life is suffering
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This channel or psychology in general is very good at explaining the human condition but it just doesn't match the reality we see. It doesn't help an addict or someone with clinical depression.
I still think that we pay a lot of lip service to mental health issues but when it comes down to it we are totally in the dark and unequipped to help those who need help.
Regardless of the fact that life is suffering and that these words wonderfully explain why and how we suffer, they don't provide solutions.
After years of suffering and losing everything that you held dear and then after years of talking to a therapist or a monk and absorbing their wise words and apt quotes you walk out with the conclusion that I am still suffering but now I think I know why I am suffering and that is as good as it gets.
Some get a lot worse and others learn to carry on while tolerating the pain depending on their genetics or social and economic standings.
Freud started as a neurologist but since there was hardly anything that he could do to help the poor souls he saw around him he turned to psychology. At least then he could see the middle class in a comfortable office and talk about sex.
There are conditions that are now being helped at least somewhat effectively that used to be considered psychological and havig to do with too much or too little masturbation like tourette syndrome and femalehysteria.
Hopefully understanding the brain and understanding the neurology of some of these problems will one day help us out of these paradoxical words of wisdom but until then all we have are these pretty stories.
please shill gabor mate some more
@@nirgunawish What does Gabot Mate have to do with it? He too, is only describing the causes and mechanics without providing any solutions. That is what I was trying to explain.
Life is roblox
@@airb0ll304 Do you mean that life is a game or something to turn into a game?
Either way, I don't understand the relevance.
We are living a fate worse than hell.
6:13 "he became the parent to himself" crying over this line and consoling myself at the same time, while washing the dishes 🥲
It's a pity that suffering is not distributed equally. Some people get a hell of a lot more suffering than others (due to lifelong bad health for example).
True that
how can i accept this
@@sydbarrett5693drugs
@@sydbarrett5693 hard question. Ask someone who went through the worst, read biographic books
@sydbarrett5693 I don't know
I'm fifty nine I don't think i've accepted it
Hopefully there is a god
Because he's got some splaining to do!
Regarding the last video: It's painful to deal with our past and at times we might have to deal with it our whole lives, but if we stay at the middle point where we're always confronting it, we will never actually accept what has happened to it and learn from it. Just like the victim of a burglary is very likely not going to cry for the rest of their life over the 50€ that were stolen from them, we cannot stay lamenting about what has happened to us forever because we'll end up being an eternal victim, never taking control of our emotions and accepting what has happened to us.
I need to hear this
in a way we prolong our victimhood, right?
What if you’re the burglar and it haunts you every day
@@smokeydesperado170 Then you can dedicate your life, in whole or in part, to make sure no other burglaries happen
I needed this.
8:41 “To be curious is to admit that we know little about who we actually are.” This is liberating.
If other dimensions exists , i hope the world is less fucked up there
My mom just got cancer again. Let's see how this suffering fits into my new relational home.
Be well, love yourselves and others, all. ❤
I hope she gets well soon, and I hope you remember to take care of yourself as well. Everything’s gonna be okay
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Try sodium bicarbonate for treatment. Read Tullio Simoncini book.
stay strong you and your mother, wish you the best man
@sleepyvasi3498 Why don't you STFU since you don't lnow the future?
I’m sorry
When suffering comes knocking at your door, let it in, sit with it, tend to it and be a good host. Don’t try to chase it away or run away from it, it would catch hold of you one way or another. Make friends with it and you won’t be taken aback when it visits you next :)
So true
Deep. True.
You mean my lifetime of drug abuse and escapism was for nothing?? That tracks lol
@@i-love-comountains3850yeah drug abuse is like that. Simply running from the suffering and translating it into a different form. I know firsthand. Though everyone does as we are all addicted to comfort.
No.
Suffering is the only truly universal human experience...
Life is pretty ruthless and yet....calm.
it's amazing how you always push some button that makes me feel fond of life but also sad. Your videos take me back to the feeling I got when I first questioned the point of me living. Much appreciation to you
There is the Japanese term that summarizes that feeling exactly - Mono no aware. Throw that into wikipedia for a more in-depth reading on the concept.
