Watching the embers turn into ash was amazing. Using Cal’s ability to see into the history of people and objects was an amazing way to have us play as Cere and experience her last moments
What did he touch to see into her memories? Edit: I get it now! The embers turning into Ash and the weird warping visual in the background showed that Cal was using Psychometry to view Cere's last moments. I was wondering why Vader just willingly let Cal chill there with Cere's body, but the fact that the embers were ash and Cere's eyes were closed when we see Cal, alongside the warped background, all implies he is using Psychometry. The saddest part is that her last words were Cal and Trilla, not knowing if Cal is dead or not, and Cal wasn't able to say goodbye. Damn. When he thought he was going to die, Cere was his last word, too. Like a mother, son relationship. Hits even harder after the novel. What a scene. Thanks for pointing this out
@@splashnskillz37 The emperor can only beat him because of his suit, luke can only beat him because hes his son, and obi wan can only beat him because of the connection they had
@@demetriuspicklewonklewingw6443 Emperor can beat him not only because of his suit, he's the most powerful sith lord ever who playfully defeated Maul and Savage without any struggle.
The moment where Cal is holding Cere in his arms is one of the best looking cutscenes I have ever seen in a game. Cameron's performance was incredible his body language and facial expressions are amazing and the games cutscenes really show this, especially this scene.
Debra Wilson said in an interview that this scene was very intense and it was her last scene with Cam too. So this was effectively her goodbye. She could feel Cam's tears fall on her cheeks and shoulders while he was holding her. Sometimes I wish this was live action because even if the in-game was so good, it doesn't nearly do the scene justice enough.
@elliotgreen2279 I was able to hear him crying and screaming in my playthrough. Apparently some for some people they could hear him and for some people they couldn't
Honestly, I think vader, struggling against high level Jedi and still winning makes him more badass He isn’t some invincible monster he’s just the best at what he does and that’s dueling force users
@@daniell5740 When Vader goes for the two handed block, that's how you know he's struggling, or at the very least, actually giving a damn. This has been the case since Empire Strikes Back, when he wiped the floor with Luke in the last couple of minutes. Vader does the exact same thing here.
@@andyroobrick-a-brack9355 Exactly how I interpreted the fight as well. Vader is powerful but also at times arrogant and overconfident he wants to break his adversaries alongside killing them so he plays with his prey to test them. This can sometimes backfire for pre-anh vader especially but every time he is surprised he actually starts to care about the fight and when he does he always wins in the end because then his opponents are more prone to mistakes. Plus in terms of the fight with Cere it is pretty clear from the way the movement is portrayed in the cutscenes alone that she is severely outmatched and I think Respawn captured Vader brilliantly in this fight because of the last phase alone.
This segment tore my guts out. A safe haven was found, The Order was being restored, Cal was in the company of Jedi once again after years of being alone, there was hope of finally having a home again. Then it was all torn down around him. When he holds Cere, you can really feel his pain, the realisation that he is a lone Jedi once again.
I think this fight does a pretty good job of showing why Vader is such a dangerous adversary. He's not only built like a tank with his suit, but he is also very cunning and tenacious. When Cere thought she had the upper hand with Vader pinned helplessly against the wall, she leapt at him to finish him off. She was walking into a trap; all Vader had to do was grab her arm and shift to the side, and with that Cere impaled herself on his lightsaber. She snatched defeat from what she thought were the jaws of victory, and her growing power became her undoing...
Something has to. Tbh we get this picture painted for us between order 66 and a new hope of Vader running through the galaxy just slaying jedi masters. Yet everytime we've seen him in combat, very few times has he been impressive. He's lost to Obi Wan twice, only could beat Obi Wan when he was an old man and had not practiced the force in 30 years, even in that fight its questionable whether Vader truly won or Obi just sacrificed himself. Vader was not super impressive against Luke even when Luke was still a Padawan and eventually being bested by Luke. It almost feels like Vader was way more hype than he actually was.
@@nicholasroberts7891 In the fight with Obi-Wan, Kenobi always had a way of getting into Vader's head. Even if logically he should have been stronger then Obi-Wan, he always seem to slip up due to his past with Obi-Wan. In Luke's case, Luke was his son, he wasn't going to go full force against his flesh and blood who he wanted to join him in the darkside.
@@TheRealAb216 yet without emotion, he would not have been strong in the dark side. That is the difference right? Yes dark side users are stronger in theory, as they utilize the full power of the force whereas the jedi do not as they know that the force at full power is uncontrollable. The siths biggest weakness is always will power. They are mentally weak, you could see the fear in Sidious eyes when Windu bested him. The jedi show no fear in the face of death, they even embrace it if it is a sacrifice to others. I dont think Vader is mentally strong. Anakin was shown to be paranoid, apprehensive, and cynical. He was easily manipulated by sidious who pondered to that fear. Made Anakin think all of his apprehensions were true, but it was not him that was afraid.. it was the jedi that were afraid of him. I mean, this is the simplest manipulation ever.
@TheAdventGamer exactly, and the fact she wanted a rematch with vader kind of proves what you're saying even more, she new she couldn't actually beat him but she wanted a shot to buy time and she wanted to try and damage him as much as possible
@@jamieroseman4429 It’s not a Vader nerf. This just isn’t the moronically powerful legends Vader where he took on an entire group of 8 Jedi most of who were masters and we were supposed to believe that it was plausible. Especially given a barely trained Luke defeated him. Which is why those stories are fanfic now. The canon goes out of its way to prove two thing: 1) Vader barely had any sufficient challenges post Order-66, most masters were dead. A battle-hardened Jedi Master is a threat. 2) Vader’s defeat by Obi-Wan and reliance on his restrictive suit contrasts were he was before Mustafar. He is not some force god.
I liked this fight and I don't feel Vader was Nerf for the next reasons 1. His suit was damaged so he was fighting while using the force to substance himself 2. Vader is way OP but one of his major weapons is how all his opponents fear him and don't fight to their full potential since they are scared Cere used the dark and light side of the force and had no fear in her heart so she was fighting to her fullest she was not going to win but gave better fight than many jedis
@@logandelaharpe6362 he clearly wasnt trying until cere got the drop on him literally with piles of steel. he was moreso trying to break cere since she "wasnt scared of him"
Vader limping off from a fight is powerful in itself. There was nobody around that he held attachment to as Anakin, so he definitely wasn’t nerfed. Cere is just that strong of a Jedi…
You can see from the first phase of the fight that he's holding back, using only one hand for his lightsaber and even doing that cheeky force-block thing where he lowers his sword in the middle of a clash. But then as she proves that she's stronger than that, he actually puts both hands on his lightsaber and _tries._ By the time she drops that flaming shelf on him, he's actually, seriously fighting for his life. But Cere gets cocky _once_ and that's enough to seal her fate.
