The Fall - Smile and 2X4 (The Tube 1983)

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.พ. 2025
  • First appearance on national TV - presented by John Peel

ความคิดเห็น • 372

  • @chrismorrison3696
    @chrismorrison3696 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    The only thing I love more than this band is my dog. And he's a good boy.

  • @ALotofWind
    @ALotofWind 9 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    Arguably the greatest performance in the Tube's history.

    • @nwo4life708
      @nwo4life708 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Or ever by any band?

    • @ianrobson9601
      @ianrobson9601 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Don't get me wrong I love The Fall but for me personally I think the best performance on The Tube has to be The Cramps. In fact , I think I'll go watch it again once this video ends

    • @neets1437
      @neets1437 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hard to disagree

    • @chrisgoodson9312
      @chrisgoodson9312 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@ianrobson9601 Yeah The Cramps' one is awesome. They both are

    • @McDoinky
      @McDoinky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Love the smiths one

  • @edwardswift8519
    @edwardswift8519 7 ปีที่แล้ว +158

    He's gone...and so I come to watch this, to remember him at his absolute peak. Thundering, cataclysmic brilliance.

    • @siouxiesethlimeatonarteta9066
      @siouxiesethlimeatonarteta9066 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Great as they're did since .no basic to us to know,much to hear up audio configuration ,oi.i like to hear so much a music to an ear... VICTORIA..makestical.royal highness
      Good morning.thanks.love it. The fall.

    • @owlytimbre9103
      @owlytimbre9103 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@siouxiesethlimeatonarteta9066 no wordlier a salad- uh was zeited up yr geist

    • @ColinJessiman
      @ColinJessiman ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lickspittle Southerners

    • @MatthewJames-hx9bc
      @MatthewJames-hx9bc ปีที่แล้ว +3

      he hasn’t gone at all

    • @shruggzdastr8-facedclown
      @shruggzdastr8-facedclown 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Are you referring to Mark Smith or John Peel?

  • @deletebilderberg
    @deletebilderberg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    ‘Repetition in our music and we’re never gonna lose it..’

  • @tuna2k10
    @tuna2k10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    The Hanley brothers and Karl Burns are just phenomenal here, what a rhythm section

    • @NormanFinkelstein9863
      @NormanFinkelstein9863 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not 'Lip' Syncing.

    • @michaelsnow7252
      @michaelsnow7252 ปีที่แล้ว

      anyone see paul hanley on the chase?

    • @tuna2k10
      @tuna2k10 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michaelsnow7252 stood next to him at the bar in salford lowry a while back, he's bloody tall

    • @JMarinelli
      @JMarinelli 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Best of both worlds.

  • @oscarrocabert6268
    @oscarrocabert6268 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Steve Hanley. Genius of modern music.

  • @robjohnston1433
    @robjohnston1433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Not a single line on that angelic face!
    Middle-of-the-road haircut, conservatively dressed, innocent smile ... in the brief pause before he stars singing, we think, "What a sweet boy! This is going to a lovely ballad with singalong chorus."
    Thank God we are RAPIDLY DISABUSED as the propulsive rhythm, lacerating lyrics and dissonant, angry voice rip our throats out!
    Undoubtedly THE GREATEST TV debut since Rod Hull's Emu tore Princess Margaret's beating heart from her chest on Blue Peter in 1952!!!

    • @mesolithicman164
      @mesolithicman164 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Perhaps a bit hyperbolic.

  • @WinnifredJune
    @WinnifredJune 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    On 2X4, The drummer on the right is playing 16th notes with both hands on the hi hat, while the drummer on the left is playing 16th note upbeats with his left foot on the hi hat. That is completely wild.

    • @sidfletcher4955
      @sidfletcher4955 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      One on left the awesome Karl Burns

    • @WinnifredJune
      @WinnifredJune 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @sidfletcher4955 The other one is the admirable Paul Hanely, Steve's younger brother. You know what that reminds of - The Velvet Underground with Doug Yule on bass and Doug's little brother on drums playing live.

