with a singing lobster isn't real? How bout a flying Elephant, that's gotta be true!
"these white men are dangerous" - Chief Powhatan, Pocahontas (1995)
This is so sad😭I really hope she found peace in death
I’m so glad that you presented the real story of “Pocahontas”. It’s time someone told the truth about this and other things.
Thank you, again.
Good lord I knew this would be probably depressing. Now I’m crying about one of the movies I enjoyed as a child. I knew there was more and lots of fantastic fiction in it. Yet to know she was still a person beneath all the pain or scars she endured, she never broke. Truly a strong woman with tons of heart. Well done on this bio
Never stop telling it like it is. There's something about the way your presenter puts it that makes it compelling so don't stop.
I like how the Powhatans dealt with rape. Let's bring that back.
I like how we avoid talking about this in school because teachers are pressured not to ruin the Disney movie
As a Virginian that grew up on Matoaka Rd and attended school in the 80s I was always fascinated by the stories I was told in school books about Pocahontas. I didn’t learn the truth until high school. It was a moment that changed how I looked at the history I was being told in school books forever. Tragic story, and as a descendant of English settlers it makes me feel ashamed.
Andrew Olson
I don’t speak for other races, but the false history that John Smith portrayed and the way that woman was treated was shameful and disgusting.
I think any decent person would be ashamed of such behavior regardless of circumstance. I understand that looking back on history through the lens of modern times can certainly be tough, but what these so called “Christians” did to a teenage girl makes my stomach churn.
Redღ
I’m sure that every race and religion has something. This particular instance sticks with me for some reason.
So incredibly sad. It hurts. It’s much better to know the truth.
Preach the truth Simon...don’t be swayed...we love you for that!
Disney's Pocahontas is one of my favorite films of all time. I appreciate what you said about about them focusing on her wonderful qualities.
The true story is so horrific and it really tears me up to think of all the terrible things she endured.
Very informative, it's amazing how much Disney cut out
knowing this sure takes away any beauty from that baptism painting
Wow, what a revolutionary story! Sad, Tragic....but truthful and insightful
Could you please do a bio on Ip Man? Thank you :)
Hell yes
Why should they? You gotta give reasons
@@2sexyfomyshirt He was both the master of Bruce Lee and the main reason Wing Chun became famous. He deserves a bio.
I wasnt saying it to be mean. They said they would dismiss comments like this if they didnt have a reason
"White man came, across the sea. They brought us pain, and misery".
Points to anyone who knows that (painfully accurate) song.
Whether the English, the Spanish, or the Romans - we fought.
Run to the Hills.
Love the song
I appreciate the truth in this far more than any of other version.
These colonists had the nerve to call themselves "Christians"😒....
Let's be honest, they acted like devils. Their intentions and mindsets were selfish and evil.
My vote: Simon Wiesenthal "The Nazi Hunter"
Such an amazing story of a man who experienced 3 concentration camps, lost his whole family, and survived returning home with a fire in his belly, becoming the most well regarded War Criminal pursuer of our time.
Thanks for the amazing content ☺️
Dam straight
"On the day of liberation. I could not walk" He was an incredible human being.
Gipsy Danger we will see this through! Haha
i definitly second that!
Great idea.
Pocahontas was my favourite movie growing up - and still is. I was that little blonde haired blue eyed girl running around in a Native American dress singing to the wind.
Whilst I already knew the movie was inaccurate learning all this about is truly heartbreaking, and yet I still love her whole heartedly and still think she is the most amazing, strong woman.
Thank you for sharing her real story :)
I know you mean well but you wearing our dresses is culture appropriation.
How much brain dead you must be to belive in cultural appropiation?
Same I still appreciate and love the fictional version FICTION IS FICTION for a reason and this is coming from a NATIVE AMERICAN, proud of my surname Cornstalk. I STILL HATE THE FACT HOW THEY FORCED THEM INTO CHRISTIANITY, where they death threat people for embracing Paganism, and all other non- Christian belief, it still hits me to this day REPUBLICAN CHRISTIANS WOULD KILL IN THE NAME OF THEIR RELIGION if people says NO as YANDERE LIKE AS THEIR DEITY, who would torture because of rejection. I guess WE can DETACH how we feel between the fiction and reality. To me it SOUNDS WEIRD but it’s an accomplishment because not everyone has the ability to separate their feelings between fiction and it’s real stories.
@@cecebhabbie4316 ugh... loving and appreciating a culture vs. taking bits and pieces and discarding the rest are 2 very different things... and come on, are you seriously going to be offended by a little kid running around happily singing while wearing clothing from another's culture? Culture is meant to be loved and shared....
My mother loved the Pocahontas Disney movie, and we watched it often together. But from the first day I saw it, she always told me that this was a fairy tale and nothing like the real Pocahontas. I remember as a child that I thought it was weird that there ever had been a real Pocahontas, because I knew there was no real Snow White or real Cinderella. But the talking tree, being friends with a racoon and being able to understand english by listening with your heart was dead give away anyway. I understood that it was a fairy tale and not real.