I think what I love the most about this fight is how they did Vader’s lightsaber combat. Very rarely is the actual moves so eye catching that it actually draws my attention to them and not just when and how to react. Every movement and action of Vader’s feels immaculate, purposeful, each swing and strike leading into the next. On phase 3 it shifts into double time, he never stops except for brief moments, he mixes in force enhanced strikes with his normal ones without even changing the stance which if we didn’t have the red shift we’d be hit with something we wouldn’t be able to block completely unexpectedly. They truly make him a master lightsaber combatant and his lightsaber fighting actually looks like a true master of sword fighting.
In Fallen Order, Vader only ever uses one arm while wielding his saber-that’s actually his preferred method. But this time he uses both hands which means serious business, and he barely walked away alive.
One of the most heartbreaking deaths in all of Star Wars. She was a survivor who did all she could to preserve the jedi and was willing to do whatever it took for what she believed in.
Yep, what makes it all the more depressing is she jumped right into vader lightsaber while he was stunned killing herself they nerfed vader and he won be sheer luck ig
People complaining about Darth Vader "being nerfed" should remember how Ahsoka gave him a run for his money just as Cere here did, i don't think there was any disservice done to Vader with this fight. He still win, but it was with effort, instead of his classic stroll walk.
I absolutely don't think Vader was nerfed here, but Ahsoka didn't give him a run for his money. She was able to keep up with him and get him by surprise while he was distracted. He still would have killed her if it weren't for Ezra and she was nowhere near close to actually killing him. Cere is a Jedi Master, though. She was already a Jedi Knight even before the Clone Wars (while Anakin was younger than her and was only promoted to a Knight *during* the Clone Wars). Not only she is a Clone Wars veteran like Anakin, but she also survived the purge. If anyone has a chance of giving Vader trouble, its a Jedi Master of her capabilities. And she still lost. No nerfs here.
@@JayL- i am not denying that Ahsoka lost, but i always assumed it was hard fought, because we cut from them fighting to Darth Vader stumbling out of the temple, exhausted like he just runned a 24 hours marathon. And ehy, not many people can claim to have sneaked up on Vader and hit him, it takes skills to even do that.
@@giacomoromano8842 no it doesn't, it's called protagonist magic aka ezra bridger armour. Plus they needed to milk ashoka tano as the character, they weren't even able to let her die, hence magical portals just so ezra could play white knight
Honestly, Vader probably just moved his body an inch at the right moment. She was diving, and really unable to change direction. Dude is to calm to not make a split second decision like that and counter the $%^% out of her the way he did. Still, brilliant fight.
I’m not gonna lie, Cere’s death got me. I seriously almost cried. I know she was facing Vader and I knew she wasn’t going to win, but I was hoping she would escape like the end of the last game. Such a great story!
Sad thing is she coulda won if she didnt force jump herself into a stunned vaders light saber these fights arent really all that nice, starwars will never be what it was
Id be shaking and crying too after watching cere kill herself on vaders lightsaber he was stunned against a wall and she force jumped into her own death, why is starwars always doomed to never top what it was
The end scene was ruined for me by a stupid bug. Cal’s model was replaced with Cere, so Cere was holding herself with a blank expression and I was so confused. After a few minutes I realized what happened and was pissed.
Wait what really??? That’s so damn disappointing I love this game but it crashed on me twice that damn Kobo matter thingy that BD1 uses murders my poor game.
The thing I love about modern Star Wars (starting with Rogue One) is how they portray Vader as this unstoppable force. He is someone you *should* fear. And... I mean, tbh, Vader has plot armor
The way Vader has those hard strikes with both hands is so intense. I think he analyzed the fight rather quickly. He went easy on cere up intill the moment she slipped up. Sure cere was Jedi master but she is no match to Vader. He really don’t fuck around he just walks away and just goes back to work. So cold
3:07 for all the people who think that cera had a chance to defeat vader.... "it is delusion to think your action have had any consequences" vader injuries wont matter
@@alanmark8452 Nope, just the state of things at the moment. Black Little Mermaid, Black Cleopatra, soon they'll have a movie where a Black man plays Abraham Lincoln.
Nothin sinister or malicious behind my comments, merely just commenting on the fact that it's Disney and virtue signaling these days is practically all they're about :)
My favourite aspect is that Vader says nothing to Cere after he mortally wounds her. No gloating. No "you fought well". Just walks away. For Cere it was the most important, and ultimately last battle of her life. For Vader, it was Tuesday.
If I'm looking at the timeline properly, Vader most likely fought Obi Wan before the events of this game, bc if you look at those past ten years, Obi Wan was the one thing Vader was obsessed with, before Sidious told him to forget about the past
@@darthdracul8372 less that, more no one expected Bode to be a former Jedi, let alone a spy. No one expects a sneak attack from an ally if they have no cause to suspect him.
@@splatoonistproductions5345 I’d love to, but experience has taught me that people such as yourself making statements like you just did will reply negatively to anything I would put forth just so that you can save face. Furthermore, if you are so defensive that you can’t recognize the truth in my statement, then there is little to no chance of us having a reasonable exchange of ideas.
Her death cutscene was insane looking. I felt like I was watching an actual movie and Cal with long hair makes it look even better. It was almost or even is just as good looking as watching a Kotor cinematic (at least to me)
Or if Vader didn’t have plot armor. This here is REAL plot armor. Not that made up shit. This game is considered canon to the Star Wars story/universe. Vader dies in episode 6 so no matter what he can never be allowed to die.
I agree, I hate when people say “comics Vader never would’ve struggled” I’ve read all the comics, and there are SEVERAL instances where he he comes very close to being beaten and most of the time he only wins because he “cheats” and, yknow, he doesn’t really care about dying
Not going to lie but was not going to see Master Cordover dying and then Cere and Cal being there really tore into my soul. Cameron Monaghan is such a good actor :)
Its extremely good but I don't think the graphics even did his acting justice. I watched an interview with Debra (Cere) and she said shooting that scene was intense. She could literally feel Cameron's tears fall on the side of her face and her shoulders as he held her. It makes me wish this was a movie or series even more.
@@rumblefish9 Interesting you say that cause during the ending, when he finally finds the words to say to Cere, it really felt to me like he was crying, and the lack of tears stood out.
