@@RyneLandersthe C6 Z06 and ZR1 lapped faster around VIR then the R8 V10 of its time did… so in terms of performance, I’d say the R8 is lacking compared to a Vette of its era…
@@sleeper.simulant7327 I didn't say the Vettes couldn't outperform the R8, I said no one is cross-shopping a C6 and an R8. Nothing you said changes that. Do you think people are cross-shopping the C6 Vette and the Tesla Plaid because the Plaid is faster? 🤣
Celeritech setup sounds so freaking good and something I have not heard before. It would most definitely be the one if I owned a corvette and had the money for the Celeritech.
I drive a 2011 C6 Z16 LS3 6 speed manual with the GM performance exhaust (which I have added a switch to). I have never heard a Vette sound more like a Ferrari than the Celeritech, but for me it's the American V8 rumble that I love and will keep. Great video - your cam is having a huge impact on this sound comparison.
Celeritec 8-into-2-into-1, no question! The best of both worlds - the V8 grumble and the Formula 1 rasp and growl - who knew a pushrod V8 could sound this incredible ... and here I am months later, having watched the video at least 3 times now ... and by the way, I am not an American V8 guy ... or at least I wasn't until NOW (make that 4 TIMES)
I wish yall slapped on the resonated setup with those wild headers. Personally the first setup is what i would run. Still chopped hard but underload sounded nuts i loved it.
I’d personally go the throaty route BUT have the Celeritech 8-4-1 setup for sure. The difference in sound also has to do with the substrate density. As Borla says, “it’s like tuning a pipe organ.” Now that you have the bones of the exhaust system you can swap mufflers to tune the tone deeper, mellower or just run cut outs. So it’s a Jekyll and Hyde setup
@@redlion145 yeah like the old hot rodders used to do... Every car that has a "sport mode" or "track" has electronic valves. As for drone... everything drones, just depends on how much dynomat you have and what setup you have. All 4-8 DOD systems drone. Straight pipes on a daily isn't realistic either. The Spintech 6000 I have on my truck only drones at 25-30mph at like 1200-1400 rpm... at 1900 at 70mph its a mellow tone and you can still have a decnet converstion at normal volume... and it's side exit.
I think the appeal of the celeritech is that is such a different sound from a vett, but you can’t beat that traditional borla vett sounds. Top notch ls noise 🤌🏼
Man, I reallllly thought That flat-plane sounding exhaust was ittttt. But the Borla ALSO sounds fkn incredible. I like them both but I cannot decipher which one I like more.
That's the most beautiful, professionally designed exhaust system end-to-end I've probably ever seen (Celeritech). All the Calvin Elston high-speed exhaust magic. I wish they made one for C3 Corvettes. (They'd possibly sell 2 or 3; lol!) I vote to keep the Celeritech, but maybe get mufflers put on it to reduce the total sound output... It's WAY more unique and that high velocity and mid-range torque with increased cam overlap is just FUN! The torque you can use every day.
I’ve been waiting for a kit like this for ages. Corvettes have always had a high pitched scream on high rpm to me and that celeritec really helped amplify it. Reminds me of a destroked LS.
For science you should try the Celeritec set-up in combination with the Borla Atac catbacks. Given the options presented that is the set-up I would go with. Streetable but will still break necks and could be a great conversation starter with other car enthusiasts.
If you could slightly muffle or have a baffled system where you could make it quiet with the press of a button, the Celeritech would be my choice. Love that sound!
first video recommended by this channel . Pretty awesome video. However, why did they just explain that the difference is equal length vs un equal length headers. The burble American sound is from the unequal length. Its similar to why a flat 4 or a flat 6 has that same burble.
@@juangil5625 The American V8 burble is because cross plane V8s are odd fire, not even fire like a flat plane Ferrari or the new Z06. Cross plane v8s run in a pattern that always has two cylinders fire concurrently on each bank at some point (which even fire never does). This creates an audible effect similar to an unequal length header, but via a very different mechanism. In general, V engine headers are rarely *perfectly* equal length, as the front cylinders are further from the back of the car, but that's a small effect versus the cross plane engine configuration. Celeritech emphasizes equal length to specify that each runner has an identical length which does help scavenging when you're going as far into it as they are. Their specific sound comes from pairing the cylinders together to avoid the clash of exhaust pulses that help create the burble.
