Panasonic GH6 vs Sony A7S III: Micro Four Thirds Caught Up
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- Usually when I compare m4/3 to full frame, there's a very noticeable difference. Full frame is usually sharper, more colour information, more separation and 3d pop, more dynamic range etc. I feel like the Panasonic GH6 has a very special look, that now rivals full frame. It's likely due to the magical Leica 200mm f2.8 prime lens. Sony A7S III vs Panasonic GH6. Sony 200-600mm f5.6-6.3 vs Leica 200mm f2.8. Things are closer than ever.
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The name should be PanaSonyc
That c at the end is waiting for Canon to join the wagon.
That leica lens is a dream
😂👍
Where is the affiliate link for Pannetoneh
the panasonic autofocus song is 🔥
That's gay
For real, better be a Spotify release 😤
@@94Ninsound94 better be? You sound like tyrant Dems or Trudeau saying you better take a poison jab 😜
Wow Ayman is here
@@owbi2431 who's man's is that? Yours.. 😜
The steady shot of the Panasonic makes more difference to me than anything else.
Yeah, especially with IS Lock on, which a lot of people don't seem to know about or talk about. Dual IS2 with IS Lock is basically a handheld tripod.
Yeah, the stability is amazing, I wish Sony includes that in their future cameras. May be, a7Siv will have amazing stabilization.
Was about to make this comment. The stability of those shots was absolutely bonkers. I would give the edge to Sony on color and clarity, but the stability of the Panasonic vs. Sony was night and day.
Came here to say this. I'm wondering if it's down to weight or ibis?
@@kimberleemodel7182 ibis
Cool tests!
For the Panasonic I discovered recently that you can use
- animal detect ON
- continuous AF OFF
- back button AF.
- AF on shutter button: OFF
That way you can trigger animal AF on demand, it's a nice hack - avoid pulsing continuously but you can re-acquire whenever needed.
For slow-mo, no animal detect but you can use a box and back-button AF on a single zone or point.
Thank you for that. Good hack.
Even when NorFrup said M43 was dead years ago I never believed him. Still rocking the Panasonic G9 and it is the most comfortable intuitive camera I've ever used. I have my A7IV for portraits and running children and stuff, but most of the time I'm rocking the G9.
I do love my g9, the evf especially. The gh6 is so disappointing in that regard because I shoot with manual lenses. But the colors are so nice on the gh6 and the improvement in high iso do matter a lot to me. Plus handheld high res 100mpx for walking around the city. Ugh panasoniiiiiiic!
@@cheeeeezewizzz for sure. The GH6 hand some significant advancements over the G9 but I still returned my Gh6. They do need a G9 successor through and I'll jump on that.
Why use the G9 over the A7IV?
@@diversityandcomicsbear2625 ease of use. Intuitive. Its straightforward photography the way it should be. No fumbling with dials and mental tasks of what's next. All wrapped up in a camera body that feels real good.
I came for the camera comparisons
And stayed for the custom autofocus tunes.
auto tuned autofocus tunes haha, I was bobbing my head
11:50 The Panasonic Autofocus Song (Pulsing in the Background) made my day today.
8:03 - Turn off focus peaking. Having it on will give you false hope. Instead, use the EVF as you do and simply look at the sharpness of in focus critters. Practice like this and you'll see your manual focus problems go away. I can nail focus on critters (not birds in flight consistently yet) even with the 5K recording modes on the GH5 II (same 3.6 million dot EVF as GH6). That's the secret, turn off focus peaking and make sure your diopter is set perfectly :)
Some Luke turning off target assist in trench run shit right here. Mitochondrial count off the charts.
@@ax75f92 LOL I didn't even think of it like that. That's a hilarious response and made my day! ;)
11:50 That song! "Panasonic pulsing in the background". "Phase detect exists you bunch of dickheads" LOL! I'm dead!
Thanks for the video man, I really enjoy your videos, both for the sincere opinions. I think one think you should consider is that the separation of the background is also coming from the compression, and even a 200mm on a MTF camera has a field of view of 400mm it does not have the compression of a 400mm on a full frame, that's were the extra comes from I think.
anyway thanks for the video and keep it up!
Great comparison video. Haven't heard the pulsing in the background song in a while. Good stuff.
