Hello everyone, thank you for watching and (hopefully) enjoying our latest video. We'd briefly like to shed light on our recent absence and dip in content the last couple of months. Over the course of this year, we were faced with a couple of setbacks following the impact of creator burnout behind the scenes. To make a long story short: the people behind this channel, a very small team, have been creating a lot of videos non-stop since the channel's inception up until 2020 and that came to a head when circumstances surrounding COVID-19 coupled with mental fatigue forced us to restructure and re-evaluate our ambitions. Regardless, we're happy to report that we've persevered despite these setbacks and are working hard to improve the channel for next year, but more on that later. We hope you'll enjoy the remainder of 2020 with us as we look forward to making 2021 our best year yet!
Your content since day one has been to the best standards in my opinion and unique, it's better to take time but always creating something awesome, like what you guys do. Of course i'll be here in 2021!
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@@Le_Church I know the basics of the x wing series but never played it and jedi outcast is really good. Mysteries of the sith is ite but im sorry but imo they come no where near kotor. Those two games are some of the best in RPGs in gaming period.
"If there is a Mandalorian crusade, let it be for something that will carry your people's memory into the future, so that when the time comes where there are no more Mandalorians, at least their honor will remain."
@Kaden Overstreet I didn't liked Fallen Order, it was more focused on being a souls-like game instead of telling a deep story. Many parts of the lore in this game must be read instead of being organically integrated into the story, you can skip almost every part of the Zeffo's story and you will not lose anything important.
@@normaaliihminen722 Mass Effect is still a better series. A trilogy where your choices effect the outcomes of future games? that was a novelty that is still novel to this day. Kotor is good, but its dated these days.
Kotor I is the only Star Wars game that made me feel like I lived my own movie. Great games, both. Glad Jedi Fallen Order rescued some concepts that haven’t been seen in SW gaming since those two.
@@michaelandreipalon359 That's what every sequel should do but regardless, Jedi Fallen Order is still a fantastic game in of itself and amazing Star Wars piece of media! Fantastic game full of great characters, amazing gameplay, and awesome story!
Statement. Query. Yeah, that guy was legit even if he was kooky. Yeah, I'm designating HK-47 as "male" because, well, I think he wants to murder me if I don't call him such.
I feel like it's a blessing in disguise... While I personally enjoy The Old Republic MMO with its insane amount of story content, I just don't feel like the Bioware of today should be allowed anywhere close to KoTOR. They would fuck it up for sure.
Welp EA is gonna loose exclusivity by 2023 And there was a LucasArts revival so there's hope Obsidian will pick it up I would be happy if they remastered KOTOR 1&2
@@feingesiebtesnudelwasser Bioware lost all of its talented leaders in the last ten or so years. It's a pale shadow of its old self. EA of course had a lot to do with the way it ended up, but the last few disasters Bioware has released are all on Bioware themselves.
I'd trade every current gen game from this year and next year for a good open world star wars game. Ideally something between the styles of Skyrim, kotor, and the original dragon age.
The feeling of the game was incredible and of course all the dialogues with Kreia that are still some of the best written lines I've seen anywhere, ever. Almost every step of the journey was memorable.
I always thought the 1st game's story was better but thats because the characters are so very well intertwined in it. The 2nd was written extremely well like you said its just some of the characters are forgettable
BioWare games from that era are those rare type of games you wish you could forget just so that you can play them again and have that "first playthrough" experience all over again. KoTOR, Mass Effect Trilogy, Jade Empire, Dragon Age Origins, MDK... you know the rest.
Sadly, Ewolf5150 is right, and the same thing applies with Blizzard Entertainment back then (the Warcraft trilogy, the Diablo duology, and StarCraft I) and Blizzard Entertainment right now (Overwatch, World of Warcraft, StarCraft II, and the all too horrifying Warcraft III: Deforged)
@@michaelandreipalon359 exactly! People think it’s the same 20 people still working at these companies that made our favorite games 20 years ago. The founders of BioWare have nothing to do with the company anymore and blizzard is just as bad if not worse. Diablo 2, Warcraft 3, and Starcraft are some of my favorite games of all time. The people who made those games what they were are doing other things now. You can’t capture lightning in a bottle twice.
@@michaelandreipalon359 Diablo I and II were made by a different studio bought by Blizzard to begin with, and Blizzard's involvement has mostly been negative.
*"The California based studio very rarely interfered or attempted to micro managed Bioware's work"* I wish this is always the norm, we would have many great games if this is the norm EA has killed too many great studios, I hope someday EA will get karma'd :P I guess MMO sequels always ruined the potential sequels because they're more profitable and low-effort, like this and Warcraft
I really don't understand MMOs much. But yeah, hope EA gets some well-deserved laser-guided karma, even if it means their home city was blown up by a North Korean/Chinese nuclear missile in real life.
I was 13 when this came out. Went to an EB Games at the mall with my mom and saw it on the shelf. Never heard of it. Liked the cover & love Star Wars so I got my mom to get it for me. Not realizing it was turn based nor being a fan of RPG’s, I hated it... at first. Days later I gave it another chance and now KotOR 1 & 2 remain my favorite Star Wars games of all time and in my top list of favorite games ever.
