Another big factor in Delta's decision was that Boeing didn't like Delta buying the A220, which they saw as a competitor to their smallest 737. Boeing cried to the US Dept. of Commerce, lobbying them to impose a 300% import tariff on each A220 sold in the US! They didn't want Delta to receive a superior aircraft at a lower price than Boeing's 60-year-old design. Airbus responded by building a factory in Alabama for the final assembly of some A220 and 320 models. Delta responded by not ordering more Boeings. And for the uninformed folks who think Boeing is a US company and Airbus is European, learn facts. Both are multinational companies with parts built in dozens of countries. They have to be because various nations won't buy the airliners unless workers in their countries are paid to produce some components.
Ironic that the hottest Airbus is a plane but designed by Airbus. Obviously it’s the A220 from Bombardier. Either way the MAX 7 isn’t anywhere near certification (which is killing Southwest) so the A220 wins in availability as well
The accidents of Lion Air and Ethiopian were caused by pilots who did not know how to handle the plane. BTW an Air Canada flight cancelled the other day in Denver. Why? Engine problem. It was a A220. Airbus....😮
@@JS-gt5bh Well, you got that wrong. Boeing designed a crappy "fix" for an overly modified airplane, and they were cheap enough not to include backup sensors. This is well documented. If it had been crew error, the FAA wouldn't have grounded the type for a year. To their credit, they insisted that Boeing solve the problem.
What’s really funny is that I took a Scrum certification course, and one of our Agile projects was to define a commercial airliner’s product features for something that would “wow” the airlines. What we came up with just spitballing for an hour was something very similar to the A220, because the fundamental problems the A220 solves are commonplace across the airlines. Boeing complaining about a product that’s similar to the old MD80/90/Super 80 smaller jets that they could easily build again (especially after their acquisition of McDonnell Douglas) is ridiculous. When a company fails, it has no one to blame but itself. If 90% of the competition can do what they can’t, it’s a company culture problem, not a technical innovation problem.
They are not cutting corners as a company's policy. Their CEO is an engineer, not an accountant. Their HQ is based right by a tarmac overlooking production lines. What else do you want Boeing trash boy?
Airbus isn't cutting corners as company's policy. Its CEO is an engineer, not an accountant. Their HQ is by a tarmac overlooking production lines. How does it sound for a start?
Although I'm no fan of the 787, this presentation has multiple errors on that, starting at about 1:24. The first fire incidents were in January of 2013; one was JAL, and the other was ANA. These incidents caused the grounding. The Ethiopian Airlines incident was 6 months later - in July of 2013. That fire had nothing to do with the ship's two primary lithium-ion batteries. It was caused by a faulty ELT battery. That was also lithium-ion, but that same ELT battery is also installed in many other types of airliners. It's not unique to the 787.
The basic 737 design is decades old and the latest generation of engines didn't really fit it. Instead of designing a new plane to go with the new designs of engines, Boeing tried to adapt the old 737 to save costs whereas Airbus came up with totally new designs of planes. This is the fundamental issue of the current 737 designs - the entire plane needs a re-design but Boeing were chasing profits not good products, and look where it's gotten them
Airbus came up with totally new designs of planes? The A320 is a 40 year old program. The A330neo is based on the 50 year old A300. The A300B9 was the original designation of what would become the A330. Airbus has come up with two new clean sheet designs since 2000: The A350 and the A380. Boeing came out with one…the 787. Neither has produced a new clean sheet design of a narrowbody in decades. The A220 doesn’t count…that was already done by Bombardier - an excellent purchase decision but still not their design.
These are NOT the reasons Delta has moved toward Airbus in the wide-body market and to a lesser extent the NEO in the narrow-body sector. Delta moved towards Airbus after the Northwest Merger, which was long before any of Boeing's issues posed up. Northwest was heavily Airbus, and Delta received heavy discounts for be a mainline US carrier to stick with them. all these issues you mention, yet say nothing about common Airbus problems like stuck control surfaces, major Pratt engine problems (not a cause of Airbus of course). They also plan on retiring the A319, and A320 for the 737 MAX and A321NEO. Delta has also decided, and stated that they want to be a launch customer for the Boeing NMA if and when it is ever launched.
Boeing was dumping on Delta long before the current flood of Boeing problems. As a retired Delta pilot, I've heard several stories from Line Check Airmen who occasionally met with Richard Anderson on the topic. When one asked him about Delta trying to rejigger Northwest's 787 orders, Anderson became visibly angry and refused to say anything. ... Other things as well. I know Delta will still consider Being offerings, but Boeing has lost a lot of sales from Delta over their past stupid treatment of Delta. Delta has fired some shots across the Boeing bow.
Many of the examples you give are engine related or in some cases, more of an airline maintenance issue….such as a wheel falling off. To lump all that into Boeing’s actual “structural” issues, is misleading
It's Boeing's own fault for losing sales. They discontinued the 757 which Delta STILL flies,and regularly updates. They also never built the NMA 797 Delta was looking into. The Airbus fleet was inherited from NW. But it's telling that Delta never had it's own 787 order, and eventually cancelled Northwest's.
The 757 had been dead in the market since about 2000. It was THEN (in 2004/05) that Boeing ended the production in Renton and scrapped the machinery (to create more space for the 737). DELTA is telling some things while it does others. The true mantra of the fleet strategy of DELTA over the last decade or so has been massive SIMPLIFICATION. They retired the last "old" DC-9s in 2014, the 747 in 2017, the "non-ER" 767-300 in 2019, and in the "extinction year" 2020 all 777s, all MD--80s and -90s, and the first sub-family of the 737 NG (i.e. the -700). Over the last few weeks, apparently the demise of the 757 has begun, with the inventory fallen from 111 to 109 units. At the same time, brand new A321neos arrive at a rate of between two and four a month. DELTA executives love to pay lip service to Boeing, and they praised the (purely fictional) "797". In the meantime they operate more and more 'busses out of Seattle.
OF COURSE Delta’s CEO had to say they love Boeing’s aircraft: he don’t want to be the person that kills the last commercial airplane manufacturer in the US. BUT… his actions show us his true thoughts about Boeing.
Airbus will not want Boeing out of business, they cannot meet the airline demand and the airlines are not going to pay to retrain and modify their entire pilot and engineering crews. Not to mention the supply chain that feeds the airline’s engineering teams. Boeing needs to rebuild its trust not only with the flying public, but more importantly with the airlines. Airbus will be top dog for at least 10 years while Boeing rebuilds the damage its naive executives have done to a once great manufacturer.
Corporate greed has brought down a lot of once great manufacturers. I have no doubt in my mind that Boeing can and will get it together. They need to start at the top with it's engineering team while focusing on implementing better QC checks on the production floor and once they become more sustainable then focus on ramping up production. It needs to be in that order to be successful, safety, quality then efficiencies.
Maintenance issues are not the problem of the manufacturer. The recent problems experienced by United are all maintenance issues and are not Boeing's responsibility. This is like blaming car manufacturers for crashes due to drunk drivers.