Great video! Very informative and entertaining at the same time. When you said "I thought that was a sign of times to come", I laughed out loud ❤
Long time no see. Glad to see you are still hitting it.
you will test a thousand times, discover a thousand small differences, until you realize that differences in iQ are insignificant in everyday life. On the other hand, you will find that the usability and practicality is enormous! Small technical details make all the difference in use. OM Cameras for example never need to have the sensors clean, which is amazing. My FF Cameras stays at home most of the time. Right now I’m using the OM-1 (+ 300mmf4) for stills and the GH6 (+ Leica 100-400mm) for video all the time. The GX80 (or em5iii) + 75-300mm is always with me when I’m climbing.
Never need to have the sensor cleaned? Never?
Great to see you back on MFT. I own a bunch of MFT and FF cameras and the GH6 is the most fun of them all. It's an enjoyable camera to use, as you know. Just a tip, I usually run the sharpness up +2 or +3 on the GH6 (in normal PP) and it's close to the same sharpness of the A7SIII (depending don't the lenses etc). Both look great, either way. Great stuff, man! 📸
Hey, I love your channel man!!! I agree that sharpness settings can depend on the lens (and I've actually made an entire website with what I call "lens-sensor specific settings" for those I've been testing)!
@@silverlightphotoco what is the site?
@@silverlightphotoco Thanks mate!
@@CanuckQuest I tried to leave a link but it gets blocked (my guess is spammers have made it so TH-cam can't allow people to lost links much). It's too bad, as it makes TH-cam into less of a knowledge-sharing place, and more of just a "say something without proving it" sort of comments forum, etc.
This guy shoots 👍
Glad you took the hit and tested the 200 2.8 for us.
" Pulsing in the twig Tohen " They were my favorite alternative band in the early 90s! Awesome comparison! between the Sony and the Panasonic, I like the colour on the Panasonic. It looks more natural, but Sony does have the sharpness., Though I like a more filmic look! Always interesting and fun content!
Love the pulsing in the background song!!
Another great video. I have poor eyesight, but I have no problem with the GH6 EVF. Of coarse, I did need to remove my glasses and focus EVF to suit my visual needs. I trust this is not something you have inadvertently overlooked? The results I'm getting with the Panasonic Leica 200mm prime is meeting my expectations, but in all honesty I have not carried out the detailed tests that your video covers. That's something to look forward to once I become more competent at using all the features and functions over time. I transitioned from the Canon 1DX to MFT some years ago and I have not regretted the decision based on size, weight and costs. I fully appreciated just how difficult it is to reconcile the Pros & Cons of each system! 🐧
most entertaining gear review on youtube. thanks!!
Appreciate all the brutally honest assessments of these cameras. The question is, are you going to miss the Fooj once firmware updates start fixing up some of the XH2 issues? Brilliant song regarding the Panasonic focus
Love GH6 it's a camera of my dream as currently shooting with G85 it's a great upgrade
Haha, this is one of your best vids! Hilarious song!
I think these results were to be expected and once you get into the high price range with micro 4/3 kits, you start to lose the whole value proposition and the only advantage left is size/weight and better stabilization.
Excellent video. And you will find out what you need to do, I have no doubt about it.
Don't sleep on GH6's Open gate 5.8k. looks awesome and very tactile
100%
but the open gate removes a lot of the IBIS right?
I am an avid birder and I use the GH6, you really cant go wrong with either of these, but personally I prefer the GH6. Its actually not as heavy as I have seen some people complain about. I would say its more of a bulky than heavy, but nothing anyone that is out taking nature images cant manage.
It basically comes down to your personal priority and what you will use it for.
The GH6's advantages greatly outweigh its disadvantages. Its IQ is comparable to the C70 and other cine cameras, has the features/functionality of a cine camera (i.e waveform, vectorscope, shutter angle, true anamorphic support) and allows you to adapt a lot of lenses. Kasey or anyone else, name me a camera with all of that at this price point?
The functionality is amazing but I completely disagree with iq coming close to c70. The image might be comparable in good light but the moment the light goes down even moderate amount GH 6 is going to fall apart. That makes it reasonable at that price point, not a steal.
@@kapilesh14 The C70 is over 5.5k and the GH6 is 2.1k. The GH6 offers arguably, 80% of the IQ of the C70 at more than half the cost. Again, it has most of the same functionality of the C70. The C70 has mini XLR's and lovely internal ND (I love that feature), but the GH6 makes a case for a lot small film makers.