I didn't hate it but didnt understand how to play it. Add onto that that English isn't my first language, I was like 10 and that I didn't even have an Xbox (had to play at cousin's). Basically we played like 1 hour and dropped it. Years later I finally got to play them, on PC. Man, what an experience. I still play KOTOR 2 to this day (trying to 100% achievements on steam)
@@ProblemOfficer3000 it did grey morality right. You could just not accept this morality and argue against the characters in the game. It didn't force you which I personaly loved.
@@papypoulet Not only that, but the developers of the iOS version, Aspyr, has given a way for the KOTOR II: TSL Restored Content mod to be installed on Apple iOS devices without any jailbreaking! You just need the mobile-ready mod package and you can install it from a computer through iTunes.
His interpretation of The Force is equivalent to an atheist doing a surface reading of the KJV and then thinking that they are qualified to provide theological commentary. Chris Avellone literally did not like Star Wars when he wrote for KOTOR 2. Drew Karpyshyn understands Star Wars, The Force, human interaction, and romance better than Chris Avellone.
Still, I'll just agree to a midpoint of both Avellone's and Karpyshyn's points of view regarding the Force. Better than what the "sequels" churned out too.
@@comicsans1689 That statement is laughable. Drew Karpyshyn's writing is shallow and unimaginative compared to Chris Avellones. If you prefer that level of writing there is nothing wrong with that, but to say " Drew Karpyshyn understands Star Wars, The Force, human interaction, and romance better than Chris Avellone" is like saying a child understands those things better than an adult.
@@r.g.c.3897 It's clear that you haven't seen much of Drew's work if you think his writing is shallow and unimaginative. He was instrumental in the creation of Mass Effect, writing some excellent novels for it. He's also written the critically acclaimed Darth Bane novels in addition to his work on KOTOR, so I would say that he understands Star Wars better than some drunkard who originally didn't even like Star Wars. The only shallow novel that Drew has released is the Revan novel, but to be fair it was shoehorned to fit what SWTOR was doing instead of giving Drew creative freedom. What has Chris Avellone done? To my knowledge, his main writing contributions have been Planescape Torment and KOTOR 2 (you can throw in Alpha Protocol too, but hardly anyone cares about that game). He did contribute some to Fallout 2, but even he admitted that the story and writing in Fallout 2 was a mess. He made some minor contributions to New Vegas's writing, but none of it had any significance to the main story and none of it was interesting (John Gonzales was carrying New Vegas's writing).
It feels very nice to hear such kindnesses being said about Kotor and I am grateful to be given a better perspective of the circumstances these games were made under.
This video was a beautiful trip down memory lane. In my opinion the kotor and kotor2 is the best story in star wars outside of possible the prequels and original trilogy.
Man.. i remember my friend john lent me this game. And i played it and called him a couple times when i was stuck in the beginning.. ugh, aw man what a game.. still one of my favorites of all time..
Yes! Very fond memories of Outcast and Academy. My first rated "T for teen" game (I must have been around 10-12). IMO, best lightsaber combat experience of all time (not sure if anything better has come out since, would love to hear from others). Played KOTOR 2, but didn't have the same impact on me at the time, it recall it being fun but glitchy and I was confused by the story lol. Didn't realize how epic the KOTOR 1 storyline is until years later.
@@joshuasamsoondar Also, the Jedi Knight series are really good to replay these days. Time to dismember more Imps and those blasted Gamorreans and Rodians.
Thank you so much for doing a retrospective on this classic!! This was not only one of the greatest Star Wars games i've ever played but my first experience with Bioware. Also one of my earliest western rpgs (i was mostly only into jrpgs at the time). It blew me away with the depth of choices and customization options. Really got me hooked on western rpgs and future Bioware projects.
@@SpikeStarkey Tried it. Would not recommend. Rife with bugs that made it unplayable and it seems the developer that ported it has since abandoned the project.
Agreed. Kotor 1/2 are two of the best games I ever played and some of the best Star Wars fiction ever created! Still worth having a go today for the insane strength of it's story and interesting characters!
If anyone hasnt played both kotor games go do it, they are on steam, not expensive, they have been and always will be the best starwars games ever made, and I will stand by that statement, I've played through each of them atleast 15 times each over the years since I've been old enough to hold a controller, and dont let disney corrupt starwars, they are both cannon
was not expecting this, i was actually going through some channels im subbed to on here last night and was cleaning them up as i either dont watch them enough anymore or anything else, i seen this channel last and was like "i feel like they'll have a new video soon so they can stay, plus i like watching the older videos anyways." and here we go today, with probably one the videos i've been wanting you guys to cover ever since i found this channel from the dead space video a few years ago.
I still stand strong on my belief that Kotor 2 even in its unfinished state is better in almost every way to Kotor 1. Imagine if they had gotten 2 full years on part 2.
Kotor I had that original Star Wars story but Kotor II story and characters just hold a special place rooted deep inside. probably easily played Kotor II 2-1 to Kotor I both are masterpieces in their own respective way, but my personal opinion sits closer to Kotor II
@@StayHydratedGaming KOTOR 2 has a more refined gameplay in a few aspects, but overall KOTOR 1 is the better experience, plus plot and storytelling are unbeatable
@@federicovesentini3719 may I ask in which way is the storytelling unbeatable? The whole plot of KOTOR I can be defined as the traditional "amnesiac protagonist goes on a journey while being unaware that he's the most important character in the galaxy" thing, and even if it's told in a OK way, the twist just doesn't cut it. Hell, even the background of some of your sidekicks is way more interesting than the revelation of being DR at the third act of the game. KOTOR II on the other hand delves deeper into the meaning of the Force and blurring the concept of good vs evil surrounding the Jedi-Sith myths and cults.
