Don't Suffer More Than Needed | Buddhist Philosophy on Pain and Suffering
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- “Pain is inevitable, but suffering is optional,” is a Buddhist saying that points to a fundamental truth of existence, which is that pain and affliction are an inherent part of life: we contract illnesses, get wounded, lose our loved ones, our possessions, our social status. But despite the hardships we encounter, the degree of suffering we generate still varies per person. The greatest misfortune hardly affects some people, while the slightest inconvenience leads other people into states of deep agony. Thus, could it be that suffering is something we can manage and doesn’t always have to result from pain?
Don't Suffer More Than Needed | Buddhist Philosophy on Pain and Suffering
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00:00 - Intro
01:57 - Introduction to the Eight Worldly Winds
06:52 - The second arrow of suffering
09:45 - Sailing the worldly winds
"There is no path to happiness. Happiness is the path."
- Buddha
Oh well, are you sure it is Buddha's quote? I don't think so ....
Very similar to the Stoic version "Let the path bring happiness and the destination bring honor". (modified Seneca)
@@ConsciousSurfingintoReality "You needn't experience full enlightenment to realize eternal rest, relaxation and repose at rock bottom prices at Mother Mary's Mattress Emporium!"
- Siddhārtha Gautama Buddha
@@ConsciousSurfingintoReality I agree, I see contentment as being achievable above happiness. Is it possible to be happy all day long when one knows so many are suffering in our world. Contentment is acceptance and gratitude a first cousin. Cheers from NZ listener.
Why you all care about who said it? I advice you as a random dude on the internet, to process everything you hear and everything you see by yourself. have an independent mind and think about what is said. not who said it. - random dude on the internet.
"The pursuit of avoiding pain is painful in itself."
Oof. I was avoiding my workout today and your comment kinda gave me the stink eye 👁
Once you find this truth,it’s beautiful
That's what I face everyday every minute. Been on anti depressants for many years now. Partially it can be subsided by doing what you like
@@ronankeating8997 Doing what we love is a blessing for our soul.🎈🌈🦋
I wish you a joyful and radiant future. Better days are coming. Keep going! 💪🙏😊
True. Let us just feel the pain, understand or is it okay to not understand for the time bieng. Felt it to the core untill we lose our hold on to the feeling of it.
*“The root of suffering is attachment.”*
- Gautama Buddha
Bruh
The second Noble Truth.
The root of deciencey is attachment my mum and dad
This idea of being detached is also a form of attachment on the idea of being detached. We are in a loop my friend. How can we really be detached without being attached to anything be it idea or belief ...?
@@g.j to practice detachment is very different from the idea of being attached to detachment. Semantically it's the same but in practice it's very different.
“The mind is a wonderful servant, but a terrible master.”
Wow 😳 perfect 🤩
😭
Not if you’re a master of the mind,
Well, Not if You The owner of that mind. Is. Its master. Control and own your mind or you will be a slave to those who own and master their own mind. Cheers.
~King Michael
@@kingmichaeltheearchangel3593 ,
There is NO MIND to begin with; How can there be an Ownership ?
People suffer because they expect certainty in an uncertain world.
Damn.. so true
That's so right wtff.Tbh i feel disappointed because i think my art deserves more recognization (i was talented ofc,i can draw similar to WLOP at a very young age without learning)but then this comment changed my view of it,ty bro i needed this,I should draw because i enjoy it not for others to praise it.Fame is unimportant and I believes there are tons of insanely talented artists who haven't been recognized yet
Anything with conditions are uncertain, including this world
Anything with conditions are uncertain, including this world
Right
When you’re feeling anxious you’re living in the future,when you’re feeling depressed you’re living in the past,when you’re feeling at peace you’re living in the present.
You need more likes
@@mellowxkrabb9084 yours is all that I need.
Unless you're sitting on a bed of burning charcoal at the present moment.
@@euleneats please don’t sit there
Love that
Suffering has a Lot to do with childhood. If You were born with a sensitive mind and noone noticed It, You May have a life task to learn to tacle it. I myself found meditation and spiritual teachers to Help me stop suffering. Nature is the best help in my life. When I am in Nature, I am in peace. Thank You🐝
Being out in nature is a great healer.
🙏
Thank you
This also makes me ask a question do our birth somehow define or determine our suffering.