@@sliceofmymindI own sony a7Siii. Despite the fact that it has the same sensor as fx 6, I don't think a7Siii has even 70% of the iq of fx 6. You pay the price for the kind of quality you require. Fx 6 controls the image from that sensor in a far better manner than a small body of a7Siii can ever manage.
The 20% difference that you mention between gh6 and c70 in reality is like 40%. That difference is worth the price you pay. Even if I accept your point of iq similarity for a second that dgo sensor in c70 is whole another level of technology. Also, you have to remember that c70 has same sensor as c300 mii.
The smaller camera bodies have definitely improved budget conscious consumers video capabilities for sure but those big heavy cinema cameras exist for a reason.
@Seeyou Seemee No, I view IQ from the capabilities of shooting smoothly in all situations. Cine cameras are built to shoot smoothly in both the brightest sunlights and the very low light situations. Inbuilt Nd filters and dgo sensors does it for me.
@@kapilesh14 I've made a video that contained both C70 footage and GH6 footage, showed it to my boss and he couldn't tell which camera was which!
Love your videos equally funny, entertaining and educational. Love the side by side content. It would be bulky to carry, but imagine having a tripod sponsor provide a rig substantial enough to mount two cameras side by side so you could do simultaneous recording.
wow eye opening lens ! good content as always.
Dynamic Range boost doesn't lower sharpeness, but it does lower contrast and good contrast helps for perceived sharpness.
Steady shoot and colour science from Panasonic is absolute amazing. I used to have a G9 but I sold it , and bought a sony A7V.
in terms of toneh equivalence, I think a simpler way of thinking about it is that the M4/3 image is exactly what you'd get with the same focal length & aperture combo on full frame, just cropped in 2x. so the increased toneh you're getting on FF is more as a result of being zoomed in further and effectively being closer to the subject.
Depth of field effects are ALL about distance to the subject (all else being equal, or equivalent).
@@Bill-NM 100% this is why even if you get a light gathering equivalent the shot won't look the same. 16 f1.4 won't look like a 24 f2 if you crop it.
@Seeyou Seemee When we're talking "light gathering" or depth-of-field, there are equivalent lenses. You need an MFT lens that is 2 stops faster than the FF lens. Like an MFT F1.2 lens is "equivalent" to a FF F1.8 lens. Of course if you have an F1.2 FF lens, it'll be very hard/impossible to find an equivalent MFT lens, but for any FF lens of F1.4 or higher (and esp F1.8 or higher), an "equivalent" MFT lens can be found.
And since a FF camera typically has about 2 stops better noise performance, then by using a 2 stops faster MFT lens, the lenses are "equalized" not only for depth-of-field, but also for noise performance.
@@Bill-NM It's important to be very clear on what "light gathering" means. Ignoring transmission losses, a given f-stop results in the same _intensity_ of light - that is, the amount of light per unit area - for _any_ lens and sensor. FF's advantage comes from the larger sensor, which is why total light collected is higher.
The distinction is important because crop sensor detractors will "double up" on their criticism by simultaneously saying "smaller sensor = bad" _and_ also suggesting that crop sensor lenses are "less bright" by mis-applying "equivalence", whereas those criticisms are fundamentally one and the same.
For the Sony it looks like you are shooting from a boat though. I get sea sick.
You need to revisit the 100-400mm Leica now you’re into wildlife and have a GH6. You’ll get twice as close remember. I think you tested a bad copy last time. The 100-300mm mkii is also worth a look. Buttery smooth rings and stabe!
Exceptional video today. 👍 We completely appreciate the time and effort put in to show the true features between the 2 systems, and present extremely detailed examples of where your opinions actually come from. Kasey, if you are in another board meeting with the Panasonic Camera Executives and they discuss the pulsating auto focus, please give them this for me: 🖕
What is that at the end? 🤣🤣🤣
That Sony heron was bobbing up and down like buoy on the ocean..... "..I'm outta here.." LOL! Have a great day!
The slo mo is so close to my eyes. When you factor in the size difference of the steups, to me it's not close. You can actually bring the Panny setup with you anywhere in a sling bag even. I can't imagine lugging the full frame setup
Hello! I think you need to try Collimator sight for filming birds. Then put the camera to shoulder rig, to make the setup resembling "photo sniper" setup. So you will not look into EVF or screen, but point camera as rifle. This will both keep your shots super-stable and your will be able to film them when they fly take off and fly, as you will be able to track them, not loose. That is what will get you closer to perfect camera.
upvote?