KOTOR is burnt into my brain from finding it on special when I was younger to being obsessed with the storyline and playing multiple times to see the endings. Then years later I finally played the second one and I was blown away by the story. No games since have grabbed me from the start and taken me on a journey. I have my fingers crossed for a TV series or movie starting when Revan was a jedi then moving towards the game.
Yes!! One of my most favorite game game series of all time, which also features two of my favorite characters(also of all time),the realest "grey" jedi,Revan,and his old friend,Malak😊😌
This legitimately felt like a high end, well funded documentary! Absolutely leaving a like and hope to see more from this channel. I honestly dont take the time to acknowledge when Im truly entertained but you guys sincerely earned the shout out. Thank you for this!
"Even after it's events were declared non-canon." In my opinion, the Disney movies are non-canon. EDIT: Because Sequel fans are too stupid to understand the complex nuances of a reference, this is a joke based on Anakin's line in Episode 3. You know, that movie you people never watched, because you only got into Star Wars after Disney started ruining it.
Being declared non cannon is a blessing in disguise. Imagine if Kathleen Kennedy tried to make a KOTOR movie. I shudder to think about how bad that would be.
Speaking of 4k, I wish GVMERS kept releasing their videos in 4k, rather than just 1080. I loved the higher quality videos and don't see why they changed it randomly.
@@ReallyRyan. It's in 4K bro. Other one I watched recently seems to be in 4K as well. Not that it matters when game and gameplay itself is recorded in 1080p (or worse when talking about console releases).
8:03 " . . Knights of of the Old Republic wasn't just a great Star Wars game, it was a great piece of Star Wars fiction, period. One that was on par with the best that the entire franchise had to offer." Well. Fucking. Said.
First played these when they came out as a young fella - now as an adult again just finished kotor2 the other night. Multiple playthroughs of both 1 & 2 in my life. Priceless. Will continue to do so into my old age 👊🏻
I love KOTOR II. It’s far superior than it’s predecessor and pretty much all RPG’s... but I can’t help but wonder how amazing it would have been if Urgaust had just got that agreement in writing!!
Gotta say this video kind of misses a beat only discussing kotor 2 in terms of nihilus, and only mentioning that swtor has revan/not mentioning that it's still ongoing and active.
If Mass Effect's storyline had ended right before the SR-2 goes through the Omega-4 Relay, it'd be one of the greatest pieces of storytelling in any medium... ever. It rolled downhill with ever-increasing speed from the moment they went through that Relay.
KOTOR for me was what the Og trilogy was for people. It introduced me to Star Wars and blew my mind apart, I haven't had anything close to the same experience ever again. It's still my favorite game of all time.
To be honest I would prefer Revan being male and The Exile being female. Other than that whole SWTOR story of Revan was pinnacle of generic movie evil.
Yeah, there's a reason I prefer the Darth Bane trilogy. It ensures that both characters' genders are ambiguous. It kinda felt a bit pointless when the characters we picked aren't the ones that the other Star Wars material utilize.
@@oliviawilliams6204 Makes sense, but at least it's still a great game. Also, thanks for acknowledging it. I honestly don't see much comments with Jade Empire as a topic.
Regardless of its issues, Knights of the Old Republic II is still the strongest piece of Star Wars media to me. Just the scene in the return of the enclave is so unbelievably amazing and puts so much narrative and dramatic weight into an event, that it carries the entire game for me. I've even told people that all of Star Wars and both Kotor games are just prefaces to the reunion at the enclave.
Sith Lords had some *really cool* ideas in it. I liked the 'nothing happens in a vacuum' philosophy. Ultimately though, I found myself on the last planet, and thought: "Why am I here?"... "Hey, Bastilla. This planet has zero civilians, no naval defense, and two mediocre sith. Let's nuke it from orbit."
Hello everyone, thank you for watching and (hopefully) enjoying our latest video. We'd briefly like to shed light on our recent absence and dip in content the last couple of months. Over the course of this year, we were faced with a couple of setbacks following the impact of creator burnout behind the scenes. To make a long story short: the people behind this channel, a very small team, have been creating a lot of videos non-stop since the channel's inception up until 2020 and that came to a head when circumstances surrounding COVID-19 coupled with mental fatigue forced us to restructure and re-evaluate our ambitions. Regardless, we're happy to report that we've persevered despite these setbacks and are working hard to improve the channel for next year, but more on that later. We hope you'll enjoy the remainder of 2020 with us as we look forward to making 2021 our best year yet!
Your content since day one has been to the best standards in my opinion and unique, it's better to take time but always creating something awesome, like what you guys do. Of course i'll be here in 2021!
I love your content, keep up the good work and hope everbody safe from Covid-19. Success for your channel 🍻
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Always a joy to see the notification. Take care of yourselves, keep up the hardwork, and happy to support.
