Arkham Origins is the most overlooked game in the Arkham series Graphics hold up after 6 years Story is solid Voice acting is great (Troy Baker was a great replacement for Mark Hamill) The collectables and side quest are some of the best I love the Christmas setting, it gives the game it’s own identity and that’s why it’s a really good game to play around Christmas time The boss fights range from good to great Cold, Cold Heart is a great DLC expansion This was also the game that made me feel like a detective in a Batman game Are there problems? Yes there’s way more good than bad and it does things better than the other games
Rob Rees nah, tapping buttons at the right time was so thrilling and dodging his attacks perfectly was a lot of fun. I really just loved how fast paced the whole thing was.
Rob Rees Qte was no more then any god of war game and having to counter at exactly the right time to damage slade gave gravitas to it. You only an even match that you would lose w qte. You had to figure which attacks to cut short w a counter and what damage you needed to avoid like grappling the explosives and him or counter instead of blocking his attack. I’d put it up against any hack n slash. No roll roll attack roll repeat. Bane had a stealth aspect bc he was too strong to face. The only perplexing thing is how the games got less intense in arkam asylum years later being a prequel I’m sure there are plenty of stories left. The court of owls and the joker stealing Jason Todd is up next
It just didn't do it for me, I much prefer the spectacle of Ra's, or the super menacing Clayface fight. The Deathstroke fights animations were so repetitive to me, it felt like I was clacking to action figures together, it didn't feel brutal or anything.
All gameplay gripes aside, I actually would put this game's narrative up there with Asylum and City. I think it's highly underrated and certainly better than Arkham Knight.
@@yme3267 I said all gameplay gripes aside my dude. The story is legatmatly engaging and not full of convoluted plot points of the other Arkham Games. Plus origins has some of the best Joker/Batman content of the whole series. So.... yes
@@thefreshprincer5587 New Vegas was also handled by a studio that had made big games before. Obisidan had made a name for themselves and were already known. WB Montreal, not so much.
Hardy Farnsworth new Vegas was made in 18 months yet fallout 3 was made in 3 years yet NV is hailed by most of the fallout community as the greatest fallout game of all time. Anyway you can’t expect greatness from everyone.
Overall quality of gameplay felt half-assed when compared to City. Pretty sure tthe budget for Multiplayer played a huge part in the single-player’s shortcomings.
Why didn't you mention the detective investigation gameplay? One of the best mechanics that was introduced in this game that was later adapted in Arkham Knight.
It actually was pretty tedious imo, especially on multple playthroughs. I really wish the detective aspect of these games were a little more involved, but the AR replay system wasn't exactly how I wanted them to do it.
Origins is my fave arkham game. Ive certainly played it the most out of the four. Deathstroke fight was fantastic....but simple. Multiplayer was good but completely unnecessary. Wish they added it to the remaster collection
fucking same...the other games are just....I'm the joker and I'm gonna kill you or do this crazy plan hahahaha....origins...its actual confusion and emotion. Batman realisticly gets sick from the amount of dead bodies he seeing for example. Joker is questioning who this person is the whole game...but no, apparently the writings sucks to people.
This game irritates me because it feels like an upstart kid saying "Look guys! I can make cool stuff too!" while simply copying what the gifted kid did and making everything worse. They reskinned the freeze grenades for continuity but couldn't be bothered to do the same with the grapnel boost, which was a prototype in Arkham City? That's just example of the kind of slapdash attitude this game exudes. They wanted to ride on the coat tails of Rocksteady but didn't put in the effort to pull it off.
Lol what, how many games have you played. Croc and Copper are basic as hell, Deathstroke is piss easy spam fest with repetitive animations. Deadshot is just stealth section, Firefly and the mission before it in the subway are just awful. Bane's monster fight is ok, but still super basic and not really special other than his presence. I can't even remember what other bosses there are. Arkham City had Ra's and his incredible spectacle of a boss, Mr Freeze's awesome "remember what you've learned throughout the whole game" fight, Clayfaces was an awesome suprise, with a great boss arena. Origins just doesn't do anything great for me imo. It's good, but it's not the best in the series at anything
@@ThelateDomC. I've always hated Ra's fight. Like it actually sucked. Freeze was great and Clayface is just another "fight smaller bosses to fight the big boss"
@@tezknowsball I found Ra's fun as hell, especially on harder difficulties. It was a welcome spectacle, and with Clayfaces, the first phase isn't that and slowly freezing him awesome, him slamming his fists down and having to dive over is hand is also rad. The second phase is a smaller enemy thing, but slicing clay monsters with a sword is a cool as hell change, not just smaller enemies. Seeing them slice in half like butter was super fun
Look, I get. I get it all too well. But still, in spite of all of that, I still love Origins. It's still the game in the series I see myself coming back to the most.
I think if they had stuck with the original with the advertised idea: Black Mask sends 8 dudes after you. It would have been fine. If they wanted the joker involved than just make him one of the dudes trying to kill batman but back stabs black mask when the time was right. It would have made so much more sense. They would still be able to use the moment of Joker turning on Black Mask as a show of how different the Joker is, where as the others want the money, joker just wants the recognition.
Side missions are pretty meh and very similar but the campaign is great. Challenging throughout with great boss fights. Better campaign and gameplay than knight imo. But Knight did have the best side content of the series, barring Hush and Azreal which fell half baked.
@@im_a_random_guy3768 disagree. the game is supposed to first time batman has a night like this. so joker being the guy running the show makes sense in that regard. its the origin of what comes down the line in a very literal sense and it works. had it been sionis then it would have been like ok well then why isnt he still top dog? what happened to where joker overtakes. Knight definitely needed less joker, he ruins quite a few moments by quipping and while i love Hamil (who doesn't) he feels like hes there because they didnt think they could do a bats game without him. Origins it worked because of the story they were telling. it doesnt work in Knight for the same reason.
@Daniel Beharry I disagree with you there on that, they literally hyped black mask to be the main antagonist of this game even through trailers, then they just drop the bomb and give us a shit twist that real main antagonist is the same one from the last 2 games!!!!!! In Knight they at least tried to do something new by making scarecrow the antagonist and joker as a nuisance.
I'll say I was disappointed kind of when joker turns out to be the main villain again cause I would have loved to see a game actually all about black mask as the villain, but aside from that I still think the story is great and honestly perfer it over Arkham Knight's story.
My main criticism with the game is how visually bland it is. Asylum, City and Knight all were colourful and detailed compared to the bore of a map Origins had.
My rank list 1 - Batman: Arkham Asylum = Perfect flow, pacing and scale 2 - Batman: Arkham City = The first but with steroids 3 - Batman: Arkham Origins = Criminally underrated with the best "Fall in Love" scenes to the Joker . . . . 4 - Batman: Arkham Knight = Did you mean: Batman Arkham Team Racing
LMAO!!...Arkham Team racing!...that is not far off. For how much Arkham Origins is a cash grab. It really is deplorable just muddled Arkham Knight really is. At least Origins has a reason to be mediocre. Knight has no such thing. It looks amazing, the combat system is good. But what the hell is up with using the Batmobile in EVERYTHING!?. Riddler challenges, side missions, main missions....BOSS FIGHTS!. There is only one boss fight that doesn't involve it (the professor pyg one). Then just how the entire game hurls more and more tanks and drones at you. It's definitely has me wondering what the hell rocksteady were thinking.
If you love the games so much, why do you play like a mindless buttonmasher. The combat system has many ways to incorporate more than just punches and the occasional counter.