@@a.k1458 Depends on genetics and environment. I would say that no matter what, the most important is the grownups to take care of You and their circumstances. 🌱
"Pain is inevitable, but suffering is optional."
Nice reference
This remind me of what Will Smith said in his movie After Earth.
"Danger is real but fear is a choice."
😀🌹✌💕😁💖🫂
*_"The first arrow is unavoidable, the second one is optio--"_*
**He who hits first hits twice.*
DANG IT.
@@JeusAlprime108 po
I've been learning Buddhsim for some time, I think: Pain is more like a direct reaction to outside influences, for example physical pain or hateful words. It is not avoidable. But suffering is a state of mind --- If you let go of illusions & victimization, greed, anger, sadness or even lusts etc. You are free of suffering. However, if you "cling to" those emotions, you're suffering indeed.
Sorry my native language isn't English!
Well written and said.
It's like sitting right beside a river, observing the river flow and understanding its changing nature
But how do you let go suffering? What should I do differently?
@@fanrath7252 try to control your emotions
@@nicolaeceausescu6049 emotions are not under your control, at least from a stoic standpoint
I believe you should accept your emotions. Stay away from repressing or trying to control your emotions because truly your emotions are not under your control. What is under your control are your actions, and you must simply accept and observe your emotions while you act rationally.
I've found this practice to be very helpful during panic attacks. I have PTSD, so my fight/flight/freeze function is ker-busted. When my body starts to panic, I just sit down and focus on my breathing. I remind myself this is a medical condition and not a fault, and I don't have to get involved with the stuff my brain is trying to terrorize me with. It's still quite painful to go through and the memories are still atrocious, but this practice has minimized the duration and effect of the attacks down from a couple hours to just 5 minutes these days.
May your soul ring healing ❤️🩹 ❤️🧡🔆
keep pushing, brother. proud of you.
Right there with you. Suffer panic attacks and anxiety disorder all my life. I try to explain to people who tell me to just calm down that if it were a switch I could shut off I would gladly have done it decades ago.
Gorgeous
Yup. Sounds too simple but
DEEP BREATHING does help. In a fight or flight attack the ONLY thing deep breathing doesn't help is diarrhea. 😝
Suffering is only eased by realizing the temporariness of life. It's only by letting go that we truly comfort ourselves from suffering.
Whenever something bad happens we say the same thing 'why me' as if you're special and should be protected from pain. Victim mindset does not help. Instead its important to accept and learn the lesson
Amen
🎯
@@thesimplegospel3529 Pain is pain. No matter how small or big it is you still suffer. No pain is manageable. I speak from experience. But how you see your pain and suffering matters. How you deal with it matters. Are you going to let the pain use you or will you use it? No matter the amount of pain there is always a choice.
@@thesimplegospel3529 "I need you to be strong so I can be weak".
But we are the cruel ones...
@@thesimplegospel3529 hmm I guess we must be aware that we have a choice on how to deal with our own pain, but when it comes to the pain of other people it helps when we show sympathy. I think both of you are right.
At the end, how we manage our pain depends on ourselves no matter how other people help us (we are the ones who are in control of our life) and vice versa.
"The wise man accepts his pain, endures it, but does not add to it" - Marcus Aurelius
The stoics WERE the closest western philosophy to budisim!
You aren't your thoughts, feelings or actions. Rise above and regain control of your life experience!
I disagree. Thoughts and feelings come and go, but your actions have consequences.
@@labornurse How does that disagree with my statement?
@@Nathanate84 we are are actions. At least to the outside world or reality.
@@labornurse You're missing something. I hope you can find it. Good luck!
Buddha said ‘what you think, you become’ so we actually are our thoughts
I love this comment section, everybody is a zen master !
Everybody feeding their ego pretending to be a zen master until the next thing upsets them.
😁
“Those who do not understand true pain can never understand true peace.” - Pain
Cast Shinra Tensei from above.
Shinra-tensei!
@@chetsenior7253it's the opposite of false
The more we try to avoid the pain the more we get attached to it.
I have felt this way lately and afraid to go out, I’ve been getting called creep for I don’t know how long but a long enough time that I’ve developed a fear of it. I hear it almost everywhere I go, I take care of my self and try to be kind to everyone I meet but inevitably that word comes to follow me every where I go. I’m so afraid of being called that cause I’m scared of believing it eventually.