Take it easy guys, your content is uber cool
I love this channel, but I always believe in quality over quantity. Please take care of yourselves, and take your time for a new subject. Happy holidays!
KOTOR remains the best Star Wars anything of all time
lolno.
Agreed
@@Le_Church pls us what's better then? Unless sits kotor 2 then we can agree.
@@TY-km8hj X-Wing Alliance and Jedi Outcast.
Mysteries of the Sith was good too.
@@Le_Church I know the basics of the x wing series but never played it and jedi outcast is really good. Mysteries of the sith is ite but im sorry but imo they come no where near kotor. Those two games are some of the best in RPGs in gaming period.
This was the game that taught me the true meaning of being a Madalorian, to ride s basilisk war droid into glory seeking battle.
This is the way.
Just imagine if the show has him find a basilisk
FOR MANDALORE!!!
"If there is a Mandalorian crusade, let it be for something that will carry your people's memory into the future, so that when the time comes where there are no more Mandalorians, at least their honor will remain."
So do I. I am honoured to find a like-minded fellow.
Great as always. We’d be extremely lucky if Star Wars’ gaming future is even half as bright as the golden age of LucasArts.
Lucas Arts was amazing. Before this, there was Maniac Mansion, Curse of Monkey Island, Grim Fandango. Just amazing adventure games.
EA killed Star Wars games
@Kaden Overstreet True. Fallen Order was like the needle in a haystick of otherwise crappy typical EA games.
@@Fussfackel that needle has pneumonia
@Kaden Overstreet I didn't liked Fallen Order, it was more focused on being a souls-like game instead of telling a deep story. Many parts of the lore in this game must be read instead of being organically integrated into the story, you can skip almost every part of the Zeffo's story and you will not lose anything important.
kotor was the pinnacle of bioware and star wars games
Before the Dark Times, before the Empire
I think the pinnacle was mass effect
I think their best game was Dragon Age Origin, after that it was downhill
@@neswar2882 with KOTOR game they did become industry leader in beginning of 21st century. Without KOTOR Mass Effect wouldn’t gain that huge notice.
@@normaaliihminen722 Mass Effect is still a better series. A trilogy where your choices effect the outcomes of future games? that was a novelty that is still novel to this day. Kotor is good, but its dated these days.
I will never forget the music in this game. Hearing it brings back so many feelings
Agreed it was truly epic in both game
Kotor I is the only Star Wars game that made me feel like I lived my own movie. Great games, both. Glad Jedi Fallen Order rescued some concepts that haven’t been seen in SW gaming since those two.
Hope that Fallen Order sequel surpasses the original in almost every way.
@@michaelandreipalon359 That's what every sequel should do but regardless, Jedi Fallen Order is still a fantastic game in of itself and amazing Star Wars piece of media! Fantastic game full of great characters, amazing gameplay, and awesome story!
I still remember that sadistic assassin droid. He was the best companion
Amazing seeing hk47 reborn in mandolorian s1. Mannerism was on point.
Statement.
Query.
Yeah, that guy was legit even if he was kooky.
Yeah, I'm designating HK-47 as "male" because, well, I think he wants to murder me if I don't call him such.
16:12 "until Bioware and EA get their acts together".
So. Never.
I feel like it's a blessing in disguise... While I personally enjoy The Old Republic MMO with its insane amount of story content, I just don't feel like the Bioware of today should be allowed anywhere close to KoTOR. They would fuck it up for sure.
Welp EA is gonna loose exclusivity by 2023
And there was a LucasArts revival so there's hope Obsidian will pick it up
I would be happy if they remastered KOTOR 1&2
They should just let Obsidian make it
@@thewolverine9062 Modern Obsidian has really lost all of its talent. Most of the great people behind KOTOR 2 don't even work there anymore.
@@feingesiebtesnudelwasser Bioware lost all of its talented leaders in the last ten or so years. It's a pale shadow of its old self. EA of course had a lot to do with the way it ended up, but the last few disasters Bioware has released are all on Bioware themselves.
*grabs popcorn*
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sheeesh yes sir 😎😎😎
I'd trade every current gen game from this year and next year for a good open world star wars game. Ideally something between the styles of Skyrim, kotor, and the original dragon age.
*pure pazaak*
It's you!
KOTOR 2 remains one of the best written games I've ever played. Bury My Heart on Malachor V.
Agreed its been my username since I first played all those years ago 👆👆 lol
The feeling of the game was incredible and of course all the dialogues with Kreia that are still some of the best written lines I've seen anywhere, ever. Almost every step of the journey was memorable.
@@mirzinho8721 if you like Kreia, play Planescape Torment
I always thought the 1st game's story was better but thats because the characters are so very well intertwined in it. The 2nd was written extremely well like you said its just some of the characters are forgettable
Still got goosebumps of that planet because of Star Wars: Rebels' Season 2 finale.
Literally 1 single note from any of the songs in that game and I get goosebumps. LOVE the dantooine theme.
BioWare games from that era are those rare type of games you wish you could forget just so that you can play them again and have that "first playthrough" experience all over again.
KoTOR, Mass Effect Trilogy, Jade Empire, Dragon Age Origins, MDK... you know the rest.
