I actually really like this watch, but I have to assume Seiko is the victim of their own doing by putting out the NH34, there are about a million affordable GMT’s out there. Thanks for the great review as always.
@@arielspalter7425 I recently got a Vostok komandirskie GMT, it's probably the cheapest non-chinese automatic GMT you can get. The quality is surprisingly good, but the stock bracelet is one of the worst Ive seen, just change the strap and youre good to go.
The problem is if you ever want to try and resell your watch, you will find it difficult to get much back for a used San Martin or any other Chinese watch, however good the quality. I bought one of those San Martin nh34 GMTs and it surely has great specs for the money (and looks great too!), but I accept this will probably remain in my collection until my next-of-kin tosses it out!
@@Cravenfr no customs tax on watches under $800 in the US, the threshold is $800. Shipping is like 30$ tho or something like that, but was actually super fast
Just bought this watch a couple of days ago. I love how Seiko put a coloured numerals as neon green. It is very legible whether you are indoors or outdoors or even at night. Which to me, as a field watch, legibility is a main thing about being a field watch. Loving it, swapped out to a rubber black strap and It becomes more sporty. Gotten it slightly below the mentioned priced in this video, a definite steal for me.
Oh man, "domed mineral"; for that price, I would much prefer to get a San Martin textured dial watch with so much more to offer. Wonder why the Japanese brands like Seiko and Citizen don't offer sapphire crystal when it is clearly available and is what most people want.
They do, but it's at the same price point of the entry level Swiss automatics like Tissot. Its all of the cheaper autos that are mineral crystal. At least in Aus@@BagoGarde
Then you should get the SM. If enough people don't like Seiko and stop buying them, they will change. But I guess people are still buying them, because actually, most of them just aren't that bothered about what kind of glass it is, or whatever.
I will say that I do really enjoy my SRPG Seiko Field watch! There are some features that don't come off on camera, (like the reflective numerals, textured dial, and blasted case finish), that give it a really nice look. It did require a better band to look it's best, though. The "blah" NATO straps weren't doing any favors. You're still left with the question of whether the GMT feature is a requirement for YOU....but I think I'm happier without it, (and the few extra bucks in my wallet).
ps I'm rocking a Seiko "Brian May" limited edition with a Nato which I normally dont care for but this one has six lines on it to reflect the six strings of a guitar which is what the whole Watch is designed to honor. I actually love love love it!
Although it's a genuinely nice looking piece, I don't see the point of the small GMT numerals on the inside of the dial when they are present on a bezel that is fixed. Can't wait to see the new gaff Jody. A quick tour of the studio maybe?
I bought the srpg27k bracelet model at a very affordable price and put a leather strap on it. The watch, which was 146 grams, became 75 grams. It is a nice model that appeals to all ages.
Excellent video Jody. I'd go for the non coated stainless steel. The black one reminds me of one of those plastic Luminox watches. As for price drop, maybe it's not the watch itself, could be that the GMT trend is dying a little bit now.
The Seiko Japan Marketing team said we didn't need advice from an international team on this one :D Heavy discount and the name, make it a good fit. Thanks Jody :)
I remember when Seiko 5s were much more affordable than this, in an era of affordable GMTs from microbrands that use Seiko movements. I know a Seiko cased watch will be more collectible long term, but there are equally nice options out there today for much less money.
No lume on the numerals? I think I'll pass on that one. I'm glad I waited for a review first. I understand that they're trying to go for a stealthy look, and the last thing you need is a watch that lights up at night when you're on a 'mission'. Regardless, I still would've preferred lumed numerals. Thanks for the review, Jody.
I like the idea of this one but the redundant 24 hour marker and the bezel makes the dial too cluttered for no relevant functionality. Wouldve considered it if they made it a rotating bezel to justify the clutter by being able to track 3 timezones. Or simply removing the 24hr markers in either the bezel or dial. It just looks like they're cramming their GMT movements into preexisting designs without much intentionality.
The second row of markers on the bezel are 12-hour PM time markers for 24 hour timekeeping as used in places outside the US and in the military. Would've been a much better watch had the bezel been rotating though, I agree with you on that.