  • @filled_soda
    @filled_soda ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Jesus Christ, they were monumental

  • @nelbert4
    @nelbert4 11 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    The Fall are like marmite, you either get them or you don't and I most certainly do. I was a latecomer, Hex Enduction Hour was my introduction at the age of 18, but it was like when I heard the Pistols at 13, it was an epiphany. I remember watching this and it just confirmed how there was nobody else like them. Truly one of the best moments of my life and one I never tire of watching, and what truly tops it off is that Peel was instrumental in bringing it the masses. Not that they cared!

    • @lewiswyndham9285
      @lewiswyndham9285 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They are like marmite, what a funny yet unerring comparison

    • @Mojoworkin
      @Mojoworkin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I read about them first - in Slash magazine ( LA) and then heard them on Rodney Bingenheimer's radio show, 78-79. I instantly thought they were special. First saw them live in the mid 80's, and many times after. I join Henry Rollins and many others in being a superfan.

    • @mesolithicman164
      @mesolithicman164 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It was not a form of music designed for easy listening pleasure or fashion stylists.
      You went there, took the punishment and then tried to figure out what it was all about.
      And then went back for more.
      Very difficult to explain.

    • @arthughes5668
      @arthughes5668 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      like the rhubarb on custard. ​@@mesolithicman164

    • @MalachiMacTavish
      @MalachiMacTavish 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True. Peel played Fortress/Deer Park when I was 14 and I was never the same again.

  • @bukowski20
    @bukowski20 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This audience was there to be entertained and they got this. Massive. Fuckin brilliant. The untouchable Fall.

    • @mesolithicman164
      @mesolithicman164 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's the ones trying to dance that get me.

  • @Nobodyreallyatall
    @Nobodyreallyatall 7 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    The Fall was incredibly good at this time. Will be one of the most famous bands in history in 500 years. Aliens will buy their surviving records for incredibly large sums, pass them down to your grandkids.

  • @hermioneziggeraut7617
    @hermioneziggeraut7617 7 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I can't verify this, but I heard that when The Fall did Later with Jools Holland, they specified in their contract that Jools Holland was not to play boogie-woogie over any of the songs.

    • @SeeDaRipper...
      @SeeDaRipper... 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      HAHAHA that made me fucking laugh..nice one mate ;)

    • @glennmcquade4134
      @glennmcquade4134 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fuck jools Holland... There I said it

    • @XO-nm8nx
      @XO-nm8nx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fuck him and his fucking hootenanny. Fucking midget.

    • @garden7168
      @garden7168 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, the video is on TH-cam and Jools ain't playing😂 so...

    • @Chrisamusic1
      @Chrisamusic1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@garden7168 I would have loved to have heard Jools TRY to play Boogie Woogie over a fall tune. :-)

  • @FoogouFilms
    @FoogouFilms 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The Brit Beefheart. I've never had idea what he's on about, but he does it eloquently. The intensity!!!

  • @WoodyPerth
    @WoodyPerth 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    That bass intro on 2x4 !!

  • @benhayes9570
    @benhayes9570 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    We never see this kind of thing on tea time TV anymore

  • @heyalright_
    @heyalright_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    His screech, no-one will replicate that

    • @hauntological
      @hauntological 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Correct, yet many singers in recent years keep trying, and failing dismally.

  • @ennbee2051
    @ennbee2051 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love him or hate him. You can only love Mark E. RIP my man. Love ya Mark.

  • @philharrison9893
    @philharrison9893 7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    My god, this is a brilliant clip. Karl Burns was a monster of a drummer.

  • @kyberhai
    @kyberhai 9 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    God bless John Peel!

    • @pigknickers2975
      @pigknickers2975 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I still miss him ....

    • @aubertv
      @aubertv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      pigknickers
      JP and MES are hanging together
      Genius

  • @djkohoficial
    @djkohoficial 11 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    the best 240p video in this site

  • @timhall3575
    @timhall3575 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    5:00 in Hanley on bass.... the man was a beast - incredible...