I wish that I could forget Mass Effect 2 and 3 because they were shit, but otherwise I agree.
@@comicsans1689 To each their own naturally. I loved the entire trilogy of ME. ME2 the most probably.
MDK?
@@michaelandreipalon359 Yes, MDK1 and MDK2.
@@uros.u.novakovic I'm actually new to these games, so I'll just check them out.
Oh... This one is gonna be hard to watch... Kotor is my all time favorite game. Just knowing the franchise was put away hurts so bad 😭
same, im still upset we never got kotor 3
@@aamirrazak3467 I thought they started working on KOTOR 3 recently?
@@cathd5675 not that I know of. I heard in like 2007 obsidian was working on KOTOR 3 but it got cancelled and they made SWTOR instead
@@cathd5675 Unfortunately that's inaccurate.
Kotor is my favorite game of all time too
Kotor and the Mass Effect trilogy are my favorite games of all time. I deeply hope Bioware goes back to those godlike storytelling roots again.
They won’t. BioWare is in name only. None of the people who were part of its early success are even around anymore
Sadly, Ewolf5150 is right, and the same thing applies with Blizzard Entertainment back then (the Warcraft trilogy, the Diablo duology, and StarCraft I) and Blizzard Entertainment right now (Overwatch, World of Warcraft, StarCraft II, and the all too horrifying Warcraft III: Deforged)
@@michaelandreipalon359 exactly! People think it’s the same 20 people still working at these companies that made our favorite games 20 years ago. The founders of BioWare have nothing to do with the company anymore and blizzard is just as bad if not worse. Diablo 2, Warcraft 3, and Starcraft are some of my favorite games of all time. The people who made those games what they were are doing other things now. You can’t capture lightning in a bottle twice.
@@GeorgeZimmermen Sadly true.
20 years? Boy, we sure are old.
@@michaelandreipalon359 Diablo I and II were made by a different studio bought by Blizzard to begin with, and Blizzard's involvement has mostly been negative.
“The brightest stars burn half as long.”
But twice as bright
Great write up. Nice tip to dodging around the late game twist. You made it intriguing for players new to the series
who's gonna be watching this before playing though, let's be real
@@dylanmonstrum1538 well heeey💀
*"The California based studio very rarely interfered or attempted to micro managed Bioware's work"*
I wish this is always the norm, we would have many great games if this is the norm
EA has killed too many great studios, I hope someday EA will get karma'd :P
I guess MMO sequels always ruined the potential sequels because they're more profitable and low-effort, like this and Warcraft
True though world of warcraft was really good game when it came out unfortunately the old republic is a pretty bland game
how the hell are mmos more profitable and lower effort? mmo games are pretty much the most expensive genre to develop, unless i missunderstood you
Honestly, The Old Republic is a great spiritual sequel now that it's had as much content dropped for it as it has.
I really don't understand MMOs much.
But yeah, hope EA gets some well-deserved laser-guided karma, even if it means their home city was blown up by a North Korean/Chinese nuclear missile in real life.
I was 13 when this came out. Went to an EB Games at the mall with my mom and saw it on the shelf. Never heard of it. Liked the cover & love Star Wars so I got my mom to get it for me. Not realizing it was turn based nor being a fan of RPG’s, I hated it... at first. Days later I gave it another chance and now KotOR 1 & 2 remain my favorite Star Wars games of all time and in my top list of favorite games ever.
I was 28 when it came out. Bought it and an XboX the day it dropped and used my week's vacation that year just to play it... I regret nothing.
I didn't hate it but didnt understand how to play it. Add onto that that English isn't my first language, I was like 10 and that I didn't even have an Xbox (had to play at cousin's). Basically we played like 1 hour and dropped it. Years later I finally got to play them, on PC. Man, what an experience. I still play KOTOR 2 to this day (trying to 100% achievements on steam)
Kotor is one of my favorite of all time. I can still hear the dantooine outback and jedi temple themes.
Kotor 2 has single handily the best Star Wars story to date
Idk the original KOTOR is pretty damned good
Kotor2 could have been. So much was chopped out of it and never finished. It was rushed.
KOTOR 2 taight little 13 year old me about grey morality, that shit was WACK back then, and is still as amazing today
@@ProblemOfficer3000 it did grey morality right. You could just not accept this morality and argue against the characters in the game. It didn't force you which I personaly loved.
SWTOR is still worth a whirl today, some great class based story telling...for all the major classes
Best star wars game ever, and I've played them all. Literally!
I still replay the original on my iPad, KOTOR 2 comes to iPad tomorrow as of December 18th!
Now wow thank you so much for this ! Had no idea and also still have KOTOR on my iPad... thanks going straight to download !
@@papypoulet Not only that, but the developers of the iOS version, Aspyr, has given a way for the KOTOR II: TSL Restored Content mod to be installed on Apple iOS devices without any jailbreaking! You just need the mobile-ready mod package and you can install it from a computer through iTunes.
@@hyperum7862 man, you really saved the end of 2020 lol! Thx for the info!
Nice!
@@hyperum7862 what how you can download it? Is there video tutorial?
I still play kotor 1 and 2 and the original battlefront 2 to this day. Amazing games.
Kreia remains my favorite Star Wars character. Chris Avelone’s interpretation of the force remains the most attractive to me.