I like it. I'm not a huge fan of black/military/etc watches, other than for the actual travel phase of traveling (long-distance riding/driving/flying-airports, etc). At the moment, I use a square G-Shock for that job (which goes back in my travel case when I get where I"m going), but this could take over that role I reckon...
More than happy with my Night Vision 200m Diver’s solar powered model in PVD steel and sapphire crystal. Cost about the same as this model. Everything even lines up perfectly.
If you want it dun read the comments lol sbsc009 are hard to get in good price range now and you can also get the jdm version for the other models if you look hard enough, sold out for the ssk with bracelet.
I like the look of the watch, especially at that price range. I think an upgrade would be a more traditional NATO strap in braided nylon. Just a thought.
Nice watch and I agree, it’s a nice alternative to the Rolex. Would loved to have seen the two SS versions as I have no interest in the black, but that’s just me.
Make one up. My friend and I talk very often. She's in Africa and I'm in the USA. The GMT comes in handy sometimes so I can see what time it is over there.
@@edwardfletcher7790 the white one is a JDM only model, which are made in Japan - says it on the dial. I would rather have this, I don’t care about specs that much
Gotta ask,....the bezel, whether rotating or not......what's up with the 360 degrees = 24 units? It's not military time equivalent,....it's not "minutes" around the dial......what is it?...and what is it for? That said, maybe it can be used as a one-time "offset"....to use it as a poor-man's GMT for the 2nd time zone offset you are at...BUT ...this IS a GMT watch with the extra hand so you don't need the faux GMT "bezel". What am I missing?
This might be the nicest Seiko 5 I have ever seen. If it had a 6r movement and sapphire crystal I'd be interested. It comes with a 4r movement and with a hardlex crystal and I won't buy another watch with those properties.
So they have 24hr numerals on the bezel and inside the Arabics... You really only need one or the other or neither. I would choose neither because I believe "Less is more" would do more for this watch. You then do away from the alignment issue or it's completely disguised, and you would have more room (and budget) to do something with the indices. Take a page from the Rolex as shown...Maybe shake it up and do something like the Lum-Tech V10 Big Date indices and very small 24h numerals. But that would probably perpetuate it to a higher price point. This is of course a personal preference, and everyone's different, but being military for over 20yrs....I would take a watch with a longer power reserve than a GMT hand. I mean I understand the tech, but in my experience crossing time zones often, I personally just change the time to the current time zone and use the little bit of math to figure out the time elsewhere. My ritual is to change the time mid-flight because I know when you look at your flight info, it will always list the local time when you land where you're flying into. Stylistically, I'd throw a Zuludiver Kingsand band and be done with it. The only way 16mm+ of height works is with a short-sleeve shirt. I think NATO straps work best with thin field watches.
Don't think I don't see how windy it is outside at 7:10, proving once again that Jody will stop at nothing, including putting himself in harm's way, to bring us the best watch content on TH-cam.
I bought the Speedtimer last year, in the same price bracket as this (I got it discounted), and the build is so much better than this. Everything aligns, you get a sapphire crystal and even a decent bracelet, I can't believe you are paying extra for that movement?
I think I can answer the RRP question, if Seiko sells a watch to retailers at approximately 45% of the RRP, a higher rrp means a higher sale price for Seiko, retailers discounting is eating into their own profit. In short, it's a way to present as offering great margins to retailers whilst in reality, pretty crap margins if retailers are to be competitive.
I will buy it from a Microbrand maybe eventually. With a sapphire crystal, screw down crown, a conventional strap and better qc for well under half the price of the Seiko....
I like the look of this, except for the strap. I don’t know why but I just don’t like NATO straps. I doubt I’d ever buy a Seiko 5 GMT because of the alignment issues. I have one of the SRPGs (SRPG39) which, for me, is the perfect Seiko 5 field watch.