Based on what we've seen here and in Fallen Order, I'd say Cere's primary fighting form was Ataru. She's quite speedy on the battlefield and dedicates all her energy into a blitzkrieg assault. In a similar vein to Qui Gon Jinn, however, she made sure to temper her attacks, providing more room for defence when put on the backfoot. She adds to her offence by using Force abilities to hamper her opponents, preventing a counterattack, though this only works consistently if the opponent is decidedly weaker in the Force, which Darth Vader is not. The main weakness for Form 4 is presented in how Cere was defeated. Much like with Ven Zallow's duel with Darth Malgus, Cere fully dedicated herself to an attack and failed to notice the subtle movement of Darth Vader which allowed him to dodge her killing blow whilst simultaneously delivering one of his own.
The lightsaber forms were invented as a gameplay mechanic for the star wars role-playing game and its video game derivatives. They have never factored into any material outside that ecosystem and pretending otherwise is silly. Cere is not using anything. You wrote a paragraph of nerdy gobbledygook for no reason
@@kryptoskillet1131 And that’s all it is. Lore. Flowery words conjured up by some forgotten writer to add flavour to the rule book of a tabletop RPG. Seriously attempting to analyse any visual depiction of lightsaber combat through that lens is a worthless exercise.
@@kryptoskillet1131 It’s moronic to treat the lightsaber combat forms like they’re something that you can visually observe. They’re modifiers on a character sheet. Sorry to burst your bubble, but the animators who worked on Jedi Survivor were not thinking about lightsaber forms when they created these cutscenes. It’s not that deep.
Honestly, it might’ve just bounced off. There’s not much information about his armor, but in ESB, Luke swipes at Vader and his saber literally bounces off. Granted, this was from a time where lightsaber combat wasn’t really fleshed out, but I always assumed that Vader’s armor was at least somewhat lightsaber-resistant. So going for a stab and focusing all of that energy on one point is probably better than a slice.
To be honest, I seen him push to his limits on legend even on the comic of Canon and besides every one of those he actually learned so even if they were tough years they were not oblivious years
I like how in 80% of the expanded universe content Darth Vader shows up in (videogame, tv show, etc) he gets his ass beat and does that weakened breathing thing lol. Can't wait to see who else beat the hell out of Vader but didn't finish the job bc the original trilogy had to happen.
Alot of people don't give Cere the credit she deserves here because she's not an original cast character. She's one of the very few jedi masters that have been genuinely seduced by the dark side of the force and had truly conquered it. The only other noteworthy Jedi Masters that achieved this was Yoda, Mace Windu, Obi-Wan, and Luke Skywalker (And eventually Anakin). She might have been one of the strongest masters Vader has fought in a long time since most were simply afraid or have been neglecting their training. Not only did Vader think it was going to be an easy fight (like the first game where she got absolutely ragdolled) but it probably threw him off how strong she became.
Okay is it me or does this one feel like it had more of a Force Unleashed vibe than the first one? Especially with this fight, i don’t think we’ve fought Vader in a game since TFU2 and we’re not even at Starkillers power level. And I mean like a proper boss fight. Last game vader came in, almost dominated us with a force choke and we had to run for our lives lol
Cere actually made him try and could have killed him if it weren’t for his last minute catch. Vader is op and all but people gotta give Cere her credit
Lucas realy got us all into thinking Jedi Masters were a bunch of useless (Prequels), I'm glad the Jedi are finally being shown as STRONG, before Cere, just with the movies, were like 3 or 4 actually strong Jedi Masters, the other ones were dying by dinossaur bites
@@Henrique-gh1wf This is explained in the Prequels. In Episode 2, there is a scene where Yoda and Mace Windu sit down and discuss the fact that their connection to the force is weakening; and debate if they should bring up this fact to the Senate. The Jedi Order at that point had become a shell of its former self, forgoing the teachings of Jedi of Old, and serving not the Will of the Force but the Republic and Senate.
Between the team sharing tea, cal and merrin's moment, bode's two-fold bombshell, and *THIS* , this has been the most erratic emotional rollar coaster I have been on in a while
After all the Jedi Vader killed before this point cere is the only Jedi that died with Vader's respect he let her die in peace after cere almost killed him
I love how vaders strikes get progressively stronger as he wants to end this fight as fast as possible, you could really feel the impact especially in the last phase of the fight when he was covered in flames. Maybe reminds him of the mustafar incident
I wonder why Vader was going so easy on her! He barely used the force at all in the cutscenes! You’d think that once you’re getting your ass kicked saber-wise because you’re the slower duelist that you’d rely on your overwhelmingly more powerful force abilities, but I guess Vader thought otherwise!
It is strange too, Vader kills Non-ForceUsers as fast as he possibly can. But he wanna "Hang out" basically with Force users. He tries to extend the duration of the fight aslong as he wants or something. Vader just LOVES it when his Opponent fears him and then he starts playing with them, see how far he can drive them deeper into Fear. In this Case where he fought Cere, she obviously shown that a Jedi that fights with no fear is as strong as a Sith who uses powerfull emotions to fight. And Vader din't seem to have expected this. Someone who fights with no fear blocking their thoughs has a verry clear insight on the situation and as it develops.
He wasn’t… he was trying his best… don’t forgot how powerful Jedi masters are… fucking idiots y’all gonna me this game look bad just because you think vader looks weak… like sorry buddy there’s thousands of extremely powerful Jedi the are equal to vader… including cere
Cere is such a pillar of bravery. She sees Darth Vader and the first thing she does is mock him, and challenge him to a duel. She’s going down as one of the most legendary Jedi in history.
Master Cordova and Cere's murders just.......there were few enough Jedi left when they lived and with them gone, the Order is one step closer to extinction. And all the knowledge that was gathered, a genuine second chance for the Order, reduced to four books and a pile of ashes. So much of the Jedi is lost.
This cinematic glitched for me. I was still playing as Cere in the cutscene so it literally shows Cere holding Cere, it made a really sad scene into a joke and ruined it for me :(
Hopefully in the next game with all the training Cal has he can finally fight and hold his own against Vader, of course he ain't gonna win but they wouldn't kill him off if he actually got the chance to face off against him.
Wasn't really happy to see her die but damn was that scene done extremely well. Easily one of the best scenes in a game (especially death scenes) that I've experienced.
I like how in-game you're winning the fight, but in the cutscenes vader is for the most part just effortlessly outperforming Cere. It wasn't until his suit got damaged after the bookcase collapsed on him that he even had to remotely try and win the duel.
