The REAL Reason The Lumix GH6 Might Be A FLOP
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To clarify,
Cinema enthusiasts and actual "filmmakers" WILL still buy this camera, people who are looking for a reliable B-camera WILL buy this camera. It's also GREAT!
I ultimately feel as tho more than ever, people have just grown to love full frame, autofocus, and ease of use. How do you feel tho?
You summarized my thoughts perfectly. Had they nailed the autofocus it would be a different story. I started on GH2 and have used many other Panasonic bodies. Ultimately I switched over to Sony for reliable autofocus. I have the A7sIII and FX3 and every time I shoot with them I love them more. There's no way I'd go backwards.
it's okay. are you your choice of camera now? is it when your video is shot with the gh6?
Definitely disagree with the full frame and autofocus. But I'm coming from a cinema world mainly television and short films. Full manual is the best because there's 100% control. Full frame is cool, but it's not going to outright kill off super 35 in cinema.
Gh6 and other panasonic cameras are by far the most user friendly experiences in the camera world. From features to ergonomics to ui design they reign as king. They have subpar, but still usable af as their one and only weakness. As for full frame? I see no benefit to it whatsoever unless you shoot in absurdly low light or high contrast. Full frame is demonstrably inferior when using long lenses in terms of weight, cost,reach, and pixels on subject. Using short lenses it's largest benefit is shallower dof and better low light capabilities. But this is just hair splitting because the majority of the human population feels like their iPhone takes amazing lowlight photos and equally feels m43 and ff do too. The image quality from small sensors has already reached the threshold that the populace cares about.
Ultimately with ff you get a tool that is better in a few specific ways, worse in others, and that nobody will every really appreciate the enhanced quality from.
Too little too late! Who's investing in that M43 ecosystem and what would be the incentive vs Canon or Sony? You can't tell me that this is superior in anyway to the a7siii/fx3. And canon is about to drop the ULTIMATE hybrid camera of all time. It's pretty hard to leave FF, alien AF, canon color, 8k60 (R5C) or super low light 4k 120(A7S3), internal RAW, 45MP photos, and more; for...... what exactly? It's a flop. Beautiful though and the video you shot with it was immaculate. I'm sure ppl will still buy it here and there but it was a real missed opportunity.
Before watching: I can tell you I’ve been shooting solely on MFT since 2019 and only in 2021 did I finally “go back” to full frame in getting the Canon R6. Obviously only for the autofocus. When you’re well adjusted with your craft and creativity, exactly what you use doesn’t matter as much. I’ve had better results shooting with my Z-Cam and GH5 than my R6 because even though the autofocus works I feel like my GH5 is easier to get a good look with, it feels better in my hand, and shoots unlimited video / doesn’t overheat. Who cares about full frame anymore? Sure if I had unlimited funds I’d ONLY own full frame. But that isn’t yet the case. Idk maybe I’ve used MFT so long im just more comfortable with it but I’ve owned everything from ab a7s ii, a7 iii, Gh5, R6, Z cam and the MFT cameras have been my favorites and easiest for me to get my final look. Canon is technically “easier”. But i just don’t have that same experience as everyone else raving about it. And I’ve owned the camera for a year now.
We also rock with the zcam and gh5. gh6 is looking nice tho!
I concur. You perfectly laid it.
Facts!!!!! I’m struggling in our transition to Sony full frame… it’s just not the same experience
Never been a big fan of full frame, I like to travel with a few different lenses and the size of full frame lenses is a deal breaker for me.
the samyang 1.8 Prime's for the Sony e-mount are super small, zoom lenses are a different story. I got a really good deal on a bunch of samyang lenses that pushed me to swap to the Sony ecosystem
I agree, nice to have a small 12-35 f2.8.
Or even better the 10-25mm f1.7 replacing several prime lenses for me
i think sigma 28-70 plus s5 is good setup to travel
@@carriagel8773 yeah definitely a good option. I feel like they both have their place. S5 is a great little camera but doesn’t do what the GH6 does for video
@@carriagel8773 and it creates a look and low light abilities better than most mft primes at every vocal range. this is what I think a lot of mft users forget, it not only replaces the 12-35 2.8 but also mft primes. longer zooms are a different story.
I think a bigger treat to the GH6 is Panasonic's own S5
100% this
Interesting that you say that because I was thinking Panasonic probably will not release any more feature improvements for the S5 now to protect their new trophy GH6. We shall see though.
@@baihu4u they updated the S5 to compete with their own S1H. Much like Sony, Panasonic has no issue adding pro features to the lower models. The S5 doesn't even need new features to compete with the GH6.
Combination of 4 channel audio at 24 bit plus 7.5 stops of image stabilization makes this camera a no brainer. People can have simple if they want it. I appreciate features. If you are used to shooting on Panasonic like myself, autofocus is just one of the features I dont use unless the situation is perfect. If you are heavily invested in micro 4/3 glass like myself this camera is gonna be ANOTHER workhorse. Peace and like your work, thanks.
GH6 is an amazing production camera. Can see plenty of prod cos going for this especially as Panasonic are noted for their reliability and useability. The fact you will be able to just slap an SSD on it and record almost 6k and 17:9 in Pro res with an effective gate of something close to super 35 is huge.
Independent Budget Filmmakers wet dream…
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I think the GH6 appeals to the pure filmmakers, what I mean by that is, filmmakers with aspirations beyond the youtube landscape, people who are NOT merely one-man-bands, pointing cameras at themselves…
The whole appeal of FF, stems from photographers transitioning into videographers thinking that is filmmaking. Which is so far from the truth. Concepts like, Shallow depth of Field, is a photographers obsession that is overrated in filmmaking. Used to capture a specific images or scenes frozen in time, which is practically antithetical to filmmaking, which records moments in time that could last from seconds to hours. Not to mention, in most cases, a dynamic scene constantly in motion…
Traditional film cameras are not High Megapixel sensors, which is why they never use to ever mention it as a specification. They were Hi-Resolution, which is why the Sony A7SIII is still a 12mp camera and so is the GH5S. They achieve 4K very well and are fit for purpose. When people decry a lack of megapixels for video cameras, you can immediately write them off as ignorant, clueless, or just plain naive…
Super35 was and still is pretty much the cinematic standard, which for those you playing the home version, is basically APS-C equivalent. Bokeh the complementary effect of Shallow Depth of Field, again overrated and maybe necessary when used sparingly for dramatic affect. Which brings up the subject of AF. Crucial for cinematography on big budget projects, as time is money and millions are at stake. To be fair, the shot schedules and scenes are generally set, so one can pre plan so to speak…
So is AF useful to the run and gun or documentary style filmmaker, fair play, valid point. But also neither crucial nor entirely necessary. Literally, a stylistic approach, or workflow choice. TH-camrs, are a different animal and a specific case scenario. Then there is the hybrid being categorized under Solo TH-camr/Filmmaker, someone not strictly relegated to filming oneself in room/ studio space/ basement, may shoot events, or aspire to film production projects.