@@Slysdexia2 What are you even talking about? You can build equal length headers with paired cylinders for any V8 engine, regardless of whether it has a cross-plane or flat-plane crank. The wailing sound comes from joining both BANKS of the engine together, usually with an X pipe, but they have essentially created that via a merge collector making one giant long X that joins the banks into a single pipe, then spreads out again. The closer the merge of both banks to the engine, the higher the pitch. That is THE ONLY reason that exhaust sounds different, with the one that has the X pipe way further back. A flat-plane crank engine only sounds different because it is essentially like having two 4-cylinder engines bolted together.
@@dons1932 If you can't hear the difference between a cross plane V8 using an X pipe and a flat plane V8, I don't even know where to start. Yes a merge between banks changes sound on a cross plane V8, and quality X pipes at the correct merge angle can produce a noticeably higher pitch, but this does not change the fundamental odd-fire behavior of a cross plane V8.
completely agree with the comment about not liking at free rev on the Celeritech.. Thought the same. On the drive when in 3rd gear accelerating, it sounded fantastic, though! I wonder what the Celeritech system would be like with a highly tuned muffler to dampen it a bit. I think overall I like the Borla set up a little better for everyday, but something about that Celeritech under load...chef's kiss.
u can tell zac's preference from the revs alone hahahah his face shows it all. its insane to see the difference the exhaust system makes, never thought it could be this much. nice content. kudos
This is insane! I would love to hear what that setup would sound like on my LS7 at 7500 rpm. I'm not sure if I would like it more than my ARH 2" headers though
Not a ZO6, but "Piped up" on YT has a short of their LS9 ZR1 with the Celeritech and it sounds mint. The vid was posted 3 days ago named "ZR1 Corvette sounds like a Ferrari with new Celeritech exhaust!"
This is all done by pairing the right cylinders together, when going from 8 pipes, to 4 pipes. Once it’s dumped into a 4 into one collector, the exhaust pulses go down that one pipe, perfectly lined up. You get the 180 degree header sound, with half the amount of piping and complexity. This is absolutely brilliant.
I have a pontiac g8 with a ls9 and if I could get the celeritech,I would. It doesn't sound that great at free Rev, I agree, but it is such a unique sound under load, I like it. I like unique though. If you can stand out from the crowd, I like it, and that system does that.
I agree, I absolutely love the traditional sound, but every one and their mother has it, also the haters are probably too broke too afford it anyways. When they make one for the C5 I’m seriously considering coughing up the cash for a set because I have corsa sports which would go perfectly with it I think, no drone and a nice tone. I have muffler deletes as well which I would try first haha
As much as I like the change of the celeritec system and the mid-range power bump it gives, I agree with Vin that the Borla is the book definition of what a Corvette should sound like, plus there's something so American about the pushrod V8 sound that screams freedom
Neat how they grouped cylinders like the Gen 5 Camaro Z28 manifolds. Slip fit with springs is a great way to prevent cracking (GM splits the header flange too).
I have a Honda 175 with a custom exhaust from a company called Jemco. They specialize in megaphone motorcycle pipes. A tiny glasspack muffler may not seem to do much, but it mellows out the sound just right. Pure open pipes tend to sound blatty.
@@revsnrides8802not is not a ridiculous idea, the massive 4 into 1 collector on the celeritec exhauyhere isn't any bigger than a proper 8-into-1 collector, the designer said he was looking for the 8-into1 sound with his exhaust but it sounds nothing like an 8 into 1, that LS would have been screaming like a Ferrari but instead it sounds like a 4 banger
@@bryanmiranda1745 I raced in the early 90's against a Chev 427 river race jetboat with siamese 8-1 pipes with megaphones. That thing f-ing screamed! I compare the sound to ripping paper........ loudly lol.
@@bryanmiranda1745 180 degree headers and 8 to 1 are 2 different things. 180 degree headers takes up a lot of space because couple of the header runner needs to cross over to the other bank.
I love how the celeritec exhaust sounds like it shouldn’t be in the corvette but somehow sounds like it should be in there. Love both but like the first better.
I've gotta say the Celeritec for the win! That thing sounded nasty with that full Titanium setup, plus the low and midrange power gains are not to be ignored!!!!
I like that the celeritec system is equal length and efficient. I am running a similar homebuilt system on my centrifugal supercharged small block with off the shelf longtubes headers and a 3"-into-4" y-pipe to single 4". Mine still sounds more like a traditional v8. The legs on my y pipe aren't equal length and neither are my headers. But I feel like I do have an efficient system due to the packaging of a 4x4 pickup. Single 4" gives mine a deeper tone at idle. Edit: mine sounds great considering I've got about $400 in parts on mine.. compared to $7k for the celeritec system.