"Death is certain but dying is a choice."
Someone once posted this online and it opened my eyes.
BS, because we're all dying, just because you can't see "dying" doesn't mean it's not present.
Sooner or later your eyes will be closed.
i get it but at the same time I don't, care to elaborate more please?
@@pincopallino69 I'd suggest this alludes to "dying" being a process that precedes death. Death is a matter of moments that you can't control = it's certain. Meanwhile, what you do before that is up to you. You could be vivacious a day before your death, or you could spend that day already anticipating it and thus holding your liveliness back because "it's futile to hold onto it.". It's your choice. Be lively while you still have your life or spend your life slowly dying.
YOUtuBeCritic The reference is more akin to being alive and truly living, rather than just merely existing
I find myself in a weird loop of feeling like these philosophies will help me avoid pain, but through the backdoor of ancient teachings. All this makes sense intellectually, but truly letting go doesn't come from force or will power - however its the only way i know how to do anything.
Sending light and support to you
Will you and those who surround you be alive after 100 years??
That's why meditation is practiced.
Viktor Frankl ( a famous German psychologist) said something like meditation being a poor way of practicing the overcoming of suffering. The actions that people should take should relate to what is at that moment most meaningful to them. You could try reading Man's search for meaning by Viktor Frankl to get better insight into it all.
Acceptance
I’m a Buddhist from Sri Lanka and have been watching your videos for a long time. It helped me a lot to calm my mind during my bad days. You’re doing a great job. ❤️
I wonder how I would be if raised with select aspects of many religions, like this, in my childhood. Maybe the world would be better if we all were.
Indeed in everyone is part of truth, matter is know where and accept it
This is the most peaceful channel ever always brings me back down to earth
Welcome back!
This message found me when I needed it most. I’m so disillusioned and lost.
Delve into Buddhism even deeper and see we all are. You are not really lost, you just realized that there is nothing to hold on. Not feeling lost will start in the moment you accept the transitory nature of life and experience.
We're with you 🙏
you are not lost, you were distracted! you will find yourself now if you want to
YOU. ARE. NOT. ALONE.
Hang in there my friend! Wont tell you what to do or how to do it. Your going to figure out your own path in life. Will suggest staying offline. Put your phone down. Go outside!
Stay strong...sending some of my energy and light in your direction!! ☮🎶☯️🎨🛐📚🚶♂️🎁LOVE. LIFE. DEAL.
Keep fighting !
I would like to someday write a children book for artists types, how to face rejection with bravery and believe in self, no matter what
I would love to see them in the future. Hope it goes well
That's a cool concept! You have my support 👍
You can do it
@@myxomatosis455 thanks elad
Embrace pain, and you won't suffer. Pain has its usefulness. Makes you stronger, builds character. Suffering, on the other hand, only withers you away. Embrace pain and appreciate the little things with presence. Taste that morning coffee, be in that conversation fully, take your time doing laundry. Don't rush, don't fret, do the things you need to do with attention, like an active meditation. And if you must rush, do it like it were a sport or a workout, and take a nice rest afterward.
A large part of finding happiness is knowing ourselves and how we work. If you know you aren't able to pay attention to something for more than 30 minutes currently, then tackle each problem for 35 minutes (to push your limits just a bit at a time) and take 10 minute breaks. Either way, the solution to solving the problems of the mind, is in the mind. Suffering is the price we pay for superior intelligence. To overcome that price is a level of mastery not everyone can achieve.
I love the way you put everything- it was easy to follow and digest and I totally concur.
It’s a good day when Einzelgänger drops a vide on Eastern Philosophy
Love the Alan Watts quotes.
"Between the first arrow and the second arrow, there is space."
This reminds me of what Victor Frankl said about stimulus and response.
The last part about sailing and becoming skilful sailors reminds me of the song "Life is like a Boat".
As a buddhist with social anxiety I can confirm that this is accurate 🙏🙏🙏
Ayee I'm Buddhist too
"The desire of avoiding negative experiences is in itself a negative experience and the desire of accepting negative experiences is in itself a positive experience"
- Mark Manson, "Subtle art of not giving a fuck"
That’s actually from Alan Watts but Mark Manson adopted it
@@now591 Excuse me
"He who takes arrow in knee,
Gives up adventuring for guard duty."