I hope you found that reason to live. You are needed in this world
"You don't need to change in order to belong. You just need to understand that you already do belong."
thank you for making this, sisyphus ❤
Dude fr. That hit me like a truck
The united states military is using technology and manpower to protect deviant sadistic Child SAers that are misusing their access to advanced tools to spy on, harass, and forcibly SA children.This sometimes follows them into adulthood. Children that are still too young to know that what they are seeing is not normal are being exposed to disgusting deviant content that is forcibly shown to them by hacking their devices. Many victims may not even know they have been targeted by this, because the majority of the actual SA happens when they are slipped something that incapacitates them or they are asleep, the only reason they might know is because the perpetrator may leave behind physical evidence, like bruises, scratches, or bodily fluids. If a victim discovers what has happened to them these worms will misuse equipment and manpower to stalk, shame, mock, and generally try to make the lives of the people affected by this as hellish as possible both offline and online. They follow victims in person and try to intimidate or harass them. They generally use different people who act as though they aren't affiliated with each other and don't do anything they can be arrested for at the time of the harassment. They think they can shame and mock victims into silence because some of what happens is coerced. These are depraved cowards that gather in groups to harass solitary women and children just to protect deviant SAers
After days years, months and Day's hours. And minutes today I couldn't take it anymore and I started to cry and I was in extreme pain . I'm dealing with a lot of health issues spacaily a sexual disorder. I was searching ways on the internet to get rid of it and finally I realized that I'm not the only one. Afterwards I did research on the other health problems I have and I found out people suffer with it for there entire life. I just realized something. You can't get rid of suffering. The world is really burning. Each single minute millions of people are suffering. I just felt a sense of calmness and I suddenly understood that the need to recover from my illness are just not that worthy. Because there's no meaning. The whole world is burning. And I just have to give up and accept it . I atchuly feel much calmer now and I don't care about anything. Because I realized that this suffering can not be avoided. So I just live and actually I don't have big dreams. I won't chase any desire anymore. I just realized that it's not worthy. I don't feel a need to go behind desire anymore it feels so calm.to let go of everything 😌
Hey, i read your comment, and it kinda reminded me of myself, as someone who has been suffering from chronic pain and insomnia for years trust me, I understand, and i am not gonna try to give you that optimistic talk to find joy and ilumination in the suffering , only people who havent experienced real suffering go through that , but you shouldn't give up on yourself, your hopes and your desires, than you wouldn't just be suffering but you would be suffering on vain, dont let the world win, you dont know how many time ive been in crucifing pain takling to myself, telling the life, the universe whatever all this mess is that it has won , but as long as i am alive i cant except that, and you shouldn't either, just beacuse there are other people suffering like us dont make it right, most propaly we might never get better and shouldn't get our hopes up but yet we should stop trying , we are gonna suffer anyway wether in rebelion or exeptence.
“See, to live is to suffer. But to survive, well, that's to find meaning in the suffering” - DMX
There is no meaning in suffering.
@sneakerbabeful If there is no meaning in suffering, there can be no meaning in happiness. And if there is no meaning in happiness, then rebel against meaninglessness by making your own.
X did give it to us, they were right!
@@pugbro2297
Meaninglessness isn't so bad🤷♂️
@@pugbro2297cope
To live is to suffer,to survive is to find the meaning in the sufferings.
sisyphus never fails to ruin my day😇
this video is so heartening wdym
@@awesomesauce1157Yeah seriously, idk what dude is on about.
@@awesomesauce1157probably has em thinking too hard
I think it's sacrasm. Something just to throw the comments into a frenzy.
@@baneofaraarasirdubious5614yes
One must imagine Sisyphus happy.
As the great psychopath jerma985 says: "LIFE IS PAIN I HATE M-"
I used to find the Buddha's teaching that life is suffering weird and pessimistic. But as I grow older... Well I think the Buddha is just being realistic haha. What I love about Buddhism is that the Buddha doesn't just stop at "Life is Suffering". But he taught us how to navigate ourselves through life too. The more I learn about Buddhism, the more I understand why and how. But yeah mostly it revolves around being aware and mindful of our own thoughts and consciousness. Great video once again Sisyphus
It is a common misconception to assume Buddhism implies suffering is essence which is not what he's saying. "There is suffering" is more accurate, as in suffering in itself does not exist, but perception of such does. Just as someone has a terrible life, and another a beautiful and healthy one, the qualia of suffering by degree could be entirely inverted based on the constitutions of the individual. Thus suffering is not the same, or definable as an essential part of reality, but a subjective experience like love.