When I bought Arkham Origins it was used but completely fine. By the time I got to the joker hideout I was stuck in a small room trying to get through it and being stuck for at least 3 hours of game time, and then I got to the joker section in the batcave it crashed and never let me get past that points forever crashing.
Roger Craig Smith was not trying to be Kevin Conroy's Batman. He brought his own spin to the character. Troy Baker was trying real hard to be Mark Hamill's Joker. To me, that is indicative of the whole game. If it tried to do something new and interesting, it was then left beholden to what came before it.
pre rended scenes where perfectly normal when it came out, you comparing this to the new god of war, or last of us 2, or uncharted 4 is completely unfair (and the copperhead thing, she leaves the room, and meet him in the other room, to kill him, but she looses)
I respectfully disagree. While sure, it’s not that ambitious, it’s better in story than Arkham Knight. Arkham Knight was disappointing, and the batmobile essentially made the game a poor send-off to this once beloved series.
I happen to love this game. Whenever I decide to binge play the series I start with this game. But it does feel more like a DLC than a new addition. And it definitely has a copy and paste formula.
After this game it was clear to me that there was no way I was going to enjoy Knight as much as I wanted to an in my opinion gameplay wise they tapped themselves out with City.
Renee Peck I haven’t heard anything about that but that would be interesting especially seeing how they are somewhat new villains at least for non comic book readers
Second favorite of the series after City, but I get why it isn't loved by everyone. I do think it's incredibly better than Knight though, tried twice and couldn't finish that game while I've beaten Origins 3x.
This game is so vastly underrated it’s sad while I felt the graphics were lacking compared to Arkham Asylum I think a solid remastered version of the game could come out quite good , I don’t know why it hasn’t been rereleased yet but never say never .
This story is hot fire though. Several beats REALLLLY worked. The deathstroke fight is worth the price of admission. Joker explaining his new love for Batman to Harley and her falling for it. The shift from black mask to joker was a neat moment (though I wish he was a more significant part of it also) I think this one’s underrated for sure.
The death stroke fight is copy and pasted from Ra’s fight, so why would people play origins if they can play city, if they want something a bit more new they can play the definitive Batman experience which is Knight
beastfulboy no. It’s not the same fight. It literally copies one mechanic: repeated blocks. you play different games for a different experience. Origins is different enough from city in enough ways that makes it worth playing imo. But hey, opinions and ass holes, everybody’s got one.
@@rahulkanara7792 Yes, he's Better, but people like the game way more for they experiences , some point they liked best, a part they loved, the emotional value that this game may have brought to this person who made them love this game are all varied. My Favourite Arkham Game is origins, i don't played City, Asylum TOO much, or played the Arkham Knight.......yet. But for now, Origins is my favorite, and even if it is overtaken by any of these games, Origins will have a special affection in my heart
I totally agree with you. I feel Arkham Origins is a game of moments, but not really cohesive. The problem I have with the structure is that each act feels like a totally different game. The first act is the assassins plot. That's cool, but once the Joker reveal happens, it becomes more of a Joker story while the assassins become the B plot, and kind of become Joker's enhanced henchmen, instead of individual characters. That concept is just there to have the boss fights under a specific theme. Then, when the third act starts, and Bane defects from Joker, Bane becomes the main antagonist. By the end, it tries to haphazardly tie into the past Arkham games with that dumb TN-1 twist. It's a shame that they did that because J.B. Blanc's voice performance as Bane was great. The game had a great initial concept, but was ultimately half baked and the execution was messy and the three acts don't congeal into a cohesive story. This is just in a micro sense. This is not including all the glaring continuity errors the game makes to the overall Arkham timeline.
If it came out after Asylum it would be fantastic. But it came out after City. And City just done everything this game tried to do better. Better boss fights (with one exception) Better side missions Better story Better analysis of the Joker & Batman relationship Better gameplay opportunities And finally, a better open world, what mainly crippled Origins for me.
Bump, just finished this game and though it wasn’t a bad game it definitely wasn’t as good for me as the Rocksteady ones. People always say the boss fights are a highlight and even that I can’t get behind personally. Don’t even get me started on how bad the PC port is. I have a 3900X + 2080S + 32 Gigs XMP RAM + NVMe SSD drive and gsync and this game regardless of settings stuttered near constantly. Drove me mad.
You can't knock out the green riddler guards. That just shows the game isn't trying. I loved having to make sure I didnt end up knocking them out in Arkham City.
I really did appreciate the hunter-becomes-the-hunted vibe. I also really appreciated the -Solomon Grundy- Bane fight, I’d put it up there as one of the most memorable in the entire series. *Edited out Solomon Grundy, I got my big Batman villains switched around.
It's actually my favorite in the Arkham series. It makes the joker sympathetic and fleshes him out as a character. Bane is also finally given the spotlight and properly portrayed. The combat is great and a decent improvement from games before. The villain roster is so diverse and interesting for me. Black mask, Copperhead, Killer croc and Shiva Gave amazing performances. I just couldn't help but love it.
I met Troy Baker in person just a few months ago and he was so humble and kind, his performance as the Joker in Origins is what elevates the game for me.
This game isn't the best, but I enjoyed it more than asylum. My order is City Knight Origins Asylum I do recognize that Asylum is what got us here and it was an important first step, but I just didn't enjoy it as much.
Origins, in my opinion, was a step backwards after the first two Batman games. There were a few things I liked such as the main story (the whole Black Mask is actually the Joker was a nice twist), I enjoyed the boss battles (Deathstroke was in PAIN IN THE ASS the first 5 times I played him lol)I just felt that after Arkaham City came out and how great that was, Origins was like going back and playing Pong. It was fun for a second and then you get bored.
I really liked this game honestly. That Deathstroke fight was so engaging and challenging when I first played it, it's still my favorite boss fight in the series. And the story was decent, not as good as the other games, but enjoyable
Great video, I just replayed the game and you summed up all what I felt about this game from the writing and technical standpoint too. Underrated, is the word I'd use for Origins, especially in terms of story and the boss fights are the best of the franchise. But even with that, the game just comes off as rushed, textureless, under polished (seriously the game looks flat and the graphics are worse than in City a game that's two years older), empty world and bland world, and WB Montréal just genrrally copy-pasting most of the game from the much superior Arkham City which was one of the best titles of the last gen and pretty much a masterpiece; from the drugs containers instead of the Titan containers, Glue Gernade is just a renamed and slightly altered version of the Ice Grenade.
Personally I preferred city's boss fights. I just wasnt interested in who I was fighting in origins. Only deathstroke,bane and firefly caught my interest. I also didn't like how they copy and pasted city boss fights
This is my favourite game in the series, maybe I’m blinded by nostalgia cause it’s the first Batman game and first game I ever played when I was younger, but I always come back to play this game once a year, especially for the mission where Batman drops the guy off the tower and into the tree, it always gives me nostalgia
Arkham origins boss fight = actual boss fight Arkham Knight boss fight = another tank battle Conclusion : Arkham Knight is better and more ambitious than origins I rest my case if you don't agree I'll cherry pick shit and prove you wrong
13:46 I wouldn't have doubted him for a second. Maybe it's because I watch a lot of animated marvel & DC shows but he plays such a wild variety of characters hell I'm pretty sure he plays both Batman and The Joker in Batman vs TMNT (which yes was way more recent than this game). But still... he's just such a good voice actor overall.
It's well made enough that it shouldn't be called a simple cash grab. I think the deathstroke boss fight is one of the best in the entire franchise. Origins is not poorly put together at all.