Lol, Skyrim forever ! 👍😉
I legit was going to make a Skyrim joke
@@InsideTheJoshMind indeed, I was about to do it just the same 😉
Fus ro dah! 🙌
@ yeahhh ! 👍😉😎
“Buddhist teachings benefit us in transforming from helpless floaters to skillful sailors”.
I am new to this channel. The narrative and dialogue has already touched me from within. Subscribed.
Mình rất vui vì có 1 kênh tiếng Anh nói về chân lý sống, lẽ thật, bài học Phật (người giác ngộ) dạy! Vì thông tin thật sự hữu ích, thông tin mà nếu con người hiểu thì con người sẽ biết thương mình và thương người khác thật sự. Ngôn ngữ bằng tiếng Anh thì thông tin sẽ được truyền rộng rãi hơn.
Nhưng mình thấy số lượng lượt đăng ký, lượt xem hàng vài triệu thì là còn ít, nó phải là vài chục triệu hoặc hơn.
Mình thấy có video bản nhạc trẻ nội dung trai gái yêu nhau đau khổ mà mấy trăm triệu lượt xem.
Chênh lệch vậy, bảo sau chiến tranh không còn nhiều trên thế giới này.
Mình có một mơ ước sau này cất được một cái thư viện nhỏ tại địa phương mình. Mình đã nhờ đọc sách mà mở mang trí tuệ, sống an vui hơn trước, nên cũng muốn bà con cũng dùng cách này mà bớt si, tham, sân hơn.
When there is anxiety, you don't fight the anxiety. You observe it and allow it to exist, and then keep living anyway. The anxiety is not you. It is your young teacher.
wow. nicely said. thanks.
"It always seems impossible until its done."
Sharing some love with all of you, I believe in you fellow reader you will Succeed💜
My beloved dog of 12 years passed away, I thought I was ready, I was disconnecting myself from him, trying to avoid the pain of seeing him sick, now that he is gone the pain and suffering I’m experiencing right now is worst I’ve ever felt. Don’t avoid pain and suffering, it lets you know how much you loved someone or something, it’s a beautiful part of life, the more you avoid it, the more you will suffer, I wish I didn’t distance myself to avoid the pain but here I am crying and tortured. Run towards pain and suffering and you will have something better then stupid “Happiness”, you will have inner peace. F**k happiness, it’s overrated.
Sorry for your loss 🙏🏻 keep practicing ‘present moment “ and also the homeopathic remedy ignatia will keep you with the grief
God bless you
Oh gosh, I did that too and the pain of regret is still heavy
There is no action of detachment needed but an awakening that nothing in life is tangible and permanent, nothing and no one really 'belong' to us., it's the reality no matter you accept it or not
Thank you so much for the videos you make! I wish I could send more! I watch and rewatch and send your videos to friends and family often! How you share/illustrate the Buddhist, Taoist, and Stoic teaching have brought me so much understanding and peace! I was in such a bad place when I started learning and now I am at more peace than I have been in my whole life! Words can not express how thankful I am for your channel, Dharma Doug, and Venerable Nick’s channel!
I avoided the first arrow, but twisted my ankle doing it, that pissed me off!
it’s amazing reading all perspectives on pain , from all around the world with different lives. we’re all one in the end 🦋
I was suffering lol when I came across this video. And although I tried to let it go but it was obstinate and would pop up causing me to suffer anyway. I do not like the “situation” that caused me pain but I will no longer allow it to cause me more pain by suffering. This teaching reinforced that I could really let it go. Very empowering. Very healing. Thanks
Personally, I don't think you have to necessarily forget the good times because "it already slipped through your fingers" or move on from the bad events as soon as it happens. Doing so, you are guaranteed to ensure eternal inner peace, but you're not living life the way it was intended to.
Remember every experiences, good and bad. Dwell on your emotions as long as it takes you to understand them. There is no deadline for personal development. When you've learnt what you need to learn from the experiences, let it go.
If you're unwilling to learn from these experiences, you would be running away from the unpleasant to pursue the pleasant, which is exactly what Buddha taught us not to do.
I find immense solace in your videos. As I’m sure many people do. Thank you for what you do.