I like that your journey has lead you to a deep love of nature.
Merci de la France pour tes vidéos !!!!
😅When is the album 🎶 dropping ?
Manual focus with peaking works great on an OM-1 and 150-400 Pro lens at 200 fps in h.265 1080p. It's just a very expensive and hard to find m43 rig!!
Hahaha 😆 how do you even come up with this stuff? 😂 I'm talking about the Panasonic auto focus song. So good man!
Is the Panasonic au eva1 better than Panasonic SII / SII X?
You haven't lived Manual focus until you use a 500mm Tamron Macro SP F8 Mirror lens on the M43. Kinda fun, but as it's strangely made for macro, the focus throw is balanced towards close up, meaning Tiny tiny micro adjustments for anything past 20 meters, and looong focus turns close up. Sharp though.
Panasonic GH6 can u put flashgun on this and it will rapid shoot in photo burst mode as i cant get flashgun to do burst model on a pansonic gx8 which is anoying
also do u think 1.4x or 2x convertor for the Panasonic is worth it i ask as i got the same lens but did not get one included
its pretty impressive to focus but i do agree it is abit trial i find Zebra focus put helps
This looks really good. This is enterening the realm of not mattering. its a real shame the evf and peaking makes the manual focus experience shit
Casey, my friend, did you adjust your diopter to match your eyesight?
WOW! nice comparison, can't wait to see Leica 200f2.8 with tele convertor vs Olympus 300F4😃
Ditto
It looks like GH6 has crashed blacks. I'm wondering if they're shot on S-log /V-log.
Epic Panasonic Autofocus jam.
Sony is better. So why do we give our love to the Panny? 1, Panny first love. 2, Panny feel in the hand is better. 3, Sony is the Empire. Panny is the Rebel Alliance. Now who doesn't watch Star Wars?
the separation you talk about is most likely due to the higher compression of the sony with longer lens. yes, there is a way to tell a system to system equiv with crop factor, but there is simply no way to get the same "look". Now, is it that better, up to you :)
"Compression" is ALL about distance to subject (all else being equal or equivalent). So a FF with a 600 is very close to equivalent to the Leice 200 with the 1.4 TC (560mm) - so if the subject is the same size, meaning the distance to subject is the same, then the "compression" will be the same.
"Panasonic auto-focus...pulsing in the background...hope no one noticed." 🎶
I see the dilemma: what's your use case for the Panasonic solution vs your existing Sony.
The GH6 + 100-300 zoom (or the Olympus you already have) can serve as good enough travel option that you can bring with you because it's MUCH lighter.
GH6 + the big prime is not as convincing as alternative
My non-rattling teleconverter with the Leica doesn't have "skittish" manual focus - all nice and smooth. Sure yours ain't broke?
The Sony kit starts at 200mm. The Panny is fixed at 200mm sans tc. In wildlife and sports work we can’t crop our way to that separation with the background. Cropping doesn’t magnify. So in some cases there is a distinct advantage compositionally to the full frame. I do think m43 in the gh6 and OM-1 is essentially caught up to many FF cameras on most technical merits. However we can’t ignore the physics of light waves when it comes to depth of field significance. In some situations like landscape where we want more depth in focus, and in macro, it can work in favor of crop sensors. In your video work the differences can be less important when panning with moving subjects.
sellin my gh5, mainly cos i need 4:3 to be flexable shooting for all platforms, gh6 can shoot 4k 4:3 right? I want to film myself music performing for 2 hours straight with it! The in built fan in gh6 I'm a FAN of!!!
Спасибо за спокойный и внятный рассказ. Сомнения по поводу APS-C и Micro 4\3 отпали.
Композиция об автофокусе Panasonic великолепна!
Спасибо за чувство юмора.
If you really want to have some fun carrying around your rig, slap a Ninja V into the hot shoe. No, it sucks to carry, but it would give you a 2x tap to zoom function which makes it easy to see what's in focus, and too a much larger screen to see everything. Plus the external Prores recording is awesome. Cheers 🍻
Panasonic really needs to add zoom in while recording in the higher framerates. It works great and I use it all the time at 24p, but at higher frame rates its a no go.