Now, addressing the topic in hand. The improvements to AF have advanced and is relative. Canon, Sony, Nikon, Fuji, Pentax, Sigma, OM/ Olympus, and Panasonic, all have excelled from six years ago, with the exception of Blackmagic. I also do not feel people are trying to fake FF aesthetics with Cropped Sensors (6:13). The statement prior (4:50) What is beyond and who has veered is subjective…
So NO, I don’t think the Canon EOS R6 will be the ultimate demise of the Panasonic Lumix GH6. I have used the R6 and it overheated constantly. It got to the point where after twenty minutes of filming, we had stop for ten minutes to allow for cooling down.
The GH6 will not flop, people who are itching for something new will purchase, and some will always like shiny new things. It’s main problem lies in those who feel the GH5 already is perfect, and it simply does what is needed. The GH5 suffered somewhat from those who felt the GH4 was adequate. Even those who felt similarly about the GH3…
In conclusion:(Quote paraphrased)
All one really needs to take a great photo or capture an amazing scene, is a camera…
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Phenomenally explained. Kudos.
problem is the gh6 is than competing with the Blackmagic pocket 6k pro. and the blackmagic pocket 6k pro has inbuilt nd filters, raw recording, super 35mm image sensor.
@@legendp2011 The inbuilt ND is a nice touch if you'd like it; however, raw recording is something we are seeing next year and is confirmed. Super 35 is nice on the BM but 0 IBS unless your lens does the work for you... Idk I really like both cameras lol.
The best comments i have ever seen on You Tube regarding the situation right now with videography. Point 1: Bokeh is for photographers, most Cinematographers do not care. Point 2 film cameras are all Super35 which is same as APS-C in photography. Point 3: AF is only needed most for one man crew doing run and gun for movies that are artesticaly made not important. Point 4: Most You Tubers that is doing profeesional video work are doing a run and gun style of video wanting Cinema look
Great video, but will have to disagree! Not being able to use C1-C2-C3 for video on the R6 it would so much more difficult to work with I think. Yes the GH6 seems to have a loooot more features so that's why it seems more difficult to handle, but once you set it up, it's done! You can operate it with your eyes closed, like all Lumix cameras. Own both Canon and Lumix cameras. And the colors of the Lumix cameras don't get enough credit I think! Cheers again for the video!
The GH5II has C1/ C2/ C3/ C4 (C4-1/C4-2/C4-3). Not to mention the GH5 also has C3 (C3-1/C3-2/C3-3) too…
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I been a Panasonic fan boy since YC put me on the whole gh4 and gh5 days…but now days a cinema enthusiasm might be of with black magic 6k who shoot raw…😞…we could all agree we all grew pass the gh series …
I be forgetting about blackmagic, they also have great affordable options. It's a great time to be a filmmaker man.
Interesting YC. I personally think it is an old school and new school type of thing. Not all content creators are on You Tube and Social media. I have been working in Swedish Broadcast for just over thirty years and started my career as a stills photographer in 1983. So even though I have worked week in week out with large expensive and specialised broadcast and cinema cameras, I love shedding the load of weight and expense for my own personal gear yet I want to film in the way that has become part of my DNA. So smaller hybrid cameras for personal work with great video tools have been my priority way before mirrorless was even a thing. Many of my colleagues are way more conservative than me and cannot understand why I bother with cameras like the GH5/6 and my new Nikon Z9 system because for them a video camera is nothing below a cinema camera because in our industry we need gear that meets certain industry standards that helps us get work or we know how to use if hired as part of a crew or is readily available at rental houses around the world. The modern day content creator on the other hand is usually the producer of his/her production, so they have a completely different freedom possibility when it comes to equipment choices and workflows that suit themselves. So yes, if some have not learned the true skill of manual focussing or don’t need to use a specific codec and specialised video tools I would absolutely agree that the R6 would be easier to use but the old school would definitely consider the GH6 as a camera closer to what they prefer to shoot with. If FLOP means the GH6 not enough to attract the new school crowd, I think you are correct but even as a Z9 owner, I immediately preordered the GH6 because it will be a hit with me and many other old schoolers like myself! 🙏🏾
I noticed the other day that the Canon image, out of the box, was more filmic than most other cameras.
The features + the price is just an unbeatable combo, the value you get with the GH6 is crazy.
Not really if you look at Fuji XT-4, it gives you 10 bit and all the video specs you could want, but it aint a cinema camera, GH6 is more cinema oriented, quite frankly I doubt 99% of people here shoot movies, so XT-4 or even just a GH5 II would make more sense, cheaper cameras, all the video features you could want, photography, great lenses, and the XT-4 has pretty decent F2.8 zoom for half the price of the F1.7 zoom you can get for Panny cameras.
@@SMGJohn Actually, if you talk to pro photographers, most will tell you they have moved to video and hybrid work for the last decade. The number of pro STILL photogs today is far fewer, and not enough to keep these cameras in production. It is the fact that the GH6 is so video-centric that makes it so valuable in today's market.
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That is true, but for hybrid work, Panny S5, XT-4 or a A7III/A7IV is much better than GH6 unless you love MFT lenses then sure.
First, let me thank you for making a compelling argument and some great points i have not heard in other GH6 videos. I’m looking at GH6 for several reasons. 1) MFT is format i’ve settled on 2) Price and size of lenses available 3) weather sealing 4) features - i’ve owned several Full frame Canon cameras and Canon broke my heart too severely to ever go back…Canon puts in just enough new features to make a camera interesting, but they don’t ever wow you like Panasonic.
I think the GH6 is great. But they all are great now as stated. I think we are now far removed from the times when a camera can separate us as creators. A few years ago if you had a GH4, a viewer can really tell. 4k was crisp. Now everything is "crisp". So now comes a new time that demands actual creativity. Coming around full circle back to mind-development.
THIS
@@YCImaging exactly
Anyway TH-cam compression kills the quality so we should not matter ;-)
@@inspirefpv2383 I actually don't think it "kills it" I mean if that were true MKBHDs uploads wouldn't look as good as they do, but they do. (and we can't say it's his 8k // downsamples, because even when he upload footage shot from smartphones it looks just as good)
@@STGFilmmakers smartphones shoot in 8K too though.
I felt this way when the rumor specs were out but when I finally saw a good review from AndyAx It just my whole mind... the GH6 has many more features that hasn't unlocked yet like being able to record on an SSD via USB. Thats big. And the fact you can record Apple prores in 5.7k directly, that is also a big deal... 120fps HFR... and many more features unlocking through firmware soon..
The problem is anyone who cares about recording 5.7k prores also would be the type of person who wouldn't mind using an external monitor. It's really targetting a niche that doesn't exist. Panasonic needed to do better here. The S5 + a monitor is a better value in almost every use case.