Celeritec sounds awesome! Really sounds special! I feel like I’ve heard a corvette with higher pitched exhaust somewhat similar to this, (maybe Lingefelter?)but not quite as exotic as this
That's tougher than a 2 dollar steak. 😂 I like the Borla while free revving and the chop is unmatched at idle. But the Celeritec sounds glorious tearing down the street.
Gotta go with the Celeritec imo. You get the refined higher revving V8 noises up top with the classic throaty rumble down low, it’s the best of both worlds
Absolutely. We have a 2006 Pontiac GTO that I installed stainless steal, Kooks long tube headers, high flow cats, X pipe, and kooks screamer mufflers. this GTO sounds phenomenal. It goes from a deep rumble to a high pitch like a formula one car.
It's a such tough choice, they both sound so good. In the end I gotta go with the Texas Speed setup. The Celeritec is super unique but the Texas tubes are like the platonic ideal of American V8 sound.
That stuff is nuts, and its crazy what they've been able to engineer just with exhaust! Its a shame that the midrange and overall volume dont quitw work yet, but I'm sure with time they'll figure something out! Now what I've been itching to find out for a while is how to make a modern LS sound more like an old metallic clatter small block from the 60s? Because even if you put similar exhaust, the way it chops and sounds is clearly an LS. Could you change header length with different lengths equating to a classic firing order? I'd love to know if its possible to get that old school sound!
@@wigletron2846 really depends, I've only ever heard one cam that sounded proper in an LS, but it still lacked a certain sound element I don't know how to describe...
@@wigletron2846 what I meant by that is the rhythm is there, but there's this tin-y clattery tone to exhaust on old muscle cars I'm trying to figure out
People REALLY sleeping on the effect of titanium over design as far as sound change. Titanium ALWAYS changes an exhaust node. I’m sure their design helped a little but most of that I guarantee was the material effect
Mannn, I’ve been wanting to do a higher pitch, more exotic sounding exhaust for my truck (especially since everyone’s sounds more or less the same) and it’s a for sure thing now after this video! I guess no one other than these guys can make a equal length, 4-2-1 header tho huh?!
There's usually SOMEONE making 4:2:1 headers for trucks, because they tend to help with that low and mid-range torque and MPG. Then you just need to merge the pipes from each bank into a single exit to get that sound. It's also easier to physically make a 4:2:1 header for a lower RPM application like a truck, as the tube lengths need to get shorter and shorter as your target RPM goes up, so they get harder and harder to physically fabricate.
So i had an idea for an exhaust to hopefully make a higher pitched sound, youd need to pinch the tubing and place a blade of some kind between them. Similar to putting a piece of grass between your thumbs and blowing to make a whistle
I love the Borla combo in sound. Almost wondering if they can add "mufflers" to the Celeratec that does the opposite of the ones they had.... mellow the high tone and keep a bit of the growl.
Celeritec exhaust just sounds wild. It sounds like a low displacement, high revving Ferrari motor rather than the burbling hubba bubba american v8. Definitely keep the Celeritec, that's an instant head turner once you put your foot in it.
The celeritec sounds like two straight piped 350z's in a perfectly synchronized drag race. That being said, I think coming from one car it sounds sick as hell.
Now I kinda wanna hear what it would sound like if you mixed some pieces from BOTH exhaust systems together!! Ya know, science & stuff. Who knows, ya might come out with an even more unique sound that’s even better some how. Only one sure way to find out… DO IT!!!
Love both but for me its gotta be that Celeritec. A corvette throwing out that high strung euro boy V8 sound is a mind fry but its worth it. Even if its for the Jizz your pants moments
There should be a way to cross the two designs by each side going 4 -2 - 1 and varying the lengths of each section and the crossover. I think it would be awesome if someone would make a series of similar but differing designs so we can hear all the different sounds we can make.
I’d like to hear the Celeritec system connected to the stock NPP valved mufflers….I think it’d make it nice and quite for driving and allow you the option of opening up to scare the children lol
I am a huge fan of 180 degree headers (the fancy exhaust is this design). They will be heavier than a traditional header when made out of the same materials, negligibly more performant, much easier to quiet down due to the ability to really target the annoying frequency ranges. I would love to see a Fourier analysis of the two exhaust setups. I bet with the right muffler you could have a car that sounds like a monster but won't wake up the neighbors and you can have a conversation while driving, all without sacrificing performance... except the few extra pounds of weight.
The Celeritech hands down sounds way better. I’m rocking Borla S type stingers after Kooks 1 7/8s & off-road X-pipe, with a 232/236/113+2 cam and Novi 1500 in a C5. My car sounds amazing at WOT but I’d swap in a Celeritech immediately if they made a system for the C5.