Agreed.
His interpretation of The Force is equivalent to an atheist doing a surface reading of the KJV and then thinking that they are qualified to provide theological commentary. Chris Avellone literally did not like Star Wars when he wrote for KOTOR 2. Drew Karpyshyn understands Star Wars, The Force, human interaction, and romance better than Chris Avellone.
Still, I'll just agree to a midpoint of both Avellone's and Karpyshyn's points of view regarding the Force.
Better than what the "sequels" churned out too.
@@comicsans1689 That statement is laughable. Drew Karpyshyn's writing is shallow and unimaginative compared to Chris Avellones. If you prefer that level of writing there is nothing wrong with that, but to say " Drew Karpyshyn understands Star Wars, The Force, human interaction, and romance better than Chris Avellone" is like saying a child understands those things better than an adult.
@@r.g.c.3897 It's clear that you haven't seen much of Drew's work if you think his writing is shallow and unimaginative. He was instrumental in the creation of Mass Effect, writing some excellent novels for it. He's also written the critically acclaimed Darth Bane novels in addition to his work on KOTOR, so I would say that he understands Star Wars better than some drunkard who originally didn't even like Star Wars. The only shallow novel that Drew has released is the Revan novel, but to be fair it was shoehorned to fit what SWTOR was doing instead of giving Drew creative freedom.
What has Chris Avellone done? To my knowledge, his main writing contributions have been Planescape Torment and KOTOR 2 (you can throw in Alpha Protocol too, but hardly anyone cares about that game). He did contribute some to Fallout 2, but even he admitted that the story and writing in Fallout 2 was a mess. He made some minor contributions to New Vegas's writing, but none of it had any significance to the main story and none of it was interesting (John Gonzales was carrying New Vegas's writing).
Sum of the best games ever made hands down.
Some
5:27 whoops, looks like Mission forgot her clothes on the Ebon Hawk.
I think that's because the player was about to have Zaalbar kill her lmao. Keep her gear by taking it off first
Wasn't mission like 14
@@POTATOEH81 16. Still a minor by our definition.
@@mattwyatt472 She was 14.
@@mattwyatt472 im really sure she is 14.
My dad said I learned to read playing KOTOR 1 with him when it first came out.
RPGs are good tools for learning to read. I'm sure that KOTOR helped my literacy when I was younger.
It feels very nice to hear such kindnesses being said about Kotor and I am grateful to be given a better perspective of the circumstances these games were made under.
My favorite games of all time.. I still hold out hope one day we could get the KOTOR 3 Obsidian were working on
@Dangerous Thinking me too, i hope that day comes soon
Well not a KoTOR 3 but someone is remaking the first game!
It's truly amazing how much the Star Wars franchise varies in quality.
This video was a beautiful trip down memory lane. In my opinion the kotor and kotor2 is the best story in star wars outside of possible the prequels and original trilogy.
Man.. i remember my friend john lent me this game. And i played it and called him a couple times when i was stuck in the beginning.. ugh, aw man what a game.. still one of my favorites of all time..
great video, as always! great overview without spoiling too much!
to this day, great stories and take on the universe.
I’d love to see a Jedi Knight retrospective from y’all.
Same!
And the best part: I don't think it fell at all.
Yes! Very fond memories of Outcast and Academy. My first rated "T for teen" game (I must have been around 10-12). IMO, best lightsaber combat experience of all time (not sure if anything better has come out since, would love to hear from others).
Played KOTOR 2, but didn't have the same impact on me at the time, it recall it being fun but glitchy and I was confused by the story lol. Didn't realize how epic the KOTOR 1 storyline is until years later.
@@joshuasamsoondar Well, if you want to reexplore KotOR II, I recommend the Restored Content Mod.
@@joshuasamsoondar Also, the Jedi Knight series are really good to replay these days. Time to dismember more Imps and those blasted Gamorreans and Rodians.
Thank you so much for doing a retrospective on this classic!! This was not only one of the greatest Star Wars games i've ever played but my first experience with Bioware. Also one of my earliest western rpgs (i was mostly only into jrpgs at the time).
It blew me away with the depth of choices and customization options. Really got me hooked on western rpgs and future Bioware projects.
One of the guys that owed bioware now owns a few awesome breweries in Edmonton, blind enthusiasm is one of them.
Thank you for covering a childhood gem of mine!!
Amazing accomplishment by the team who crafted the game and story. You guys made content that the nerds didn't hate. Truly a pinnacle of Star Wars
Awesome, love KOTOR, looking forward to watching this video
Never played this growing up. Shame
It's available on mobile these days.
@@SpikeStarkey Tried it. Would not recommend. Rife with bugs that made it unplayable and it seems the developer that ported it has since abandoned the project.
You can buy it digitally if you have an Xbox One.
@@360zm4 i have both for my ORIGINAL Xbox
Agreed. Kotor 1/2 are two of the best games I ever played and some of the best Star Wars fiction ever created! Still worth having a go today for the insane strength of it's story and interesting characters!
Great. i did not expect this. i'm looking forward to seeing the video!
It was a glorious time... I hope we can get there again with star wars games
My favorite game. Ever. Thank you!
Me too
same was my third favorite Star Wars game
I'm still a HUGE fan of the first two KOTOR games and its a crime that there's never been a proper return to the series.