Everything about the dial and hands works for me, and I think I'd like the stainless case a lot. So I'm half thinking about getting one of these; I should "pay respects" to the brand behind the movement in half my awesome micro GMTs of the past while, right? But increasingly it's hard to get past mineral crystal on a ~$300 watch (let alone RRP). When you put something like this against say a $250 San Martin GMT, with its finishing suitable for a $700+ watch... I dunno.
I take the 005 orange over this one in a heartbeat. When you showed the side by side, this one looks even more junky than it does alone. Not a fan of Seiko but the Orange is a good looking watch.
Looks fine.....average and inoffensive, except for the black leather NATO. That heavy wrap around at the top doesn't look great. I think it would look much nicer on a black or dark brown leather strap.
Black one looks much better than the silver but needs a different strap/ bracelet. Seiko have lost their way, they could get away with this kind of thing when we were paying less than £100 but the qc issues, the harlex and the accuracy of the movements make this a non starter. As they are building them in China a pt5000 or a Seagull might be better, I'd give up the fourth hand for better accuracy.
Seiko's QC and pricing is a big "deception." I just picked up a swiss made Glycine Combat Sub with a brilliant selita workhorse, sapphire and built like a tank for under $300.
@@JeeGee114 I have two combat subs (one purchased in 2020) with the selita. One I just purchased recently. Never had an issue with the movement. But that's just my experience.
I can't believe Seiko think they can get away with these alignment issues, ok it's an affordable watch, but no way is it acceptable to be spending that much money and be worried about quality control - and most people buy online these days im assuming. I actually love the watch, but no way would I risk buying it online.
I like that watch, thinking of buying one if I can find one for a bit lower price. I have been looking for a all black watch that wouldn't kill my budget but haven't had any luck. The closest I came was the "Orient Ray Raven II" but that one didn't have the Arabic numerals which I wanted. Any suggestions & tips other then this one?
This is probably not something I would buy at any price. It looks OK and I'm sure it works well, but I can get more watch for less money.The NH34 is a nice movement, but it doesn't command a high price. Hardlex, poor quality control, and the lack of lume disqualify it in my book. I can forgive the leather strap because replacing it with a nylon strap wouldn't be a problem. (But I don't trust leather once it gets wet a few times, and the thickness of that strap is a bit too much.) Really, I'm trying not to hate this watch but it makes it easy for me. Thanks for the review, as always. You do good work and I enjoy your videos!
Considering brands like Boldr have GMTs with identical specs in terms of movement and dimensions, but come on a bracelet and with sapphire crystal with 200m WR for a similar price, it really makes you question Seiko's logic here. Not getting decent glass at this price range is really off putting, especially on a field style watch!
Hi Jody. Great video as usual. A nice looking piece. Question, why does it have an internal 24 hour scale when it already has a fixed bezel displaying a 24 hour scale?
Put it on black leather, the strap as supplied is not elegant at all. I prefer the stainless as a daily wearer. For me a black watch is just an occasional wear.
Hi Jody. For my part, I prefer the JDM Sbsc references. These watches were offered (before the official launch on January 12) between €290 and €300+ at Rakuten Japan. And these are the Made in Japan versions! These "K" versions are the cheapest to produce and the ones most likely to have good discounts on them, in my opinion. Nice watch nonetheless. 👍
@@JustOneMoreWatch can’t find an exact replacement unless existing replacement crystals are the exact size of mine. Thinking the watch is too new so have its own replacement. But, maybe others will fit if I can find the exact size of my crystal.
And people bash AliExpress stuff and jump for joy for Seiko when Seiko puts out misaligned bezels, mineral glass and nh35s for $400 USD?! This is outrageous. I'm not like many people here. I definitely have some smaller watches in my collection that i love like my 39mm sugess mechanical chrono but i love my massive Invictas as well. Just got a 46 mm swiss made Invicta. Sapphire crystal, ronda high beat rate automatic, full 316l stainless steel. Everything perfectly aligned, better lume than this thing Seiko put out, milled clasp, signed crown, basically all the specs and I paid $175 shipped. It might not be to your taste but the specs speak for themselves. What is going on with Seiko? I used to love them but ugh....