This game is the definition of meh People get mad that others criticize it for no reason. People pointing out it's flaws doesn't affect your enjoyment of said game Me not liking the game won't make you dislike the game. The game wasn't received well at the time, and the people that hard defend it make the game look worse. Especially with how they take such offense to you not liking it It's meh. Always has been, always will be The Cold heart DLC though! Is pure perfection
Oddly enough I actually played this game FIRST before any of the other ones. I just kinda saw it at gamestop for like 20 bucks and bought it, so a lot of the stuff you say was copy pasted from Arkham city didn't feel that way for me. It felt new and I think that's why I enjoyed it.
It's so depressing seeing so many people saying they like this game or that they think it's underrated. It just goes to show how right publishers are about how easy it is to cash in on their franchises. I hate it because this game is by far the worst in the series in just about every way. But of course people don't just accept garbage, they DEVOUR it happily and ask for more. Brutal.
It's better than Arkham Knight. I'll give it that. Like. It's pretty lame how in Knight, whenever I have batman jump down to roofs to fight a riot of thugs, most of them run away. And I get no EXP from beating them up. *What Happened to the fun?*
@@frogglen6350 I don't recall any such thing in Knight, even then it's better than the 100% dead open world in Origins. Knight has a ton to do and the city looks a thousand times better than the hastily scrawled together map in Origins. Knight is better is every way, even story, and Knight's story is asinine.
@@Jack-bv1re Firefly(bug?) is good, Deathstroke is a bad qte fest, Bane is a mediocre rehash of Mr Freeze and then repetitive after that. Croc is a tutorial boss so he's not really anything. I don't remember any others, I guess the poison chick? Forgettable. Plus the story is nothing, besides one notable scene in the bat cave with Alfred it's pretty boring.
@@nin_tendo6458 I agree, the firefly boss fight was great. In terms of the final Bane boss fight, I thought it was great. Sure, it had a similar premise as the Mr Freeze one in AC, but it takes on a much more underdog theme with Batman. There’s literally a point where detective vision is disabled, and you have to use the rumble of his footsteps to pinpoint his position. Croc was a great intro that didn’t have anything negative, and was an overall fun fight. And the “poison chick” (which is copperhead) is very fun and interesting, mainly due to the fact that her poison creates many clones that all use special attacks to all converge on you and typically cause you to think out of the box and use different combos, at least that’s what happened to me. I wouldn’t personally use the term forgettable for me at least because a lot of these are new villains/earlier takes on said villains and can make a unique experience. Of course it’s subjective, or perhaps you had less playthroughs because this seemingly is your least favorite Arkham game. But either way, I appreciate you being respectful. I know stuff like this can often become heated.
I think I liked it more than Asylum and City, it was like City but with an improved open world system, the suit and graphics were better, and The joker had great moments
@@Pelayum I think the worse one is Knight. This was good. To much reliance on the batmobile in Knight. Wish they could have made the batwing player controlled
the boss fights are amazing. the ninjas npcs are amazing the graphics are better, the game play is better. people dont like Origins but its better than City for me
The combat system is questionable at best. I’m very skilled in this regard but many flaws still exist, such as the unreliable counter function and enemy hitboxes. The plot of the game is also incredibly broad and you lose track of the story as a whole very quickly. Origins is the worst entry in the series from my experience, but to each their own.
1) Arkham City 2) Arkham Knight 3) Arkham Asylum 4) Arkham Origins Origins isn’t a bad game in my eyes, but it’s still nowhere near as good as Rocksteady’s trilogy. Plus, It absolutely baffles me that so many people bitch about Arkham Knight...there’s only a couple things about it that puts it under Arkham City, like the tank battles. Other than that, it’s a fucking awesome game.
I used to overlook this game back when it came out. But right now I am obssessed with it honestly. Probably one of the best Batman/ Joker stories period. Troy Baker is the official new Joker to me also. Hamill will always be number 1 but if he decided right now to call it quits for good and never return as the Joker. I honestly wouldn't even be that madd aslong as Troy gets to play him more frequently moving forward.
I loved all the games they each have their reason for being great which is why (my unpopular opinion) I think they are all equally awesome games ALL Arkham games including origins
despite knowing for years now how all most all the assets from Arkham City were reused, the combat not being as fast or responsive as the Rocksteady Arkham games, not having Kevin Conroy as Batman or Mark Hammil as Joker ,and having to wait a long time to get it so all the bugs were taken care of... I actually really liked Batman Arkham Origins.. its not as good as Asylum, City or Knight, but I still think it's quite good overall ( I should note that by time I got the game, my copy had no bugs or glitches in it so didn't have t o deal with those annoyances)
The first 59 seconds perfectly describes my problem with this game. It looks like a game I love, it plays like a game I love, but it’s missing the soul that made Arkham City the game I love. I like the Cold, Cold Heart DLC more than the base game! They do a better job with using revolutionary free flow combat in clever ways for boss fights vs Deathstroke and Lady Shiva, but that’s where my praise for this game ends. Other than that, they do nothing new to make it feel like a new game that has a reason to exist like every one of Rocksteady’s games
Another solid review! Can't wait for your Arkham Knight video. It's personally my favourite in the series but i know that objectively it's very problematic to say the least
I think the game is pretty good. I like the story and the gameplay. The side missions were also rlly fun. I didn’t know it was a prequel when initially playing it so I found it something special.
This is the same guy who gives every AC installment praise but suddenly says Warner Brothers is making the Arkham games a cash cow when they released a title in between City and Knight just to keep the hype alive for another couple years... Huh? This game is NOT decent, the AC franchise, the very one you somehow always praise, as a whole is meh, while Arkham Origins, at its worst, is a good, solid entry in a phenomenal franchise, it just didn't live up to its predecessors in my opinion...
As a child, when I first dipped my toes into the franchise, I started with Origins, seeing as how it was the first game that caught my attention at the game store. Once I beat the game, I actually thought it was great because dumb child brain and the plot and combat that I really enjoyed. Then, I went to the store and bought Arkham City. Due to the plotline of Origins, at the time, I thought that was the first game, and I condemned Arkham City for having outdated visuals and recycled content. Looking back now, my outlook on Origins conpletely changed. Its crazy how much credit you'd give for innovation and originality.
Honestly I think this is the best of all the Arkham games. Origins was the only one I played all the way through, all the Rocksteady games got boring about halfway through.
I doubt whether the people(who've labelled this thing 'underrated' so many times that it is probably anything but) questioning your credibility when it comes to your completion of origins have attempted to 100% this mess themselves. 9 years later there are still bugs galore in origins; I just happened to have faced one that disrupted my progress by barring me from fully upgrading batman's abilities. Gotham Knights' release will probably reinforce my opinion that Montreal is just capable enough to create insipid, lacklustre video games that can only appeal to those who reckon origins is a great game.
I don't comment on TH-cam videos but I would like to state, this game is still broken on Xbox 360. Everytime I beat the game, the game deletes all of my save files after four days of the initial completion.