Are you claiming that Boeing doesnt have issues in its manufacturing process. Both the 737 max and 787 are throught with issues with the design and manufacturing process. Both companies airbus and boeing are experiences with engines but thats more of an issue with P&W.
>Before the merger, Boeing was an engineering focused company; after merger with a company that was clearly focused on profit the merged company put profit before engineering. Assembly workers who raised safety concerns were condemned or even fired. It has not veered from that position. Make the leaders of a company responsible for corporate failures and that policy will be corrected. >This is the same pattern everywhere now, whether it is Wall Street, manufacturing, internet corporations. When there is no accountability there will be failure that will continue with impunity. These are the kinds of habits that signal the decline of a nation, or culture. We are on the downside.
Delta is already a huge operator of Airbus planes once it merged with Northwest Airlines, who already had a substantial A320 and A330 fleet at the time of the merger. Because of the experience of Delta with Airbus airliners, buying more A220's, A320neo Family planes, A330-900neo's and A350's over the next 20 years.
At the end of the day, at this time, Airbus is the better company. Better run with a superior product designed to serve both airlines and the people who travel on airliners. Boeing's arrogance in the way they, along with the Trump Government, sought to destroy Bombardier was telling. Boeing cares not how they achieve their maximum profits. If silly Boeing had bought the C Series, now A220, they would at least have a superior aircraft and the highly experienced Montreal workforce. My gut tells me this workforce could have been utilized to instruct less experienced Boeing workers. That said it is likely the Boeing workforce suffer mostly from CEO and Boardroom cost cutting. Demoralizing a workforce will and has led to horrible consequences for travelers and Boeing.
Boeing's pursuit of profit before safety is coming back to bite them on the arse/ass regardless of whether this video is clickbait or not. Safety is the top priority for almost all passengers and pushing it down your own list of priorities as a company will cost you in the aviation industry.
Even if both Airbus and Boeing were totally identical with manufacturing quality and technology. If either of them get sloppy with maintenance, it obviously creates a danger for anyone who is on it. So the question is, who is more likely to be meticulous with the maintenance of their aircraft, Boeing or Airbus? What about pilot and air crew training when any changes come around? The pilots of the 2 doomed 737 crashes were not even notified of the changes the engineers made when they took off, never mind training them for it. I’ll put my money on Airbus.
Maintenance of aircraft is usually the task of the airlines, while the OEMs (i.e. Airbus and Boeing respectively) sell the spare parts (that by themselves may be subject to upgrades in design, manufacturing and certification). Engine manufacturers OTOH also go for long term maintenance contracts.
I downloaded an app online that allows me to book flights without flying on any Boeing aircraft. The board of directors at Boeing have destroyed a once great company for their own personal greed. Disgusting management.
You're obviously an insider...no? So you get your information from......the outrage click?....or other "noble and altruistic' people with a crap opinion or experts as they like to call themselves.
Wheels & tires falling at takeoff, blown doors, cracked wind shield and more serious safety damages, including deaths!! It’s not a good look for such a great company. I don’t blame Delta Air Lines switching to Airbus before something else goes very wrong.
This video exagerates problems as all being "Boeing" not to mention a click bait title. Wheels fall off of every brand of plane. In regard to engine fires, Boeing does not make engines. Etc Etc. Sure they have had too many issues but to make them look even worse is unfair. I have flown on these jets all my life and have never had a problem.
I totally agree that these Boeing issues are plainly bashing against Boeing. Boeing tries to cut costs, but make no mistake, Airbus has or will have the same issues. It seems highly coincidental that Chinese COMAC has started entering the market and will try everything to go against the two giants.
Spirit is reporting their recent losses on Airbus delivery delays and engine issues. You can find a great deal of knowledgeable videos on TH-cam and then you can also find channels like this that just like to prove they don’t actually know anything without telling you they don’t know anything. Let’s talk about the MAX crashes even though Delta was already turning very much towards Airbus prior to those crashes happening. Let’s also talk about the recent Alaska incident even though Delta had already placed an order for 100 MAX prior to Alaska.
An absolutely disingenuous analysis. While there is no doubt Boeing has suffered following the acquisition of McDonnell Douglas, to include outright maintenance issues like you have done here is just plain wrong. Batteries, tires, engines, engine cowlings are not manufacturing issues. Hold Boeing accountable for their many issues, but don't try to indict the company for issues well beyond their control. #Disgusted with FLG AVIA
I’m good with Delta moving towards Airbus. They build superior aircraft. I was a Boeing fan boy for years but after experiencing the A220 and A350 my mind has changed. Then came the MAX and that was the straw that broke the camels back for me. I’m flying next week and am travelling with JetBlue. I am paying more than I could but selected JetBlue because there is no chance of a Boeing being used. Flying on a MAX in my view is akin to having a death wish.
@@MetroDoc-he8zd True, but most of them are still old good Boeing: 717,757,767. Turning into Airbus will take a long time and I'm sure they will keep Boeing aircrafts in theyr fleet too
@@panam747 True, but please read my previous post. Moreover the title of this video is Delta says goodbye, not that they have an Airbus fleet from now on
I definitely wouldn't consider myself a Boeing fan, but let's be honnest, Delta has 519 Boeing aircraft in their fleet (while they *only* 466 Airbus aircraft) with another 100 Boeing 737 MAX 10s on order (and another 223 Airbus aircraft). I would hardly call that "Delta saying goodbye to Boeing"
Sure, they won't (can't) dump the Boeing section immediately, although, it can be a remarkable sign when the order book for Boeing products will be thrown in the trash can.
Yes, Delta is shifting more towards Airbus, but they are far from becoming an all Airbus Airline and the likelihood of it happening is small. They have the 100 737-10 on order, but also they have more than 160 737-900ER that won't go anywhere anytime soon. Plus the 21 767-400ER that will be part of the fleet until at least into the 2030s. On top of the MAXes I can absolutely see Delta ordering the 787-10. Their widebody orders so far do not cover the whole fleet that needs replacement, and the 787-10 is a perfect fit. Also Delta repeatedly states that they are very interested in a Boeing 797/MOM. If Boeing launches this one maybe later this decade I can see Delta jumping on it.
I don't think they would be interested in the 787 anymore. The A330neo is one factor, and I don't see them placing orders after cancelling a previous 787-8 order in 2016. So as far as widebodies are concerned, they are more definitely comfortable with the A330neo and A350. Might hope they order A330-800neo after their A350-1000 order, though more -900neos could also be possible.
@@vitoaditya8337 787-8 is one thing, 787-10 another, also 2016 is one thing, 2024 another story. Airlines are upgauging capacity of airplanes all over the place, the A330-300s will be due for replacement starting from the late 2020s/early 2030s. They could sure order more A330-900s, but first the A330-900 means zero increase in capacity and second a huge airline like Delta needs to diversify and cannot rely only on one manufacturer. The 787-10 is a CASM beast on routes up to around 10 hours, which is most of the routes across the North Atlantic. So the 787-10 is the perfect plane for all those higher demand transatlantic routes, for example those into the Sky team Hubs AMS, CDG etc. Also it hauls a significant amount of cargo. I am very certain Delta will go for the 787-10 midterm.