👏👏👏@@Galvvy
@@Galvvy yes! And I recently discovered a line from Visuddhimagga that does "There is suffering, but no one suffers". I think it mainly revolves around the teaching of Sunyata. And I thought that is amazing
The idea made me stop feeling sorry for myself because my life doesn't look like the perfect instagram influencer. Everybody is going through shit.
Life sucks & then you die, may as well make the most of it and fight back when you can. I’m going to enjoy it, no one can stop me
"fuck you, im gonna live anyway" based
Albert Camus is strong in you. 🎉
@@Bat_Boy who
@@uydagcusdgfughfgsfggsifg753 read his stuff i think youll relate
@@uydagcusdgfughfgsfggsifg753 - Google / TH-cam is your pal.👍😉
your videos are the ones i look forward to the most, yet i’m always momentarily afraid to click on them before watching. so many hard truths. but i leave inspired and with a refreshed feeling every time
I ugly cried at 9:06 , just thinking about that last line still makes me tear up now
bawling my eyes out with a smile. These are all lessons I had already read, but how you presented them made them resonate much more. Thanks for helping so many people open up, communities like this give me hope in humanity ❤
5:23 my philosophy is that, life can be always more painful in all manners of ways and you gotta make peace with the pain you already feel and be grateful it's not worse.
Although true comparative suffering is pitiful and a huge waste.
I love that I can now acknowledge pain and suffering in my life as a learning opportunity. Also I love your videos thank you for all the effort you put into them. You’ve helped show people like me there is hope in this meaningless world
no one cares
That was a damn good video, props to you Sisyphus and HouseCat
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Stonework????
god i love this channel, thank you for everything
All of your comments and inputs inspired me to make one of my own. First off Sisyphus55, thankyou for both creating and sharing your work in a place where people are… sort of free to share there ideals. I love the animation and listening to how you present your ideas has literally made me think better in life. It’s as if I’ve been making 3-D connections between depression, heartbreak, loss, suffering, escapism, will power and overthinking. I’ve been watching nearly every video you’ve made since I fell into a depressive episode last spring. Though I am seeing results I still am fleeing from work, but after all this time the obstacle finally doesn’t look that bad.
Thankyou and I wish you well for all you’ve done for me.
Life just really sucks.
i feel like this is one of your best yet
counterpoint: Garlic Bread
I love you Sisyphus you always give me a new perspective and rewatching your videos is always a helpful reminder for me.
This is the bad place
We're actually in hell.
As if I didn’t have enough existential dread in the morning, and then you drop this. Joy.
Your videos are so beautiful and I’m so happy that I came down this path of self improvement and not the red pill content that most teens my age falls into. And I think videos like yours help we accept my weakness and be more kind to my self and your videos help me though my 1st ever brake up and it helped me come out a better person and thank you for that. I love your videos and always look forward to them
Thanks for putting ads at the end. Really helps the flow. Great video as always ❤
7:11 Recently moved to a new school outside my country and lately it’s been one hell of an experience to adjust, esp with my social anxiety. Just when I was questioning my decision to apply for this school, this pops up. The timing of this video couldn’t be more perfect, thanks.
Been going troughout a lot lately and this video just makes everything a little bit easier, thank you for this
This is beautiful. Thank you.
This is beautiful and I feel like more people should hear this
Suffering is why I'm an antinatalist. I don't wanna bring kids into a world full of inevitable suffering and death.
This helped me understand myself and my behaviors. Thank you so much!
9:25 that is hard to swallow. and a very bold claim.
it's funny seeing this video when about an hour ago, as i was bathing i started pondering out loud about the value and necessity of suffering within our lives and whether it is truly necessary.
your timing is so scary at times lol. been struggling in life for a while after i lost my job and people who I taught were my friends while dealing with old traumas
Idk a lot of ppl talk abt these videos making them sad but in a way they’re like comfort, knowing you’re not alone and understanding yourself better
It’s been difficult, thank you for this.
Thank you, Sisyphus, for this deeper dive into buddhism. I think you’ve articulated the constant nature of pain and the importance of grappling with it to continue one’s development very well. I think this video has the potential to be very touching for some, like how many of your other videos have been so touching for me.
