You know, I know that this is just a TV show, and these are just actors playing a role in a story. But out there in the real world, real cops, human beings, are being asked to live out heart wrenching scenes like this every day. I couldn't do it. Lot of respect for those who do.
Andy has sympathy, but I don't think he considered letting him walk. The man committed a murder, to assuage his own guilt over helping his father abuse his niece. He aided in one crime, then committed another that couldn't undo the harm he helped cause.
January161992 you need to upload the very next scene when the sister arrives at the precinct and ends with her giving her brother a hug. Just a strong scene
Hands down the greatest cop drama show on TV it whips the ass out of everybody for the exception of The shield The Shield's up there with this one and who doesn't love Andy sipowicz he made NYPD blue.
Yeah, nah, District Attorney would never want me on the jury of a case like this. Not Guilty! ADA: but he admits to murdering the guy. We have the murder weapon. His finger prints are on it. We have witnesses and CC video. Me: Not guilty.
Yeah, if that went to trial, I’d definitely make it a hung jury. If I’m the cop taking that interview, the tape is getting lost and he’s out the door and told to keep his mouth shut.
@@claymac7895- Or it would fall under jury nullification. The jury would conclude he did it, and find him not guilty anyway. It might not happen often, but it happens.
@@partybusexperiance3289 Hmmm. Don't care about the law, most of which is just silly rules made up by people wanted to boss other people around. An oath though. I take those seriously. That's your word. I'd have to tell the judge and ADA during jury selection I wouldn't be able to convict this guy. I've never served on a jury... I have to see exactly what's involved in the oath.
Exactly. By the time Andy "helps" him with his statement, this guy is going to look like a hero (which he really is). Andy will then talk to the DA and this guy is home by dinner time.
This is why we can't permit cops to do exactly that. They can be played, and lied to, and they can get in the habit of "tuning a guy up" or "helping someone confince the judge of what really happened", and the fiction sets guilty people free and innocent people to jail. This old show showed that, and showed Andy doing just that to people who swayed him one way or the other. But it's not his job, and not his call. It's what judges and especially juries are for, but they can't make the right decisions if they don't get the facts.
So, when your father tripped on that tray he had the knife in his hand? this was a terrible accident you couldn't have possibly have prevented son, try not to let it screw you up, you don't wanna be missing any sleep or even a day of work but if you're free tonight me and a couple of guys are going to watch the game at a bar down the street and it's my turn to buy, I no longer partake so I'll even drive you home when we're done.
I just reviewed the scene and it's good enough that I will post it when we get to Season 12 soon. It was left ambiguous, but implied that the murder charge be knocked down to manslaughter and he would only do a small amount of time.
I used to watch this with my old man but don't really remember anything. Sense Andy always broke the law by beating people up and getting confessions after they asked for a lawyer (which by law that confession can't be used in court) did Andy ever fix a statement and let someone go? This guy deserved to have them write this off as a case of self defense. Lie and say the dad attacked him when he confronted him. He isn't a danger to society and obviously not a vigilante. He did the right thing and killed a pedophile who prayed on his own family.
Folks ,there are very few real police that have nerves of steel and wit like this police character on this show! This actor is a true public servant because he is not political correctness as we see today!
The torment of knowing you took your father's life juxtaposed with it being a righteous act of vengeance and justice would call it case closed timed served. Already on mental arrest so to speak for the rest of his life...Send him home and buy him a drink if you see him 🍻
Sounds like a case for Nullification if there ever was one . I can be open minded about crimes that are simple property crimes but this class ...... personal crimes are a WHOLE 'nother ball game . Obviously there are those who will not like my opinion that we should have a spot picked out behind the local courthouse so this garbage case will get resolved within two minutes and be over and done with but if they can have their opinion then I can have mine . NO reason to put children through a courtroom over this and recidivism is a word that should NEVER appear in connection with a case like this .
thats what youre supposed to do to rippers, you provide the proper punishment for their actions, because god knows the legal system doesnt. its one of the best ways to entertain yourself while locked up.