City>asylum>knight>origins imo... city was a masterpiece and asylum i played later and was also a greeeeat game... while knight for me was quite boring, and the story all over the place and i was wishing just to finish the game at the end....and knights car was a bad addition for me, fun in the beginning but it was a gimmick later on and took away from the core detective gameplay of batman
This game fucked up the franchises lore so much more than Arkham Knight like Asylum and City had tiny inconsistencies but WB Montreal have so much to learn and I hope there next Batman game is it's own thing not a Arkham game and ahh this game makes my head hurt aha
Personally, I enjoyed Arkham Origins. Troy Bakers portrayal of Joker and his origin really made the brief departure from Hamill feel almost like a quick breather and a side tasting, which is what Origins really feels like to me. It feels like the side dish of garlic bread to the grand meat feast of the Rocksteady games. And I think that’s fine. I personally believe it’s the weakest game of the series, but this IS the Arkham series we’re discussing here. These games are great regardless, so even if one isn’t keeping up with the pack, i still find it powering along as a fun, Batman adventure to coincide with the beautiful comic book opera that is the main trilogy
I personally think origins was the best overall of the arkham games. All the others did one thing best but this game did all the aspects well and had the best boss fights by far ... also knight was trash :)
@@adoptic6342 awful writing, gross mis-use of characters, a plot tiwst that wasn't even a twist, boring enemy variety and level design, the PC port was a disaster, half arsed non-co op, bat tank, drone enemies, repetative boss battles, you get the point. ... good hand to hand combat and voice acting though :\
@@samcadwallader1561 the writing was on par with City, mis-used were the 8 assassins, Joker being Black Mask was even worse of a plot twist imo, there wasn't much more they could add but Origins added nothing new at all, Origins had a good setting but was the only game to have bad level design, the port has nothing to do with the game itself, and what co-op? Origins was the only one with multiplayer but it was awesome. Some bad boss battles yes, but every boss battle was boring and forgettable from Origins. Knight was a dissappointment for sure but it's far from a bad game.
@@samcadwallader1561 IMO this game has some weird gameplay. It looks off. Smthn about it. Theres also that it seems lifeless, Gotham is tiny and small and the graphics for the characters dont look realistic. I don't mean the graphics need to be better, arkham asylum had inferior graphics yet the characters moved more realistic
@@adoptic6342 I can't agree that the black mask twist was worse but I agree it wasn't handled great. And when I said half arsed coop I meant the weird dual character thing in knight that should've allowed for coop.
Nothing in Origin is really amazing, except that despite its flaws it still got hands down the best writing and story in the series. But damn do I really hate that combat pose thing they added. Like, why? It looks so much less cool and you can't even counter until Batman is in that combat pose.
I really enjoyed AO though I think it should have had much more in-game content as well have had a few story issues fixed. Examples: 1) Killer Croc is one of the assassins but we fight him before we find out he is one and there is a sewer level later one. 2) Deadshot and Lady Shiva are both assassins but relegated to side-missions instead of faced within the main story. 3) The pacing is very uneven. The second half of the game is so much shorter than the first half, consisting of the Bridge and Blackgate. 4) Despite having a map size twice as big as Arkham City, AO has less in-game content (less side ops, shorter story mode, & only one PC). 5) Loose plot threads. I thought Alberto Falcone would lead a gang war against Penguin with Black Mask dethrone but it never happened.
By far my favorite entry in the Arkham series is Origins. For three reasons; 1. The story. 2. The boss fights (my favorite was Deathstroke). And 3. Were the bits where Batman was actually being a detective. I mean in City Ra's Al Ghul addresses him as detective, yet he only pieced together what 2 crimes in the main plot. Sure many things about Origins were copy pasted from City, I'll admit that. But Luke surely you know that Origins isn't the first game to do such a thing. Also Luke... word of advice, don't get Arkham Knight for pc. Trust me its a nightmare.
Not to be shameless but my LP of the game on my channel is FULL of glitches. And I played it on the PS3, so trust me it's not just a PC thing. I once fell through a moving elevator and had to reload because I couldn't continue
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Arkham Origins is the most overlooked game in the Arkham series
Graphics hold up after 6 years
Story is solid
Voice acting is great (Troy Baker was a great replacement for Mark Hamill)
The collectables and side quest are some of the best
I love the Christmas setting, it gives the game it’s own identity and that’s why it’s a really good game to play around Christmas time
The boss fights range from good to great
Cold, Cold Heart is a great DLC expansion
This was also the game that made me feel like a detective in a Batman game
Are there problems? Yes there’s way more good than bad and it does things better than the other games
Daimon Atkins the graphics do not hold up lol. I own City and Origins on my PC and origins looks worse then City (Textures, blending, lighting).
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Was the original version or the Return to Arkham version
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@@orkman9273 its all good on xbox one, no lag no shitty graphics
Also best boss battles
The Deathstroke Boss Battle in Arkham Origins is my personal favorite of the Batman Arkham series.
Wait, what? It's a glorified QTE. Slade deserved much better. Still, at least he wasn't a tank boss in Origins >.>
Rob Rees nah, tapping buttons at the right time was so thrilling and dodging his attacks perfectly was a lot of fun. I really just loved how fast paced the whole thing was.
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Qte was no more then any god of war game and having to counter at exactly the right time to damage slade gave gravitas to it. You only an even match that you would lose w qte. You had to figure which attacks to cut short w a counter and what damage you needed to avoid like grappling the explosives and him or counter instead of blocking his attack. I’d put it up against any hack n slash. No roll roll attack roll repeat. Bane had a stealth aspect bc he was too strong to face.
The only perplexing thing is how the games got less intense in arkam asylum years later being a prequel
I’m sure there are plenty of stories left. The court of owls and the joker stealing Jason Todd is up next
It just didn't do it for me, I much prefer the spectacle of Ra's, or the super menacing Clayface fight. The Deathstroke fights animations were so repetitive to me, it felt like I was clacking to action figures together, it didn't feel brutal or anything.
A good portion of that fight is lifted from Ra’s in City, I don’t understand why anyone brings that up when talking about Origins’ bosses.
IMO Arkham Origins is way too good overall to be called a cash grab. Great visuals, great story, great presentation, bosses, enemy encounters, DLC.
I agree batman Arkham orings was a really good Arkham game
FINALLY! Some people who actually like this game!
Also the music is great
It was way better than Arkham Knight at least. It wasn't as great as City but it's not as bad as people say it is.
I wish they went a little farther with the multiplayer.
I thought Origins was decent but I will admit that the Deathstroke was awesome
Sibbie i did that all the time
All gameplay gripes aside, I actually would put this game's narrative up there with Asylum and City. I think it's highly underrated and certainly better than Arkham Knight.
What are you talking about? Arkham City has an absolutely horrendous story.
@@yme3267 I said all gameplay gripes aside my dude. The story is legatmatly engaging and not full of convoluted plot points of the other Arkham Games. Plus origins has some of the best Joker/Batman content of the whole series.
So.... yes
Facts
I don't understand why people hate the Arkham Knight story so much.
Terror Billy Because it makes no sense with the established lore and is a shitty remix of a much better story
I think you’re being too harsh on WB Montreal. They had 18 months to make a game. No wonder they couldn’t innovate very much and it shipped with bugs.
Just like new Vegas
@@thefreshprincer5587 New Vegas was also handled by a studio that had made big games before. Obisidan had made a name for themselves and were already known. WB Montreal, not so much.
@@oliverqueen6321 I see
@@thefreshprincer5587 well also new Vegas is probably the best fallout
Hardy Farnsworth new Vegas was made in 18 months yet fallout 3 was made in 3 years yet NV is hailed by most of the fallout community as the greatest fallout game of all time. Anyway you can’t expect greatness from everyone.
My favorite Arkham, especially the boss fights. Wish Deathstroke was portrayed better though the dude has super strength and hyper intelligence.