Pain is part of the human experience. It can grow and change us, yet we do not have to embrace suffering and sorrow, so do go easy on yourself. Whatever you do today, let it be enough!!
I needed this now! Thank you! Stay blessed!
"From helpless floaters, to skillful sailors". Beautiful.
This channel has saved my life in so many ways - wonderful video - I soaked every word of it 🙏🏻
A lot of people think of material possessions when thinking of worldly things but not wanting to be attached to worldly things would also mean not wanting to be attached to people which also means to be devoid of the kind of connection we are used to.
This is a very difficult kind of lifestyle to have
Your videos are just so so good. Thank you for making these! 🤍 you all.
I've come back to this video a few times & it definitely helps me find peace & understanding within myself. Thank you for making this video.
My spiritual journey made me reconsider pain/ suffering. After living with severe treatment resistant depression, anxiety, BPD aspergers and ocd I realised my pain was there for a reason and there were lessons/are still lessons i need to learn from it. suffering builds character is something I've lived by since being young. I learnt what suffering was very early, which is why I think I managed to find a way to use it to my advantage. I still have a lot of bad days, but when the good days come, I realise why I was suffering and what its trying to tell me.
I love your work so much, and it's bizarre how often one of your videos pops up in my feed, addressing a thought or need I may not even be aware of as the video starts to play. I don't understand this, but it's pretty amazing, and most certainly welcome
This was very helpful. Thank you for taking the time to put it out there.
Really calling me out on my social anxiety.
So pain is only having one arrow, suffering is having two arrows? Got it.
😂😆
@jesus walks He clearly has two arrows in his leg.
Philosophy is not for you then
No, pain is not seeing the 2nd arrow coming
These kind of videos help so many people. Thank you for uploading them.
Balance, having balance and Awareness
“Take the pain!”
-platoon
Cheers
*_"The first arrow is unavoidable, the second one is optio--"_*
**He who hits first hits twice.*
DANG IT.
Thank you for everything! 😍😭
Thank you for your time 💯
And thank you all there support him and his words and work 🙏🏽💕
Always love your videos, topics, and the visuals you use. Always happy to see when you upload!
Amazing! Keep up the great content. :-)
My whole life has been suffering tho, ive thought about ending it alot of times.
Appreciate it
Stay strong man! It does get better, I promise you!
I had thought of that so many times but trust me it will get better and you will look back damm iam glad I made the right decision
Stay strong we gonna go through this
I watched this video yesterday, and thanks to it, I suffered almost no damage from the second arrow of my upcoming anxiety following the sense of resentment. It’s like being able to defuse the bomb inside yourself when you know it’s going to explode very soon.
Well writen. 👏👏 This is what I need at the moment. Thank you for sharing this with us, may God bless you.
Needed this badly, thank you Einzelganger
i love your voice..so calming relaxing comforting like a warm blanket in cold day..happy ears
This was a great video. I was in desperate need of this, Thank you!
Even by your sublime standards, this is off-the-chart rad! Thank you 🙏🏻
Your videos have helped me getting through a severe depressive period of my life. Your videos help lifes! Never stop doing what you do. I thank you with all my heart for your help
I'm in severe depression right now. I
@@pixieheart9303 Stay strong. All I can say is that things will get better.
@@pixieheart9303 I’m soo sorry for your suffering, I am seeing the blue sky in sight thru the deep waters of anguish. Survival, soon transformed thru the unbearable pressure and buffering. Good will come of it.
@@rebootukology1014 I'm praying for it. Thank you
Damn I've been trying to avoid pain by not cutting off my fingers when chopping vegetables. Guess I won't do that anymore! Thanks!
Lol
It optional
*** LIFE CHANGING ***
THANK YOU 1000 TIMES
Thank you, since i started watching your content two or three years ago i develloped an interest in taoism and budhism and i feel better.
Turn you pain into art.
Maybe i should start writing and see what happens. Thanks for the message
@@Herrarnaldo --yes...writing works. After ten years of struggling and writing, my first book is in production with the publisher.
@@Herrarnaldo My pleasure :) you'll be ok!
@@nom5205 Well done bro! Will be a good read :)
The first arrow represents unavoidable pain from life. The second arrow represents optional things like anger, resentment and worry. We can choose to just let go of this upset that causes suffering.