@@jhca4671 the 787-10 does not have a range issue. It was built to be a people mover on routes up to 10/11 hours, and it does this extremely well. With slight payload restriction it can even fly shorter transpacific routes, with the latest MTOW bump even without restriction. Delta does not need a 787-10 which is able to do 14 hour missions, for those missions it has A350-900s. However on these shorter Transatlantic routes the 787-10 is more efficient than the A359, and this is where is makes sense to operate both, which many airlines do.
@@panam747true but Boeing is really mired in a mess of their own making. Even if you dismiss the problems they are having, they cannot get aircraft certified or delivered. MAX 7? Sorry Southwest! MAX 10? Sorry United! 777x? Sorry Emirates!
Can’t understand American quality!! It needs to stop being more about the money. The US is all about money not about people. You see this from Healthcare to Manufacturing.
Delta Airlines is an aviation industry "Bell Weather" of trends. Several decades ago, Delta flew only McDonnell-Douglas aircraft. They were McDonnell-Dougla's largest customer. Then, they dramatically turned away from McDonnell-Douglas, ending their close relationship, and turning to Boeing. Now, the "Bell Weather" is ringing again. Is this the "Death Nell" for Boeing?
First, grounding individual planes for issues unique to that plane is ultra-common. In fact, it's one of the reasons flights get delayed. Second, the vast majority of issues this AI listed are maintence problems that groundcrews are supposed to be identifying and fixing. That's an airline issue.
The primary reason for Delta‘s MAX 10 order is its existing hundreds of pilots and MRO network established for 737. The make in USA label also helps. Delta is large enough to maintain duopoly suppliers for its feet. Of course, if the A320 supply isn’t so tight, Delta probably will order more Airbus planes. Delta has been very shrewd in managing its fleet operation and renewal, much better than United and American. Both airlines are banking on B787 for its wide body fleets. B787 is a fine plane but with smaller capacity and is not well suited for slot restricted high volume routes. A350 offers a superior customer experience than B787, not to mention the manufacturing and quality issues associated with B787.
What about maintenance ? Once a product has been delivered, the airlines are having to take a lot of responsibility how the aircraft is being cared for. These days, even the ordinary customer is unpacking goods, throwing the manual in the bin with the packaging, hoping everything is set for selfcare, not even reading the section of possible warnings. Rudyard Kipling, an author from Victorian times, famously wrote "The Secret[...] of the Machines". One of the concluding verses should be learn by everyone, worldwide: "[...] But remember, please, the Law by which we live, We are not built to comprehend a lie, We can neither love nor pity nor forgive. If you make a slip in handling us you die ! [...]
_"Delta Airlines used to be one of the major operators of Boeing aircraft from the _*_early stages_*_ of the airline starting in 1970 when Delta received its first Boeing jetliner, the 747..."_ *1970* is hardly the _early stages_ of an airline that was founded during the pre-Depression era. Delta was historically a big *Douglas Aircraft* (later McDonald Douglas) operator. The airline rostered the world's largest fleet of *Lockheed* aircraft, and acquired its first *Airbus* aircraft from the defunct Pam Am early during the 1990s. Delta has historically operated fewer Boeings as a percentage of their total fleet, than either American or United.
I hate when people post videos about companies and people that they know nothing about . 😮 I grew up in the 70's and 80's and my mother was also a school teacher. In the "old" days when we had to write reports for classes, we did something called "research "! 😱 That mean't going to the library, checking out books on a subject, reading old newspaper and magazine articles, consulting the World Book Encyclopedia, watching news stories, or even writing letters to, or calling the actual person or entity to get information. People these days are too lazy to be bothered with such things. The news media no longer does it either. It used to be called investigative journalism. 🥺 Many airlines have official websites where you can get an accurate historical account of the company. When I interviewed with Delta for a position, one of the questions was, "what do you know about the company"? and the interviewer was shocked that I knew information, that most people don't know unless they do their homework. Posting inaccurate information makes them look stupid and it's an insult to those who know the truth. 😒
You're going off of new news about Boeing when Delta already had Airbus 330-900's and A350's on order for the past 3 years. With a new recent order for the Airbus 3300-1000's this past summer. All of this happened before all the Boeing news. Delta has orders in for 100 of the 737-10 MAX since July 18, 2022 and has options for 30 more on top of the 100 ordered. This is flat out Click bait!!! I'll be sure NOT to subscribe to opinions, not facts.
I agree. This is the result when you let AI write and speak scripts for videos. The person behind this probably knows absolutely nothing about planes. It was all written by the Chat GPT bot.
Oh gee wiz, wasn’t it a Delta A-350 which had just pulled up to the gate at sea-Tax erupted into flames from under the cockpit. If that had been a B-787 it would have required a total grounding of every single 787. But since it was an A-350 which is perfect, not a word has been heard from Ed Bastion or any of the other Airbus lovers.
Is this video about maintenance issues of Boeing aircraft (Airbus has them too) or about Delta? Other than the 737's that Delta is buying Boeing doesn't have an aircraft that fits their need. Boeing screwed themselves by not having a 757-max or new engine option like the A-321's.
Easy way to clean-up Boeing. Same way in Australia we get random alcohol & drugg tested while driving, the FBI should walk into Boeing's Everett WA factory & just randomly test people 2 or 3 days a week. FBI & the FAA walk into the Boeing factory with the same equipment police in Australia, breathalyzers & lick sticks, use to screen drivers for alcohol & substances on the side of the road & randomly test the workers... EVEN THE BOARD MEMBERS. Randomly test the girls at reception too.... TEST EVERYBODY. We rely on planes to get us to our loved ones over vast distances, for me it's the Pacific Ocean. So FBI & FAA, start the random screening.... Flash your badges & walk in & start screening.
Good!! Maybe if United and American would tell Boeing to "get lost", they might clean up their act and become an industry leader again. They don't care about lives but they care about money.🥺
Smart move. Ditch boeing with their zero-quality management system and move to a supplier who does understand the importance of quality management and who does not sub-contract manufacture of major aircraft parts to other companies.
Important to keep in mind minor issue happen all the time. There are thousands of flight a days, so a few minor issues is expected. Aircraft are designed to deal with failure and keep passenger safety as high as possible. (That being say Boeing still need to improve)
Minor issues like deceit, not telling airlines about MCAS. Minor issues like being investigated by the FBI and then conveniently losing the documentation concerning door plug fitting, both paper and digital. Minor issues like fires. EEAS are considering the rejection of FAA Certification for Boeing making it invalid for Europe. Minor issue?
@@kevinrichard100 "Minor issues like deceit, not telling airlines about MCAS. Minor issues like being investigated by the FBI and then conveniently losing the documentation concerning door plug fitting, both paper and digital. Minor issues like fires." Obviously those are not minor issues and is unacceptable. but many of the issue cited above had nothing to do with boeing manufacturing. >EEAS are considering the rejection of FAA Certification Well i would be good if the FAA face justice they had audited and validated Boeing process for years yet they are not accountable somehow?