I like how die hard Star Wars fans make Vader out to be this OP, lightsaber god within the dark side, but fails to remember how those feats don’t mean a thing when he got one shotted by the emperors lingering lightning before he threw him off the main floor.
man, the graphics in this version are crazy. The only thing I noticed is that in the PC version, you could hear Cal crying for Cere as he holds her, I couldn't hear it in this one, still rips my heart out.
Rewatching this fight made me think that Cere had a decent fighting chance because of lightsaber style match up. Vader always fights with idea of dominance through power, and Cere, in cutscenes and clashes, always redirects the flow rather then face it head on. The moment Cere jumped in a straight line, foregoing that aproach, she lost.
Well Veder won this fight. But lately I see that he always takes a beating no matter if he loses, at least outside of the original trilogy. Not even Dooku took that much damage fighting two Jedi.
Watching the embers turn into ash was amazing. Using Cal’s ability to see into the history of people and objects was an amazing way to have us play as Cere and experience her last moments
What did he touch to see into her memories? Edit: I get it now! The embers turning into Ash and the weird warping visual in the background showed that Cal was using Psychometry to view Cere's last moments. I was wondering why Vader just willingly let Cal chill there with Cere's body, but the fact that the embers were ash and Cere's eyes were closed when we see Cal, alongside the warped background, all implies he is using Psychometry. The saddest part is that her last words were Cal and Trilla, not knowing if Cal is dead or not, and Cal wasn't able to say goodbye. Damn. When he thought he was going to die, Cere was his last word, too. Like a mother, son relationship. Hits even harder after the novel. What a scene. Thanks for pointing this out
Wait there's a novel???
yeah, and so creative too
"He has a health bar now, we have a chance right.......right?"
Vader: *Breathing to hard laughing*
Only the Emperor, Obi Wan Kenobi and Luke Skywalker can beat him
@@splashnskillz37 The emperor can only beat him because of his suit, luke can only beat him because hes his son, and obi wan can only beat him because of the connection they had
@@demetriuspicklewonklewingw6443 but also Vader's injuries derailed him
@@demetriuspicklewonklewingw6443 Emperor can beat him not only because of his suit, he's the most powerful sith lord ever who playfully defeated Maul and Savage without any struggle.
@@illidormorn8013 not the most powerful sith, just very powerful
The moment where Cal is holding Cere in his arms is one of the best looking cutscenes I have ever seen in a game. Cameron's performance was incredible his body language and facial expressions are amazing and the games cutscenes really show this, especially this scene.
@@vrooooooooooooooooooom no, no, he's quite right
Debra Wilson said in an interview that this scene was very intense and it was her last scene with Cam too. So this was effectively her goodbye. She could feel Cam's tears fall on her cheeks and shoulders while he was holding her. Sometimes I wish this was live action because even if the in-game was so good, it doesn't nearly do the scene justice enough.
Beautiful
Just wish they didn't blur out his crying and screaming it was well deserved for us to hear
@elliotgreen2279 I was able to hear him crying and screaming in my playthrough. Apparently some for some people they could hear him and for some people they couldn't
Honestly, I think vader, struggling against high level Jedi and still winning makes him more badass
He isn’t some invincible monster he’s just the best at what he does and that’s dueling force users
He never struggled lol
@@daniell5740 When Vader goes for the two handed block, that's how you know he's struggling, or at the very least, actually giving a damn. This has been the case since Empire Strikes Back, when he wiped the floor with Luke in the last couple of minutes. Vader does the exact same thing here.
@@andyroobrick-a-brack9355 Exactly how I interpreted the fight as well. Vader is powerful but also at times arrogant and overconfident he wants to break his adversaries alongside killing them so he plays with his prey to test them.
This can sometimes backfire for pre-anh vader especially but every time he is surprised he actually starts to care about the fight and when he does he always wins in the end because then his opponents are more prone to mistakes.
Plus in terms of the fight with Cere it is pretty clear from the way the movement is portrayed in the cutscenes alone that she is severely outmatched and I think Respawn captured Vader brilliantly in this fight because of the last phase alone.
It's the same reason why John Wick is a badass. Characters who get up after an ass whooping are the just so cool.
Basically vader in every star wars comics story
The most sad part about thus scene is that Cal didn't even got to say goodbye to Cere, he just heard her last thoughts using psychometry
This segment tore my guts out. A safe haven was found, The Order was being restored, Cal was in the company of Jedi once again after years of being alone, there was hope of finally having a home again. Then it was all torn down around him. When he holds Cere, you can really feel his pain, the realisation that he is a lone Jedi once again.
I think this fight does a pretty good job of showing why Vader is such a dangerous adversary. He's not only built like a tank with his suit, but he is also very cunning and tenacious. When Cere thought she had the upper hand with Vader pinned helplessly against the wall, she leapt at him to finish him off. She was walking into a trap; all Vader had to do was grab her arm and shift to the side, and with that Cere impaled herself on his lightsaber. She snatched defeat from what she thought were the jaws of victory, and her growing power became her undoing...
Something has to. Tbh we get this picture painted for us between order 66 and a new hope of Vader running through the galaxy just slaying jedi masters. Yet everytime we've seen him in combat, very few times has he been impressive. He's lost to Obi Wan twice, only could beat Obi Wan when he was an old man and had not practiced the force in 30 years, even in that fight its questionable whether Vader truly won or Obi just sacrificed himself. Vader was not super impressive against Luke even when Luke was still a Padawan and eventually being bested by Luke. It almost feels like Vader was way more hype than he actually was.
Vader is also faster than he looks, even when in the suit.
@@nicholasroberts7891 In the fight with Obi-Wan, Kenobi always had a way of getting into Vader's head. Even if logically he should have been stronger then Obi-Wan, he always seem to slip up due to his past with Obi-Wan. In Luke's case, Luke was his son, he wasn't going to go full force against his flesh and blood who he wanted to join him in the darkside.
@@nicholasroberts7891 Vader had emotional attachments to both those people and his emotions have always been his downfall.
@@TheRealAb216 yet without emotion, he would not have been strong in the dark side. That is the difference right? Yes dark side users are stronger in theory, as they utilize the full power of the force whereas the jedi do not as they know that the force at full power is uncontrollable. The siths biggest weakness is always will power. They are mentally weak, you could see the fear in Sidious eyes when Windu bested him. The jedi show no fear in the face of death, they even embrace it if it is a sacrifice to others. I dont think Vader is mentally strong. Anakin was shown to be paranoid, apprehensive, and cynical. He was easily manipulated by sidious who pondered to that fear. Made Anakin think all of his apprehensions were true, but it was not him that was afraid.. it was the jedi that were afraid of him. I mean, this is the simplest manipulation ever.