  • @buckrogez87
    @buckrogez87 9 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This song (Smile) has such a power to it. Brilliant choice for TV. "Well Fed, In a Welfare way"-one of many amazing lines. Like a militant march straight through your mind

  • @ericrhodes5174
    @ericrhodes5174 8 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    This is probably the only live recording that captures the apocalyptic atmosphere of the studio version.

    • @Tenskwatawa4U
      @Tenskwatawa4U 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Apocalyptic... and positively claustrophobic.

    • @Tenskwatawa4U
      @Tenskwatawa4U 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I always have trouble catching my breath. This song has always been claustrophobic as shit!

    • @arthur9924
      @arthur9924 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Peel Session is also great

    • @mookie2637
      @mookie2637 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@arthur9924 I think it's a bit better; like Blindness.

    • @fuckamericanidiot
      @fuckamericanidiot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tenskwatawa4U That personal imploding apocalypse

  • @AudieTheMastiff
    @AudieTheMastiff 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Incredible. 2024🎉

  • @Atom1990-m2j
    @Atom1990-m2j 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Kudos to the dancers who found a danceable rhythm in all that.

    • @Jlipnicki
      @Jlipnicki ปีที่แล้ว

      Canny Lasses.

  • @KUMTV
    @KUMTV ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Fall is Gospel

  • @nmeh8755
    @nmeh8755 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I can't seem to turn this up enough

  • @Jason.Loewenstein
    @Jason.Loewenstein 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is so good!

  • @JDsmiffy1
    @JDsmiffy1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    RIP Mark E Smith, one of the best Fall live performances on TH-cam.

  • @ListenToBigFace
    @ListenToBigFace 10 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I love how much Jools is obviously being screamed at to get to the band, and he just has to stand in terror watching John's mouth opening and closing

  • @michaelconnolly7491
    @michaelconnolly7491 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nothing better than waking up on a sunday morning to MES yelling at me!

  • @BillSwansea
    @BillSwansea 14 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is the best version of Smile ever.

  • @Mojoworkin
    @Mojoworkin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Blowing The Tube away, that's for sure. Stunning prime Fall.

  • @victoroladuja2416
    @victoroladuja2416 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never remembered seeing Peel on The Tube!

  • @darrenbaker8144
    @darrenbaker8144 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Met smithy loads on tour He wasn’t shy to join in if you offered a dip in your bag !! Great bloke 👌🏻

  • @a.harrison4613
    @a.harrison4613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is incredible! They are so tight and so perfectly entwined musically. Such great riffs and bass lines. Lyrics and vocals are god like. And the whole thing comes together like something that god put together on his four track and asked what people thought?

  • @kingkook3027
    @kingkook3027 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    John Peel, a legendary broadcaster and a wonderful man, that I was fortunate enough to meet and spend time with introducing the extraordinary and utterly unique genius of The Fall! What a treat, thank you so much for posting.

  • @andrewstorey9419
    @andrewstorey9419 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Steve Hanley take a bow... absolutely awesome.👍

  • @vollsticks
    @vollsticks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Jeez The Group sound so incredibly powerful here and M.E.S is on top form
    I'm still a huge fan of the early 2000's-2017 LP's, though. That last line-up of The Fall was brilliant.

  • @lisaaltavilla4095
    @lisaaltavilla4095 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The original brilliant FALL !!! 🎤🎶🎸🎶🎶🎶

  • @DylanWhite-k5j
    @DylanWhite-k5j ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Karl showed those drums no mercy!.

  • @bunglebonce
    @bunglebonce 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This isn't my favourite Fall song but I think Smile from this clip is my favourite live performance of theirs on TH-cam.

  • @austinhcoe
    @austinhcoe ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant. Sorely missed.

  • @TobcioccLeyton
    @TobcioccLeyton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    a superb band

  • @louisemagill8295
    @louisemagill8295 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wish MES could have stayed this age forever. Can't believe he's gone. Never thought he'd die. Met him at this age. Knocked on his door in prestwich and he said, deadpan "I'm in the middle of me tea"
    I couldn't speak. I was such a knob 😂

  • @nelbert4
    @nelbert4 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    No, it is one of the best lines ever, there has never been a lyricist like him.