Some of the Boeing incidents were due to poor maintenance which was the airlines fault and not Boeing. That said, Bean Counters (we hate you) RUINED Boeing.... Put engineers back in charge of the Boeing company
Depends on 1) which manufacturer's planes they were first trained on and 2) which one they've spent the majority of their flight hours piloting. Since it is literally impossible for a pilot to have had their first flight ever training on both a Boeing and an Airbus plane, that influence is 'lock-in' so to speak. I've also never met a pilot that has as many hours flying either one as they do the other. So no 'piloted Boeing with 5000 hours' and 'piloted Airbus 5000 hours'; oh, and those hours would have be kept even the entire time, so Boeing 100 hours would have immediately be followed by Airbus 100 hours. It all comes down to familiarity and expectations. Boeing pilots expect to have their piloting column between their legs, while Airbus pilots expect to have a control stick either their left or righthand side. Same with placement of displays, switches, and the like.
The credibility and veracity of this and other aviation video productions of this prolific channel would be greatly enhanced by using a human narrator! The AI's pronunciation and syntax errors are so obvious and jarring as to seriously undermine the believability of the whole production! I prefer human ingenuity and expert analysis in this highly technical field of endeavour, to that of ChatGPT type mashups! 🛩 🛬 🛫 ✈️ 🛩 🛬 🛫 ✈️ 🛩 🛬 🛫 ✈️ 🛩 🛬
At 04:05 a United Boeing B737-8 (MAX) while landing at Atlanta experienced ...stuck RUBBER pedals...''! 'How worrisome! 🛩 🛬 🛫 ✈️ 🛩 🛬 🛫 ✈️ 🛩 🛬 🛫 ✈️ 🛬 🛫 🛩
Boeing is such a shit company, safety should be absolute priority above profitability. A manufacturer shouldn't cut costs, especially when it comes to maintenance. I don't think they care about people just the $$. 🖕
I'd like to see Airbus get the anal probe Boeing gets and yes Airbus has issues but they cover them very quickly and the EuroTrash won't play this stupid self loathing American BS "we" put ourselves through because we are just that much smarter than everyone....sigh. What ever happened to the rusting wing roots on the A380? When those A350 paint jobs came off the Qatar Airlines jets they said not a problem but when Qatar said the one jet had 900 places where this had happened an Airbus elitist pig started talking down to Qatar Airlines as if they were over reacting because they are just stupid Bedouins. Turns out a few Dreamliners had a similar issue to a much smaller degree and Boeing had an immediate fix, no muss no fuss AND no credit for its customer service and may I say SAFETY unlike Airbus.
That's why Mr. Clickbate Delta ordered lots of Max planes. Do your homework! DL gets what it can get cheap and has only 240 737s, and it's waiting for more!
That order is under review as Boeing is not in compliance and cannot deliver on their end. Delta would love to have MAX 10’s but obviously that’s not happening any time soon. They can cancel their order.
Another big factor in Delta's decision was that Boeing didn't like Delta buying the A220, which they saw as a competitor to their smallest 737. Boeing cried to the US Dept. of Commerce, lobbying them to impose a 300% import tariff on each A220 sold in the US! They didn't want Delta to receive a superior aircraft at a lower price than Boeing's 60-year-old design. Airbus responded by building a factory in Alabama for the final assembly of some A220 and 320 models. Delta responded by not ordering more Boeings. And for the uninformed folks who think Boeing is a US company and Airbus is European, learn facts. Both are multinational companies with parts built in dozens of countries. They have to be because various nations won't buy the airliners unless workers in their countries are paid to produce some components.
Ironic that the hottest Airbus is a plane but designed by Airbus. Obviously it’s the A220 from Bombardier. Either way the MAX 7 isn’t anywhere near certification (which is killing Southwest) so the A220 wins in availability as well
The accidents of Lion Air and Ethiopian were caused by pilots who did not know how to handle the plane. BTW an Air Canada flight cancelled the other day in Denver. Why? Engine problem. It was a A220. Airbus....😮
@@JS-gt5bh Well, you got that wrong. Boeing designed a crappy "fix" for an overly modified airplane, and they were cheap enough not to include backup sensors. This is well documented. If it had been crew error, the FAA wouldn't have grounded the type for a year. To their credit, they insisted that Boeing solve the problem.
What’s really funny is that I took a Scrum certification course, and one of our Agile projects was to define a commercial airliner’s product features for something that would “wow” the airlines. What we came up with just spitballing for an hour was something very similar to the A220, because the fundamental problems the A220 solves are commonplace across the airlines.
Boeing complaining about a product that’s similar to the old MD80/90/Super 80 smaller jets that they could easily build again (especially after their acquisition of McDonnell Douglas) is ridiculous.
When a company fails, it has no one to blame but itself. If 90% of the competition can do what they can’t, it’s a company culture problem, not a technical innovation problem.
From any angle the 350-1000 is a stunning aircraft, Airbus are serving Delta very well.
Delta is quickly becoming my favorite airline... and I haven't flown them since the 90s
Wow! I never knew Airbus had a “perfect” safety record!
They don’t 😂
They are not cutting corners as a company's policy. Their CEO is an engineer, not an accountant. Their HQ is based right by a tarmac overlooking production lines.
What else do you want Boeing trash boy?
Airbus isn't cutting corners as company's policy. Its CEO is an engineer, not an accountant. Their HQ is by a tarmac overlooking production lines. How does it sound for a start?
To say that the 737 was Boeing's industrial flagship and that it would suffer its loss, what a shame, kick the financiers out.
I am not a Boeing fan, I will say that some of these issues are maintenance issues
Boeing never should have merged with MD.
Wrong.
If McDonnell Douglas still existed then the BIg Three would be here with us today.
Boeing
McDonnell Douglas
Lockheed Martin
Although I'm no fan of the 787, this presentation has multiple errors on that, starting at about 1:24. The first fire incidents were in January of 2013; one was JAL, and the other was ANA. These incidents caused the grounding. The Ethiopian Airlines incident was 6 months later - in July of 2013. That fire had nothing to do with the ship's two primary lithium-ion batteries. It was caused by a faulty ELT battery. That was also lithium-ion, but that same ELT battery is also installed in many other types of airliners. It's not unique to the 787.
The whistleblower wasn’t exaggerating when it said that Boeing was cutting corners. Get it fixed asap Boeing 🙏🏼
The basic 737 design is decades old and the latest generation of engines didn't really fit it. Instead of designing a new plane to go with the new designs of engines, Boeing tried to adapt the old 737 to save costs whereas Airbus came up with totally new designs of planes. This is the fundamental issue of the current 737 designs - the entire plane needs a re-design but Boeing were chasing profits not good products, and look where it's gotten them
Airbus came up with totally new designs of planes? The A320 is a 40 year old program. The A330neo is based on the 50 year old A300. The A300B9 was the original designation of what would become the A330. Airbus has come up with two new clean sheet designs since 2000: The A350 and the A380. Boeing came out with one…the 787. Neither has produced a new clean sheet design of a narrowbody in decades. The A220 doesn’t count…that was already done by Bombardier - an excellent purchase decision but still not their design.