It’s like 80% flat plane sound, with 20% yank v8 bass rumble underneath it. Sounds sick!
At 2:22 he says the more traditional exhaust has equal length headers, but those definitely don't look equal length to me.
Exactly how I would describe it.
I thought I was the only one that thought at 30mph it sounds like a rotary
11:04 because fun seatbelts right?
@@heygek2769they always advertise equal but they aren't quite equal
12:14 Celeritech pull
16:26 Borla pull
Ah, a true gentleman
@borregoayudando1481exhaust or not, nobody is cross shopping a C6 Corvette and an Audi R8 😂🤣
@@RyneLandersI wish😂
@@RyneLandersthe C6 Z06 and ZR1 lapped faster around VIR then the R8 V10 of its time did… so in terms of performance, I’d say the R8 is lacking compared to a Vette of its era…
@@sleeper.simulant7327 I didn't say the Vettes couldn't outperform the R8, I said no one is cross-shopping a C6 and an R8. Nothing you said changes that. Do you think people are cross-shopping the C6 Vette and the Tesla Plaid because the Plaid is faster? 🤣
Celeritech setup sounds so freaking good and something I have not heard before. It would most definitely be the one if I owned a corvette and had the money for the Celeritech.
The Borla system
Agreed!
@@stevenraymer6682what?
@@stevenraymer6682Nah. Nothing I've heard sounds this good. Not even borla
That honestly has some old school 80s Ferrari v12 sound to it as well. Absolutely insane that the exhaust made it sound so different. I love it!
The borla definitely gives you a pure V8 sound 😍
The celeritech exhaust sounds better when driving 😍
The Celeritech exhaust sounds sick and so unique, I'll put my vote on that one for sure!
I would have loved to hear the muffler set up with the celeritech, never really was a fan with just straight pipes
I would also love to hear this
Exactly. I was waiting to hear the difference. He should then & all. Wouldn't of taken long to throw on.
I get the feeling this would sound the best
I’m guessing there’s barely any difference. You’d probably need actual resonator boxes to tame it, or some bends like the other system has.
@@Jonathan_Doe_ I think you’d be surprised I don’t expect to be quieter but I bet it would clean up the sound quite a bit
with how unique the celeritec system sounds it puts it leagues ahead imo
I drive a 2011 C6 Z16 LS3 6 speed manual with the GM performance exhaust (which I have added a switch to). I have never heard a Vette sound more like a Ferrari than the Celeritech, but for me it's the American V8 rumble that I love and will keep. Great video - your cam is having a huge impact on this sound comparison.
Celeritech exhaust sounds soo unique I’m always up for different sounds I’d go with them but add mufflers.
Celeritec hands down sounds better
I'm never that guy but... it's need a couple mufflers. Sounds dope though.
If the c8 sounded like that it would be amazing and unique in my mind
Agreed
@@geoffrymouser7031 yeah wish they had tried with the cat backs on the celeritech's.. but hands down sounds unique and would be a head turner.
the smiles says it all.
I'd really like to hear the Celeritech through the Borla "cat back" if they'd match up or just with a traditional straight through muffler.
SAME SAME SAME. I bet it sounds killer.
That Celeritec exhaust would go great with a C4 ZR1 with the LT5 engine.
Oh HELL YEAH! After intake porting and tuning 7k rpm shifts would sound crazy!
Nah
Hell yea!
It needs resonators
Celeritec 8-into-2-into-1, no question! The best of both worlds - the V8 grumble and the Formula 1 rasp and growl - who knew a pushrod V8 could sound this incredible ... and here I am months later, having watched the video at least 3 times now ... and by the way, I am not an American V8 guy ... or at least I wasn't until NOW (make that 4 TIMES)
It's 8-4-1 not 8-2-1
@@AnythingLoud Tom-ey-to Tom-ah-to! (kidding, I could've sworn it was an 8-2-1...)
That first exhaust fly by was insane and looked and sounded so much faster
I like the first one
I wish yall slapped on the resonated setup with those wild headers. Personally the first setup is what i would run. Still chopped hard but underload sounded nuts i loved it.
I was hoping they would as well.
@@snakerbyep dropped the ball
I’d personally go the throaty route BUT have the Celeritech 8-4-1 setup for sure. The difference in sound also has to do with the substrate density. As Borla says, “it’s like tuning a pipe organ.”
Now that you have the bones of the exhaust system you can swap mufflers to tune the tone deeper, mellower or just run cut outs. So it’s a Jekyll and Hyde setup
I've always known mismatched builds as Frankenstein setups. Jekyll and Hyde sounds like you've got exhaust baffles for flip-switch loud and quiet.