@@jonniecandito181 they said this about the GH5…
@@jonniecandito181 I exist, and I use to rock a GH4, then GH5, and now a GH5II…
I am the type of person who would be interested. But, I do not need the GH6, because the GH5II is just too incredibly capable, not to mention cheaper, and I already own a NinjaV. Plus I don’t have an overwhelming need for 4K120p 422 10 bit…
GH6 is simply above the average persons needs or basic comprehension. As the video suggests, most people just want an ILC that is basically a point and shoot. iPhones and smartphones in general make up 95% if not more of TH-cam videos, or any video online…
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@@jonniecandito181 me...and me....the ninja v with my current camera is too heavy so a gimball can't happen...yea I'm weak af...i swear its like the weight of a small child lol....I'm that 'nonexistent' market....
A teeny, tiny sensor camera with unreliable autofocus, in a body that's as large as a full-frame camera, in 2022? Seems like a recipe for disaster.
Yeah at this point with the forced crops and the record limits and the overheating and reliability and cheapness of every other camera company out there outside of their like 3000-4000+ flagships I just cant trust them. Sure the GH series AF is unreliable but every other company in every other metric is LESS reliable when it comes to the things I mentioned, and for way more money. These new canons are some fisher price toys compared to the S1h or even the budget S5 and even the high quality L series glass for RF is small light and plasticy.
It's by no means a bad camera, because the GH5 is still a great camera. It just adds some more bell's and whistles to an already great camera. But I share the same sentiment, at this point there's so many great affordable full frame cameras with smaller and lighter bodies than the GH6 even. I think it's fine that Panasonic released one more GH camera but I wouldn't grab one until it's $1500 used in 3-4 years. For now I'm more than happy with the Lumix S5 and the Sony A7iv. You'd be happy with any camera you'd buy from the last couple years. If you can't get a cinema looking image from a modern mirrorless camera then you're the problem. It's not the sensor.
Stuff like ProRes etc... it's fine but if I'm shooting ProRes I'm on a shoot the fully requires that workflow which means I'm rigging that camera up... so at that point I'd rather just throw a Blackmagic 12G SDI on the S5 and shoot BRAW in FF 5.7K. If you're heavily invested in MFT... sure the GH6 will probably tick your boxes but I think a lot of those users already moved on to other systems or Panasonic's S line.
Great take
@@the180degreerule3 I'll never get rid of it. its been so clutch to have around for BTS, extra b-roll, crash cam etc. its the one staple camera I can never seem to let go of.
I've made a living shooting on the GH5 since 2017. What ever fits the user and your workflow the best is what to go with! I prefer a lightweight and quick setup. Having the ability to use small MFT lenses, S35 , Full Frame , and Anamorphic is awesome. So many attractive option in the market these days. I personally don't need AF or Full Frame. Although it would be nice to have, and considering making the switch. But is just having those two options would cost around $10k of new bodies and lenses. So really it's just more depth of field and low light from the sensor. I rarely need to shoot using 1600 iso so just having the option to shoot at 2000iso with DR boost I don't think low light is an issue anymore with the GH6. I would love to try out the Sirui Anamorphics and 2x anamorphics on there!
What are your go to lenses, and what do you use for low light when needed…?
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@@superzero4250 Sigma 18-35 f1.8 with Metabones Speed booster, Laowa 7.5 f2 for wide, Sigma 50-100 f1.8, Tamron 70-200 f2.8. Sirui 24, 35, 50.
As a BMPCC4K owner, I love the image that it produced. Braw is amazing. But, trying to use it in a one man band situation is absolutely frustrating. Ease of use will certainly factor into my next purchase.
Same, I’m looking for a hybrid with some good auto focus to throw on a gimble, and to just take photos because I don’t have a photo camera at all.
Honestly, I don’t think I’ll ever understand the obsession with sensor size. Some of the best cinematic videos I’ve ever seen have been from tiny M4/3 sensors, and at no point would I ever think “wow if this was on a bigger sensor it would look so much better.”
The GH6 is insane in my opinion. $2200 for options like this, in a tiny little setup you can run and gun with??? You kidding me? I’ve figured out cameras much harder than this, and if you’re spending thousands, you should have zero qualms with spending some time learning how to use your tools. This camera has me exceptionally excited.
Totally agree!!
This is very helpful. I shoot "run and gun" style for my company. I am not a full time videographer (actually, I am a former TV producer but left the industry in 1983 to practice law). We do some testimonials from our customers for marketing purposes. Usually, we have very little time to do the interviews, and we simply don't have the budget or the time to use more sophisticated cinema cameras. I have had great results with Sony, Canon and Panasonic, but when you are in a pinch, the auto features really help. Thank you so much for your review.
As a Panasonic shooter I do think this camera is amazing. I think it should probably have come out at the same time as a refreshed S1H so that all their bases were covered. I have always believed Panasonic's DFD system works in principal and that the system though better than phase detect would not work as well because of processing constraints in their cameras. As processing power gets better, so will DFD. In the mean time, it is hard to justify going with Panasonic for ease of use, though I will always be grateful to my DVX200 for teaching me how to shoot. The ultimate love/hate camera. For ease of use, I am still rockin the G85 and other than autofocus problems, for me, it is still the best 'easy' camera to learn and use. Anyway, you are amazing, I have learned alot from you, kinda wish you could do this forever. Are you going to review the Aputure LS 1200d Pro?
One thing I disagree with is that statement that "cameras are getting cheaper and cheaper for what you get". No way. I started photography in 2005 and cameras at the mid/high end have become WAY more expensive over the past 5 years especially (and the lenses too, especially for Canon).
I paid about $4000 cdn for a brand new, state of the art 1D MkIII when it was released. Now, I can't even get a 5D equivalent (R5) for that price (costs $5500 cdn). A 1 series body or equivalent is now around $8000 cdn.
And no, you when it comes to electronics, you can't compare new features a decade later to something from the past. If that was the case, a high end computer from 2000 would still cost $2000 and a high end computer today would cost $30,000. You have to compare the range of the model in a lineup (with SLIGHT inflation). A 1 series camera 10-15 years ago is still a 1 series camera today. A mid range camera (5D, 6D) is still a mid range camera today (R5, R6). Prices have increased way beyond inflation, and lens prices have almost doubled in the past 10 years.
You touched on what is the trending topic of todays camera for content creators yes i agree with that.
Gh6 falls more for sure into the cinemagraphy where you are in control of everything. One key feature you and ryan arent exploring is the anamorphic side where this cam really shines. Anamorphic is becoming the new trend for todays consumer pros vs hollywood for obvious reaaons.
I tested out the r6 n mehh lol i perfer the R with an atomos. I own the r5 for stills n hate it for video.
Af only uses digital lens you lose out on character not using certain lens like a leica r.
At the end of the day af will only help in the begginning but when your ready to jump onto real cine cams its only mf.
Also pro res internal is what people should be using if not using a raw codec
I definitely do wanna try anamorphic! I also 100% agree about filming on the R6, I ONLY enjoy it when i'm filming myself. Any ACTUAL project where i'm behind the camera, i'm just not gonna choose that.