Reminds me more of a much cheaper Casio than a Rolex 😊! From the distance and with my poor ol' eyes, yo 🤓! That's probably the true deception here - it is first revealing it's true identity when you get close and see all the Seiko typical q-issues 😅
This is my favourite colour for numerals. It's my kind of vintage. Very much like the bulova quartz field, old radiumesque. But then... SEIKO WTF. The Lume shot is something I was shocked by. The numerals are Lume coloured, but NOT lumed? Get out of here. Biggest disappointment since I test drove a mustang.
🤔 I don’t know I’m not really a big fan of the GMT. I know everybody likes them but I’m not on that bandwagon. Maybe I’ll get there one day but I’m not really a fan. I would really like to have one as a non-GMT
Lume colored numerals that aren't actually lumed is next level Seiko
Deception
@@bradleyburton4762😂 you figured it out. That's definitely the reason for the name.
My thoughts exactly, been waiting for Seiko to lume the numerals on a field watch, thought this was it but nope
@@orangeyellow-me1pz I dont think they are that self aware....🤣
This right here is why I started to get Chinese watches with Seiko movements. They have deceived me far less than Seiko has.
I actually really like this watch, but I have to assume Seiko is the victim of their own doing by putting out the NH34, there are about a million affordable GMT’s out there. Thanks for the great review as always.
Can you name other affordable mechanical GMT watches I’m really looking for one, so ideas would be appreciated.
@@arielspalter7425 I recently got a Vostok komandirskie GMT, it's probably the cheapest non-chinese automatic GMT you can get. The quality is surprisingly good, but the stock bracelet is one of the worst Ive seen, just change the strap and youre good to go.
@@arielspalter7425 can start with Long Island Watch
@@arielspalter7425 the San Martin SN0116-G V4
The problem is if you ever want to try and resell your watch, you will find it difficult to get much back for a used San Martin or any other Chinese watch, however good the quality. I bought one of those San Martin nh34 GMTs and it surely has great specs for the money (and looks great too!), but I accept this will probably remain in my collection until my next-of-kin tosses it out!
I have the one on the bracelet and I was impressed by it. I paid $350 and have gotten compliments on it and I don’t have that happen often lol
I definitely prefer the white/cream dial version although it’s a jdm only model at the moment!
I’m gonna import one from Sakura, they’re like $315 but still on pre order
@@ajmarion How much custom tax will be ?
thanks for telling us about the JDM model - that's an interesting piece
Seiko SBSC009
@@Cravenfr no customs tax on watches under $800 in the US, the threshold is $800. Shipping is like 30$ tho or something like that, but was actually super fast
Just bought this watch a couple of days ago. I love how Seiko put a coloured numerals as neon green. It is very legible whether you are indoors or outdoors or even at night. Which to me, as a field watch, legibility is a main thing about being a field watch. Loving it, swapped out to a rubber black strap and It becomes more sporty. Gotten it slightly below the mentioned priced in this video, a definite steal for me.
Oh man, "domed mineral"; for that price, I would much prefer to get a San Martin textured dial watch with so much more to offer. Wonder why the Japanese brands like Seiko and Citizen don't offer sapphire crystal when it is clearly available and is what most people want.
Citizen does for their JDM model. But i do agree japanese brands like seiko need to up their game and offer Sapphire and AR coating
They do, but it's at the same price point of the entry level Swiss automatics like Tissot. Its all of the cheaper autos that are mineral crystal. At least in Aus@@BagoGarde
Then you should get the SM. If enough people don't like Seiko and stop buying them, they will change. But I guess people are still buying them, because actually, most of them just aren't that bothered about what kind of glass it is, or whatever.
The polar dial was possibly going to be my next purchase but that thickness makes me question that
I will say that I do really enjoy my SRPG Seiko Field watch! There are some features that don't come off on camera, (like the reflective numerals, textured dial, and blasted case finish), that give it a really nice look. It did require a better band to look it's best, though. The "blah" NATO straps weren't doing any favors.
You're still left with the question of whether the GMT feature is a requirement for YOU....but I think I'm happier without it, (and the few extra bucks in my wallet).
ps I'm rocking a Seiko "Brian May" limited edition with a Nato which I normally dont care for but this one has six lines on it to reflect the six strings of a guitar which is what the whole Watch is designed to honor. I actually love love love it!