No crime is as heinous as pedophilia, scarring the innocent. JB Blanc was superb as the vengeful son. Both of them would have given him a walk. Justifiable homicide, anyone?
That the man took this action could be held to his credit. But he also allowed his niece to be abused through his willful blindness to his father's true nature. He acted to assuage his own guilt. He deserves sympathy, but he's no hero.
You know, I know that this is just a TV show, and these are just actors playing a role in a story. But out there in the real world, real cops, human beings, are being asked to live out heart wrenching scenes like this every day. I couldn't do it. Lot of respect for those who do.
Some of these episodes are based on true occurrences. Just like Law & Order. Names are changed.....
The actors, that played the perps in this series were outstanding!! This was one of the best TV shows period.
You can tell Andy wants to let this guy walk.
That's why you got the phrase JUSTIFIED HOMICIDE
I would.
Yes he did
Andy has sympathy, but I don't think he considered letting him walk. The man committed a murder, to assuage his own guilt over helping his father abuse his niece. He aided in one crime, then committed another that couldn't undo the harm he helped cause.
This show knew how to deliver a gut punch.
One of the dozens and dozens of gripping story lines and scenes that this show brought.
The series' most sympathetic perp.
January161992 you need to upload the very next scene when the sister arrives at the precinct and ends with her giving her brother a hug. Just a strong scene
The acting in this show was just top notch.
Credit the directing, too. There is talent in getting the most out of actors the way this show did.
Who ever this actor is........damn, what a fine job he did.
The part of Alex was played by J B Blanc, a distinguished voice actor for many video game franchises.
Not only am I watching this shit on Hulu right now but I’m watching these fucking clips. Gold.
Andy very tempted to go for a high-five here...
Give this poor guy a medal!
For murder? This wasn't justice. He wanted to assuage his own guilt, but this didn't help his niece.
Hands down the greatest cop drama show on TV it whips the ass out of everybody for the exception of The shield The Shield's up there with this one and who doesn't love Andy sipowicz he made NYPD blue.
I agree the Shield was excellent too.
I would also put The Wire and Homicide in that group
Hill Street Blues. The Wire, Homicide: Life In the Streets. I never saw The Shield.
@@shawnuelThe Shield is really good.
@@aggressiveattitudeera887 And it stars “The Commish!”
Yeah, nah, District Attorney would never want me on the jury of a case like this. Not Guilty! ADA: but he admits to murdering the guy. We have the murder weapon. His finger prints are on it. We have witnesses and CC video. Me: Not guilty.
Yeah, if that went to trial, I’d definitely make it a hung jury. If I’m the cop taking that interview, the tape is getting lost and he’s out the door and told to keep his mouth shut.
No DA in the world would take this to trial. They would plead him out..
@@claymac7895- Or it would fall under jury nullification. The jury would conclude he did it, and find him not guilty anyway. It might not happen often, but it happens.
If you did that you would be acting against the law and against your oath. You are a true American. I appreciate you
@@partybusexperiance3289 Hmmm. Don't care about the law, most of which is just silly rules made up by people wanted to boss other people around. An oath though. I take those seriously. That's your word. I'd have to tell the judge and ADA during jury selection I wouldn't be able to convict this guy. I've never served on a jury... I have to see exactly what's involved in the oath.
In the words of Chris Rock (more or less): I'm not saying I'd have done it, but I understand
Andy “so we are going to write this one up as your dad came at you with a knife and you stabbed him in self-defense”
Exactly. By the time Andy "helps" him with his statement, this guy is going to look like a hero (which he really is). Andy will then talk to the DA and this guy is home by dinner time.
Yes
This is why we can't permit cops to do exactly that. They can be played, and lied to, and they can get in the habit of "tuning a guy up" or "helping someone confince the judge of what really happened", and the fiction sets guilty people free and innocent people to jail. This old show showed that, and showed Andy doing just that to people who swayed him one way or the other. But it's not his job, and not his call. It's what judges and especially juries are for, but they can't make the right decisions if they don't get the facts.
Two wrongs don't make a right. James 4:11 - 12. No excuse for what the father did but the son could have called the police and reported him.