@@YCImaging you and ryan would love it. You guys want the next level of video and you guys love lights so its a plus. Gh6 small form factor will hlp alot.
I'm a Brazilian who left Sony Full-frame to enter the m/43 world, because the textures of Sony vs Panasonic are very very different, let's say it looks a lot like Black magic, in GH6 have:
Internal Anamorphic 5.7k 60fps, ProRes, MOV and MP4, we have three Codec options, we have the best 5-axis stabilizer on the audiovisual market, we have waveform, timecode, two-step articulated screen
Professional features that a cinema camera has, we even have open gate, and speaking of image texture, there is no way to compare it with other cameras of the same value, several shortcut buttons and recordings
Dynamic range boost, 300fps, internal cooler, that Sony and Canon doesn't have, external SSD recording, if I'm going to talk about all the benefits I'll lose hours here, I just think we lost in AF and full-frame only.
I have a GH5 & don't think I've ever used the Autofocus setting! LOL! I think pulling focus is the best part of shooting, especially when you have no choice with manual lenses!
i think you make valid points but you got your cameras switched. You can’t just pick up a canon or a sony and “just film” becuase they need a gimbal - they need an external recorder to get prores and they need expensive, heavy glass to cover that full frame.
if you want simplicity, turn the dial to Program mode. It’s not complicated.
I thibk you dont get excited anymore because, unlike before, you have access to whatever camera you want, so tgis budget thing doesnt float your boat.
the biggest win of the GH6 over the others is it’s 5.8K open gate mode with 4:3 aspect. It’s perfect for shooting hybrid aspect ratios for using the same footage in both 16:9 and square targets. And you can record all that data to an sd card because HEVC.
That is a motherfucking GAME CHANGER. If that doesn’t excite you, then why are you even doing this?
Among other reasons. I took delivery of my GH6 on 3/14/22. Great camera in all regards except customer service. I purchased it under a promo program "Free Gift for GH6 Early Adopters". This offer is for a free 128GB Lexar CFexpress memory card. My problem is after registering the GH6 as a LPS member I am unable to complete the registration process because there is no option to continue to the final steps. I emailed them numerous times with only an automated response.
yeah, imagine buying a +2000$ m43 camera with no AF in 2022 LMAO
The autofocus does work it's just slower
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Let me start with, I am not a filmmaker or cinematographer, I'm a stills photographer. I shoot street, reportage, photojournalism, portraiture, and fine art. When I look at gear for my kit, video functionality and autofocus are not my top decision-making variables. That said, I'm a former MFT shooter. I've shot both Panasonic LUMIX and Olympus OM cameras. However, I preferred the LUMIX line of cameras and the Olympus line of lenses.
Eventually, I transitioned from MFT to Fujifilm APS-C and Fujifilm along with Leica and the LUMIX S5 makes up my kit today. I primarily shoot manual focus M mount lenses because I like the control and I can replicate my film camera shooting experience as well. I said all of that to say, I bought the S5 because it's full-frame and because eventually, I will add video to my catalog of services for my clients.
To me, as long as the S5 exists, the GH6 makes no sense as a new purchase. I think Panasonic created that camera 2 years too late and that it was created for diehard MFT LUMIX users looking for something that will allow them to utilse their existing MFT lens collection. If you're adept at what you do as a photographer or videography, most cameras today can do pretty much anything it's ultimately all about your ability to use those features on your camera to achieve the result you desire.
I think the MFT ecosystem will eventually go away when you consider the costs of good full-frame cameras from Canon, Nikon, Sony, and LUMIX. If I were Panasonic and OM Systems (formally Olympus) I would stop making DSLR-styled cameras and focus on street photography, photojournalism, and the reportage space. Make digital rangefinder-style cameras that capitalise off the plethora of MFT lenses already in the market and go after Leica and Fujifilm users.
There's something to be said about having a light kit on the streets. The GH6 is a BIG camera, especially once you add the hand-grip and other accessories. It goes against the original philosophy of MFT in the first place, which was to make lightweight cameras and lenses that can still produce quality imagines and video. The GH6 is a departure from that philosophy. So, imagine updates to the LUMXI GX9 and the Olympus Pen F. They would kill it people who carry cameras gear for hours on end. As for the film-making community, there are better options out there in the full-frame space and the LUMIX S5 is one of them.
We're two different people with different needs, but I really disagree (I should note that I don't have a GH6, but I do have an R6 and a GH5). As far as ease of use, it's wayyy easier for me to use my Lumix.
I can map custom video presets to the wheel. I can switch between 4k 24, 4k 60, 1080p 120, or whatever setting I want with one click. No menus whatsoever. -Not a feature on the R6
Unlimited record time. -Not a feature on the R6
Internal ProRes. -Not a Feature on the R6
5.7k. -Not a feature on the R6
Internal cooling and no overheating anxieties. -Not a feature on the R6.
The R6 isn’t a complete professional video camera out of the box, I wouldn't have ever even consider owning an R6 without a Ninja V, witch costs another grand with the necessary accessories.
I can hold a GH6 in my hands and have all of those features I listed. There is certainly a place for such a compact beast in the market, and I doubt it will flop.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
If you want ease of use, just set some parameters and let the camera do all the work.
And if you want shallow depth of field, there's no need to switch to full frame. The PanaLeica 10-25mm f1.7 that I own is a great lens for shooting wide open, and so is the 25-50mm f1.7, which I hope to buy anytime soon.
Besides that, a MAJOR advantage over full frame is the relative compactness of the Micro Four Thirds (MFT) system. My three camera bodies and a total of six lenses and my laptop fit in a backpack that weighs 18 pounds and meets cabin luggage requirements. So I can take my gear anywhere I want, without paying hefty fees or being worried about the careless luggage handlers.
All in all, I have no worries that the GH6 will be a flop. On the contrary!
Watch this camera crash in value like the Fujifilm X-H1 lol 😆. The price is outrages! They are not only competitive with themselves but also with entry full frame cameras like the Z5 and RP. Another prime example of not buying cameras at release oh wait I forget....You'll probably wait until 6 months until it is in stock lmao. They are really playing with us now and this is definitely reminds of the scam that APS Film! This is exactly why camera manufacturers have lost 8 perfect of market share in the past two years. The price point too have was around $1,500.
Both of the cameras are going to do the exact same thing “Capture a moment” YCimaging can we get your feelings on what just happened in Ukraine?
I honestly just consider the gh series of cameras as direct competitors to black magic cameras I’ve never imagined them as photography first or even photography being half as good as video on gh5 or even the 6 now… it’s more a 80-20 division so I don’t really expect it to give me what a r6 or a7iv can do as far as hybrid functionality and reliability. I see it as I’d rather have a gh5 or 6 over a blackmagic but that’s all
For that prize you can get a Lumix S5 + a lens instead of just the GH6 body only
This is a great point.