@@jessecumberledge4530:
My G9 does zoom in specifically for checking focus, there is an option in the menu for this. I don't think it's fps dependent, but rather just on or off. I have no idea if the GH6 does this, but I would imagine so. I always use my Ninja V now so a quick tap on the x2 icon shows me exactly what I need to see real fast and real easy. The only downside to this setup that I can think of is the added bulk and weight. It's only a couple lbs, but it gets real heavy real fast. Cheers 🍻
@@Finite-Tuning Until the GH6 no Panasonic cameras allowed zooming in WHILE recording. The gh6 is the first Panasonic to allow this. But it only works up to 60p. So for 4k120 you can only punch in before you hit record.
For a 'comedy' channel, this is a very usefully detailed and valid comparison video.
For my money... The GH6 stabilisation beats the living daylights out of any minor disadvantages it has against the Sony.
I'm all in on Canon nowadays but I miss my old GH5, and it sure would be nice to have GH6 with 10-25 Leica.
We're all pennyless now though, so the only way I could get one is to sell my C70, and I'm not going to that.
Great video this ...I can see a lot of work went into it. 👍
I loved the song!!!
How you get ween to sing with you?
No one is going to look at the output from either camera and be able to identify it as Sony or a Panasonic. Unless someone likes comparing images side-by-side and looking for small advantages on one side or the other, I think it makes sense to use the system you enjoy the most.
I would like to buy the soundtrack of this video, when is it out?
Pinned comment.
8:44 - Devastating information about Focus Ring Control not working with the teleconverter lol. Was thinking I could get away with using the PL 50-200 and 1.4x and sell my PL 100-400 for video despite the end result being smaller light gathering ability than a 1 inch sensor. Definitely not going to get the teleconverter now but will still get the PL 50-200 and will keep my PL 100-400 due to the amazing reach. Teleconverters already have too many disadvantages, but one could argue that for video work, the price you pay "might" be worth it, but it's razor thin. With the loss of Focus Ring Control, that invalidates the teleconverter for me as an option. You just saved me some money :)
I'm still hunting for a firmware update that solves this unbelievable oversight lol. No luck.
@@cameraconspiracies I didn't question you on the firmware as in a previous video you said you had to update the lenses for linear focusing. This sucks. Good work and keep the comparisons coming!
@@BackusCreativeImaging I was hoping there was a firmware for the teleconverter. Couldn't find one.
I came to search for a comparison between these two cameras and I was suggested this video. Great success! I wish I had came here to search for 10.000 dollars though.
LOL, you came here 3 minutes after the video was released as you were searching for a comparison of these particular cameras? I guess most of us don't even care about the actual gear in his videos, we are here for seeing the ducks trying to escape when he's trying to capture lens comparison pictures.
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I was drifting off to sleep when your masterpiece song 🎵 came on… trippy
If I put a tele-converter on the Lumix there is a setting (teleconverter) I had to change so the camera would perform at its best.
The Pany looked stable as F and filmic but the Sony did 'pop' but the swaying was distracting. The colour on the Sony reminds me of when you're coming up on shrooms, a 20 year old memory now.
You're comparing not only the "toneh", but the lens compression you get from a zoom lens for the Sony VS the prime lens on the GH6.
I think to be fair, you have been using the Sony setup for some time now. For Panny to be this close, on the first try out in the wild, is telling how far they have come.
Why you just don't shoot in 4k 120p on panas and then slowed it down in davinci? The 4k 120p looks fantastic for such small size combo
11:48 Seriously this self-made tune is fucking unbeatable 🤣🤣🤣
About the weight of the Sony combo, I know you don't like tripods, but maybe something like monopod you would try? it'll stabilize your footage and will bring some hands relief
Micro four thirds - decent quality, and great for travel or when you just wanna grab a camera and go for a walk - full frame for low-light and everything else. APS-C lost in no-man's land. --- ALSO, I feel like the Panny images could have benefitted greatly (and come much closer to matching the Sony) from just a bit of contrast and color boost. Were all the images straight-out-of-camera?
I mean, the only difference I saw was in contrast. Try a different picture profile, or just add a touch in post. It's really not a dig deal.
Very good image from panasonic. Sadly AF sucks AF on m43 :/
Have you compared A7R with A7S?