I needed this more than I knew. Thank you 🙏🏽
This is one of the single best if not best videos ever recorded.
Literally Everyone needs to watch and understand this!
IMO, suffering is an ongoing reaction to pain, even after the thing that caused the pain is gone or done. So why are we still reacting to it once it's over? Is it the memory of the thing happening in the first place? Is suffering really just the ongoing reliving of painful moments?
Consider the "Revision" technique (amongst others) described by Neville Goddard ..changes the way your subconscious processes your thinking & feeling ... very successfully.
If there is an arrow in your knee just ask yourself why you can't ignore it.
@@paulgoogol2652 I think it's a little different with physical pain. But on the other hand, there are surfers who've gotten their arm bitten off by a shark and as soon as they are physically able they go right back to the ocean. So it seems as though it's possible.
The problem arises when people think that what they do in life is going to change external circumstances. No matter what we do in life, there'll always be something that's outside of our control so it's important to do whatever you can and simply accept whatever comes your way that you couldn't change and work within those limitations.
Spoke like a true stoicism, brother.
Just lost my grandfather yesterday and this video pops up. Thank you for making this video
In regards to problems, better defined = easier to solve. And this video supplies a very great distinction. Well done!
Embrace pain to know you're alive if it is inevitable, and avoid unnecessary pain by reminding yourself that you are alive.
It's hard not to suffer with a chronic pain condition and so many physical aliments...
Trueeeeee. I felt that
I think thats the critical point on this philosophy. If people expect from themselves and others not to suffer it can reduce empathy. Suffering, which is normal for human beings, can get something of your controll. So its just your fault, if you suffer. Fault is also a feeling of suffering, and i think its a very common feeling these times.
It's ez: just don't wish for something else and all suffering ends right away
Severe chronic pain IS suffering. So is severe emotional turmoil stemming from physical/biological causes. You can try to manage the way you think about it and yourself (the second arrow) but really being tortured beyond your physical limits is a different animal than the everyday, lower intensity, emotional angst he’s talking about in this video.
@@Gt3ch pain and suffering are not the same things
i am deeply thankful for all of your videos.. thank you ❤️
Thank you for sharing wisdom through these videos!
7:11 i already suscribed and happy to have made that decision 👍🏽
Oh. I didn't notice the option of subscribe. But anyways, I subscribed too!
So nobody is calling mom, huh? :D
To be honest sometimes i feel like im suffering the most when experiencing no pain
This might be due to attachment to desires and expectations of certain outcomes
Ill trade with ya~
Amazing time to be alive, that anyone with internet can access such wisdom. Great video
Thank you for sharing this wisdom. Precious. Need to put this mindfully into practice starting with awareness.
*"Peace comes from within, do not seek it without."*
- Gautama Buddha
Be like the rocky headland on which the waves constantly break. It stands firm and round it the seething waters are laid to rest.
@@catseyes2334 it's a good analogy, no point in over complicating its simple meaning
@@pincopallino69 it's not a good analogy
I think this is the most beautiful video you made so far
I'm going through DBT, and this precious distinction is a fundamental point. Radically accepting what I have no control over, including experienced emotions, has made a big difference in my life. Thank you, your videos as usual are very clear and pleasant to watch! 👋 from France 🇫🇷
"Being strong doesn't means, letting the second arrow hits you "
- Dikdik Assiddiq
Probably the single religion that is legit without mystically bullshit !❤
Taoism also.
you mean the philosophy not "beliefs" because well, go read about the "religion" of Buddhism, it is more mystical than the Abrahamic religions.
Super strongly distilled brother 🙏🏼 great job
Change is just another word for life!!! Daaaaaaaaaamn
"Are you hurt or are you damaged?"
Something I still remember one of my elementary PE teachers always asking us. Granted, the walk it off practice can go too far, but today's athletes are showing us that the other direction can go too far. Biles quit the Olympic games, that she was dominating, because of Twitter stress according to her own Tweets.
Q:- How to suffer less?
A:- enjoy more
This was such a wonderful video to watch. I have been on a zen Buddhist journey for a few years now so it is nice to watch a video like this that hits on some core elements through the deeper perspective that I have now. Thank you for making this.
Love your vids! They're always so helpful and informative.