With due respect that was very boring seeing the same phrase repeated over and over again. Theses cameras are so different. The R6 for example is for people who can afford waiting until it has cooled down after overheating. YMMV.
I don't know about what other people need, but the Gh6 will be one of the few cameras that can do what I need it to do. I'm attaching it to the ronin S2 gimbal and controlling it with a cell phone or manually for some unique never before seen macro dental footage. The wave forms, bright monitor, light affordable lenses and depth of field don't hurt one bit. This camera is worth more to me than a suped up canon R5, especially an R6, and I'm going to prove it in the footage that I produce; Guaranteed!
I Love your comments Vernon Smith...they are just a tool it's you that brings out the best in that Camera...that's why I appreciate your comment.
Basically what your telling me from this comment is that 1. Your either already invested into the micro 4/3 system or 2. You don’t own a A7siii /R5 the gh6 is a great camera don’t get me wrong but everything YC said In this video was 100% correct as well tho
@@QuadzHeadshot no doubt he was 100 percent right. It depends on what people want. It's just a tool that helps get the job done. I have Sony, canon, and Panasonic. Super 35, full frame and micro 4 3rds. I even love shooting with a cell phone when needed. Whatever it takes to get the tool for the job. Can't wait for the ronin 4D to get more glass
@@toofy7253 well said !
isn't the Canon R5 or R6 still have overheating and/or time recording limits ? If yes, nogo for me, I need to be able to record for 2H+ without having to let it cool down for half an hour
GH5 still the King and GH6 opens more doors for creativity if you film in MANUALLY. I totally disagree with you! I would never hire videographers that uses auto-focus in mind. Period! There is a HUGE difference in quality vs. quantity. Auto-focus feel like a robot is controlling the camera and the feel of the moving images looks ordinary. With manually controlling the camera the variables are endless and the quality and feel of end product is night and day. The creative part is totally GONE with auto-focus. Same thing is driving a auto-card vs. manual, you can see and feel the difference. It is like an AI creating edit choices and creating images from nothing, there is no feeling there. You are using a code that was embedded into the camera by a select people and you will be using their taste every time. It is like getting married to one single woman. Later on you know the taste and feeling no matter is day or night. hahahah! B-Creative and B-Original! You your GH6 to the max!
there is a lot of fanboism around and many actively boo other cams just because, setting a mood.
the gh6 is not my use case, but i think as a tool it gives more than other tools for cinema, especially if you go anamorphic or are on a budget. the tiktokers use phones, youtubers are sony fanboys, so maybe there is no large room for it. i have sony ff, oly and pana, and i like all, so may the chips fall where they do.
Gh6 will be a succes. I bought the gh5 and i will buy this one. Lumix users are very loyal because they know how good those cameras are.
It's funny I was just talking about this the other day. I have built my channel around Panasonic camera'a starting with the GH5 and now the S5. After the GH6 spec's leaked a few days ago I was no longer excited about the camera. I may still buy it because I have so many MFT lenses and for content but for the simple fact that they didnt move to a whole new AF system I don't really see a reason to give up my Lumix S5.
As a teacher, I have to agree with you. Getting my students to want to learn manual control of everything is hard. They just want it to be an easy process to create content. Only those who want that extra control of every details are willing to deal with cameras like the GH6. Even I don’t want to deal with all the manual stuff when doing vlogs to document me teaching and enjoying my time with my students. I guess what I’m saying here is that I want the recording process to be easy so that I can focus on enjoying the moments. :)
Calling yourself a 'filmmaker' and either rely on autofocus and needing to have full frame is laughable to me :)
I shoot Canon for stills and the GH5 for video. This is the first time I've seen this comparison on ease of use. With the GH5, once you set the shutter angle to 180 degrees, the only settings you will have to change are your aperture, color profile, and recording format. You don't have to go into any menus for this.
With Canon and Sony, you have to change your shutter speed each time you change frame-rate (4K 60p to 1/120 Shutter Speed), (4K30p to 1/60 Shutter Speed), (120P to 1/240 Shutter Speed).
I would argue that having shutter angle alone in the GH6 can save operators way more time than Sony and Canon Mirrorless bodies.
Thats a good point. It would be a hassle not having the 180 degree setting on my GH5!
I noticed that too recently when using a friend’s camera. I’m heavily invested in m4/3 cameras and lenses so I think I’ll stay here for a while
@@MrFruitstick Yep!
@@DEADIKATED even with the speedbooster, you are still in great hands.
i shoot ff Sony & canon so all of these shooting formats are just a saved custom dial away! so not much of a hassle imho as an operator anyway,
Interesting perspective! Thanks for being honest about your thoughts!
Always!
@@YCImaging So I have to ask.. .have you run into any overheating issues with the R6 on a shoot?
I remember you bringing up “ease of use” in the past before. That definitely still plays a factor for todays consumer. Especially with vertical content literally breaking the internet lol
Yeah for sure!
This was so weird. I got both the GH6 and the R6 but the Canon is such a pain to use. Everything feels placed in the wrong position. The menus are so difficult to access and I cannot agree with your claim that it is a simple camera to use. No way! Take a look at Panasonic everything is designed with the photographer and videographer in mind. And both cameras fails with autofocus just in different ways. I rarely use the R6 because of these reasons and then we haven’t even spoken about weight.
When you move away from a style of creating to something that requires less work its hard to go back the old way. Autofocus for example...once you start using autofocus for greater than 50% of what you do...its hard to " want " to use if for the other less than 50%.
I feel like Panasonic jumped the shark a bit and pumped out tons of features that are useful, but not the primary concern of most of their customer base. Hopefully photographers will be more lucky when the G9 replacement comes out, otherwise everyone is going to jump ship. OM-1 looks like a good choice for micro 4/3 users. Too bad none of my Panasonic glass works as well as Olympic glass even though the mounts are shared. So if I wanted to switch I still have to sell all my lenses in a quickly depreciating market.
It's not that the GH6 is bad, it's just incredibly niche. I would like a camera that can shoot 4K60 10-bit with a decent bitrate, good tracking autofocus, and more computational photography features and better phone integration. Also true raw would be great for people who do deep space astrophotography.
The GH6 is all abut the fluff and has a worse sensor than the GH5/GH5M2/OM-1.
If the GH6 had a real reliable autofocus I would have purchased it in a heartbeat even though it's M43. That's how many good things Panasonic implemented into this thing. But everyone I work for wants super complex gimbal shots even when I'm just a one man crew. Autofocus is the only way to pull this off without having to waste everyone's time doing multiple takes so I can nail the movement and focus. I've had a Panasonic camera since the DVX100b and I've loved all of them, but this is the first time where I feel I'll have to invest in another company soon unless they start taking autofocus more seriously.
What are you shooting with now..?
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@@superzero4250 I still have my S1H and GH5s so I haven't made any switch yet (I won't anytime soon). The company I work for has an A7S3, so I use that on a gimbal and my S1H lives on a tripod with a monitor with my GH5s as a backup camera.