Nice of you Kasey to shoot in bright sunlight to even the odds between this two cameras. But props to Panasonic it almost matched the Sony footage.
I watched the video again zooming in on the images on mobile phone cause unable to use my laptop. The pulsing of Panasonic when it did manage to autofocus was especially bad because pulsing also creeped into our subjects head or body many times. When you zoom in you can experience the pulsing as like a water wave on the entire image even consuming the subject. All of these makes GH 6 only manual focus camera for me, I would personally never autofocus with it.
maybe with the 50-200 you have less toneh, and then it's easier to focus.
Leica 100-400mm, what are you waiting for?
10:09 Panny looking great
All cameras seem to have limitations when it comes to 4K 120 and faster frame rates
There is no way in heck I'm lugging a big heavy Lens on any of my full frame cameras A7S3 or Canon R. Those suckers stay on a tripod in my studio. When I'm on the road the M43 is the only way to go my GH5 and new OM1 are perfect so I look no more even though I am digging your GH6 footage. Double Darn!!
DoF for mft is double a full frame, the light gathered should be within tolerances the same light levels.
I agree with you fully about manual focus on Panasonic.
Really you should be comparing the Sony to the Panasonic S
Not a Sony fan but that lens seems hilariously good, hope the Nikkor version is as good
Would love to see this comparison with Olympus...or do you think this is a micro 4/3 issue regardless of brand?
I've already battled them long ago, catch up on my older content.
do the same in overcast - overcast weather, so using iso 1600-6400n and then compare again. M4/3 is ok if you have sunny weather. The sonny 200-600mm is a budget lens and the leica prime is the top lens. M4/3 is smaller in size and that is really the only advantage. I've always had M4/3 until last year and then eventually went to full frame (Sony). I have always defended M4/3 until now , now that I can experience the difference myself . I do photography wildlife - birds etc and rarely video .
It al depends on the apperture and MFT lens can be available in wide appertures with low cost. If you have the same apperture in a MFT and FF then the FF will win, because at the same ISO it will produce less noise, but if you can get a lower F number for the MFT, something that happens with zoom lens for example, where you can buy quality zoom lens that are f2.8 or f4 in MFT at low prices, you're going to be able to lower the ISO in the MFT and it will look the same as in a FF in terms of noise.
Why the 200, not the 300?
M43 is most best!
Well, using native panasonic lenses would reduce cost massively vs leica and might not have any perceived difference in quality.
Most Lenses are so much smaller and cheaper for M43.
M43 is not for matching FF. It is meant to be cheaper and lighter compromising background blurr, IQ and light gathering abilities. Get and try Lumix 100-300 II. I know you have access to. And for Sony use a tripod. You will end up with much better footage.
The reason the m43 has less separation than full frame is when people say 25mm is similar to 50mm in ff, what they're referring to is angle of view NOT similar in depth of field. 25mm will always have more depth of field (less separation) than a 50mm lens, every time.
Does a monopod help stabilizing that heavy ass lens?
Try the zcam E2M4. Best m43 video for slo mo and low light.
Man I hope someone at Panasonic heard the autofocus song
It was the side by side with the Sony that caused all the pain. We saw, for sure, that MFT has closed the gap. But the full frame has physics on his side, an unfair advantage. I have a FF and an MFT kit. FF for studio and short hikes. For long or arduous hikes (like the steep climb to Comet Falls) it's MFT. Now, you're young and powerful. I'm 65. I guess the weight difference is a lot more important to me. Not to mention that I have a terminal case of GAS. It makes me forgive my cameras (even the evil ones) and even when they stab me through the heart with a rusty dagger.
Guess what - doesn't get better than this. Episode and camera "love". Choose one, stick with it and become a master of its constrains. Free yourself - even at the cost of this channel...
I still think it would make more sense to take out your 75-300mm and test that against the Sony. Yes, it'll loose, but the weight loss is amazing. Then, you'll be roughly half the weight of the Sony and in travel-cam territory. You're right in saying the equivalencies don't work. If the Sony shot 8k and was a 36MP sensor and you put a 200mm f/2.8 on it, and then cropped into the shot in 4k, you'd have a similar shot to the Panasonic.
forget the AF, use something like a Sigma adapted to the GH6...see how that compares. I also love my Canon L Glass adapted...