Wish I could go back in time and play both KOTORs over again for the first time.
I don't even like star wars, but this game was AMAZING
That twist...no game has done a twist half as good
This game was highly engrossing. I loved how you started looking more and more evil with every dark side decision.
MAN I LOVE THIS CHANNEL AND MAN OH MAN. NEVER THOUGHT I'D SEE THIS GAME SERIES ON THIS CHANNEL. IM ACTUALLY SCREAMING THUS CAPS.
love you a lot
If anyone hasnt played both kotor games go do it, they are on steam, not expensive, they have been and always will be the best starwars games ever made, and I will stand by that statement, I've played through each of them atleast 15 times each over the years since I've been old enough to hold a controller, and dont let disney corrupt starwars, they are both cannon
was not expecting this, i was actually going through some channels im subbed to on here last night and was cleaning them up as i either dont watch them enough anymore or anything else, i seen this channel last and was like "i feel like they'll have a new video soon so they can stay, plus i like watching the older videos anyways." and here we go today, with probably one the videos i've been wanting you guys to cover ever since i found this channel from the dead space video a few years ago.
I still stand strong on my belief that Kotor 2 even in its unfinished state is better in almost every way to Kotor 1. Imagine if they had gotten 2 full years on part 2.
Kotor I had that original Star Wars story but Kotor II story and characters just hold a special place rooted deep inside. probably easily played Kotor II 2-1 to Kotor I both are masterpieces in their own respective way, but my personal opinion sits closer to Kotor II
Gameplay wise I’m inclined to agree with you but story wise KOTOR 1 definitely takes the cake.
@@israelhammans7329 exactly man I Find myself replaying Kotor 2 at least twice a year and Kotor maybe.
@@StayHydratedGaming KOTOR 2 has a more refined gameplay in a few aspects, but overall KOTOR 1 is the better experience, plus plot and storytelling are unbeatable
@@federicovesentini3719 may I ask in which way is the storytelling unbeatable? The whole plot of KOTOR I can be defined as the traditional "amnesiac protagonist goes on a journey while being unaware that he's the most important character in the galaxy" thing, and even if it's told in a OK way, the twist just doesn't cut it. Hell, even the background of some of your sidekicks is way more interesting than the revelation of being DR at the third act of the game. KOTOR II on the other hand delves deeper into the meaning of the Force and blurring the concept of good vs evil surrounding the Jedi-Sith myths and cults.
KOTOR is burnt into my brain from finding it on special when I was younger to being obsessed with the storyline and playing multiple times to see the endings. Then years later I finally played the second one and I was blown away by the story. No games since have grabbed me from the start and taken me on a journey. I have my fingers crossed for a TV series or movie starting when Revan was a jedi then moving towards the game.
Two of the greatest games of all time. Nobody will be able to tell me otherwise.
Yes!! One of my most favorite game game series of all time, which also features two of my favorite characters(also of all time),the realest "grey" jedi,Revan,and his old friend,Malak😊😌
We’re getting a remake for the ps5, *LETS GO!!!!!!*
This legitimately felt like a high end, well funded documentary! Absolutely leaving a like and hope to see more from this channel. I honestly dont take the time to acknowledge when Im truly entertained but you guys sincerely earned the shout out. Thank you for this!
"Even after it's events were declared non-canon."
In my opinion, the Disney movies are non-canon.
EDIT: Because Sequel fans are too stupid to understand the complex nuances of a reference, this is a joke based on Anakin's line in Episode 3. You know, that movie you people never watched, because you only got into Star Wars after Disney started ruining it.
Read that in Anakin's voice.
EU is the only right choice.
Being declared non cannon is a blessing in disguise. Imagine if Kathleen Kennedy tried to make a KOTOR movie. I shudder to think about how bad that would be.
@@concierge-swimmer5076 ha no, brexit 2021
Jokes btw
I wanted to cry when I saw GVMERS made a KOTOR video. His could be 2 hours long and I’d be happy as pie. Thanks!
It's sad how we'll probably never get a star wars game like this again
Hopefully we will
We ARE NOW
This. This was the game.
I want..no..NEED..a remaster. Please god. Then I can die happy.
KOTOR 2 is just as good as the first, doing a playthrough right now. I don't know anyone who dislikes it in anyway, it was an improvement imo.
You have one hell of a documentary style voice dude, made the video that much more pleasant to listen to.
"The History of Star Wars KOTO 4KR"
KOTO 4KR?
Only real ones know
The quickly changed it :D
Lol the typo is what made me watch it. I love this channel though.
Speaking of 4k, I wish GVMERS kept releasing their videos in 4k, rather than just 1080. I loved the higher quality videos and don't see why they changed it randomly.
@@ReallyRyan. It's in 4K bro. Other one I watched recently seems to be in 4K as well. Not that it matters when game and gameplay itself is recorded in 1080p (or worse when talking about console releases).
8:03 " . . Knights of of the Old Republic wasn't just a great Star Wars game, it was a great piece of Star Wars fiction, period. One that was on par with the best that the entire franchise had to offer."
Well. Fucking. Said.