Ya it was not like Arkham Knight as in that Deathstroke was a fucking tank battle
My favourite Batman arkham as well, underrated game.
nikola 1809
I play it every year around Christmas time
I'll one up u, my favourite game of all time
@@donkeyman9710 I mean, have you ever played tick tac toe? It's pretty impressive i do say so myself
I actually really liked Arkham Origins. I still don’t get people’s beef with it. It was a pretty solid Batman game, in my opinion.
Wonka Bars fact
It's my favorite out of them all
Overall quality of gameplay felt half-assed when compared to City. Pretty sure tthe budget for Multiplayer played a huge part in the single-player’s shortcomings.
Bad graphics bad gameplay plot holes re used story
@@captainbeastwinger4940 like your comment
I disagree, Asylum is the darkest game of the quadrilogy.
Tru, if scan all those arkham codes, story gets darker n darker
Why didn't you mention the detective investigation gameplay? One of the best mechanics that was introduced in this game that was later adapted in Arkham Knight.
1238Steven his hate for the game blinded him
It actually was pretty tedious imo, especially on multple playthroughs. I really wish the detective aspect of these games were a little more involved, but the AR replay system wasn't exactly how I wanted them to do it.
I hate thé time Rewind ability
The system and use worked more in origins imo
Because it was overly basic. You just scan and rewind lol nothing majoe
I actually think its underrated.
It's honestly my personal favorite of the series
I play this every christmas eve because it's so good
@@YngolSonofYsgramor nice
"Underrated" because it was a dissappointment and downgrade from arkham city
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origins had its issues, to be sure but most of the complaints in the video feel like personal preferences and opinion rather then fact
That is how opinions work.
@@spartanq7781 lol couldn't have said it better myself.
Yeah, this guy says the word "cash grab" like 5 times in 2 minutes
Origins is the shit
isnt the point of these videos to hear HIS opinion on the games?
Origins is my fave arkham game. Ive certainly played it the most out of the four. Deathstroke fight was fantastic....but simple.
Multiplayer was good but completely unnecessary.
Wish they added it to the remaster collection
Craig Keighley I really want a remaster
It's my favourite of the series, tbh. I absolutely love how they wrote the Joker's and Bats' relationship
Word
fucking same...the other games are just....I'm the joker and I'm gonna kill you or do this crazy plan hahahaha....origins...its actual confusion and emotion. Batman realisticly gets sick from the amount of dead bodies he seeing for example. Joker is questioning who this person is the whole game...but no, apparently the writings sucks to people.
Jmanch3w city is way better this is a cash grab
@@BludPanda read my mind lol. City and Asylum r good games but that's all they r. That's why origins and knight r my faves
This game is much better than "Just OK". It's up there with Arkham Asylum and City for me. Definitely very underrated.
This game irritates me because it feels like an upstart kid saying "Look guys! I can make cool stuff too!" while simply copying what the gifted kid did and making everything worse. They reskinned the freeze grenades for continuity but couldn't be bothered to do the same with the grapnel boost, which was a prototype in Arkham City? That's just example of the kind of slapdash attitude this game exudes. They wanted to ride on the coat tails of Rocksteady but didn't put in the effort to pull it off.
This game had some of the best boss fights in any game ever
4 long ass years
Haha nah but they were still good but no
Lol what, how many games have you played. Croc and Copper are basic as hell, Deathstroke is piss easy spam fest with repetitive animations. Deadshot is just stealth section, Firefly and the mission before it in the subway are just awful. Bane's monster fight is ok, but still super basic and not really special other than his presence. I can't even remember what other bosses there are.
Arkham City had Ra's and his incredible spectacle of a boss, Mr Freeze's awesome "remember what you've learned throughout the whole game" fight, Clayfaces was an awesome suprise, with a great boss arena.
Origins just doesn't do anything great for me imo. It's good, but it's not the best in the series at anything
@@ThelateDomC. I've always hated Ra's fight. Like it actually sucked. Freeze was great and Clayface is just another "fight smaller bosses to fight the big boss"
@@tezknowsball I found Ra's fun as hell, especially on harder difficulties. It was a welcome spectacle, and with Clayfaces, the first phase isn't that and slowly freezing him awesome, him slamming his fists down and having to dive over is hand is also rad. The second phase is a smaller enemy thing, but slicing clay monsters with a sword is a cool as hell change, not just smaller enemies. Seeing them slice in half like butter was super fun
Look, I get. I get it all too well. But still, in spite of all of that, I still love Origins. It's still the game in the series I see myself coming back to the most.
I think if they had stuck with the original with the advertised idea: Black Mask sends 8 dudes after you. It would have been fine. If they wanted the joker involved than just make him one of the dudes trying to kill batman but back stabs black mask when the time was right. It would have made so much more sense. They would still be able to use the moment of Joker turning on Black Mask as a show of how different the Joker is, where as the others want the money, joker just wants the recognition.
Side missions are pretty meh and very similar but the campaign is great. Challenging throughout with great boss fights. Better campaign and gameplay than knight imo. But Knight did have the best side content of the series, barring Hush and Azreal which fell half baked.
Dan Bharry not really it needed less joker same with knight I remember being so annoyed when you figure out black mask isn’t even the main baddie
@@im_a_random_guy3768 disagree. the game is supposed to first time batman has a night like this. so joker being the guy running the show makes sense in that regard. its the origin of what comes down the line in a very literal sense and it works. had it been sionis then it would have been like ok well then why isnt he still top dog? what happened to where joker overtakes. Knight definitely needed less joker, he ruins quite a few moments by quipping and while i love Hamil (who doesn't) he feels like hes there because they didnt think they could do a bats game without him. Origins it worked because of the story they were telling. it doesnt work in Knight for the same reason.
@Daniel Beharry I disagree with you there on that, they literally hyped black mask to be the main antagonist of this game even through trailers, then they just drop the bomb and give us a shit twist that real main antagonist is the same one from the last 2 games!!!!!! In Knight they at least tried to do something new by making scarecrow the antagonist and joker as a nuisance.
I'll say I was disappointed kind of when joker turns out to be the main villain again cause I would have loved to see a game actually all about black mask as the villain, but aside from that I still think the story is great and honestly perfer it over Arkham Knight's story.
My main criticism with the game is how visually bland it is. Asylum, City and Knight all were colourful and detailed compared to the bore of a map Origins had.
My rank list
1 - Batman: Arkham Asylum = Perfect flow, pacing and scale
2 - Batman: Arkham City = The first but with steroids
3 - Batman: Arkham Origins = Criminally underrated with the best "Fall in Love" scenes to the Joker
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4 - Batman: Arkham Knight = Did you mean: Batman Arkham Team Racing
LMAO!!...Arkham Team racing!...that is not far off. For how much Arkham Origins is a cash grab. It really is deplorable just muddled Arkham Knight really is. At least Origins has a reason to be mediocre. Knight has no such thing. It looks amazing, the combat system is good. But what the hell is up with using the Batmobile in EVERYTHING!?. Riddler challenges, side missions, main missions....BOSS FIGHTS!. There is only one boss fight that doesn't involve it (the professor pyg one). Then just how the entire game hurls more and more tanks and drones at you. It's definitely has me wondering what the hell rocksteady were thinking.
Batman: need for speed
You misspelled Batman Arkham Tanks
Knights story feels really rushed. like rocksteady kinda wanted to move on.
Dan Bharry that’s exactly how I felt; like they wanted to be done with it.
If you love the games so much, why do you play like a mindless buttonmasher. The combat system has many ways to incorporate more than just punches and the occasional counter.