Although it's a genuinely nice looking piece, I don't see the point of the small GMT numerals on the inside of the dial when they are present on a bezel that is fixed.
Can't wait to see the new gaff Jody. A quick tour of the studio maybe?
Would love to see a value comparison between the JDM version SBSC009 & an Explorer 2. Nice review btw - thanks JOMW!
I bought the srpg27k bracelet model at a very affordable price and put a leather strap on it. The watch, which was 146 grams, became 75 grams. It is a nice model that appeals to all ages.
Excellent video Jody. I'd go for the non coated stainless steel. The black one reminds me of one of those plastic Luminox watches. As for price drop, maybe it's not the watch itself, could be that the GMT trend is dying a little bit now.
The Seiko Japan Marketing team said we didn't need advice from an international team on this one :D
Heavy discount and the name, make it a good fit.
Thanks Jody :)
The neon greenish numerals don't glow in the dark?! That's quite absurd...
I remember when Seiko 5s were much more affordable than this, in an era of affordable GMTs from microbrands that use Seiko movements. I know a Seiko cased watch will be more collectible long term, but there are equally nice options out there today for much less money.
No lume on the numerals?
I think I'll pass on that one. I'm glad I waited for a review first.
I understand that they're trying to go for a stealthy look, and the last thing you need is a watch that lights up at night when you're on a 'mission'.
Regardless, I still would've preferred lumed numerals.
Thanks for the review, Jody.
I like the idea of this one but the redundant 24 hour marker and the bezel makes the dial too cluttered for no relevant functionality. Wouldve considered it if they made it a rotating bezel to justify the clutter by being able to track 3 timezones. Or simply removing the 24hr markers in either the bezel or dial. It just looks like they're cramming their GMT movements into preexisting designs without much intentionality.
The second row of markers on the bezel are 12-hour PM time markers for 24 hour timekeeping as used in places outside the US and in the military. Would've been a much better watch had the bezel been rotating though, I agree with you on that.
The Deception is available in UK priced at £380.00 and the Deploy at £410.00 both in FH Hinds
Seiko continues to price themselves out of the market.
and quality control themselves outa the market
Seiko continues to sell more watches every year than the year before. Enthusiasts are delusional and not their main customer.
And still people buy.
I didn't notice the bezel misalignment, but now it's one of those things that I can't un-see.
I like it. I'm not a huge fan of black/military/etc watches, other than for the actual travel phase of traveling (long-distance riding/driving/flying-airports, etc). At the moment, I use a square G-Shock for that job (which goes back in my travel case when I get where I"m going), but this could take over that role I reckon...
More than happy with my Night Vision 200m Diver’s solar powered model in PVD steel and sapphire crystal. Cost about the same as this model. Everything even lines up perfectly.
I have this watch and the alignment with the bezel is perfect… I have the steel version though.
If you want it dun read the comments lol sbsc009 are hard to get in good price range now and you can also get the jdm version for the other models if you look hard enough, sold out for the ssk with bracelet.
I like the look of the watch, especially at that price range. I think an upgrade would be a more traditional NATO strap in braided nylon. Just a thought.
Nice watch and I agree, it’s a nice alternative to the Rolex. Would loved to have seen the two SS versions as I have no interest in the black, but that’s just me.
I keep seeing such great affordable GMTs from Seiko but I always remind myself that I have zero need and no utility for tracking another timezone.
Make one up. My friend and I talk very often. She's in Africa and I'm in the USA. The GMT comes in handy sometimes so I can see what time it is over there.
I assume that Seiko was going for "Stealth" rather than "Deception", but can't argue with the aptness of the translation.
Yeah, something like that. Deploy makes sense, but Deception, not so much.
I like it, I’ll probably pick up the white one and import it from Japan
They don't come from Japan, it's a China QC nasty !
Think about it, you can buy a Pagani with sapphire & a nice bezel for $100 !