Tuned for a deeper tone if they can keep the drone to a minimum 🫡.
@@redlion145 yeah like the old hot rodders used to do... Every car that has a "sport mode" or "track" has electronic valves.
As for drone... everything drones, just depends on how much dynomat you have and what setup you have. All 4-8 DOD systems drone. Straight pipes on a daily isn't realistic either.
The Spintech 6000 I have on my truck only drones at 25-30mph at like 1200-1400 rpm... at 1900 at 70mph its a mellow tone and you can still have a decnet converstion at normal volume... and it's side exit.
Throaty all day, every day
I think the appeal of the celeritech is that is such a different sound from a vett, but you can’t beat that traditional borla vett sounds. Top notch ls noise 🤌🏼
Man, I reallllly thought That flat-plane sounding exhaust was ittttt. But the Borla ALSO sounds fkn incredible. I like them both but I cannot decipher which one I like more.
That's the most beautiful, professionally designed exhaust system end-to-end I've probably ever seen (Celeritech). All the Calvin Elston high-speed exhaust magic. I wish they made one for C3 Corvettes. (They'd possibly sell 2 or 3; lol!)
I vote to keep the Celeritech, but maybe get mufflers put on it to reduce the total sound output... It's WAY more unique and that high velocity and mid-range torque with increased cam overlap is just FUN! The torque you can use every day.
I’m all for the Celeritech exhaust. It’s waaaay different sounding to anything else out there which is why I love it
I’ve been waiting for a kit like this for ages. Corvettes have always had a high pitched scream on high rpm to me and that celeritec really helped amplify it. Reminds me of a destroked LS.
For science you should try the Celeritec set-up in combination with the Borla Atac catbacks.
Given the options presented that is the set-up I would go with. Streetable but will still break necks and could be a great conversation starter with other car enthusiasts.
If you could slightly muffle or have a baffled system where you could make it quiet with the press of a button, the Celeritech would be my choice. Love that sound!
Just don't floor it.
Celeritec sounds insane!! I’d love to hear it more mellowed out, maybe with cats to see what it would do in a more daily driver setup
first video recommended by this channel . Pretty awesome video. However, why did they just explain that the difference is equal length vs un equal length headers. The burble American sound is from the unequal length. Its similar to why a flat 4 or a flat 6 has that same burble.
@@juangil5625those were equal length long tubes.
@@juangil5625 The American V8 burble is because cross plane V8s are odd fire, not even fire like a flat plane Ferrari or the new Z06. Cross plane v8s run in a pattern that always has two cylinders fire concurrently on each bank at some point (which even fire never does). This creates an audible effect similar to an unequal length header, but via a very different mechanism.
In general, V engine headers are rarely *perfectly* equal length, as the front cylinders are further from the back of the car, but that's a small effect versus the cross plane engine configuration. Celeritech emphasizes equal length to specify that each runner has an identical length which does help scavenging when you're going as far into it as they are. Their specific sound comes from pairing the cylinders together to avoid the clash of exhaust pulses that help create the burble.
@@Slysdexia2 What are you even talking about? You can build equal length headers with paired cylinders for any V8 engine, regardless of whether it has a cross-plane or flat-plane crank.
The wailing sound comes from joining both BANKS of the engine together, usually with an X pipe, but they have essentially created that via a merge collector making one giant long X that joins the banks into a single pipe, then spreads out again. The closer the merge of both banks to the engine, the higher the pitch. That is THE ONLY reason that exhaust sounds different, with the one that has the X pipe way further back.
A flat-plane crank engine only sounds different because it is essentially like having two 4-cylinder engines bolted together.
@@dons1932 If you can't hear the difference between a cross plane V8 using an X pipe and a flat plane V8, I don't even know where to start.
Yes a merge between banks changes sound on a cross plane V8, and quality X pipes at the correct merge angle can produce a noticeably higher pitch, but this does not change the fundamental odd-fire behavior of a cross plane V8.
completely agree with the comment about not liking at free rev on the Celeritech.. Thought the same. On the drive when in 3rd gear accelerating, it sounded fantastic, though! I wonder what the Celeritech system would be like with a highly tuned muffler to dampen it a bit. I think overall I like the Borla set up a little better for everyday, but something about that Celeritech under load...chef's kiss.
u can tell zac's preference from the revs alone hahahah his face shows it all. its insane to see the difference the exhaust system makes, never thought it could be this much. nice content. kudos
Mix them together! Put the exotic headers and borla mufflers on!
That would be too quiet.