If this video makes sense to you, you in the comments reading this, and you believe that your mind can become a comfortable, loving home, I implore you to take up a meditation practice. It will feel like nothing is happening, but with time (I started noticing genuine change in my behavior for the better within a month), active exploration of your inner landscape and a continuous, ever-unending acceptance of pain, suffering is avoidable and equanimity is inevitable. If you believe in putting in the work for yourself, for your mind, body and spirit and you want a more highly attuned existence, meditate.
On a semantic note, I believe it is more productive to relate to the sentiment “Pain is inevitable, suffering is not” or for short “Life is Pain”. The key difference between pain and suffering being that pain is the pure experience of hurt, the signal from your body/mind that something is negatively effecting oneself whereas suffering is simply one’s reaction to pain which then results in hardship. One can recognize pain and not suffer.
Thank you again for your videos, Sisyphus. I relate to all of them so deeply 🙏
Life is suffering. We live it for happiness.
i'm from brazil and this is one of my favorite channels. your videos are so well thought out, you bring so much quotes and analysis to super interesting topics, while the visuals and audio are so peaceful and entertaining. this is modern philosophy in its higher form. thanks a lot for posting
absolutely loved this! kinda needed it too lol. thanks for making these videos man never stop learning and spreading your learning
Music and movies are my friends and family. They might let me down, but they are so many, I can move on and experience others who will not do so.
Same
“you simply need to learn to be kind to yourself” that’s tough sisyphus 😮💨
Thank you for providing this information. It's really helping me a lot Everytime I see your videos. 🙏
Love how the caption says : posted 17 seconds ago. Reflects my fondness of your work
Just wanted to thank you for this video man idk what it was but it released something that I’ve been keeping in for so long and man it feels better thank you man
Hey there man, just want to say I hope you’re doing alright. If you need to talk, you can reach out. And know to never give up in your suffering either 🩵 please make sure to take care of yourself too, and know that Jesus loves you and He is there to help carry your burdens. He loves you, died, and rose for you to provide you with everlasting life and peace. So you can turn to Him as He always has open arms for you too. Remember you are loved and worthy. I hope this encourages you friend!
I've seen you've been uploading rather frequently, I love your videos, the style, presentation and the way you break down otherwise abstract concepts and perspectives for people is an excellent contribution the world, although I haven't kept up with the uploads as i'm used to your slower rate of releases (and myself trying to spend a lot less time on youtube lol) I get the sense that somethings have happened.
I just want to say I appreciate you, wholeheartedly, and wish you all the best in life, i'll be sure to catch up on your videos but in the meantime please take care of yourself and take it easy,
Much love,
Stranger on the internet,
♥
Loving Attention has allowed my relationship with alcohol to change hugely and organically after many years of trying to force that change. I’ve experienced the possibility that can be found in extreme self love and acceptance. It’s a journey I’m glad to be on . I see many others here as well and I am glad. I say the five remembrances every morning during my morning meditation time. It’s helped me come to terms with the inevitability of loss. If loss is inevitable and my only power is in my actions then I find myself feeling empowered to take meaningful action .
adding another tally mark to how close your recents have hit home HARD :')
This really is a beautiful channel
trauma from feeling rejected and unworthy due to family’s conditional love is something I tend to be struggling with…😒
I needed this, thankyou
i find your videos very helpfull during creative work, you really help my mind get its think tank running, please keep up the good work. i highly appercitate your knowldege
You are a very talented author and speaker. this is the best video I've watched on this subject
Watching this in the lobby of the hospital after my girlfriend passed out from vomiting a lot of blood. Its been a long night and this helped a lot.
I love your stuff, man. Keep it up.
Animation, as per usual, was charming and augmented the experience of your essay ❤
The United States uses military resources meant to keep us safe to spy on, torture, groom, and harass victims of pedophilic abuse.
Victims are groomed and forcibly shown deviant sexual content at ages as young as 6 years old. They hack the household devices, including hijacking the television while a child is up and alone. They are forcibly shown deviant content involving animals or disgusting acts that would be illegal for an adult. They target victims this young because this is the age that fetishes are developed and children this young are not capable of understanding what they are seeing is not normal. They are intentionally grooming defenseless children into deviant sexualities. This is also a way to shame victims into silence, they think the more deviant and depraved they are with children, they will be less likely to speak out about what happened to them out of shame.