When I bought Arkham Origins it was used but completely fine. By the time I got to the joker hideout I was stuck in a small room trying to get through it and being stuck for at least 3 hours of game time, and then I got to the joker section in the batcave it crashed and never let me get past that points forever crashing.
Roger Craig Smith was not trying to be Kevin Conroy's Batman.
He brought his own spin to the character.
Troy Baker was trying real hard to be Mark Hamill's Joker.
To me, that is indicative of the whole game.
If it tried to do something new and interesting, it was then left beholden to what came before it.
pre rended scenes where perfectly normal when it came out, you comparing this to the new god of war, or last of us 2, or uncharted 4 is completely unfair (and the copperhead thing, she leaves the room, and meet him in the other room, to kill him, but she looses)
Ahh but i look at city and it has better graphics and character models then oeigins
09:00
This guy's A posing in an attempt to scare off Batman. Even his condition is calm. He should be feared.
Actually made me chuckle good one mate
I respectfully disagree. While sure, it’s not that ambitious, it’s better in story than Arkham Knight. Arkham Knight was disappointing, and the batmobile essentially made the game a poor send-off to this once beloved series.
IMO Origins could of been the best arkham game if they had more time and freedom to develop and polish it.
I happen to love this game. Whenever I decide to binge play the series I start with this game. But it does feel more like a DLC than a new addition. And it definitely has a copy and paste formula.
After this game it was clear to me that there was no way I was going to enjoy Knight as much as I wanted to an in my opinion gameplay wise they tapped themselves out with City.
MrSecretSentai Do you have any thoughts on the potential Court of Owls game?
Renee Peck I haven’t heard anything about that but that would be interesting especially seeing how they are somewhat new villains at least for non comic book readers
Second favorite of the series after City, but I get why it isn't loved by everyone. I do think it's incredibly better than Knight though, tried twice and couldn't finish that game while I've beaten Origins 3x.
Wayyy i messaged about this video being made ages ago and its here and I'm very happy now
This game is so vastly underrated it’s sad while I felt the graphics were lacking compared to Arkham Asylum I think a solid remastered version of the game could come out quite good , I don’t know why it hasn’t been rereleased yet but never say never .
Funny how he talks ab how pre rendered cutscenes need to be a thing of the past, yet this is a last gen game...
This story is hot fire though.
Several beats REALLLLY worked.
The deathstroke fight is worth the price of admission.
Joker explaining his new love for Batman to Harley and her falling for it.
The shift from black mask to joker was a neat moment (though I wish he was a more significant part of it also)
I think this one’s underrated for sure.
The death stroke fight is copy and pasted from Ra’s fight, so why would people play origins if they can play city, if they want something a bit more new they can play the definitive Batman experience which is Knight
beastfulboy no. It’s not the same fight. It literally copies one mechanic: repeated blocks.
you play different games for a different experience. Origins is different enough from city in enough ways that makes it worth playing imo.
But hey, opinions and ass holes, everybody’s got one.
@@beastfulboy Did you even play City or Origins?
@@beastfulboy huh, what the fuck
It’s like most the ppl who says their favorite Arkham game is origins, never played Arkham city.
Creeper Aw man everyone has played all of them origins was just the most fun
Maul yea I found it fun, but if I were comparing the two games on which game is better. I would feel Arkham city is better than origins.
@@rahulkanara7792 Yes, he's Better, but people like the game way more for they experiences
, some point they liked best, a part they loved, the emotional value that this game may have brought to this person who made them love this game are all varied.
My Favourite Arkham Game is origins, i don't played City, Asylum TOO much, or played the Arkham Knight.......yet. But for now, Origins is my favorite, and even if it is overtaken by any of these games, Origins will have a special affection in my heart
I totally agree with you. I feel Arkham Origins is a game of moments, but not really cohesive. The problem I have with the structure is that each act feels like a totally different game. The first act is the assassins plot. That's cool, but once the Joker reveal happens, it becomes more of a Joker story while the assassins become the B plot, and kind of become Joker's enhanced henchmen, instead of individual characters. That concept is just there to have the boss fights under a specific theme. Then, when the third act starts, and Bane defects from Joker, Bane becomes the main antagonist. By the end, it tries to haphazardly tie into the past Arkham games with that dumb TN-1 twist. It's a shame that they did that because J.B. Blanc's voice performance as Bane was great. The game had a great initial concept, but was ultimately half baked and the execution was messy and the three acts don't congeal into a cohesive story.
This is just in a micro sense. This is not including all the glaring continuity errors the game makes to the overall Arkham timeline.
If it came out after Asylum it would be fantastic. But it came out after City. And City just done everything this game tried to do better.
Better boss fights (with one exception)
Better side missions
Better story
Better analysis of the Joker & Batman relationship
Better gameplay opportunities
And finally, a better open world, what mainly crippled Origins for me.
You are reffering this points to origins or city?
Because, the Better boss fights, the Story, the Joker & Bats relationship, I sincerely think Origins done Better
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I don't not understand on what earth you can think that, but it is your opinion so I won't argue.
@@yohschannel5226 The joker batman dynamic in AC was just as good and the bosses in AC were better
Bump, just finished this game and though it wasn’t a bad game it definitely wasn’t as good for me as the Rocksteady ones. People always say the boss fights are a highlight and even that I can’t get behind personally. Don’t even get me started on how bad the PC port is. I have a 3900X + 2080S + 32 Gigs XMP RAM + NVMe SSD drive and gsync and this game regardless of settings stuttered near constantly. Drove me mad.
I personally love Origins. It's my second favorite Arkham game after City.
You can't knock out the green riddler guards. That just shows the game isn't trying. I loved having to make sure I didnt end up knocking them out in Arkham City.
I really enjoyed the deadshot and deathstroke encounters, maybe my favorite moments in the entire series.
I really did appreciate the hunter-becomes-the-hunted vibe.
I also really appreciated the -Solomon Grundy- Bane fight, I’d put it up there as one of the most memorable in the entire series.
*Edited out Solomon Grundy, I got my big Batman villains switched around.
Origins didnt have a grundy fight...
@@callumfisher8101 shoot your're right! I meant the Bane fight.
It's actually my favorite in the Arkham series. It makes the joker sympathetic and fleshes him out as a character. Bane is also finally given the spotlight and properly portrayed. The combat is great and a decent improvement from games before. The villain roster is so diverse and interesting for me. Black mask, Copperhead, Killer croc and Shiva Gave amazing performances. I just couldn't help but love it.
Ngl this vid is pretty biased I mean tbh he keeps bringing up the fact that it's an Arkham city rip off
Because it is.
Because it is an arkham city rip off😂😂😂
It's like the younger brother athlete who finished 12th in the marathon and his older brother finished 1st
Are u saying its not a arkham city rip off?
I met Troy Baker in person just a few months ago and he was so humble and kind, his performance as the Joker in Origins is what elevates the game for me.
This game isn't the best, but I enjoyed it more than asylum. My order is
City
Knight
Origins
Asylum
I do recognize that Asylum is what got us here and it was an important first step, but I just didn't enjoy it as much.
Kev Jumba I like that list.
Damn i miss this game, really... spent hours in it and the christmas atmosphere just make it more great.
Origins, in my opinion, was a step backwards after the first two Batman games. There were a few things I liked such as the main story (the whole Black Mask is actually the Joker was a nice twist), I enjoyed the boss battles (Deathstroke was in PAIN IN THE ASS the first 5 times I played him lol)I just felt that after Arkaham City came out and how great that was, Origins was like going back and playing Pong. It was fun for a second and then you get bored.