She had no chance of beating vader but she actually tried, thats a lot more than most people wouldve
She actually had a pretty good chance. She was literally a few inches off
True, I kind of saw the fight as "I'm going to die but I'm going to make sure I buy as much time with my life as possible" kind of thing.
@TheAdventGamer exactly, and the fact she wanted a rematch with vader kind of proves what you're saying even more, she new she couldn't actually beat him but she wanted a shot to buy time and she wanted to try and damage him as much as possible
@@karolclark791 Yeah but its a clear Vader nerf. They overpowered her just to give her a badass scene.
@@jamieroseman4429 It’s not a Vader nerf. This just isn’t the moronically powerful legends Vader where he took on an entire group of 8 Jedi most of who were masters and we were supposed to believe that it was plausible. Especially given a barely trained Luke defeated him. Which is why those stories are fanfic now. The canon goes out of its way to prove two thing: 1) Vader barely had any sufficient challenges post Order-66, most masters were dead. A battle-hardened Jedi Master is a threat. 2) Vader’s defeat by Obi-Wan and reliance on his restrictive suit contrasts were he was before Mustafar. He is not some force god.
I liked this fight and I don't feel Vader was Nerf for the next reasons
1. His suit was damaged so he was fighting while using the force to substance himself
2. Vader is way OP but one of his major weapons is how all his opponents fear him and don't fight to their full potential since they are scared Cere used the dark and light side of the force and had no fear in her heart so she was fighting to her fullest she was not going to win but gave better fight than many jedis
A low tier Jedi shouldn’t have been able to scratch Vader he was massively nerfed
@@logandelaharpe6362 he clearly wasnt trying until cere got the drop on him literally with piles of steel. he was moreso trying to break cere since she "wasnt scared of him"
@@logandelaharpe6362 Cere isn't a low tier Jedi. She's basically at a master at this point in her story.
Average Jedi masters are low tier for Vader who walks though dozens of assorted knights and masters at the same time
@@logandelaharpe6362 that was pre-suit Vader. This is post. Pre suit and post suit and Vader are way different.
Vader limping off from a fight is powerful in itself. There was nobody around that he held attachment to as Anakin, so he definitely wasn’t nerfed.
Cere is just that strong of a Jedi…
@Matheus Alcântara People don't realize that Vader is able to (nearly) lose sometimes, it just makes him more interesting.
Yup if only she didn't do that stupid, dive move she would have won.
You can see from the first phase of the fight that he's holding back, using only one hand for his lightsaber and even doing that cheeky force-block thing where he lowers his sword in the middle of a clash.
But then as she proves that she's stronger than that, he actually puts both hands on his lightsaber and _tries._ By the time she drops that flaming shelf on him, he's actually, seriously fighting for his life. But Cere gets cocky _once_ and that's enough to seal her fate.
Cere isnt that strong just plot.
Vader is actually nerfed because of his suit. Anakin is stronger.
I think what I love the most about this fight is how they did Vader’s lightsaber combat. Very rarely is the actual moves so eye catching that it actually draws my attention to them and not just when and how to react. Every movement and action of Vader’s feels immaculate, purposeful, each swing and strike leading into the next. On phase 3 it shifts into double time, he never stops except for brief moments, he mixes in force enhanced strikes with his normal ones without even changing the stance which if we didn’t have the red shift we’d be hit with something we wouldn’t be able to block completely unexpectedly. They truly make him a master lightsaber combatant and his lightsaber fighting actually looks like a true master of sword fighting.
In Fallen Order, Vader only ever uses one arm while wielding his saber-that’s actually his preferred method.
But this time he uses both hands which means serious business, and he barely walked away alive.
One of the most heartbreaking deaths in all of Star Wars. She was a survivor who did all she could to preserve the jedi and was willing to do whatever it took for what she believed in.
Padmes and obi wans were way heartbreaking but ok bud
Yep, what makes it all the more depressing is she jumped right into vader lightsaber while he was stunned killing herself they nerfed vader and he won be sheer luck ig
She died as she once was, and had become once again; a knight of the Jedi Order. There is no other end she would wanted.
@@goodbroadcast9633 don’t care, didn’t ask; cope harder lil bro
padme was a far worse character than cere. Obi wan tho is fs better obviously.@@goodbroadcast9633
People complaining about Darth Vader "being nerfed" should remember how Ahsoka gave him a run for his money just as Cere here did, i don't think there was any disservice done to Vader with this fight. He still win, but it was with effort, instead of his classic stroll walk.
Ashoka took Vader by surprise..... He dominated the duel without any scratch.
I absolutely don't think Vader was nerfed here, but Ahsoka didn't give him a run for his money. She was able to keep up with him and get him by surprise while he was distracted. He still would have killed her if it weren't for Ezra and she was nowhere near close to actually killing him.
Cere is a Jedi Master, though. She was already a Jedi Knight even before the Clone Wars (while Anakin was younger than her and was only promoted to a Knight *during* the Clone Wars). Not only she is a Clone Wars veteran like Anakin, but she also survived the purge. If anyone has a chance of giving Vader trouble, its a Jedi Master of her capabilities.
And she still lost. No nerfs here.
Ahsoka snuck up from behind to land a hit on Vader. In a straight up fight, Vader straight up dominated and KO'd her. Horrible comparison.
@@JayL- i am not denying that Ahsoka lost, but i always assumed it was hard fought, because we cut from them fighting to Darth Vader stumbling out of the temple, exhausted like he just runned a 24 hours marathon. And ehy, not many people can claim to have sneaked up on Vader and hit him, it takes skills to even do that.
@@giacomoromano8842 no it doesn't, it's called protagonist magic aka ezra bridger armour. Plus they needed to milk ashoka tano as the character, they weren't even able to let her die, hence magical portals just so ezra could play white knight
8:40 Vader: You missed me. But if it's any consolation you died bravely
Reminded me of ezra:
I don't fear you
Vader: Then you will die braver than most
Honestly, Vader probably just moved his body an inch at the right moment. She was diving, and really unable to change direction. Dude is to calm to not make a split second decision like that and counter the $%^% out of her the way he did.
Still, brilliant fight.
@@SuitYak He didn't move lol he grabbed her hand and moved it and just impelled her. She got checkmated tbh
I’m not gonna lie, Cere’s death got me. I seriously almost cried. I know she was facing Vader and I knew she wasn’t going to win, but I was hoping she would escape like the end of the last game. Such a great story!