@@edwardfletcher7790 the white one is a JDM only model, which are made in Japan - says it on the dial. I would rather have this, I don’t care about specs that much
Looks very nice but I’d consider going Lumtec for legibility.
Gotta ask,....the bezel, whether rotating or not......what's up with the 360 degrees = 24 units? It's not military time equivalent,....it's not "minutes" around the dial......what is it?...and what is it for? That said, maybe it can be used as a one-time "offset"....to use it as a poor-man's GMT for the 2nd time zone offset you are at...BUT ...this IS a GMT watch with the extra hand so you don't need the faux GMT "bezel". What am I missing?
I picked up a GS GMT, the quartz SBGN027 during a recent trip to Japan so quality seiko GMT's are out there.
This might be the nicest Seiko 5 I have ever seen. If it had a 6r movement and sapphire crystal I'd be interested. It comes with a 4r movement and with a hardlex crystal and I won't buy another watch with those properties.
So they have 24hr numerals on the bezel and inside the Arabics...
You really only need one or the other or neither. I would choose neither because I believe "Less is more" would do more for this watch.
You then do away from the alignment issue or it's completely disguised, and you would have more room (and budget) to do something with the indices.
Take a page from the Rolex as shown...Maybe shake it up and do something like the Lum-Tech V10 Big Date indices and very small 24h numerals.
But that would probably perpetuate it to a higher price point.
This is of course a personal preference, and everyone's different, but being military for over 20yrs....I would take a watch with a longer power reserve than a GMT hand.
I mean I understand the tech, but in my experience crossing time zones often, I personally just change the time to the current time zone and use the little bit of math to figure out the time elsewhere. My ritual is to change the time mid-flight because I know when you look at your flight info, it will always list the local time when you land where you're flying into.
Stylistically, I'd throw a Zuludiver Kingsand band and be done with it. The only way 16mm+ of height works is with a short-sleeve shirt. I think NATO straps work best with thin field watches.
Don't think I don't see how windy it is outside at 7:10, proving once again that Jody will stop at nothing, including putting himself in harm's way, to bring us the best watch content on TH-cam.
I'll stick with restorations and if I get a GMT urge (unlikely), I'll build my own as I sold all mine
The lime green on full black is a little odd. White would have contrast more nicely i think
I bought the Speedtimer last year, in the same price bracket as this (I got it discounted), and the build is so much better than this. Everything aligns, you get a sapphire crystal and even a decent bracelet, I can't believe you are paying extra for that movement?
Great release from seiko although I don't know why they didn't release the white dial version world wide?
I like the style but i have always had a problem with the case thickness of the Seiko 5. I have had two of them and flipped them both.
My Deploy arrived today. Ordered it from Teddy B. Love it
I also saw the$399 offer Jody. My first thought was “Ok, so what’s wrong with it?…” I didn’t buy it, although a suitable price for the specs.😵💫
Is there a Mercury/ Baltany/ Pierre Paulin/ San Martin we should consider with GMT movement?
If you're getting a seiko 5, It should be the Seiko 5 GMT. It's just a gorgeous look. I don't know, the design is just right.
I think I can answer the RRP question, if Seiko sells a watch to retailers at approximately 45% of the RRP, a higher rrp means a higher sale price for Seiko, retailers discounting is eating into their own profit. In short, it's a way to present as offering great margins to retailers whilst in reality, pretty crap margins if retailers are to be competitive.
I will buy it from a Microbrand maybe eventually. With a sapphire crystal, screw down crown, a conventional strap and better qc for well under half the price of the Seiko....
I like the look of this, except for the strap. I don’t know why but I just don’t like NATO straps. I doubt I’d ever buy a Seiko 5 GMT because of the alignment issues. I have one of the SRPGs (SRPG39) which, for me, is the perfect Seiko 5 field watch.
The 16 on the bezel is orientated the wrong way. The 6 hour faces inward but the 16 faces outward.