I really liked this game honestly. That Deathstroke fight was so engaging and challenging when I first played it, it's still my favorite boss fight in the series. And the story was decent, not as good as the other games, but enjoyable
This is the best Arkham City DLC
Great video, I just replayed the game and you summed up all what I felt about this game from the writing and technical standpoint too.
Underrated, is the word I'd use for Origins, especially in terms of story and the boss fights are the best of the franchise. But even with that, the game just comes off as rushed, textureless, under polished (seriously the game looks flat and the graphics are worse than in City a game that's two years older), empty world and bland world, and WB Montréal just genrrally copy-pasting most of the game from the much superior Arkham City which was one of the best titles of the last gen and pretty much a masterpiece; from the drugs containers instead of the Titan containers, Glue Gernade is just a renamed and slightly altered version of the Ice Grenade.
Personally I preferred city's boss fights. I just wasnt interested in who I was fighting in origins. Only deathstroke,bane and firefly caught my interest. I also didn't like how they copy and pasted city boss fights
I must be the only person that enjoyed this game. It was fine.
Callum March I love the game it’s really up their to Arkham city despite not bringing anything new to table
This is my favourite game in the series, maybe I’m blinded by nostalgia cause it’s the first Batman game and first game I ever played when I was younger, but I always come back to play this game once a year, especially for the mission where Batman drops the guy off the tower and into the tree, it always gives me nostalgia
Arkham origins boss fight = actual boss fight
Arkham Knight boss fight = another tank battle
Conclusion : Arkham Knight is better and more ambitious than origins
I rest my case if you don't agree I'll cherry pick shit and prove you wrong
You accuse him of cherry picking, yet that's exactly what you're doing. Oh the irony.
I’ve literally been waiting for this video ever since the Arkham City analysis. And now. Finally I can grab my snacks and enjoy. Thank you.
13:46 I wouldn't have doubted him for a second.
Maybe it's because I watch a lot of animated marvel & DC shows but he plays such a wild variety of characters hell I'm pretty sure he plays both Batman and The Joker in Batman vs TMNT (which yes was way more recent than this game). But still...
he's just such a good voice actor overall.
It's well made enough that it shouldn't be called a simple cash grab. I think the deathstroke boss fight is one of the best in the entire franchise. Origins is not poorly put together at all.
game was a perfect batman game besides that weird multiplayer 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
This game is the definition of meh
People get mad that others criticize it for no reason. People pointing out it's flaws doesn't affect your enjoyment of said game
Me not liking the game won't make you dislike the game. The game wasn't received well at the time, and the people that hard defend it make the game look worse. Especially with how they take such offense to you not liking it
It's meh. Always has been, always will be
The Cold heart DLC though! Is pure perfection
I’m trying to finish Batman Arkham origins but the game always freezes right after the fight when Vicki Vale records you live
Update the issue seemed to fix itself lol
Oddly enough I actually played this game FIRST before any of the other ones. I just kinda saw it at gamestop for like 20 bucks and bought it, so a lot of the stuff you say was copy pasted from Arkham city didn't feel that way for me. It felt new and I think that's why I enjoyed it.
I'm glad you enjoyed it.
It's so depressing seeing so many people saying they like this game or that they think it's underrated. It just goes to show how right publishers are about how easy it is to cash in on their franchises. I hate it because this game is by far the worst in the series in just about every way. But of course people don't just accept garbage, they DEVOUR it happily and ask for more. Brutal.
It's better than Arkham Knight. I'll give it that.
Like. It's pretty lame how in Knight, whenever I have batman jump down to roofs to fight a riot of thugs, most of them run away. And I get no EXP from beating them up. *What Happened to the fun?*
@@frogglen6350 I don't recall any such thing in Knight, even then it's better than the 100% dead open world in Origins. Knight has a ton to do and the city looks a thousand times better than the hastily scrawled together map in Origins. Knight is better is every way, even story, and Knight's story is asinine.
Arkham origins has the best boss fights in the series, especially considering the high quantity of them
@@Jack-bv1re Firefly(bug?) is good, Deathstroke is a bad qte fest, Bane is a mediocre rehash of Mr Freeze and then repetitive after that. Croc is a tutorial boss so he's not really anything. I don't remember any others, I guess the poison chick? Forgettable.
Plus the story is nothing, besides one notable scene in the bat cave with Alfred it's pretty boring.
@@nin_tendo6458 I agree, the firefly boss fight was great. In terms of the final Bane boss fight, I thought it was great. Sure, it had a similar premise as the Mr Freeze one in AC, but it takes on a much more underdog theme with Batman. There’s literally a point where detective vision is disabled, and you have to use the rumble of his footsteps to pinpoint his position. Croc was a great intro that didn’t have anything negative, and was an overall fun fight. And the “poison chick” (which is copperhead) is very fun and interesting, mainly due to the fact that her poison creates many clones that all use special attacks to all converge on you and typically cause you to think out of the box and use different combos, at least that’s what happened to me. I wouldn’t personally use the term forgettable for me at least because a lot of these are new villains/earlier takes on said villains and can make a unique experience. Of course it’s subjective, or perhaps you had less playthroughs because this seemingly is your least favorite Arkham game. But either way, I appreciate you being respectful. I know stuff like this can often become heated.
I think I liked it more than Asylum and City, it was like City but with an improved open world system, the suit and graphics were better, and The joker had great moments
This game was actually fucking amazing, I think it was one of the best Batman Arkham games as well, yall slept on this game
It's slept on, but still arguebly the worst main Arkham game. Still a good game.
@@Pelayum I think the worse one is Knight. This was good. To much reliance on the batmobile in Knight. Wish they could have made the batwing player controlled
@Joseph Sawyer I think Origins is the worst because of the inferior combat, graphics and open world compared to knight.
Did he seriously imply the Grundy battle is better than Deathstroke?
It's low-key my favorite of the series 🤷♂️
Jamin Contreras same here
the boss fights are amazing. the ninjas npcs are amazing the graphics are better, the game play is better.
people dont like Origins but its better than City for me
The combat system is questionable at best. I’m very skilled in this regard but many flaws still exist, such as the unreliable counter function and enemy hitboxes. The plot of the game is also incredibly broad and you lose track of the story as a whole very quickly. Origins is the worst entry in the series from my experience, but to each their own.
Yes!
1) Arkham City
2) Arkham Knight
3) Arkham Asylum
4) Arkham Origins
Origins isn’t a bad game in my eyes, but it’s still nowhere near as good as Rocksteady’s trilogy. Plus, It absolutely baffles me that so many people bitch about Arkham Knight...there’s only a couple things about it that puts it under Arkham City, like the tank battles. Other than that, it’s a fucking awesome game.
I used to overlook this game back when it came out. But right now I am obssessed with it honestly. Probably one of the best Batman/ Joker stories period.
Troy Baker is the official new Joker to me also. Hamill will always be number 1 but if he decided right now to call it quits for good and never return as the Joker. I honestly wouldn't even be that madd aslong as Troy gets to play him more frequently moving forward.