Sad thing is she coulda won if she didnt force jump herself into a stunned vaders light saber these fights arent really all that nice, starwars will never be what it was
Star wars was never good in the first place 😂@@zedandkat9886
9:35 When I got to this point I was actually shaking from how good this part was. The soundtrack elevated this to the best part of the game.
me too man...damn near cried
Id be shaking and crying too after watching cere kill herself on vaders lightsaber he was stunned against a wall and she force jumped into her own death, why is starwars always doomed to never top what it was
Pulling her in with the force without choking her shows he was toying with her
I gotta say, it was a real honor playing as Cere.
Ngl this scene alone is way better than the whole star wars sequel from Disney
Considering that Disney had to approve the game story before it got made.
No it’s not. 10 minutes of cutscene recorded from a potato. Vs 7 hours of movie
Ohhh boi, here we go with the comments of "let me hate it cuz the internet told me so"
Still beating this dead horse huh?
@@Us3r739 7 hours of garbage 🗑️
When Vader showed up, my heart sunk. I knew right then that this was where Cere’s story would end. RIP.
The end scene was ruined for me by a stupid bug. Cal’s model was replaced with Cere, so Cere was holding herself with a blank expression and I was so confused. After a few minutes I realized what happened and was pissed.
😂😂😂 the same thing happened to me and i was so confused at first
Wait what really??? That’s so damn disappointing I love this game but it crashed on me twice that damn Kobo matter thingy that BD1 uses murders my poor game.
Hopefully it gets fixed for PC I don’t have to worry about those problems, because I have a PlayStation but still that’s messed up.
I'd be laughing wym mad?
Imagine Vader getting home after the fight then later in the same week someone tells him they found Kenobi.
I'm pretty sure he'd kill that messenger.
The thing I love about modern Star Wars (starting with Rogue One) is how they portray Vader as this unstoppable force.
He is someone you *should* fear.
And... I mean, tbh, Vader has plot armor
If Vader is on EP6, It means that he defeated all enemies who he fought against.
kind of but not really, in any media he's showed in he NEEDS to survive for the media to be considered canon
@@logan6172 yes. That’s plot armor. He cannot die because the plot wouldn’t make sense. He can’t die because of plot. He has plot armor.
@@eatcatchina5739 so you're telling me that cere should beat him when he destroyed much more powerful threats?
@@logan6172 you’re putting a lot of words in my mouth, all I said was that he has plot armor
The way Vader has those hard strikes with both hands is so intense. I think he analyzed the fight rather quickly. He went easy on cere up intill the moment she slipped up. Sure cere was Jedi master but she is no match to Vader. He really don’t fuck around he just walks away and just goes back to work. So cold
It was more like he stumbled away.
Dude got folded but won due to plot armor lmao 😂
3:07 for all the people who think that cera had a chance to defeat vader.... "it is delusion to think your action have had any consequences" vader injuries wont matter
Lol the meta commentary on all offshoots of the star wars trilogy
She only got that far due to virtue signaling lol.. Gotta make the black female jedi a decent match for the most powerful white dude in the galaxy.
@@RestrictedTWO That's a really toxic way to look at the game and the world.
@@alanmark8452 Nope, just the state of things at the moment. Black Little Mermaid, Black Cleopatra, soon they'll have a movie where a Black man plays Abraham Lincoln.
Nothin sinister or malicious behind my comments, merely just commenting on the fact that it's Disney and virtue signaling these days is practically all they're about :)
My favourite aspect is that Vader says nothing to Cere after he mortally wounds her.
No gloating.
No "you fought well".
Just walks away.
For Cere it was the most important, and ultimately last battle of her life. For Vader, it was Tuesday.
Crazy to think Vader fought obi wan and killed cere in the same year
Edit: and was almost killed by cere and obi wan
He was not almost killed by cere. This was an easy fight for vader. he fights without caring about being injured
So he gets cocky and almost loses?
@@SGD572 he would’ve lost if he wasn’t smart and powerful
If I'm looking at the timeline properly, Vader most likely fought Obi Wan before the events of this game, bc if you look at those past ten years, Obi Wan was the one thing Vader was obsessed with, before Sidious told him to forget about the past
@@demetriuspicklewonklewingw6443 This was very obviously not an easy fight lol, Cere nearly killed him
Master Cordova got done dirty
It wasn’t his fault he just underestimated how deadly this man was.
@@darthdracul8372 less that, more no one expected Bode to be a former Jedi, let alone a spy. No one expects a sneak attack from an ally if they have no cause to suspect him.
Sloppy writing time and time again in Star Wars when it comes to playing fast and loose with jedi speed and jedi reflexes.
@@dereklarner6298 think you can do any better?? go ahead and put yourself into their writing teams and do it yourself if your so sure
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I’d love to, but experience has taught me that people such as yourself making statements like you just did will reply negatively to anything I would put forth just so that you can save face. Furthermore, if you are so defensive that you can’t recognize the truth in my statement, then there is little to no chance of us having a reasonable exchange of ideas.
For Cal, this was probably one of the worst days of his life. For Darth Vader, it was Tuesday.
This is the real Vader not scared of fire or anything for that matter.
Cameron Monaghan better get nominated for best performance at The Game Awards this year. This scene got me tearing up
Greez was pretty good when they were talking on the Mantis
@@psychosalad6653 Truth!
@@psychosalad6653 Greez telling Cal to not beat himself up over what Bode did is my favourite Greez moment now
Her death cutscene was insane looking. I felt like I was watching an actual movie and Cal with long hair makes it look even better. It was almost or even is just as good looking as watching a Kotor cinematic (at least to me)
This is one of the bosses, where even if you defeat the boss, you will die in the cutscene.
C’mon Cere, shake it off. A lightsaber to the gut is nothing these days
Cere really gave Vader a run for his money. If he wasn’t so OP, she might’ve won.
Or if Vader didn’t have plot armor. This here is REAL plot armor. Not that made up shit. This game is considered canon to the Star Wars story/universe. Vader dies in episode 6 so no matter what he can never be allowed to die.
I agree, I hate when people say “comics Vader never would’ve struggled” I’ve read all the comics, and there are SEVERAL instances where he he comes very close to being beaten and most of the time he only wins because he “cheats” and, yknow, he doesn’t really care about dying
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Not true lol
Vader was toying with her.
@@meurumtrain4747 That's what you get when you choose to write your story between pre-established lore. Not really Vader's fault, is it?
The health bar at the top of the screen doesn't represent Vader's HP. It represents his patience.