  • @chrishorn855
    @chrishorn855 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The greatest rock band of all time!!!!

  • @kosmischesynth
    @kosmischesynth 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The cut in clips of people dancing are hilarious. I can't imagine a less appropriate way to dance to this music...

  • @realfingertrouble
    @realfingertrouble 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    RIP Mark :-(

  • @austinhcoe
    @austinhcoe ปีที่แล้ว

    "When I'm dead and gone
    My vibrations will live on
    In vibes on vinyl through the years
    People will dance to my waves
    Rock it! Rock it!
    It's quester psykick dance-hall..."

  • @spacepodi
    @spacepodi ปีที่แล้ว

    The fall playing in Wolverhampton Poly in 1998 (I think) remains one of the best gigs I have ever attended in my life.

  • @rufuspage6210
    @rufuspage6210 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great stuff indeed. Only minus point is there isn't enough footage of Paul Hanley's drumming!

    • @darrenlamb5640
      @darrenlamb5640 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Paul hanleys drumming? Please tell me that was... somehow a joke!!

    • @darrenlamb5640
      @darrenlamb5640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Burns is the real beast on the drums here!!

    • @rufuspage6210
      @rufuspage6210 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@darrenlamb5640 I agree but Hanley does give it some extra beef. And I love Paul's drumming on Slates, way beyond his years :)

    • @michaelsnow7252
      @michaelsnow7252 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he was 19 here....

    • @gargantuk
      @gargantuk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@darrenlamb5640 Yes but PH and KB's styles complemented each other. A great unifying force-uh

  • @josejones7025
    @josejones7025 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Best concert video of Smile! Ever!!

  • @FromTheMoshPit
    @FromTheMoshPit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    by Christ this is bloody good! 31 studio albums to devour from the UK's greatest "underground" group (for want of a better word). musical addiction.

  • @manrodoornail
    @manrodoornail 14 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Fall still are and always will be at the very least occasionally excellent.
    This video is priceless.

  • @arthurkettle3010
    @arthurkettle3010 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Extraordinarily brilliant.....

  • @yulia_romanova_
    @yulia_romanova_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watching this in 2020.
    R.I.P. Mark 😢

  • @nath909
    @nath909 13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sublime. Best band ever.

  • @AnthonyMonaghan
    @AnthonyMonaghan 12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I agree with what you say up to a point, there was some really good stuff on it, I particularly remember The Smiths appearance on the day they released The Queen is Dead...Brilliant. I probably hated this when I was a 13 year old heavy metal kid, but I love it now.

  • @seanhughes1808
    @seanhughes1808 หลายเดือนก่อน

    SO GOOD

  • @Stoufferthecat
    @Stoufferthecat 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great stuff. Sound like these guys may have been an influence for Daughters.

  • @piynubbunyip
    @piynubbunyip 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is very cool how the group are side on.

  • @nelbert4
    @nelbert4 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Never a truer word said. Smile is a song I would truly go to my grave with.

  • @TBFBTBFB
    @TBFBTBFB 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    fantastic.

  • @thegloriousmoodman2152
    @thegloriousmoodman2152 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hell yah.

  • @dessiemckenzie5857
    @dessiemckenzie5857 ปีที่แล้ว

    In an impossible to determine race of excellence this is the best thing live on TV ever until they appear the next time

  • @brucefindlay
    @brucefindlay 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The music lives on ......... smile. ✌

  • @louiesimon5292
    @louiesimon5292 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If humans had created nothing other than this, it would have all been worth it.

  • @silverash63
    @silverash63 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Saw these in Burnley with John Cooper Clark in support, great night

  • @JDsmiffy1
    @JDsmiffy1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant stuff! You have to... Smile!

  • @andykopgod
    @andykopgod 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thats just blown my mind 💪👍👏

  • @palfab962ify
    @palfab962ify 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    gr8 stuff...miss him..