For all Andy’s faults he was a genuinely good man. He has a lot of traits in a human being that I respect
Incredible scene.
So, when your father tripped on that tray he had the knife in his hand? this was a terrible accident you couldn't have possibly have prevented son, try not to let it screw you up, you don't wanna be missing any sleep or even a day of work but if you're free tonight me and a couple of guys are going to watch the game at a bar down the street and it's my turn to buy, I no longer partake so I'll even drive you home when we're done.
Good man
Damn good man
This guy did the right thing
Even if he went to prison, he'd probably be left alone.
He should have gone along with the sister's wishes.
His Father was his hero. He couldn't believe his Father was capable of that sick shit.
Yep. His dad committed suicide.
So, the guy tripped and fell on a knife?
I got a stupid question. Tell me this guy didn’t go to jail. That Andy and Clarke let it slide
I just reviewed the scene and it's good enough that I will post it when we get to Season 12 soon. It was left ambiguous, but implied that the murder charge be knocked down to manslaughter and he would only do a small amount of time.
Hey it's voice actor JB Blanc he is the voice of Dojima in Persona 4
I used to watch this with my old man but don't really remember anything. Sense Andy always broke the law by beating people up and getting confessions after they asked for a lawyer (which by law that confession can't be used in court) did Andy ever fix a statement and let someone go? This guy deserved to have them write this off as a case of self defense. Lie and say the dad attacked him when he confronted him. He isn't a danger to society and obviously not a vigilante. He did the right thing and killed a pedophile who prayed on his own family.
Hero
Folks ,there are very few real police that have nerves of steel and wit like this police character on this show!
This actor is a true public servant because he is not political correctness as we see today!
A good lawyer will get an acquittal for him. He did the right thing!!!
maybe in texas, and maybe in the middle of the act, but they should let him free
The torment of knowing you took your father's life juxtaposed with it being a righteous act of vengeance and justice would call it case closed timed served. Already on mental arrest so to speak for the rest of his life...Send him home and buy him a drink if you see him 🍻
How would Stabler and Benson react to this?
Or even Hank Voight
Benson would struggle internally about how to feel and Stabler would give the guy a High Five
Hank would give this guy a walk
NYPD Blue handled sexual abuse cases as well, if not better than L&O: SVU....
For the rest of his life, he will regret that he didn't do that to his old man when he was a kid.
Nope. No way. Not guilty 💯.
Wow. What would you do in a case like that?
I would have taken my father into the police station and made him stand in a garbage can.
So his character did some justice. After the fact.
Sipowicz is ready to give him a pass...
I believe that’s called a community service killing.
Sounds like a case for Nullification if there ever was one . I can be open minded about crimes that are simple property crimes but this class ...... personal crimes are a WHOLE 'nother ball game . Obviously there are those who will not like my opinion that we should have a spot picked out behind the local courthouse so this garbage case will get resolved within two minutes and be over and done with but if they can have their opinion then I can have mine . NO reason to put children through a courtroom over this and recidivism is a word that should NEVER appear in connection with a case like this .
This guy, deciding HE knows what's best and goes against his sister's wishes and look what happens.
In this case, Idk if i could have kept to the sister's wishes either
Holy Fuck
thats what youre supposed to do to rippers, you provide the proper punishment for their actions, because god knows the legal system doesnt. its one of the best ways to entertain yourself while locked up.
No crime is as heinous as pedophilia, scarring the innocent. JB Blanc was superb as the vengeful son. Both of them would have given him a walk. Justifiable homicide, anyone?
What about murder?
Any chance of the clip with this guys sister after the statement? Pwetty Pwease!? :)
were going thru season 12 now currently episode 5 so we will get to episode 14 in a few weeks thanks
@@justanotherdrunk Yeeah buddy!
That the man took this action could be held to his credit. But he also allowed his niece to be abused through his willful blindness to his father's true nature. He acted to assuage his own guilt. He deserves sympathy, but he's no hero.
He's not, the point is that it's almost impossible to imagine someone you know and love doing something like that
Exactly. Killing 100 rapists won't give his niece back the life she deserved that was stolen. Forever.
Wrenching.