It is sad that many parents don't take the time to talk to kids about the stories they are watching or reading. Mine didn't but like you, I considered it a fairy tale and went to the library to find the truth.
Great video. Left me sad and angry at what she had to endure, but that doesn't detract from the fact that it was informative and well presented, as always.
Wow, now I see that the true story has no connection to the Disney version! So very sad that I want to cry.
Love these vids. This one of the few channels that keeps my attention for the entire video.
Great video, Simon. Your work is valued and appreciated.
I've been waiting for this episode! Thank you!
Heartbreaking.
Very engaging content as always ❤️ Always fascinating.
Much sadder than the Disney version.
And, I’m sure, much more true to history.
That Thomas epilogue broke me! 😭
So happy to see my suggestion went through! This tragic story has somehow lost its historical spotlight but its great to see my favorite channel share it to the world. The video was amazing, a big thank you to everyone involved!
Don’t think Iv ever been so pissed off with any of these videos but this one makes my blood boil
I can't believe that Native Americans, men who lived in forests and who were supposedly savage, always believed that rape is a crime and never or very rarely did it, and punished anyone within their tribes who did it. Yet we British civilised men were allowed to do it and did it so many times for so long!?
Thank good I downloaded this. Again, great video Biographics team.
I thank you very much for this story..I never heard her story told this way (truthfully)..kéep up the awesome topics and videos!!!
I think if there is anything we can still appreciate about the movie, it's the music.
He couldn’t even give her a decent burial? That was cold…
"he made a mental note of it, and filed that away for later." Great foreshadowing.... sigh!
...but good effort finding a silver lining to close on. Love Biographics. :)
As an American who was raised with so many lies, I wish we would understand that past mistakes are best not forgetten, but remembered to learn from. The biggest mistake is pretending there wasn't one to begin with
Thank you!!! This biographic was very well done!!
never have i ever enjoyed listening to a full explanation of biography/history except in this channel
Poor Pocahontas, being born the chiefs daughter and beautiful became her curse instead of her blessing
Poor angel 😯
@Andrew Olson bad art doesn't mean that she wasn't, besides she was beautiful even if it's not by anglocentric standards.
I thi k she was beautiful by native American standards. She was abducted due to being the chiefs daughter rather than beauty. As the sicko she married said, hed of married a white girl who was easier on the eye. Beauty wasn't her downfall. Her high birth in the tribe was.
I expected the story to be much darker than what I'd learned in school or seen in the Disney film. Such things are. But it says something about her strength that she survived rape and went on to be the best person she could be in spite of all she'd been through. Thank you for this video.
This video got demonetized?? Bad TH-cam! Bad
Great vid! Sacajawea next?
Thank you for this video! Love learning something new everyday.
Yay, finally an episode on Pocahontas!! We did the Ancestry thing and discovered that Pocahontas was my 13th great aunt.
Really?! That sounds pretty cool!
DaidriveCJ Thank you:) We do think that this tidbit of family history is pretty cool. We always knew we were part Cherokee. We had not idea about our Powhatan heritage.
Her sister, Cleopatra, the one that accompanied her to England (I think) was my 13th great-grandmother.
I am also related
@@wellrose17 You too?! That is so cool! What are the chances?!
Quit Quasar Hello my cousin!!
I vow to watch 2 of your videos after this one to compensate for this one being demonetized. Thanks for the great content. Keep up the good work!
9:43 “Rolfe was a widower in his forties’.” His age is false. He was either 28 or 29 when he married Mataoka in 1614. He was baptized as an infant on May 6, 1585. He didn’t even live to be 40, dying of disease at the age of 37. You could have easily checked this but chose not to. Most of the rest was also conjectural or false.
This is correct!!! So many facts are actually wrong in this the illegitimate child was named Bermuda and died shortly after childbirth! Thomas was conceived and born within wedlock as was his later sister Elizabeth! Elizabeth only live to teens. They are my 12th great grandparents.
I don’t deny what happened to her was tragic and disgusting but a lot of this is factually incorrect.
I'll keep supporting you guys, i love your channel and your approach to history towards leaning
Very good job on this biographic. The truth is always better in the long run.
I knew John Smith was a liar. But I had no idea that John Rolfe was horrible too and she didn't even fall in love with him. I also didn't know Thomas lived to get back to Jamestown. I need to find a book with this kind of information.
Thank you biographics for telling her story.
First video I’ve found of yours, love!!! Thank you!!
Great video cant believe it was flagged. I had to search for it to see it but it was worth it.
This particular version makes total sense! Answers the questions we always asked back then in history class! Simon continue the good work!
Thank you for this excellent video.
I really loved your final words at the end, that is totally the way I would like to remember this story.
OMG :O your videos r so underrated and educational! Thank you!!
“Native Americans have a...”
Please keep in mind that natives belong to unique and individual tribes/nations. Implying all indigenous Americans used the same naming system is like referring to all Europeans as Catholic because the one European you happen to be talking about is Franz Josef.
*thinksaboutpochantasfordays*
“biographics open up”
Love this channel. Interesting, informative content presented honestly. Keep up the excellent work.
This Chanel, is truly 1 of my favorites !!!