Everything about the dial and hands works for me, and I think I'd like the stainless case a lot. So I'm half thinking about getting one of these; I should "pay respects" to the brand behind the movement in half my awesome micro GMTs of the past while, right? But increasingly it's hard to get past mineral crystal on a ~$300 watch (let alone RRP). When you put something like this against say a $250 San Martin GMT, with its finishing suitable for a $700+ watch... I dunno.
I take the 005 orange over this one in a heartbeat.
When you showed the side by side, this one looks even more junky than it does alone.
Not a fan of Seiko but the Orange is a good looking watch.
Looks fine.....average and inoffensive, except for the black leather NATO. That heavy wrap around at the top doesn't look great. I think it would look much nicer on a black or dark brown leather strap.
Good review. I'll be waiting for the price to drop but I am also looking at JDM exclusive with the white face which is also like the Rolex Explorer 2.
The only thing I would change is the Strap, not keen on the leather nato
I really like this but will wait to see what colors come out over the next 6-12 months.
Black one looks much better than the silver but needs a different strap/ bracelet. Seiko have lost their way, they could get away with this kind of thing when we were paying less than £100 but the qc issues, the harlex and the accuracy of the movements make this a non starter. As they are building them in China a pt5000 or a Seagull might be better, I'd give up the fourth hand for better accuracy.
There is no reason to have a GMT dial and a fixed GMT bezel on the same watch. That really annoys me.
Very on brand for Seiko to misalign a fixed bezel
In my opinion the white jdm version of this watch is the one to go for.
Seiko's QC and pricing is a big "deception." I just picked up a swiss made Glycine Combat Sub with a brilliant selita workhorse, sapphire and built like a tank for under $300.
That's one of my Grail watches ! AWESOME choice 👍😁
My Selitta on that watch broke down after just 1 year. Winding always was a bit gritty from the start. Much more convinced by the 4R35 as a workhorse.
@@JeeGee114 I have two combat subs (one purchased in 2020) with the selita. One I just purchased recently. Never had an issue with the movement. But that's just my experience.
@@JeeGee114 Warranty...
I believe there is a white face model too with silver bezel.
I picked one up in the UK with a 25% discount. £95 off. Very happy with the deal I got considering how new it is.
Rubicon watches
@@yogzm5645 yes
I can't believe Seiko think they can get away with these alignment issues, ok it's an affordable watch, but no way is it acceptable to be spending that much money and be worried about quality control - and most people buy online these days im assuming.
I actually love the watch, but no way would I risk buying it online.
I have a CW C63 Sealander GMT, white dial. What would I be doing with this Seiko?
I've seen smaller grandfather clocks.
I like that watch, thinking of buying one if I can find one for a bit lower price. I have been looking for a all black watch that wouldn't kill my budget but haven't had any luck. The closest I came was the "Orient Ray Raven II" but that one didn't have the Arabic numerals which I wanted. Any suggestions & tips other then this one?
The pricing is high even after discount. Hardlex Crystal and then basic movement
This is probably not something I would buy at any price. It looks OK and I'm sure it works well, but I can get more watch for less money.The NH34 is a nice movement, but it doesn't command a high price. Hardlex, poor quality control, and the lack of lume disqualify it in my book. I can forgive the leather strap because replacing it with a nylon strap wouldn't be a problem. (But I don't trust leather once it gets wet a few times, and the thickness of that strap is a bit too much.)
Really, I'm trying not to hate this watch but it makes it easy for me.
Thanks for the review, as always. You do good work and I enjoy your videos!
Just ordered the JDM white dial version.
Considering brands like Boldr have GMTs with identical specs in terms of movement and dimensions, but come on a bracelet and with sapphire crystal with 200m WR for a similar price, it really makes you question Seiko's logic here. Not getting decent glass at this price range is really off putting, especially on a field style watch!
the hardlex is getting obnoxious and keeps putting me off otherwise stylish watches, love the white JDM version
I like the SS version. If I didn't have so many GMTs 😂 I'd be all over it. Take care
Maybe they were going for something like 'incognito' or 'covert', rather than 'deception'?
Hi Jody. Great video as usual. A nice looking piece. Question, why does it have an internal 24 hour scale when it already has a fixed bezel displaying a 24 hour scale?