The only AIRBUS clean sheet designs are the A350 and A380. The A320Neo and the 737 MAX are cut from the same cloth.
@@dmcr9525 Stop lying the MAX comes from a 707 cell which dates from the end of the 50s the 320 dates from the 80s...30 years younger!!
Diversifying their planes between Airbus and Boeing is smart, that way if one plane type is grounded then you still have other planes that can fly
These are NOT the reasons Delta has moved toward Airbus in the wide-body market and to a lesser extent the NEO in the narrow-body sector. Delta moved towards Airbus after the Northwest Merger, which was long before any of Boeing's issues posed up. Northwest was heavily Airbus, and Delta received heavy discounts for be a mainline US carrier to stick with them. all these issues you mention, yet say nothing about common Airbus problems like stuck control surfaces, major Pratt engine problems (not a cause of Airbus of course). They also plan on retiring the A319, and A320 for the 737 MAX and A321NEO. Delta has also decided, and stated that they want to be a launch customer for the Boeing NMA if and when it is ever launched.
Boeing was dumping on Delta long before the current flood of Boeing problems. As a retired Delta pilot, I've heard several stories from Line Check Airmen who occasionally met with Richard Anderson on the topic. When one asked him about Delta trying to rejigger Northwest's 787 orders, Anderson became visibly angry and refused to say anything. ... Other things as well. I know Delta will still consider Being offerings, but Boeing has lost a lot of sales from Delta over their past stupid treatment of Delta.
Delta has fired some shots across the Boeing bow.
If it’s Boeing I ain’t going.
DELTA have been switching their wide body fleet over the last 4 years..I've heard they are loving there A321neos as well.
Many of the examples you give are engine related or in some cases, more of an airline maintenance issue….such as a wheel falling off. To lump all that into Boeing’s actual “structural” issues, is misleading
The Triple7's wheel loss depends in part on the design of the landing gear.
@@Boitaoutix no it doesn't
It's Boeing's own fault for losing sales. They discontinued the 757 which Delta STILL flies,and regularly updates. They also never built the NMA 797 Delta was looking into.
The Airbus fleet was inherited from NW. But it's telling that Delta never had it's own 787 order, and eventually cancelled Northwest's.
The 757 had been dead in the market since about 2000. It was THEN (in 2004/05) that Boeing ended the production in Renton and scrapped the machinery (to create more space for the 737).
DELTA is telling some things while it does others. The true mantra of the fleet strategy of DELTA over the last decade or so has been massive SIMPLIFICATION. They retired the last "old" DC-9s in 2014, the 747 in 2017, the "non-ER" 767-300 in 2019, and in the "extinction year" 2020 all 777s, all MD--80s and -90s, and the first sub-family of the 737 NG (i.e. the -700). Over the last few weeks, apparently the demise of the 757 has begun, with the inventory fallen from 111 to 109 units. At the same time, brand new A321neos arrive at a rate of between two and four a month. DELTA executives love to pay lip service to Boeing, and they praised the (purely fictional) "797".
In the meantime they operate more and more 'busses out of Seattle.
OF COURSE Delta’s CEO had to say they love Boeing’s aircraft: he don’t want to be the person that kills the last commercial airplane manufacturer in the US. BUT… his actions show us his true thoughts about Boeing.
The video is wrong. Delta has always had both brands as well as different models of them in their fleet.
Well in fairness, he's thinking he wants Boeing to succeed but also about passengers who are using travel agents that exclude Boeing aircraft.
Yes 80% of the problem where poor maintenance Bad mechanics
Airbus will not want Boeing out of business, they cannot meet the airline demand and the airlines are not going to pay to retrain and modify their entire pilot and engineering crews. Not to mention the supply chain that feeds the airline’s engineering teams. Boeing needs to rebuild its trust not only with the flying public, but more importantly with the airlines.
Airbus will be top dog for at least 10 years while Boeing rebuilds the damage its naive executives have done to a once great manufacturer.
I hope as a Brit, that it gets done faster than that, the Chinese are just itching to make everybody loose their jobs.
Corporate greed has brought down a lot of once great manufacturers. I have no doubt in my mind that Boeing can and will get it together. They need to start at the top with it's engineering team while focusing on implementing better QC checks on the production floor and once they become more sustainable then focus on ramping up production. It needs to be in that order to be successful, safety, quality then efficiencies.
If it’s a BOEING - I aint Going!
Important not to confuse Boeings poor manufacturing with airline maintenance issues.
This is an unfair video. It seems lying and exagerating has become the norm because of our press that does these things habitually.
Maintenance issues are not the problem of the manufacturer. The recent problems experienced by United are all maintenance issues and are not Boeing's responsibility. This is like blaming car manufacturers for crashes due to drunk drivers.
@berkeleyfuller-lewis3442 What?
@berkeleyfuller-lewis3442 tell me you know nothing about aviation without telling me
Are you claiming that Boeing doesnt have issues in its manufacturing process. Both the 737 max and 787 are throught with issues with the design and manufacturing process.
Both companies airbus and boeing are experiences with engines but thats more of an issue with P&W.
@@thecomedypilot5894Boeing builds dangerous aircraft.
@@thecomedypilot5894 there’s been two crashes and the door plug incident plus the electrical problems.
>Before the merger, Boeing was an engineering focused company; after merger with a company that was clearly focused on profit the merged company put profit before engineering. Assembly workers who raised safety concerns were condemned or even fired. It has not veered from that position.
Make the leaders of a company responsible for corporate failures and that policy will be corrected.
>This is the same pattern everywhere now, whether it is Wall Street, manufacturing, internet corporations. When there is no accountability there will be failure that will continue with impunity. These are the kinds of habits that signal the decline of a nation, or culture. We are on the downside.
Delta is already a huge operator of Airbus planes once it merged with Northwest Airlines, who already had a substantial A320 and A330 fleet at the time of the merger. Because of the experience of Delta with Airbus airliners, buying more A220's, A320neo Family planes, A330-900neo's and A350's over the next 20 years.
No it wasn't!
Delta and other airlines are Airbus happy ✈️
And this is why I like airbus
At the end of the day, at this time, Airbus is the better company. Better run with a superior product designed to serve both airlines and the people who travel on airliners. Boeing's arrogance in the way they, along with the Trump Government, sought to destroy Bombardier was telling. Boeing cares not how they achieve their maximum profits. If silly Boeing had bought the C Series, now A220, they would at least have a superior aircraft and the highly experienced Montreal workforce. My gut tells me this workforce could have been utilized to instruct less experienced Boeing workers. That said it is likely the Boeing workforce suffer mostly from CEO and Boardroom cost cutting. Demoralizing a workforce will and has led to horrible consequences for travelers and Boeing.
Blame it on trump. Your the problem
i think the rubber pedals was the issue, not that they were stuck lmao
Delta is wise.