I loved all the games they each have their reason for being great which is why (my unpopular opinion) I think they are all equally awesome games ALL Arkham games including origins
despite knowing for years now how all most all the assets from Arkham City were reused, the combat not being as fast or responsive as the Rocksteady Arkham games, not having Kevin Conroy as Batman or Mark Hammil as Joker ,and having to wait a long time to get it so all the bugs were taken care of... I actually really liked Batman Arkham Origins.. its not as good as Asylum, City or Knight, but I still think it's quite good overall ( I should note that by time I got the game, my copy had no bugs or glitches in it so didn't have t o deal with those annoyances)
The first 59 seconds perfectly describes my problem with this game. It looks like a game I love, it plays like a game I love, but it’s missing the soul that made Arkham City the game I love. I like the Cold, Cold Heart DLC more than the base game! They do a better job with using revolutionary free flow combat in clever ways for boss fights vs Deathstroke and Lady Shiva, but that’s where my praise for this game ends. Other than that, they do nothing new to make it feel like a new game that has a reason to exist like every one of Rocksteady’s games
Another solid review! Can't wait for your Arkham Knight video. It's personally my favourite in the series but i know that objectively it's very problematic to say the least
Kami Huddlestone it’s really not problematic to say. Check out Micah Edmonds analysis of the series, he also thinks it’s the best.
I think the game is pretty good. I like the story and the gameplay. The side missions were also rlly fun.
I didn’t know it was a prequel when initially playing it so I found it something special.
What I like kost about Origins were the cutscenes. They were dark and creepier.
Like a batman I would watch many times
Arkham origins should have just been a DC animated film! Not a poorly copy and pasted arkham city!
This is the same guy who gives every AC installment praise but suddenly says Warner Brothers is making the Arkham games a cash cow when they released a title in between City and Knight just to keep the hype alive for another couple years... Huh? This game is NOT decent, the AC franchise, the very one you somehow always praise, as a whole is meh, while Arkham Origins, at its worst, is a good, solid entry in a phenomenal franchise, it just didn't live up to its predecessors in my opinion...
As a child, when I first dipped my toes into the franchise, I started with Origins, seeing as how it was the first game that caught my attention at the game store. Once I beat the game, I actually thought it was great because dumb child brain and the plot and combat that I really enjoyed. Then, I went to the store and bought Arkham City. Due to the plotline of Origins, at the time, I thought that was the first game, and I condemned Arkham City for having outdated visuals and recycled content. Looking back now, my outlook on Origins conpletely changed. Its crazy how much credit you'd give for innovation and originality.
Honestly I think this is the best of all the Arkham games. Origins was the only one I played all the way through, all the Rocksteady games got boring about halfway through.
can anyone tell me the name of the music that plays under the video other than the intro song?
Tybor Vasas that’s what I wanna know too, it’s so good!
I doubt whether the people(who've labelled this thing 'underrated' so many times that it is probably anything but) questioning your credibility when it comes to your completion of origins have attempted to 100% this mess themselves. 9 years later there are still bugs galore in origins; I just happened to have faced one that disrupted my progress by barring me from fully upgrading batman's abilities.
Gotham Knights' release will probably reinforce my opinion that Montreal is just capable enough to create insipid, lacklustre video games that can only appeal to those who reckon origins is a great game.
The origins fanbase make the game itself look worse
@@saltycomet Yep. Not a fan of Luke Stephens at all, but he was bang on with this.
Tbh, I enjoyed playing Origins more than City. Just my opinion tho.
I don't comment on TH-cam videos but I would like to state, this game is still broken on Xbox 360. Everytime I beat the game, the game deletes all of my save files after four days of the initial completion.
City>asylum>knight>origins imo... city was a masterpiece and asylum i played later and was also a greeeeat game... while knight for me was quite boring, and the story all over the place and i was wishing just to finish the game at the end....and knights car was a bad addition for me, fun in the beginning but it was a gimmick later on and took away from the core detective gameplay of batman
This game fucked up the franchises lore so much more than Arkham Knight like Asylum and City had tiny inconsistencies but WB Montreal have so much to learn and I hope there next Batman game is it's own thing not a Arkham game and ahh this game makes my head hurt aha
Personally, I enjoyed Arkham Origins. Troy Bakers portrayal of Joker and his origin really made the brief departure from Hamill feel almost like a quick breather and a side tasting, which is what Origins really feels like to me. It feels like the side dish of garlic bread to the grand meat feast of the Rocksteady games. And I think that’s fine. I personally believe it’s the weakest game of the series, but this IS the Arkham series we’re discussing here. These games are great regardless, so even if one isn’t keeping up with the pack, i still find it powering along as a fun, Batman adventure to coincide with the beautiful comic book opera that is the main trilogy
One of the few perks about this game that I'm surprised you didn't touch on - the soundtrack. Some of it is pretty dope.
Dude what is the background music?
I personally think origins was the best overall of the arkham games. All the others did one thing best but this game did all the aspects well and had the best boss fights by far ... also knight was trash :)
How was Knight trash?? 🤯
@@adoptic6342 awful writing, gross mis-use of characters, a plot tiwst that wasn't even a twist, boring enemy variety and level design, the PC port was a disaster, half arsed non-co op, bat tank, drone enemies, repetative boss battles, you get the point. ... good hand to hand combat and voice acting though :\
@@samcadwallader1561 the writing was on par with City, mis-used were the 8 assassins, Joker being Black Mask was even worse of a plot twist imo, there wasn't much more they could add but Origins added nothing new at all, Origins had a good setting but was the only game to have bad level design, the port has nothing to do with the game itself, and what co-op? Origins was the only one with multiplayer but it was awesome. Some bad boss battles yes, but every boss battle was boring and forgettable from Origins. Knight was a dissappointment for sure but it's far from a bad game.
@@samcadwallader1561 IMO this game has some weird gameplay. It looks off. Smthn about it. Theres also that it seems lifeless, Gotham is tiny and small and the graphics for the characters dont look realistic. I don't mean the graphics need to be better, arkham asylum had inferior graphics yet the characters moved more realistic
@@adoptic6342 I can't agree that the black mask twist was worse but I agree it wasn't handled great. And when I said half arsed coop I meant the weird dual character thing in knight that should've allowed for coop.
Nothing in Origin is really amazing, except that despite its flaws it still got hands down the best writing and story in the series.
But damn do I really hate that combat pose thing they added.
Like, why? It looks so much less cool and you can't even counter until Batman is in that combat pose.
I really enjoyed AO though I think it should have had much more in-game content as well have had a few story issues fixed. Examples:
1) Killer Croc is one of the assassins but we fight him before we find out he is one and there is a sewer level later one.
2) Deadshot and Lady Shiva are both assassins but relegated to side-missions instead of faced within the main story.
3) The pacing is very uneven. The second half of the game is so much shorter than the first half, consisting of the Bridge and Blackgate.
4) Despite having a map size twice as big as Arkham City, AO has less in-game content (less side ops, shorter story mode, & only one PC).
5) Loose plot threads. I thought Alberto Falcone would lead a gang war against Penguin with Black Mask dethrone but it never happened.
Best narrative of the series in my opinion. And definitely better than Knight.
origins also had a better variety of boss battles compared to knight which was mostly tank boss battles
By far my favorite entry in the Arkham series is Origins. For three reasons; 1. The story. 2. The boss fights (my favorite was Deathstroke). And 3. Were the bits where Batman was actually being a detective. I mean in City Ra's Al Ghul addresses him as detective, yet he only pieced together what 2 crimes in the main plot.
Sure many things about Origins were copy pasted from City, I'll admit that. But Luke surely you know that Origins isn't the first game to do such a thing.
Also Luke... word of advice, don't get Arkham Knight for pc. Trust me its a nightmare.
Not to be shameless but my LP of the game on my channel is FULL of glitches. And I played it on the PS3, so trust me it's not just a PC thing. I once fell through a moving elevator and had to reload because I couldn't continue
Would love a remastered for the PlayStation! Great game so underrated