This is insane! I would love to hear what that setup would sound like on my LS7 at 7500 rpm.
I'm not sure if I would like it more than my ARH 2" headers though
i was thinking the same lol the 427 would sound nuts
Not a ZO6, but "Piped up" on YT has a short of their LS9 ZR1 with the Celeritech and it sounds mint. The vid was posted 3 days ago named "ZR1 Corvette sounds like a Ferrari with new Celeritech exhaust!"
This is all done by pairing the right cylinders together, when going from 8 pipes, to 4 pipes. Once it’s dumped into a 4 into one collector, the exhaust pulses go down that one pipe, perfectly lined up. You get the 180 degree header sound, with half the amount of piping and complexity. This is absolutely brilliant.
The first exhaust for sure. it sounds so insane.
I honestly enjoy the unique sound of the Celeritec, ive always enjoyed a car that sounds unique rather than like everything else
They both sound great. Either choice is good. Personally I would go with the better numbers. Low and mid range power improvements are where it’s at.
I'd agree in principle, but make it the best improvement(s) where the engine is being worked and I'd be 100% in agreement.
For a street car, 90% of the time you are driving in the low to mid RPM range. For street partying that’s where you want the gains.
Celeritec would sound even better on an actual flatplane LS, but you really cant beat that classic sound from the Texas Speed setup.
I have a pontiac g8 with a ls9 and if I could get the celeritech,I would. It doesn't sound that great at free Rev, I agree, but it is such a unique sound under load, I like it. I like unique though. If you can stand out from the crowd, I like it, and that system does that.
I agree, I absolutely love the traditional sound, but every one and their mother has it, also the haters are probably too broke too afford it anyways. When they make one for the C5 I’m seriously considering coughing up the cash for a set because I have corsa sports which would go perfectly with it I think, no drone and a nice tone. I have muffler deletes as well which I would try first haha
Feel like these C6 Vettes are aging really well...car is SICK, dig the new wheels too
Meh meh good, meh meh good seems to be the pattern with how vette generations look. So the C9 should be stunning.
@@Jonathan_Doe_are you having a stroke
The celeritec sounds insane, don’t know how much I like high rpm free revs but idol with the cam and high rpm pulls sound so gnarly and unique
As much as I like the change of the celeritec system and the mid-range power bump it gives, I agree with Vin that the Borla is the book definition of what a Corvette should sound like, plus there's something so American about the pushrod V8 sound that screams freedom
Neat how they grouped cylinders like the Gen 5 Camaro Z28 manifolds. Slip fit with springs is a great way to prevent cracking (GM splits the header flange too).
I have a Honda 175 with a custom exhaust from a company called Jemco. They specialize in megaphone motorcycle pipes. A tiny glasspack muffler may not seem to do much, but it mellows out the sound just right. Pure open pipes tend to sound blatty.
He should give 180° headers a try if he wants flat-plane-crank style sound
this is a ridiculous idea, The way it is now takes up less space.
@@revsnrides8802not is not a ridiculous idea, the massive 4 into 1 collector on the celeritec exhauyhere isn't any bigger than a proper 8-into-1 collector, the designer said he was looking for the 8-into1 sound with his exhaust but it sounds nothing like an 8 into 1, that LS would have been screaming like a Ferrari but instead it sounds like a 4 banger
@@bryanmiranda1745 I raced in the early 90's against a Chev 427 river race jetboat with siamese 8-1 pipes with megaphones. That thing f-ing screamed! I compare the sound to ripping paper........ loudly lol.
@@bryanmiranda1745 180 degree headers and 8 to 1 are 2 different things. 180 degree headers takes up a lot of space because couple of the header runner needs to cross over to the other bank.
@@veejay120793 180° headers are ONLY 8 into 1, you can't have them without it being 8 into 1, it's been done by many with less space than a C6
If the 'ferrari' setup could be quieted down in the low revs, but do the loud high rev, it would be perfect. It sounded EPIC!
Love the first exhaust but it needs mufflers.
Love the comment, but it needs mufflers. 🤫🤫🤫😂
@@SkarryTerrylove ur mom but it needs mufflers
Definitely needs mufflers, unless you like migraines.
@@ChicagoRob2also neighbors migraine 😂 definitely needs mufflers.
I like the celeritek but I had the 1 7/8 stainless flowteks LT’s to Borla Attak 3 inch on my ls3…
Texas Speed babyyyy! Thanks for da video! Mike in DFW
I love how the celeritec exhaust sounds like it shouldn’t be in the corvette but somehow sounds like it should be in there. Love both but like the first better.