The old republic games will always be Canon in my heart
First played these when they came out as a young fella - now as an adult again just finished kotor2 the other night. Multiple playthroughs of both 1 & 2 in my life. Priceless. Will continue to do so into my old age 👊🏻
KotOR 2 was such a fantastic thing.
I'm happy I got to play these games growing up. Very happy memories.
I love KOTOR II. It’s far superior than it’s predecessor and pretty much all RPG’s... but I can’t help but wonder how amazing it would have been if Urgaust had just got that agreement in writing!!
I'm always astounded by the level of quality of this channel's content. To think it's all crowdfunded leaves me dumbfounded!
The trailers are better than the "new" movies. I can't believe it's not cannon anymore :/
Canon is, what the fans consider as such. If the owner company deviates from that, they're screwed.
@@tomigun5180 Tell that to the people I tell Naruto and Sasuke are canon 🤣🤣🤣.
@@slothman9731 They are, just not in Star Wars.
After the intro of this I got goosebumps because thinking the lore and tge game itself is just... undescribeable. The game was mindblowing experience.
Still prefer KotOR 2 over the original. Obsidian did a great job, if hampered by scheduling.
kotor 2 was a masterpiece, lot more depth than the original.
Original is bar far the better game. Not even close. 2 was a half assed knockoff made by a lesser developer
@@GeorgeZimmermen I'd take an RPG by Obsidian over BioWare any day. The writing is much better. Lesser developer my backside.
Finally, a video that arguably doesn't show the fall of a beloved video game series. A worthy break from all those depressing stories.
Bioware is now a shell of it's former self. The EA acquisition was a suicide mission.
Thank you for making this. I have very fond memories of KOTOR.
Gotta say this video kind of misses a beat only discussing kotor 2 in terms of nihilus, and only mentioning that swtor has revan/not mentioning that it's still ongoing and active.
No mention of Kreia is wild
fantastic work, i think this the top quality you can find around for Video Gaming documentaries.
I love knights of the old republic it’s really awesome and badass
"Do not presume to tell me my path, when you walk yours blindly" -Revan
(The Old Republic: Resuce Mission fanfilm)
Still have them Both, from day one (KOTOR & KOTOR II), Classics.
If Mass Effect's storyline had ended right before the SR-2 goes through the Omega-4 Relay, it'd be one of the greatest pieces of storytelling in any medium... ever.
It rolled downhill with ever-increasing speed from the moment they went through that Relay.
KOTOR for me was what the Og trilogy was for people. It introduced me to Star Wars and blew my mind apart, I haven't had anything close to the same experience ever again. It's still my favorite game of all time.
14:59 The single biggest mistake in the entire KoTOR franchise.
To be honest I would prefer Revan being male and The Exile being female. Other than that whole SWTOR story of Revan was pinnacle of generic movie evil.
Revan is male... and the Exile is female... in cannon.
Yeah, there's a reason I prefer the Darth Bane trilogy. It ensures that both characters' genders are ambiguous.
It kinda felt a bit pointless when the characters we picked aren't the ones that the other Star Wars material utilize.
@@michaelandreipalon359 Darth Bane is also canonically gendered. He his male. What are you talking about here?
@@Myskully14 I meant the genders of Revan and the Exile.
Great look at this game as always, keep doing what you do GVMERS! One of my favorite content creators.
God tier game. I miss classic BioWare...
My day will consist of KOTOR one, two, OG battlefront and this episode. THANK YOU
From 2003 to 2010 Bioware reigned supreme: kotor, jade empire, mass effect, dragon age origins, mass effect 2.
Oh hell yeah! Love y'all! Thank you for the quality! 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
the best thing star wars has ever done. long live the EU
I disagree, DAO is better, really felt good to pull off the black and white (red and blue?) morality system
@@oliviawilliams6204 Hey, what about Jade Empire?
@@michaelandreipalon359 what about it. The Open Palm/Closed Fist morality was light side dark side reskined in Asian motif.
@@oliviawilliams6204 Makes sense, but at least it's still a great game.
Also, thanks for acknowledging it. I honestly don't see much comments with Jade Empire as a topic.
this is the first video game i ever played and i will never get over how good it is
Knights of the Old Republic. that's a title I haven't heard from a long time...
Long time
Love these, please never stop.
Only Empire Strikes Back can match this Masterpiece (in Star Wars)
I totally agree with you there my friend.this comment needs more likes...
The movies got nothing on this
Nah, the OT is still better.
As always,outstanding video!
Regardless of its issues, Knights of the Old Republic II is still the strongest piece of Star Wars media to me. Just the scene in the return of the enclave is so unbelievably amazing and puts so much narrative and dramatic weight into an event, that it carries the entire game for me. I've even told people that all of Star Wars and both Kotor games are just prefaces to the reunion at the enclave.
Sith Lords had some *really cool* ideas in it. I liked the 'nothing happens in a vacuum' philosophy. Ultimately though, I found myself on the last planet, and thought: "Why am I here?"... "Hey, Bastilla. This planet has zero civilians, no naval defense, and two mediocre sith. Let's nuke it from orbit."
Yeah I’m here after the remake trailer dropped, U GADDA PRABLEM WIT THAT??? 🤌🤌🤌
Have been playing through KoToR myself for the first time and have loved my time and can't wait to play Sith Lords! 😍😍
Great video 👍
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