Boeing's pursuit of profit before safety is coming back to bite them on the arse/ass regardless of whether this video is clickbait or not. Safety is the top priority for almost all passengers and pushing it down your own list of priorities as a company will cost you in the aviation industry.
Agreed.
Cancel the 737 MAX order. Go with Airbus.
Go live in Europe?🤔
Even if both Airbus and Boeing were totally identical with manufacturing quality and technology. If either of them get sloppy with maintenance, it obviously creates a danger for anyone who is on it.
So the question is, who is more likely to be meticulous with the maintenance of their aircraft, Boeing or Airbus? What about pilot and air crew training when any changes come around?
The pilots of the 2 doomed 737 crashes were not even notified of the changes the engineers made when they took off, never mind training them for it. I’ll put my money on Airbus.
Maintenance of aircraft is usually the task of the airlines, while the OEMs (i.e. Airbus and Boeing respectively) sell the spare parts (that by themselves may be subject to upgrades in design, manufacturing and certification). Engine manufacturers OTOH also go for long term maintenance contracts.
Delta was already pro Airbus before the MAX crashes
I downloaded an app online that allows me to book flights without flying on any Boeing aircraft. The board of directors at Boeing have destroyed a once great company for their own personal greed. Disgusting management.
The biggest mistake was the MD merger. The two cultures did not jibe and they destroyed the company.
@@MetaView7 I agree. The greatest error was moving out of the manufacturing base and into the Wall Street base.. made a colossal mistake
You're obviously an insider...no? So you get your information from......the outrage click?....or other "noble and altruistic' people with a crap opinion or experts as they like to call themselves.
Wheels & tires falling at takeoff, blown doors, cracked wind shield and more serious safety damages, including deaths!! It’s not a good look for such a great company. I don’t blame Delta Air Lines switching to Airbus before something else goes very wrong.
you can say that again
This video exagerates problems as all being "Boeing" not to mention a click bait title. Wheels fall off of every brand of plane. In regard to engine fires, Boeing does not make engines. Etc Etc. Sure they have had too many issues but to make them look even worse is unfair. I have flown on these jets all my life and have never had a problem.
I totally agree that these Boeing issues are plainly bashing against Boeing. Boeing tries to cut costs, but make no mistake, Airbus has or will have the same issues. It seems highly coincidental that Chinese COMAC has started entering the market and will try everything to go against the two giants.
@berkeleyfuller-lewis3442 Your sarcasm and irrelevant commentary don't impress me at all.
Spirit is reporting their recent losses on Airbus delivery delays and engine issues. You can find a great deal of knowledgeable videos on TH-cam and then you can also find channels like this that just like to prove they don’t actually know anything without telling you they don’t know anything. Let’s talk about the MAX crashes even though Delta was already turning very much towards Airbus prior to those crashes happening. Let’s also talk about the recent Alaska incident even though Delta had already placed an order for 100 MAX prior to Alaska.
An absolutely disingenuous analysis. While there is no doubt Boeing has suffered following the acquisition of McDonnell Douglas, to include outright maintenance issues like you have done here is just plain wrong. Batteries, tires, engines, engine cowlings are not manufacturing issues. Hold Boeing accountable for their many issues, but don't try to indict the company for issues well beyond their control. #Disgusted with FLG AVIA
Airbus too has trouble ramping up production. Otherwise they would sweep the market.
I’m good with Delta moving towards Airbus. They build superior aircraft. I was a Boeing fan boy for years but after experiencing the A220 and A350 my mind has changed. Then came the MAX and that was the straw that broke the camels back for me. I’m flying next week and am travelling with JetBlue. I am paying more than I could but selected JetBlue because there is no chance of a Boeing being used. Flying on a MAX in my view is akin to having a death wish.
Agreed
As a Boeing fan, the 747 is a flying coffin and so is the A330.
I'm flying JetBlue too!
I'm usually flying Delta in US. Now I have one more good reason to keep on flying with this carrier. The less the Boeing aircrafts the safer it is.
Yet Delta has more active Boeing planes than Airbus.
@@MetroDoc-he8zd True, but most of them are still old good Boeing: 717,757,767. Turning into Airbus will take a long time and I'm sure they will keep Boeing aircrafts in theyr fleet too
Looks like you'll be taking Greyhound or Amtrack or Spirit, they fly an all Airbus fleet. Delta has more Boeing aircraft than Airbus!
@@panam747 True, but please read my previous post. Moreover the title of this video is Delta says goodbye, not that they have an Airbus fleet from now on
@@d8889 But Delta isn't saying goodbye!
I definitely wouldn't consider myself a Boeing fan, but let's be honnest, Delta has 519 Boeing aircraft in their fleet (while they *only* 466 Airbus aircraft) with another 100 Boeing 737 MAX 10s on order (and another 223 Airbus aircraft). I would hardly call that "Delta saying goodbye to Boeing"
Sure, they won't (can't) dump the Boeing section immediately, although, it can be a remarkable sign when the order book for Boeing products will be thrown in the trash can.
Yes, Delta is shifting more towards Airbus, but they are far from becoming an all Airbus Airline and the likelihood of it happening is small.
They have the 100 737-10 on order, but also they have more than 160 737-900ER that won't go anywhere anytime soon. Plus the 21 767-400ER that will be part of the fleet until at least into the 2030s.
On top of the MAXes I can absolutely see Delta ordering the 787-10. Their widebody orders so far do not cover the whole fleet that needs replacement, and the 787-10 is a perfect fit. Also Delta repeatedly states that they are very interested in a Boeing 797/MOM. If Boeing launches this one maybe later this decade I can see Delta jumping on it.
I don't think they would be interested in the 787 anymore. The A330neo is one factor, and I don't see them placing orders after cancelling a previous 787-8 order in 2016. So as far as widebodies are concerned, they are more definitely comfortable with the A330neo and A350. Might hope they order A330-800neo after their A350-1000 order, though more -900neos could also be possible.
@@vitoaditya8337 787-8 is one thing, 787-10 another, also 2016 is one thing, 2024 another story. Airlines are upgauging capacity of airplanes all over the place, the A330-300s will be due for replacement starting from the late 2020s/early 2030s. They could sure order more A330-900s, but first the A330-900 means zero increase in capacity and second a huge airline like Delta needs to diversify and cannot rely only on one manufacturer.
The 787-10 is a CASM beast on routes up to around 10 hours, which is most of the routes across the North Atlantic. So the 787-10 is the perfect plane for all those higher demand transatlantic routes, for example those into the Sky team Hubs AMS, CDG etc. Also it hauls a significant amount of cargo. I am very certain Delta will go for the 787-10 midterm.
Considering the range issue, 787-10 isn’t as competitive compared to A350-900, or even the future 777-8
@@jhca4671 the 787-10 does not have a range issue. It was built to be a people mover on routes up to 10/11 hours, and it does this extremely well. With slight payload restriction it can even fly shorter transpacific routes, with the latest MTOW bump even without restriction. Delta does not need a 787-10 which is able to do 14 hour missions, for those missions it has A350-900s. However on these shorter Transatlantic routes the 787-10 is more efficient than the A359, and this is where is makes sense to operate both, which many airlines do.
when the 737-10s going to get delivered?