The inner "24 hour" scale is actually a 12 hour scale just displaying pm hours in 24-hour format, like a Hamilton.
Is the ssk025 the same as the SBSC013 in Japan? Looks are identical and the prices for the SBSC013 are a bit less on eBay in the US, at least.
SBSC are all JDM version.I dunno why they only show the white one as JDM but they do have JDM for the other colours.
Jody, are you moving, or hiding, or both? How is the moving going?
I bought one (black version), tried it on, found it far too thick, and returned it.
The Invicta model: $1000 MSRP marked down to $79. WHAT A DEAL!!!!
i'd REALLY love a Laurel Alpinist GMT
Put a slim case back on this and you can take .5mm off the thickness. I do that with every Seiko 5.
I like the new 5KeXplorer.
Put it on black leather, the strap as supplied is not elegant at all. I prefer the stainless as a daily wearer. For me a black watch is just an occasional wear.
The name deception is also in watch retails outlet in Singapore too 😂
Hi Jody. For my part, I prefer the JDM Sbsc references. These watches were offered (before the official launch on January 12) between €290 and €300+ at Rakuten Japan. And these are the Made in Japan versions! These "K" versions are the cheapest to produce and the ones most likely to have good discounts on them, in my opinion. Nice watch nonetheless. 👍
Is there a way to search Rakuten in English?
On buyee
I misaligned fixed bezel is seriously wrong. No thanks.
It would appear that the deception is that Seiko has a fit for purpose QC department
I’m having trouble finding a sapphire crystal replacement for my ssk025 field gmt. Can anyone help?
Try Long Island Watches?
@@JustOneMoreWatch can’t find an exact replacement unless existing replacement crystals are the exact size of mine. Thinking the watch is too new so have its own replacement. But, maybe others will fit if I can find the exact size of my crystal.
Cheapest I can see these in the UK is £335, which is a lot more than AUD 400!
£307 at Rubicon watches - code FIELD25
And people bash AliExpress stuff and jump for joy for Seiko when Seiko puts out misaligned bezels, mineral glass and nh35s for $400 USD?! This is outrageous. I'm not like many people here. I definitely have some smaller watches in my collection that i love like my 39mm sugess mechanical chrono but i love my massive Invictas as well. Just got a 46 mm swiss made Invicta. Sapphire crystal, ronda high beat rate automatic, full 316l stainless steel. Everything perfectly aligned, better lume than this thing Seiko put out, milled clasp, signed crown, basically all the specs and I paid $175 shipped. It might not be to your taste but the specs speak for themselves. What is going on with Seiko? I used to love them but ugh....
And yet here you are, on a Seiko review video
@@SampleTracks2224 someone didn't read the entire comment.
DECEPTION THAT SOUND LIKE A SPY MOVIE OOOHHH
i am glad they removed the tacky looking seiko text printed on the glass of the case back, I prefer clean glass casebacks personally
Reminds me more of a much cheaper Casio than a Rolex 😊! From the distance and with my poor ol' eyes, yo 🤓! That's probably the true deception here - it is first revealing it's true identity when you get close and see all the Seiko typical q-issues 😅
Never been in Japan? I wonder about JDM Seikos?
So basically this is a 100 dollar watch from china with a seiko sticker so the msrp is times 5 and they can already discount it. Nice watch
This is my favourite colour for numerals. It's my kind of vintage. Very much like the bulova quartz field, old radiumesque. But then... SEIKO WTF. The Lume shot is something I was shocked by. The numerals are Lume coloured, but NOT lumed? Get out of here. Biggest disappointment since I test drove a mustang.
Looks really good
Appealing... but, wait.
I don't get making a steel watch black so it looks like cheap plastic
Seiko HQ : “What do you want this one called?”
“Deception”
“Lovely, and what about the price?”
“Deception”
“What? I don-“
“D.e.c.e.p.t.i.o.n”
🤔 I don’t know I’m not really a big fan of the GMT. I know everybody likes them but I’m not on that bandwagon. Maybe I’ll get there one day but I’m not really a fan. I would really like to have one as a non-GMT