Longtubes with Borla for me, even though I'd step down to their slightly milder S-type II axleback.
I've gotta say the Celeritec for the win! That thing sounded nasty with that full Titanium setup, plus the low and midrange power gains are not to be ignored!!!!
Cool video guys. Only thing that would have made it cooler would have been a dyno test with both 👍
I like that the celeritec system is equal length and efficient. I am running a similar homebuilt system on my centrifugal supercharged small block with off the shelf longtubes headers and a 3"-into-4" y-pipe to single 4". Mine still sounds more like a traditional v8. The legs on my y pipe aren't equal length and neither are my headers. But I feel like I do have an efficient system due to the packaging of a 4x4 pickup. Single 4" gives mine a deeper tone at idle.
Edit: mine sounds great considering I've got about $400 in parts on mine.. compared to $7k for the celeritec system.
Celeritec sounds awesome! Really sounds special! I feel like I’ve heard a corvette with higher pitched exhaust somewhat similar to this, (maybe Lingefelter?)but not quite as exotic as this
I’d run the fancy system with the borla catback
i kinda like the first one... it just makes a nice unique sound that no one really has
Celeritech - exiting, purposeful, eager, capable. Borla - classic, nostalgic, inefficient, underwelming.
Celeritech, gets my vote
That's tougher than a 2 dollar steak. 😂 I like the Borla while free revving and the chop is unmatched at idle. But the Celeritec sounds glorious tearing down the street.
Exactly my thoughts
Ima go ahead say it . Zach is my Spirit Animal 🔥💜💪🏼💪🏼
Plus that 1st exhaust kit is WILD! 🤯 Definitely the winner for me .
The celeritec is my choice. Sounds real crisp and sings in the higher rpm’s and it’s unique…
The Corvette C6 w Borla Atak exhaust is my dream car 🥵😍
Like lighting mcqueen said "hotter than a ferrari" celeritech all the way
Celeritec hands down....such a uniquely rad sound coming from a very familiar LS3!!!
So what you’re basically saying is that your prefer the typical Nissan 370Z V6 buzz over the bestial roar of an American V8.
@@BC08no it’s not quite Nissan V6 trumpets. You can definitely still tell it’s a v8
@@thetechlibrarian At wide open? You’d fail that blind test my friend.
@@BC08nah you would fail. Scrolling through the comments you're literally the only person I've seen say it sounds like a Nissan v6 lol
@@ellisjackson3355 In a blind sound test you would not identify the wide open throttle exhaust tone of this exhaust setup as a V8.
Gotta go with the Celeritec imo. You get the refined higher revving V8 noises up top with the classic throaty rumble down low, it’s the best of both worlds
Celeritec is the one for me because I want to sound different. They're both great, but I like to be a little more unique
Absolutely. We have a 2006 Pontiac GTO that I installed stainless steal, Kooks long tube headers, high flow cats, X pipe, and kooks screamer mufflers.
this GTO sounds phenomenal. It goes from a deep rumble to a high pitch like a formula one car.
I like both for different reasons but I'd also like to see a dyno graph of both systems.
It's a such tough choice, they both sound so good. In the end I gotta go with the Texas Speed setup. The Celeritec is super unique but the Texas tubes are like the platonic ideal of American V8 sound.
Definitely put that wonderful work of art made by Celeritec on the Vette. You deserve to one of the most insane sounding cars 🎉🎉🎉🎉
That stuff is nuts, and its crazy what they've been able to engineer just with exhaust! Its a shame that the midrange and overall volume dont quitw work yet, but I'm sure with time they'll figure something out!
Now what I've been itching to find out for a while is how to make a modern LS sound more like an old metallic clatter small block from the 60s? Because even if you put similar exhaust, the way it chops and sounds is clearly an LS. Could you change header length with different lengths equating to a classic firing order? I'd love to know if its possible to get that old school sound!
You need a cam if you want that old school chop sound out of an LS. Then basically any longtube headers will work.
@@wigletron2846 really depends, I've only ever heard one cam that sounded proper in an LS, but it still lacked a certain sound element I don't know how to describe...
@@badledgend1172 maybe you're looking for that carbed big block sound. That will always be hard to get out of an LS.
@@wigletron2846 what I meant by that is the rhythm is there, but there's this tin-y clattery tone to exhaust on old muscle cars I'm trying to figure out
People REALLY sleeping on the effect of titanium over design as far as sound change. Titanium ALWAYS changes an exhaust node. I’m sure their design helped a little but most of that I guarantee was the material effect
I love the production and care of detail put into this video! I enjoy more thoatty sound myself. The new thing to use Titainium is a great one.