I guess you're not aware that in 2022 Delta ordered 100 of the 737 MAX10's. So much for Delta saying "goodbye" to Boeing. 🙄
Don’t blame them with all the shit happening at Boeing these days
That's right. You are smart! Tell the creator that we aren't stupid.
This has absolutely nothing to do with that.
Probably because Delta prefers aircraft that won’t kill you.
EXACTLY
Airbus aircraft have killed plenty of people.
@@panam747true but Boeing is really mired in a mess of their own making. Even if you dismiss the problems they are having, they cannot get aircraft certified or delivered. MAX 7? Sorry Southwest! MAX 10? Sorry United! 777x? Sorry Emirates!
@@tomdavis8757 They'll get their shit together!
Can’t understand American quality!! It needs to stop being more about the money. The US is all about money not about people. You see this from Healthcare to Manufacturing.
Delta Airlines is an aviation industry "Bell Weather" of trends. Several decades ago, Delta flew only McDonnell-Douglas aircraft. They were McDonnell-Dougla's largest customer. Then, they dramatically turned away from McDonnell-Douglas, ending their close relationship, and turning to Boeing. Now, the "Bell Weather" is ringing again. Is this the "Death Nell" for Boeing?
It’s too early to bury Boeing
Too early 🤣.
First, grounding individual planes for issues unique to that plane is ultra-common. In fact, it's one of the reasons flights get delayed.
Second, the vast majority of issues this AI listed are maintence problems that groundcrews are supposed to be identifying and fixing. That's an airline issue.
thanks for sharing your thoughts
The primary reason for Delta‘s MAX 10 order is its existing hundreds of pilots and MRO network established for 737. The make in USA label also helps. Delta is large enough to maintain duopoly suppliers for its feet. Of course, if the A320 supply isn’t so tight, Delta probably will order more Airbus planes. Delta has been very shrewd in managing its fleet operation and renewal, much better than United and American. Both airlines are banking on B787 for its wide body fleets. B787 is a fine plane but with smaller capacity and is not well suited for slot restricted high volume routes. A350 offers a superior customer experience than B787, not to mention the manufacturing and quality issues associated with B787.
Looks like maintenance are more to blame than Boeing. If they were brand new airplanes I would be apt to believe it could be Boeing.
You forgot to mention 80 % of the problems where poor maintenance
Thanks for your feedback.
No stress. Delta was a Douglas customer before.
737 max: It's uncrashable!
Months later, it crashed.
In regards to engine problems, Boeing doesn't make engines.
@berkeleyfuller-lewis3442 You need help.
@berkeleyfuller-lewis3442 You’ve got problems.
What about maintenance ? Once a product has been delivered, the airlines are having to take a lot of responsibility how the aircraft is being cared for. These days, even the ordinary customer is unpacking goods, throwing the manual in the bin with the packaging, hoping everything is set for selfcare, not even reading the section of possible warnings.
Rudyard Kipling, an author from Victorian times, famously wrote "The Secret[...] of the Machines". One of the concluding verses should be learn by everyone, worldwide:
"[...] But remember, please, the Law by which we live, We are not built to comprehend a lie, We can neither love nor pity nor forgive. If you make a slip in handling us you die ! [...]
Airbus planes are just better built and more reliable than Boeing ones. So it’s a no brainer for Delta. Boeing has a lot of work to do to!
Wrong image for the Lion Air 737 MAX8 Crash, this was another incident.
It ain’t a 31 year old Boeing, I ain’t going!
Your video is only about 5-10 years too late. Delta was going with Airbus ever since the C series debacle but that’s cool.
_"Delta Airlines used to be one of the major operators of Boeing aircraft from the _*_early stages_*_ of the airline starting in 1970 when Delta received its first Boeing jetliner, the 747..."_
*1970* is hardly the _early stages_ of an airline that was founded during the pre-Depression era. Delta was historically a big *Douglas Aircraft* (later McDonald Douglas) operator. The airline rostered the world's largest fleet of *Lockheed* aircraft, and acquired its first *Airbus* aircraft from the defunct Pam Am early during the 1990s. Delta has historically operated fewer Boeings as a percentage of their total fleet, than either American or United.
@@Clayfan568932 👀
I hate when people post videos about companies and people that they know nothing about . 😮 I grew up in the 70's and 80's and my mother was also a school teacher. In the "old" days when we had to write reports for classes, we did something called "research "! 😱 That mean't going to the library, checking out books on a subject, reading old newspaper and magazine articles, consulting the World Book Encyclopedia, watching news stories, or even writing letters to, or calling the actual person or entity to get information. People these days are too lazy to be bothered with such things. The news media no longer does it either. It used to be called investigative journalism. 🥺 Many airlines have official websites where you can get an accurate historical account of the company. When I interviewed with Delta for a position, one of the questions was, "what do you know about the company"? and the interviewer was shocked that I knew information, that most people don't know unless they do their homework. Posting inaccurate information makes them look stupid and it's an insult to those who know the truth. 😒
Airbus.. less money for fuel, more money for safety
AIRBUS ✈
Boeing should pay for their (catastrophic) behavior (regarding customers, pilots, public, etc).
You're going off of new news about Boeing when Delta already had Airbus 330-900's and A350's on order for the past 3 years. With a new recent order for the Airbus 3300-1000's this past summer. All of this happened before all the Boeing news. Delta has orders in for 100 of the 737-10 MAX since July 18, 2022 and has options for 30 more on top of the 100 ordered. This is flat out Click bait!!! I'll be sure NOT to subscribe to opinions, not facts.
I agree. This is the result when you let AI write and speak scripts for videos. The person behind this probably knows absolutely nothing about planes. It was all written by the Chat GPT bot.
Oh gee wiz, wasn’t it a Delta A-350 which had just pulled up to the gate at sea-Tax erupted into flames from under the cockpit. If that had been a B-787 it would have required a total grounding of every single 787. But since it was an A-350 which is perfect, not a word has been heard from Ed Bastion or any of the other Airbus lovers.
I hate to hear that because Boeing is an american company but its only smart business to spend where you can save and dependability
Um actually, Delta isn't completely saying bye to Boeing, since they have the 737 MAX 10 on order 🤓🤓🤓
Chill😭 it's not that serious
Dont forget United told Boeing to stop production of the 10 and concentrate on the 9
Is this video about maintenance issues of Boeing aircraft (Airbus has them too) or about Delta? Other than the 737's that Delta is buying Boeing doesn't have an aircraft that fits their need. Boeing screwed themselves by not having a 757-max or new engine option like the A-321's.