Not going to lie but was not going to see Master Cordover dying and then Cere and Cal being there really tore into my soul. Cameron Monaghan is such a good actor :)
Its extremely good but I don't think the graphics even did his acting justice. I watched an interview with Debra (Cere) and she said shooting that scene was intense. She could literally feel Cameron's tears fall on the side of her face and her shoulders as he held her. It makes me wish this was a movie or series even more.
@@rumblefish9 Interesting you say that cause during the ending, when he finally finds the words to say to Cere, it really felt to me like he was crying, and the lack of tears stood out.
Based on what we've seen here and in Fallen Order, I'd say Cere's primary fighting form was Ataru. She's quite speedy on the battlefield and dedicates all her energy into a blitzkrieg assault. In a similar vein to Qui Gon Jinn, however, she made sure to temper her attacks, providing more room for defence when put on the backfoot. She adds to her offence by using Force abilities to hamper her opponents, preventing a counterattack, though this only works consistently if the opponent is decidedly weaker in the Force, which Darth Vader is not. The main weakness for Form 4 is presented in how Cere was defeated. Much like with Ven Zallow's duel with Darth Malgus, Cere fully dedicated herself to an attack and failed to notice the subtle movement of Darth Vader which allowed him to dodge her killing blow whilst simultaneously delivering one of his own.
Ataru would make the most sense, as judging by her former Padawan, Trilla’s fighting style in the last game, she also uses form 4, along with form 7
The lightsaber forms were invented as a gameplay mechanic for the star wars role-playing game and its video game derivatives. They have never factored into any material outside that ecosystem and pretending otherwise is silly. Cere is not using anything. You wrote a paragraph of nerdy gobbledygook for no reason
@@kryptoskillet1131 And that’s all it is. Lore. Flowery words conjured up by some forgotten writer to add flavour to the rule book of a tabletop RPG.
Seriously attempting to analyse any visual depiction of lightsaber combat through that lens is a worthless exercise.
@@mphylo2296 it's called geeking out. You should try it sometimes
@@kryptoskillet1131 It’s moronic to treat the lightsaber combat forms like they’re something that you can visually observe. They’re modifiers on a character sheet. Sorry to burst your bubble, but the animators who worked on Jedi Survivor were not thinking about lightsaber forms when they created these cutscenes. It’s not that deep.
Imagine how the timeline would go if Cere went with a slice instead of a stab
"You should've gone for the slice."
Vader would have coughed her hand anyway
Honestly, it might’ve just bounced off. There’s not much information about his armor, but in ESB, Luke swipes at Vader and his saber literally bounces off. Granted, this was from a time where lightsaber combat wasn’t really fleshed out, but I always assumed that Vader’s armor was at least somewhat lightsaber-resistant. So going for a stab and focusing all of that energy on one point is probably better than a slice.
Vader grabbed her hand and redirected her attack. I don't think it would have made much of a difference whatever she did.
@@loganc751 in this I think it’s resistant, in the final cutscene she slices at his open hand and it doesn’t damage it.
The fact that Cal had to watch his master die twice, first Jaro Tapal and now Cere. That's just heartbreaking man.
It's a tough year for Vader to be yeeted by both Cere and Obi Wan
To be honest, I seen him push to his limits on legend even on the comic of Canon and besides every one of those he actually learned so even if they were tough years they were not oblivious years
love the fact Cal protects BD before himself
Man Bodes betrayal was awful just heartbreaking look at his face as the alarm goes off just man
The fact that Cere knew Cal would be able to sense her final moments in force echo and used her last words to talk to him
I love how vader killed her he didn't say anything... just left her without saying anything
Too busy wheezing
He almost lost, had to catch his breath
@@mikeT1100 nope he was at 15% of his power at this moment in star wars Canon no one can defeat him until luke
@@warsoldier07 Did he tell you that personally or did you calculate that on your own?
@@mikeT1100 calculate? It's not that hard if he's on 50/50 with kenobi and kenobi is 4 or 5 times stronger than cere it's not that hard
I like how in 80% of the expanded universe content Darth Vader shows up in (videogame, tv show, etc) he gets his ass beat and does that weakened breathing thing lol. Can't wait to see who else beat the hell out of Vader but didn't finish the job bc the original trilogy had to happen.
Why would you put that in your title the day the fuckign game was released? My god.
Money
I saw someone say that Vader's health bar is a patience meter and whenever it gets too low, he loses his patience and just kills you
Alot of people don't give Cere the credit she deserves here because she's not an original cast character. She's one of the very few jedi masters that have been genuinely seduced by the dark side of the force and had truly conquered it. The only other noteworthy Jedi Masters that achieved this was Yoda, Mace Windu, Obi-Wan, and Luke Skywalker (And eventually Anakin).
She might have been one of the strongest masters Vader has fought in a long time since most were simply afraid or have been neglecting their training. Not only did Vader think it was going to be an easy fight (like the first game where she got absolutely ragdolled) but it probably threw him off how strong she became.
One of the most intense and emotional scene of the game, Vader's combat style is spot on slow yet very stong
Okay is it me or does this one feel like it had more of a Force Unleashed vibe than the first one? Especially with this fight, i don’t think we’ve fought Vader in a game since TFU2 and we’re not even at Starkillers power level. And I mean like a proper boss fight. Last game vader came in, almost dominated us with a force choke and we had to run for our lives lol
Damn I didn’t know cere dies glad I read the title
Me, completely emotionally stable: 🙂
Me realizing that Cal was experiencing Cere's death as a force echo:😭😭😭😭😭
cere had a serious chance of winning, but we know how the story ends
Vader almost always turns any Star Wars moment into a badass one.
Cere actually made him try and could have killed him if it weren’t for his last minute catch. Vader is op and all but people gotta give Cere her credit
Lucas realy got us all into thinking Jedi Masters were a bunch of useless (Prequels), I'm glad the Jedi are finally being shown as STRONG, before Cere, just with the movies, were like 3 or 4 actually strong Jedi Masters, the other ones were dying by dinossaur bites
@@Henrique-gh1wf This is explained in the Prequels.
In Episode 2, there is a scene where Yoda and Mace Windu sit down and discuss the fact that their connection to the force is weakening; and debate if they should bring up this fact to the Senate.
The Jedi Order at that point had become a shell of its former self, forgoing the teachings of Jedi of Old, and serving not the Will of the Force but the Republic and Senate.
Cere is a legit Jedi Master, but that stab wouldn’t have killed him. He got stabbed in the same place in the last game and he just tanked it.
Could you not spoil the entire climax of the game in the title next time please?