In person they will encourage children below puberty to engage in deviant sexual acts and try to convince them this is normal behavior. Both children and adults are molested and raped through the use of substances that render them unconscious and the only reason a victim might know that something has occurred is because they leave body fluids in or around the victim.
When the victims get older there is use of an advanced AI that alters content that they see by inserting references and imagery that would seem normal to other people but has special meaning to the torture victim. This will be repeated again and again indefinitely.
This is both for the purposes of psychological torture and to provoke violence
Some people are being intentionally tortured throughout their entire lives, they may target them because they think they are easy prey or maybe they were just attracted to that particular child.
They use innocuous symbols because there is plausible deniability . A victim that was deviantly groomed by pedophiles is repeatedly shown something related to their exploitation. Like a rapist that rapes a woman with a common object for the purposes of torture. They want the victim to relive the trauma as much as possible. The use of weaponized AI would manipulate algorithms to show them what the torturers wanted them to see. The AI would do the grunt work of content modification and categorization.
ur visuals keep getting better and better without loosing the sketchy, lofi element
Sisyphuss 55, thank you for sharing your knowledge and journey.
Thank you Sisyphus!
Absolutely great video my dude 👍
if you're struggling with depression, anxiety, intrusive thoughts and negative self talk like i was(and from time to time still am), i suggest you read the book the happiness trap.
wow, books curing mental illness! nice joke, terrible advive which can lead to someone's condition may become only worse or even lead to the su!cide of that person
I suggest you fill a toilet with excrement and then stick your head into it.
It's been long since I watched a whole episode but this one hit so hard.
Powerful video. Thank you
Wow! This is art just as much as it is philosophy. Excellent work.
thanks as always!
Ah just what I needed to raise my spirits
It was so therapeutic to watch this video with the sound turned off instead my music and reading the subtitles
The Housecat is incredible! Their visual representation could not be more fitting
Wow, thank you man, this really helped
Your videos are brilliant! You have a new subscriber!
I know life has it's toils yet at the same time there has to be some respite from constant pain. I yearn for the day my suffering will stop. The cruelty of humans has taken it's toll on me. I just want a group of Angels to come take me away. I can't take the heartache and abuse anymore.
Rock and stone!
It will end.
@@thorodinson6649 for KARL!
Thank you. I am dealing with an unimaginable about of grief and loss right now and I don’t know how to handle it all
The United States uses military resources meant to keep us safe to spy on, torture, groom, and harass victims of pedophilic abuse.
Victims are groomed and forcibly shown deviant sexual content at ages as young as 6 years old. They hack the household devices, including hijacking the television while a child is up and alone. They are forcibly shown deviant content involving animals or disgusting acts that would be illegal for an adult. They target victims this young because this is the age that fetishes are developed and children this young are not capable of understanding what they are seeing is not normal. They are intentionally grooming defenseless children into deviant sexualities. This is also a way to shame victims into silence, they think the more deviant and depraved they are with children, they will be less likely to speak out about what happened to them out of shame.
In person they will encourage children below puberty to engage in deviant sexual acts and try to convince them this is normal behavior. Both children and adults are molested and raped through the use of substances that render them unconscious and the only reason a victim might know that something has occurred is because they leave body fluids in or around the victim.
When the victims get older there is use of an advanced AI that alters content that they see by inserting references and imagery that would seem normal to other people but has special meaning to the torture victim. This will be repeated again and again indefinitely.
This is both for the purposes of psychological torture and to provoke violence
Some people are being intentionally tortured throughout their entire lives, they may target them because they think they are easy prey or maybe they were just attracted to that particular child.
They use innocuous symbols because there is plausible deniability . A victim that was deviantly groomed by pedophiles is repeatedly shown something related to their exploitation. Like a rapist that rapes a woman with a common object for the purposes of torture. They want the victim to relive the trauma as much as possible. The use of weaponized AI would manipulate algorithms to show them what the torturers wanted them to see. The AI would do the grunt work of content modification and categorization.
this is so beautiful i almost creid
*One Must Imagine Sisyphus Happy.*
WOOOHOOO you know it’s goin be a good day when sisyphus uploads😎
This makes me feel a sense of hope I have not had in quite a while. I think I can see a way out now.