Easy way to clean-up Boeing. Same way in Australia we get random alcohol & drugg tested while driving, the FBI should walk into Boeing's Everett WA factory & just randomly test people 2 or 3 days a week. FBI & the FAA walk into the Boeing factory with the same equipment police in Australia, breathalyzers & lick sticks, use to screen drivers for alcohol & substances on the side of the road & randomly test the workers... EVEN THE BOARD MEMBERS. Randomly test the girls at reception too.... TEST EVERYBODY. We rely on planes to get us to our loved ones over vast distances, for me it's the Pacific Ocean. So FBI & FAA, start the random screening.... Flash your badges & walk in & start screening.
Ah, but if Boeing own The President/Congress/FAA/FBI/Tom-Dick&Harry, how's that going to work?
Let's not mention the Mr. John Barnett factor!?!?? Smh
What a hit piece. Even cursory fact checking will tell you that 90% of these issues were not design driven.
Good!! Maybe if United and American would tell Boeing to "get lost", they might clean up their act and become an industry leader again. They don't care about lives but they care about money.🥺
The plural of aircraft is aircraft.
Smart move. Ditch boeing with their zero-quality management system and move to a supplier who does understand the importance of quality management and who does not sub-contract manufacture of major aircraft parts to other companies.
Last time i check boeing only makes the planes, not the engines or the maintenance
Why the AI voice?
Important to keep in mind minor issue happen all the time.
There are thousands of flight a days, so a few minor issues is expected.
Aircraft are designed to deal with failure and keep passenger safety as high as possible.
(That being say Boeing still need to improve)
Minor issues like deceit, not telling airlines about MCAS.
Minor issues like being investigated by the FBI and then conveniently losing the documentation concerning door plug fitting, both paper and digital.
Minor issues like fires.
EEAS are considering the rejection of FAA Certification for Boeing making it invalid for Europe.
Minor issue?
@@kevinrichard100 "Minor issues like deceit, not telling airlines about MCAS.
Minor issues like being investigated by the FBI and then conveniently losing the documentation concerning door plug fitting, both paper and digital.
Minor issues like fires."
Obviously those are not minor issues and is unacceptable.
but many of the issue cited above had nothing to do with boeing manufacturing.
>EEAS are considering the rejection of FAA Certification
Well i would be good if the FAA face justice they had audited and validated Boeing process for years yet they are not accountable somehow?
Seems like maybe poor maintenance!
Boeing is not safe!! No Max for me!!
Feel the same
I love Boeing 777
Is the narrator a real human being or an AI voice? Some of the pausing is really weird.
AI
Definitely. I think this was an ChatGPT (or some other software) generated video. Not happy with this kind of stuff...
@@northeasternlaw Latley ive been recommended a lot of aviation AI generated videos
@@JamesCAsphalt8 An AI named Al.
Love the computer reading the script.
funky word choice and pronunciations with a credible mid-America accent
I wish Garuda Indonesia can saying "GOODBYE" to BOEING and turning to AIRBUS just like every Airline including Delta Airlines, QANTAS, KLM etc.
thanks for your sharing
Some of the Boeing incidents were due to poor maintenance which was the airlines fault and not Boeing. That said, Bean Counters (we hate you) RUINED Boeing.... Put engineers back in charge of the Boeing company
Yes, that’s right, but what happened with the Maxes is unforgivable.
Some off these are maintance issues and not Boeing.
Airbus is the car equivalent of Mercedes or BMW while Boeing can be compared to Ford or Chevy… there I said it 😂😅🤷🏻♂️
Can you drop BMW, please or set the contest for those 2 car makers only ? Merc for Airbus, while the Beamer is taking up the role of Boeing.
Ask any pilots who have flown both manufacture..
They will choose Boeing..Man Machine & Environment loop..
Depends on 1) which manufacturer's planes they were first trained on and 2) which one they've spent the majority of their flight hours piloting. Since it is literally impossible for a pilot to have had their first flight ever training on both a Boeing and an Airbus plane, that influence is 'lock-in' so to speak. I've also never met a pilot that has as many hours flying either one as they do the other. So no 'piloted Boeing with 5000 hours' and 'piloted Airbus 5000 hours'; oh, and those hours would have be kept even the entire time, so Boeing 100 hours would have immediately be followed by Airbus 100 hours.
It all comes down to familiarity and expectations. Boeing pilots expect to have their piloting column between their legs, while Airbus pilots expect to have a control stick either their left or righthand side. Same with placement of displays, switches, and the like.
4:15 how can a wheel fall off mid flight? Wasn't it either during take-off or landing?
The credibility and veracity of this and other aviation video productions of this prolific channel would be greatly enhanced by using a human narrator!
The AI's pronunciation and syntax errors are so obvious and jarring as to seriously undermine the believability of the whole production!
I prefer human ingenuity and expert analysis in this highly technical field of endeavour, to that of ChatGPT type mashups!
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Well said. Thank you.
... Rudder pedals. RUDDER. Not rubber.
Please Boeing. Get your shits together
At 04:05 a United Boeing B737-8 (MAX) while landing at Atlanta experienced ...stuck RUBBER pedals...''!
'How worrisome!
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the brakes seemed 'spongy'?
In 2023 alone DAL was biggest customer of AIB with deliveries across all programs aka A220, A320 family, A339 and A359.
Oh god how much I hate IA voices, feels so un-natural !!!
spoilt the video for me, stopped watching
Is this creator really blaming airline maintenance issues on aircraft more than 20 years old on Boeing? Biased much?
Boeing deserves the bad press for 737 but not this other stuff you’re putting up to get the drama quotient up. Last time I’ll be here.
Boeing is such a shit company, safety should be absolute priority above profitability. A manufacturer shouldn't cut costs, especially when it comes to maintenance. I don't think they care about people just the $$. 🖕
@@Jabil-k9k Boeing's heyday was the design and manufacturing of the iconic 747 - Those days are long gone thanks to (Profit before safety) Management
I'd like to see Airbus get the anal probe Boeing gets and yes Airbus has issues but they cover them very quickly and the EuroTrash won't play this stupid self loathing American BS "we" put ourselves through because we are just that much smarter than everyone....sigh. What ever happened to the rusting wing roots on the A380? When those A350 paint jobs came off the Qatar Airlines jets they said not a problem but when Qatar said the one jet had 900 places where this had happened an Airbus elitist pig started talking down to Qatar Airlines as if they were over reacting because they are just stupid Bedouins. Turns out a few Dreamliners had a similar issue to a much smaller degree and Boeing had an immediate fix, no muss no fuss AND no credit for its customer service and may I say SAFETY unlike Airbus.
That's why Mr. Clickbate Delta ordered lots of Max planes. Do your homework! DL gets what it can get cheap and has only 240 737s, and it's waiting for more!
That order is under review as Boeing is not in compliance and cannot deliver on their end. Delta would love to have MAX 10’s but obviously that’s not happening any time soon. They can cancel their order.
Your claiming Boeing is completely at fault for each various airlines maintenance deficiencies.
Do you know if Boeing has any future plans for the 767?
I thought that line is closed. Turn the number in the middle and request information for the 797.🙄
@@thies7831 797 wont exist until ages later either. Dont even turn the number, just dont ask the question instead lol
It's about time