Everyone wants ease of use. Only amateurs will trade quality to get it.
Afer watching Andax the only feature I think is very useful on the GH6 is the open gate 2:3 ratio video that you can lay a 16:9 video marker over - so you can effectively shoot for vertical and horizontal social media ratios.
I agree with you tho - its all going to be about ease of use. Im personally waiting for the Z8 which shood have Z9 tech in for a mid market price.
yah...they dropped the ball.Big time.At least for the people that already had canon glass through speedboosters....and generally people that already paid they dues with manual focusing/riggin/etc.. Love my gh5 and thought id never sell ..,but that r6/a7s3/fx3 are too good when u wanna run and gun....+full frame
Like think about it.Its supposed to be the other way around in terms of value to image ratio.The smaller sensor with the worst image and supposed to give u convenience with hella good autofocus of the processing of the smaller sensor and the more u move up in size the harder itd be...but its not which makes the decision of a switch sooo much easier..yupp BIG FLOP
I agree with this assessment. There’s a lot of room for improvement with the R6 too (overheating and rolling shutter are definitely a problem), but the full frame is pretty great and it is very easy to use. Why is is so hard for one camera to check every box??
The only thing the R6 has on the Gh6 is autofocus and low light. On a hot day that R6 will "OVER HEAT LIKE A MO-FO" I have never had a Panasonic camera do that like Sony or Canon for video.
This video makes me nervous… I still use the GH5 and was looking forward to the GH6
You shouldn’t, the GH6 is probably the camera for you!
These are Opinions, it's all depends on what you do, and how you do it, there are Myriad of reason why FF is better than Micro 4/3 and there are innumerable reasons why you need a Micro 4/3 over FF. It's all boils down to what area of the photography are you into, and the biggest elephant in the room "What's your budget". Now look at what Canon is doing killing all third party makers of RF-Lenses, you are stuck to only buying from them, for some you have to sell your kidney to buy an RF lenses for a Camera you already own.
that can also be a Factor to consider, but at the end it all depends on you the user.
My honest opinion.
It depends what type of person you are. I mean I love specs I don't care about autofocus. In the end it'll make me a better filmmaker. I will obtain better skill than the average person who constantly uses autofocus. It will help me think better as a creator. I mean I'm using a Nikon D3200 at the moment and that camera sucks. But I never gave up and it made me better today. My knowledge grew.
So it's completely dependent on the type of person you are and if you willing to go the extra mile.
If the GH6 had at least an APS-C or Super 35 sensor, I think more people would be excited, but at the price, you can get an R6. The R6 does overheat when shooting 4K, and there aren't any waveforms - which is where the GH6 would top it with the fan and waveforms. But as a professional online "content" making camera, it flops since there isn't super reliable auto-focus. Cinematography enthusiasts will be more attracted, but will probably splurge a little more and go for something like the Sony FX3 which is only $1000 more.
Been waiting for more content from you for GH6! Thanks YC!
This camera isn't exciting. It's so much so late. I mean, where does it fit with things like the S1H or the S5? It's kinda killed by other offerings from Panasonic. Factor in Sony, Canon, and if we're looking at cinematography, then it's further beat up on by the C70, BM's Pocket Cams, S1H, S5, R5, R6, and so on. The GH6 is the camera we wanted back in 2016 or 17. Maybe good for someone looking to get into the Panasonic ecosystem for the first time, but it's not an upgrade for anyone already there. If anything, it's probably going to cause those looking for an upgrade to jump ship and go to other brands.
Being in the same price range, I could definitely see blackmagic's offerings being a great alternative. GH6 is dope tho, man everything is dope now haha.
@@YCImaging That's true. I feel like anything 2015 forward is worth it's salt. Hell, I'm on professional shoots where they still use the Sony FS7. A camera from 2014/15, but, it was also 8 grand when it came out, lol. At this point, it's all about what speaks to you. great content as always cap'n!
Is they way around. This camera is for those in the m43 system with lot of lenses. If you aren’t into the system you can begin into other system, because you are not invested heavily.
Zcam f6 and pocket 6k pro for the win.
Dude you hit the topic on the nail! Uff! Mad respect! Thank you for putting us on!
A “Flop”!?? Who’s paying you to insert such a notion!? And then at the end you literally lie and say “a lot of the response of people, just isn’t!”…referencing whether they are excited or not. I’ve watched, as everyone From Three Blind Men and an Elephant, to Potato Jet to ProAV(Carl Yates)… and almost all have lauded this Camera as perhaps the best MFT Camera ever made. You failed to mention it’s outstanding Image Stabilization, it’s Four Channels of Audio, it’s extensive recording formats. And several reviewers simply took the camera out of the box and started shooting, and produced very good Video Images. So when you said the Canon R6 “just works”, suggesting the GH6 requires some kind of involved or complicated steps to shoot with is just….well….a lazy as hell comment! You also failed to mention it’s Very impressive Dynamic Range Boost, that allows for the recovery of highlights, in essence acting like a internal ND Filter. And as for your opinion on the Autofocus, it may not be as effective as Sony or Canon’s, but all of the tests shots I saw were pretty damned good! And as a disclaimer, I shoot on a Full Frame Canon, not the R6, and S35 JVC Cinema Cams, that Mount to MFT lenses. So I have a compliment of MFT lenses and without question, this will be my next Camera Purchase. Everyone understands that Full Frame and S35 Sensors achieve greater DOF…and that is in a nutshell, it’s most advantageous feature over a MFT Sensor. But there are very capable fast MFT lenses that can create good and more than acceptable DOF. But for those who have MFT glass, shallow pockets, want V-LOG, which you failed to mention, along with a host of features not found in the R6, this fantastic Camera is anything but a flop!! I suggest you actually spend more time and learn how to use and both appreciate the feature set of the GH6 before suggesting such a narrative. This review was about the laziest review I’ve seen on a a piece of Kit. It’s got a great layout of Buttons, a beautiful articulating screen, and as several have said one of the best menu layouts of any camera they have used. Again, you mentioned none of this….and that’s unacceptable. A much better topic would have been to help discern “who” this camera would be best suited for. So the answer is…NO….I’m not interested in this topic. It’s not helpful to the industry, or to those who may benefit from such a machine. Oh and did I mention, size and weight over full frame cameras!!? Again, a very important issue to many that you failed to mention.