Definitely interested in the Celeritec with mufflers. Should have swapped them on quick!
You need the Celeritech headers and collector into the borla car back then you have perfection
Mannn, I’ve been wanting to do a higher pitch, more exotic sounding exhaust for my truck (especially since everyone’s sounds more or less the same) and it’s a for sure thing now after this video! I guess no one other than these guys can make a equal length, 4-2-1 header tho huh?!
There's usually SOMEONE making 4:2:1 headers for trucks, because they tend to help with that low and mid-range torque and MPG. Then you just need to merge the pipes from each bank into a single exit to get that sound. It's also easier to physically make a 4:2:1 header for a lower RPM application like a truck, as the tube lengths need to get shorter and shorter as your target RPM goes up, so they get harder and harder to physically fabricate.
So i had an idea for an exhaust to hopefully make a higher pitched sound, youd need to pinch the tubing and place a blade of some kind between them. Similar to putting a piece of grass between your thumbs and blowing to make a whistle
Thanks for doing this. I've got a 2013 427 convertible and I've been contemplating new exhaust. This helps alot!!
I love the Borla combo in sound. Almost wondering if they can add "mufflers" to the Celeratec that does the opposite of the ones they had.... mellow the high tone and keep a bit of the growl.
That would defeat the whole purpose
Celeritech for sure! Did you try it with the Celeritech mufflers that Zach dropped?
Celeritec exhaust just sounds wild. It sounds like a low displacement, high revving Ferrari motor rather than the burbling hubba bubba american v8. Definitely keep the Celeritec, that's an instant head turner once you put your foot in it.
does having a double x pipe provide a similar affect?
Celeretech for sure 😮.
That exhaust makes a Corvette sound so unique. Good luck 🍀👍 not getting noise complaints though. 😂🎉
Both sound insane, Definitely a great comparison on how different exhaust setups will sound 🤟🏼🦅
I wish we could have heard the first one with the mufflers. That system sounds insane
The celeritec sounds like two straight piped 350z's in a perfectly synchronized drag race. That being said, I think coming from one car it sounds sick as hell.
That sounds really good! Definitely an exotic sound
Now I kinda wanna hear what it would sound like if you mixed some pieces from BOTH exhaust systems together!! Ya know, science & stuff. Who knows, ya might come out with an even more unique sound that’s even better some how. Only one sure way to find out… DO IT!!!
Both of the fly bys....amazing sounding!
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Love both but for me its gotta be that Celeritec. A corvette throwing out that high strung euro boy V8 sound is a mind fry but its worth it. Even if its for the Jizz your pants moments
Too bad it's not available and the company doesn't respond to emails. 😢
Liked the artsy part of muffle fabrication, subscribed for the effort on technical analysis on those power curves 👍 fell for the end result at 11:00 😍
There should be a way to cross the two designs by each side going 4 -2 - 1 and varying the lengths of each section and the crossover. I think it would be awesome if someone would make a series of similar but differing designs so we can hear all the different sounds we can make.
Both nice but I'd have the Celeritec, it's so unique.
I’d like to hear the Celeritec system connected to the stock NPP valved mufflers….I think it’d make it nice and quite for driving and allow you the option of opening up to scare the children lol
Sounds like a stock F360
Oh that would of been a nice 1 to try. Bummer didn't put the resonators on the celeritec
11:33 sounds like rotory engine that sick dude 🔥
Can you do a video with a 180 degree setup? Not even sure if one exists for the LS3 - that will give a great FPC sound.
Dudeeeee awesome sound! That’s how it’s suppose to sound. Celeritech for the win 100%
Zak videos are always fire.
Flat plane sound all day!
I am a huge fan of 180 degree headers (the fancy exhaust is this design). They will be heavier than a traditional header when made out of the same materials, negligibly more performant, much easier to quiet down due to the ability to really target the annoying frequency ranges. I would love to see a Fourier analysis of the two exhaust setups. I bet with the right muffler you could have a car that sounds like a monster but won't wake up the neighbors and you can have a conversation while driving, all without sacrificing performance... except the few extra pounds of weight.
The Cel exhaust isn't 180 degree. That involves pairing cylinders from one bank to another.
The Celeritech hands down sounds way better. I’m rocking Borla S type stingers after Kooks 1 7/8s & off-road X-pipe, with a 232/236/113+2 cam and Novi 1500 in a C5. My car sounds amazing at WOT but I’d swap in a Celeritech immediately if they made a system for the C5.
The refined celeritec does make it more unique and it’s still plenty loud at idle