Vader thinking he’s hot shit, little does he know I completed the double oggdo bogdo fight 30 minutes before this fight.
Greez is unironically displaying some of the best acting in all of Star Wars history
It was so shocking, to realize that when you were playing as Cere, Cal was using his abilities to see her last moments.
I swear, BD acting like a scared, crying puppy while he runs to Cal after seeing Cere die makes me die internally every time
To beat Vader, you must become what you swore not to be. Luke almost didn't come back from his hatred.
Between the team sharing tea, cal and merrin's moment, bode's two-fold bombshell, and *THIS* , this has been the most erratic emotional rollar coaster I have been on in a while
I like how Vader is cannonicaly making "AGGHHHH" sound when he gets hit hard
Don't most people
After all the Jedi Vader killed before this point cere is the only Jedi that died with Vader's respect he let her die in peace after cere almost killed him
Didn’t think of it that way
I love how vaders strikes get progressively stronger as he wants to end this fight as fast as possible, you could really feel the impact especially in the last phase of the fight when he was covered in flames. Maybe reminds him of the mustafar incident
video game acting is on the level of oscar worthy now, my god this was by far one of the most gut wrenching cutscenes ive seen in a long time.
Bodes face when he realized it was time to betray. 0:10
Great catch
Lol
I noticed this when I replayed it. There’s a lot more times where you can tell he’s up to something.
the resignation on his face.
I wonder why Vader was going so easy on her! He barely used the force at all in the cutscenes! You’d think that once you’re getting your ass kicked saber-wise because you’re the slower duelist that you’d rely on your overwhelmingly more powerful force abilities, but I guess Vader thought otherwise!
He was playing with his toys before breaking her
Well, he better be carefull next time when playing with his "toys", this one missed him by a few centimeters.
Most force users have a force barrier that needs to be broken first.
It is strange too, Vader kills Non-ForceUsers as fast as he possibly can. But he wanna "Hang out" basically with Force users. He tries to extend the duration of the fight aslong as he wants or something.
Vader just LOVES it when his Opponent fears him and then he starts playing with them, see how far he can drive them deeper into Fear.
In this Case where he fought Cere, she obviously shown that a Jedi that fights with no fear is as strong as a Sith who uses powerfull emotions to fight. And Vader din't seem to have expected this.
Someone who fights with no fear blocking their thoughs has a verry clear insight on the situation and as it develops.
He wasn’t… he was trying his best… don’t forgot how powerful Jedi masters are… fucking idiots y’all gonna me this game look bad just because you think vader looks weak… like sorry buddy there’s thousands of extremely powerful Jedi the are equal to vader… including cere
I love this because it reminds me of the legends comics of Vader fighting Jedi masters
Sere dying from the EXACT same wound that Sabine just casually walks off like it was a flesh Wound
my favorite part was the little shimmy he does to get back up at the end of the cere fight.
Cere is such a pillar of bravery. She sees Darth Vader and the first thing she does is mock him, and challenge him to a duel. She’s going down as one of the most legendary Jedi in history.
Damn... that Yoda flip at 8:17 was crispy...
Master Cordova and Cere's murders just.......there were few enough Jedi left when they lived and with them gone, the Order is one step closer to extinction. And all the knowledge that was gathered, a genuine second chance for the Order, reduced to four books and a pile of ashes. So much of the Jedi is lost.
Darth Vader doesn't have a health bar.
Just a patience meter.
Cal Kestis saga is the best of Star Wars in recent years
But can we talk about Greez just stopping Cal from blaming himself for not seeing Bode's betrayal? Tiny man wasn't about to watch Cal beat himself up.
This cinematic glitched for me. I was still playing as Cere in the cutscene so it literally shows Cere holding Cere, it made a really sad scene into a joke and ruined it for me :(
Does anyone else catch Cal grabbing BD-1 and shielding him because he tried to jump and help Cordova?? My heart is in shambles
Hopefully in the next game with all the training Cal has he can finally fight and hold his own against Vader, of course he ain't gonna win but they wouldn't kill him off if he actually got the chance to face off against him.
I love how Vader starts every fight using only one hand, then when he gets serious he two-hands it.
I like how vaders stance at 7:07 reminds me of a samurai in heavy armor and 7:13 was just cinematic af.
7:13 vader is flexing medichorians here😂
She may not have ever had a chance to win, but she certainly laid the hurt on Vader pretty thick. His staggered exit was proof of that.
She did have a chance it was just the jump and dash
Cere fought amazingly especially since she was in a battle before battling Darth Vader
Its after winning these fights that propels Vader into becoming a menace.
Wasn't really happy to see her die but damn was that scene done extremely well. Easily one of the best scenes in a game (especially death scenes) that I've experienced.
Every time I think Vader can't get more badass (and terrifying), I'm proven very wrong. And I'm totally fine with that
I’m pretty sure that’s not vaders health bar but just his patience instead.
I like how in-game you're winning the fight, but in the cutscenes vader is for the most part just effortlessly outperforming Cere. It wasn't until his suit got damaged after the bookcase collapsed on him that he even had to remotely try and win the duel.
Vader walking away like “that’s gonna hurt in the morning.”
I like how die hard Star Wars fans make Vader out to be this OP, lightsaber god within the dark side, but fails to remember how those feats don’t mean a thing when he got one shotted by the emperors lingering lightning before he threw him off the main floor.
man, the graphics in this version are crazy. The only thing I noticed is that in the PC version, you could hear Cal crying for Cere as he holds her, I couldn't hear it in this one, still rips my heart out.
3:30 Jedi live like this and don't see any issue?
uNcle Greez's shock and silent pain cut DEEP. 😢😢😢
Rewatching this fight made me think that Cere had a decent fighting chance because of lightsaber style match up. Vader always fights with idea of dominance through power, and Cere, in cutscenes and clashes, always redirects the flow rather then face it head on. The moment Cere jumped in a straight line, foregoing that aproach, she lost.
I still can't get over the fact, that in polish version vader is voiced by the same guy that voiced kratos, sounds so weird lmao
The only thing canon in the fight against Vader were the cutscenes
Congratulations for discovering how games work, took you a few decades tho
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Even in the cutscenes she destroy Vader lmao. If wasn't plot armor...
Still weird, she looks too fine while Vader is dying
@@MrThecrazyzombie he had burning rubble dropped on him and damaged his suit is all.
Well Veder won this fight. But lately I see that he always takes a beating no matter if he loses, at least outside of the original trilogy. Not even Dooku took that much damage fighting two Jedi.