I watched 50 videos about this camera including Tony Northrop (positive), Gerald Undone (extremely negative and uninterested in reviewing this camera). But most are neutral and mildly positive such as DpreviewTv, Gordon Lang, Potato Jet, Rowe Films, Tyler Stallman, Maati Haapoja, Richard Wong, Armando Ferreira (Spanish and English), CVP, TheCameraStore, Pro AV TV, Photolari (Spanish), Anamorphic on a budget, Three Blind Man and an Elephant Production, DSLR vídeo shooter, Media Division, Kai W and others. Richard Wong published the longest review, 1 hour,37 min and 3 seconds. YcImaging was one of the shortest with 9 minutes 57 seconds. Most reviewers are neutral and mildly positive pointing at the AF, which is one of the weakest of all manufactures, better but not 100% reliable. Most reviewers who are positive has checked all features relative to the price point, but pointed out that the market is very different at GH4 introduction. Those who where negative or sceptic, checked only AF and lowlight performance. There where even reviewers who question if Pana knows who buys the GH line and why, pointed that maybe this customers needed better PDAF then a lot of codecs.
@@angeloregina Whats amusing is that, according to this guy....The Black Magic Pocket Cinema Pro should also be a "FLOP"...that is if you consider it has no Auto Focus whatsoever, or IBIS for that matter. CVP as always, produced the most comprehensive and complete review of this Camera and endorsed it with flying colors, only to say that if you will need to "RELY" on Autofocus, it may not be the camera for you, which is fair. But both the Sony and the Canon offerings do not offer recording in ProRes, which for me is important. For the money, this camera represents a real value to indie filmmakers and Vloggers who want to up their Production Value, as well as use a far far far more list of Lens options, using adapters and speed boosters.
Gh6 is great but continues to miss the mark
Really all the gh5 users wanted was better autofocus..... i dont think i’ve ever heard a single gh5 user complain about anything else.
And yet panasonic kept the crappy contrast based DoD focusing.....
Love the specs of the GH6 but I think something that will hurt it is the S5 which is cheaper and Full frame. Yes it's missing some of the features of the GH6 and ability to record Pro Res internal but having a full frame option that's cheaper and has more dynamic range and better image will hurt it.
The GH6 would have been a hit in 2018-19 but today its a step backwards for most people. I used to shoot with the GH2, GH3, GH4, and GH5 and finally switched because I wanted a real autofocus system and I wanted a higher resolution stills camera. I sold off a most of my M43 gear but I have been hanging on to my GH5 and three lenses hoping that the GH6 would have 8K video and phase detect autofocus and when Panasonic came out and said that they were not going with phase detect and only giving the camera 5.7K I went ahead and bought an R5. I don't understand why they couldn't give us 8K? The camera has a fan on it so its not like they needed to worry about overheating. Panasonic is like that girlfriend that helped you become a better man but doesn't want to be better herself so you eventually have to move on. Panasonic if you are reading this scrap the road map and go off course. Give us a GH7 next year with 8K, phase detect autofocus and a 33mp or higher sensor and give us a new variable mount that will accept either M43, APS-C and full-frame lenses.
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I feel like full frame is something that a lot of people are jumping on? But it's something that a lot of them (most actually) don't really know how to use. I mean, if you're shooting on a full frame camera, are you framing differently to what you would be on a mft camera? Somehow I doubt it. The GH6 to me, looks like something that creatively, can do anything you want it to. You can throw a speedbooster on, and have no issues with low light (I shot an entire tv show on the gh5 in 2017, with night shoots and literally one light, and it looks great). And you get all the high frame rate stuff you need, which most other cameras don't have, and what's most important for my workflow since it came in, IBIS. Which wasn't perfect on the gh5, but super useable. I was able to re-create the resevoir dogs diner scene with it, handheld with a wheelchair.
As for getting the big frame look, I pick up my medium format camera for that. But I think the real reason why that feels good is the lenses... which I can easily put on my mft with an adapter. I dunno man, for making "content", great, use what's easier for you, but for people who want to control their image, they're looking for a more specific tool. I'll be shooting a feature on the gh6 this upcoming year, maybe I'll make a full review after about how that worked out.
I don't think this "low budget" range is so low budget as a lot of people doing photography expect it is. I'd assume a lot of people who want things to be "simple" are also not looking into €2000-plus-expensive-glass setups. Are they really the target audience for these cameras?
The only thing I am jealous of on other cameras compared to my Panasonics (GX85, GH5s, G9, GH6) is autofocus. And that's not inherently solved by a camera just because it's full frame. Sony and Canon seem to be dealing worse with image stabilization, the UI is weirder for me, and the cameras and lenses are noticeably bigger even compared to GH6.
Almost all of my MFT lenses, plus two adapted Canon primes, fit in a single bag along with a few MFT cameras. And the difference in image quality beyond the very dimly lit situations just doesn't seem to truly be there.
So, for my needs, MFT and Panasonic are fine; for people who "just want things to work", they're better off in the lower priced range anyway ($500-$1000), possibly without interchangeable glass.
1:00 THIS IS A WACK CLICKBAIT VIDEO. The R6 is a FULL FRAME CAMERA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And it is hardly that much better, Canon should be embarrassed actually.
I just purchased my GH6. I have two GH5s and one GH5 ii. I’m not a Panasonic fan boy but I have a collection of MFT lenses and because I shoot multicam it is much easier to match these cameras which means less work in post. I am Canadian and I was able to get my GH6 for $900 off the retail price. I shot my first gig with the GH6 a couple of nights ago and it did not disappoint.
YC nice points man regarding the GH6.. rq where was that tunnel walkway C Ryan took a photo of u in Atlanta? Nice spot man..
I appreciate it! It was downtown
Great vid. Glad I found your channel. I’m feeling so torn. I shoot on the G9 and while I still love it and think it’s incredible value for money, I can’t see buying another mft camera unless it can offer me some time saving benefit. Will the image out of the gh6 look better than the one out my g9. Of course, but will the camera make my life easier in anyway? Doesn’t seem like it. I love how lightweight my lens kit is, but sometimes I wonder if I’d be better off with a full frame and two decent lenses and autofocus for the times I need it. Sometimes I think I’d make more videos if I didn’t need to open that Panasonic app to lock focus. But I also don’t want to get stuck in the trap of thinking new gear is the solution to my problems.
Nice video! My opinion on the GH6 is that it occupies a space of its own and that's what makes it hard to compare to other cameras. I see it as an entry point into pro cinema cameras, targeting filmmakers who are on a budget and want to get the most out of their money. If you want those resolutions, frame rates & all those other features in a full frame format, you're going to have to spend at least double if not more on a camera (as far as I know). You chose to compare it with an R6 (probably because of the similar price). That won't get you 4k 120p and neither 5.7k 60p. I've seen others comparing it with an A7S III. That one is almost double the price of the GH6 and it still won't get you 5.7k. There's also the appeal of being able to mount pretty much any lens on it. Some of the Canon and Sony lenses cost an arm and a leg. Whereas with the GH6 you can buy some vintage glass no one has ever heard of and go full experimental with it. At the end of the day it's apples and oranges, but I don't think the GH6 is going to flop
Exactly, it keeps getting compared to cameras that cost double the price or more. So to me, that makes the GH6 a great bang for your buck. It's like at least $2000 less than any other camera it'd be "competing" with. Image quality wise, it's better quality than the GH5 and the GH5 if used correctly has incredible image quality already. So yeah, idk why people are so disappointed. "ease of use" is also subjective, the menu system alone on a Panasonic camera is easier to use than any Sony menu. It all comes down to people wanting cameras to do everything for them, that's the real problem. Anyways, agree with everything you said.