Hope you’re doing well man
Thank you, man. Really.
Not all suffering is created equal
I just wanted to share that I often have auditory hallucinations, most of which are very unpleasant. A couple days ago i hallucinated you saying “nice job” after I made myself some Mac N Cheese and it was honestly more support than I had gotten all week. So thank you Sisyphus
Thanks for reminding me!
FML this video is what i'm running away from. It took me years to realize that i'm not tired of life, i'm tired of an sick society wich confronts me with never ending symptoms...
Your video is uploaded at a scarily convenient time for me, as always.
same, he really knows when his viewers are going through it lol
A great exploration of the 4 Noble Truths in Buddhism. Another interesting piece in Buddhism is the 3 characteristics, which highlights certain truths we have trouble accepting and perpetuate our suffering. The first is suffering, as you've explore here, the other two are impermanence and no-self. Impermanence is just the acceptance that nothing lasts, and we spend so much of our time and energy trying to create a sense of permanence or significance, and when we can really accept impermanence we find ourselves so much more free. And no-self points to our true nature, that there isn't anything fixed or consistent about who or what we are, that we exist only in relationship to experience, and when you really inquire into your nature you find a bunch of ideas, but the only consistent thing is awareness itself.
The United States uses military resources meant to keep us safe to spy on, torture, groom, and harass victims of pedophilic abuse.
Victims are groomed and forcibly shown deviant sexual content at ages as young as 6 years old. They hack the household devices, including hijacking the television while a child is up and alone. They are forcibly shown deviant content involving animals or disgusting acts that would be illegal for an adult. They target victims this young because this is the age that fetishes are developed and children this young are not capable of understanding what they are seeing is not normal. They are intentionally grooming defenseless children into deviant sexualities. This is also a way to shame victims into silence, they think the more deviant and depraved they are with children, they will be less likely to speak out about what happened to them out of shame.
In person they will encourage children below puberty to engage in deviant sexual acts and try to convince them this is normal behavior. Both children and adults are molested and raped through the use of substances that render them unconscious and the only reason a victim might know that something has occurred is because they leave body fluids in or around the victim.
When the victims get older there is use of an advanced AI that alters content that they see by inserting references and imagery that would seem normal to other people but has special meaning to the torture victim. This will be repeated again and again indefinitely.
This is both for the purposes of psychological torture and to provoke violence
Some people are being intentionally tortured throughout their entire lives, they may target them because they think they are easy prey or maybe they were just attracted to that particular child.
They use innocuous symbols because there is plausible deniability . A victim that was deviantly groomed by pedophiles is repeatedly shown something related to their exploitation. Like a rapist that rapes a woman with a common object for the purposes of torture. They want the victim to relive the trauma as much as possible. The use of weaponized AI would manipulate algorithms to show them what the torturers wanted them to see. The AI would do the grunt work of content modification and categorization.
Suffering, although we do not wish it upon ourselves, does make us better people, and helps us grow and mature. Have you ever spoken to a person who’s been through a lot and how they are and how they speak, vs talking to someone who hasn’t suffered much and is still naive? It becomes very obvious.
Wonderful video mate
Your timing on videos is always perfect. Life's a bitch rn. Always really but even more of a bitch recently. Thanks for the videos
You make amazing quality content. This was beautiful
The united states military is using technology and manpower to protect deviant sadistic Child SAers that are misusing their access to advanced tools to spy on, harass, and forcibly SA children.This sometimes follows them into adulthood. Children that are still too young to know that what they are seeing is not normal are being exposed to disgusting deviant content that is forcibly shown to them by hacking their devices. Many victims may not even know they have been targeted by this, because the majority of the actual SA happens when they are slipped something that incapacitates them or they are asleep, the only reason they might know is because the perpetrator may leave behind physical evidence, like bruises, scratches, or bodily fluids. If a victim discovers what has happened to them these worms will misuse equipment and manpower to stalk, shame, mock, and generally try to make the lives of the people affected by this as hellish as possible both offline and online. They follow victims in person and try to intimidate or harass them. They generally use different people who act as though they aren't affiliated with each other and don't do anything they can be arrested for at the time of the harassment. They think they can shame and mock their victims into silence because some of what happens is coerced. These are depraved cowards that gather in groups to harass solitary women and children just to protect SAers
Thank u so much.