  • @GARIJPUNQ
    @GARIJPUNQ 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for putting these up ,been after seeing this properly for years-saw it when it was on,a mate video'd it-& watched it every tues af'noon when we skived school!-always thought k.burns had a donkey jacket on! -this is by far the best version of SMILE in my opinion-incredible,can remember smith's big pink collared shirt..great bass 'man-handling' by mr handley-& two drummers for christ sake!!- ABSOLUTE MAGIC:-SMITH/BURNS/SCANLAN/& THE HANLEYS (& brix if i have to..) I SALUTE CHEW!

  • @MrRadiouser
    @MrRadiouser ปีที่แล้ว

    Yep, best of the Tube is this Fall performance!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @zigzagwandra
    @zigzagwandra 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    perfect

  • @chrisgomez215
    @chrisgomez215 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    WISH I WAS THIS COOL.

  • @croiners4166
    @croiners4166 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Will never forget seeing them around this time in nyc , rip mark

  • @mundaneman1811
    @mundaneman1811 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the look of some of the audience faces ‘wtf?’

  • @romantotalerant7767
    @romantotalerant7767 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    still a fucking great rush.
    the goosebumps still appear.
    so real. if only most of the people there knew what they have!!?
    go on ginger you can do it!

  • @68majortom
    @68majortom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a performance magic!!

  • @45cave45cave
    @45cave45cave 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I -love this-song-you creep-★

  • @jonmakowski8536
    @jonmakowski8536 9 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Rest assured. The Fall are the greatest bad ever. Feel this and feel superior. Disagree and fade away.

    • @philharrison9893
      @philharrison9893 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You see something like this and it's pretty much self-evident, isn't it?

    • @leecarlson728
      @leecarlson728 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There can be no debate on this.

    • @badlarry172
      @badlarry172 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      is right

    • @timfeleppa3156
      @timfeleppa3156 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I am a bit of a Beatles pussy but you may be right. I find myself getting teary eyed with The Fall too. And he is so crabby and drunk and unpleasant and shit but wow he could write.

    • @aubertv
      @aubertv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bluenose 1986
      Still are

  • @vivouk
    @vivouk 15 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    RIP John Peel.

  • @chrispiazza7487
    @chrispiazza7487 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    greatest live performance ever

  • @birdsnest69
    @birdsnest69 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Miss this band so much.

  • @qdbpqdbp1
    @qdbpqdbp1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    fantastic

  • @jonanjello
    @jonanjello 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Damn. Great performance of Smile!

  • @Takac1979
    @Takac1979 14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolute knock out! MES is the man!

  • @Cavitation68
    @Cavitation68 ปีที่แล้ว

    To think the The Tube ceased broadcasting cos Jools Holland uttered a swear word before the watershed!
    Madness…
    I love The Fall !

  • @janellelamarche
    @janellelamarche 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is an awesome version. smile creeps!

  • @rochfordsnrubbs6855
    @rochfordsnrubbs6855 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The noise crescendos in this performance during 2x4 are are such a fantastic racket. I watch this every few weeks I reckon, always come back to it

  • @flips300021
    @flips300021 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A defining moment

  • @daskleinegluck4553
    @daskleinegluck4553 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Audience still wasn't ready for The Fall.

  • @tompomeroy3379
    @tompomeroy3379 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    RIP Mark! Gone to the great studio in the sky to play some more sessions with the late great John Peel!

  • @VinceNaughton
    @VinceNaughton 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you to the dancers for turning up, even if you really didn't need to.

  • @bierigblondje
    @bierigblondje 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    saw them in holland tivoli utrecht 83,first number was smile.

  • @threecorneredvoid
    @threecorneredvoid 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible.

  • @tacchinisean
    @tacchinisean 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very clean video. Thx for sharing.

  • @Sportbilly121
    @Sportbilly121 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    remember this at the time ..would love someone decent and worthwhile to do a clean, crisp, rockin' version of this