Thanks for your honestly in this video.. But those of us you referred to as "Actual" filmmaker - coming from the world of TV Commercials and Corporate Documentaries and shorts - Full manual will always be it and the specs on the GH6, ticks all the right boxes for me.. So I can't wait to lay my hands on it
2.:35…slightly disagree. Sony has pretty much given us NOTHING from their cinema cameras, besides S-Cinetone. We can’t even get shutter angle in the FX3.
I used a lot of cameras in my 10 years, and I gotta say, Panasonic GH lineup, its pretty much oriented towards cinema or filmmaking, because the cameras are slow to use, autofocus is crap its mostly for pictures, its pretty mediocre for video, cameras from 2013 had better autofocus than GH6 does. Cameras like Canon R6 are more like video cameras, fast, good autofocus, everything just makes sense, you point and click REC and on you go.
When someone tells me, a videographer needs a cinema camera, he should go back to school, a videographer, needs a VIDEO camera, he needs autofocus, he needs the camera to do a lot of work for him, because he is just ONE guy, when you have time to shoot your video, a cinema camera work just fine because it just needs to shoot great video, nothing else.
i am changing from canon r6 to gh6 whit speedbooster. The r6 would be great, but the codec is difficult to cut & the camera overheats constantly. and with canon, the ibis jumps back and forth. i'd rather do without dual pixel af. and i shoot with fujifilm apsc and medium format, so that's not a problem for me.
All the reviewers are saying that the auto focus still isn't good enough. It it had been I would buy it.
Despite all the hate and drama about it, I really like my Canon R6 and the results it produces. I did some micro-shoots (talking head, instructional/training/interview videos) with my R6 and R (b cam on a slider) in the last months. I did show those videos to some of my professional friends and they all said it looks absolutely fine. Of course, when you work on a real filmset you would need other equipment and a whole crew of people, but a lot of clients and even companies are just looking for some social media footage and I think in those cases cameras like the R6/R really are enough.
I picked up the GH6 during a $1300 sale. Mainly b/c I already have some mft lenses & mft adaptors, and I'm a hobbyist - it's a toy. But if I didn't already own MFT lenses, I don't think I would've dropped $4k on mft gear. It just makes too much sense to put that money into some nice ff glass + decent ff body.
In the end all cameras are just tools.
What you're used to is what will have the most usability and easy of use for you.
Love shooting photos and video with my GH's, not thinking about switching.
50/50. Having reliable auto focus is almost a necessity. Lots of great features, but even as a one man band, I might run 2 cameras and have one locked off, which means I need my focus to be on point.
What are you using now…?
I was just going to buy a couple of extra GH5’s until the GH5II came out. Absolutely ecstatic about it. AF seems on point. Setting the right aperture is the key to having that one locked off. Think in terms of late nite TV or your standard sit come or drama. Typically shot between T2.8 to 5.6 if not higher. Setting it any lower would be counter productive, which is why studios don’t do it, and every camera is usually manned…
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@@superzero4250 Right now I'm shooting on canon DSLRs, which are pretty reliable, even wide open, and it comes in handy. You're right that stopping down would help, but that depends on where and what you're shooting, and how much control you have over lighting. I'm also usually by myself. I've seem some videos on the GH5 and GH6 where the image "pulses" pretty severely, but I've also heard that "most of the time" it works fine. I'll just have to see if I can try one out sometime before I decide to buy one.
You save SOOO much money taking the gh6 route. cant express that enough. everyone and their momma knows sony lenses are expensive asf as well as the RF line up..
Someone had to say 😂👍
I’m not totally sold on full frame. I have a mft, crop apsc, super 35 and full frame. For video I’m not sold that full frame is the end all be all. For travel I absolutely love my GH5, for corporate content I shoot mainly super 35. I don’t really need all of the horsepower the gh6 provides so I won’t make the leap anytime soon but the R6 isn’t even on my radar. I will tell you that when I think of what camera to grab for video if I want an incognito set up for run and gun I grab my GH5 first. When I want the best video quality I also grab my GH5. That’s just me.
I guess because because I’ve use Panasonic cameras and mastered manual focus, the auto focus is not a factor. You said it correctly. These 2 cameras are for different people. If you want to turn on the camera and shoot on auto and get what you get, the GH6 is not for you.
Many criticisms of MFT but normally about AF; 1st complaint I've heard about "ease of use," which may be due to familiarity with Canon menu system--which I hear is good--more than poor controls on GH6. Surprised your video did not include any mention of GH6's superior IBIS, HIgh Res, or unlimited recording compared to R6's limits, etc. Thanks for video, but I'm sticking with MFT.
never used the R6 but i heard it can overheat , has a time limit , doesn't have custom settings and the files are a little difficult to work with...but that came from just one video that i watched and not any real research
Honestly I am not a fan of Panasonic. I believe when to settings become difficult to comprehend it’s makes it hard to love
Went from a gh5S to a bmpcc 6k , I do not miss MFT at all, if I was in the market for a B cam I’d just get another bmpcc or if I need the auto focus I’d go Sony
Not gone stunt my g i use a cinema lens so the auto focus doesn't matter much to me, I started out on the G7 and got the GH5S from their I have used Cannons and Sonys but they just don't compare to the detail a GH5S will get. Im for sure pumped about the 5.7k 60 frames that's crazy. Sony and cannon are super limited on 10 bit is this even a question. WHEN DID THE GAME BECOME EASY TO USE OVER QUALITY. Its becoming to microwave.
Great expansive video. Great points also. Just bought the GH6 & while looking for supportive validating videos on YT for this I came across yours.
Side point: kinda feel like due to what your video is titled, there may be more “pro” GH6 viewers here than “opposed” in the comments ( my 2¢) … totally agree with you. My workflow & expectation is to adjust multiple settings prior to shooting in various atmospheres when each shoot dictates it - & I’m used to it. (Not sure what type of cinematographer that makes me appear to others) but I’m used to it.
I was excited until I saw the autofocus wasn’t that much better than my GH5S. I want to stick with Panasonic so bad but they’re making it hard
Disappointing review. Never went into detail about the excellence of the 5.7k prores...and the phenomenal image quality you can g. Which no mirrorless from Sony or Canon under 10k can do. So many TH-cam talking heads got on about autofocus...though they say the camera is good...it's the autofocus and ease of use...therefor the GH6 isn't any good because of it's autofocus. If your on hi value shoots, if your needing to get useable, high quality footage, the deep video toolset is important. The prores internal to fast CF express B is important. The video image quality is important. The time code is important. The waveforms are important. The stabilisation helps. The picture quality helps. Makes you wonder..."but it has good autofocus and it's easy to use"